One thing I love about Hardcore is that it really makes me appreciate high levels again. From the release of vanilla to Wrath, it was always cool to see level 60, 70, 80 players running around because you know it took time and effort to get there. But in current retail WoW, no one gives a shit if you're max level because it's so easy to get there. HC has brought that feeling back for me.
Classic HC has caused me to be more aware of the other players and to actively try to help them when I can. There are absolutely jerks out there, but it seems like HC is causing a lot of folks to..actually work together.
Same, always great to give out a nova or a sheep to help out someone who's about to die. Can't have heroes without villains or danger. That being said, don't put yourself in harm's way unless you want to be a martyr :)
Playing last night and at Princess when someone/group would tag her five other people were jumping her as well. Same with the Defias guys there ... the piggies and the bandits were having a bad night, lol.
Watching that Mage, as a former Mage main, just flat out bleed out from the poison when Block is available is so painful to watch. Some real tragic deaths in this comp. Fully agree that they should fix bugs like falling through reality and mobs z-axising you to death. Those aren't fun things to deal with in a mode where you got one shot.
He deserved to die. Goes in for the arcane explosion drive by. Why? Lol. He could of just kited and waited for his CDs, kept his mana, had half as many stacks. OG vanilla mages know AE is sort of like suicide bombing lol. Should unbind that spell on a HC server 😂
I mean, who am I to judge, but I just can't understand the point of AoE farming on Hardcore. One small mistake can easily kill you, and you are avoiding most of the things that make hardcore fun.
@@TheConnoiseurofTheArtofSnort Doing something risky and doing something stupid is not the same ting. I know you didn't specifically talk about this mage, and just in general. But I don't agree that AOE farming without knowing the basics is necessary to be able to encounter the fun and risky plays you are talking about.
@@davidento9611 aoe farming is fairly easy... But most HC/era players are clickers/have grandma gaming skills so i can see why you'd call it risky and dangerous :) Still wouldn't touch that worgen spot, it's probably the most dangerous place to AOE farm at. Turbo worgens down there, poison worgens up, and very little kiting room. That mage death was very well deserved regardless, he could easily have made it out. Now wetlands gnolls, goshek peons, tanaris pirates, dancing trolls are all super easy spots to AOE farm at. Murlocs and western plaguelands i'd say medium difficulty. Worgens to me are high/highest fatality rate, and at the same time it's probably the most skippable aoe spot, you just quest ashenvale instead, which you want to do for your Light of Elune anyway.
Think i've witnessed one of the craziest saves in wowhc. A war in front of me in Redridge Mountains attacked a gnoll caster, he unfortunately started to run out of HP, one more cast and he was gone. The gnoll casted his lightning bolt and the war with 8hp resisted it and lived. Crazy moment
Out of the 15 or whatever years I've played WoW the biggest thing I learned was you can always count on the vast majority of random players to be absolutely terrible at the game.
I was the Paladin tank at 5:50. That was wild. We had two rogues and a warrior just ripping threat on every mob, no one was attacking my target after asking numerous times. I was surprised we didn't all die
Hey Wando (priest 12:34 ) sorry about the death but if you are reading this, you could have made it. 1- never dispeled nova on you 2- never dispelled thunderclaps on you 3- after leaving party, you should have used Fade and you be loosing threat on the 2 mobs and HS out. Too late for Wando, but I hope this helps someone else in a similar position in the future. cheers
So many of these are like... if the people would commit to the kill, they'd actually come out on top. Just watched the priest and warrior duo, they would've killed it if the priest stayed and committed. The Zoram Strand warlock one was close and he would've killed easier if he just committed instead of running back, could've bandaged after killing one and fearing the other.
I am a noob to classic. When I played Classic HC with a plug in NO trading NO party Solo Only Since Im new to the game, I was watching videos about every cave , every dungeon, every place I was about to visit. Managed to get to 50 and stopped playing as it got too hard lol. But HC rocks.
Died last night to the Horde trio in Loch Modan literally spawning on top of me and agroing before they had fully faded in from spawn, absolutely unfair. I ran as soon as I saw the first glimpse and they still immediately agro'd even though they were still half visible from the spawn. So freaking stupid, blizzard needs to fix z-axis and add a grace period on agro for mobs as they spawn. Dying to something spawning on top of you and agroing before you can react or hitting you with melee through walls while definitely out of range is totally stupid and unfair.
I have heard the same that mobs spawn on top of them or right next to them and they aggro, but for me that does not happen even though I have had mobs spawning right next to me. If just move away in the right time window all is good.
As a healer in classic, I always stay outta Los as much as possible. That pally could of avoided those mana burns with better positioning. I think most people forget healer aggro is very much a real thing.
That final death hits hard. That's exactly how I died on my mage.. I was so angry because I had light of elune and ice block available, but didn't notice the poison until it was too late
0:40 well, we don't know what happened before, everyone seems to be pretty much oom, one mage and the pala seem to use a mana potion. The paladin has def aura, but the tank is out of range, he gets it when he is in range, maybe they got hit by the skeletons and that was a bigger problem than the shadow damage. In principle it should be ideal for the healer in that fight to have only ranged DPS, but there is one huge caveat: The healer has to time a big (enough) heal to pull the skeletons away from rivendare whenever they appear, and they have to be nuked quickly (which shouldn't be a problem with two mages), so don't have everyone always topped up to be able to generate healing aggro when needed. If the skeletons stay near Rivendare they heal him, maybe that's what happened one or two times before, it would explain the low mana and the chaotic movement, maybe the mage ran forward to place flamestrike and draw the skeletons, but he should have corrected his positioning, the interrupts from the aura damage are much worse for his dps than a bit of movement (how can a caster not notice this?).
You can see Improved Lay On Hands on the druid, which was used only seconds before the clip begins. That's why the paladin is out of mana and uses a potion. Aura range is 30 yards without a very specific set bonus, so you're right. It's normal that the tank wouldn't have it. I'm thinking that the issue here was mages being undisciplined, running around and taking unnecessary damage. BoP on the druid was a risky play, but it's understandable with the druid being very low and having Mortal Strike on him. Can't say for sure since we only see the tail end of the dungeon, but I like how the paladin played.
@@Zuron The LOH would've been played at oom, maybe letting the tank drop to 30%. The thing is, with only ranged DPS and a decent equipped bear healing should not be a huge problem, and at the start of the clip the DPS are at 80%+. Even one mage eating shadow aura damage should be healabe, and one mage a few meters in front to nuke skeletons before they reach the pala would be sensible. Also it seems like the Pala has some downranked heals at hand to conserve mana. Nevertheless shadow aura is default for that fight, i wonder if there was some reasoning or the pala just forgot to switch. I also wonder why the pala drops to 30% at the very start.
I used to have people SCREAM in teamspeak over healer letting you die in a raid... Imagine with perma death... I bet youd get IRL deaththreats for letting your tank die.
Hardcore really forces you to respect the game. All mobs can kill you if you don't take them seriously. It's the one thing that makes us semi relive Vanilla, it's great.
I can feel that one guy who suffered from the z-axis bug. I just lost my level 19 warrior to being attacked by a mob AFTER jumping off a tower into the water below. So f'ing pissed right now.
I dont remember which MMO had it... But instead of perma death you are just logged out for 24 hours. I think this is a happy medium where you are still pumping adrenaline when you almost die but dont quit the game after 1 or 2 deaths. It made pvp fun cuz when you kill a player you are banishing them from the game for 24 hours.
I think we’re seeing a lot of players that are botting and doing the yellow route and then playing after they sing 60. We are seeing so many people that it’s mind boggling they made it that far and then they suck badly…. And it’s not just playing badly, but overall bad setups, not prepared to play HC. Those that have been in the HC scene know. It’s a dif mentality and that drives choices like profession choice and down to even how u approach questing and grinding.
my friend and me played, I have completed alone the murlock quest, then next day I helped her with it. First she "accidentally" fell down from a clearly visible cliff into two murlocks from which one was a rate elite, then after defeating them, we pulled one but 3 came, told her to run, I run into a corner because it was the only remote place where I could go and not pull more even if they flee, she run into the water instead where it was clearly visible that there are 2 more murlocks... how the hell she can play tank on retail if she is so clumsy and has no periferal vision! Retail is so freaking forgiving and skill ruining.
WoW needs to make a Last Man Standing mode. Make people have to sign up for the mode before the "season" starts. Divide registered players amongst various servers based on registrants. Servers goes live, and it's Permadeath. Once a week, the minimum level requirement goes up by 5. If you are under the level requirement when it goes up, you get purged from the server. Only the players who registered before it went live can play, and when they die, or don't level fast enough, they get kicked out of the server for the rest of the season. Give players account wide rewards and titles for hitting milestones in this server. Like the first to 80 gets a unique title they can use on non-HC servers, the last remaining 100 players on the server get a unique mount for their other characters, etc.
That last one was pretty horrible. Dude had iceblock and never used it. I farmed the hell out of that area on my mage. There's a few areas that have no caster mobs but they hit pretty hard. If you're 1-2 levels above them it's a joke to farm.
I was questing in Silverpine forest yesterday leveling my first HC rogue 12 lvl, I had a breeze, no close calls. I was farming grizzlies and these werewolves and saw a dead pleayer's body, thinking like 'lol, did he just die from a bear? Kinda unlnucky tbh' and then this MOFO Son of Arugal just came from behind and annihilated me in 2 seconds I just couldn't register what happened for a sec. 10/10 HC would do it again
Tanking sm armory on harod. Boas fight starts , group of elite adds spawn in his room warlock runs off , healer instant oom and boom goes the dynamite. Other players are your worst enemies.
I was in westfall hills working on the last defias leg, on my warrior. I was kiting one mob away from two others and 3 mobs respawned ONTOP of me. So 3 new melee, plus the two melee i was kiting and a mage. I was slowed which allowed the mage to get a freeze off. 80% 30% 3% dead.
Smart warlocks would go affliction and get the healing from corruption and siphon life, then make sure to pump the ever loving shit out of +shadow damage. I actually removed immolate from my bars. It's not worth the mana and cast time. Corruption, siphon life, curse of agony and shadow bolt/life drain if low hp.
I don't play HC... I'd only make it to level 10 before I'd die after accidently pulling a herd of bears or being swarmed by respawning murlocs. There's just no way. It takes a village to make it to 60 in HC, and when I saw a village, I mean you need like a team of 4 others who won't abandon ship on you... but let's face it, they'll let you die alone if it saves them. I mean, we all would. I can't imagine making it all the way to Naxx and dying there. And that's real easy to do, too. Naxx in classic is ridiculous. You survive all the other raids... and those are hard as hell to do normally, but without dying... and go to Naxx and get beat up.... Classic is brutal enough.
can't the warrior at 5:35 - 5:40 ish submit a ticket since he has a video clip of him glitching through the wall like that? that wasn't a death on his end, a duel, overpull mob, bossmechanics, mob mechanics,etc. that was a blizzard's fault death.. no?
Hardcore made me realize that rouges are always the first to flee in instantions + they usually have like the most stupid deaths in the compilations I'm going to call them rougetards from now
You're absolutely right about not holding it against the player if it's not their fault. That irritates me so much when people wish ill will on people who make dumb mistakes and still live in most cases. I don't think that mage did anything that cost the party their lives, so why wish them death? lol. If the game kills the player, it's BS, regardless if the player was playing optimal or not.
Fun fact people may not realize, classic era servers changed it to where the max nameplate distance is 20 yards. Their is no command or anything you can do to change this that i know of
When will mages learn vanilla arcane explosion is a death sentence. Uses too much mana, gets you hit in melee, just always the wrong call in HC vanilla overall lol
5:39 If there's ever a reason for a GM to revive a hardcore player. This is it. I'd be so fucking irrationally pissed off for like a week minimum. I'd honestly get pissed every time I thought about it. I've experienced shit like this. It's the worst feeling imaginable.
I'd hope the guy who fell through the floor is/was able to appeal that shit. Same thing with the mage and the attacks going through the wall. Bug deaths like that should absolutely be allowed to restore the character. It's not like they were overconfident or did something stupid. I hate how so many on the forums after I searched to see if there is an appeals process said essentially 'git gud and do agane' and you KNOW they'll be the ones who scream the loudest when it happens to them.
The only time I ever died 1-60 in vanilla back in 2006 was from BGs or group wipes. All my solo questing was fine (rogue vanish) so I reckon I would safe it to 60 with quests lol
8:08 Every man for himself. You fucked it up for your healer, got a man killed? Time to flee. There was likely no winning in that situation with an already uncoordinated team.
i've never played warcraft before but this was worth watching. i now know how my gf feels when i show her stuff in osrs, because i am pretty clueless of what's going on in the clips.
Not neccessary to call people special or clowns. It's good to see new players in the game and there are thousands of small facts you will learn the hard way. That's what makes classic so good. A real game with a real challenge.
I understand the no changes for classic. But classic wasn't designed for a hardcore play through. Blizz should fix stuff accordingly, just for hardcore imo. The falling off maps and hits through walls, for example.
At the same time, the tank was getting kind of low and he was busy keeping the group up. But having rogues who suck, he better had used LoS. Had even been worth a bubble to avoid the mana burn. That was crazy. 50% of his total hp and of his total mana gone.
This is what happens when you have a hundred thousand people telling Blizzard not to change a damn thing about Vanilla when making Classic, btw. The bugs existed twenty years ago, were fixed as a part of future content. People wanted no future content, so they got no bug fixes.
I mean it's decades old at this point .... but the BS of mobs being able to shoot through walls, floors, ceilings, hills, rocks ....... FFS, SMH. LMAO.
1:47 if he was really good, why would he pull the boss closer to the healer, who didn't run closer to the boss? 2:07 Brain dead take as it so often is. You can literally see the paladin all the way in the back casting healing spells....
Z-axis hits are indeed a strange old bug but its not realy new and you should know about it if you play classic and plan around it, Alot of the deaths to it are completly avoidable if they played with that in mind. and compared to the new "windfury" bug they introduced with vanila classic id say Z-axis ranks lower in things that need to be fixed.
I'm so on board with Asmon's enjoying the sight of mages dying from AOE farm. As a lifelong melee enjoyer, it's way too satisfying to see the cheese classes get brought down a peg.
One thing I love about Hardcore is that it really makes me appreciate high levels again. From the release of vanilla to Wrath, it was always cool to see level 60, 70, 80 players running around because you know it took time and effort to get there. But in current retail WoW, no one gives a shit if you're max level because it's so easy to get there. HC has brought that feeling back for me.
100% agree
except for character boosts in tbc and wrath
@@perchy-r9h pretty sure the comment meant the old days, not current classic woltk and tbc
Well the "End Game" of retail isn't max level, it is max iLvl.
It is replaced with running around on the various mounts like gladiator mount or mount that last boss drops in mythic raids
Classic HC has caused me to be more aware of the other players and to actively try to help them when I can. There are absolutely jerks out there, but it seems like HC is causing a lot of folks to..actually work together.
exactly! everyone buffing each other while running by, finishing each others mobs
Same, always great to give out a nova or a sheep to help out someone who's about to die. Can't have heroes without villains or danger. That being said, don't put yourself in harm's way unless you want to be a martyr :)
Playing last night and at Princess when someone/group would tag her five other people were jumping her as well. Same with the Defias guys there ... the piggies and the bandits were having a bad night, lol.
Watching that Mage, as a former Mage main, just flat out bleed out from the poison when Block is available is so painful to watch. Some real tragic deaths in this comp.
Fully agree that they should fix bugs like falling through reality and mobs z-axising you to death. Those aren't fun things to deal with in a mode where you got one shot.
He deserved to die. Goes in for the arcane explosion drive by. Why? Lol. He could of just kited and waited for his CDs, kept his mana, had half as many stacks. OG vanilla mages know AE is sort of like suicide bombing lol. Should unbind that spell on a HC server 😂
I mean, who am I to judge, but I just can't understand the point of AoE farming on Hardcore. One small mistake can easily kill you, and you are avoiding most of the things that make hardcore fun.
@@davidento9611Risks are what makes hardcore fun and aoe farming carries immense risks
@@TheConnoiseurofTheArtofSnort Doing something risky and doing something stupid is not the same ting. I know you didn't specifically talk about this mage, and just in general. But I don't agree that AOE farming without knowing the basics is necessary to be able to encounter the fun and risky plays you are talking about.
@@davidento9611 aoe farming is fairly easy... But most HC/era players are clickers/have grandma gaming skills so i can see why you'd call it risky and dangerous :) Still wouldn't touch that worgen spot, it's probably the most dangerous place to AOE farm at. Turbo worgens down there, poison worgens up, and very little kiting room. That mage death was very well deserved regardless, he could easily have made it out. Now wetlands gnolls, goshek peons, tanaris pirates, dancing trolls are all super easy spots to AOE farm at. Murlocs and western plaguelands i'd say medium difficulty. Worgens to me are high/highest fatality rate, and at the same time it's probably the most skippable aoe spot, you just quest ashenvale instead, which you want to do for your Light of Elune anyway.
Think i've witnessed one of the craziest saves in wowhc. A war in front of me in Redridge Mountains attacked a gnoll caster, he unfortunately started to run out of HP, one more cast and he was gone. The gnoll casted his lightning bolt and the war with 8hp resisted it and lived. Crazy moment
imagine randomly dying to a bug at 52 literally falling through the floor
blizzard...
Is there some kind of appeal system? That one was just fucking BS
@@ijustreviewyes, there is. If they determine you died bc of a bug or griefer, the death doesn't count and gets reversed or w/e
@@ijustreview as far i know blizzard said: you are on your own
@@joshwalton25 No there's not. There's literally a disclaimer when you create a character that they won't do anything if you die for ANY reason
Remember... Classic players demanded no changes.
Hardcore really made me see classic in a new way. It gave me a fresh view.
@ForgiveZharionI am annoying and spamming bullshit in channels and no one likes me because I’m a loser. Did I translate it right?
because the normal way is too bored to play. so people want some special
F R E S H
@ForgiveZharionpretty sure it says "report me for spam", so that's what I did.
F R E S H
Out of the 15 or whatever years I've played WoW the biggest thing I learned was you can always count on the vast majority of random players to be absolutely terrible at the game.
I was the Paladin tank at 5:50. That was wild. We had two rogues and a warrior just ripping threat on every mob, no one was attacking my target after asking numerous times. I was surprised we didn't all die
Hey Wando (priest 12:34 ) sorry about the death but if you are reading this, you could have made it.
1- never dispeled nova on you
2- never dispelled thunderclaps on you
3- after leaving party, you should have used Fade and you be loosing threat on the 2 mobs and HS out.
Too late for Wando, but I hope this helps someone else in a similar position in the future. cheers
idk why priests never use fade. I pop that shit constantly
"sometimes you get fucked, that's life"
Asmongold 2023
No truer words have been spoken.
Infact, it is the end of life.
His face at the end too 😂
I'm gonna real, if I see the gold dragon elite around the player frame... I know they are dying 100%.
Bro I swear people in wow don't have their interrupts bound. That Uldaman clip is a perfect example.
So many of these are like... if the people would commit to the kill, they'd actually come out on top. Just watched the priest and warrior duo, they would've killed it if the priest stayed and committed. The Zoram Strand warlock one was close and he would've killed easier if he just committed instead of running back, could've bandaged after killing one and fearing the other.
I am a noob to classic.
When I played Classic HC with a plug in
NO trading
NO party
Solo Only
Since Im new to the game, I was watching videos about every cave , every dungeon, every place I was about to visit.
Managed to get to 50 and stopped playing as it got too hard lol. But HC rocks.
Died last night to the Horde trio in Loch Modan literally spawning on top of me and agroing before they had fully faded in from spawn, absolutely unfair. I ran as soon as I saw the first glimpse and they still immediately agro'd even though they were still half visible from the spawn. So freaking stupid, blizzard needs to fix z-axis and add a grace period on agro for mobs as they spawn. Dying to something spawning on top of you and agroing before you can react or hitting you with melee through walls while definitely out of range is totally stupid and unfair.
I have heard the same that mobs spawn on top of them or right next to them and they aggro, but for me that does not happen even though I have had mobs spawning right next to me. If just move away in the right time window all is good.
As a healer in classic, I always stay outta Los as much as possible. That pally could of avoided those mana burns with better positioning. I think most people forget healer aggro is very much a real thing.
That final death hits hard. That's exactly how I died on my mage.. I was so angry because I had light of elune and ice block available, but didn't notice the poison until it was too late
0:40 well, we don't know what happened before, everyone seems to be pretty much oom, one mage and the pala seem to use a mana potion. The paladin has def aura, but the tank is out of range, he gets it when he is in range, maybe they got hit by the skeletons and that was a bigger problem than the shadow damage. In principle it should be ideal for the healer in that fight to have only ranged DPS, but there is one huge caveat: The healer has to time a big (enough) heal to pull the skeletons away from rivendare whenever they appear, and they have to be nuked quickly (which shouldn't be a problem with two mages), so don't have everyone always topped up to be able to generate healing aggro when needed. If the skeletons stay near Rivendare they heal him, maybe that's what happened one or two times before, it would explain the low mana and the chaotic movement, maybe the mage ran forward to place flamestrike and draw the skeletons, but he should have corrected his positioning, the interrupts from the aura damage are much worse for his dps than a bit of movement (how can a caster not notice this?).
You can see Improved Lay On Hands on the druid, which was used only seconds before the clip begins. That's why the paladin is out of mana and uses a potion.
Aura range is 30 yards without a very specific set bonus, so you're right. It's normal that the tank wouldn't have it.
I'm thinking that the issue here was mages being undisciplined, running around and taking unnecessary damage.
BoP on the druid was a risky play, but it's understandable with the druid being very low and having Mortal Strike on him.
Can't say for sure since we only see the tail end of the dungeon, but I like how the paladin played.
@@Zuron The LOH would've been played at oom, maybe letting the tank drop to 30%. The thing is, with only ranged DPS and a decent equipped bear healing should not be a huge problem, and at the start of the clip the DPS are at 80%+. Even one mage eating shadow aura damage should be healabe, and one mage a few meters in front to nuke skeletons before they reach the pala would be sensible. Also it seems like the Pala has some downranked heals at hand to conserve mana. Nevertheless shadow aura is default for that fight, i wonder if there was some reasoning or the pala just forgot to switch. I also wonder why the pala drops to 30% at the very start.
I used to have people SCREAM in teamspeak over healer letting you die in a raid... Imagine with perma death... I bet youd get IRL deaththreats for letting your tank die.
really? i'm so sorry 😂 as a healer main itd usually be me yelling at them being stupid
@10:50 the undead running by also gets hit lol. Guess that's just a spot to avoid if you're running in SFK for some reason
These are the little hits of sweet schadenfreude that get me through the week. Last 2 weeks of this series have been as good as 2006 content.
For real, ever since HC popped off this has been my favorite type of Asmon content
@@ZapatosVibes Welp. Gonna die from fall damage isn't he? Yep. That's too bad.
6:00 this "healer" is a ret paladin that hasn't trained any of their resistance auras. it's a crime that he got out alive
thats how you level pally especially in HC. also you dont need resists on that boss if pulled correctly(it wasnt)
Loving these vids. It's a perfect match for Asmongold.
Finally an answer to how can you kill that which has no life
Hardcore really forces you to respect the game. All mobs can kill you if you don't take them seriously. It's the one thing that makes us semi relive Vanilla, it's great.
Yea or you might just clip through a wall
I can feel that one guy who suffered from the z-axis bug. I just lost my level 19 warrior to being attacked by a mob AFTER jumping off a tower into the water below. So f'ing pissed right now.
I dont remember which MMO had it... But instead of perma death you are just logged out for 24 hours. I think this is a happy medium where you are still pumping adrenaline when you almost die but dont quit the game after 1 or 2 deaths. It made pvp fun cuz when you kill a player you are banishing them from the game for 24 hours.
Really cool concept and negates the absurdity of insanely dumb blizzard things like the Z axis and fall through the wall deaths.
That’s a really good idea
5:00 ltierally how I died. Worst part is you can EASILY get out of the quarry to the left when you leave the cave.
I think we’re seeing a lot of players that are botting and doing the yellow route and then playing after they sing 60. We are seeing so many people that it’s mind boggling they made it that far and then they suck badly…. And it’s not just playing badly, but overall bad setups, not prepared to play HC. Those that have been in the HC scene know. It’s a dif mentality and that drives choices like profession choice and down to even how u approach questing and grinding.
Mana shield is only physical dmg in classic, so that last clip was just me screaming for him to IB the 4 poisons :p
Those elite wolves at Jin'talor, near the altar ,hit like a ton of bricks even in plate users a clothie dies in some 2 strikes of those ones.
You are killing it with this series
He just gives his take for other ppls work but I guess its a series
Mostly people getting themselves and others around them killed, but it do be a funny watch! 😁
@@MagisterMittensis he wrong tho, i mean he didnt make this compilation
17:51 Asmonwolf crying out to the moon in absolute mourning from that one haha
Omg the fist clip, the druid is luuxia, one of the best healers in the world in arena, he was 3rd at the AWC this year
"He died to Unfair Engine 1.0, the original one that allows us to hit through walls!" I am laughing so hard 😂
Also about that last mage, no asmon mana shield would not have saved him. Mana shield only absorbs physical damage in vanilla. Ice block however...
my friend and me played, I have completed alone the murlock quest, then next day I helped her with it. First she "accidentally" fell down from a clearly visible cliff into two murlocks from which one was a rate elite, then after defeating them, we pulled one but 3 came, told her to run, I run into a corner because it was the only remote place where I could go and not pull more even if they flee, she run into the water instead where it was clearly visible that there are 2 more murlocks...
how the hell she can play tank on retail if she is so clumsy and has no periferal vision! Retail is so freaking forgiving and skill ruining.
WoW needs to make a Last Man Standing mode. Make people have to sign up for the mode before the "season" starts. Divide registered players amongst various servers based on registrants. Servers goes live, and it's Permadeath. Once a week, the minimum level requirement goes up by 5. If you are under the level requirement when it goes up, you get purged from the server. Only the players who registered before it went live can play, and when they die, or don't level fast enough, they get kicked out of the server for the rest of the season. Give players account wide rewards and titles for hitting milestones in this server. Like the first to 80 gets a unique title they can use on non-HC servers, the last remaining 100 players on the server get a unique mount for their other characters, etc.
That last one was pretty horrible. Dude had iceblock and never used it.
I farmed the hell out of that area on my mage. There's a few areas that have no caster mobs but they hit pretty hard. If you're 1-2 levels above them it's a joke to farm.
I was questing in Silverpine forest yesterday leveling my first HC rogue 12 lvl, I had a breeze, no close calls. I was farming grizzlies and these werewolves and saw a dead pleayer's body, thinking like 'lol, did he just die from a bear? Kinda unlnucky tbh' and then this MOFO Son of Arugal just came from behind and annihilated me in 2 seconds I just couldn't register what happened for a sec. 10/10 HC would do it again
gotta say walking into melee of a big aoe farm pull for arcane explosion when no mob is close to dying is certainly ballsy lmao
Tanking sm armory on harod. Boas fight starts , group of elite adds spawn in his room warlock runs off , healer instant oom and boom goes the dynamite. Other players are your worst enemies.
Giga bear move to really save his own ass, the group.
A question that cme in my mind.
If you are playing classic HC as a hunter and you Pet die, do you ress it or abandone and get a new one?
That last one... omg I was just yelling "block bro u have block" omgg hahaha that hurts man
1rst clip, Paladin used BoP on druid, that was a nice play and saved the druid aswell, GJ !
I will never understand how people find this game fun, hardcore or not. I played till max level and then got so bored i quit
I was in westfall hills working on the last defias leg, on my warrior. I was kiting one mob away from two others and 3 mobs respawned ONTOP of me. So 3 new melee, plus the two melee i was kiting and a mage. I was slowed which allowed the mage to get a freeze off. 80% 30% 3% dead.
That mage and the zombies had me crying
Smart warlocks would go affliction and get the healing from corruption and siphon life, then make sure to pump the ever loving shit out of +shadow damage. I actually removed immolate from my bars. It's not worth the mana and cast time. Corruption, siphon life, curse of agony and shadow bolt/life drain if low hp.
That first druid is a r1 PvP healer. I guess that what it takes lol
I struggled to play classic WoW; HARDCORE WoW drive me insane if I ever tried.
I don't play HC... I'd only make it to level 10 before I'd die after accidently pulling a herd of bears or being swarmed by respawning murlocs. There's just no way. It takes a village to make it to 60 in HC, and when I saw a village, I mean you need like a team of 4 others who won't abandon ship on you... but let's face it, they'll let you die alone if it saves them. I mean, we all would. I can't imagine making it all the way to Naxx and dying there. And that's real easy to do, too. Naxx in classic is ridiculous. You survive all the other raids... and those are hard as hell to do normally, but without dying... and go to Naxx and get beat up.... Classic is brutal enough.
can't the warrior at 5:35 - 5:40 ish submit a ticket since he has a video clip of him glitching through the wall like that?
that wasn't a death on his end, a duel, overpull mob, bossmechanics, mob mechanics,etc.
that was a blizzard's fault death.. no?
Hardcore made me realize that rouges are always the first to flee in instantions + they usually have like the most stupid deaths in the compilations
I'm going to call them rougetards from now
You're absolutely right about not holding it against the player if it's not their fault. That irritates me so much when people wish ill will on people who make dumb mistakes and still live in most cases. I don't think that mage did anything that cost the party their lives, so why wish them death? lol. If the game kills the player, it's BS, regardless if the player was playing optimal or not.
Fun fact people may not realize, classic era servers changed it to where the max nameplate distance is 20 yards. Their is no command or anything you can do to change this that i know of
What are you smoking, that's how nameplates were in vanilla, nothings changed.
17:50 who would have guessed Asmongold is a werewolf in disguise
Asmon went thru all the 12 steps at 9:12
5:25 if that ever happens to you, press alt f4 quickly and unstuck it might save you and respamn you at nearest graveyard.
maybe, i think it would still take like 10 seconds for his character to leave the world, so im pretty sure he still would have died.
the wall glitch had me dying from spam laughter
When will mages learn vanilla arcane explosion is a death sentence. Uses too much mana, gets you hit in melee, just always the wrong call in HC vanilla overall lol
I didn't expect someone to be a victim to die in Sunken Temple by stepping into a hole to its doom which never heard of it.
5:39 If there's ever a reason for a GM to revive a hardcore player. This is it. I'd be so fucking irrationally pissed off for like a week minimum. I'd honestly get pissed every time I thought about it. I've experienced shit like this. It's the worst feeling imaginable.
The druid at the beginning is a top % pvp player
Get hit through wall and die? Naaaaw!
Get through wall and die falling? Yuuuus!
I'd hope the guy who fell through the floor is/was able to appeal that shit. Same thing with the mage and the attacks going through the wall. Bug deaths like that should absolutely be allowed to restore the character. It's not like they were overconfident or did something stupid. I hate how so many on the forums after I searched to see if there is an appeals process said essentially 'git gud and do agane' and you KNOW they'll be the ones who scream the loudest when it happens to them.
The only time I ever died 1-60 in vanilla back in 2006 was from BGs or group wipes. All my solo questing was fine (rogue vanish) so I reckon I would safe it to 60 with quests lol
That warrior must have been floored
I know in the title it says "Worse."
So in terms of us viewers I do believe that means - Better/Funnier.
16:41 Streamer: "Je vais mourriiiir" (I'm gonna diiiie) - Asmongold: -That's right =D
8:08 Every man for himself. You fucked it up for your healer, got a man killed? Time to flee. There was likely no winning in that situation with an already uncoordinated team.
12:35 haven't laughed so hard in a long time
i've never played warcraft before but this was worth watching. i now know how my gf feels when i show her stuff in osrs, because i am pretty clueless of what's going on in the clips.
Hardcore really gives that D&D feel for me. You lose your character, you’re done. That’s a wrap. Really gives you a whole new respect for what you do.
Not neccessary to call people special or clowns. It's good to see new players in the game and there are thousands of small facts you will learn the hard way. That's what makes classic so good. A real game with a real challenge.
15:30 clicking fade wtf
Baron Aura goes 30yards, mage spells and pala aura also 30 yards so they dont make a fail here, hunter rage 35 yards. where is the problem? 0:55
5:42 never happens to me in like 20 years WOW
You know what kills the most ? DC, And when you relog you get 50 min que
Since eu release I think I am closing 20k hours played and I never fell off the map the way the warrior did in sunken temple. Like WTF
What is the addon that pops his hp and how he's about to die at 06:05?
I understand the no changes for classic. But classic wasn't designed for a hardcore play through. Blizz should fix stuff accordingly, just for hardcore imo.
The falling off maps and hits through walls, for example.
Just want to point out that the rogue is not me!
Jammys video the healer paladin could use pillar as line of sight to interrupt shadow burn too
At the same time, the tank was getting kind of low and he was busy keeping the group up.
But having rogues who suck, he better had used LoS.
Had even been worth a bubble to avoid the mana burn. That was crazy. 50% of his total hp and of his total mana gone.
16:10 he isnt ratting out the other one told him to bail
Notice most of these deaths are to mobs the same level or higher than the players dying?
It's hardcore, why risk resists/misses?
i love hardcore but i be too high to be playing that shit i accidentally strafe jumped and fell into the rage fire chasm lava and died instantly
Mana Shield does not work for poisons, thats what killed the guy in the last clip.
that Wando guy is in my guild and this is the 2nd time i see him in one of these disaster clips. duly noted. not grouping with him.
This is what happens when you have a hundred thousand people telling Blizzard not to change a damn thing about Vanilla when making Classic, btw. The bugs existed twenty years ago, were fixed as a part of future content. People wanted no future content, so they got no bug fixes.
@5:30 smooth pulls rip!
I mean it's decades old at this point .... but the BS of mobs being able to shoot through walls, floors, ceilings, hills, rocks ....... FFS, SMH. LMAO.
1:47 if he was really good, why would he pull the boss closer to the healer, who didn't run closer to the boss?
2:07 Brain dead take as it so often is. You can literally see the paladin all the way in the back casting healing spells....
Z-axis hits are indeed a strange old bug but its not realy new and you should know about it if you play classic and plan around it, Alot of the deaths to it are completly avoidable if they played with that in mind. and compared to the new "windfury" bug they introduced with vanila classic id say Z-axis ranks lower in things that need to be fixed.
yo that wall clip death in ST is unreal
Can someone tell me the Song, Asmongold is listening to in the first clip? I think its a BFA Theme. But i cant find it :(
I'm so on board with Asmon's enjoying the sight of mages dying from AOE farm. As a lifelong melee enjoyer, it's way too satisfying to see the cheese classes get brought down a peg.
17:51 Asmon turns into a worgen.
The z-axis thing is still prevalent in Dragonflight, so I doubt they can fix it.