Let's be real here. If Andy actually HAD seen this movie in 1995, there's no way he would've wanted a toy based on Buzz. He absolutely would've wanted a toy Socks, instead. Everything about Socks the cat screams "made to be sold as merchandise".
This movie is way too late 2010s/early 2020s to be something that Andy watched, unless Toy Story was set in some utopian alternate future where Covid never happened, Russia didn’t provoke WWIII, and American culture didn’t regress after 2014.
@@alexgomez6723 The film itself says at the beginning that it's the reason Andy wanted a Buzz Lightyear toy, that watching THIS film made Andy obsessed with Buzz Lightyear. I know, it's stupid, and there's no way this film would've been released when it says it was in the Toy Story universe, but that's how they're trying to link this to Toy Story and milk that franchise.
What annoys me about this movie is it's supposed to be a movie tie-in showing that this is why Andy wanted a Buzz Lightyear for his birthday. 1) he looks nothing like that Buzz Lightyear 2) Zurg looks nothing like that Zurg 3) we already had that with Buzz Lightyear: Star Command, a Saturday morning cartoon from the 90s that works perfectly as a tie-in that would make Andy say "I want that toy!"
@@krimsonklaww611 they could even put a bit more effort into what you said and say he took his kid to see a buzz lightyear movie or something and it'd be much more believable for the audience. They just didn't give a fuck when they wrote the script for the movie.
@@ohmygawd601 goddamn, I think movies being written by AI is a real thing these days. That would explain why these movies make no sense to most people.
To somewhat quote another YT user, this doesn’t feel like a Buzz Lightyear film kid Andy would have watched, this feels like the soulless postmodern reboot a 30 something Andy who got Twitter famous from drawing the feet of female characters in Star Command would watch.
@@alexgomez6723 So Andy after going through college and coming out the other end a woke hipster doing video essays on pop-culture, like QuintonReviews or Super Eyepatch Wolf
The irony is Buzz Lightyear of Star Command had the same theme of Buzz needing to learn to have friends and work with people, but it was handled much more logically. Buzz Lightyear had a partner he was close to, his friend was seemingly killed, and due to the grief of losing his close friend, he becomes sullen and wanting to work alone. And the rest of the supporting characters are there to help him learn how to work with a partner again. And that was just a quick, direct to DVD kids show that Pixar themselves didn't even care for, yet they did a worse job of the same basic concept. It's sad.
@@thatguy3421 buzz lightyear of Star command is it really good show. And honestly it makes more sense for buzz be based off that show than this new movie.
Then you had my idea on Buzz character motive, of what Lightyear could of been. I generally quite enjoyed the animated show when it was on, far cry more creative too.
Plus had better versions of characters like this. Booster was a better example of a slightly inept newcomer than Izzi, and XR was a better example of a robotic sidekick than Socks. Though Zurg in that didn’t have much of a good motive besides “I’m evil and I wanna turn other people evil too” unlike here where we actually see his motive and it’s more understandable. But the rest of the movie, not so.
What's even more hilarious is their pitiful attempts to fit this movie into the Toy Story lore. Basically, they say that this movie came out in 1985, flopped, got sold and remade into Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, and Andy found the original movie on a VHS tape. So basically, there's no reason for this movie to exist, both in cannon and irl.
id think Andy would of watched the cartoon instead, this movie is awful and boring there's no way in hell he would of liked it, if its true that he dug up 1985 movie, again Disney in their stupidity forget that Toy story came out IN 1995! GGEEZ
And from what we've seen from toy story 2 with the buzz lightyear video game that Rex is playing and what we see of Zurg it would make more sense for buzz himself to be based off of the cartoon show buzz lightyear of Star command.
Movies that have a message about trust and friendship would be more impactful if they didn't also portray the MC's companions as incompetent liabilities.
@@Sinner987 Straight truth, a more coherent message of a character realizing his mistakes and changing. And if it was written by the people who wrote Lightyear it'd look more like Birth of A Nation.
Pretty sure Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was already declared the canon upon which Andy's toy was based Well, it wouldn't be the first time Disney decanonized a beloved expanded universe to create something inferior
There were movies in the 90s with gay kisses in it but to my knowledge none of them were cartoons the closest I can think of is certain cartoons like Hey Arnold! secretly having a gay character in it. But anyway it's a weird nitpick in my opinion to criticize this movie that isn't trying to be realistic for having a gay kiss in it because this movie that exists in another movie takes place in the 90s.
@@tultsi93 Trout Mask Replica and The Residents came out nearly two decades prior, and they were both infinitely edgier than those two. Same with Pink Floyd
I married the love of my life in 2002. Between 2004 and 2006 we had 3 miscarriages. Watching the movie "Up" with my wife in 2009 was quite emotional. In 2016 my wife died from breast cancer. The first 10 minutes of "Up" is the most relatable material that has ever come out of Hollywood.
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme the Incredibles is one of my all time favourite movies. As soon as I heard that director Brad Bird wasn’t going to stick to the original plan of setting the sequel when Jak Jak was a teenager and his siblings were grown up (effectively ageing the family in real time), I knew he was playing the safe move, and the movie could be comfortably ignored.
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme they went from the original being one of the greatest animated films of all time to the sequel being one of the most forgettable of all time
I don't know which is more unbelievable: that they supposedly made a live-action scifi special effects powerhouse _in 1995_ that would have made ILM puke in trepidation, if it was technically possible to film at all, or that they made such a film, and did a big marketing/merchandising push to kids...with an interracial, married lesbian couple and their child as main characters, fleeting and low-key as they were, in 1995. I mean, remember when Ellen came out on her show? I do. That was in 1997. That was tame as tapioca, and they STILL had to negotiate with the network to do it AND put a disclaimer in front of the episodes from then on! Hell, you know what would have been a better framing device? It starts with grown-up Andy going to the movies, possibly with a kid of his own, to see the fancy new reboot of the cartoon/movie he loved as a boy. Boom, done. It's barely even a framing device, it's basically _actually what happened in real life._
Not just that. In 1992, there was a huge dust-up over Murphy Brown becoming pregnant out of wedlock, and that was an adult-targeted show. Pixar would have us believe that not three years after that, a feature film aimed at children would go farther than is frequently tolerated NOW.
@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse Modern Disney cares nothing about accurately portraying the past. They are pushing an agenda, not trying to make good movies anymore. I saw Lightyear when it came out, it was boring. Seriously, NO KID would have liked this movie back in '95.
The show does not have any of the 90's or even 80's campiness that movies in this genre had back then. I was really hoping they would go that direction. Even if they kept the gay scenes in, they would have been better off going the "galaxy quest" route. *when I say galaxy quest I mean the show within the movie*
@@Graycata that's an awesome suggestion. The 90s definitely had its style. You only need to look at all the summer blockbusters back then to get a feel for it.
Having Zurg turn out to be a different timeline Buzz is a plot hole as it was explained in Toy Story 2 that Zurg is Buzz's father. How did they screw that up?
@@osets2117 it's odd because they got the crystal engine part right as it was explained in Toy Story 1, but didn't get the "No Buzz, I am your father" right?
If you told me to come up with a Buzz Lightyear movie about the real Buzz Lightyear, I wouldn't even begin to imagine this movie. He's descriped as "The world's greatest super hero is now the world greatest toy!" and in his game in the 2nd movie he's by him self breaking into Zurg's secret base. From this, I'd assume he's more like Samus, doing missions by him self in super dangerous places. I don't imagine psudo time skipping and the dread of realizing the month you felt has really been 40 years and now your wife is dead, your kids are adults, and they're the same age as you now, or something of a like kind. I call bull, Andy wouldn't have liked this movie.
I can't imagine Andy watching this movie and think Buzz is so cool to want a toy of him. AND considering the implied live-action effects and the gay kiss, I can't imagine this being made in 1995. It's almost like this movie was made to standalone with no connection to the Toy Story universe, but Disney can't help themselves. They have this "memberberry" tick that they just can't ignore and have to go 'MEMBER TOY STORY?!!! 'MEMBER ANDY?!!!
No, I can't imagine that *this* was the origin of Buzz Lightyear. This Buzz just seems too horribly bland - but Star Command's? With the wings? Totally.
If Andy was a kid and saw this, Toy Story would be about Woody and Star Lord. No kid watched this and said, i want a toy from this abomination. Same with Turning Red which sold zero toys.
I saw an article about how this movie was getting review bombed because of the "same sex" scene, but before that I had watched two reviews that outlined how mediocre this movie was and neither of them even mentioned that scene.
Disney and Pixar can crap out mediocre or even bad movies, and put a gay character in it, then when people review it honestly, Disney/Pixar simply says it's "trolls" and "bigots" who are downvoting because of a gay character being in the movie. No Disney, it's because it's a bad movie. idgaf about some LGBTQIA+ whatever character, especially if it's just a tossable side-thing.
@@josjos-x5s Articles like that always obfuscate what’s really going on, something like that may have happened but they’ll act like that’s the only reason why it gets bad reviews is because of those people.
Even if it was a Star Wars joke Buzz was more inspired by Star Trek or Green Lanterns in terms of job. And having the family drama of Star Wars with a backdrop of sci-fi Space police. sounds way more interesting than what we got
This movie is less like the one Andy saw as a kid that got him to buy the toys and more like the bad reboot that Andy gets called "ist" and "phobe" for not liking.
The solution is to retcon Andy as the child of gender studies professors who were offended that he liked cowboys and forced him to watch progressive films like Lightyear. Eventually, Andy becomes Mandy.
What I find hard to believe is that this is supposed to be a movie made in the mid 90s even though it’s made with current ideals and standards, I just guess the movie was very progressive for its time
Maybe in the Pixar universe society is just more progressive than in our world. If superheroes existed in the 60s (granted THEY were outlawed for a while) and a canadian teen turns into a red panda in the early 2000s with the strongest public reaction being "Wow that's freaky...well anyways-" maybe the idea of homophobia just straight up doesn't exist. Though that doesn't stop this movie from being kinda...eh well completely unnecessary.
Can someone explain to me how did Buzz Lesbian friend got pregnant? Did she have sex with a guy while in a relationship with another woman? Or are they implying a future tech thing where women can impregnate each other?
@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse Banking on one person vs you spending the same amount, that millions of people could've spent on, to make this movie, is not banking.
@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse I have a fealling that most modern disney films are made by filmmakers who just want to troll pepole and crush the franchise. And who can blame them? If I was offered millions of dollars just to direct/make a movie by disney I would make a movie like a troll
They should have leaned into the 90’s angle and made it a schlocky action movie with heart. That would have been such a fun movie. I would have made it trying to capture the vibe of movies like Batman Forever and Timecop, complete with overacting and fun, colorful action scenes.
Try to imagine Chris Evans in a fun, schlocky comedy romp aimed at kids but fun for all ages. Just try. They clearly wanted a movie that had more in common with Interstellar than Kung Fu Panda--without understanding either--so they hired a lead actor whose preferred genre lies at the intersection of incomprehensible and condescending.
It would take some actual creative skill to pull that off. It's much easier to come up with a regurgitated Star Trek:TNG script, throw a cute animal in and call it a day.
I feel like the theme could have been reinforced more if we were actually shown moments where Buzz’s refusal to let others help caused problems. Every time something bad happens, it’s because someone else screws up; it’s no wonder he wants to handle it alone! Why don’t they show us that he needs help, rather than just telling us? Why does Mo have to be the one to constantly interrupt the plot by being inept? Why did the goblin turn on the stove?
Here's what I find interesting: This sci-fi movie supposedly made in the 90's has no real aliens in it. The only sentient beings are the humans. The marketing for this movie was Buzz Lightyear (for nostalgia bait) and a gay kiss. I get the impression that Disney thinks the only "alien" thing they think their audience can handle is homosexual relationships. Not a good look, Disney.
1. This is definitely not the movie Andy saw, and not only for there being lesbians in a 90's kid movie. This story makes Buzz much less heroic, it's a story of introspection and guilt, stuff I like on it's own, but it wouldn't have inspired the same cheering of "Take that Zurg!" when he played with the toy in his birthday party. If he managed to understand everything at his age, that the hero and the villain were the same person, he would have realized that there was nothing to cheer for in this tragedy. The only reason they added that disclaimer was to retroactively say Andy was a good kid for liking a movie with LBGT content in it, which leads me to: 2. The lesbians were the main focus, even if it was only 2 seconds of visual confirmation. Be it that they decided from the beginning to leave it there or that it was a PR reaction to their support of "Don't say gay" bill, they were so obsessed with making the movie adult in the hopes that the "pixar heartwrench" would validate the lesbians. That lead to it's identity crisis, not even The Phantom Menace struggled that hard between balancing stuff for kids and veteran fans.
while winking that the father's figure is obsolete, we have got a perfectly happy lesbian family now, and somehow finding it appropriate to release it for father's day
I read the plotline on Wikipedia and figure that only two things really killed this movie. Immediately playing victim, but most of all; having a boring plot and a really stupid twist for the villain. the cartoon had a far more fleshed out Buzz who at first didn't want partners and had an actual reason behind that.
The movie honestly feels like they wanted to have an excuse to have Chris Evans fight himself again but the writers couldn't come up with anything intelligible to make it happen Hence the ham fisted time jumping plot line that makes literally no sense
@Amiibo Jeremiah But would kids really like this though? With all its drab colors and quasi-mature themes, this felt like an attempt to appeal to older audiences, not very well might I add.
It's like going to a rich friend's house for Thanksgiving, to discover they're serving bologna sandwiches on Wonderbread. With mayo. Yes, it's food (technically), but not really what you'd serve up on a special occasion.
2:00 the fact that this movie was made in 1995 makes that gay kiss scene even more out of place. No kids movie from the 90s would have an openly gay character in it and if it did Andy would probably get made fun of for liking it. Im not saying its right im saying thats how it would have been back then.
ikr? I'm a '90s kid, and believe me, that movie wouldn't made into a box office. I would haven't even understood that, because I didn't know what lesbian is. I didn't even know what straight is. And my mom was very homophobic person back then so she wouldn't allowed me to watch that movie, anyway.
Considering Pixar has admitted the kiss was shoehorned into the movie exclusively to check their social justice box, it's no wonder the rest of the movie suffered because that's all these types care about now.
@@nightmarefanatic1819 Apparently, the narcissistic meltdown is accelerating. Whereas before, they were at least trying to be subtle, now it's basically just giving themselves an opportunity to insult and berate anyone who isn't impressed.
I think this movie tried to be Buzz Lightyear os Star Comand but failed miserably in the series you have a Buzz that had a partner and died, he got stuck with rookies and got mad at them for being unprofessional, it was great character conflict in the movie is... I don't want a partner but thanks though :D very polite, no conflict, what's the point?
This feels more like discount watered down Halo or Mass Effect than Buzz Lightyear. On some level, I can appreciate a darker animated sci-if film as such a thing is seldom explored in Hollywood, but the choice of IP and the execution of it all was extremely questionable. Buzz Lightyear is supposed to be goofy, over the top, lighthearted, and old fashioned in some respects, as the character was inspired by old sci-fi serials like Buck Rodgers and Flash Gordon, instead, they made it this drab Xbox cutscene that only resembled its inspiration in name.
I think some clarification is needed. After Warp “died”, Buzz was in that emotional shut off period where he didn’t want anyone else because the risk of reoccurrence with losing someone close to him might happen again. He only rejected Mira because they tried to shove her with him and he was doing the lone wolf bit as stated above. He even watched her training and was openly impressed by her. XR he was more confused about but tried once the LGM’s proved he was immune to long term damage. It was only after he was worked on by the disjointed LGM’s getting the Johnny 5 treatment that Buzz slid back into rejecting partners. Booster just kinda got swept up due to the plot and Buzz ultimately learned that a partner(s) is/were still a precious asset that he just forgot to consider due to grief. Movie Buzz was actually kinda an arrogant jerk and dismissive without any insight and argued up until Sir Notinthismoviemuchlonger stopped being a plot point and the whole space flight story began. But it’s still a major compare and contrast that 22 years ago, Buzz Lightyear could be written as someone who had teamwork issues and went through loss far more eloquently on TV than with 100’s of millions on the big screen from the original company. And was actually fun.
"And then Zurg's chest opens up, revealing that he's actually a robotic suit piloted by Buzz himself, only it's an alternate timeline Buzz who's fifty or sixty years old." Did they hire someone off of fucking WattPad to write this?
My Thoughts exactly. Especially because this reminded me to a lot of reader inserts that over complicate the stories, shoehorn ridiculously stupid twists and can't decide what audience it tries to appeal to (Fangirls, Mystery fans, etc)
What's funny is that the animated film Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is actually more diverse than Lightyear. Rather than a boring cast consisting of humans who are 90% people of color, there's a whole plethora of alien species who come in all sorts of colors, shapes, and sizes. A ghost princess, a robot, and a big red dinosaur are far more fitting as Buzz's allies.
This comment makes absolutely no sense. You’re saying? That fake alien raves is more diverse than actual human races? Make it make sense. You can say it was more creative, but diverse is not the right word
@@BabyGirlTiny Do you even know what the word means? It doesn't matter if they're people or aliens. The animated film's humanoid character pool has more races than Lightyear, therefore it's more diverse.
Dude I love how blunt and straightforward you are. Mad respect, this channel rules . We need more like this in this era of fake outrage and sensitivity
Hawthorn should have been Buzzes' wife. They could have wanted to start a family together but because Buzz is so dedicated to getting home with time jumps, he eventually has to face her being gone. Now this wouldn't work coming back to planet multiple times, but if he had done a test that was much longer than he initially did, he would face a lot more impact. I think an actual screenwriter would do this better, but that's my pitch
Or maybe Buzz and his wife's kids are back on Earth, so he has a rational reason to get home. He has to choose between his kids and his wife back on the planet they're stranded on
@@palladiamorsdeus Lesbians can get pregnant you know? They just need a doner. I think her being Buzz's wife would have worked better though, they could have had some other character be a lesbian.
@@mattwolf7698 Or maybe just eschew the whole pairing business entirely and focus on the explosions and spaceships and high adventure, because this is supposed to be a kids' movie by its own description.
as a kid that grew up whit insane anxiety i will say that this movie touches on some weird points for a kids show, the whole time skipping and friends dying thing is insane to just drop unsupervised on a kids movie.
@@wolfetteplays8894 I agree, but it needs to be done well. This movie is tonally dissonant and doesn't know when and where dark themes are appropriate with the proper nuance.
Yeah, and they'll happily remove footage of black and Vietnamese characters for Chinese audiences. All for the sake of chasing after that almighty wallet. Disney answers only to money. They're shamelessly corporate to the bone. Anybody that says otherwise is a fool.
Sounds like plenty of things happen and places to go, because story needs them to happen. Also, Moe's arc seems suspiciously close the inanimate carbon rod from The Simpsons' "Homer Goes To Space" episode.
no surprise. Disney also owns the Simpsons so they can recycle any plot they want from there. it's basically a treasure trove of ideas they could never come up with.
I'm pretty sure the "backlash" about that lesbian kiss was mostly "journalists" framing it as the main reason the movie isn't doing well, because it's free outrage to generate clicks. Then a few dumbasses from both ends of the spectrum leaned in on it, and it blew up more than it was actually relevant to anyone. It's a strawman to deflect actual criticism and then play the "bigot" card to get a few braindeads on your side for the screeching choir. It's almost theatrical how manufactured, yet superficial these elements tend to be, and how it's always shitty opinion posters claiming to be journalists who then make molehills into mountains.
There were people who didn't like it for that reason. But it was a loud minority. I think the creators are trying to do the same thing the creators of the women's Ghostbusters did. Call everyone who doesn't like your thing a -phobe or -ist so those people look bad and loose credibility
If I'm being honest Pixar really hasn't had a compelling movie in a LONG time. At this point I think the only reason they are still relevant is because they are one of the few animated film studios still running so they don't need to set a high bar
Turning red was a really good movie, that should have been in theaters buuut nooo nostalgia and brand recognition comes first and they shot themselves in the foot when it floops haha
ok... let me get this straight, so following thier logic of timetravel, theres a 70 year old buzz that wanted to undo everything, but theres a past self trying to stop that from happening to prevent the current timeline, because if it was undone this timeline wouldnt exsist, which mean there can only be one timeline, which means the only explanation for future buzz is that he will eventually become the villain. but that cant be true because buzz would know nearly everything that wouldve happened, so that must mean hes from an alternate reality and alternate realities are possible and the movie made a bullcrap excuse for conflict... good fricken job i guess... you really shouldve kept the idea of toy story 2 and made zorg his father... there wouldve been a lot of ways to make it a twist even with the audience who watched toy story 2
Not only that, Buzz has the chance to make everything right again...but doesn't, because "These people wouldn't exist!' Its just...dumb. This whole movie is dumb.
This should've been some kind of nostalgia trip made to look like an actual kids movie from the 90s. There's so much that could've been done creatively I think.
Why are companies like Disney entrusted with making our entertainment when they have proven over and over again that they have no idea what they’re doing?
It's less of incompetence and more of arrogance. They think you're stupid. That you'll just aimlessly consume product, regardless of quality. Especially if they think it's the right mixture of social-political virtue signaling to reflect whatever political goings-on are at the time. AKA corporate pandering. Frankly, I hope Disney keeps losing money. It's time companies like it learn some humility.
Honestly the Zurg villan twist was the thing that really brought it down for me....If he was literally any other character like Buzz's farther or the Rookie from the beginning it would have been find and made sence if done right
Wait, was this movie supposes to be a 1995 kids movie!? This movie stink post 2020 Hollywood. Seriously, Zurg is meant to be a spoofy of Darth Vader AKA space overlord that, plot twist, is the protagonist father. All Pixar had to do was a simple story of Buzz stopping Zurg from doing overlord villain stuff like exploding a planet or enslaving an alien race.
Lightyear should have been inspired by old 50s pulps, like Dan Dare, Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers. Instead of that, they tried to ape Interstellar and failed miserably. The old "Star Command" cartoon wasn't perfect but it handled the concept WAY better than this thing. Also, SPOILER making Zurg and Buzz the same person because of time travel shenanigans is the WORST IDEA EVER. Zurg is supposed to be an alien evil emperor. In this movie he's not alien, he's not evil and he's not an emperor. He's not even a character, but an empty suit. So, in short: I'm heartbroken with how the movie turned out.
The way you said Buzz keeps hopping into the future and sees everyone grow old and die reminded me of Adam Sandler's Click. It's funny to imagine people at Pixar watching that and being like "yeah, this will be Buzz's backstory"
I sort of knew this was going to be bad, no matter how badly I wanted it to be good. The Toy Story series, (it stopped at 3. There is no Toy Story 4. At least not in my heart.) Is by far my favorite franchise. In the pioneer days of CGI, Pixar was by far the GOAT, and had amazing storytelling abilities, and great VAs to boot. Once Disney bought them, (because they were bleeding money, and unable to compete with the masters of 3D themselves), their content dropped a bit, but not noticeably so. That is until the dark age of animation known as “The Woke Era”. It can also be called the cash grab era, because alongside pushing an agenda, they were also mostly soulless. I knew Lightyear would be no different, and it breaks me to see my childhood reworked, revamped, and rehashed to hell and back.
Another person who hates toy story 4, I still think toy story 2 is the best in the franchise but 3 was still a perfect ending, they didn't need to throw everything from toy story 3 out the window just so they can make extra money, especially if there are planning to make this in the first place!
11:51 - The jetpack was obviously part of the ejector system. Imagine you ejected out into space to avoid a crash. You'd just be drifting off in the direction you ejected in, that's no help at all. The jetpack is obviously there to help you fly to safety, and the wings are for when you're ejecting in an atmosphere.
Imma just defend Jar Jar, yes he's annoying and gets way too much attention from the first film but he is absolutely necessary He's the reason amidala figures to find the gungans for help and he knows where they bugger off to safety from the federation
If i had a nickle for every disney movie that had the supporting cast who were all incompetant idiots that ruin everything and then the plot says the main character is wrong for not wanting their help because of the value of friendship, I'd have 2 nickles, which isnt alot butnit's wierd that it happened twice. (the other movie with this plot is Tinkerbell: The Lost Treasure)
You know what would've worked better? The original Buzz Lightyear movie. Outside of that, why not make Buzz an orphan and have Star Command be an intergalactic police force with humans being a recent addition to the Galactic Alliance, and Buzz being a young recruit. He's shown to have top marks but has issues with teamwork and facilitating hard decisions, showcased when he hesitated shooting a practice drone holding a fake child hostage or attempting to negotiate with it. Even have his lone-fighter mindset reinforced not only by having him pursue a criminal (revealed to be an informant of Zurg) alone, abandoning his teammates prior, but have him physically retaliate against a snide comment by an alien partner directed at Buzz because he's human. Yes, I'm taking a lot from Mass Effect, but bear with me. After capturing the criminal, Buzz interrogates him.and we see a bolt on his hand with Zurg's Emblem on the head. After stating "Zurg is coming" he slams the bolt on the back of his hand hard into the chair, causing him to atomize in a bright explosion. All the while, a broadcast on TV shows an alien planet explode at the exact same time, and Buzz catches sight of it when it shifts to Zurg in a dark silhouette, announcing that he will "destroy those who have ripped scars across the stars; who stain the black void red. Know that I am Emperor Zurg, and I will reep this galaxy." Have Buzz and his team (maybe including Warp Darkmatter from the first movie, and have him act all buddy-buddy with Buzz up until the second-to-last segment of the second act and revealed to be Zurg's right hand man) lay siege to a stronghold with Zurg in it, and have Zurg take out Buzz's team quickly, but noticeably ignore Buzz. Then Buzz attacks him head-on, and Zurg grabs his helmet, lifting him up. Zurg would say "So this is the great Buzz Lightyear, Star Command's star recruit. It truly has been too long since we've last met." And then throw him back into a room far away from the door they were both at. After the second act, not only reveal that Warp is a double agent, but have Warp say "After what the Axiom Collective have done, I thought you'd be on his side." Buzz says "What about the Axiom? How does that affect me?" Then have Zurg walk in, saying "Everything." He then goes on a long speech Talking about how the races in the Axiom Collective have wrought Hell on the races in the new and fairly strong Zurg Empire, citing that the affected planets have banded together in a new Empire under a ruler that already took out 5 stronghold worlds alone. It's then revealed that Zurg was affected when he says "Even my world of Morph in Quadrant 9 was not safe." It's then that Buzz says "Morph? What do you know about Morph? It was destroyed by an ancient war machine malfunctioning. I would know; they found me in the rubble." Zurg removes his helmet saying "I know, I hid you there," revealing himself to be (DUN DUN DUNN) Buzz Lightyear's father. It turns out Zurg was taken as a slave by the Axiom Collective and put Buzz in a hypersleep capsule in a blastproof vault, but was taken before he could activate the Star Command marker so they could find him. Even showing that most of his body is mechanical, a result of him replacing his broken body with a modified battle suit meant for Axiom soldiers and advanced prosthetic limbs. Buzz at some point breaks out and swears to stop him. Zurg, outraged and confused as to how his own son could turn against him, attempts to stop him from destroying the ship core of the Entropitus, Zurg's flagship and lead battleship. The ending would be fairly rote material: Buzz stops Zurg, Buzz's team saves him, big ship go boom, and have a big celebration where Buzz celebrates what momentary peace he has. Then an after-credits showing Other Zurg races retrieving Warp and Zurg from sealed escape pods.
@Vixen Lunastra Yeah, I wrote this up pretty quickly and I REALLY wanted to keep that joke twist from Toy Story 2. I already kept in Buzz's actual homeworld, Warp Darkmatter, and the Galactic Alliance, so I thought why not keep the Star Wars parody twist from the second film's elevator scene.
If this movie is a movie in the ToyStory universe, this mean that (if we assume that ToyStory happens in 1990-200x) this movie is supposed to be created around 2000. I'm not homophobic but i'm pretty sure we weren't too happy about showing LGBT stuff in kids movies in 2000 (especially if we are talking about Disney) so it makes it kinda unrealistic in a way. Then again we could imagine that the ToyStory universe is devoid of discrimination.
Given everything I’ve heard about this movie, I’d be happy sticking with Buzz Lightyear of Star Command! At least that had the flame thrower! “OOOH THE FLAME THROWER!!” Zerg - hilarious line!
@@creativename1072 Okay then. What about Charles Muntz from Up? Skinner from Ratatouille? Syndrome and Screenslaver from the Incredibles movies? Ernesto from Coco? Ercole from Luca?
13:17 this is another example as to why the Star Command cartoon was better. He had trust issues in the cartoon too but we were given at the beginning why that was.
Oof. All in all, it seems like Zerg was the real hero - he was still trying to get far enough back in time to save the original crew. Of which, there were a lot more than the few in the new timeline, and who all died of old age waiting for Buzz to fix the problem he caused to begin with. Zerg-Buzz hasn't failed or abandoned them - but this other Buzz is stopping him from saving the MANY in favor of the FEW who he JUST MET. People who won't actually even die - they will just never have been to begin with, as they shouldn't have EXCEPT for Buzz's constant foul-ups. I'm glad I gave this flick a pass.
Wait, she's a lesbian and married another woman, then he comes back and she's pregnant? How they explaining that one? Some kind of future genetic synthesis where they can bioengineer sperm cells from female genes or something? I haven't watched it, legitimate question.
"this will wipe the other from existence "face palm , you would have never met them either way in doing so saved millions of lives and stopping zerg from ever happening its 2 generations of 3 people at the cost of a whole colony
I have a question that nobody else has asked before, in toy story 2 it's revealed that Woody was the main character of a 1950s puppet show called "Woody's Roundup", Woody is simply a piece of merchandise from that show but the puppets they used in the show would be the original Woody's Roundup characters, so whatever happened to them? Did they get sent to a museum like Woody was going to be? Or did they simply deteriorate due to time and were eventually discarded? If that's the case then did they escape and are now out in the world? Did they just accept their fate and decide to be put in the museum like toy Jessie and Stinky Pete? And if Woody was such a huge character back then that means that there would have to be other Woody dolls like him but we never see any of them, I think it's implied that he's a rare piece of merchandise which is why the chicken guy took him in the first place, but if he was such a phenomenon then Woody dolls should have been mass produced left and right!
@@tomkerruish2982 that makes a lot of sense, but it's very unlikely that there's only ONE more Woody doll in existence that's still intact, I know that they're really old because the show came from the 50s but even in a movie where toys come alive I think that there would be more than one woody still in decent condition. But hey, what do I know? I ain't one of the directors of the movie I just watch it!
@@Tree_e888 I think there probably are but it’s rare enough that you don’t find em often so if you can find one in a yard sale to complete your collection you’re gonna jump on that opportunity
Here's a better question; how are the Toys alive in the first place? Do the children impart a bit of their consciousness in them, and then they come to life? How are many of them able to move their limbs when some don't have joints? Also, all the toys don't have vocal cords, how are they talking? And how are they able to see and hear? You need both ears and eyes and a working brain to translate the visual and audio stimuli.
I heard somewhere that the lesbian kiss scene actually was edited from the film, but Disney decided to put it back in, in order to thumb their nose at Ron Desantis.
Close. After the parental rights bill some 200 of the millions of employees at Disney striked like assholes and sent a letter to the head board about supporting lgb that led to them hyper pandering to lgb and putting the kiss back in which was originally cut for time because it was meaningless and added nothing
Why would Buzz think resetting the timeline would erase the others, when it's already clear that TIMELINES SPLINTER OFF, since an alt-universe Buzz from a different timeline is already right friggin' in front of him, meaning those timelines endure despite changes in causality? And why would Future Buzz, also knowing that alternate timelines exist, not consider that there is ALREADY a timeline where they didn't crash the ship, and that his changing the past will merely create another alternate timeline? Oh, yeah... the writers are too stupid to understand the concepts they're playing with.
Just once, I would like the Rat to commit to its empty corporate preaching. Make the next Disney character an openly gay Prince and structured just like any of their princess stories. Nothing gratuitous or weird, just a typical fairy tale story with a gay Central character. That way, they couldn't erase it for foreign markets even if they wanted to. Come on, Rat. Let's see if you actually have a pair.
That would be a great way to lose a) the foreign markets they obsess over and b) solid chunks of the domestic market. This movie is already underperforming, if they went with that you'd have a Mars Needs Moms-level flop on your hands.
@@josjos-x5s it goes along the idea of "I don't care if you don't like it, it stays the way it is". If they actually believed if the ideals they say forth they wouldn't change it no matter what someone says
How Pixar managed to make a movie about something as cool as futuristic space soldiers and interstellar travel this boring and forgettable is beyond me. Don’t watch this movie, unless you enjoy virtue signaling and the cast acting like children who have never been told, “No,” after receiving the slightest bit of criticism. Just turn on Starship Troopers or Alien, and you’ll have just as good of a time (an even better one if you’ve never seen either or just like good sci-fi movies in general).
@@mainstreetsaint36 to be fair there's Star wars which is also a good pick if we're going with classics. Oh and The last Starfighter as well. And if you're into TV shows well there's Battlestar Galactica. in essence you could go through a dozen different good properties before bothering with this movie. That's not even counting the buzz lightyear cartoon from back when I was a kid. Now that was good and was well done and I think still holds up compared to this dreck of a movie. I like how possum even used a few scenes in this review.
@@mainstreetsaint36 But Wrath of Khan was much better, you have to admit. The Motion Picture was just trying to emulate 2001, but Wrath of Khan had an actual story to tell.
Okay first: Yours is the first review that actually talked about the story. That I've listened to anyway. Second, I'm glad this has Nothing to do with the cartoon.
If there's what I suggest if the film writers wanted a power of friendship trope, despite how tiresome and typical post-Disney is pushing for. For a value of friendship, for Buzz not letting others help him, make buzz a sole survivor of a space mission, since he lost his team of his command of a bad mission, it would make sence why Buzz Lightyear would have trouble allowing people help him. Inspiration for me would be from Flash Gordon and Mass Effect, if I was given the story idea. For my perspective on this Lightyear film, I do not see much that I would be interested to see, as it looks typically pc and cheap storytelling that even a child would seek elsewhere for entertainment.
The current toys I’ve seen imply the Zurg Robots are called “Zyclops,” but this movie just calls them “Zurg Robots”? Huh. Also this whole “Zurg is Future Buzz” plot twist brings up plot holes if it really is being portrayed as what Andy originally saw.
Sox carried the whole movie, even though he was only made to sell toys, which I know because I saw a whole bunch of them at Walmart (and I MIGHT have bought one because he's the best character in the movie, I MIGHT have....)
6:32 - That was explained though. Old Buzz said the vocal processing bullshit was damaged by the timey wimey bullshit, they were trying to say "Buzz" but they said "Bahzurg" instead. I get that it's not exactly airtight, but it's something.
Let's be real here. If Andy actually HAD seen this movie in 1995, there's no way he would've wanted a toy based on Buzz. He absolutely would've wanted a toy Socks, instead. Everything about Socks the cat screams "made to be sold as merchandise".
This movie is way too late 2010s/early 2020s to be something that Andy watched, unless Toy Story was set in some utopian alternate future where Covid never happened, Russia didn’t provoke WWIII, and American culture didn’t regress after 2014.
@@alexgomez6723 The film itself says at the beginning that it's the reason Andy wanted a Buzz Lightyear toy, that watching THIS film made Andy obsessed with Buzz Lightyear. I know, it's stupid, and there's no way this film would've been released when it says it was in the Toy Story universe, but that's how they're trying to link this to Toy Story and milk that franchise.
@@jmbrignon2712 Star Command is so far superior to this it's pitiful.
Yeah, I'm older than Andy was at that time and I still think Sox is the best character in the movie (and yes, I bought one myself)!
@@Thor-Orion amen to that
What annoys me about this movie is it's supposed to be a movie tie-in showing that this is why Andy wanted a Buzz Lightyear for his birthday.
1) he looks nothing like that Buzz Lightyear
2) Zurg looks nothing like that Zurg
3) we already had that with Buzz Lightyear: Star Command, a Saturday morning cartoon from the 90s that works perfectly as a tie-in that would make Andy say "I want that toy!"
Why not write that it's a reboot that grown up Andy went to see because nostalgia. There. Problem fixed.
@@krimsonklaww611 they could even put a bit more effort into what you said and say he took his kid to see a buzz lightyear movie or something and it'd be much more believable for the audience.
They just didn't give a fuck when they wrote the script for the movie.
@@ohmygawd601 goddamn, I think movies being written by AI is a real thing these days. That would explain why these movies make no sense to most people.
@@krimsonklaww611 i thought the same thing.
What about the fact that in Toy Story 2, Zerg clearly states he is Buzz's father?
Just confirming the fact that the movie studios would rather leech off nostalgia instead of concentrating on a actual good and cohesive story.
To somewhat quote another YT user, this doesn’t feel like a Buzz Lightyear film kid Andy would have watched, this feels like the soulless postmodern reboot a 30 something Andy who got Twitter famous from drawing the feet of female characters in Star Command would watch.
@@alexgomez6723 So Andy after going through college and coming out the other end a woke hipster doing video essays on pop-culture, like QuintonReviews or Super Eyepatch Wolf
@@alexgomez6723 Which youtuber exactly??
That’s all that is released these days, cash grabs exploiting your nostalgia
I'm starting to suspect that Disney in particular, and Hollywood in general, no longer has any writers capable of telling a good and cohesive story.
The irony is Buzz Lightyear of Star Command had the same theme of Buzz needing to learn to have friends and work with people, but it was handled much more logically. Buzz Lightyear had a partner he was close to, his friend was seemingly killed, and due to the grief of losing his close friend, he becomes sullen and wanting to work alone. And the rest of the supporting characters are there to help him learn how to work with a partner again.
And that was just a quick, direct to DVD kids show that Pixar themselves didn't even care for, yet they did a worse job of the same basic concept. It's sad.
That film was so good that they created a spin-off tv show too
@@thatguy3421 buzz lightyear of Star command is it really good show. And honestly it makes more sense for buzz be based off that show than this new movie.
Then you had my idea on Buzz character motive, of what Lightyear could of been. I generally quite enjoyed the animated show when it was on, far cry more creative too.
That was a great show. Some of the storylines were really compelling sci-fi. I really liked the redhead trooper with the southern drawl
Plus had better versions of characters like this. Booster was a better example of a slightly inept newcomer than Izzi, and XR was a better example of a robotic sidekick than Socks.
Though Zurg in that didn’t have much of a good motive besides “I’m evil and I wanna turn other people evil too” unlike here where we actually see his motive and it’s more understandable. But the rest of the movie, not so.
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command will forever be the true Buzz Lightyear canon.
yes yes yes and just for clarity YES !
Amen to that!
Correct!
Indeed
they should do a better version of the show as a movie, like the episodes that follows the same narrative, just with better animation and escenes
"Not terrible, but also not memorable" is how most of Disney's work can be described these days.
"Mid" for short
well except for Encanto
What were we talking about?
And WWE
Honestly I'm not excited to see any new movie from any studio nowadays
What's even more hilarious is their pitiful attempts to fit this movie into the Toy Story lore. Basically, they say that this movie came out in 1985, flopped, got sold and remade into Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, and Andy found the original movie on a VHS tape. So basically, there's no reason for this movie to exist, both in cannon and irl.
id think Andy would of watched the cartoon instead, this movie is awful and boring there's no way in hell he would of liked it, if its true that he dug up 1985 movie, again Disney in their stupidity forget that Toy story came out IN 1995! GGEEZ
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is superior to this in every possible way.
That is some next level meta stuff
And from what we've seen from toy story 2 with the buzz lightyear video game that Rex is playing and what we see of Zurg it would make more sense for buzz himself to be based off of the cartoon show buzz lightyear of Star command.
No, the film's meta narrative was it came out in 95, not 85.
Movies that have a message about trust and friendship would be more impactful if they didn't also portray the MC's companions as incompetent liabilities.
AMerican History X is far more of a friendship movie than this
They aren't incompetent, one of them is gay! That's enough, right?
you mean gaay sh111t ?
@@Sinner987 Straight truth, a more coherent message of a character realizing his mistakes and changing. And if it was written by the people who wrote Lightyear it'd look more like Birth of A Nation.
@@SamuelCatsy Bulb beast!?!?! 😱
Pretty sure Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was already declared the canon upon which Andy's toy was based
Well, it wouldn't be the first time Disney decanonized a beloved expanded universe to create something inferior
That movie was pretty good and Zurg was fun
@@superbodoque7860 I never watched because it was a little after my time, but FrameRater's review made the series look pretty good
They also retconned Zerg and Buzz's relationship.
@@jovenc4508 Zerg: "You are not you, you're me"
Buzz: "No shyit"
Star wars prime example decononized palpatines death in return of the jedi so he returns as the big bad for the mary sue mc to fight.
A kids movie with a lesbian kiss in the 90s… yeah that makes sense.
Yeah, makes as much sense as My Chemical Romance existing in 1980s.
There were movies in the 90s with gay kisses in it but to my knowledge none of them were cartoons the closest I can think of is certain cartoons like Hey Arnold! secretly having a gay character in it.
But anyway it's a weird nitpick in my opinion to criticize this movie that isn't trying to be realistic for having a gay kiss in it because this movie that exists in another movie takes place in the 90s.
The Odd Couple aired in the 70’s and psychedelic pop was big around that time as well. Not much of a stretch, really.
@@tultsi93 Trout Mask Replica and The Residents came out nearly two decades prior, and they were both infinitely edgier than those two. Same with Pink Floyd
That sounds entirely realistic, actually. Hell, the lesbian character probably would’ve had a bigger role to play in the movie had it been made then.
I love how they ignored the fact that Zurg is Buzz's father
He's not Buzz's dad. It was a fun gag on Star Wars, that's it. Even in the Star Command show, Zurg was from a completely different planet.
LoL ya I remembered that joke from toy story 2
To me, Zurg being Buzz's father is canon. Much better than this crap that Disney/Pixar invented.
@@mainstreetsaint36 well in star command zurg used this in order to distract buzz
I thought it was pronounced Zerg like in StarCraft
I married the love of my life in 2002. Between 2004 and 2006 we had 3 miscarriages. Watching the movie "Up" with my wife in 2009 was quite emotional. In 2016 my wife died from breast cancer. The first 10 minutes of "Up" is the most relatable material that has ever come out of Hollywood.
I'm so sorry about your wife.
I'm sorry to hear about that. Your wife is in a far better place now. Hopefully, she is now resting in peace and watching you from above. Take care.
Sorry for your loss.
Shit I’m sorry about you loss.
I’m so sorry to hear your story, may God bless you.
They keep making new ways to celebrate mediocrity!
-Robert Parr
Even The Incredibles 2 was mediocre
If Pixar is gonna be like this forever until humanity is completely extinct, then I'm never gonna supporting them again for my remaining lifespan.
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme the Incredibles is one of my all time favourite movies. As soon as I heard that director Brad Bird wasn’t going to stick to the original plan of setting the sequel when Jak Jak was a teenager and his siblings were grown up (effectively ageing the family in real time), I knew he was playing the safe move, and the movie could be comfortably ignored.
@@Chud_Bud_Supreme they went from the original being one of the greatest animated films of all time to the sequel being one of the most forgettable of all time
@@jeremytitus9519 Right? I think originally he wanted Jak Jak to be the villain, or manipulated by the villain
I don't know which is more unbelievable: that they supposedly made a live-action scifi special effects powerhouse _in 1995_ that would have made ILM puke in trepidation, if it was technically possible to film at all, or that they made such a film, and did a big marketing/merchandising push to kids...with an interracial, married lesbian couple and their child as main characters, fleeting and low-key as they were, in 1995.
I mean, remember when Ellen came out on her show? I do. That was in 1997. That was tame as tapioca, and they STILL had to negotiate with the network to do it AND put a disclaimer in front of the episodes from then on!
Hell, you know what would have been a better framing device? It starts with grown-up Andy going to the movies, possibly with a kid of his own, to see the fancy new reboot of the cartoon/movie he loved as a boy. Boom, done. It's barely even a framing device, it's basically _actually what happened in real life._
Not just that. In 1992, there was a huge dust-up over Murphy Brown becoming pregnant out of wedlock, and that was an adult-targeted show. Pixar would have us believe that not three years after that, a feature film aimed at children would go farther than is frequently tolerated NOW.
@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse Modern Disney cares nothing about accurately portraying the past. They are pushing an agenda, not trying to make good movies anymore. I saw Lightyear when it came out, it was boring. Seriously, NO KID would have liked this movie back in '95.
The show does not have any of the 90's or even 80's campiness that movies in this genre had back then. I was really hoping they would go that direction. Even if they kept the gay scenes in, they would have been better off going the "galaxy quest" route.
*when I say galaxy quest I mean the show within the movie*
@@Graycata I agree with you.
@@Graycata that's an awesome suggestion. The 90s definitely had its style. You only need to look at all the summer blockbusters back then to get a feel for it.
Having Zurg turn out to be a different timeline Buzz is a plot hole as it was explained in Toy Story 2 that Zurg is Buzz's father. How did they screw that up?
Yeah that's rather upsetting
@@osets2117 it's odd because they got the crystal engine part right as it was explained in Toy Story 1, but didn't get the "No Buzz, I am your father" right?
Yup, Buzz is his own father.
while the story does involve time travel so... actually let's just pray the sequel never gets made.
That was a Star Wars gag. Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is the actual story.
If you told me to come up with a Buzz Lightyear movie about the real Buzz Lightyear, I wouldn't even begin to imagine this movie. He's descriped as "The world's greatest super hero is now the world greatest toy!" and in his game in the 2nd movie he's by him self breaking into Zurg's secret base. From this, I'd assume he's more like Samus, doing missions by him self in super dangerous places. I don't imagine psudo time skipping and the dread of realizing the month you felt has really been 40 years and now your wife is dead, your kids are adults, and they're the same age as you now, or something of a like kind. I call bull, Andy wouldn't have liked this movie.
One of his programmed catchphrases is, "It's a secret mission, in uncharted space!" which fits perfectly with your idea.
@@tomkerruish2982 If they do a sequel, I bet they'll use the phrase. They used several lines from Toy Story and Toy Story 2.
@@mainstreetsaint36 lmao as if
@@ArisanKomplek the only line they will use is “im my own father and that is ok’’
what would a kid enjoy more; a galaxy romping space opera, or fucking Interstellar..
I can't imagine Andy watching this movie and think Buzz is so cool to want a toy of him. AND considering the implied live-action effects and the gay kiss, I can't imagine this being made in 1995. It's almost like this movie was made to standalone with no connection to the Toy Story universe, but Disney can't help themselves. They have this "memberberry" tick that they just can't ignore and have to go 'MEMBER TOY STORY?!!! 'MEMBER ANDY?!!!
That was the reason people liked Soul, Luca, Encanto, Turning Red. They were NEW things!
REMEMBER THE REBEL BASE?!!1?!
No, I can't imagine that *this* was the origin of Buzz Lightyear.
This Buzz just seems too horribly bland - but Star Command's? With the wings? Totally.
@@zoch9797 I CLAPPED I CLAPPED I CLAPPED
If Andy was a kid and saw this, Toy Story would be about Woody and Star Lord. No kid watched this and said, i want a toy from this abomination. Same with Turning Red which sold zero toys.
I saw an article about how this movie was getting review bombed because of the "same sex" scene, but before that I had watched two reviews that outlined how mediocre this movie was and neither of them even mentioned that scene.
Disney and Pixar can crap out mediocre or even bad movies, and put a gay character in it, then when people review it honestly, Disney/Pixar simply says it's "trolls" and "bigots" who are downvoting because of a gay character being in the movie.
No Disney, it's because it's a bad movie. idgaf about some LGBTQIA+ whatever character, especially if it's just a tossable side-thing.
Standard outrage marketing
@Illiterate oh but a streight relationship is fine in a kids movie? Grow up weirdo.
That did actually happen... the movie is also bad but before the movie came out it was review bombed by organised groups because of the gay characters
@@josjos-x5s Articles like that always obfuscate what’s really going on, something like that may have happened but they’ll act like that’s the only reason why it gets bad reviews is because of those people.
Toy Story 2 is better in the way it handled Buzz Lightyear heck gave Zurg an actual characterization.
Even if it was a Star Wars joke Buzz was more inspired by Star Trek or Green Lanterns in terms of job. And having the family drama of Star Wars with a backdrop of sci-fi Space police. sounds way more interesting than what we got
I wanted this movie to at least references have the buzz I am your father Star Wars joke in it and the movie didn’t have it WOW!
@@bradley8575 The funniest thing is that Disney did not own Lucas Film back then, and now that they DO they did not add the reference...
This movie is less like the one Andy saw as a kid that got him to buy the toys and more like the bad reboot that Andy gets called "ist" and "phobe" for not liking.
That's been my theory too, it'd of been a "live action remaster"
The solution is to retcon Andy as the child of gender studies professors who were offended that he liked cowboys and forced him to watch progressive films like Lightyear. Eventually, Andy becomes Mandy.
Adult Andy would vote for Ron DeSantis to defund Disney-Pixar if he ever saw this piece of trash that shat all over his childhood.
This spinoff is more questionable than why the goblin turned on the stove
The greatest question that has plagued mankind for all its existence of why did the goblin turn on the stove
Dont say things you cant take back.
@@antcow1239 ok
Which Goblin are you referring to
@@cradica The one that turned on the stove
What I find hard to believe is that this is supposed to be a movie made in the mid 90s even though it’s made with current ideals and standards, I just guess the movie was very progressive for its time
Maybe in the Pixar universe society is just more progressive than in our world. If superheroes existed in the 60s (granted THEY were outlawed for a while) and a canadian teen turns into a red panda in the early 2000s with the strongest public reaction being "Wow that's freaky...well anyways-" maybe the idea of homophobia just straight up doesn't exist. Though that doesn't stop this movie from being kinda...eh well completely unnecessary.
Can someone explain to me how did Buzz Lesbian friend got pregnant? Did she have sex with a guy while in a relationship with another woman? Or are they implying a future tech thing where women can impregnate each other?
@@alenezi989a3 Simplest explanation: futa.
@@alenezi989a3 Artificial insemination exists today. They used a doners sperm to give the couple a biological child.
@@alenezi989a3 invitro fertilization.
Why would anyone watch this when the original Star Command movie exists?
I wonder?
Exactly!!
At this point, Disney is banking on RUclips reviewers trashing it, because it means SOMEONE watched it.
@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse Banking on one person vs you spending the same amount, that millions of people could've spent on, to make this movie, is not banking.
@@YouWillBeHappyOrElse I have a fealling that most modern disney films are made by filmmakers who just want to troll pepole and crush the franchise.
And who can blame them?
If I was offered millions of dollars just to direct/make a movie by disney I would make a movie like a troll
They should have leaned into the 90’s angle and made it a schlocky action movie with heart. That would have been such a fun movie. I would have made it trying to capture the vibe of movies like Batman Forever and Timecop, complete with overacting and fun, colorful action scenes.
Me too
Try to imagine Chris Evans in a fun, schlocky comedy romp aimed at kids but fun for all ages. Just try.
They clearly wanted a movie that had more in common with Interstellar than Kung Fu Panda--without understanding either--so they hired a lead actor whose preferred genre lies at the intersection of incomprehensible and condescending.
It would take some actual creative skill to pull that off. It's much easier to come up with a regurgitated Star Trek:TNG script, throw a cute animal in and call it a day.
That's what I was really hoping for in this movie. That it would be good '90s campiness.
No...how about make it a good movie like t2 and others that were good great movies from the 90s...tired of bs'ers trying to shit on 90s and 80s
I feel like the theme could have been reinforced more if we were actually shown moments where Buzz’s refusal to let others help caused problems. Every time something bad happens, it’s because someone else screws up; it’s no wonder he wants to handle it alone!
Why don’t they show us that he needs help, rather than just telling us?
Why does Mo have to be the one to constantly interrupt the plot by being inept?
Why did the goblin turn on the stove?
Here's what I find interesting:
This sci-fi movie supposedly made in the 90's has no real aliens in it. The only sentient beings are the humans. The marketing for this movie was Buzz Lightyear (for nostalgia bait) and a gay kiss.
I get the impression that Disney thinks the only "alien" thing they think their audience can handle is homosexual relationships.
Not a good look, Disney.
Damn xenophobes.
Almost as if Disney's praise of diversity and inclusion is complete bullshit and merely a marketing strategy.
The real message is you too can be your own father
Another message...a woman can get another woman pregnant?
To be fair though a sci-fi show without aliens is a cool idea. The only show I can think that’s like that is the remake of Battlestar Galactica
1. This is definitely not the movie Andy saw, and not only for there being lesbians in a 90's kid movie. This story makes Buzz much less heroic, it's a story of introspection and guilt, stuff I like on it's own, but it wouldn't have inspired the same cheering of "Take that Zurg!" when he played with the toy in his birthday party. If he managed to understand everything at his age, that the hero and the villain were the same person, he would have realized that there was nothing to cheer for in this tragedy. The only reason they added that disclaimer was to retroactively say Andy was a good kid for liking a movie with LBGT content in it, which leads me to:
2. The lesbians were the main focus, even if it was only 2 seconds of visual confirmation. Be it that they decided from the beginning to leave it there or that it was a PR reaction to their support of "Don't say gay" bill, they were so obsessed with making the movie adult in the hopes that the "pixar heartwrench" would validate the lesbians. That lead to it's identity crisis, not even The Phantom Menace struggled that hard between balancing stuff for kids and veteran fans.
while winking that the father's figure is obsolete, we have got a perfectly happy lesbian family now, and somehow finding it appropriate to release it for father's day
@@B88-h6n well buzz was Zerg and Zerg is his father so happy Father’s Day?
They tried to be validating to lesbians, yet pulled a "bury your gays"
I loved it when Buzzlightyear said "Its Buzzin time" and buzzed all of the aliens
Always nice to see my favorite alcoholic animated opossum! 🤠
Wait, is this just the American opossum version of critical drinker?!?
I read the plotline on Wikipedia and figure that only two things really killed this movie. Immediately playing victim, but most of all; having a boring plot and a really stupid twist for the villain.
the cartoon had a far more fleshed out Buzz who at first didn't want partners and had an actual reason behind that.
That's because Patrick Warburton can be funny AND dramatic. Evans, not so much.
The movie honestly feels like they wanted to have an excuse to have Chris Evans fight himself again but the writers couldn't come up with anything intelligible to make it happen
Hence the ham fisted time jumping plot line that makes literally no sense
Yay, a possum video always makes my day
This sounds like the complete opposite of what an 8 year old in 1995 would like
Kids will like almost anything as long if it looks good
@Amiibo Jeremiah But would kids really like this though? With all its drab colors and quasi-mature themes, this felt like an attempt to appeal to older audiences, not very well might I add.
I love that the garbage has steadily gone from old DVD releases to mainstream current theatrical releases.
It's like going to a rich friend's house for Thanksgiving, to discover they're serving bologna sandwiches on Wonderbread. With mayo.
Yes, it's food (technically), but not really what you'd serve up on a special occasion.
2:00 the fact that this movie was made in 1995 makes that gay kiss scene even more out of place. No kids movie from the 90s would have an openly gay character in it and if it did Andy would probably get made fun of for liking it. Im not saying its right im saying thats how it would have been back then.
ikr? I'm a '90s kid, and believe me, that movie wouldn't made into a box office. I would haven't even understood that, because I didn't know what lesbian is. I didn't even know what straight is. And my mom was very homophobic person back then so she wouldn't allowed me to watch that movie, anyway.
Heck most kids movies of that time would only have one real kiss scene, IF ANY!
I say most
@@tultsi93 well nowadays the gays rewrite history
It’s how it is now sometimes xD
All I need is more than a Light Beer to get through this movie
"All I need is more than a..." oxymoron.
Ah, I see your Toy Story reference. Where Woody called Buzz, 'Buzz Light beer.'
"I have no way of writing high-stake situations properly except turning every character into a klutz" The Movie.
I watched the Defunctland on Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, and I think it's safe to say it's probably better than this.
It was much better and if you can find it on the web BLoSC is still a solid watch.
100% better. i love XR
It was! I loved it!
It was
Considering Pixar has admitted the kiss was shoehorned into the movie exclusively to check their social justice box, it's no wonder the rest of the movie suffered because that's all these types care about now.
Really? Not even trying to hide it now?
Everyone knows about ESG now.
@@nightmarefanatic1819 Apparently, the narcissistic meltdown is accelerating. Whereas before, they were at least trying to be subtle, now it's basically just giving themselves an opportunity to insult and berate anyone who isn't impressed.
Fun fact: The movie was banned in saudi arabia because of that kiss scene
@@luckylol it’s so bad it might as well be banned for being so badly made
I think this movie tried to be Buzz Lightyear os Star Comand but failed miserably
in the series you have a Buzz that had a partner and died, he got stuck with rookies and got mad at them for being unprofessional, it was great character conflict
in the movie is... I don't want a partner but thanks though :D very polite, no conflict, what's the point?
This feels more like discount watered down Halo or Mass Effect than Buzz Lightyear. On some level, I can appreciate a darker animated sci-if film as such a thing is seldom explored in Hollywood, but the choice of IP and the execution of it all was extremely questionable. Buzz Lightyear is supposed to be goofy, over the top, lighthearted, and old fashioned in some respects, as the character was inspired by old sci-fi serials like Buck Rodgers and Flash Gordon, instead, they made it this drab Xbox cutscene that only resembled its inspiration in name.
I think some clarification is needed. After Warp “died”, Buzz was in that emotional shut off period where he didn’t want anyone else because the risk of reoccurrence with losing someone close to him might happen again. He only rejected Mira because they tried to shove her with him and he was doing the lone wolf bit as stated above. He even watched her training and was openly impressed by her. XR he was more confused about but tried once the LGM’s proved he was immune to long term damage. It was only after he was worked on by the disjointed LGM’s getting the Johnny 5 treatment that Buzz slid back into rejecting partners. Booster just kinda got swept up due to the plot and Buzz ultimately learned that a partner(s) is/were still a precious asset that he just forgot to consider due to grief.
Movie Buzz was actually kinda an arrogant jerk and dismissive without any insight and argued up until Sir Notinthismoviemuchlonger stopped being a plot point and the whole space flight story began.
But it’s still a major compare and contrast that 22 years ago, Buzz Lightyear could be written as someone who had teamwork issues and went through loss far more eloquently on TV than with 100’s of millions on the big screen from the original company. And was actually fun.
If this is supposed to be a kids' movie from 1995, there's no way there would have been pregnant lesbians in it.
This movie's plot sounds like the setup to a city builder, or a 4X game. One of the factions in Endless Legend has a similar objective
"And then Zurg's chest opens up, revealing that he's actually a robotic suit piloted by Buzz himself, only it's an alternate timeline Buzz who's fifty or sixty years old."
Did they hire someone off of fucking WattPad to write this?
My Thoughts exactly.
Especially because this reminded me to a lot of reader inserts that over complicate the stories, shoehorn ridiculously stupid twists and can't decide what audience it tries to appeal to (Fangirls, Mystery fans, etc)
This movie honestly feels like they wanted an excuse to throw an old Chris Evans at a young Chris Evans again like what happened in Endgame
Bruh Andy comes up with better stories playing with his toys than the professional movie makers within the toy story universe
I'm still just having a hard time believing that the spinoff movie about the fake backstory of a cartoon toy didn't do well.
What a good way to end off my Friday with a Possum Review
What's funny is that the animated film Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is actually more diverse than Lightyear. Rather than a boring cast consisting of humans who are 90% people of color, there's a whole plethora of alien species who come in all sorts of colors, shapes, and sizes. A ghost princess, a robot, and a big red dinosaur are far more fitting as Buzz's allies.
It's funny how they've managed to reduce "diverse" to the color of one's skin and one's choice of bedroom practices, isn't it?
This comment makes absolutely no sense. You’re saying? That fake alien raves is more diverse than actual human races? Make it make sense.
You can say it was more creative, but diverse is not the right word
@@BabyGirlTiny Do you even know what the word means? It doesn't matter if they're people or aliens. The animated film's humanoid character pool has more races than Lightyear, therefore it's more diverse.
Dude I love how blunt and straightforward you are. Mad respect, this channel rules . We need more like this in this era of fake outrage and sensitivity
Hawthorn should have been Buzzes' wife. They could have wanted to start a family together but because Buzz is so dedicated to getting home with time jumps, he eventually has to face her being gone. Now this wouldn't work coming back to planet multiple times, but if he had done a test that was much longer than he initially did, he would face a lot more impact. I think an actual screenwriter would do this better, but that's my pitch
Or maybe Buzz and his wife's kids are back on Earth, so he has a rational reason to get home. He has to choose between his kids and his wife back on the planet they're stranded on
But lesbian! PREGNANT lesbian!
@@palladiamorsdeus Lesbians can get pregnant you know? They just need a doner.
I think her being Buzz's wife would have worked better though, they could have had some other character be a lesbian.
@@mattwolf7698 Or maybe just eschew the whole pairing business entirely and focus on the explosions and spaceships and high adventure, because this is supposed to be a kids' movie by its own description.
No, that would be just as bad. Buzz doesn’t need a wife, and it just fridges her for buzz’s man pain
as a kid that grew up whit insane anxiety i will say that this movie touches on some weird points for a kids show, the whole time skipping and friends dying thing is insane to just drop unsupervised on a kids movie.
They had a very unclear target audience for sure
@@torirae414 I kinda like it though. I loved Coraline as a kid for that reason. Kids need more edgy media to think for themselves and develop properly
@@wolfetteplays8894 But this was not edgy at all, just poorly thought
@@wolfetteplays8894 I agree, but it needs to be done well. This movie is tonally dissonant and doesn't know when and where dark themes are appropriate with the proper nuance.
Fun fact: Disney apparently removed the kiss originally, but added it back in when Florida passed the parental rights in education bill
lol
lmao
Yeah, and they'll happily remove footage of black and Vietnamese characters for Chinese audiences. All for the sake of chasing after that almighty wallet.
Disney answers only to money. They're shamelessly corporate to the bone. Anybody that says otherwise is a fool.
damn didn’t know could be as salty as a 7 yearold kid who didn’t get desert XD
Bruh that's cheap
Yeah the 3 second kiss that triggered conservatives.
Sounds like plenty of things happen and places to go, because story needs them to happen.
Also, Moe's arc seems suspiciously close the inanimate carbon rod from The Simpsons' "Homer Goes To Space" episode.
no surprise. Disney also owns the Simpsons so they can recycle any plot they want from there. it's basically a treasure trove of ideas they could never come up with.
I'm pretty sure the "backlash" about that lesbian kiss was mostly "journalists" framing it as the main reason the movie isn't doing well, because it's free outrage to generate clicks. Then a few dumbasses from both ends of the spectrum leaned in on it, and it blew up more than it was actually relevant to anyone. It's a strawman to deflect actual criticism and then play the "bigot" card to get a few braindeads on your side for the screeching choir. It's almost theatrical how manufactured, yet superficial these elements tend to be, and how it's always shitty opinion posters claiming to be journalists who then make molehills into mountains.
There were people who didn't like it for that reason. But it was a loud minority.
I think the creators are trying to do the same thing the creators of the women's Ghostbusters did. Call everyone who doesn't like your thing a -phobe or -ist so those people look bad and loose credibility
If I'm being honest Pixar really hasn't had a compelling movie in a LONG time. At this point I think the only reason they are still relevant is because they are one of the few animated film studios still running so they don't need to set a high bar
They're just kind of sitting on their reputation now.
Coco was alright it was an enjoyable movie nice story
I don’t remember any of the movies that came out after it even though I know I watched a few
Soul was pretty good
Illumination have set the bar to the ground floor. This is just Pixar tripping where they usually jump over.
Turning red was a really good movie, that should have been in theaters buuut nooo nostalgia and brand recognition comes first and they shot themselves in the foot when it floops haha
ok... let me get this straight, so following thier logic of timetravel, theres a 70 year old buzz that wanted to undo everything, but theres a past self trying to stop that from happening to prevent the current timeline, because if it was undone this timeline wouldnt exsist, which mean there can only be one timeline, which means the only explanation for future buzz is that he will eventually become the villain. but that cant be true because buzz would know nearly everything that wouldve happened, so that must mean hes from an alternate reality and alternate realities are possible and the movie made a bullcrap excuse for conflict... good fricken job i guess... you really shouldve kept the idea of toy story 2 and made zorg his father... there wouldve been a lot of ways to make it a twist even with the audience who watched toy story 2
Not only that, Buzz has the chance to make everything right again...but doesn't, because "These people wouldn't exist!' Its just...dumb. This whole movie is dumb.
but time travel hurt brain
This should've been some kind of nostalgia trip made to look like an actual kids movie from the 90s. There's so much that could've been done creatively I think.
He really takes the words out of my mouth every time 💀
Why are companies like Disney entrusted with making our entertainment when they have proven over and over again that they have no idea what they’re doing?
It's less of incompetence and more of arrogance.
They think you're stupid. That you'll just aimlessly consume product, regardless of quality. Especially if they think it's the right mixture of social-political virtue signaling to reflect whatever political goings-on are at the time. AKA corporate pandering.
Frankly, I hope Disney keeps losing money. It's time companies like it learn some humility.
Because people give them money.
I'll stick to the animated movie from 2000 with it's animated series. It was SOOOO much cooler.
I'm glad we can count on you to give actual critiques of films like this. Thanks.
Honestly the Zurg villan twist was the thing that really brought it down for me....If he was literally any other character like Buzz's farther or the Rookie from the beginning it would have been find and made sence if done right
Wait, was this movie supposes to be a 1995 kids movie!? This movie stink post 2020 Hollywood. Seriously, Zurg is meant to be a spoofy of Darth Vader AKA space overlord that, plot twist, is the protagonist father. All Pixar had to do was a simple story of Buzz stopping Zurg from doing overlord villain stuff like exploding a planet or enslaving an alien race.
One of the few cases where simplicity would have been preferred.
Lightyear should have been inspired by old 50s pulps, like Dan Dare, Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers. Instead of that, they tried to ape Interstellar and failed miserably. The old "Star Command" cartoon wasn't perfect but it handled the concept WAY better than this thing. Also, SPOILER making Zurg and Buzz the same person because of time travel shenanigans is the WORST IDEA EVER. Zurg is supposed to be an alien evil emperor. In this movie he's not alien, he's not evil and he's not an emperor. He's not even a character, but an empty suit. So, in short: I'm heartbroken with how the movie turned out.
The way you said Buzz keeps hopping into the future and sees everyone grow old and die reminded me of Adam Sandler's Click. It's funny to imagine people at Pixar watching that and being like "yeah, this will be Buzz's backstory"
I sort of knew this was going to be bad, no matter how badly I wanted it to be good. The Toy Story series, (it stopped at 3. There is no Toy Story 4. At least not in my heart.) Is by far my favorite franchise. In the pioneer days of CGI, Pixar was by far the GOAT, and had amazing storytelling abilities, and great VAs to boot. Once Disney bought them, (because they were bleeding money, and unable to compete with the masters of 3D themselves), their content dropped a bit, but not noticeably so. That is until the dark age of animation known as “The Woke Era”. It can also be called the cash grab era, because alongside pushing an agenda, they were also mostly soulless. I knew Lightyear would be no different, and it breaks me to see my childhood reworked, revamped, and rehashed to hell and back.
I'll never forgive general audiences for not seeing Princess and the Frog and thus condemning feature film in classic animation style to be abandoned.
@SteelyMan's Hermit Funkclub “Fall of an art form”, “politicizing of animation”, “hijacking of childhoods”, take your pick my guy.
I thought it was a weird idea from the start(though it looked interesting)
@SteelyMan's Hermit Funkclub "The Animated Dark Age", for starters
Another person who hates toy story 4, I still think toy story 2 is the best in the franchise but 3 was still a perfect ending, they didn't need to throw everything from toy story 3 out the window just so they can make extra money, especially if there are planning to make this in the first place!
INB4 the mouse assassinates him.
Badly drawn possum: "Hi, I'm a possum and I find garbage..."
*Instant subscribe.*
11:51 - The jetpack was obviously part of the ejector system. Imagine you ejected out into space to avoid a crash. You'd just be drifting off in the direction you ejected in, that's no help at all. The jetpack is obviously there to help you fly to safety, and the wings are for when you're ejecting in an atmosphere.
Imma just defend Jar Jar, yes he's annoying and gets way too much attention from the first film but he is absolutely necessary
He's the reason amidala figures to find the gungans for help and he knows where they bugger off to safety from the federation
If i had a nickle for every disney movie that had the supporting cast who were all incompetant idiots that ruin everything and then the plot says the main character is wrong for not wanting their help because of the value of friendship, I'd have 2 nickles, which isnt alot butnit's wierd that it happened twice. (the other movie with this plot is Tinkerbell: The Lost Treasure)
You know what would've worked better?
The original Buzz Lightyear movie.
Outside of that, why not make Buzz an orphan and have Star Command be an intergalactic police force with humans being a recent addition to the Galactic Alliance, and Buzz being a young recruit. He's shown to have top marks but has issues with teamwork and facilitating hard decisions, showcased when he hesitated shooting a practice drone holding a fake child hostage or attempting to negotiate with it. Even have his lone-fighter mindset reinforced not only by having him pursue a criminal (revealed to be an informant of Zurg) alone, abandoning his teammates prior, but have him physically retaliate against a snide comment by an alien partner directed at Buzz because he's human. Yes, I'm taking a lot from Mass Effect, but bear with me.
After capturing the criminal, Buzz interrogates him.and we see a bolt on his hand with Zurg's Emblem on the head. After stating "Zurg is coming" he slams the bolt on the back of his hand hard into the chair, causing him to atomize in a bright explosion. All the while, a broadcast on TV shows an alien planet explode at the exact same time, and Buzz catches sight of it when it shifts to Zurg in a dark silhouette, announcing that he will "destroy those who have ripped scars across the stars; who stain the black void red. Know that I am Emperor Zurg, and I will reep this galaxy." Have Buzz and his team (maybe including Warp Darkmatter from the first movie, and have him act all buddy-buddy with Buzz up until the second-to-last segment of the second act and revealed to be Zurg's right hand man) lay siege to a stronghold with Zurg in it, and have Zurg take out Buzz's team quickly, but noticeably ignore Buzz. Then Buzz attacks him head-on, and Zurg grabs his helmet, lifting him up. Zurg would say "So this is the great Buzz Lightyear, Star Command's star recruit. It truly has been too long since we've last met." And then throw him back into a room far away from the door they were both at.
After the second act, not only reveal that Warp is a double agent, but have Warp say "After what the Axiom Collective have done, I thought you'd be on his side." Buzz says "What about the Axiom? How does that affect me?" Then have Zurg walk in, saying "Everything." He then goes on a long speech Talking about how the races in the Axiom Collective have wrought Hell on the races in the new and fairly strong Zurg Empire, citing that the affected planets have banded together in a new Empire under a ruler that already took out 5 stronghold worlds alone. It's then revealed that Zurg was affected when he says "Even my world of Morph in Quadrant 9 was not safe." It's then that Buzz says "Morph? What do you know about Morph? It was destroyed by an ancient war machine malfunctioning. I would know; they found me in the rubble." Zurg removes his helmet saying "I know, I hid you there," revealing himself to be (DUN DUN DUNN) Buzz Lightyear's father. It turns out Zurg was taken as a slave by the Axiom Collective and put Buzz in a hypersleep capsule in a blastproof vault, but was taken before he could activate the Star Command marker so they could find him. Even showing that most of his body is mechanical, a result of him replacing his broken body with a modified battle suit meant for Axiom soldiers and advanced prosthetic limbs. Buzz at some point breaks out and swears to stop him. Zurg, outraged and confused as to how his own son could turn against him, attempts to stop him from destroying the ship core of the Entropitus, Zurg's flagship and lead battleship.
The ending would be fairly rote material: Buzz stops Zurg, Buzz's team saves him, big ship go boom, and have a big celebration where Buzz celebrates what momentary peace he has. Then an after-credits showing Other Zurg races retrieving Warp and Zurg from sealed escape pods.
More thought went into your comment than this movie, I'd like to see it
@Vixen Lunastra Yeah, I wrote this up pretty quickly and I REALLY wanted to keep that joke twist from Toy Story 2. I already kept in Buzz's actual homeworld, Warp Darkmatter, and the Galactic Alliance, so I thought why not keep the Star Wars parody twist from the second film's elevator scene.
If this movie is a movie in the ToyStory universe, this mean that (if we assume that ToyStory happens in 1990-200x)
this movie is supposed to be created around 2000.
I'm not homophobic but i'm pretty sure we weren't too happy about showing LGBT stuff in kids movies in 2000 (especially if we are talking about Disney) so it makes it kinda unrealistic in a way.
Then again we could imagine that the ToyStory universe is devoid of discrimination.
The movie canonically came out in 1995, it says at the beginning.
Given everything I’ve heard about this movie, I’d be happy sticking with Buzz Lightyear of Star Command! At least that had the flame thrower!
“OOOH THE FLAME THROWER!!”
Zerg - hilarious line!
Fun fact: it’s the first Pixar movie in a hot minute that had and ACTUAL ANTAGONIST
What about Mr. Waternoose from Monsters Inc. and Hopper from A Bugs Life?
@@possummagic3571 Those were both made a while ago though
@@possummagic3571 did you not read the part that said "in a hot minute"?
@@osets2117 I don't know what the fuck that means.
@@creativename1072 Okay then. What about Charles Muntz from Up? Skinner from Ratatouille? Syndrome and Screenslaver from the Incredibles movies? Ernesto from Coco? Ercole from Luca?
"It could of been written out of the movie and it wouldn't of made any difference"
That's their plan for the Chinese release.
Didn't they already go, "No, we're not removing it for anyone!" which is why it got banned from theatrical exhibition in a bunch of countries?
And the Saudi Arabian release. And the Russian release.
6:20 I hope I'm not the only one that got Star Wars vibes from that scene
Christ I knew this would be a fucking trainwreck and I love it. Watching these cash grabs tank is always beautiful
As mediocre and unnatural as Shrek 4 felt - to me at least. Yeah, even shrek fell to overusage.
And oh boy Ice Age... Why are all of these kids films?
As Mr. Krabs puts it “MONEY” and nothing else (most likely)
They are all kids films because of a single word: merchandise.
Every Ice Age is literally just a hike somewhere. It's actually crazy that they got away with doing the same thing that many times.
Shrek 4 was decent, it's just the 3rd one was bad
@@lee43795 3 was definitely Shrek’s downfall and went a little up a little after 4 and the end.
What annoys me so much is how Disney can say it is all for same sex marriage but then turn around and force owl house to end in three episodes.
What can I say Possum, you nailed it!
Always good to see yet another childhood icon drowned in the bottomless sea of mediocrity
13:17 this is another example as to why the Star Command cartoon was better. He had trust issues in the cartoon too but we were given at the beginning why that was.
Oof. All in all, it seems like Zerg was the real hero - he was still trying to get far enough back in time to save the original crew. Of which, there were a lot more than the few in the new timeline, and who all died of old age waiting for Buzz to fix the problem he caused to begin with. Zerg-Buzz hasn't failed or abandoned them - but this other Buzz is stopping him from saving the MANY in favor of the FEW who he JUST MET. People who won't actually even die - they will just never have been to begin with, as they shouldn't have EXCEPT for Buzz's constant foul-ups.
I'm glad I gave this flick a pass.
Wait, she's a lesbian and married another woman, then he comes back and she's pregnant? How they explaining that one? Some kind of future genetic synthesis where they can bioengineer sperm cells from female genes or something? I haven't watched it, legitimate question.
Stop you’re giving me a headache
By the power of poor writing
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That was my question too
Turn your brain off, that's how you enjoy bad movies
"this will wipe the other from existence "face palm , you would have never met them either way in doing so saved millions of lives and stopping zerg from ever happening its 2 generations of 3 people at the cost of a whole colony
My problem is that if Zurg is Buzz then this just wipes Zurg from existence and thus the toyline doesn't have a villain.
Thx for the review
This movie is banned in my country 💀💀
I have a question that nobody else has asked before, in toy story 2 it's revealed that Woody was the main character of a 1950s puppet show called "Woody's Roundup", Woody is simply a piece of merchandise from that show but the puppets they used in the show would be the original Woody's Roundup characters, so whatever happened to them? Did they get sent to a museum like Woody was going to be? Or did they simply deteriorate due to time and were eventually discarded? If that's the case then did they escape and are now out in the world? Did they just accept their fate and decide to be put in the museum like toy Jessie and Stinky Pete? And if Woody was such a huge character back then that means that there would have to be other Woody dolls like him but we never see any of them, I think it's implied that he's a rare piece of merchandise which is why the chicken guy took him in the first place, but if he was such a phenomenon then Woody dolls should have been mass produced left and right!
Now that should be a toy story spin off.
There were a lot of them produced, it's just that they all got played with and fell apart.
@@tomkerruish2982 that makes a lot of sense, but it's very unlikely that there's only ONE more Woody doll in existence that's still intact, I know that they're really old because the show came from the 50s but even in a movie where toys come alive I think that there would be more than one woody still in decent condition. But hey, what do I know? I ain't one of the directors of the movie I just watch it!
@@Tree_e888 I think there probably are but it’s rare enough that you don’t find em often so if you can find one in a yard sale to complete your collection you’re gonna jump on that opportunity
Here's a better question; how are the Toys alive in the first place? Do the children impart a bit of their consciousness in them, and then they come to life? How are many of them able to move their limbs when some don't have joints? Also, all the toys don't have vocal cords, how are they talking? And how are they able to see and hear? You need both ears and eyes and a working brain to translate the visual and audio stimuli.
I heard somewhere that the lesbian kiss scene actually was edited from the film, but Disney decided to put it back in, in order to thumb their nose at Ron Desantis.
Close. After the parental rights bill some 200 of the millions of employees at Disney striked like assholes and sent a letter to the head board about supporting lgb that led to them hyper pandering to lgb and putting the kiss back in which was originally cut for time because it was meaningless and added nothing
Andy's mom would of never let him watch this, he was watching star command
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one it is.
At least were flying half a ship!
Why would Buzz think resetting the timeline would erase the others, when it's already clear that TIMELINES SPLINTER OFF, since an alt-universe Buzz from a different timeline is already right friggin' in front of him, meaning those timelines endure despite changes in causality?
And why would Future Buzz, also knowing that alternate timelines exist, not consider that there is ALREADY a timeline where they didn't crash the ship, and that his changing the past will merely create another alternate timeline?
Oh, yeah... the writers are too stupid to understand the concepts they're playing with.
Just once, I would like the Rat to commit to its empty corporate preaching. Make the next Disney character an openly gay Prince and structured just like any of their princess stories. Nothing gratuitous or weird, just a typical fairy tale story with a gay Central character. That way, they couldn't erase it for foreign markets even if they wanted to. Come on, Rat. Let's see if you actually have a pair.
Than it would get banned.
@@alexgomez6723 better to be banned than them continuing to be cowards
That would be a great way to lose a) the foreign markets they obsess over and b) solid chunks of the domestic market. This movie is already underperforming, if they went with that you'd have a Mars Needs Moms-level flop on your hands.
@@josjos-x5s it goes along the idea of "I don't care if you don't like it, it stays the way it is". If they actually believed if the ideals they say forth they wouldn't change it no matter what someone says
@@osets2117 I know I know Disney is a corporate cash grab but the people at pixar themselves fought back against Disney. That's all I'm saying
If this movie actually was from 1995 disney wouldnt exist today.
“Critics are buzzing about the new Lightyear movie!” 😑
How Pixar managed to make a movie about something as cool as futuristic space soldiers and interstellar travel this boring and forgettable is beyond me.
Don’t watch this movie, unless you enjoy virtue signaling and the cast acting like children who have never been told, “No,” after receiving the slightest bit of criticism.
Just turn on Starship Troopers or Alien, and you’ll have just as good of a time (an even better one if you’ve never seen either or just like good sci-fi movies in general).
I liked Star Trek: The Motion Picture, so.........
@@mainstreetsaint36 to be fair there's Star wars which is also a good pick if we're going with classics. Oh and The last Starfighter as well. And if you're into TV shows well there's Battlestar Galactica. in essence you could go through a dozen different good properties before bothering with this movie. That's not even counting the buzz lightyear cartoon from back when I was a kid. Now that was good and was well done and I think still holds up compared to this dreck of a movie. I like how possum even used a few scenes in this review.
That, or just stick with OG cartoon/movie from the early 2000's.
The OG buzz lightyear cartoon had literally the same arc as this buzz but well written.
@@mainstreetsaint36 But Wrath of Khan was much better, you have to admit. The Motion Picture was just trying to emulate 2001, but Wrath of Khan had an actual story to tell.
Okay first: Yours is the first review that actually talked about the story. That I've listened to anyway.
Second, I'm glad this has Nothing to do with the cartoon.
I remember working at my local AMC on opening weekend of Lightyear and it was mostly adults who watched the movies no families attended.
If there's what I suggest if the film writers wanted a power of friendship trope, despite how tiresome and typical post-Disney is pushing for. For a value of friendship, for Buzz not letting others help him, make buzz a sole survivor of a space mission, since he lost his team of his command of a bad mission, it would make sence why Buzz Lightyear would have trouble allowing people help him.
Inspiration for me would be from Flash Gordon and Mass Effect, if I was given the story idea.
For my perspective on this Lightyear film, I do not see much that I would be interested to see, as it looks typically pc and cheap storytelling that even a child would seek elsewhere for entertainment.
The current toys I’ve seen imply the Zurg Robots are called “Zyclops,” but this movie just calls them “Zurg Robots”? Huh.
Also this whole “Zurg is Future Buzz” plot twist brings up plot holes if it really is being portrayed as what Andy originally saw.
Sox carried the whole movie, even though he was only made to sell toys, which I know because I saw a whole bunch of them at Walmart (and I MIGHT have bought one because he's the best character in the movie, I MIGHT have....)
You son of a bitch... YOU'RE FEEDING THE MACHINE, MAN!
I haven't seen it but I have a weakness for cute cat things so I would probably actually like a plush of Sox just because he's cute.
@@nightmarefanatic1819 they ain't cheap but they're worth it!
I want a sox that works. Like the movie.
6:32 - That was explained though. Old Buzz said the vocal processing bullshit was damaged by the timey wimey bullshit, they were trying to say "Buzz" but they said "Bahzurg" instead. I get that it's not exactly airtight, but it's something.