The Forbidden Power of the Heavenly Principles | Genshin Impact Theory

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  • Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024

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  • @DragonMJE
    @DragonMJE  11 месяцев назад +97

    The following is a list of the major topics cut out from the full video (I might make Part 2 if people like this one):-
    1. The Duality of Pneuma and Ousia and their Relationship with the Chemical (NOT Chymical) Marriage
    2. Advanced look at the Fermi-Dirac Distribution and the Pauli Exclusion principles concerning Atomic Bonding and Energy transfer.
    3. In-depth look at the Sustainer (and Dainsleif… And Zhongli)
    4. Kaeya and Layla (😉)
    5. Hermes Trismegistus and his connection with Genshin Impact’s world.
    6. Solomon Trismosin and his connection with Genshin Impact’s world.
    7. Detailed discussion regarding Rhinedottir. Who she is, and what she wants.
    8. More stuff about Daoism (Taoism).
    9. The connections of the Crimson Moon to Fate and the Sun (very important actually).

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r 11 месяцев назад +9

      Dang, all of them sounds really cool

    • @rakanmohanna9098
      @rakanmohanna9098 11 месяцев назад

      ‏‪3:38‬‏ ‏‪3:38‬‏ ‏‪3:38‬‏

    • @rakanmohanna9098
      @rakanmohanna9098 11 месяцев назад

      ‏‪3:38‬‏ ‏‪3:38‬‏ ‏‪3:38‬‏

    • @rakanmohanna9098
      @rakanmohanna9098 11 месяцев назад

      K

    • @xpearlx
      @xpearlx 11 месяцев назад +2

      These all sound interesting

  • @MonaBread
    @MonaBread 11 месяцев назад +58

    “Incest is bad BUUUT” that’s a worrying start

    • @Kyosukedono
      @Kyosukedono 4 месяца назад

      Incest is bad because it leads to inbreeding.
      If you can't have children though wether naturally or artificially, then idgaf. You do you.

  • @EmperorMist
    @EmperorMist 11 месяцев назад +135

    bro i just literally watched an elden ring analysis on the twin nature of elden lord placidusax and marika with radagon

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 11 месяцев назад +2

      😭😭👌

    • @RukkhaRukkha
      @RukkhaRukkha 11 месяцев назад +2

      21:18 The world is a cycle.

  • @SOLEILunae
    @SOLEILunae 11 месяцев назад +78

    That opening line is crazy 😂💀 good theory though

    • @somedragonbastard
      @somedragonbastard 11 месяцев назад +11

      I just started the video and I had to immediately pause and check the comments, I was so confused why THAT would be thr opening line

    • @amouramarie
      @amouramarie 11 месяцев назад +3

      The fact that he felt he had to preface _a theory video_ with a disclaimer like that shows how unhinged some people have gotten 😬

    • @nicolas._.2294
      @nicolas._.2294 10 месяцев назад +3

      I mean there are people shipping lumine and Aether
      And Klee and Albedo
      And other unholy things ​@@amouramarie

    • @amouramarie
      @amouramarie 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@nicolas._.2294 Okay? Game of Thrones had scenes of a brother and sister doing it doggy style. It's fiction. It's not supposed to be constrained to normality.

  • @NatureWatcher343
    @NatureWatcher343 11 месяцев назад +118

    If the Sustainer is the 2nd Descender then that would actually explain why she was able to take on Lumine and Aether both at full power.

    • @OffLunds
      @OffLunds 11 месяцев назад +7

      Dawg she was toying around with them as u could see the way she was using barely 5% of her ability

    • @Pre4xes_
      @Pre4xes_ 11 месяцев назад +19

      @@OffLundsthe siblings were not at full power I think because in their characters cards(or something else) it says that they will ascend to the seat of god, which probably means they’ll be more powerful

    • @OffLunds
      @OffLunds 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Pre4xes_ True

    • @kaimilize8328
      @kaimilize8328 10 месяцев назад

      Second descender is Nibelung, the second throne, the dragon king

  • @HyruIia
    @HyruIia 11 месяцев назад +60

    Traveler and Paimon are always portrayed as the Sun and the Moon by many NPCs, so it's most likely that in this last samsara the chemical marriage will be involving these two Still he needs the three other moons to complete the ascension and replace the Primordial One as the new creator of the world.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 11 месяцев назад +7

      If this is true then we need to meet Ishtaroth, Barbeloth and one other.

    • @HyruIia
      @HyruIia 11 месяцев назад +11

      @@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Barbeloth is an Hexenzirkel member, not one of the shades.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@HyruIia That's what you think. 😏
      I am starting to come round to the idea that she's both, or at least incredibly closely linked to them.

    • @captaindanger13
      @captaindanger13 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@HyruIia i was gonna say the same thing but both their names end in "oth" which looks suspicious.....

    • @xingqiu1809
      @xingqiu1809 11 месяцев назад

      @@HyruIia she could be one of the shades and a hexenzirkel member tho, we do not have much info about that organization atp so it's ok to theorize for fun

  • @emery120
    @emery120 11 месяцев назад +63

    Watching your videos makes my mind feels like it's in a washing machine.
    You're one of the two Genshin theorists I watch and seeing your theories makes Ashikai's theories seem like a gentle morning breeze.
    This is a compliment btw I love using my mind gear to understand it all.
    Looking forward for the next washin machine session (aka the next elaborated theory vid that could be part 2 of this)

    • @captaindanger13
      @captaindanger13 11 месяцев назад +20

      so true. here i was thinking ashikai's theories were super complex and then this guy's like "hold my beer." lol

    • @ShirouE
      @ShirouE 11 месяцев назад +17

      I genuinely cannot think of another RUclipsr who connects so many complex concepts into a coherent topic about Genshin Impact. Even if his theories are wrong, the topics he talks about are extremely insightful towards how Hoyoverse develops the game's story.

  • @ReverseElectro
    @ReverseElectro 11 месяцев назад +68

    The more I watch the more I am amazed with how similar Genshin's use of the Rebis is to Elden Ring's.

  • @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt
    @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt 11 месяцев назад +50

    When your friend who is new to the game asks you "So what's Genshin Impact all about?"
    Tag them this: 9:10

    • @nicolas._.2294
      @nicolas._.2294 10 месяцев назад

      I am lost

    • @OrkOfOhio
      @OrkOfOhio 8 месяцев назад

      I love that I understood every word.

  • @DrakeWurrum
    @DrakeWurrum 8 месяцев назад +2

    Oh my god. I was going to bring up King Deshret, the scarlet king who is often delicted by a sun, and Nabu Nalikata, for whom Deshret built the City of the Moon Maiden...
    And there you are hinting at it.

  • @sMv-Afjal
    @sMv-Afjal 11 месяцев назад +9

    Here my extemsion to your theory:
    1st Descender : PO (Phanes + 4 Shades)
    2nd Descenser : Sustainer + Dragon King Nibelung
    3rd Descender : Dianslief + Paimon
    4th Descenser : Aether + Luminue
    Here my reasoning for sustainer, the Dragon King must have found her in the abyss, the Night Mother. The queen of the abyss, the forbidden knowledge.
    He recurited her to fight for her, completing her Yin with Yang. This could explains why the coming of 2nd Descender and Dragon King could be at same time without The Dragon king being the descender.
    During the fight between second descender and PO, the shades were destoryed except Istroth. The Dragon king sealed not killed to prevent recarnation and know we know as the sinner.
    Phanes manipulated and decieved the Sustainer and use her as his shade (his yin which was destoryed). Though it doesn't grant their orginal strength.
    When the third descender came, Phanes killed him and used his body to create gnosis and gather enough power resurrect his shades and regain his absolute authority.
    When the sustainer fought the twins during the cataclysm, she was healed by the traveller power somewhat, that why she didn't kill the twins and seal the traveller after she realizied this only after obtianing the abyss twin power which is like all element combined like the Dragon King. She then confronted Phanes and was sealed. This is why the heavenly principle is silent. Phane is too broken.
    Though I cannn't say anything about the battle pass cutscene.

  • @alexprus7953
    @alexprus7953 8 месяцев назад +2

    5:20 The line "a monster that will devour the world in a single bite" is very interesting when you consider the theories from your Angel's Egg video. Would this imply that the Traveller will eat the Egg that represents Teyvat? Or if the world is a dream, then maybe they'll eat the dreamer? Like a certain "Emergency Food" for example 🤔

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  8 месяцев назад +1

      Yea, I thought about that. I might discuss it in the future.

  • @owohscorner
    @owohscorner 11 месяцев назад +16

    Since Lunine has the Inteyvat in her hair, i hope we get some information on the feather in Aether's hair

  • @nuguya-2
    @nuguya-2 11 месяцев назад +44

    If the Gnosis is the 3rd Descenders remains and the Gnosis are all different elements.
    That means the 3rd Descender is just like the Travelers who is able to use all Seven Elements.
    That would mean the 1st Descender Heavenly Principles and 2nd Descender are just like the Traveler and the 3rd Descender.
    That's why in the beginning of the game the Twins were stopped from leaving by the SUSTAINER of Heavenly Principles...
    The Sustainer's job is to SUSTAIN or MAINTAIN the Heavenly Principles keep them in place.
    Her line, "The arrogation of mankind," was directed at the twins who we thought are "Gods." But, what if they were never "Gods."
    What if all Four Descenders were Rebis. Making both Twins MCs because they both have Light and Darkness.
    A Rebis is a reunion of opposing qualities such as spirit and matter or male and female, represented by an androgynous being.
    Thus, if you pick Lumine your opposing qualities is Aether (Abyss), and if you pick Aether your opposing qualities is Lumine (Abyss).
    I believe this is why Albedo thought of both Twins (depends on who you picked) as the same as him. Because Albedo is on the 2nd of Magnum Opus.
    Thus making Teyvat nothing but a LAB, and everything in it Lab RATS.

  • @NatureWatcher343
    @NatureWatcher343 11 месяцев назад +12

    Wait... Wth did i just watch this is a masterpiece. Well done

  • @notbubblystarters05
    @notbubblystarters05 11 месяцев назад +6

    Well, it would make sense that the Twins are the Ying and Yang. *I mean, just invert both their clothes' colors and you'll get the other twin's color scheme.* Not to mention in Aether's dark clothing, there's a hint of white and in Lumine's light clothing, there's a spot of black. As they really couldn't exist without each other. I know it may be crazy, but Hoyoverse is well known for going big or going home, thus I always had the nagging suspicion that the Traveler might merge with someone in the future. Though I can't decide if it'll be their twin (to stay together forever and be androgynous befitting the requirement in Alchemy) or Paimon (just because it's been redundantly emphasized that she's our food to be devoured one day maybe as her sacrifice in order to protect us). But it's pretty out there, so I dunno.

  • @jairverplaats153
    @jairverplaats153 11 месяцев назад +5

    It boggles my mind that you haven't surpassed 10k subs. You been dropping bangers on a consistent basis, keep it up! And happy holidays

  • @fandomcake5158
    @fandomcake5158 11 месяцев назад +6

    IDK man this theory got alot of Alabama meme potential.
    Kidding. I think the concept of duality being so big in this game helps this argument.

  • @CarlosAnglada
    @CarlosAnglada 11 месяцев назад +4

    Extraordinary. This lines up almost perfectly with Ashikai's latest video.

  • @rue1533
    @rue1533 11 месяцев назад +8

    I love how you used einstine in the first clip to justify incest, a man who married his cousin

  • @benedictyau
    @benedictyau 11 месяцев назад +11

    Excellent theory as always. The more I watch your theories, the more I think you would really like the Toaru Majutsu no Index light novels. Also Merry Christmas 🎉

  • @Ulquiorra_Cifer
    @Ulquiorra_Cifer 11 месяцев назад +14

    what a start for a video

    • @rajaryan-fe1oy
      @rajaryan-fe1oy 11 месяцев назад +2

      21st century you can never be too safe

  • @persephone_8949
    @persephone_8949 11 месяцев назад +4

    I wanna randomly add that the concept of femenine/masculine counter parts is widely studied in psychology.
    As the basis, a person shares both male and female chromosomes.
    Later becoming one or the other.
    Psychology, when coming across a person with issues regarding identity or issues against identity, it is believed that its causes by the imbalance of male/female inside said person.
    Only when said balance is achieved a person can find comfort. (Example: a person finding comfort in the opposite gender, a person finding comfort in being masculine/femenine, etc.)
    Just a curious thought that even psychologically, there's a small truth to be applied

  • @winner23746
    @winner23746 11 месяцев назад +8

    Merry Christmas 🎅

  • @ericsigil
    @ericsigil 11 месяцев назад +34

    Aparently, falling in love in Teyvat is a curse on itself 🤔🤔

    • @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt
      @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt 11 месяцев назад +9

      Actually this might be true

    • @emery120
      @emery120 11 месяцев назад +13

      Hoyoverse loves to make couples go through hell and back in all of their games so I guess it's just as expected coming from them

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 11 месяцев назад

      I guess that explains why no playable characters are in a relationship. Apart from metagame thoughts like "Mihoyo is in business of selling waifus/husbandos".

  • @Charlez_Ink
    @Charlez_Ink 11 месяцев назад +8

    Surprised you didn’t mention that albedo, Rhinedottir’s creation, looks like an androgynous combination of aether and lumine

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 11 месяцев назад +1

      And Albedo is definitely "white". So he can work as "white queen" to Twins' "gold king".

  • @imgolb
    @imgolb 11 месяцев назад +7

    I one agree with the title, i also have reason to believe( from exploring the desert) that There’s an 8th element of light. The element the sustainer of heavenly principal uses, and from using the light element weilders are able to manipulate anemo, pyro, cyro, dendro, electro,hydro, and geo without a vison. Which would connect to another theory i heard about traveler having light elemental

    • @imgolb
      @imgolb 11 месяцев назад +1

      In one of King deshrets temples ( idk if that is spelled correctly) He has trap mechanisms that open up to a glowing white cube ( light elemental?) And from that glowing white cube dark red cubes that look TOO similar to the heavenly principals cube are projecting from the glowing white cube dealing Pyro damage. Like how in the beginning cutscene where the twins are fighting the sustainer and she summons a white light cube that ends up turning into that dark red elemental cube. ( Pyro Cube really)

    • @imgolb
      @imgolb 11 месяцев назад

      and then thinking about the bigger picture, king deshert temples uses technology like traps that manipulate/ is that light element. The “ light” element / the sustainers power is the forbidden knowledge

  • @sylvarogre5469
    @sylvarogre5469 11 месяцев назад +17

    But, Canotila sees things BACKWARDS. She thinks void hounds are cute puppies, and a ruined world is a pleasant meadow, and a sundered, blackened sky is a sunny day. That means her description of the Traveler & Paimon are also BACKWARDS.🤔

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  11 месяцев назад +22

      The Melusines, including Canotila, perceive the world differently due to their unique eyesight, which allows them to see the true nature of things. It's not a matter of seeing things backward; rather, their special vision reveals a different perspective. In the case of the Rifthound that attacked the Traveler, it appeared as a dog because it embodies the 'Will' of Carter, as expanded on in Jakob Baker's note near the Sunflowers.
      In other words, a Melusine's eyes will show her a different perspective of the world (Traveler and Paimon included) not a wrong or "backwards" perspective. In that sense, the Traveler being a terrible monster makes sense as he has the potential to become a supreme divinity.

  • @HELiXDzn123
    @HELiXDzn123 11 месяцев назад +3

    Master of cooking, although I have one suggestion try flattening your voiceover from stereo to mono. These videos are always great just that one thing stuck out and bothered me. Looking forward to the next one

  • @bawilove3422
    @bawilove3422 11 месяцев назад +6

    My name for now gave us a Christmas present..

  • @rezw667
    @rezw667 11 месяцев назад +3

    THANKS for fueling my albedo x mona agenda, theyre a walking instance of masculine sun x feminine moon

  • @AstraLuna-o9i
    @AstraLuna-o9i 11 месяцев назад +4

    I was not disappointed that we are talking about alchemy and you included clips from FMA Brotherhood. Great theory, just curious tho, who the hell in the sinner?

  • @theundertaker4797
    @theundertaker4797 11 месяцев назад +4

    Great theory video!! Also got to see Elden ring and AC Mirage bg music in a genshin theory video 😭😭.

  • @hainguyenthanh8601
    @hainguyenthanh8601 11 месяцев назад +4

    "You might be only one of countless stars, but you're Paimon's whole world". Well this is awkward

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  11 месяцев назад +6

      Yea, it appears that the story is going in a direction where Paimon will slowly replace the Traveler's sibling. The only issue is that I am not sure if she is doing it innocently or as part of a malevolent plot.

    • @hainguyenthanh8601
      @hainguyenthanh8601 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@DragonMJE Recent dialogue suggest she not making much head way in convincing the traveler to stay in teyvat without the other sibling approval

  • @adora_burst8143
    @adora_burst8143 11 месяцев назад +4

    with how the intro to this video started, I would've thought this would've been a Coffin of Andy and Leyley theory and not a Genshin one.

  • @herrschersfool
    @herrschersfool 10 месяцев назад +1

    you know that Primordial human reminds me a hell of a lot of Hells Paradise. Such a good anime. would recommend it heavily if anyone hasn’t seen!

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  10 месяцев назад +2

      You mean the Lord Tensen?

    • @herrschersfool
      @herrschersfool 10 месяцев назад

      @@DragonMJE yes!

  • @Argenttttttt
    @Argenttttttt 11 месяцев назад +5

    all i heard was my chemical romance

  • @doombringerson
    @doombringerson 11 месяцев назад +4

    I can’t tell if you’re creating insanely far fetched theories out of thin air, or if you’ve done so much real history and mythology research that it’s just that obvious to you. either way, great job, can’t wait for more!

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  11 месяцев назад +1

      Game theories are made for entertainment purposes not educational ones. While I do try to include some useful facts and real-life information, the primary goal is to explore "what if" scenarios in the game and hopefully give the viewers something to enjoy and think about.

  • @anaveragehuman1645
    @anaveragehuman1645 11 месяцев назад +6

    amazing video! buuuut i do have one thing to add: at 23:11, it's mentioned that the travellers are identical twins. if we go by normal biological laws, they can't be because identical twins are always of the same gender (they came from the same egg that split so y'know...); they're probably fraternal twins instead. idk if this is relevant to any theorising but i just wanted to point it out :D
    of course, they might not even be human in which case what i've said doesn't even matter lol
    thank you again for the video and happy new year to everyone :)

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  11 месяцев назад +12

      I meant it in the sense of having extremely similar characteristics and properties not in the conventional dizygotic and monozygotic definitions. However, I should be a little more careful with the definitions I suppose. Regardless, we don't need to worry about the diversity of the placental and amniotic arrangements of Aether and Lumine. They are likely not humans at all (if they are then they have some kind of divine blessing).

    • @anyanP
      @anyanP 11 месяцев назад +4

      Solution: both are intersex, one presenting masc and one presenting femme

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 11 месяцев назад

      @@anyanP And normally, they change which is which at least once a week. Which is why Traveller refuses to wear any other outfit than his starting one.

  • @HuyNguyen-kc6qd
    @HuyNguyen-kc6qd 11 месяцев назад +4

    this man is cooking

  • @paulamblard3836
    @paulamblard3836 11 месяцев назад +2

    Why Lumine x Aether, when for the white, Paimon seams mush more corresponding ?
    The sibling was also describe as "golden nara" in the Aranyaka quest, so can not be the white that merge with gold.

  • @mrswhiddleberry
    @mrswhiddleberry 11 месяцев назад +6

    this theory and the energy used to deliver it is immaculate

  • @catz1235
    @catz1235 10 месяцев назад

    I appreciate the subtitles, thank you!

  • @AHAB-conscious
    @AHAB-conscious 10 месяцев назад

    man, i was listening this in the backstory, it sounded like i was at a very sketchy church. ( but made more sense than anyone could have been)

  • @richardjones8846
    @richardjones8846 11 месяцев назад +2

    "incest is bad"
    andy and leyley enjoyers: say what now?

  • @blooming-wonder
    @blooming-wonder 11 месяцев назад +2

    i just woke up and one of few sentences i heard after waking up, "incest is bad, but-" 😭

  • @mizukiNoellemain
    @mizukiNoellemain 9 месяцев назад

    your music choices never miss damn

  • @1cook1e
    @1cook1e 11 месяцев назад

    I have to mention that io io pan and that whole phrase, as is also mentioned in game, is taken exactly from the story of Ajax, it’s the part when he’s faking being nice to the gods just before he kills himself

  • @iseuls
    @iseuls 11 месяцев назад +2

    union of two? like that one joke in HSR "heliobic homogenization"?

  • @3u760
    @3u760 11 месяцев назад +1

    Okay, (sorry I still thinking about this 🙏)
    So at first, I kind of went " :/ " when you said sustainer is the night mother,
    I personally still think night mother ≠ sustainer (because I think night mother is the abyss itself) BUT, sustainer might've been the 'heir' of night mother.
    I have more speculations, but I will say my bit here:
    Irmin is the first divine halberd, fischl is the last divine halberd. (legend of shattered halberds)
    -Irmin = the king of the underworld/khaenri'ah (probably red king)
    -Irmin = phanes
    -Fischl = nyx that came from phanes
    In flowers for princess fischl terms:
    -Kaiserin = night mother (that came from chaos/nothing)
    -Kaiser = god-king?/irmin?/narfi?
    -Fischl = nott (fischl's complete name has 'Narfidort' in it)
    --
    "Are not dragons and snakes kin?"
    I think dragons ≈ snakes, and it's probably underworld / overworld situation. (ad astra abyssosque)
    We have god-king (?) that sent crown heirs to the kingdom of darkness. And I think the antithesis of this god-king is the kings we're familiar with (red kings/PO evil twin)
    So like,
    PO = king in the heaven
    evil PO = the snake
    Like for example, deshret refuse to be, an archon(??) from celestia (and he was the son of the sky). Instead, he made his own domain in sumeru with GoF (underworld/earth)
    (Also remember that we're like deshret according to liloupar)
    And there's GoF, who's from the sky too, but then she fell/casted away (istaroth/sophia), and then befriended deshret. Now, if you remember what traveler think about GoF's appearance, she kinda sounds like the night mother from the pale princess book.
    (Also, I recommend re-reading the riddles from vol. 5 of byakuyakoku collections, especially no. 6)
    So basically, I think sustainer and the other girls (istaroth/istaroth's clones) are like fischl.
    (I could elaborate more but I'll write it like this for now)

    • @3u760
      @3u760 11 месяцев назад

      About the descenders, I have some ideas. But maybe I'll wait for your sustainer/dainsleif video first.
      If I had to share my thoughts a bit:
      -I actually also thought that dainsleif is a /descender/.But to say that he was which one (1,2,3) I don't really want to point (for some reason I thought that he's a failed descender, probably the game won't agree). But the way people & you speculate how the 3rd descender had been is probably because infos from the leaks, right?
      -Istaroth was 'lying' about the beginning of teyvat (I'm saying the numeration of 1/2/3/4 descenders is deliberate, probably just to make things neat for us)
      -also maybe consider pangu, purusha, ymir (venti said in genshin manga), they sounds like the 3rd descender
      -probably, 1/2 descenders had experienced what the 3rd descender had (and maybe us will too, the way paimon concerned about us being killed to bits like the 3rd was)

    • @3u760
      @3u760 11 месяцев назад

      Also about rebis, if it's about the sun + moon,
      does eclipse count?
      like, the eclipse (black sun) dynasty?
      the khaenri'ah dynasty?

  • @throwaway6065
    @throwaway6065 11 месяцев назад +1

    I enjoy that you post regularly, thank you for that. However, I have a little situation, your videos are often hard to understand... I catch a something here and there but I get lost, there's just a lot

  • @osmial
    @osmial 11 месяцев назад +1

    To me Paimon is most likely the God of Fate who rules over teyvat and is probably what the functions ruined neuvillette talked about
    After our talk with Nicole in fontaine i just thought she just mentioned that "only fate shall serves as your guide" as if she knew what traveler's fate would be or where it is leading them and conveniently Paimon leads them throughout the game wherever she wants us to go
    And remember the Roots cycle thing? Isn't it odd that we are exploring it backwards? And suspiciously if we trace everything back we can see the memories of our sibling idk why but we may be going back to past after the series of teyvat to witness everything and fix the whole thing
    Also remember i said Paimon's power might be the function that was ruined? Well if the fate of the world if ruined then wouldn't it be correct to say that the world is facing so many events of the same level as in past?
    3 major events Primordial one arrival and fight with dragons,the war of vengeance,archon war
    Then there's mid level events
    every thousand year ago a big figure doing something unexpected (this is a bit difficult to say because there's not much known about civilizations of teyvat)
    Well im mentioning this because every thousand year or so a civilization has fallen
    For example
    Remus and Remuria
    King deshret and his civilization
    King irmin and Khaenri'ah
    So far these are the known one's that falled and their kings name are known there's also this dragonspine one but idk it's kings name
    Lastly the minor events these events happens every 500yr
    This is why i think the fate of the teyvat in this cycle is most likely unpredictable but if not saved it would cost everything

    • @osmial
      @osmial 11 месяцев назад

      As for dainsleif being 3rd idk man dude doesn't even look like one his history is rather simply explained a knight of khaenri'ah who got cursed then slowly erased his memory to lessen the burden

    • @osmial
      @osmial 11 месяцев назад +1

      And for sustainer being 2nd? Nah man she is most likely the last remaining shade or the one who can use her power's rn but one thing is sure we have to save her since she is sustainer of the principals her death might result in things that would not be a good thing to know

  • @3u760
    @3u760 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is my opinion:
    I always thought that PO related to the gnostic syzygy,
    so about the yin and yang thing, I think it's the human realm itself, which is when the light realm and abyss realm met, and the very reason why samsara is happening (human realm = samsara)
    And I think in the beginning, it's PO (or light?) That came to the abyss realm (night mother's land) and did that phanes thing
    So,
    PO = syzygy
    Phanes = snake = demiurge
    Istaroth = sophia
    Istaroth always tends close to the abyss (istaroth went to enka, lumine become the abyss princess) and her jesus keep getting replaced by the wrong one (demiurge)
    like aether should've been with lumine but his partner is paimon instead (istaroth from the previous one?)
    I think the chymical marriage is a fraud, in a sense that it's just a mortal desire(?)

  • @TheKnizzine
    @TheKnizzine 11 месяцев назад +2

    Anytime you are talking about dietys or royaltee incest should be assumed.

  • @elienasoleil
    @elienasoleil 9 месяцев назад

    didnt philospher's stone was mentioned in the fontaine weapon ascension material's description?
    “Combining the immortal stone with the Ichor essence extracted from primordial water, and carved into a race as black as iron - with arcane lithos for skin and Ichor for blood, never again fearing the curse of returning to the primeval past...” Goblins with black skin? Doesnt that sound like hilichurls?? If so then they must have made by ichor (which is described as blood of gods) and arcane lithos (mysterious stone= immortal stone) sounds pretty much like philosopher’s stone. Which is said to contain elixir of life.
    So we already knew that hilichurls existed before khaenriah war too its just that their population exploded afterwards BUT Dain said only those who carry the blood of other nations turned into hilichurls while the real khaenriah people were cursed with immortality.
    In Fontaine chapter we witnessed how people dissolved into water and it only affected Fontainians because they were ocenaids that turned into humans by Egeria, using primordial sea. Once their artificial bodies touch the primordial sea water their physical body couldn’t hold longer and turned into its original form. So what if; what happened in khaenriah was something similar? What if people underground of Teyvat and on the ground were made of different materials maybe also by different entities?
    In Enka we were introduced to a new race; vishap people. Which are vishaps who gradually evolved into humans. They are described as; “over time the forms of the Vassals of Watatsumi gradually became more identical to humans, to the point that the only trait distinguishing the Vassals of Watatsumi from normal humans was their snake-like pupils.” Which is interesting cause another race that is distinguishable by their pupils are the people of Khaenriah. Their pupils are four-pointed stars (like primogems). Could their origins be a different type of animal or beast that later on evolved into a human?(Maybe a star beast O-o). Hence they did not turn into goblins as they werent one from the start. Only humans under the rule of Celestia turned into hilichurls. Though here in the text, usurper that is mentioned is Remus as far as I understood and he probably is not the Phanes but maybe he used the same method Phanes did to create humans. He just did not have the power to create them in their homo sapiens form. Maybe lacked a specific ingredient who knows.
    The real question is: in Fontaine, nation of hydro that is built on a waterfall, disaster struck in form of flood (tho nothing happened because hydro dragon forgave their sins) in what possible form it might have struck in khaenriah that it effected all who were in there? Specially in an underground kingdom? I lowkey wanna imagine that they were washed by blood of the gods like their blood rained down on them (ehe) but that sounds unlikely.

  • @dreadknight5525
    @dreadknight5525 10 месяцев назад

    if i remember correctly Morax also gets called as a woman and accepting gifts of perfume and something else but it was in a book called Rex Incognito that would make him androgynous and also make him a descender ?

  • @Skylight-nn9cl
    @Skylight-nn9cl 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ayo!?? Nah, I'm Subscribing.

  • @Indian_gae_boii
    @Indian_gae_boii 11 месяцев назад

    According to the aranara weapons, it was two of the moon who fought eachother, the third moon didn't fight at all and was just kinda sad throughout the event, so maybe theres a chance shes still alive and maybe its paimon?

  • @jollyhomse5129
    @jollyhomse5129 11 месяцев назад +4

    What are you saying essentially is very similar to the lore of lord of the mysteries, a very famous web novel in china it's actually crazy, i guess both parties take inspiration from the same chinese roots it's amazing, and i highly recommend reading it or searching it.

  • @iColm
    @iColm 11 месяцев назад +2

    The stone itself is created multiple ways, generally through interaction between two being caught as a product. The sect of philosophy is just philosophy and is somewhat unrelated to the stone. The stone does as suggested and has the power as a non visible spiritual item that can change the world around you. Creation defines possibility meaning not all do the same thing. Example one I know of changes time around the owner who has it in their brain. The other is more complicated as a marriage contract different than what we'd understand. The others are more simple and the contract is eating you to form in your body. They can keep shape or dissolve into something like blood. Furthermore if there is a host spirit it will stay with you. Alkahest can remove these but not easily.

  • @SHAW_777
    @SHAW_777 11 месяцев назад +3

    Incest is bad buttt.( damn I spitted my water through my nose).

  • @hanryo08
    @hanryo08 11 месяцев назад

    very amusing, u got a new subscriber

  • @kyoga5714
    @kyoga5714 11 месяцев назад +2

    "incest is bad" you say? do you also believe that water is wet? the sky is blue? 9/11 even.

    • @Infelious
      @Infelious 11 месяцев назад +1

      depends rich people don't seem to learn this obvious lesson, especially royals.

  • @Skylight-nn9cl
    @Skylight-nn9cl 11 месяцев назад +2

    Idk about that part invovling Dain and Paimon tbh. It kinda could work, but the fact that Paimon's name is so close to the Primordial One makes me believe otherwise. It is also possible that her name could just be a red herring, but still, the fact that she has the symbol on her outfit that means True/Real, basically the same meaning the word Genshin has, to me she is the Primordial One using the Traveler in some way to regain her full power.
    So Dain could possibly be talking about the Sustainer. We know that she is fading away. We may find out that she is corrupted due to the markings we saw on her arms, which is killing her, and will want to save her in the end.

    • @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt
      @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt 11 месяцев назад +2

      You are missing massive context to what the OP said in the video. There is a set of unreleased items (leaked since patch 1.2 I think) that essentially confirm Dain is either the Third Descender or someone heavily related to them. The OP already made two videos (the two recent theories) talking about all of the connections that Dain has with the Third Descender and it is actually mindblowing once you put it all into perspective.
      Although he never mentions the leaked items because... They are leaks I guess so he does not want to talk about them.

    • @Skylight-nn9cl
      @Skylight-nn9cl 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt Hmm, he's probably related, and not actually the 3rd. The 3rd descender is dead (as far as we can understand by what Skirk meant by "remains" in regards to the Gnosis). But what does what you said have to do with Paimon being or not being the PO? 🤔

    • @AndrewsMobs
      @AndrewsMobs 11 месяцев назад

      @@Skylight-nn9cl Paimon is affected by Irminsul so not a descender

  • @tuguldurdesu7274
    @tuguldurdesu7274 11 месяцев назад +4

    Omg yes

  • @phoenix221186
    @phoenix221186 11 месяцев назад

    Was waiting for the momment when he compares the abyss to Alabama 🤣🤣

  • @theorize999
    @theorize999 11 месяцев назад +8

    i usually like your videos a lot, I still liked this one but it was REALLY hard to follow, Some mind maps would have helped a lot on this one because of all the circular reasonings, I’m going to have to watch it a few times since this is one of my favorite genshin topics. merry christmas and thanks for all the hard work you clearly put into it! 🎉

  • @paraalemdossonhos7507
    @paraalemdossonhos7507 11 месяцев назад +3

    Well. That the goddess is the mother of the night is associated from the beginning of the game, where she and the Herrscher of void are counterparts. Being Kiana, all her versions of herrschers fit.
    I already commented in another video about the twins being incarnations of Phanes. As in the tale of the tree, it said that the king needed to repair the beams of the pavilion. Most likely he needed to sacrifice the Seelie to repair himself or even the moons after the war ( or the goddess betrayed her sisters possessed by the power of the abyss, killing one and the other disappearing).
    Deins didn't want to lose the Seelie and somehow Istaroth (rukadevata) taught him how to protect the Seelie. I don't think it's Paymon, the story about the tree suggests that something similar to what happened Nahida happened to Seelie and she is living a new sansara. Istaroth and Paymon fought against the goddess and Istaroth dies and is reborn as Rukadevata and Paymon just as Gouba is reduced.
    Maybe Phanes died and was reborn in the twins, Paymon is Lucifer's faithful demon: Phanes/Aether/Lumine, Eosphorus, Phosphorus, all similar names. Paymon is among the goddesses he served Phanes in a different way.

  • @munchielitten5961
    @munchielitten5961 Месяц назад

    They wont just date they will be bith be rulers to keep things intact and lumine may end up wacthing over as the shades of all teyvat including kheanriah and paimon may be the new rukkadevata

  • @BStone-bm9tw
    @BStone-bm9tw 11 месяцев назад

    Bro was cooking today 🗿

  • @Razor3000-u3f
    @Razor3000-u3f 3 месяца назад

    Hold on...then don't we have two types of marriage then? Red Queen & White King and White Queen & Red/Golden King? Or did I miss something?

  • @Tsukkiinnaart
    @Tsukkiinnaart 11 месяцев назад

    16:37 emotional damage 😀

  • @lumierremaria9460
    @lumierremaria9460 8 месяцев назад

    10:29 - 10:49 It runs in the family

  • @coca9152
    @coca9152 11 месяцев назад

    bro your pronunciations are PEAK

  • @voshadxgathic
    @voshadxgathic 11 месяцев назад

    Me who immediately knew this was going to be about a Lumine/Aether ship... Sigh. Bloody shippers gotta make it weird.
    Interesting note, while most of the world agrees that it is bad, there's still a few countries where it's perfectly legal, some completely, others with various restrictions. Of course, there's some overlap with anti-gay countries and certain acts, so there's actually more restrictions than might be mentioned in those particular laws. Some get strangely very specific in the details, which I suppose is good for legal clarification, but it makes one question how they drew the lines where they did.

  • @atsuyatakashi4832
    @atsuyatakashi4832 3 месяца назад

    Did you said diluc said cyno stole forbidden knowledge and cyno Said diluc is in relationship with abyss order

  • @bronyationstudios1166
    @bronyationstudios1166 11 месяцев назад +2

    I really like your theory videos: they are comprehensive and contain a lot of interesting information. But I wish you could keep a more uniform and "professional" tune of voice. When you get excited you begin to shout and it makes understanding what you speak much harder.

  • @maiafay
    @maiafay 11 месяцев назад

    Weren’t the moon sisters before Phanes? The timeline is very odd.

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  11 месяцев назад

      They are older than Morax. We have no clue if they are actually older than Phanes and tbh it is unlikely.

  • @Owudukan
    @Owudukan 11 месяцев назад +6

    " Incest is bad "
    The mcs are siblings and from greek mytholagy 🤡
    THIS COUD POSSABLE NOT GET IN ANY WIRD DIRACTION

    • @Pre4xes_
      @Pre4xes_ 9 месяцев назад

      Lmao
      Canon is greek mythology so why not in Genshin?🗿🗿

  • @munchielitten5961
    @munchielitten5961 Месяц назад

    So lumine is going to die just like narzkizkras so dain wants us to save her

  • @charroboo
    @charroboo 11 месяцев назад +4

    It's ok guys. We will get a free 4* skin of our choice in 4.4. so anything except the Diluc skin

  • @munchielitten5961
    @munchielitten5961 Месяц назад

    So could lumine not be aethers actual sibling and shes his adopted step sister and she can be dated???

  • @Tsukkiinnaart
    @Tsukkiinnaart 11 месяцев назад +2

    Sooo, we're going to marry paimon?

  • @brlinkiller
    @brlinkiller 11 месяцев назад

    24:32 LMAOOOOO

  • @sl1me489
    @sl1me489 11 месяцев назад +3

    I got a feeling Zhongli is the second descender....plus he is cursed by primordial one with the erosion and the first contract was to help defeat the third descender and he never tells anyone bout it and forgets it over time

  • @theotakuhub_7709
    @theotakuhub_7709 11 месяцев назад +4

    Hii

  • @beashemmad.sayson545
    @beashemmad.sayson545 11 месяцев назад

    Where is 16:36 from??

    • @Tiyac3
      @Tiyac3 11 месяцев назад

      Honkai impact I guess

  • @quad9238
    @quad9238 11 месяцев назад

    🗿 bro what...

  • @Kyosukedono
    @Kyosukedono 4 месяца назад

    What Genshin is about to the average person: A rip off gacha game of Breath of the Wild that call their Moblins "hillichurls"
    What Genshin is REALLY about: 9:10
    Also wincest and about a small white fairy wanting to marry a blonde hunk twice her size.
    GOD I love how much this game enrages twitter.

  • @nawawii3750
    @nawawii3750 11 месяцев назад

    Nyx is Dark Seele, not Kiana

  • @rsolyi1434
    @rsolyi1434 11 месяцев назад

    oh

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 11 месяцев назад

    : )

  • @ashleyandanime4815
    @ashleyandanime4815 11 месяцев назад +1

    Are people forgetting that Nahida said that the 1st descender is literally the sustainer????

    • @HELiXDzn123
      @HELiXDzn123 11 месяцев назад +2

      when??

    • @sMv-Afjal
      @sMv-Afjal 11 месяцев назад +2

      She, Nahida, siad it's her best guess that the first descender could be what we now knows aa the heavenly principle.

    • @HELiXDzn123
      @HELiXDzn123 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@sMv-Afjal heavenly principle not sustainer of heavenly principles very deliberate difference in wording, same way in which ei calls eternity the closest to the heavenly principles.

  • @Azzywrld224
    @Azzywrld224 11 месяцев назад +4

    Bro talks like a preacher and it’s so funny

  • @TNTboyz1997
    @TNTboyz1997 10 месяцев назад

    🤍❤🤍❤🤍

  • @rajaryan-fe1oy
    @rajaryan-fe1oy 11 месяцев назад

    Elvert Who?

  • @fat4eyes
    @fat4eyes 11 месяцев назад

    1 minute ago

  • @OneM0reUser
    @OneM0reUser 11 месяцев назад +6

    Incest is bad he said, but what if the little sister is stuck in a washing machine and asks big bro for help?

    • @salceds
      @salceds 11 месяцев назад

      Then you people are just annoying and cumbrained

  • @ballistic_1607
    @ballistic_1607 11 месяцев назад +2

    There’s no way the 3rd descender is dainsleaif lmao

    • @ionmariaskel6908
      @ionmariaskel6908 11 месяцев назад +10

      suit yourself then

    • @ShirouE
      @ShirouE 11 месяцев назад +8

      Have you seen the leaked volumes of the Pale Princess? Your comment is going to age terribly.

  • @apistogramma7370
    @apistogramma7370 11 месяцев назад

    There is no more arrogant and annoying theories crafter than this one, really...