So it could be that Fontaine stumbling across what they think I'd an energy source is actually the forbidden knowledge of the hidden elements? Could that be the sin that all Fontaine is guilty of to the point that they're apparently fated to be dissolved until the Archon is the only one left?
@@Sacrationwell if we follow the rules of the game, it's always be "O" at the end of the element: DendrO CryO PyrO AnemO HydrO ElectrO GeO Maybe lightO and AbyssO 😂
I like the hypothesis thay traveler isn't actually gaining new elements with the statues, but regaining their old power, in segments. That being the power of light. Or imaginary, if you prefer. If you were to combine all the wavelengths of light that represent each element, you'd get the color white, like light. So one of the missing elements is actually just every element combined into one. The other, abyss, i can suppose would be the reverse of that. How that works, i really don't know.
this is actually semi-confirmed in the opening cutscene of the game. whenever the traveler gets a new element, their outfit syncs to that element’s corresponding color (for example, aether’s torso piece and lumine’s cape pieces), and in the opening scene, these pieces are white, as if to signal a type of “light element”! it’s not just the opening as well, it’s at the very beginning before you get anemo and whenever you see your twin in-game, they have that light element
It's not hypothesis. It's a fact that was obvious the moment you stepped on Liyue and got geo element. And like white that is all colors, his original power was al the elements. That was obvious when Liyue was new, weird that you just noticed. And was made even clearer when we met our sibling.
A couple things to note is that Hoyoverse Confirmed that Genshin and the Honkai universe “Honkaiverse” are connected as the Genshin world is a leaf on the imaginary tree like hi3 and hsr. Also they did confirm that Dainsleif would be playable in the future.
@@stathisconstantinouthey confirm that ggz, hi3, gi and hsr are all world in the honkai universe, and the img tree can host infinite amount of real universes and bubble universes
Exactly. I'm not so sure Teyvat/Genshin's universe is on a leaf, since it doesn't seem to act like you would expect if they are a leaf. I'm more inclined (based on the weird time stuff) to think that genshin is a bubble universe, propped up by Irminsul acting like a substitute for a world tree keeping the world together. Maybe some weird kind of ether anchor?
@@tobyharris4777 I've read a chinese fanfic which i dont know if its AU or just made up but it said the Genshin Universe is a leaf thats fallen from the tree
I don’t know why it’s not well known, but actually Dainsleif is confirmed to become playable in the future (they confirmed it in a Chinese livestream before the release of the game). His element is also present, but it’s an unknown symbol (the one you showed).
the reason is not so well-known this fact is cause... it was in a chinese stream. hoyoverse foreign fan base (as a whole, even counting HI3, GI, HSR, GGZ, ETC.) not understanding chinese makes so a lot of facts and issues happens in general. for example people think the honkai verse is a multiverse, but no, is a universe under a many-worlds interpretation theory, making so GI, HSR, HI3, etc. are in the same universe but thousands of millions of light years away in different planets of each other. or is a lower scale, people not knowing Dainsleif will be playable confirmed
@@luissaumeth8000 I didn't play honkai a lot, but I did hear the multiverse thing and had no idea it wasn't true. Is it a mistranslation in the game or is it an information they only shared in Chinese?
@@luissaumeth8000no? How the fuck is honkai star rail in the same universe as honkai Impact? That would make no sense. Look at Welt's story and come back. They're all worlds that are part of the imaginary tree for sure. But that's a multiverse
10:18 You are 100% correct, the animators did not have to add this detail but they did. Genshin animators are extremely passionate about the game. I wish I could say the same about some of the other branches.
@@kiriekurashiki1028 Because the devs have long since stated in a GDC panel that Honkai Impact 3rd, Genshin Impact, and Honkai Star Rail do have have story and mechanics interwoven with each other, its just Impact 3rd and Star Rail are much more obvious with it with Welt being directly from HI3rd, Bronya and Seele having the same exact names as their counterparts, as well as some Signets like Yanqing and Kafka being upgraded to playable characters, etc. etc. while with Genshin its moreso some characters and archons are equivalents to others, Heavenly Principles with Kiana, Venti with Wendy, Ei and Makoto with Raiden Mei and Doctor Mei, (this is a bit of a joke but Scaramouche with Kevin and Dr. Mei's kid, Adam), Theresa with Nahida, Alhaitham with Su, Furina with Seele (dual personalities with different clothes, same hairstyle just Furina's is more well kept but this is in line with Star Rail Seele having messier hair than HI3rd Seeles but having the same hairstyle, having to deal with an "sea" and "drowning" in it.), Navia with Durandal, and with future characters: Murata/Pyro Archon with Himeko Murata, Tsaritsa/Cryo Archon at this point is very obviously going to be a Bronya as well. Yes Zhongli is a weird outlier to this, though honestly you could possibly make an argument his personality is based on Welt's and his design is like an older, more mature Adam from APHO. Otherwise, the only story based connection we have right now is that Otto when he was alive and was looking into different previous era projects witnessed Dvalin through a screen (probably via Project Valuka info with Honkai's Sumeru which yes, Sumeru sharing the name and the Irminsul Tree may have some relations to that). As well as the age old theory that Project Ark with Griseo led to Teyvat's creation which may be possible with her making paintings based on some people she remembers hence similarities between characters and such, even if some are moreso based on PE versions rather than the CE versions of HI3rd characters.
Hoyoverse actually confirmed during a Bilibili livestream on September 27, 2020 that Dainsleif will become playable! And obviously he doesn’t have any vision we know of so abyssal power will eventually become playable
or like a color prism all colors of rainbow having white = light white= all colors, lack of colors = black = void or in actual lingual terminology abyss= depths of sea where light can't reach (yes that's the greek definition of abyss, the origin of the word, it does NOT mean bottomless pit.)
I wonder if the relation between Imaginary and Quantum is inspired by the fact that a wave function has no real physical meaning and contains the imaginary unit but turns into a real probability when you square it? Probably not.
Light(Celestial), Abyss(Abyssal), and Omni(the combination of all elements which transcenders like the traveler possesses) . So 3 elements to be exact. Dainsleif and Gold vision would fall into one of these categories.
In all seriousness, this is one of the best lore videos regarding this game I have seen in a while. I unironically was able to follow all the information and it was all very intriguing and widened my view of the scope of Genshin’s lore (as well as real-world mythology in the process)
@@supayambaek Her likes and dislike/prefrences for characters somethimes influence her theories too much. In the 4.0 lore recap she just said Childe only had a cameo, disregarding the fact that Childe, the whale he saw, and his master will have some very important parts to play in the Fontaine AQ.
Wouldn't this explain why the MC is developing all the elements of Teyvat? To ultimately achieve their forsaken power of Light as was suggested during that same Dainsleif Story Quest when it showed that our sibling apparently has her original powers back? Not sure but when you think about it the MC is actually going to be much stronger when his original Power is restored and will be refracted through all the elements he's achieved during his journey, like light turned into a rainbow, lol. His Sister even wielded her original sword!!! These two "Forces" Light and Darkness isn't considered elements but is a 'Source' of all the elements, we also got a taste of the Light Power during one of the quests a year or so back when we had to collect these type of "Light" sigils remember?
I would be very disappointed if the MC is the only one to use Light and if it would be used by combining all Elements to get it. It throws so much potential in the garbage. Other characters, enemies, locations, etc. thrown out just so 1 character gets to use it. But what if Light Traveler isn't balanced right? If Dendro Traveler is still better it becomes a waste. Unless you force the player to use him due to puzzles and such. That could disappoint players even more.
@@joesunday199 i disagree with your first part, i believe the Traveler should be the one of maybe the very few characters that use the power of the light. a big reason for this is it should be something they are uniquely able to do to give them a reason to truly exist outside of story and in gameplay. i mean they are literally surpassed in every one of their obtained elements by a gigantic degree and it WILL happen for pyro and cryo. if too many characters are made using the light element then it ruins and overshadows the Traveler's existence in gameplay and the build up to this apparent huge spike in power. i also believe they will probably finally be the character they're meant to be lore wise inside their gameplay. i really want the Traveler to actually feel powerful and meta changing for once. i agree that it would suck if he was weak as all hell as light Traveler but honestly i do believe they are intentionally making them weak until this happens to really feel like they've grown in power so i doubt that they would make him weak in any aspect. gacha games do tent to up rarity of characters in certain occasions and i bet Hoyo is gonna do that with the Light Traveler. they might be truly the first "6*" character that shakes up the meta and rightfully so. if they don't then ig great job Hoyo for all the buildup for absolutely nothing. enemies making use of the light would be fine, however, simply on the fact that it wouldn't hurt lore wise nor would it impede on the specialness of what the Traveler is supposedly meant to be. all im saying is, let's let the Traveler have something for once, please.
@@MOTH-Machine First of all; WALL of Text! We aren't getting a "6*" character. Also, since Traveler is free (and default) They wouldn't make any money on Light as an Element if only they have it. Something else you'd need to have is Light based enemies (like Light Slimes). That way you get a lot of mileage out of the newly added Element. But, if the only one that uses Light is the Traveler; There isn't going to be much that can create Light Reactions. Maybe puzzles could. What Hoyo could do is treat the (Light) Traveler as an Archon of sorts. Each Archon has been made to be the best of their respective Elements. Thus, the Light Traveler could act sort of as one. Being the best (meta) Light Vision holder. Then, introduce other characters that receive the Element of Light. It could even be apart of the story. Like, Aether/Lumin search for those without Visions that earn the Light Vision. Then, they get their Banners and.... profit. 😁
While this is not confirmed i strongly believe that the traveller will get a buff with the new elements hes the MC after all.His going to get better for sure not only exploration wise but competitively wise too, and i believe there are many who highly anticipate that since its the only charachter who can switch elements.
Can't believe you mentioned all those physicists but not Dirac, the guy who saved my ass by making all quantum mechanics calculation use brackets and simplify all calculations that I do a lot
Pneuma and Ousia are greek words Pneuma/Pnefma (correct pronunciation) = spirit in greek Ousia/ooseea = substance in greek As a greek, the inclusion of many mythologies and this whole confusing story is quite fascinating and making me enjoy the game even more
As a chemistry and someone that had classes of quantum chemistry and some quantum physics I can say this is one of the best and most pedagogical explanations I have seen in a youtube video. Nice job dude 👍
Indeed. They always do that progressivelly. Create an elemental system, gradually release characters that defy it a lil bit then introduce dual elements and then the rarest light/dark
The goodhood assencion is 100% in development. -crown description and number -15 level of talents -level 90 as max is weird -also in lore its literally said that normal people can become gods ....literally everything Just waits for this mechanic
@@ziebus904and don't forget that "But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend" is literally in the character information of the traveler since day 1
It's hoyoverse. There's Quantum, Imaginary, Psychic, Mecha, Imaginary, etc. Nothing is black n white when it comes to Hoyo. I'd love to see Genshins version of Quantum!
this was so unhinged in all the best ways possible 😹 I really loved this, it was like listening to myself connect the dots on a subject as an observer, but the observer isn't confused by the connections for once 😅
I like these topics. That said, I think Hoyoverse does a better job in creating a hard "science magic" or "quantum-spiritual" system for it's titles than others like the MCU, which became random soft-magic trash after Endgame. I also played Honkai for years, and you can see that despite the technobabble , it's well-written and well-thought of techno-babble. I have a theory that the reason why Hoyoverse is keeping consistency in their quantum-spiritual/technomaguc systems is because they will have a grand crossover game that will take place across the whole of Quantum-Imaginary Space and the different worlds (games) that it holds, something like what Capcom has done or Dissidia but with a grander attempt.
Your video has the vital information and is key to helping me and certainly many others to under the World Building mechanics and structure of Genshin and other games! THANK You so much!
Late but, I think it would be interesting if one of the new "elements" is the True damage mechanic. The type of damage that The Shogun slash uses to insta-kill or Okami in Sumeru with the Spirit Bomb look-a-like.
The abyss twin and dainsleif directly use abyssal power in cut scenes, so far we havent seen anyone wielding "light" yet but like many say when the traveller gains all the elements possibly light will follow automatically. If however after visiting sneznaya we may visit khaenriah, we may gain abyssal power first before we get light. As far as abyssal powers go, opening PORTALS seems to be one abyssal power theme. The hounds created by accident by gold can breach worlds, we even have a "antibody" of elynas thats called a "breacher". It's interesting how the breachers can use geo and dendro but not the 4 other primary elements. Lectors also can use the 4 primary elements but not geo, dendro or anemo. Theres something core to the overarching story about that.
In many other gacha there is usually a 'light' and 'dark' faction. the 'light' faction can replace any other faction, and the 'dark' faction usually has incremental effects depending on how many of them you have in your team.
I had a problem with comprehending the information so I slowed down the video to 0.75, it didn't help much - but it was great, I hope to see more content like this on this channel ❤️
I "love" how people forget that Hoyo is Chinese... And in Chinese cosmology there are eight elements... Seven of which can be easily related to the seven elements of Teyvat, while the eight one is just called "Heaven".
genshin isn’t entirely based on chinese myths and cosmology though?? there are plenty of christian and gnostic lore references as well? also, it’s been hinted at tons of times that there’s gonna be 9 elements at some point.
@@sourfar from what I heard, much of Gnostic references were added in English translation for the hell of it. But some are not. And every country has some references to mythology of its real-world prototype. This is most obvious in Enkanomiya, since it's based on Ancient Greece, and Greek mythology is very well-known.
@@kotarouinugami1745 Exactly why I have a problem when ppl bring up Aether / Lumine's name as "Aether is a greek god" etc. Their og chinese names are so not related
@@Quon It's interesting that Aether and Lumine have a whole lot of different names in different translations, all of them relating to sky and light. For example, in Japanese they are Sora and Hikaru. I don't think anybody else in the game is like that.
Here is a theory that I have had for some time now and I will share it with you. That one of the missing elements has been present in the game since the very beginning. And it’s one that the traveler has had since we first started playing as them. This also links in with the TCG mini game. And that is the traveler has the Omni element. Just like in TCG the Omni element can copy any other element which is why he can gain the element of what ever statue of the seven he/she touches. And if you look back at the opening of the game when you first start playing there are parts of the traveler’s outfit that are growing white but that changes the your character first touches a statue of the seven gaining that element for the first time. This is just my theory about this.
The traveller has white glow at start bcz they haven't touched any of the statues meaning no god has recognised them yet, so they have no elemental control, there is no such thing as omni element it is just an imaginary element to represent an outcome. Traveller is probably a creature of that nature, someone who can adapt.
I disagree with the omni element being traveler’s. If it’s anyone’s it’s Paimon’s; the omni symbol can be seen on Paimon’s design and they were the one who taught the traveler about gaining elemental powers through the statue despite no one else knowing of such a thing happening. Even the archons are confused about it; the omni element is Paimon’s. The traveller’s element is those yellow beams of light at the start which they used to enhance their abilities (flying, sword, etc). We know that this isn’t the abyss element either. Traveler has their own power.
@@joesunday199 Clearly you don’t know about the symbol. It’s a real symbol called the triquetra. The triquetra symbolizes interconnectedness and the concept of threefold unity, whether representing the Holy Trinity, the cycles of life, or the interconnectedness of body, mind, and spirit. Just because mora has it too doesn’t mean the symbol isn’t important.
The only way u could integrate Genshin into the Hoyoverse is to allow the equivalent of Quantum and Imaginary elements to exist because these two elements are fundamental to the lore of the universe.
Haha I knew that taking all of those chemistry and physics classes would be useful somehow! In all seriousness, this video was so well made with all of the research and care that you put into it! Can’t wait to come back to this video to see what was right!
Love how much we learn about life and the universe from you! Also so thoroughly enjoy the exploration of the literary, philosophical, and theological concepts as well (that thread of connections culminating in 27:37 is unreal!). Wonderfully presented, so intriguing and thoughtful!
The most important information that i got from this video is that me saving up for dain is in fact not an early sign of schizofrenia and that i should continue doing so. Thank you mister My Name for Now, very cool video
This dude's video feels like the manifestation of my thoughts trying to explain how hoyoverse operates in terms of lore. I very mich enjoyed it. The editing is funny too.
since you talked about how Imaginary and Quantum are elements that within themselves contain all other elements I'm surprised there was no passing comment of how the in-game card game has an additional element called "Omni" that uses the triquetra, a logo plastered all over genshin in mysterious places with an unknown affiliation.
I'm okay with just Abyss being introduced as a playable element. It doesn't have to mix with any other element and be akin to Physical Damage.... but just... Magical Damage.
Didn’t Mihoyo literally promise that Dainsleif would be a playable character in the future? Yes, he has abyssal void power. And the main character will have their gold sword (they and their sibling each wielded one such sword at the beginning of the game), which contains the powers of all the elements combined, but that doesn’t make them a new character when they get it. And it’s more of a philosophical debate whether this gold energy is a new element, or just simply is the combination of the other basic elements and remains unnamed.
bro i've just opened this video to chill after a day spent studing rational mechanics, i was't expecting to find a lesson on quantum mechanics... I meen i couldn't end the video because my brain was already fried at half of it, but for sure this will be my favourite one from now on.
the way the sea of quanta is described and how the abyss breaks the elements down to their original form makes me think of the flood in fontain and how the poeple desolve into water, into their original forms
16:16 irminsul doesn't absorbs chaos/abyssal powers Only elemental energy Abyssal powers would just corrupt and harm irminsul as we saw in archon quest
There are actually two trees.. The one that Sustainer controls, the one that Nahida controls, previously controlled by Phanes and Istaroth, and Rukkhadevata respectively..
@@surreabel bro what 😭 There arent 2 irminsul trees Yes domain trees are refered as irminsul and are connected to main irminsul tree Also nahida doesnt fully control irminsul she just has access to some of its functions
@@surreabel and lorecrafter was telling an example of imaginary tree that is from another game honkai impact 3 And its functionality is much different compared to irminsul
@@HeavenlyPrinciples12 I am referring to the tree they'll probably show later in the game.. Anyway it's just a hunch of mine.. Could be wrong.. Because in my theory, Phanes was replaced by Sustainer/Second Who Came and Chronos by Kairos, because of the changing of the tree, which was the cause of the first Samsara.. But both Sustainer and Kairos still exist as Heavenly Principles and Istaroth.. which means they weren't replaced.. Then there must be another lesser tree with similar power/functions whose Avatar could be someone called "something" who is a reincarnation of Eon/Time within the Samsara, this " something" loses its name, identity, memory, etc each time the cataclysm repeats and most recently it was known as Rukkhadevata and Nahida..
I absolutely loved this Video! One because of the in my pov very sound arguments but also how you're referencing Honkai as well as giving a brief summary of quantum physics. :D I personally believe that Teyvat is part of the Honkai universe :D
they never said Dendro is the last element. they said it is the last of the 7 elements OF TEYVAT. we know that teyvat is just a chapter , we will go beyond after that probably and we will be free of the 7 elements/nations rule.
this is why I'm so glad I didn't skip the genshin story. It's very well written and interesting and gives room to all of this you talk about, it was very interesting to hear all these theories! I also think we will get more elements in the future, hoyoverse needs to get all the money they want from us lmao.
Sometimes I think about how Hoyoverse is also a huge supporter for scientific research, including nuclear fusion. The money they make from these games probably fuels so much research and scientifically driven facilities. Their dedication and interest to produce such deep lore and display their dedicated observance of scientific, historical, and religious theories and lore through their games is so much fun to be a part of! Its like theyre breaking down real-life for us in the form of a game that is digestible and interesting. This is my favorite part of the game as an information gremlin lol Other than this factor, Im obsessed with the music because the works that Yu-Peng Chen create are that of a musical prodigy. In my eyes, he revolutionizes experimental music in so many ways.
@@makijahphillips1597 Indeed u can be easily immersed in the lore and the music with the exploration adds up to that experience its a unique game.Well thought out.
If Quantum and Imaginary do indeed get added in some way, I could see Pierro and Dainsleif both being Quantum, whereas Columbina, if she has ties to Celestia given her Angelic theming, is definitely gonna be Imaginary, I definitely look forward to more of this.
Me Theories: "Cosmo" will be the eights element, which will be re-discovered as the element of Khaenri'ah's forgotten archon. This is pretty much the dark purple stuff we see in relation to the abyss all the time. I call it "Cosmo" because all elements end in "o", and also because in my broader lore speculation "the abyss" is synonymous with outer space, with the abyss order being aliens. Also Khaenri'ah was a space faring nation, or was aspiring to be, or maybe even succeeded in the end. The ninth and last element will be "Primo", the primordial, all-encompassing element. This will be when MHY finally breaks the games systems wide open and makes characters that use multiple elements in some way or another. Like what the traveler is already doing.
@@ziebus904 yeah, khaenriah is literally described as a “nation without a god” not because it’s god died or was forgotten, but because it literally started without a god, it’s entire purpose was to be a safe haven for everyone who didn’t want to seek shelter with the gods instead, it could have something to do with the abyss twin being revealed to be the prince/princess of khaenriah rather than the prince/princess of the abyss like we all thought they were; instead of a god there could have been some type of monarch with a forgotten element
Lets be honest: its like all rpg games; you have "basic elements" and then two other elements that are 'rarer' (usually light and darkness) and more expensive to get. Im guessing Dark/light characters will have their own banner, and only one character will be featured at a time and the pity sistem will be completely different (with different I mean harder to get the featured 5* star)
Honestly I think there will be power creep happening to force people into getting these new characters, the same we saw with Dendro and now with Pneuma & Ousia Fontaine but they won't increase the current pity or make it harder because at the end of the day if your product is too expensive people won't buy it.
They will probably be 6 star characters with featured 5 stars and is only available once every 1and a half years and will have a hard pity of about 200 pulls with 5 stars being guaranteed every 80. I could also see them being very broken that if they are included in the party you would be allowed to have 5 characters instead of 4 but with the twist that you could only put 1 (either light/dark) to every team.
@@ScaryYokai Personally, I wouldnt say dendro is necessarily 'power creep', the old national teams still rock the abyss and there is no dendro character that overpowers what we had (Yelan, C2 Raiden....). The reactions, however, were the peak of the introduction of dendro. I heard that some Fountaine enemies are weaker against Pneuma or Ousia, we can only expect that the abyss will be filled with such enemies to trick you into pulling for foutaine characters. We can also expect the following abyss effect to have something to do with mono-teams, considering we already know Liney shines best at mono-pyro teams.
I like the idea of Light and Darkness being added. But, not like in the video. There s also a problem with adding another Light character or Darkness character. Explaining how anyone else could even get these Elements. Say you have a character from Inazuma; How would they get Darkness? Neither Light nor Darkness have Visions. Then there's the Elemental Reaction problem. What about a Nation humans can live in that would represent these Elements. I would love to have a discussion on these topics but rarely do fans engage.
There is at least one other unknown element confirmed to be coming - Whatever element Dain uses. He's been confirmed to be playable, but his element isn't any of the current 7, at least if the element writing is anything to go by.
If adding new elements I would call for MAGNET and ACOUSTICS for sure aside from QUANTUM - really interesting and powerful elements that really are missing in the Genshin. also correction - Quantum mechanics is NOT truth of Universe since we still not know if Universe exists at all, at least as we perceive it. Quantum mechanics is just the explanation of existence on Earth and around Earth (accessible to us areas) on a core scale level. And about Light/Datk theory of yours I DON'T AGREE. Why ? 1st - simply because in Chinese and Asian philosophies Light/Dark aren;t anticipated and described the same way as in European or American point of view. Genshin is primarly don't forget - made by Asians so I don't think they will use other understanding and concepts when creating the core of lore. So having such oversimplifications of Light/Dark from our western point of view in Genshin as you described is - bound to failure and false info. as for number 9 - you jave it plenty complex in Chinese mythology and philosophy too. Not only in Norse mythology. also 7, 5 and 8 - especially in Chinese ancient game of Qi. in martial arts in ancient books, etc. Looking only from Western point of view Genshin lore - it can be a big trap. Not to mention that quantum thinking already existed in ancient civilization's thoughts, some of which you can see in Indian and Chinese ancient texts. At the end you added too much conspiracy and even Jerusalem lol which isn't a case sure. The answer is more simple I think, you need just to know a bit of Asian philosophy history, science and mythology sure for including it into processing. I won;t thou speculate too much, it isn't worth. We will see gradually with the game proceedings of the lore~
Game has shown Dainsleif to use element of darkness, and so did Skirk, and the other is element of light that is what we see at start when twins fight the Sustainer, that uses both light and dark element. So we get the "missing" 2 elements in the first cutscene of the game.
OH GOD... all my college chemistry & physical knowledge plus church and my obsession with mythology all mashed together while watching this video and I could only keep repeating "OH GOD" through it all.
Well the possibility of only having 7 elements and still making those characters playable is high if they pull a scaramouche on us and swap their elemental powers by giving them visions before they get a release.
There was an event in enkanomiya where there is an item called Light Realm Sigil that is similar to the elemental sigils in each region. That should be enough proof/hint.
one thing i would like to add that i noticed playing today: in enkanomiya, and the abyss lecters, and only in those, there is a mechanic where enemy attacks drain your elemental burst charge, i think that aligns with your theory...
The MOMENT you said you were about to change the names of the elements, I just knew where you were going and it got a good chuckle out of me, because those two elements are basically a guarantee to be added at some point. I've annoyed some friends by referring to light and dark in the context of Genshin as Quantum and imaginary as well in the past, heh.
Hoyoverse have already connected everything and has played with the idea of a multiverse. Honkai 3 characters have already crossed over canonically into Honkai Star Rail. One of the early hints of Genshin Impact was revealed through Honkai 3.
Ohhh good my name for now video!!! Lets goo!!! Ya i thought light an dark elements in fontaine are leading to light an dark element type characters. An this is how they start introducing that. Great minds 😌 👌 Have good day bud 😊 You are soooo underrated bro. Soo underrated as a genshin content creator. Your really good at it 👏 👌 👍
The problem with that is those aren't "Elements" but just "Energies". Any Vision holder (at least those from Fontaine) can use those Energies as well as their own Element. So, the Energies would be in a lesser category than the Elements.
@joesunday199 yes mohoyo is introducing the mechanics before bringing in the actual characters. Just Like they do with everything else. Even if it's with characters of known elements, a introduction of some dark an light elements in game mechanics, is still a introduction. Which later on will lead to playable light an dark type characters. When though I don't know. But I do know, they will be in the game at some point. In a way we already have light based in the form of mc. So you see we've had a light element based playable character since the game started. More will come. In time. What's thr old saying 🤔 " if you build it they will come". Let mohoyo cook. They building something huge. An if new element hype from the past "dendro" is anything to go off of. I believe mohoy lo knows how excited we get an how much money we spend, an hoe ok we are with other 5 stars not being ran as much, when . . . A new element is introduced into the game. It's bound to happen.
You can add Jesus (in gnostic mythology) literally being the snake that told Eve to eat that forbidden knowledge fruit to the schizo-pile of references at the end of the video :D Juxtaposition between gnostic mythology and the "mainstream" christian one is overall a topic barely talked about in these circles, I think that's a shame, a lot of things in the game make more sense when seen in that context. They have a lot of viewpoints that are directly opposed to each other, leading to the "kill them all, let God sort them out" treatment that gnostics usually got historically. Saying that God is Satan and Jesus is a different archetype of Satan opposed to the previous Satan is a bad way to make friends in medieval Europe.
Thanks, now I can finally pass my quantum mechanics class in university! I've been looking for a Genshin Impact video to explain it for such a long one and yours is by far the best one!
Another physics-related observation about the elements is that if you mix the colors of the rainbow physically (i.e. take 7 crayons and mix them on a piece of paper) you'll get black. If you mix them optically (spin a color wheel really fast) you'll get white. I don't know whether that implies that chaos is more 'material', while light, which indeed has no mass to speak of, is 'idealistic' or smth. And then there is this constant theme of flipping sides. What was up goes down, what was evil becomes good (archons having demon names, our twin siding with the abyss). It's like the whole world is just a chess party (also prominently featured in Genshin), where the two sides can be flipped in just one move of the board, are morally neutral, and equal in every way exept that it's always the 'light' who starts the game. SO MANY THEMES AND SYMBOLS GENSHIN FFS CHILL PICK ONE
In the beginning of the game, the travelers have a white light on their outfits. Take it easy over powered by the unknown god that is black. Now, if you break this down to colors, black is the absorption of everything white is a reflection of everything. It’s pretty obvious as to why the travelers lost It also goes on to explain why when you meet your sibling for the first time their responses when you reach the end of your journey, you will understand. Celestia is the enemy and it’s not until they absorb all seven elements that they really have an understanding. It’s why when they absorb the Hydro element That now they hear voices it’s not just the fact that everything is there and everything is in the water and etc.. It’s now that they have absorbed more than half of the original elements. Things are starting to change. But the comparisons don’t stop there in one of the beginning, story quest, you run to find ancient boar meat. And in the process you find a newly defrosted Olaf. Who was from 500 years ago encased in a. “ special kind of ice.” March was found floating in space from an unknown planet also encased in a special kind of ice. She mentions that she doesn’t know how long she was there could’ve been hundreds of years but she remembers nothing previously. Neither does Olaff. Paimon it’s from the abyss to leave the trailer down the path. She wants him to go down. March is from teyvat and the cryo archon is probably one of the head people of the abyss and is fighting against Celestia, and the only way to do that is to get the gnosis of all of the elements. Because then they are the environment of everything that’m celestia is not.
Such incorrect grammar intro. It's all vsauce's fault using incorrect grammar and people copying him. Anyway makes sense, 9 elements, 9 realms, 9 realms of yggdrasil, irminsul (in celtic), Khaenri'ah Nordic names. As of the symbols, you exaggerate cuz it just says eclipse. also as of sea of quanta and abyss, think a bit, what is abyss? the definition of its origin language, not the incorrect English definition since English only butchers languages saying that abyss means bottomless pit. Abyss means only one thing and is the deep sea. Deep enough where the light doesn't reach. That's the one and only definition of abyss. Also seriously stop making videos if you think quantum mechanics is a field of chemistry when it's a field of physics. Also as of the elements, the mc names are both light. Lumine in Latin, that is mispronounced, and Aether in Greek, that is also mispronounced.
8:07 All the people hating on Genshin should watch this video. I've learned so much about various topics via this game... Philosophy, literature, mythology and religions, physics, quantum physics... Like... Not everybody plays zhis game for boobs and pretty faces... In fact, it was not really made with the intention of to be played for that... Hence the no skip dialogue button and the lore hiding in item descriptions.... But until now it was all sorta-kinda... Now, I legit get a refresher of highschool physics class, lol 😂😂😂
dude actually put in 6-7 minute section in his genshin video explaining quantum mechanics. This has the same vibes as that "SM64 - Watch for Rolling Rocks - 0.5x A Presses" video when a guy explaining a SM64 speed run challenge about doing as few jumps as possible, suddenly says "We must now talk about parallel universes."
Nice theory work! I just want to say one thing for 12:08, don't insult Yoga and the concept of Chakras which has Vedic origin from ancient India. I understand calling pseudo spiritual gurus that bullshit people by using these concepts falsely but that does not make it okay to insult Yoga in itself.
Quantum Mechanics is not a Field of Chemestry, it's a Field of Physics... Actually, Chemestry (Named cuz of Alchemy) is also a Field of Physics, which should be renamed to "Molecular Reactive Physics" instead of Chemestry #ChangeMyMind
11:50 - There is more IQ in this picture alone than all of the 980 million Teenagers using TikTok combined.
Correction, any single individual in that photo has more IQ than all of the teenagers on TikTok combined.
Including Nahida@@HuTaoIsBestGirl
It does not take much to be smarter than your average TikTok user. Certain Lizard species already meet the criteria.
Are there even 980 m teenagers alive in the world right now?
Unless you are counting adults who have not grown up😅
@@ReverseElectro well she is supposed to be the goddess of wisdom so probably is smarter than them as well if she was real :D
This must be how King Deshret’s people must have felt when he unleashed forbidden knowledge on them.
lol
Lmao
So true
I see why nahida helped get rid of it all
ijbol
Pneuma ousia is gonna get further developed and we will slowly be introduced as « light » and « abyss » for sure
More like omni and abyss
So it could be that Fontaine stumbling across what they think I'd an energy source is actually the forbidden knowledge of the hidden elements? Could that be the sin that all Fontaine is guilty of to the point that they're apparently fated to be dissolved until the Archon is the only one left?
@@pipedream2556probably, considering how Celestia really doesn’t like people learning the truth about Teyvat
@@Sacrationwell if we follow the rules of the game, it's always be "O" at the end of the element:
DendrO
CryO
PyrO
AnemO
HydrO
ElectrO
GeO
Maybe lightO and AbyssO 😂
it'll probably be imaginary and quantum tbh (assuming it won't change because it is the same in star rail)
I like the hypothesis thay traveler isn't actually gaining new elements with the statues, but regaining their old power, in segments. That being the power of light. Or imaginary, if you prefer. If you were to combine all the wavelengths of light that represent each element, you'd get the color white, like light. So one of the missing elements is actually just every element combined into one. The other, abyss, i can suppose would be the reverse of that. How that works, i really don't know.
this is actually semi-confirmed in the opening cutscene of the game. whenever the traveler gets a new element, their outfit syncs to that element’s corresponding color (for example, aether’s torso piece and lumine’s cape pieces), and in the opening scene, these pieces are white, as if to signal a type of “light element”! it’s not just the opening as well, it’s at the very beginning before you get anemo and whenever you see your twin in-game, they have that light element
You get white by division but black when multiplied. Like light and pigments...
If this true then probably once the genshin release the pryo and cryo archon the ending of genshin is near
It's not hypothesis. It's a fact that was obvious the moment you stepped on Liyue and got geo element. And like white that is all colors, his original power was al the elements. That was obvious when Liyue was new, weird that you just noticed. And was made even clearer when we met our sibling.
@@ejokurirulezz It's not really fact until we see it happening. Until then it's just a very solid hypothesis.
A couple things to note is that Hoyoverse Confirmed that Genshin and the Honkai universe “Honkaiverse” are connected as the Genshin world is a leaf on the imaginary tree like hi3 and hsr. Also they did confirm that Dainsleif would be playable in the future.
True
Did they confirm that the genshin world is a leaf on the tree?
@@stathisconstantinouthey confirm that ggz, hi3, gi and hsr are all world in the honkai universe, and the img tree can host infinite amount of real universes and bubble universes
Exactly. I'm not so sure Teyvat/Genshin's universe is on a leaf, since it doesn't seem to act like you would expect if they are a leaf. I'm more inclined (based on the weird time stuff) to think that genshin is a bubble universe, propped up by Irminsul acting like a substitute for a world tree keeping the world together. Maybe some weird kind of ether anchor?
@@tobyharris4777 I've read a chinese fanfic which i dont know if its AU or just made up but it said the Genshin Universe is a leaf thats fallen from the tree
I don’t know why it’s not well known, but actually Dainsleif is confirmed to become playable in the future (they confirmed it in a Chinese livestream before the release of the game). His element is also present, but it’s an unknown symbol (the one you showed).
This. He's been 100% confirmed as a playable character ages ago, without a shadow of a doubt.
the reason is not so well-known this fact is cause... it was in a chinese stream. hoyoverse foreign fan base (as a whole, even counting HI3, GI, HSR, GGZ, ETC.) not understanding chinese makes so a lot of facts and issues happens in general. for example people think the honkai verse is a multiverse, but no, is a universe under a many-worlds interpretation theory, making so GI, HSR, HI3, etc. are in the same universe but thousands of millions of light years away in different planets of each other. or is a lower scale, people not knowing Dainsleif will be playable confirmed
@@luissaumeth8000 I didn't play honkai a lot, but I did hear the multiverse thing and had no idea it wasn't true. Is it a mistranslation in the game or is it an information they only shared in Chinese?
@@luissaumeth8000no? How the fuck is honkai star rail in the same universe as honkai Impact? That would make no sense. Look at Welt's story and come back. They're all worlds that are part of the imaginary tree for sure. But that's a multiverse
Would you like to link this? Wherever I look I cannot find it...
10:18 You are 100% correct, the animators did not have to add this detail but they did. Genshin animators are extremely passionate about the game. I wish I could say the same about some of the other branches.
Quantum and Imaginary elements are totally going to get added.
Imaginary is somewhat already present in the form of Geo.
@@ununun9995geo is literally physical with yellow damage😭
Why is Honkai in my Genshin?
@@kiriekurashiki1028 Because the devs have long since stated in a GDC panel that Honkai Impact 3rd, Genshin Impact, and Honkai Star Rail do have have story and mechanics interwoven with each other, its just Impact 3rd and Star Rail are much more obvious with it with Welt being directly from HI3rd, Bronya and Seele having the same exact names as their counterparts, as well as some Signets like Yanqing and Kafka being upgraded to playable characters, etc. etc. while with Genshin its moreso some characters and archons are equivalents to others, Heavenly Principles with Kiana, Venti with Wendy, Ei and Makoto with Raiden Mei and Doctor Mei, (this is a bit of a joke but Scaramouche with Kevin and Dr. Mei's kid, Adam), Theresa with Nahida, Alhaitham with Su, Furina with Seele (dual personalities with different clothes, same hairstyle just Furina's is more well kept but this is in line with Star Rail Seele having messier hair than HI3rd Seeles but having the same hairstyle, having to deal with an "sea" and "drowning" in it.), Navia with Durandal, and with future characters: Murata/Pyro Archon with Himeko Murata, Tsaritsa/Cryo Archon at this point is very obviously going to be a Bronya as well.
Yes Zhongli is a weird outlier to this, though honestly you could possibly make an argument his personality is based on Welt's and his design is like an older, more mature Adam from APHO. Otherwise, the only story based connection we have right now is that Otto when he was alive and was looking into different previous era projects witnessed Dvalin through a screen (probably via Project Valuka info with Honkai's Sumeru which yes, Sumeru sharing the name and the Irminsul Tree may have some relations to that). As well as the age old theory that Project Ark with Griseo led to Teyvat's creation which may be possible with her making paintings based on some people she remembers hence similarities between characters and such, even if some are moreso based on PE versions rather than the CE versions of HI3rd characters.
@@BulletBillSoilder Dude I was just joking because we all know that it is a multiverse
Holy shit that was the best explanation of quantum mechanics I have ever seen, not a single professor I know could explain it that simply.
Hoyoverse actually confirmed during a Bilibili livestream on September 27, 2020 that Dainsleif will become playable! And obviously he doesn’t have any vision we know of so abyssal power will eventually become playable
Scaramouche also didn't have a Vision.
or like a color prism all colors of rainbow having white = light white= all colors, lack of colors = black = void or in actual lingual terminology abyss= depths of sea where light can't reach (yes that's the greek definition of abyss, the origin of the word, it does NOT mean bottomless pit.)
@@kostuchan4418 because he had a delusion
I wonder if the relation between Imaginary and Quantum is inspired by the fact that a wave function has no real physical meaning and contains the imaginary unit but turns into a real probability when you square it? Probably not.
it might be who knows, I was thinking more of Imaginary element is inspired by the light properties
i thought it was a Plato philosophy reference
Squaring... Cubes... Hmmm...
i²=-1?
Imagine if Dainsleif is just a hydro character with region based gameplay quirks 💀
The community would explode.
honestly I could see something similar to the first anniversary happening… review bombing, disappointed videos, and.. qiqi
@@sourfar I can't see a future where Dainsleif is a Standard Banner pity-filler lmao
When you said you had a theory vid for Dainsleif on your community post, I did not expect it to be this good... Well done man.
I honestly believe light and dark will be the new elements. We still have celestia and khanreia to explore
Indeed
Isn't light and dark already present in Fontaine? With the weird names that I don't remember...
@@dayana4654 I wouldn’t consider them as elements. More like a regional buff?
imagine going to celestia to find another shooting barrels challenge lmao
Light(Celestial), Abyss(Abyssal), and Omni(the combination of all elements which transcenders like the traveler possesses) . So 3 elements to be exact. Dainsleif and Gold vision would fall into one of these categories.
In all seriousness, this is one of the best lore videos regarding this game I have seen in a while. I unironically was able to follow all the information and it was all very intriguing and widened my view of the scope of Genshin’s lore (as well as real-world mythology in the process)
What about Ashikai?
@@supayambaek Her likes and dislike/prefrences for characters somethimes influence her theories too much. In the 4.0 lore recap she just said Childe only had a cameo, disregarding the fact that Childe, the whale he saw, and his master will have some very important parts to play in the Fontaine AQ.
guess you're new to the game because these things were obvious since dainsleif first appeared.
Wouldn't this explain why the MC is developing all the elements of Teyvat? To ultimately achieve their forsaken power of Light as was suggested during that same Dainsleif Story Quest when it showed that our sibling apparently has her original powers back? Not sure but when you think about it the MC is actually going to be much stronger when his original Power is restored and will be refracted through all the elements he's achieved during his journey, like light turned into a rainbow, lol. His Sister even wielded her original sword!!! These two "Forces" Light and Darkness isn't considered elements but is a 'Source' of all the elements, we also got a taste of the Light Power during one of the quests a year or so back when we had to collect these type of "Light" sigils remember?
I would be very disappointed if the MC is the only one to use Light and if it would be used by combining all Elements to get it. It throws so much potential in the garbage. Other characters, enemies, locations, etc. thrown out just so 1 character gets to use it. But what if Light Traveler isn't balanced right? If Dendro Traveler is still better it becomes a waste. Unless you force the player to use him due to puzzles and such. That could disappoint players even more.
@@joesunday199 i disagree with your first part, i believe the Traveler should be the one of maybe the very few characters that use the power of the light. a big reason for this is it should be something they are uniquely able to do to give them a reason to truly exist outside of story and in gameplay. i mean they are literally surpassed in every one of their obtained elements by a gigantic degree and it WILL happen for pyro and cryo. if too many characters are made using the light element then it ruins and overshadows the Traveler's existence in gameplay and the build up to this apparent huge spike in power. i also believe they will probably finally be the character they're meant to be lore wise inside their gameplay. i really want the Traveler to actually feel powerful and meta changing for once. i agree that it would suck if he was weak as all hell as light Traveler but honestly i do believe they are intentionally making them weak until this happens to really feel like they've grown in power so i doubt that they would make him weak in any aspect. gacha games do tent to up rarity of characters in certain occasions and i bet Hoyo is gonna do that with the Light Traveler. they might be truly the first "6*" character that shakes up the meta and rightfully so. if they don't then ig great job Hoyo for all the buildup for absolutely nothing. enemies making use of the light would be fine, however, simply on the fact that it wouldn't hurt lore wise nor would it impede on the specialness of what the Traveler is supposedly meant to be. all im saying is, let's let the Traveler have something for once, please.
@@MOTH-Machine First of all; WALL of Text!
We aren't getting a "6*" character. Also, since Traveler is free (and default) They wouldn't make any money on Light as an Element if only they have it. Something else you'd need to have is Light based enemies (like Light Slimes). That way you get a lot of mileage out of the newly added Element. But, if the only one that uses Light is the Traveler; There isn't going to be much that can create Light Reactions. Maybe puzzles could.
What Hoyo could do is treat the (Light) Traveler as an Archon of sorts. Each Archon has been made to be the best of their respective Elements. Thus, the Light Traveler could act sort of as one. Being the best (meta) Light Vision holder. Then, introduce other characters that receive the Element of Light. It could even be apart of the story. Like, Aether/Lumin search for those without Visions that earn the Light Vision.
Then, they get their Banners and.... profit. 😁
when was the “light sigil” event? i don’t remember it?
edit: found it, it was for an enka event ^_^
While this is not confirmed i strongly believe that the traveller will get a buff with the new elements hes the MC after all.His going to get better for sure not only exploration wise but competitively wise too, and i believe there are many who highly anticipate that since its the only charachter who can switch elements.
Can't believe you mentioned all those physicists but not Dirac, the guy who saved my ass by making all quantum mechanics calculation use brackets and simplify all calculations that I do a lot
Pretty sure he is somewhere in the photo at 11:51 if that helps...
I don't really know what Dirac's sea is, but any quantum babble is incomplete without it.
Pneuma and Ousia are greek words
Pneuma/Pnefma (correct pronunciation) = spirit in greek
Ousia/ooseea = substance in greek
As a greek, the inclusion of many mythologies and this whole confusing story is quite fascinating and making me enjoy the game even more
pnevma (correct pronunciation)
As a chemistry and someone that had classes of quantum chemistry and some quantum physics I can say this is one of the best and most pedagogical explanations I have seen in a youtube video. Nice job dude 👍
Every fighting gacha game eventually has a light and dark element. In addition, the heroes will gain some type of "awakening" upgrade.
Let's hope they pull another dendro traveler there... Not another hydro traveler
Indeed. They always do that progressivelly. Create an elemental system, gradually release characters that defy it a lil bit then introduce dual elements and then the rarest light/dark
The goodhood assencion is 100% in development.
-crown description and number
-15 level of talents
-level 90 as max is weird
-also in lore its literally said that normal people can become gods
....literally everything Just waits for this mechanic
@@ziebus904and don't forget that "But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend" is literally in the character information of the traveler since day 1
@@ziebus904I realy hope that lv 100 will introduce 3rd ascention passive.
It's hoyoverse. There's Quantum, Imaginary, Psychic, Mecha, Imaginary, etc. Nothing is black n white when it comes to Hoyo. I'd love to see Genshins version of Quantum!
this was so unhinged in all the best ways possible 😹
I really loved this, it was like listening to myself connect the dots on a subject as an observer, but the observer isn't confused by the connections for once 😅
I like these topics.
That said, I think Hoyoverse does a better job in creating a hard "science magic" or "quantum-spiritual" system for it's titles than others like the MCU, which became random soft-magic trash after Endgame.
I also played Honkai for years, and you can see that despite the technobabble , it's well-written and well-thought of techno-babble.
I have a theory that the reason why Hoyoverse is keeping consistency in their quantum-spiritual/technomaguc systems is because they will have a grand crossover game that will take place across the whole of Quantum-Imaginary Space and the different worlds (games) that it holds, something like what Capcom has done or Dissidia but with a grander attempt.
So there's gonna be a bronnie: into the hoyoverse.
I wonder how a crossover would actually be written, knowing that many genshin players don’t play any honkai games and vice versa
@@sourfar it doesn't matter if they don't play it lol. it's up to hoyo to write a cohesive story
Holyy molyy , you are manifestation of Alhaitham in mortal realm 😂
Your video has the vital information and is key to helping me and certainly many others to under the World Building mechanics and structure of Genshin and other games! THANK You so much!
I came here for the genshin lore and got a physics lesson instead 😂😂😂
I came here to watch a Genshin video, but I'm leaving with a degree in Physics.. Pog
Imagine we get the another sibling as the new element character with their signature weapon from the start as a 5 star weapon💀
Late but, I think it would be interesting if one of the new "elements" is the True damage mechanic. The type of damage that The Shogun slash uses to insta-kill or Okami in Sumeru with the Spirit Bomb look-a-like.
That would be insane
The abyss twin and dainsleif directly use abyssal power in cut scenes, so far we havent seen anyone wielding "light" yet but like many say when the traveller gains all the elements possibly light will follow automatically. If however after visiting sneznaya we may visit khaenriah, we may gain abyssal power first before we get light. As far as abyssal powers go, opening PORTALS seems to be one abyssal power theme. The hounds created by accident by gold can breach worlds, we even have a "antibody" of elynas thats called a "breacher". It's interesting how the breachers can use geo and dendro but not the 4 other primary elements. Lectors also can use the 4 primary elements but not geo, dendro or anemo. Theres something core to the overarching story about that.
In many other gacha there is usually a 'light' and 'dark' faction. the 'light' faction can replace any other faction, and the 'dark' faction usually has incremental effects depending on how many of them you have in your team.
I had a problem with comprehending the information so I slowed down the video to 0.75, it didn't help much - but it was great, I hope to see more content like this on this channel ❤️
Lmao same!! It’s because his enunciation isn’t clear & he doesn’t pause between thoughts. Makes it very hard to follow.
I "love" how people forget that Hoyo is Chinese... And in Chinese cosmology there are eight elements... Seven of which can be easily related to the seven elements of Teyvat, while the eight one is just called "Heaven".
genshin isn’t entirely based on chinese myths and cosmology though?? there are plenty of christian and gnostic lore references as well? also, it’s been hinted at tons of times that there’s gonna be 9 elements at some point.
@@sourfar from what I heard, much of Gnostic references were added in English translation for the hell of it. But some are not.
And every country has some references to mythology of its real-world prototype. This is most obvious in Enkanomiya, since it's based on Ancient Greece, and Greek mythology is very well-known.
@@kotarouinugami1745 Exactly why I have a problem when ppl bring up Aether / Lumine's name as "Aether is a greek god" etc. Their og chinese names are so not related
@@Quon It's interesting that Aether and Lumine have a whole lot of different names in different translations, all of them relating to sky and light. For example, in Japanese they are Sora and Hikaru.
I don't think anybody else in the game is like that.
Fontaine technology is eerily similiar to what we've seen from khanrea.
They might catch the eye of celestia soon.
Here is a theory that I have had for some time now and I will share it with you. That one of the missing elements has been present in the game since the very beginning. And it’s one that the traveler has had since we first started playing as them. This also links in with the TCG mini game. And that is the traveler has the Omni element. Just like in TCG the Omni element can copy any other element which is why he can gain the element of what ever statue of the seven he/she touches. And if you look back at the opening of the game when you first start playing there are parts of the traveler’s outfit that are growing white but that changes the your character first touches a statue of the seven gaining that element for the first time. This is just my theory about this.
The traveller has white glow at start bcz they haven't touched any of the statues meaning no god has recognised them yet, so they have no elemental control, there is no such thing as omni element it is just an imaginary element to represent an outcome. Traveller is probably a creature of that nature, someone who can adapt.
I disagree with the omni element being traveler’s. If it’s anyone’s it’s Paimon’s; the omni symbol can be seen on Paimon’s design and they were the one who taught the traveler about gaining elemental powers through the statue despite no one else knowing of such a thing happening. Even the archons are confused about it; the omni element is Paimon’s.
The traveller’s element is those yellow beams of light at the start which they used to enhance their abilities (flying, sword, etc). We know that this isn’t the abyss element either. Traveler has their own power.
@@Astrophel24 Paimon's symbol is basically the reverse of the symbol on Mora. I doubt it's that meaningful.
Edit: I stand corrected.
@@joesunday199 Clearly you don’t know about the symbol. It’s a real symbol called the triquetra. The triquetra symbolizes interconnectedness and the concept of threefold unity, whether representing the Holy Trinity, the cycles of life, or the interconnectedness of body, mind, and spirit. Just because mora has it too doesn’t mean the symbol isn’t important.
@@Astrophel24 Huh. Not sure why I didn't remember that. Guess I'm more in Genshin Mode right now.
Edit: Thank you for correcting me.
The only way u could integrate Genshin into the Hoyoverse is to allow the equivalent of Quantum and Imaginary elements to exist because these two elements are fundamental to the lore of the universe.
Haha I knew that taking all of those chemistry and physics classes would be useful somehow! In all seriousness, this video was so well made with all of the research and care that you put into it! Can’t wait to come back to this video to see what was right!
Love how much we learn about life and the universe from you! Also so thoroughly enjoy the exploration of the literary, philosophical, and theological concepts as well (that thread of connections culminating in 27:37 is unreal!). Wonderfully presented, so intriguing and thoughtful!
The most important information that i got from this video is that me saving up for dain is in fact not an early sign of schizofrenia and that i should continue doing so. Thank you mister My Name for Now, very cool video
This dude's video feels like the manifestation of my thoughts trying to explain how hoyoverse operates in terms of lore. I very mich enjoyed it. The editing is funny too.
Man, Genshin Lore theorists are probably on a list for what they go through
since you talked about how Imaginary and Quantum are elements that within themselves contain all other elements I'm surprised there was no passing comment of how the in-game card game has an additional element called "Omni" that uses the triquetra, a logo plastered all over genshin in mysterious places with an unknown affiliation.
I'm okay with just Abyss being introduced as a playable element. It doesn't have to mix with any other element and be akin to Physical Damage.... but just... Magical Damage.
All the chemistry load I've studied just smacked me in my face again
Didn’t Mihoyo literally promise that Dainsleif would be a playable character in the future? Yes, he has abyssal void power. And the main character will have their gold sword (they and their sibling each wielded one such sword at the beginning of the game), which contains the powers of all the elements combined, but that doesn’t make them a new character when they get it. And it’s more of a philosophical debate whether this gold energy is a new element, or just simply is the combination of the other basic elements and remains unnamed.
Ye he have playable graphic since 1.0 it was shown o release live
bro i've just opened this video to chill after a day spent studing rational mechanics, i was't expecting to find a lesson on quantum mechanics... I meen i couldn't end the video because my brain was already fried at half of it, but for sure this will be my favourite one from now on.
See this vid after 5 hour of practice for Physics AS is such a delightful feelin'
the way the sea of quanta is described and how the abyss breaks the elements down to their original form makes me think of the flood in fontain and how the poeple desolve into water, into their original forms
16:16 irminsul doesn't absorbs chaos/abyssal powers
Only elemental energy
Abyssal powers would just corrupt and harm irminsul as we saw in archon quest
There are actually two trees.. The one that Sustainer controls, the one that Nahida controls, previously controlled by Phanes and Istaroth, and Rukkhadevata respectively..
The one Nahida controls is the Irminsul you described.. the one Sustainer controls is the one the Lorecrafter described.
@@surreabel bro what 😭
There arent 2 irminsul trees
Yes domain trees are refered as irminsul and are connected to main irminsul tree
Also nahida doesnt fully control irminsul she just has access to some of its functions
@@surreabel and lorecrafter was telling an example of imaginary tree that is from another game honkai impact 3
And its functionality is much different compared to irminsul
@@HeavenlyPrinciples12 I am referring to the tree they'll probably show later in the game.. Anyway it's just a hunch of mine.. Could be wrong..
Because in my theory, Phanes was replaced by Sustainer/Second Who Came and Chronos by Kairos, because of the changing of the tree, which was the cause of the first Samsara..
But both Sustainer and Kairos still exist as Heavenly Principles and Istaroth.. which means they weren't replaced.. Then there must be another lesser tree with similar power/functions whose Avatar could be someone called "something" who is a reincarnation of Eon/Time within the Samsara, this " something" loses its name, identity, memory, etc each time the cataclysm repeats and most recently it was known as Rukkhadevata and Nahida..
you just gave me the best review for entropy for my physics class. about to study this shit for my midterms
I absolutely loved this Video! One because of the in my pov very sound arguments but also how you're referencing Honkai as well as giving a brief summary of quantum physics. :D I personally believe that Teyvat is part of the Honkai universe :D
Kurzgesagt Genshin channel.
25:51 - 28:01 Wth, I did not know half these references existed in the story...
they never said Dendro is the last element. they said it is the last of the 7 elements OF TEYVAT. we know that teyvat is just a chapter , we will go beyond after that probably and we will be free of the 7 elements/nations rule.
I wonder how Paimon is gonna explain all this in her baby language.
That is such a funny thought
this is why I'm so glad I didn't skip the genshin story. It's very well written and interesting and gives room to all of this you talk about, it was very interesting to hear all these theories! I also think we will get more elements in the future, hoyoverse needs to get all the money they want from us lmao.
Sometimes I think about how Hoyoverse is also a huge supporter for scientific research, including nuclear fusion. The money they make from these games probably fuels so much research and scientifically driven facilities. Their dedication and interest to produce such deep lore and display their dedicated observance of scientific, historical, and religious theories and lore through their games is so much fun to be a part of! Its like theyre breaking down real-life for us in the form of a game that is digestible and interesting. This is my favorite part of the game as an information gremlin lol Other than this factor, Im obsessed with the music because the works that Yu-Peng Chen create are that of a musical prodigy. In my eyes, he revolutionizes experimental music in so many ways.
@@makijahphillips1597 Indeed u can be easily immersed in the lore and the music with the exploration adds up to that experience its a unique game.Well thought out.
The loretubers really be keeping me sane while waiting for fontaine 😭❤️
Isn't light and dark basically the Pneuma and Ousia introduced in Fontaine?
He did this video before Pneuma and Ouisa , he basically predicted how Pneuma and Ousia can develop !
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If Quantum and Imaginary do indeed get added in some way, I could see Pierro and Dainsleif both being Quantum, whereas Columbina, if she has ties to Celestia given her Angelic theming, is definitely gonna be Imaginary, I definitely look forward to more of this.
I dont think they will be naming it Imaginary and Quantum in Genshin.
it should be called Los and Kenos which are the greek words for Light and Void
Me Theories: "Cosmo" will be the eights element, which will be re-discovered as the element of Khaenri'ah's forgotten archon. This is pretty much the dark purple stuff we see in relation to the abyss all the time. I call it "Cosmo" because all elements end in "o", and also because in my broader lore speculation "the abyss" is synonymous with outer space, with the abyss order being aliens. Also Khaenri'ah was a space faring nation, or was aspiring to be, or maybe even succeeded in the end.
The ninth and last element will be "Primo", the primordial, all-encompassing element. This will be when MHY finally breaks the games systems wide open and makes characters that use multiple elements in some way or another. Like what the traveler is already doing.
Giving khanriah archon literally destroys whole lore and story...dont
i just want to take a moment to appreciate how insanely insightful this whole comment it
@@ziebus904 yeah, khaenriah is literally described as a “nation without a god” not because it’s god died or was forgotten, but because it literally started without a god, it’s entire purpose was to be a safe haven for everyone who didn’t want to seek shelter with the gods
instead, it could have something to do with the abyss twin being revealed to be the prince/princess of khaenriah rather than the prince/princess of the abyss like we all thought they were; instead of a god there could have been some type of monarch with a forgotten element
Much better that just slap imaginary and quantun in the history
@@Antithesismanifest its genshit they dont care
Lets be honest: its like all rpg games; you have "basic elements" and then two other elements that are 'rarer' (usually light and darkness) and more expensive to get.
Im guessing Dark/light characters will have their own banner, and only one character will be featured at a time and the pity sistem will be completely different (with different I mean harder to get the featured 5* star)
Honestly I think there will be power creep happening to force people into getting these new characters, the same we saw with Dendro and now with Pneuma & Ousia Fontaine but they won't increase the current pity or make it harder because at the end of the day if your product is too expensive people won't buy it.
They will probably be 6 star characters with featured 5 stars and is only available once every 1and a half years and will have a hard pity of about 200 pulls with 5 stars being guaranteed every 80.
I could also see them being very broken that if they are included in the party you would be allowed to have 5 characters instead of 4 but with the twist that you could only put 1 (either light/dark) to every team.
@@ScaryYokai Personally, I wouldnt say dendro is necessarily 'power creep', the old national teams still rock the abyss and there is no dendro character that overpowers what we had (Yelan, C2 Raiden....). The reactions, however, were the peak of the introduction of dendro.
I heard that some Fountaine enemies are weaker against Pneuma or Ousia, we can only expect that the abyss will be filled with such enemies to trick you into pulling for foutaine characters. We can also expect the following abyss effect to have something to do with mono-teams, considering we already know Liney shines best at mono-pyro teams.
imagine if we get to pull for our sibling lol
I like the idea of Light and Darkness being added. But, not like in the video.
There s also a problem with adding another Light character or Darkness character. Explaining how anyone else could even get these Elements. Say you have a character from Inazuma; How would they get Darkness? Neither Light nor Darkness have Visions. Then there's the Elemental Reaction problem. What about a Nation humans can live in that would represent these Elements.
I would love to have a discussion on these topics but rarely do fans engage.
There is at least one other unknown element confirmed to be coming - Whatever element Dain uses. He's been confirmed to be playable, but his element isn't any of the current 7, at least if the element writing is anything to go by.
If adding new elements I would call for MAGNET and ACOUSTICS for sure aside from QUANTUM - really interesting and powerful elements that really are missing in the Genshin.
also correction - Quantum mechanics is NOT truth of Universe since we still not know if Universe exists at all, at least as we perceive it. Quantum mechanics is just the explanation of existence on Earth and around Earth (accessible to us areas) on a core scale level.
And about Light/Datk theory of yours I DON'T AGREE. Why ? 1st - simply because in Chinese and Asian philosophies Light/Dark aren;t anticipated and described the same way as in European or American point of view. Genshin is primarly don't forget - made by Asians so I don't think they will use other understanding and concepts when creating the core of lore. So having such oversimplifications of Light/Dark from our western point of view in Genshin as you described is - bound to failure and false info.
as for number 9 - you jave it plenty complex in Chinese mythology and philosophy too. Not only in Norse mythology.
also 7, 5 and 8 - especially in Chinese ancient game of Qi. in martial arts in ancient books, etc. Looking only from Western point of view Genshin lore - it can be a big trap.
Not to mention that quantum thinking already existed in ancient civilization's thoughts, some of which you can see in Indian and Chinese ancient texts.
At the end you added too much conspiracy and even Jerusalem lol which isn't a case sure. The answer is more simple I think, you need just to know a bit of Asian philosophy history, science and mythology sure for including it into processing.
I won;t thou speculate too much, it isn't worth. We will see gradually with the game proceedings of the lore~
Game has shown Dainsleif to use element of darkness, and so did Skirk, and the other is element of light that is what we see at start when twins fight the Sustainer, that uses both light and dark element. So we get the "missing" 2 elements in the first cutscene of the game.
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OH GOD... all my college chemistry & physical knowledge plus church and my obsession with mythology all mashed together while watching this video and I could only keep repeating "OH GOD" through it all.
Well the possibility of only having 7 elements and still making those characters playable is high if they pull a scaramouche on us and swap their elemental powers by giving them visions before they get a release.
There was an event in enkanomiya where there is an item called Light Realm Sigil that is similar to the elemental sigils in each region. That should be enough proof/hint.
Yeah, I already talked about it in the sequel video. But that is a good observation.
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one thing i would like to add that i noticed playing today:
in enkanomiya, and the abyss lecters, and only in those, there is a mechanic where enemy attacks drain your elemental burst charge, i think that aligns with your theory...
The MOMENT you said you were about to change the names of the elements, I just knew where you were going and it got a good chuckle out of me, because those two elements are basically a guarantee to be added at some point. I've annoyed some friends by referring to light and dark in the context of Genshin as Quantum and imaginary as well in the past, heh.
Me who clicked on the video wondering if new elements would make geo great just to get mindfucked.
And this fricking video, teached me more about quantum physics than my uni
we must call the "light" element as "paimonial"
You mean primordial?
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@@sansomega6261 i got the pun, don't worry
Sir, you just helped me to do my chemisty homework. Thank u.
Let’s take a moment to appreciate how much research he had to do for this video 👀👀
Hoyoverse have already connected everything and has played with the idea of a multiverse. Honkai 3 characters have already crossed over canonically into Honkai Star Rail. One of the early hints of Genshin Impact was revealed through Honkai 3.
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Ya i thought light an dark elements in fontaine are leading to light an dark element type characters.
An this is how they start introducing that.
Great minds 😌 👌
Have good day bud 😊
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The problem with that is those aren't "Elements" but just "Energies". Any Vision holder (at least those from Fontaine) can use those Energies as well as their own Element. So, the Energies would be in a lesser category than the Elements.
@joesunday199 yes mohoyo is introducing the mechanics before bringing in the actual characters. Just Like they do with everything else.
Even if it's with characters of known elements, a introduction of some dark an light elements in game mechanics, is still a introduction.
Which later on will lead to playable light an dark type characters.
When though I don't know. But I do know, they will be in the game at some point.
In a way we already have light based in the form of mc. So you see we've had a light element based playable character since the game started.
More will come. In time.
What's thr old saying 🤔 " if you build it they will come". Let mohoyo cook. They building something huge.
An if new element hype from the past "dendro" is anything to go off of. I believe mohoy lo knows how excited we get an how much money we spend, an hoe ok we are with other 5 stars not being ran as much, when . . .
A new element is introduced into the game.
It's bound to happen.
First time here. Loved it though my brain is in pieces now!
U have a new sub
Omg, this vid is so well done!!
physics undergrad here. this was incredibly satisfying to watch
Dain was confirmed to be playable by hoyo in september of 2020. Teyvat chspters video came long before release and a to of people asked about Dain
😮the 2 end games rn
1) Abyss.
2 ) Imaginarium theatre.
POV - People who are majoring in Physics
23:51 and beyond, this is true chaos xD
You can add Jesus (in gnostic mythology) literally being the snake that told Eve to eat that forbidden knowledge fruit to the schizo-pile of references at the end of the video :D Juxtaposition between gnostic mythology and the "mainstream" christian one is overall a topic barely talked about in these circles, I think that's a shame, a lot of things in the game make more sense when seen in that context.
They have a lot of viewpoints that are directly opposed to each other, leading to the "kill them all, let God sort them out" treatment that gnostics usually got historically. Saying that God is Satan and Jesus is a different archetype of Satan opposed to the previous Satan is a bad way to make friends in medieval Europe.
Bro got corrupted by chaos/quantum/abyss/dark at the end
He progressively became insane, loved it
Thanks, now I can finally pass my quantum mechanics class in university! I've been looking for a Genshin Impact video to explain it for such a long one and yours is by far the best one!
This is the only reason I'll ever willingly study quantum mechanics
Another physics-related observation about the elements is that if you mix the colors of the rainbow physically (i.e. take 7 crayons and mix them on a piece of paper) you'll get black. If you mix them optically (spin a color wheel really fast) you'll get white.
I don't know whether that implies that chaos is more 'material', while light, which indeed has no mass to speak of, is 'idealistic' or smth.
And then there is this constant theme of flipping sides. What was up goes down, what was evil becomes good (archons having demon names, our twin siding with the abyss). It's like the whole world is just a chess party (also prominently featured in Genshin), where the two sides can be flipped in just one move of the board, are morally neutral, and equal in every way exept that it's always the 'light' who starts the game.
SO MANY THEMES AND SYMBOLS GENSHIN FFS CHILL PICK ONE
In the beginning of the game, the travelers have a white light on their outfits. Take it easy over powered by the unknown god that is black. Now, if you break this down to colors, black is the absorption of everything white is a reflection of everything.
It’s pretty obvious as to why the travelers lost
It also goes on to explain why when you meet your sibling for the first time their responses when you reach the end of your journey, you will understand. Celestia is the enemy and it’s not until they absorb all seven elements that they really have an understanding. It’s why when they absorb the Hydro element That now they hear voices it’s not just the fact that everything is there and everything is in the water and etc.. It’s now that they have absorbed more than half of the original elements. Things are starting to change.
But the comparisons don’t stop there in one of the beginning, story quest, you run to find ancient boar meat. And in the process you find a newly defrosted Olaf. Who was from 500 years ago encased in a. “ special kind of ice.”
March was found floating in space from an unknown planet also encased in a special kind of ice. She mentions that she doesn’t know how long she was there could’ve been hundreds of years but she remembers nothing previously. Neither does Olaff.
Paimon it’s from the abyss to leave the trailer down the path. She wants him to go down. March is from teyvat and the cryo archon is probably one of the head people of the abyss and is fighting against Celestia, and the only way to do that is to get the gnosis of all of the elements. Because then they are the environment of everything that’m celestia is not.
Such incorrect grammar intro. It's all vsauce's fault using incorrect grammar and people copying him. Anyway makes sense, 9 elements, 9 realms, 9 realms of yggdrasil, irminsul (in celtic), Khaenri'ah Nordic names. As of the symbols, you exaggerate cuz it just says eclipse. also as of sea of quanta and abyss, think a bit, what is abyss? the definition of its origin language, not the incorrect English definition since English only butchers languages saying that abyss means bottomless pit. Abyss means only one thing and is the deep sea. Deep enough where the light doesn't reach. That's the one and only definition of abyss. Also seriously stop making videos if you think quantum mechanics is a field of chemistry when it's a field of physics. Also as of the elements, the mc names are both light. Lumine in Latin, that is mispronounced, and Aether in Greek, that is also mispronounced.
I'm of the opinion that Abyss characters will be excellent support characters that make other elements/reactions stronger.
8:07 All the people hating on Genshin should watch this video. I've learned so much about various topics via this game... Philosophy, literature, mythology and religions, physics, quantum physics... Like... Not everybody plays zhis game for boobs and pretty faces... In fact, it was not really made with the intention of to be played for that... Hence the no skip dialogue button and the lore hiding in item descriptions.... But until now it was all sorta-kinda... Now, I legit get a refresher of highschool physics class, lol 😂😂😂
dude actually put in 6-7 minute section in his genshin video explaining quantum mechanics. This has the same vibes as that "SM64 - Watch for Rolling Rocks - 0.5x A Presses" video when a guy explaining a SM64 speed run challenge about doing as few jumps as possible, suddenly says "We must now talk about parallel universes."
Nice theory work! I just want to say one thing for 12:08, don't insult Yoga and the concept of Chakras which has Vedic origin from ancient India. I understand calling pseudo spiritual gurus that bullshit people by using these concepts falsely but that does not make it okay to insult Yoga in itself.
Quantum Mechanics is not a Field of Chemestry, it's a Field of Physics... Actually, Chemestry (Named cuz of Alchemy) is also a Field of Physics, which should be renamed to "Molecular Reactive Physics" instead of Chemestry #ChangeMyMind