That part of dvalin being given the anemo authority was mindblowing and actually makes sense. Venti being the god of freedom would definitely give the authority of names back to its original people since he would not want to use such powers to enslave them
For me, it makes no sense. Like that sounds to me like the one thing, any god that fears Celestia won't do. Like Orobashi was sentenced to death for simply reading a book. Imagine what happens to anyone that now effectively acts on it.. Also, there's the fact of what happens when the Tsaritsa finds out, because let's be real, surely she finds out eventually and when that happens, don't you think she's just gonna send another harbinger back to Mondstat.. Anyway, idk. I won't count any of this out because, anything is possible but given the fate of the vishaps thus far, to me it fully makes sense that the archons opt not to rock that particular boat.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanksyou completely omit one important detail in the narrative, Orobashi died **During** the Archon War. It is during the Archon War where Celestia are most active beside on the aftermath of the war with the Second Throne.
@@shycracker Why does that matter though.. Are you suggesting that they're inactive now? Because if so, then why would the current archons have any fear of them at all and why does Neuvillette and Apep speak of them as though they're active..
I think they’ll go their own way. My guess is that their goal will be; “There shall be no thrones, there shall be no crowns. For your fate is now in your own hands.” My reason is this: The keeper is fading away; the creator has not yet come. But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend. This is seen in the Traveler’s character details.
Would this mean that the Traveler will forge their own path, and side with no one? maybe the closest to a neutral faction would either be Dainsleif or the secret organization that Diluc is part of.
So far the evidence we have seems to indicate that everyone with any understanding of the dragons, seems to be on their side. Perhaps, with the exception of Zhongli and Nahida but even they, sympathise with the dragons. That said, I most definitely like the new path idea much more.
The Abyss may cause destruction, Celestia is definitely cruel, The Dragons will end up destroying humanity so. I’ll choose to side with either whatever Paimon’s faction is or the Fatui
I hope we side with the dragons, nothing against the Fatui (actually yes, because i think the traveler would skin dottore if they ever get the chance), but I really really want to see Dvalin again lol. (Also, the potential for Venti's 2000 IQ play is too fun to ignore. I imagine we won't get confirmation of that until Snezhnaya or Khaenri'ah, but it would be amazing, and explain why he didn't fight back.)
@@AndrewsMobs please dont tell me you believe the same person who was powerful enough to carry the inexperienced traveller across the sky fast enough to catch up to a dragon on a random fucking glider while also providing them elemental bullets remotely would fail to break a few cm of ice around his legs/blow away Signora if he actually wanted to?
Blowing a few winds to carry a human isn't that impressive lmao, it's the least we expect of a wind god. Jesus, Venti is like the most overhyped character ever. @@e554
As for Neuvillette lore-wise being the strongest PC, I hear there's a PC who can swallow all of Teyvat in one bite. A lot of people are having conniptions over that Ascension 6 Voice line of Neuvillette but it doesn't make sense to me that he'll see it. Are we to understand that getting Neuvillette to ascenscion 6 is now a plot point? Does that mean everyone gets a free copy of Neuvillette then? And does that free copy jump to level 81? What if you get him to level 81 now? Does that mean he doesn't need the gnosis since he's already stated he has restored his full power just using experience books, Mora and starfish? To me his ascension 6 means he can't require a gnosis to get to feel restored.
It could be why the tsaritsa has no love for her people : she has been disappointed by celestia and humanity, and by going through history se discovered the real source of power : the gnosis and brutal force. That's why she wants the gnosis : to give it back to the dragons and set up their new age. Pierro and his people might have joined form the basis of the enemy of my ennemy is my friend with a form of contract : "We give rise to the dragons but a part of land is lead by the humans without any other authority".
@@DragonMJE Love your vids but for the future please give spoiler warnings man. I just started chainsaw man and you just fucking dropped such a huge fucking spoiler without any warnings. Very shitty of you man...
Personally, I would join the dragons because I love Neuvillette. (I hope that the fatui are gathering the gnosis to give them to the dragons, cause this would propably be the best way to challange the gods, even though dragons lost once already.)
I thought about this too after just finishing the archon quest, but the dragons lost last time even when they had their king with them. Is the Fatui, and the traveller enough to tip the scales?.
@@tongga9368I think the main reason they lost is because when the primordial one arrived on teyvat he stole part of the dragon sovereigns power that is why they lost
Another thing regarding the dragons, Elynas let people kill them because they knew they were a threat and Durin didn't realise they were a threat at all, Durin thought they were dancing and not fighting
Maybe hoyo will let the players choose their own alliance/ ending. Then we could also play the other ending after we find out the outcome of our first choice. That would be cool.
The abyss is the least likely that the traveler sides with just based on every destroyed society weve encountered fell because of abyss corruption, Celestia only coming in with the nails when its too far gone to fix. Like even Deshrets kingdom didnt get purged meaning they managed to get things mostly under control just falling after Deshret died.
You certainly learned nothing from lore, of skipping large chunk of it. Later on you learn that they literally nuked anything that threatened them, not to heal.
@@barti560 You're the one who skipped lore, buddy. The divine nails were sent down by the Primordial One to heal the land after the devastation of the aftermath of the war between the Primordial One and The Second Who Came. It was sent down to suppress the corruption from forbidden knowledge brought to Teyvat by the Second Who Came. Unfortunately, the nails also had negative effects on other areas such as green, lush landscape turning into desert like Sumeru's Desert or turning into a snowy mountain like Dragonspine. Next time don't act smart when you don't know anything.
@@justcrap3703 now, open browser and search "Heed my warnings: seek not the Master of the Four Shades, and inquire not of the mysteries of the sky and the abyss." "Otherwise, as shown by the nail of retribution, certain calamity and sorrow shall follow." No need to thank me for pointing your half-baked lore reading. There are always more than one sides to the story. What you know is only a piece of lore. And it seems that you need to take your words back, thanks you. If you still didn't understand, Celestia most likely nuked anything they didn't want and went on 'Oh, its about healing. Yes'. While in truth, at most, it just held back some corruption and obliterated whole civilizations that weren't in the good graces of their Majesties. And yes, we do not know who won. First or second who came. And even if second who came won and resides in celestia now, then it would be ruled by the Second. And then its still trash. Changes anything? No. As of yet there is not even one slight sign that Traveler will ever want to side with Celestia. Ever. And after meeting Neuv these miserable nonexistent chances plunged even deeper into non-existence.
@@hriata168 Lore lovers know more than enough. Celestia are literally wiped out of list. Of course, nothing in Teyvat is light and dark-only gray of different shades, but even Abyss and Fatui seems fairly innocent compared to all bullsh1t celestia have done.
@_WASIYOthe dragons are straight up incapable of being archons, that was kind of the whole point of the war between the heavenly principles and the dragons, the gnosis’s themselves are stolen power from the dragons, if you gave the hydro gnosis to neuvillete for example he would just become a fully fledged dragon (and piss off celestia in the process likely), he explains as much himself in the 4.1 archon quest
@@pikazilla6405 yeah that might be the case but Tsaritsa was once called the God of Love for a reason. Maybe Celestia saw her as gentle and kind sovereign who loved humans so dearly thats why they let her have the Gnosis and rule as an archon. Maybe she started to change after Celestia started nuking civilizations and the cataclysm event being the last straw that broke her completely hence her infamous quote: “She is a god with no love left for her people, nor do they have left for her.” I mean what other reason is she collecting the Gnosis for? Either she plans to revive the other sovereigns or create a fake god who can defeat heavens principal.
Spoiler for friendship lvl7 Neuvillette😂 . . . . . . In teapot lines Neuvillette literally tells us - when you break free from the prison of the eggshell, "outside that world... I'll always be waiting for you".😂❤❤ how can we not side with this man. Everyone speaks about end of the journey but he s ready to stay with us.
Oh wow. That is so damn sweet. Even better than Zhongli’s line. Traveler won Neuvillette’s heart. ❤ I’m waiting though for sets for him before I invite him to the teapot. It feels weird otherwise just having him stand there, staring at me.
@@maiafay i made him a room with all fontain blueprints i could find that resemble his office 🙈😅 i really hope the fontaine teapot and sets come soon^^
I do agree with your theories and I can totally understand why you would prefer the dragons over the Fatui, however you said that the dragons did nothing bad "for the greater good" like the Fatui. Yes, that is correct. But when stating that you have to keep in mind, that the dragons have not yet begun doing anything against celestia, at least as far as we know. If the dragons start plotting and preparing to overthrow celestia, who is to say they will still strictly follow this no-harm-to-humans policy? What I'm saying is not that the dragons are evil or anything, far from it, but this comparison has the dragons and the Fatui in two different situations and should thus be regarded a little critical. But overall still great video and analysis!❤
Because Apep and Neuvillette already state that their war is not against the humans but the usurpers in the heavens above. The dragons have never been hostile to the humans without provocation. It was always the humans being the trigger, from beginning till now. However, I have a theory that somehow Celestia is in a power struggle with some of the gods, Phanes and the Shades. I think also that the Fatui are working with some of the Shades against Phanes and the current order.
I don’t think the Traveler will choose the side of their sibling. Our sibling told us to finish our journey. Well, while on our journey, we encounter several people- including the archons of each nation- and so far, NONE of them know who our twin is; meanwhile, the Traveler is making a name for themselves all across Teyvat. Either our twin kept a low profile or they took an entirely different journey across Teyvat. Was our twin even looking for us or were they just wandering around? I also think our twin had an entirely different experience, as their journey was interrupted after meeting Chlothar Alberich in Sumeru, then joined the side of the Abyss. It makes me wonder if our twin ever made it to Fontaine, and if they did, did they get around enough to discover that Neuvillette was the dragon Sovereign. Judging by the fact that no prominent figures in other nations know who our twin is, probably not. Ultimately, it looks like no matter what side is chosen, 3 of the 4 sides are all targeting Celestia.
Man why did you spoil chainsaw man ? You should have mentionned something else or put a spoiler warning for people like me who only follow the anime at least ? I like your videos but wasn't expecting such a big spoiler while watching genshin impact theory.
I agree, thankfully I’d read the manga recently but the fact there isn’t a warning rlly puts me off, if it’s any consolation there’s still a *lot* to be excited about in season 2 and it will 100% outshine season 1
Great video as always! It’s honestly interesting how a theory like, Venti gave Dvalin the real Gnosis now can be interpreted as him giving the authority and just giving away a husk to the Tsaritsa. If true, it could be the reason he uses magic on the Holy Lyre a scene before from a storytelling perspective.
Venti gave the authority not the real gnosis, or so the theory goes, but highly unlikely given the Harbinger would have definitely noticed something like that.
The thing is we dont actually know the "truth of teyvat", we dont know how it came to be, who created it, how the dragon sovereigns formed or even got to teyvat. All this is essential when it comes to making a decision. When I heard that the primodial one, took part of the power of the dragons to make the gnosis. It makes me wonder how were they just able to do that, click the fingers and some small portion of the power suddenly leave the dragons and go into making these gnosis? Why didnt they just take ALL the power of the dragons away if they had the power to take a portion? The dragon sovereigns are like batteries for elemental power, storing and concentrating one element or another. They throw the term usurper around a lot but that whole term comes into question for example if the priomordial one created teyvat in the first place, left for some time then came back to find the dragons in charge.
Also the enigmatic "dragon king" who brought forbidden knowledge into teyvat in the first place who are they? The "second who came" all but destroying the world just to tear the primordial one and it's creations away. All these are essential when it comes to deciding who to support and if you make that decision without all these background facts you'll be without a doubt making a BAD decision. And thats without knowing also who the members of the hexenzirkel or PAIMON really is because she is definitely someone special and always has been.
It probably was a nasty process that HoYoverse would have to censor or relegate to books or ancient tablets. They get away with a lot of dark shit using that method.
My theory in answer to this question is that, the dragons now make up Teyvat and it's structure almost in entirety. From what I understand of the Fontaine glider is that Teyvat wasn't a planet before, but a realm of elemental draconic beings, known as vishaps. Vishaps that functioned in a superorganism-like structure. Large Vishap Sovereigns which contained domains within themselves and subjects within those domains, their children, these subjects were sustained by the domains. My belief is that the domains/Sovereigns are sustained by the Honkai imaginary tree or by another domain linked to that tree, the Omni Sovereign. Basically, I think the Sovereigns are domains which Phanes conquered and made into Teyvat, with what I believe to be forbidden knowledge of some form, Forbidden Knowledge that might be what is known as "Void", "Honkai" or "Ruin". At least that's my theory. I know that the current story is that the 2nd Descender brought Forbidden Knowledge into Teyvat but I don't believe that that's the full story. I also believe that even Phanes is an advanced human that has transcended into a higher being, basically what beings in Teyvat call "gods".
14:32 CHAINSAW MAN SPOILER: dude you can’t just drop a chainsaw man spoiler like that on people lol. I’m caught up on the manga but anyone who’s just watching the anime should’ve had a warning
#TeamPaimon I don't think Celestia will be in opposition with the Dragons at the end of the game, if Celestia wanted they could have gotten rid of the dragons long ago but they didn't, the only reason they defeated the dragons and took their elemental authority was to ensure the safety of humanity. The only things that are a threat to Teyvat are the Abyss and whatever "Impact" may lie beyond the fake sky. If anything, the Dragon Sovereigns may need to help us restore Celestia to be able to defeat the ultimate bad guy.
@@vladimirvladislavovichtira804 Maybe the Second who came is some kind of harbinger for an otherworld antagonist to Celestia. Right now we know next to nothing about the Second, and Celestia appears to be in a dormant state.
If you know the theroy that the artifacts are based on phanes and the 4 shades, The flower of life, the plume of death, the sands of time, the goblet of space, and the circlet/crown of logic/reason This suggests that phanes is the god of logic and reason, so they must have good reason to do things
teyvat has 4 decender and all off them are hostile, 1 primordial one , 2 the second who came , 3 a god who declared the archon war and gave andrius godlike power, 4 traveler. and fatui know all of them, maybe fatui have a plot to save teyvat
@@seth-eh4fp I'm pretty sure we know nothing about the 3rd descender. The Archon War was engineered by Celestia to find the strongest "gods" to protect the people of Teyvat, since it's likely that Celestia was no longer able to be the sole protector of Teyvat.
We technicaly found our abyss sibling and she told us to continue traveling Teyvat and find the truth for ourselves, so that plot point is already half resolved. Guess who else is collecting the dragons authorities possibly without their understanding, yes it is Aether. I say Aether because we don't know how Lumine managed to get her powers back. One possibility is that she used the abyss to get back her powers unlike what Aether is doing now. Aether is using the light realm and Lumine the dark realm. There is a chance that the twins will fight one another.
Are you sure that "Half" ? How Hoyovese loves to write their stories, it may be just an interlude. I think that there will be fight at some point, but on the other hand, Caribert quest shown, that Aether and Lumine are interchangeable, but not Opposites (also there is a theory about cycling world of Teyvat... but that different topic...), so I think that in the end Lumine and Aether will unite. It is also quite a strange fact, that in the quest We will be Reunited, the Abyss Twin used the power of Blackish color, which is the power of the Abyss, but Forbidden Knowledge have reddish color, not black, but still, even after using the power of the Abyss, the Abyss Twin had a white-yellow Elemental color on clothing...
@@XelluseThe White Light on her clothing was their original power *Light* (Well That’s What I Think) Then the black/blue universal looking power that dain also had was *Abyssal* Power. Her things on her clothes were still white because abyssal power is *probably* not an element and just like a power that people can have, and usually only elements’ colors show up on the traveler’s outfit. What I’m trying to say is that she had her original power while using abyssal power. Her original power was *Light* so it was white like in the opening cutscene but she was also using the power of abyss, you get what I mean? They can harness endless amounts of energy and the power of elements Or maybe she just changed he element as soon as she got out of the abyssal teleport thing
@@Pre4xes_ That's exactly what I meant, also Traveler get this White Light when all Adeptus channel their elemental powers in him, also in the fight with Ei, when "ambitions" from people gave power to Traveler, so Abyssial Sibling or did not lost powers after the fight with Heavenly Principles or already returned them (Traveler also says in voicelines, that he is regaining his power back by taking power from statues), and most likely Abyssial sibling already finished journey and regained her power, while Abyssial power is the (and it looks very much like) - Quantum energy, s.c. Light looks very much like - Imaginary, but wtf are Red powers..... Btw, in some cutscenes Traveler uses all elements at the same time.
Some crazy theory. What if Traveler actually is dragon king Nibelung? Apep told, that Nibelung returned. Also it could explain strange descriptions in Traveler profile, like: The keeper is fading away; the creator has not yet come. But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend. Don't lose faith in that which you have lost. In this new world, you will never be alone. Where you leave your footprints, and where you have yet to stride - your new world will unfold before you. Welcome to a new world. The world you once knew is but dust, and the wonders you knew but rubble. Though you should have your own world, and your own people - lamenting what is already lost...
Very good idea you have there.👍 To be honest, I've been extremely nervous for days about what will happen in the end. It's definitely boring but I would be happy if we got a happy ending for everyone. I'm just having bad luck lately because everything I play, read and watch always ends with a bad ending.😂 I'm getting tired of it. The characters I met in Genshin all grew on me. If someone could die, I just wouldn't be able to handle it. And yes, I know it's a game. But it would still make me very sad. I just like everyone. Especially Khanriah's character. I especially liked Kaeya.😢 I hope nothing happens to him. Even if it doesn't look good... I really hope that I'm right and Kaeya makes the right decision and doesn't sacrifice himself. There has to be a solution to how you can have an epic fight at the end. But still everyone gets away with it. I mean we have so many at our side. This has to work.💙
Azhdaha the one that confuse me most. He is related to the vishaps but it was claimed he was an eternal elemental spirit, which is why he was sealed, but dragons are supposed to be killable... Did the english version translate things wrong maybe?
Azhdaha has the ability to see the memories of stone/minerals,(we dont know yet the full extent of his powers) but thats already crazy shit op. If he isn’t a Sovereign then he’s definitely NOT a normal vishap. (In Neuvillette’s story quest - the cutscene where it rained hard/down poured we could see him going through the past memories of fontainans, while it rained so he prob has an ability to see the past memories of people through rain, somewhat anyway.) Also another thing to consider is that according to Neuvillette, he succeded and became the current heier of the water sovereign. So, could any dragon have the potential to succeed and become a Sovereign? I mean, it kinda makes sense if any dragon can succeed the title of one. It’s like a direct parallell where any dragon can ascend to the throne whilst humans can’t. (At the moment)
He’s not a dragon just a Vishap. And when the dragons come back they regenerate as a human form first. Hense Neuvy. He reincarnated and that’s why he’s a human and doesn’t know all the history besides he doesn’t have his full power.
@@SammiSkulz Problem is that its like interchangeable in Genshin or atleast what the people think. So a serpent/vishap is technically a dragon. Also in real life mythology dragon seems to be a combination or description of a snake. The common distinction for a dragon and a vishap is that vishaps can’t fly while dragons can, is there any other more? (The 4.0 world quest about Anne and the play act also said something about Dragons I dont remember much though, but they implied that any giant beast could be considered a dragon. Again I dont remember but they said something about Dragons and Oceanids.) This is coming from me so its just random bullshit but I like to think of Vishaps and Serpents as subspecies and commonly categorised as a dragon because their both giant beasts.
Preface: I'm trying to be helpful to "My Name For Now" with this comment.... Not trying to troll. I didn't see a spoiler warning for Chainsaw man. I don't really care about that series (I'm just not big into that type of series, nothing against it). So it's fine with me. But I thought I should mention that you might want to put one, somewhere noticeable, to save grief later. I like your videos, though I rarely comment. And don't want to see the creators I like having any more harassment than they normally would. Also, maybe you put a warning that I am just missing somewhere, but I thought I should point it out.
I don't think Paimon represents celestia. The reason being her design is based on The Final Herrscher. She also has a Demon's Name like the Archons, but that is not a good thing that means she's on their side considering the role of The Final Herrscher. The Final Herrscher's role is to take all of the other Herrscher's powers and completely overthrow their authority because they had to have failed for The Final Herrscher to exist. Paimon might have a similar role. Her hairpin is The Stigmata of Finality which means she's likely stronger than every faction combined united against her. The Power of that Stigmata makes you a planet destroyer by default. The other Archons might know any hidden roles she has as well because they all know who she is ahead of time. She also does not hide any of this. She openly shows that Stigmata which means we might actually be threatening the Dragons and Archons by showing up with her. There is another thing too about Paimon though. Over the Travels she has basically become your sister. I don't believe the Traveler at the end will choose their original sibling over her. I think the Traveler will choose Paimon over all other sides. Which also means that they will ally with a little of everyone in the meantime. I think Paimon is going to be one of the last playable characters added to the game. Paimon might be a fallen angel. Not an angel. She might have goals she is aware of that you aren't. Just like the Traveler has knowledge that they tell no one. The traveler fully knows who they are, what their powers are, their origins, but they choose not to tell anyone even Paimon. We don't know what they told Paimon, but she is generally clueless whenever she learns info related to them that they hid. These are suspicious points because there is no reason to hide that info unless there is some kind of duty or title related to it. I suppose a lot of it there would also be no reason to tell without being asked as well though. I would side with Paimon no matter what, but I would also force Paimon to be on the side that involves not killing all of the characters I rolled for. xD
What if the ascension stones actually talk about the dragon sovereigns. Read the Hydro stone and connect it with Neuvillette final ascension voice line.
Nope those definitely talk about archons. "I must correct you." is definitely something Furina would say. Like how she says "I must remind you." at the end of Neuvillete's demo.
I'm with monseur Neuvillette. If the Archons decide to join us, it'll be much more formidable. Especially if Furina gives the gnosis to Neuvillette and help restoring Neuvillette back to his former glory. If not, then... as always, fuck celestia, fuck gods, fuck heavens above. We'll trample any celestia, heavens above, primordial one, 2nd usurpers, any archons who stand in our path.
Really, hard to say right now. There is still quite a bit of story that could yet throw some curve balls. You got all these factions but there is still the possibility the MC might not ultimately side with any of these factions. There could be some great big conflict in the end and the MC doesn't side with any faction directly and finds a way to make peace in some way. I don't see them siding with the Abyss order. I would not be surprised if they find some way to cure the cursed people of the Abyss order effectively doing away with that faction. The MC hates the Fatui though I expect that by the time we get their region the MC will do some things with them. The dragons will be involved but they could get their power back and still let the humans govern their on affairs much like how the Adeptus did Liyue. It could be a thing where they cure the Abyss order, the sibling is redeemed and they go off to catch up and have adventures again. We still have what two more full areas to play through. Could be any kinda plot twist put down on us. The one thing I do want to see is the whole map filled out end to end before the end.
The motifs of decaying in Teyvat: >Monstadt: Corruption >Liyue: Erosion >Inazuma: Filth/Defilement >Sumeru: Withering >Fontaine: Dissolving >Natlan: *still unknown, although possibility might represented by either snuffing/blown out as she supposed to be the most honest of all Archons and will tell everything about what happened during Cataclysm, not to mention that she's very hinted to be based of Murata Himeko of Honkai Impact from descriptions surrounding her, even her people of Natlan's attire resembles Himeko's very revealing outfits during early 2-3 years of Honkai Impact, although there's two living Himekos comebacks from alternate worlds from Honkai Star Rail's Himeko to recently the young ponytail Himeko recruited by Captain of Hyperion, but I'm going very far into the lores' rabbit hole of Mihoyo games lol* >Snezhnaya *Still unknown although possibly might be revolving around perpetual bifrost/blizzard bitterness associated with Cryo-Archon's lamenting Cataclysm of 500 years ago, which her own state from being goddess of love into relentlessly cold goddess in Shivada Jade Gemstone description, as she hinted to want to "burn away the old world"* (There's references of grown up Bronya Zaychik from future Honkai Impact's APHO stories to hints her being casted to "voiced Tsaritsa" in her game developing career, hinting the possibility of Tsaritsa model might be based of this iteration of Honkai Impact's Bronya, gotta pay Adam those "paychecks" lol) Each regions have their own elemental distortions affecting even the Archons, it seems for the most time, Celestia also being apathetic to these forms of distortions affecting living beings in Teyvat unless if there's something considered to be sinful by the decision/mechanism/consciousness of Celestia and their supposedly dwelling gods (despite Sumeru Archon quest mentioned about Celestia haven't been "awakened" yet as in talked in singular being too)
I feel you. After his farewell with Halfdan, I started feeling guilt and bad knowing we'll have to fight him as he states in "Travail" trailer. I wish and hope he can get a happy ending despite that. Kevin from Honkai Impact 3rd kind off did. No grand spoilers here.
I also hope that Dainslife gets a good ending. But this is coming from someone who likes happy endings more than tragic ones. Don't get me wrong, sad endings also have an impact. But the last few years I just wish I could see a happy ending. I'm especially worried about Kaeya. I've been maining him since I started. I've been there since Sumeru. So it's still pretty new. But I just took him into my heart. Personally, I believe 100% that he stands by us and makes the right decision. But I have a bad feeling that he is doing something very stupid and selfless. In which he sacrifices himself for the better. I really hope nothing happens to anyone.💙
if i had to guess, in version 6 we meet the tsaritsa in snezhnaya which is where we learn of her goals and origin converting us to join the fatui i believe in natlan we will meet the captain who shows us respect and instead seeks to get the gnosi through honest means like a duel for it. something crazy af is gonna happen in natlan (dunno what yet) but I think us, the archon, the captain, and potentially the dragon sovereign are gonna fight against it together. then coming to snezhnaya after getting a deeper connection and acquaintance with the archons, dragons, and fatui factions in natlan, will learn that the tsaritsa is sympathetic or was convinced by the cryo sovereign to rebel against celestia. revealing that their plan all along was to collect the gnosi so they could return the powers to the dragons. I believe at this point we will join the fatui and version 7 will be about freeing and helping the remaining sovereigns (i.e. releasing the electro sovereign, curing/saving the cryo sovereign) and returning their authorities to them, with version 8 being our assault on celestia, and version 9 being our confrontation with the abyss alongside whatever allies are left alive.
Inb4 Hoyoverse pulls a Lightfall and have version 8.0 let us journey to the dark sea to find an advanced civilization that somehow has the key to getting into Celestia while Teyvat is at war.
I see one issue with this: Fatui insignas and other their items as ascension material. If we ally with Fatui, then what will happen to characters that require those items?
Hmm, that's right. Then what about Childe and the other Fatuis that might become playable. It would be very strange if you attacked the others. I don't know how they could do that.💙 But I don't want to fight against Khaenri'ah and especially against Kaeya either. That's why I'm nervous all the time. Although it's still quite a while away.
I wonder why after the "we will be reunited" event we barely get any info about our sibling and what they are trying to do. We could easily have part 2 of the event but for some reason they think it's not really important and there is more important stuff to do than chasing sibling.
Because our sibling told us to complete our journey through teyvat first instead of chasing them and they will wait for us until then, so it's pointless to chase them anymore
@@eggi4443 Did you play act 2 of Fontaine archon quest ? If not spoiler alert.... After Navia talked to Neuvillete at her father's Grave, we talked to Neuvillete and there was a dialogue "about our sibling..", so we did ask.
Zhongli is an adeptus only taking on the form of a dragon. Note that the type of dragon he looks like is different to the other elemental dragons we've seen.
Azhdaha wasn't a dragon from the beginning, he was carved into the shape of a dragon by Zhongli, it's mentioned in the trailer that Azhdaha was just an earth spirit.
Something else to think about, the Dragon Lords are most likely the 'human' faction, the one where basically all the playable character are in. Neuvillette's whole thing is upholding justice, to the point of sending Childe to jail and giving us an actual charge for Meriopede instead of false one. Yet, at the end of Act IV, he says he's sorry for destroying the punishment, and so he believes the punishment is justice, because he has no anger, only sorrow. Then as you said, Dvalin and Azhdaha protect humanity, and it took a lot to get them to the states they were at to die. Apep just cares for the Usurpers, and is fine with humans being around, provided they leave him alone basically. The Fatui, we have no clue what they're endgame is, a new order with them ruling or something else. Abyss Order just wants destruction, and you see the Order attack the Nations regardless of their guilt. Celestia is maintaining the status quo, and from what we've seen of the status quo, provided they don't do a full on 'here's them actually being good the whole time' thing, that is not a good thing for humanity
Didn’t Neuvillette say that the only way the Sovereigns can reclaim their power/authority is if the Archon disappears (perhaps die)? Unless, he never considered an Archon would ever willingly hand the power of the gnosis over to the respective dragon sovereign (due to his philosophy on ‘the importance of one’s continued survival’). Then again, I’ve seen time and time again that the gnosis comes from Celestia, so would an Archon even have the ability to extract the power of the gnosis? Perhaps because Venti was originally an anemo sprite, *that* was the true power that was shared with Dvalin? But because I want the idea of Venti handing the authority over to Dvalin to be true, considering everything said in the video, perhaps that’s why Celestia is positioned over the area between Fontaine and Mondstadt???? Genshin lore is so exciting, I can’t wait to know more lol
Nice video, but immediately stopped when you starting spoiling the endings to others series with no warning and my guy, you have to cool it with the yelling 💀
their sibling..but i do think they are going to have a new goal as in not the traveler joining the abyss but the siblings finding a new thing...which is probably defeating celestia anyway but yeah
I have this feeling that Erosion have something to do with Mara, which appear in Star Rail. Both afflict beings with long lifespans and make them berserk. In Star rail, they say it has something to do with the buildup of memories and emotions. Which is weird for several reasons, no1 is that normally, memories naturally fade with time, human brains are made more to forget than to remember because we cannot handle the overload of information. no2 is that the Mara can alter a persons appearance, not quite making them look like monsters, but it can glue armor to the body...almost seemingly making it a part of the body...just how does memories do that? I could understand if it was just that the brain deteriorated and turned people feral but this is far more than that.
Mara is basically erosion + blessing from Yaoshi and she might have no impact on Teyvat. This blessing might be a factor influencing appearance change.
Traveler will definitely ultimately align with the dragons. I've been sensing it since Sumeru, and Fontaine is only cementing it for me and I couldn't be happier if that ends up being the case. As much as I like the Fatui, they are incredibly powerful but still in over their heads. The Tsaritsa is looking worse and worse the more we find out what type of monsters she tapped for her Harbingers. There's no way Traveler will be able to excuse it. I think in the end the ones who are still worth anything redemption-wise will have left for personal reasons, anyway. If they don't, they and the others will likely die, like Signora. (Personally I can't wait for Wanderer to get his hands on Dottore.) I also think Dainsleif is already working towards the Dragons being his allegiance although it seems unclear whether he has fully reached that conclusion for himself or not yet. Just my current theories.
It's not really ethical considerations regarding Tsaritsa's downfall, it's the fundemental dysfunction of harbringers as a whole. Ever since the traveller began their journey, harbringers have been falling apart one by one. Childe makes it clear that basically none of the other harbringers are actually loyal/care about the Tsaritsa's cause. Signora is dead, Wanderer erased himself from history, Dottore just wants to do his research, Money guy wants money etc etc. They're doomed to fail.
@@e554And the Rebels got the opportunity to put a descendant of the Previous Cryo Archon or Cryo Sovereign to rule fairly and the Tsaritsa's Identity and Information about our sibling will be revealed simultaneously.
I think dragon sovereigns are simply the strongest dragon aligned to the element in question. To me, strongest evidence is Zhongli. It is very likely that he is a dragon as that is the form he takes and he is confirmed to be an adeptus. As far as we know, adepti are pretty much immortal beings that are animal-like creatures capable of transforming into human form. Considering Zhongli or any other adepti has not showcased the ability to shapeshift to anything at will but only a human and animal form, it would make sense that Morax has 2 forms, just being the dragon and Zhongli. Zhongli has been around for 6000+ years, which means he would have witnessed the coming of the Primordial One and all that occurred thereafter. Him being a dragon would make sense why he is so powerful as apart from being a dragon, he actually had his geo authority this whole time and is a full fledged sovereign. Azhdaha who is the king of the geovishaps, still submit to Zhongli, what being other than the Geo Sovereign could be so powerful? Also, even though he says he is stepping down due to erosion, he shows no signs of it being the oldest known character in the game and if Apep is anything to go off of, beings not under Celestia such as the sovereigns, are not susceptible to erosion. So now why would he pose as a "usurper"? Well one reason could be to regain his full authority by winning the archon war. It is also theorized that the Primordial One actually lost to The Second Who Came and therefore the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles who seems to be in control of Celestia is not actually of the same faction that defeated the sovereigns. Therefore someone like Zhongli would actually have no issue aligning with them, until the cataclysm where it is evident that all of the archons lost respect for Celestia.
That reminds me one of divalins attacks are like Travelers burst it would make sense but then again if that is true then divalin might just be holding on to the authority as a vessel and pass it down to the actual dragon sovereign of anemo. In the near future there is a reason that we don't have a 2nd story quest for venti (zhongli story quest act 2 was about azdaha , nahidas act 2 was also about apep , though raiden shogun is still a special case because we haven't seen a single dragon related to inazuma even though beshops live there...... If neuvillette really gets the authority of hydro and still the hydro gnosis remains unchanged like how anemo gnosis was then this theory will be correct...
Despite the intelligence behind the analysis you did, and how interesting it was, I'm giving you a dislike, and for one main reason: If you're making a genshin theory video and wanna do comparisons with other series (like the Chainsaw Man Makima reference 14:33 ), PLEASE do at least a spoiler warning before including any clips or story bits. Honestly, seeing the Makima bit was a massive spoiler for me that I didn't see coming, and it ruined my enjoyment of the whole video.
Erosion is technically a legitimate concept. I presume it is based on a biological study about human brains, stating that the maximum memory capacity humans posess is for about 200-250 years, after which memory loss and corruption is guaranteed to start to occur. Zhongli, albeit not being "human" in the traditional sense, still has a biology of some sort, and as that study suggests, brains have a hard cap on how many years of memories they can contain. Zhongli and Azdaha being 4000+ years old will for sure put them over any superhuman limits they may have, ushering a loss of memories. In Genshin, it might not even be a biological limit, but more a "soul" limit, set in Irmunsul by Celestia, so they can avoid there being 'souls' with too much memories of past civilization ending events and such. That in turn makes the World Tree easier to maintain as it would require less manual intervention to delete undesired memories in the long run, since they will naturally deteriorate.
I never understood the "The story forgot about the abyss twin" take. We met them. We were reunited. But they told us that we have to travel through this world on our own = experience the seven nations and all their mysteries on our own. The Abyss twin met the Aranara, so we must too. The story could go the super short route and have Dain spoil EVERYTHING to us. But the "travel through this world on ur own" premise is allowing us to discover the seven nations. Learn about the gods, Kaenriah, the dragons. All secrets and lies of this world on our own. And thats the driving force for the story. Its not "must find my sibling asap".
I don't want to ally anyone. Just want to make peace in whole teyvat. Why we need another archon war in future if we just use our power to make peace and order.
I will side with the dragons. the sovereigns seems to be chill dvalin is best friends with venti azhdaha loved humans before his corruption. Apep is just a dragon tsundere at this point and here we have neuvillette a big old softie. Whats next flame sovereign himbo? And Cryo sovereign who loves ice fishing?
I think dvalin being a sovereign is feasible, after all, neuvillette himself was just the hydro dragon reincarnate. Surely the sovereigns have the power to atleast shapeshift, like how venti and zhongli does quite easily. with that logic, dvalin might just prefer to be a dragon instead of human form, and is the reincarnation of the anemo sovereign. Same goes with azhdaha since he has muuuch much much significance to Liyue's history, protecting the whole nation with zhongli, compared to other elemental beings like the adepti who did participatr in the wars, azhdaha is just on his own league. And also their level of consciousness is not common in elemental beings, only being present in very powerful elemental beings like the 4 winds, adepti, bosses (the electro bat, there are exceptions like the primo vishap which is just natural life that encountered special circumstances that made them that powerful, another is the electro seahorse and mushroom chicken. It's also if they had involvement with archons, because technically the Wenut is a descendant of Apep the dragon, but they're not dragon sovereigns and are just natural life, because they are being hunted by eremites). So i think there is a big chance they atleast are a reincarnation of the dragon sovereigns who happened to be found by the archons, because even Neuvillette came almost the same time as when Furina came alive, just after the war when focalors was chosen as the next archon.
I made a hypostasis that Dain may be Nibelung(the dragon king) or being possessed be him. This is because he know alot and seem to be very natural with the conflict. He said memory was fading which could mean his mind is being overriding. One quest mention he was holding a ring which people say has connection with the real life myth. By the event of the lore his body my not be the result of abyssal corruption but something else taking over his body. He seem to have a very knowable repertoire on everyone history maybe via leylines. Plus in the first trailer, he seem to want test you for some reason. If my Dain is Nibelung hypothesis is correct, than traveler would most likely side with the dragon. Although I am still lacking something to prove my hypothesis.
But we know who Dain is already? The Twilight Sword, Knight Captain of the Royal Guard. Full blooded, Khaenri’ah born guy. Hence why the curse doesn’t turn him into a Hilichurl like non-pure bloods. His memory fading is due to the curse- we received an explanation in the Caribert quest about how this works. Dain is literally a patriot fighting for his homeland to rid themselves of the abyss which ruined them.
and what if tsaritsa wants to gather the authorities to later give it back to dragons, thus siding with them? idk, it's just something i've been wondering about throughout the video
Dragons are like - there are a lot of different creatures livin' on my land, and now there are humans too ? OK.... I don't mind.... Also I want to add that Abyss Order is not Abyss itself, as we can see from creations of Gold, both Dragons Durin and Elynas were not "bad guys", they have seen things differently and Elynas do not even wants to be revived, cos knows that it will cause only problems for Humanity, also we can't be actually sure that Riftwolfs are really bad guys and do not see the world the way Durin and Elynas have seen before, but unlike that Dragons Riftwolfs are not intelligent enough to understand that they harm... And we know that Gold used some sort of "souls" from Abyss, so Abyss itself have some life in it and it does not look that it's intentionally hostile for Teyvat. Also Genshin loves to play with perspectives and Sinner also is not a bad guy from his perspective, so the same is for Order, like Ordo(Order) Narzissenkreuz (that most likely is an Allegory for an Abyss Order, as Genshin loves to play with allegories in its story), so their vision was - if we must face an Apocalypse, then we need to change and get prepared to survive it, so I think we will have some interactions and even some cooperation with Abyss Order too, but maybe to change their point of view. We had Alliance with Fatui in past, with Tartaglia, we even played their game, but still remain on opposite site for that moment, and even fight against 11th Harbinger in the end, to go our way, we even helped some Fatui officers, I mean, that circumstances will make alliances in Genshin, that alliances should not be permanent and can even change to conflict in the end to go back to natural again, so I think that Traveler will be allied with different factions, to introduce them, to show their visions and perspectives, before decision will be made.... Also we still do not know were is Teyvat and why sky is really a fake and what is beyond that Fake Sky - "new friend or a new storm ?"......
Yes, I hope you're right about that. To be honest, I don't really see total evil in all of them. Of course not all of them are good, but those who are have to be protected. No matter which side. Everyone just wants to have peace and be free in the end. And I think they all deserve it. Every character in Genshin deserves to live in peace. I see it that way. We will fight with Dainslif until he feels defeated. After all, he said that we have to fight against him and prove ourselves. And then we all rally together and defeat Celestia. Whoever is there will be judged just as Celestia was. Too many innocent people died and suffered. We defeat Celestia and free our twin. Then we will watch over the world while everyone can live in freedom. Or Paimon becomes stronger and has a heart of gold and she watches over Teyvat. We stop by Khanriah's to see if anyone else is there. I wonder if Anfortas is still alive, after all we don't know anything about his whereabouts. Whether he is dead or not. Time in Khanriah can work completely differently. Kaeya will come with you and help if there are any survivors. And then we find out the real truth. As Dainslif once said, “Only the winners tell the stories.” Those affected by the curse will live until they are redeemed (if they can no longer be helped) And Dainslif and Pierro live until they die peacefully. I just don't know how we'll deal with the truth of Teyvat once we find out. It's just a little theory of mine. And that only works if the Genshin manga is at least somewhat canon (which I don't know) But I feel like Celestia needs souls to keep Teyvat going. When Vanesse climbs up to Celesti and later comes out as a falcon, Venti said something like that the world is a little stronger now.💙
Personally i think the travellerwould choose to stand with paimon but not exactly for celestia. The dragons are way more likely like you explained and i am def not the only player that thinks "screw it all, i'll go with neuvillette - and morax" 😅🙈
If Ashikai watch this she will immediately making a 2 HOURS VENTI lore content that im not going to comprehend, just like any lore content. Im here just to immerse myself lmao
I really can't and don't see the Fatui as anti-heroes. They just so happen to be the enemy of our enemy, but they're by no means our friend. The Sovereigns should regain their position with Neuvillette as the new dragon king. He's not thrilled with the archons but doesn't want them dead, and wants different species to co-exist with each other in their natural forms. Teyvat went to shit when other species arrived. Let the dragons have their planet back and archons can just govern the nations as appointed by their respective Sovereign. Unfortunately, I don't think Neuvi is getting his dragonhood in Fontaine. His ascension line is too much of a spoiler while other parts of his profile are still quest locked with all quests and story quests done. Nor do I think Dvalin is the 'new' Anemo Sovereigns- the Sovereigns are born as Sovereigns. He's teeny tiny compared to Apep. Too old to be newly born too.
The whole theory around the arkhe was nice, until they gave us a sword that allows non-Fontainians to use an arkhe attack of their choice. How do you want to place the arkhe on those characters now that they made an in-game item that proves they can't have one ? People siding with the dragons isn't some "fresh in the mind" thing ? I don't think any of us would have sided with them when we discovered Apep, it's more because Neuvillette is kind and friendly, but we shouldn't let yourselves get fooled.
He didn't say "my authority". He said "one of the authorities". We have a lot of possibilities. 1. Childe has to do something significant in the plot (and I bet his second playable version will be our first abyssal playable). He may grab Zhongli's and hand it to Nuevillette with some plot that we don't know yet. 2. What happened to the electro gnosis after Wanderer didn't become a God? (Genuinely, did I miss something here?) 3. Nahida may hand hers to him because Tevyat needs him to have the power to judge the gods. Ya know wisdom girl things.
The traveler and paimon have gotten quite close in these later updates. I'd personally choose to save paimon or stick with her. If paimon for some reason has nothing to do with this, I wouldn't be able to choose. I need more information still!!! Especially about the cryo archon and what our sibling has to say. Also the whole reason of why humanity and teyvat was made. Too much to process right now with current info I know.
Don't get me wrong by any means.... But I feel like an absolute dunce when you explain the context of genshins story... I've been playing since release and dumped 100's if not 1000 dollars into my account and I've gotten nowhere near the level of understanding to the story the way you portray it. I absolutely love your content and your perspective. I feel like I'm so grounded in my own reality that peering into another is like a worm trying to learn quantum physics.
That part of dvalin being given the anemo authority was mindblowing and actually makes sense. Venti being the god of freedom would definitely give the authority of names back to its original people since he would not want to use such powers to enslave them
Haha mind "blowing"
Not to mention he can see into future
For me, it makes no sense. Like that sounds to me like the one thing, any god that fears Celestia won't do. Like Orobashi was sentenced to death for simply reading a book. Imagine what happens to anyone that now effectively acts on it..
Also, there's the fact of what happens when the Tsaritsa finds out, because let's be real, surely she finds out eventually and when that happens, don't you think she's just gonna send another harbinger back to Mondstat..
Anyway, idk. I won't count any of this out because, anything is possible but given the fate of the vishaps thus far, to me it fully makes sense that the archons opt not to rock that particular boat.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanksyou completely omit one important detail in the narrative, Orobashi died **During** the Archon War. It is during the Archon War where Celestia are most active beside on the aftermath of the war with the Second Throne.
@@shycracker Why does that matter though.. Are you suggesting that they're inactive now? Because if so, then why would the current archons have any fear of them at all and why does Neuvillette and Apep speak of them as though they're active..
I think they’ll go their own way. My guess is that their goal will be; “There shall be no thrones, there shall be no crowns. For your fate is now in your own hands.”
My reason is this: The keeper is fading away; the creator has not yet come. But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend. This is seen in the Traveler’s character details.
Would this mean that the Traveler will forge their own path, and side with no one? maybe the closest to a neutral faction would either be Dainsleif or the secret organization that Diluc is part of.
@@ziephel-6780 perhaps they’ll have most of the playable characters in their own faction.
So far the evidence we have seems to indicate that everyone with any understanding of the dragons, seems to be on their side. Perhaps, with the exception of Zhongli and Nahida but even they, sympathise with the dragons. That said, I most definitely like the new path idea much more.
Love this, I choose the Dragons….😊
I choose myself and will fight against all factions
@@1mol831traveler just doesn't give af and be one of themselves.
The Abyss may cause destruction, Celestia is definitely cruel, The Dragons will end up destroying humanity so.
I’ll choose to side with either whatever Paimon’s faction is or the Fatui
I hope we side with the dragons, nothing against the Fatui (actually yes, because i think the traveler would skin dottore if they ever get the chance), but I really really want to see Dvalin again lol.
(Also, the potential for Venti's 2000 IQ play is too fun to ignore. I imagine we won't get confirmation of that until Snezhnaya or Khaenri'ah, but it would be amazing, and explain why he didn't fight back.)
He did fight back but was too weak.
@@AndrewsMobs his hair didn't glow, so he didn't put much effort into fighting if he was at all.
It did. @@Error403HRD
@@AndrewsMobs please dont tell me you believe the same person who was powerful enough to carry the inexperienced traveller across the sky fast enough to catch up to a dragon on a random fucking glider while also providing them elemental bullets remotely would fail to break a few cm of ice around his legs/blow away Signora if he actually wanted to?
Blowing a few winds to carry a human isn't that impressive lmao, it's the least we expect of a wind god.
Jesus, Venti is like the most overhyped character ever. @@e554
your ending words reminds me the line in Honkai "may all the beauty be blessed"
After watching this, im changing my vote to the Abyss
You’ve got to check out the Fontaine glider text that just became available BIG LORE
You are so underrated... Hope your channel gets more subs😇
the video is great but why on earth would you spoil chainsaw man without any warning
What if, just what if Tsaritsa only wants the gnosis and not the authority within for her plan?
As for Neuvillette lore-wise being the strongest PC, I hear there's a PC who can swallow all of Teyvat in one bite.
A lot of people are having conniptions over that Ascension 6 Voice line of Neuvillette but it doesn't make sense to me that he'll see it. Are we to understand that getting Neuvillette to ascenscion 6 is now a plot point? Does that mean everyone gets a free copy of Neuvillette then? And does that free copy jump to level 81? What if you get him to level 81 now? Does that mean he doesn't need the gnosis since he's already stated he has restored his full power just using experience books, Mora and starfish?
To me his ascension 6 means he can't require a gnosis to get to feel restored.
That's just gameplay stuff, not sure why people think it's lore related.
The question is why wouldn't the dragons join the Fatui?
It could be why the tsaritsa has no love for her people : she has been disappointed by celestia and humanity, and by going through history se discovered the real source of power : the gnosis and brutal force. That's why she wants the gnosis : to give it back to the dragons and set up their new age. Pierro and his people might have joined form the basis of the enemy of my ennemy is my friend with a form of contract : "We give rise to the dragons but a part of land is lead by the humans without any other authority".
i see neuvillette, i click
Traveler is most likely to side with dragons &abyss or/and fatui. Imho
why the FUCK did i get a chainsaw man spoiler in a genshin video
Ofc, he's the prota
or the dreadfully wrong one 🎶
just because of what the Vishaps did to me in both overland and Abyss. I am choosing Celestia
This comment becomes funnier when I start imagining it as a scenario in my head 😂
@@DragonMJE Love your vids but for the future please give spoiler warnings man. I just started chainsaw man and you just fucking dropped such a huge fucking spoiler without any warnings. Very shitty of you man...
Inb4 Celestial enemies get added in Abyss and overland and is 20x more annoying and chunkier than Vishaps...
lmao
I've seen the secret ending. Traveler and Nahida convinces all parties to live peacefully and have a cake party!
Nahida can control minds, so like Kafka, she can just force everyone to "listen"
Personally, I would join the dragons because I love Neuvillette. (I hope that the fatui are gathering the gnosis to give them to the dragons, cause this would propably be the best way to challange the gods, even though dragons lost once already.)
Twice, Apep says they tried again using the power of the abyss and lost again. Celestia is no joke in power level.
@@GhostEmblemThat's why we need to salvage/sabotage it!
I thought about this too after just finishing the archon quest, but the dragons lost last time even when they had their king with them.
Is the Fatui, and the traveller enough to tip the scales?.
@@tongga9368I think the main reason they lost is because when the primordial one arrived on teyvat he stole part of the dragon sovereigns power that is why they lost
Another thing regarding the dragons, Elynas let people kill them because they knew they were a threat and Durin didn't realise they were a threat at all, Durin thought they were dancing and not fighting
ELYNAS AND DURIN ARE NOT ELEMENTAL DRAGONS BUT ABYSSAL IN NATURE. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. 🫂
Why did this make me laugh..
Maybe hoyo will let the players choose their own alliance/ ending. Then we could also play the other ending after we find out the outcome of our first choice. That would be cool.
I would love that
That would require thrice the amount of work, I don't think that will happen.
@@hikari9262 somehow i agree with youits hopium until its true and better not to expect too much
I wish. But such expectations from hoyoverse for me are down the drain lol
That would bel cool
The abyss is the least likely that the traveler sides with just based on every destroyed society weve encountered fell because of abyss corruption, Celestia only coming in with the nails when its too far gone to fix. Like even Deshrets kingdom didnt get purged meaning they managed to get things mostly under control just falling after Deshret died.
You certainly learned nothing from lore, of skipping large chunk of it. Later on you learn that they literally nuked anything that threatened them, not to heal.
@@barti560you also seem pretty biased in your opinion too as we don't know everything to even have an objective view on the matter
@@barti560 You're the one who skipped lore, buddy. The divine nails were sent down by the Primordial One to heal the land after the devastation of the aftermath of the war between the Primordial One and The Second Who Came. It was sent down to suppress the corruption from forbidden knowledge brought to Teyvat by the Second Who Came. Unfortunately, the nails also had negative effects on other areas such as green, lush landscape turning into desert like Sumeru's Desert or turning into a snowy mountain like Dragonspine. Next time don't act smart when you don't know anything.
@@justcrap3703 now, open browser and search "Heed my warnings: seek not the Master of the Four Shades, and inquire not of the mysteries of the sky and the abyss."
"Otherwise, as shown by the nail of retribution, certain calamity and sorrow shall follow."
No need to thank me for pointing your half-baked lore reading. There are always more than one sides to the story. What you know is only a piece of lore. And it seems that you need to take your words back, thanks you.
If you still didn't understand, Celestia most likely nuked anything they didn't want and went on 'Oh, its about healing. Yes'. While in truth, at most, it just held back some corruption and obliterated whole civilizations that weren't in the good graces of their Majesties. And yes, we do not know who won. First or second who came. And even if second who came won and resides in celestia now, then it would be ruled by the Second. And then its still trash. Changes anything? No. As of yet there is not even one slight sign that Traveler will ever want to side with Celestia. Ever. And after meeting Neuv these miserable nonexistent chances plunged even deeper into non-existence.
@@hriata168 Lore lovers know more than enough. Celestia are literally wiped out of list. Of course, nothing in Teyvat is light and dark-only gray of different shades, but even Abyss and Fatui seems fairly innocent compared to all bullsh1t celestia have done.
Neuvillette reclaiming the Hydro authority would just ruin Fatui's entire plan lmao I like to see that happen
He will
Or maybe that’s what fatui want. What if the leader of fatui is also a cryo dragon. I want nuvi to take the authority that would be epic.
@@ankushKM77pierro is from khaenri’ah so I highly doubt it
@_WASIYOthe dragons are straight up incapable of being archons, that was kind of the whole point of the war between the heavenly principles and the dragons, the gnosis’s themselves are stolen power from the dragons, if you gave the hydro gnosis to neuvillete for example he would just become a fully fledged dragon (and piss off celestia in the process likely), he explains as much himself in the 4.1 archon quest
@@pikazilla6405 yeah that might be the case but Tsaritsa was once called the God of Love for a reason. Maybe Celestia saw her as gentle and kind sovereign who loved humans so dearly thats why they let her have the Gnosis and rule as an archon. Maybe she started to change after Celestia started nuking civilizations and the cataclysm event being the last straw that broke her completely hence her infamous quote: “She is a god with no love left for her people, nor do they have left for her.” I mean what other reason is she collecting the Gnosis for? Either she plans to revive the other sovereigns or create a fake god who can defeat heavens principal.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT CHAINSAW MAN SPOILER OUT OF NOWHERE ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????
IM SO FUCKING MAD RIGHT NOW
Spoiler for friendship lvl7 Neuvillette😂
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In teapot lines Neuvillette literally tells us - when you break free from the prison of the eggshell, "outside that world... I'll always be waiting for you".😂❤❤ how can we not side with this man. Everyone speaks about end of the journey but he s ready to stay with us.
He is too precious to not choose
That voiceline is honestly the sweetest one I've ever heard (or I'm just biased because he is my favorite lol). I was surprised he would say that XD.
@@Newspaper.Ojisan😅
Oh wow. That is so damn sweet. Even better than Zhongli’s line. Traveler won Neuvillette’s heart. ❤ I’m waiting though for sets for him before I invite him to the teapot. It feels weird otherwise just having him stand there, staring at me.
@@maiafay i made him a room with all fontain blueprints i could find that resemble his office 🙈😅 i really hope the fontaine teapot and sets come soon^^
another banger by "my name for now" (are you actually planning to keep that as your name D:) 🥶
I do agree with your theories and I can totally understand why you would prefer the dragons over the Fatui, however you said that the dragons did nothing bad "for the greater good" like the Fatui. Yes, that is correct. But when stating that you have to keep in mind, that the dragons have not yet begun doing anything against celestia, at least as far as we know. If the dragons start plotting and preparing to overthrow celestia, who is to say they will still strictly follow this no-harm-to-humans policy?
What I'm saying is not that the dragons are evil or anything, far from it, but this comparison has the dragons and the Fatui in two different situations and should thus be regarded a little critical.
But overall still great video and analysis!❤
Because Apep and Neuvillette already state that their war is not against the humans but the usurpers in the heavens above. The dragons have never been hostile to the humans without provocation. It was always the humans being the trigger, from beginning till now.
However, I have a theory that somehow Celestia is in a power struggle with some of the gods, Phanes and the Shades. I think also that the Fatui are working with some of the Shades against Phanes and the current order.
I don’t think the Traveler will choose the side of their sibling.
Our sibling told us to finish our journey. Well, while on our journey, we encounter several people- including the archons of each nation- and so far, NONE of them know who our twin is; meanwhile, the Traveler is making a name for themselves all across Teyvat. Either our twin kept a low profile or they took an entirely different journey across Teyvat. Was our twin even looking for us or were they just wandering around?
I also think our twin had an entirely different experience, as their journey was interrupted after meeting Chlothar Alberich in Sumeru, then joined the side of the Abyss. It makes me wonder if our twin ever made it to Fontaine, and if they did, did they get around enough to discover that Neuvillette was the dragon Sovereign. Judging by the fact that no prominent figures in other nations know who our twin is, probably not.
Ultimately, it looks like no matter what side is chosen, 3 of the 4 sides are all targeting Celestia.
Man why did you spoil chainsaw man ? You should have mentionned something else or put a spoiler warning for people like me who only follow the anime at least ? I like your videos but wasn't expecting such a big spoiler while watching genshin impact theory.
I agree, thankfully I’d read the manga recently but the fact there isn’t a warning rlly puts me off, if it’s any consolation there’s still a *lot* to be excited about in season 2 and it will 100% outshine season 1
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Bro casually spoils Chainsaw Man in a genshin lore video.
Great video as always! It’s honestly interesting how a theory like, Venti gave Dvalin the real Gnosis now can be interpreted as him giving the authority and just giving away a husk to the Tsaritsa. If true, it could be the reason he uses magic on the Holy Lyre a scene before from a storytelling perspective.
Venti gave the authority not the real gnosis, or so the theory goes, but highly unlikely given the Harbinger would have definitely noticed something like that.
@@AndrewsMobswe will know in due time bruhh no need to rush
The thing is we dont actually know the "truth of teyvat", we dont know how it came to be, who created it, how the dragon sovereigns formed or even got to teyvat. All this is essential when it comes to making a decision.
When I heard that the primodial one, took part of the power of the dragons to make the gnosis. It makes me wonder how were they just able to do that, click the fingers and some small portion of the power suddenly leave the dragons and go into making these gnosis? Why didnt they just take ALL the power of the dragons away if they had the power to take a portion? The dragon sovereigns are like batteries for elemental power, storing and concentrating one element or another. They throw the term usurper around a lot but that whole term comes into question for example if the priomordial one created teyvat in the first place, left for some time then came back to find the dragons in charge.
Also the enigmatic "dragon king" who brought forbidden knowledge into teyvat in the first place who are they? The "second who came" all but destroying the world just to tear the primordial one and it's creations away. All these are essential when it comes to deciding who to support and if you make that decision without all these background facts you'll be without a doubt making a BAD decision. And thats without knowing also who the members of the hexenzirkel or PAIMON really is because she is definitely someone special and always has been.
It probably was a nasty process that HoYoverse would have to censor or relegate to books or ancient tablets. They get away with a lot of dark shit using that method.
My theory in answer to this question is that, the dragons now make up Teyvat and it's structure almost in entirety. From what I understand of the Fontaine glider is that Teyvat wasn't a planet before, but a realm of elemental draconic beings, known as vishaps. Vishaps that functioned in a superorganism-like structure. Large Vishap Sovereigns which contained domains within themselves and subjects within those domains, their children, these subjects were sustained by the domains. My belief is that the domains/Sovereigns are sustained by the Honkai imaginary tree or by another domain linked to that tree, the Omni Sovereign.
Basically, I think the Sovereigns are domains which Phanes conquered and made into Teyvat, with what I believe to be forbidden knowledge of some form, Forbidden Knowledge that might be what is known as "Void", "Honkai" or "Ruin". At least that's my theory. I know that the current story is that the 2nd Descender brought Forbidden Knowledge into Teyvat but I don't believe that that's the full story.
I also believe that even Phanes is an advanced human that has transcended into a higher being, basically what beings in Teyvat call "gods".
Sovereigns and Vishaps were already there.
14:32 CHAINSAW MAN SPOILER: dude you can’t just drop a chainsaw man spoiler like that on people lol. I’m caught up on the manga but anyone who’s just watching the anime should’ve had a warning
Thanks. I should have read the comments first 😭😂
you should remove the csm spoiler
#TeamPaimon
I don't think Celestia will be in opposition with the Dragons at the end of the game, if Celestia wanted they could have gotten rid of the dragons long ago but they didn't, the only reason they defeated the dragons and took their elemental authority was to ensure the safety of humanity.
The only things that are a threat to Teyvat are the Abyss and whatever "Impact" may lie beyond the fake sky.
If anything, the Dragon Sovereigns may need to help us restore Celestia to be able to defeat the ultimate bad guy.
The Second Throne of the Heavens or the Second Usurper.
@@vladimirvladislavovichtira804 Maybe the Second who came is some kind of harbinger for an otherworld antagonist to Celestia.
Right now we know next to nothing about the Second, and Celestia appears to be in a dormant state.
If you know the theroy that the artifacts are based on phanes and the 4 shades,
The flower of life, the plume of death, the sands of time, the goblet of space,
and the circlet/crown of logic/reason
This suggests that phanes is the god of logic and reason, so they must have good reason to do things
teyvat has 4 decender and all off them are hostile, 1 primordial one , 2 the second who came , 3 a god who declared the archon war and gave andrius godlike power, 4 traveler. and fatui know all of them, maybe fatui have a plot to save teyvat
@@seth-eh4fp I'm pretty sure we know nothing about the 3rd descender. The Archon War was engineered by Celestia to find the strongest "gods" to protect the people of Teyvat, since it's likely that Celestia was no longer able to be the sole protector of Teyvat.
We technicaly found our abyss sibling and she told us to continue traveling Teyvat and find the truth for ourselves, so that plot point is already half resolved.
Guess who else is collecting the dragons authorities possibly without their understanding, yes it is Aether. I say Aether because we don't know how Lumine managed to get her powers back. One possibility is that she used the abyss to get back her powers unlike what Aether is doing now. Aether is using the light realm and Lumine the dark realm.
There is a chance that the twins will fight one another.
Are you sure that "Half" ? How Hoyovese loves to write their stories, it may be just an interlude.
I think that there will be fight at some point, but on the other hand, Caribert quest shown, that Aether and Lumine are interchangeable, but not Opposites (also there is a theory about cycling world of Teyvat... but that different topic...), so I think that in the end Lumine and Aether will unite.
It is also quite a strange fact, that in the quest We will be Reunited, the Abyss Twin used the power of Blackish color, which is the power of the Abyss, but Forbidden Knowledge have reddish color, not black, but still, even after using the power of the Abyss, the Abyss Twin had a white-yellow Elemental color on clothing...
@@XelluseThe White Light on her clothing was their original power *Light* (Well That’s What I Think)
Then the black/blue universal looking power that dain also had was *Abyssal* Power. Her things on her clothes were still white because abyssal power is *probably* not an element and just like a power that people can have, and usually only elements’ colors show up on the traveler’s outfit. What I’m trying to say is that she had her original power while using abyssal power. Her original power was *Light* so it was white like in the opening cutscene but she was also using the power of abyss, you get what I mean?
They can harness endless amounts of energy and the power of elements
Or maybe she just changed he element as soon as she got out of the abyssal teleport thing
@@Pre4xes_ That's exactly what I meant, also Traveler get this White Light when all Adeptus channel their elemental powers in him, also in the fight with Ei, when "ambitions" from people gave power to Traveler, so Abyssial Sibling or did not lost powers after the fight with Heavenly Principles or already returned them (Traveler also says in voicelines, that he is regaining his power back by taking power from statues), and most likely Abyssial sibling already finished journey and regained her power, while Abyssial power is the (and it looks very much like) - Quantum energy, s.c. Light looks very much like - Imaginary, but wtf are Red powers.....
Btw, in some cutscenes Traveler uses all elements at the same time.
@@Xelluse they can switch elements at wil, like when he did in the childe boss fight and he also did it again in Navia’s story quest
Some crazy theory. What if Traveler actually is dragon king Nibelung?
Apep told, that Nibelung returned. Also it could explain strange descriptions in Traveler profile, like:
The keeper is fading away; the creator has not yet come.
But the world shall burn no more, for you shall ascend.
Don't lose faith in that which you have lost. In this new world, you will never be alone. Where you leave your footprints, and where you have yet to stride - your new world will unfold before you.
Welcome to a new world.
The world you once knew is but dust, and the wonders you knew but rubble. Though you should have your own world, and your own people - lamenting what is already lost...
Very good idea you have there.👍
To be honest, I've been extremely nervous for days about what will happen in the end.
It's definitely boring but I would be happy if we got a happy ending for everyone.
I'm just having bad luck lately because everything I play, read and watch always ends with a bad ending.😂
I'm getting tired of it.
The characters I met in Genshin all grew on me.
If someone could die, I just wouldn't be able to handle it.
And yes, I know it's a game.
But it would still make me very sad.
I just like everyone.
Especially Khanriah's character.
I especially liked Kaeya.😢
I hope nothing happens to him.
Even if it doesn't look good...
I really hope that I'm right and Kaeya makes the right decision and doesn't sacrifice himself.
There has to be a solution to how you can have an epic fight at the end.
But still everyone gets away with it.
I mean we have so many at our side.
This has to work.💙
Tbh, I think Azhdaha is all but confirmed to be a Dragon Sovereign considering his voice lines.
Azhdaha the one that confuse me most. He is related to the vishaps but it was claimed he was an eternal elemental spirit, which is why he was sealed, but dragons are supposed to be killable... Did the english version translate things wrong maybe?
Azhdaha has the ability to see the memories of stone/minerals,(we dont know yet the full extent of his powers) but thats already crazy shit op.
If he isn’t a Sovereign then he’s definitely NOT a normal vishap.
(In Neuvillette’s story quest - the cutscene where it rained hard/down poured we could see him going through the past memories of fontainans, while it rained so he prob has an ability to see the past memories of people through rain, somewhat anyway.)
Also another thing to consider is that according to Neuvillette, he succeded and became the current heier of the water sovereign. So, could any dragon have the potential to succeed and become a Sovereign?
I mean, it kinda makes sense if any dragon can succeed the title of one. It’s like a direct parallell where any dragon can ascend to the throne whilst humans can’t. (At the moment)
He’s not a dragon just a Vishap. And when the dragons come back they regenerate as a human form first. Hense Neuvy. He reincarnated and that’s why he’s a human and doesn’t know all the history besides he doesn’t have his full power.
Dvalin is also considered a Vishap.
@@SammiSkulz Problem is that its like interchangeable in Genshin or atleast what the people think.
So a serpent/vishap is technically a dragon.
Also in real life mythology dragon seems to be a combination or description of a snake.
The common distinction for a dragon and a vishap is that vishaps can’t fly while dragons can, is there any other more?
(The 4.0 world quest about Anne and the play act also said something about Dragons I dont remember much though, but they implied that any giant beast could be considered a dragon. Again I dont remember but they said something about Dragons and Oceanids.)
This is coming from me so its just random bullshit but I like to think of Vishaps and Serpents as subspecies and commonly categorised as a dragon because their both giant beasts.
Preface:
I'm trying to be helpful to "My Name For Now" with this comment.... Not trying to troll.
I didn't see a spoiler warning for Chainsaw man.
I don't really care about that series (I'm just not big into that type of series, nothing against it).
So it's fine with me.
But I thought I should mention that you might want to put one, somewhere noticeable, to save grief later.
I like your videos, though I rarely comment.
And don't want to see the creators I like having any more harassment than they normally would.
Also, maybe you put a warning that I am just missing somewhere, but I thought I should point it out.
11:28 HOLY $^%& I didn't notice this line until now, it is SO BADASS!!!
I don't think Paimon represents celestia. The reason being her design is based on The Final Herrscher. She also has a Demon's Name like the Archons, but that is not a good thing that means she's on their side considering the role of The Final Herrscher. The Final Herrscher's role is to take all of the other Herrscher's powers and completely overthrow their authority because they had to have failed for The Final Herrscher to exist. Paimon might have a similar role. Her hairpin is The Stigmata of Finality which means she's likely stronger than every faction combined united against her. The Power of that Stigmata makes you a planet destroyer by default. The other Archons might know any hidden roles she has as well because they all know who she is ahead of time. She also does not hide any of this. She openly shows that Stigmata which means we might actually be threatening the Dragons and Archons by showing up with her.
There is another thing too about Paimon though. Over the Travels she has basically become your sister. I don't believe the Traveler at the end will choose their original sibling over her. I think the Traveler will choose Paimon over all other sides. Which also means that they will ally with a little of everyone in the meantime. I think Paimon is going to be one of the last playable characters added to the game.
Paimon might be a fallen angel. Not an angel. She might have goals she is aware of that you aren't. Just like the Traveler has knowledge that they tell no one. The traveler fully knows who they are, what their powers are, their origins, but they choose not to tell anyone even Paimon. We don't know what they told Paimon, but she is generally clueless whenever she learns info related to them that they hid. These are suspicious points because there is no reason to hide that info unless there is some kind of duty or title related to it. I suppose a lot of it there would also be no reason to tell without being asked as well though.
I would side with Paimon no matter what, but I would also force Paimon to be on the side that involves not killing all of the characters I rolled for. xD
What if the ascension stones actually talk about the dragon sovereigns.
Read the Hydro stone and connect it with Neuvillette final ascension voice line.
your brain is massive
5head
I will double-check them.
Nope those definitely talk about archons.
"I must correct you." is definitely something Furina would say.
Like how she says "I must remind you." at the end of Neuvillete's demo.
@@lynchieOwO nah.
Awww, Chainsaw spoilers?! Didn't expect that.
I'm with monseur Neuvillette. If the Archons decide to join us, it'll be much more formidable. Especially if Furina gives the gnosis to Neuvillette and help restoring Neuvillette back to his former glory.
If not, then... as always, fuck celestia, fuck gods, fuck heavens above. We'll trample any celestia, heavens above, primordial one, 2nd usurpers, any archons who stand in our path.
Really, hard to say right now. There is still quite a bit of story that could yet throw some curve balls. You got all these factions but there is still the possibility the MC might not ultimately side with any of these factions. There could be some great big conflict in the end and the MC doesn't side with any faction directly and finds a way to make peace in some way. I don't see them siding with the Abyss order. I would not be surprised if they find some way to cure the cursed people of the Abyss order effectively doing away with that faction. The MC hates the Fatui though I expect that by the time we get their region the MC will do some things with them. The dragons will be involved but they could get their power back and still let the humans govern their on affairs much like how the Adeptus did Liyue. It could be a thing where they cure the Abyss order, the sibling is redeemed and they go off to catch up and have adventures again. We still have what two more full areas to play through. Could be any kinda plot twist put down on us.
The one thing I do want to see is the whole map filled out end to end before the end.
This is an amazing video... bit why did you have to drop that spoiler about Makima 😭 poor anime Onlys are gonna suffer
The motifs of decaying in Teyvat:
>Monstadt: Corruption
>Liyue: Erosion
>Inazuma: Filth/Defilement
>Sumeru: Withering
>Fontaine: Dissolving
>Natlan: *still unknown, although possibility might represented by either snuffing/blown out as she supposed to be the most honest of all Archons and will tell everything about what happened during Cataclysm, not to mention that she's very hinted to be based of Murata Himeko of Honkai Impact from descriptions surrounding her, even her people of Natlan's attire resembles Himeko's very revealing outfits during early 2-3 years of Honkai Impact, although there's two living Himekos comebacks from alternate worlds from Honkai Star Rail's Himeko to recently the young ponytail Himeko recruited by Captain of Hyperion, but I'm going very far into the lores' rabbit hole of Mihoyo games lol*
>Snezhnaya *Still unknown although possibly might be revolving around perpetual bifrost/blizzard bitterness associated with Cryo-Archon's lamenting Cataclysm of 500 years ago, which her own state from being goddess of love into relentlessly cold goddess in Shivada Jade Gemstone description, as she hinted to want to "burn away the old world"* (There's references of grown up Bronya Zaychik from future Honkai Impact's APHO stories to hints her being casted to "voiced Tsaritsa" in her game developing career, hinting the possibility of Tsaritsa model might be based of this iteration of Honkai Impact's Bronya, gotta pay Adam those "paychecks" lol)
Each regions have their own elemental distortions affecting even the Archons, it seems for the most time, Celestia also being apathetic to these forms of distortions affecting living beings in Teyvat unless if there's something considered to be sinful by the decision/mechanism/consciousness of Celestia and their supposedly dwelling gods (despite Sumeru Archon quest mentioned about Celestia haven't been "awakened" yet as in talked in singular being too)
This was an incredible read. I didn't even join these dots together until now.
>Khaenri'ah: Imminent Destruction. The balance of the world is at stake with the Khaenri'ahn civilization as Teyvat's Purgatory.
Bro just spoiled the whole story of Chainsaw Man in a Genshin lore video lol.
Still the part about Venti was amazing.
That was an asshole move to be honest, specially when the manga finally just gotten an anime 😡
In the end it doesn't matter, i will have Dainsleif at ANY COST. I will sell my soul if i must.
I feel you. After his farewell with Halfdan, I started feeling guilt and bad knowing we'll have to fight him as he states in "Travail" trailer. I wish and hope he can get a happy ending despite that.
Kevin from Honkai Impact 3rd kind off did. No grand spoilers here.
I also hope that Dainslife gets a good ending.
But this is coming from someone who likes happy endings more than tragic ones.
Don't get me wrong, sad endings also have an impact.
But the last few years I just wish I could see a happy ending.
I'm especially worried about Kaeya.
I've been maining him since I started.
I've been there since Sumeru.
So it's still pretty new.
But I just took him into my heart.
Personally, I believe 100% that he stands by us and makes the right decision.
But I have a bad feeling that he is doing something very stupid and selfless.
In which he sacrifices himself for the better.
I really hope nothing happens to anyone.💙
if i had to guess, in version 6 we meet the tsaritsa in snezhnaya which is where we learn of her goals and origin converting us to join the fatui
i believe in natlan we will meet the captain who shows us respect and instead seeks to get the gnosi through honest means like a duel for it. something crazy af is gonna happen in natlan (dunno what yet) but I think us, the archon, the captain, and potentially the dragon sovereign are gonna fight against it together.
then coming to snezhnaya after getting a deeper connection and acquaintance with the archons, dragons, and fatui factions in natlan, will learn that the tsaritsa is sympathetic or was convinced by the cryo sovereign to rebel against celestia.
revealing that their plan all along was to collect the gnosi so they could return the powers to the dragons.
I believe at this point we will join the fatui and version 7 will be about freeing and helping the remaining sovereigns (i.e. releasing the electro sovereign, curing/saving the cryo sovereign) and returning their authorities to them, with version 8 being our assault on celestia, and version 9 being our confrontation with the abyss alongside whatever allies are left alive.
Inb4 Hoyoverse pulls a Lightfall and have version 8.0 let us journey to the dark sea to find an advanced civilization that somehow has the key to getting into Celestia while Teyvat is at war.
I see one issue with this: Fatui insignas and other their items as ascension material. If we ally with Fatui, then what will happen to characters that require those items?
That's gameplay not lore related. @@Gnidel
Hmm, that's right.
Then what about Childe and the other Fatuis that might become playable.
It would be very strange if you attacked the others.
I don't know how they could do that.💙
But I don't want to fight against Khaenri'ah and especially against Kaeya either.
That's why I'm nervous all the time.
Although it's still quite a while away.
18:25 You would be surprised how many people need to hear and understand this.
I wonder why after the "we will be reunited" event we barely get any info about our sibling and what they are trying to do. We could easily have part 2 of the event but for some reason they think it's not really important and there is more important stuff to do than chasing sibling.
Because our sibling told us to complete our journey through teyvat first instead of chasing them and they will wait for us until then, so it's pointless to chase them anymore
@@ivymondal9663 is that why we didn't even try to ask neuvillette about our sibling?
@@eggi4443 Did you play act 2 of Fontaine archon quest ? If not spoiler alert....
After Navia talked to Neuvillete at her father's Grave, we talked to Neuvillete and there was a dialogue "about our sibling..", so we did ask.
The last few minutes of this video gave me major Kichiboushi flashbacks with Byemon and Spymon.
Bro why the CSM spoiler 😭😭
Zhongli is an adeptus only taking on the form of a dragon. Note that the type of dragon he looks like is different to the other elemental dragons we've seen.
Azhdaha wasn't a dragon from the beginning, he was carved into the shape of a dragon by Zhongli, it's mentioned in the trailer that Azhdaha was just an earth spirit.
ngl i forgot we were looking for our sibling in the first place
My name: dragons are the best option for the traveller
Me: 😌a man of culture 👍
I hope something big is gonna happen involving the abyss after finishing archon quest 👀
Something else to think about, the Dragon Lords are most likely the 'human' faction, the one where basically all the playable character are in. Neuvillette's whole thing is upholding justice, to the point of sending Childe to jail and giving us an actual charge for Meriopede instead of false one. Yet, at the end of Act IV, he says he's sorry for destroying the punishment, and so he believes the punishment is justice, because he has no anger, only sorrow.
Then as you said, Dvalin and Azhdaha protect humanity, and it took a lot to get them to the states they were at to die.
Apep just cares for the Usurpers, and is fine with humans being around, provided they leave him alone basically.
The Fatui, we have no clue what they're endgame is, a new order with them ruling or something else. Abyss Order just wants destruction, and you see the Order attack the Nations regardless of their guilt. Celestia is maintaining the status quo, and from what we've seen of the status quo, provided they don't do a full on 'here's them actually being good the whole time' thing, that is not a good thing for humanity
Didn’t Neuvillette say that the only way the Sovereigns can reclaim their power/authority is if the Archon disappears (perhaps die)? Unless, he never considered an Archon would ever willingly hand the power of the gnosis over to the respective dragon sovereign (due to his philosophy on ‘the importance of one’s continued survival’). Then again, I’ve seen time and time again that the gnosis comes from Celestia, so would an Archon even have the ability to extract the power of the gnosis? Perhaps because Venti was originally an anemo sprite, *that* was the true power that was shared with Dvalin?
But because I want the idea of Venti handing the authority over to Dvalin to be true, considering everything said in the video, perhaps that’s why Celestia is positioned over the area between Fontaine and Mondstadt???? Genshin lore is so exciting, I can’t wait to know more lol
Nice video, but immediately stopped when you starting spoiling the endings to others series with no warning and my guy, you have to cool it with the yelling 💀
Absolute banger. I would personally join Celestia if given the option. But I think the Dragons are going to be the way to go.
I wonder what happens to the sibling.
their sibling..but i do think they are going to have a new goal as in not the traveler joining the abyss but the siblings finding a new thing...which is probably defeating celestia anyway but yeah
I have this feeling that Erosion have something to do with Mara, which appear in Star Rail. Both afflict beings with long lifespans and make them berserk. In Star rail, they say it has something to do with the buildup of memories and emotions. Which is weird for several reasons, no1 is that normally, memories naturally fade with time, human brains are made more to forget than to remember because we cannot handle the overload of information. no2 is that the Mara can alter a persons appearance, not quite making them look like monsters, but it can glue armor to the body...almost seemingly making it a part of the body...just how does memories do that? I could understand if it was just that the brain deteriorated and turned people feral but this is far more than that.
Mara is basically erosion + blessing from Yaoshi and she might have no impact on Teyvat. This blessing might be a factor influencing appearance change.
Traveler will definitely ultimately align with the dragons. I've been sensing it since Sumeru, and Fontaine is only cementing it for me and I couldn't be happier if that ends up being the case. As much as I like the Fatui, they are incredibly powerful but still in over their heads. The Tsaritsa is looking worse and worse the more we find out what type of monsters she tapped for her Harbingers. There's no way Traveler will be able to excuse it. I think in the end the ones who are still worth anything redemption-wise will have left for personal reasons, anyway. If they don't, they and the others will likely die, like Signora. (Personally I can't wait for Wanderer to get his hands on Dottore.) I also think Dainsleif is already working towards the Dragons being his allegiance although it seems unclear whether he has fully reached that conclusion for himself or not yet. Just my current theories.
It's not really ethical considerations regarding Tsaritsa's downfall, it's the fundemental dysfunction of harbringers as a whole.
Ever since the traveller began their journey, harbringers have been falling apart one by one. Childe makes it clear that basically none of the other harbringers are actually loyal/care about the Tsaritsa's cause.
Signora is dead, Wanderer erased himself from history, Dottore just wants to do his research, Money guy wants money etc etc.
They're doomed to fail.
@@e554And the Rebels got the opportunity to put a descendant of the Previous Cryo Archon or Cryo Sovereign to rule fairly and the Tsaritsa's Identity and Information about our sibling will be revealed simultaneously.
I think dragon sovereigns are simply the strongest dragon aligned to the element in question. To me, strongest evidence is Zhongli. It is very likely that he is a dragon as that is the form he takes and he is confirmed to be an adeptus. As far as we know, adepti are pretty much immortal beings that are animal-like creatures capable of transforming into human form. Considering Zhongli or any other adepti has not showcased the ability to shapeshift to anything at will but only a human and animal form, it would make sense that Morax has 2 forms, just being the dragon and Zhongli. Zhongli has been around for 6000+ years, which means he would have witnessed the coming of the Primordial One and all that occurred thereafter. Him being a dragon would make sense why he is so powerful as apart from being a dragon, he actually had his geo authority this whole time and is a full fledged sovereign. Azhdaha who is the king of the geovishaps, still submit to Zhongli, what being other than the Geo Sovereign could be so powerful? Also, even though he says he is stepping down due to erosion, he shows no signs of it being the oldest known character in the game and if Apep is anything to go off of, beings not under Celestia such as the sovereigns, are not susceptible to erosion. So now why would he pose as a "usurper"? Well one reason could be to regain his full authority by winning the archon war. It is also theorized that the Primordial One actually lost to The Second Who Came and therefore the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles who seems to be in control of Celestia is not actually of the same faction that defeated the sovereigns. Therefore someone like Zhongli would actually have no issue aligning with them, until the cataclysm where it is evident that all of the archons lost respect for Celestia.
That reminds me one of divalins attacks are like Travelers burst it would make sense but then again if that is true then divalin might just be holding on to the authority as a vessel and pass it down to the actual dragon sovereign of anemo. In the near future there is a reason that we don't have a 2nd story quest for venti (zhongli story quest act 2 was about azdaha , nahidas act 2 was also about apep , though raiden shogun is still a special case because we haven't seen a single dragon related to inazuma even though beshops live there...... If neuvillette really gets the authority of hydro and still the hydro gnosis remains unchanged like how anemo gnosis was then this theory will be correct...
Despite the intelligence behind the analysis you did, and how interesting it was, I'm giving you a dislike, and for one main reason: If you're making a genshin theory video and wanna do comparisons with other series (like the Chainsaw Man Makima reference 14:33 ), PLEASE do at least a spoiler warning before including any clips or story bits. Honestly, seeing the Makima bit was a massive spoiler for me that I didn't see coming, and it ruined my enjoyment of the whole video.
Erosion is technically a legitimate concept. I presume it is based on a biological study about human brains, stating that the maximum memory capacity humans posess is for about 200-250 years, after which memory loss and corruption is guaranteed to start to occur. Zhongli, albeit not being "human" in the traditional sense, still has a biology of some sort, and as that study suggests, brains have a hard cap on how many years of memories they can contain. Zhongli and Azdaha being 4000+ years old will for sure put them over any superhuman limits they may have, ushering a loss of memories.
In Genshin, it might not even be a biological limit, but more a "soul" limit, set in Irmunsul by Celestia, so they can avoid there being 'souls' with too much memories of past civilization ending events and such. That in turn makes the World Tree easier to maintain as it would require less manual intervention to delete undesired memories in the long run, since they will naturally deteriorate.
14:30 You should have put a spoiler alert for people who aren't caught up with Chainsaw Man manga.
welp….all I can say is that I wasn’t prepared for that Chainsaw Man spoiler
Oh Duty 100% 😂 I mean maybe since we are the traveler maybe the last quests would be multiple choices quests !?
I hope so. Similar to HSR where our choice somewhat matter
I never understood the "The story forgot about the abyss twin" take. We met them. We were reunited. But they told us that we have to travel through this world on our own = experience the seven nations and all their mysteries on our own. The Abyss twin met the Aranara, so we must too. The story could go the super short route and have Dain spoil EVERYTHING to us. But the "travel through this world on ur own" premise is allowing us to discover the seven nations. Learn about the gods, Kaenriah, the dragons. All secrets and lies of this world on our own. And thats the driving force for the story. Its not "must find my sibling asap".
I don't want to ally anyone. Just want to make peace in whole teyvat. Why we need another archon war in future if we just use our power to make peace and order.
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I will side with the dragons. the sovereigns seems to be chill dvalin is best friends with venti azhdaha loved humans before his corruption. Apep is just a dragon tsundere at this point and here we have neuvillette a big old softie.
Whats next flame sovereign himbo?
And Cryo sovereign who loves ice fishing?
Cryo Sovereign has a Guardian though, like Apep after him/her. It's a Samurai/Knight themed.
I think dvalin being a sovereign is feasible, after all, neuvillette himself was just the hydro dragon reincarnate. Surely the sovereigns have the power to atleast shapeshift, like how venti and zhongli does quite easily. with that logic, dvalin might just prefer to be a dragon instead of human form, and is the reincarnation of the anemo sovereign. Same goes with azhdaha since he has muuuch much much significance to Liyue's history, protecting the whole nation with zhongli, compared to other elemental beings like the adepti who did participatr in the wars, azhdaha is just on his own league.
And also their level of consciousness is not common in elemental beings, only being present in very powerful elemental beings like the 4 winds, adepti, bosses (the electro bat, there are exceptions like the primo vishap which is just natural life that encountered special circumstances that made them that powerful, another is the electro seahorse and mushroom chicken. It's also if they had involvement with archons, because technically the Wenut is a descendant of Apep the dragon, but they're not dragon sovereigns and are just natural life, because they are being hunted by eremites).
So i think there is a big chance they atleast are a reincarnation of the dragon sovereigns who happened to be found by the archons, because even Neuvillette came almost the same time as when Furina came alive, just after the war when focalors was chosen as the next archon.
That thing with Venti and Dvalin just really solidifies how much I love those characters. Venti is so clever sometimes and man I just love him.
The chainsaw man spoiler wasn't necessary 💀
I made a hypostasis that Dain may be Nibelung(the dragon king) or being possessed be him.
This is because he know alot and seem to be very natural with the conflict. He said memory was fading which could mean his mind is being overriding.
One quest mention he was holding a ring which people say has connection with the real life myth. By the event of the lore his body my not be the result of abyssal corruption but something else taking over his body.
He seem to have a very knowable repertoire on everyone history maybe via leylines. Plus in the first trailer, he seem to want test you for some reason.
If my Dain is Nibelung hypothesis is correct, than traveler would most likely side with the dragon. Although I am still lacking something to prove my hypothesis.
No because Pierro has the same corruption.
But we know who Dain is already? The Twilight Sword, Knight Captain of the Royal Guard. Full blooded, Khaenri’ah born guy. Hence why the curse doesn’t turn him into a Hilichurl like non-pure bloods. His memory fading is due to the curse- we received an explanation in the Caribert quest about how this works. Dain is literally a patriot fighting for his homeland to rid themselves of the abyss which ruined them.
The Traveler already has 2 Fatui Harbingers on his side: Childe and Scaramoche... Arlecchino could be the next one... or not 😂
we will not side with anyone, they will side with us!
Why not abyss vs celestia vs fatui vs dragons vs traveller with sibling and Paimon who betrayed their factions
and what if tsaritsa wants to gather the authorities to later give it back to dragons, thus siding with them? idk, it's just something i've been wondering about throughout the video
Considering what a Gnosis is, it is very likely.
That chainsaw man spoiler caught me off guard...😢
oh my god i wasn't expecting this chainsaw man spoiler
Man casually spoilt chainsaw man
Traveler might be like: My sibling chose a side, and that just fucked up the world. Y’all are on your own, I got commissions to do.
Dragons are like - there are a lot of different creatures livin' on my land, and now there are humans too ? OK.... I don't mind....
Also I want to add that Abyss Order is not Abyss itself, as we can see from creations of Gold, both Dragons Durin and Elynas were not "bad guys", they have seen things differently and Elynas do not even wants to be revived, cos knows that it will cause only problems for Humanity, also we can't be actually sure that Riftwolfs are really bad guys and do not see the world the way Durin and Elynas have seen before, but unlike that Dragons Riftwolfs are not intelligent enough to understand that they harm... And we know that Gold used some sort of "souls" from Abyss, so Abyss itself have some life in it and it does not look that it's intentionally hostile for Teyvat.
Also Genshin loves to play with perspectives and Sinner also is not a bad guy from his perspective, so the same is for Order, like Ordo(Order) Narzissenkreuz (that most likely is an Allegory for an Abyss Order, as Genshin loves to play with allegories in its story), so their vision was - if we must face an Apocalypse, then we need to change and get prepared to survive it, so I think we will have some interactions and even some cooperation with Abyss Order too, but maybe to change their point of view. We had Alliance with Fatui in past, with Tartaglia, we even played their game, but still remain on opposite site for that moment, and even fight against 11th Harbinger in the end, to go our way, we even helped some Fatui officers, I mean, that circumstances will make alliances in Genshin, that alliances should not be permanent and can even change to conflict in the end to go back to natural again, so I think that Traveler will be allied with different factions, to introduce them, to show their visions and perspectives, before decision will be made.... Also we still do not know were is Teyvat and why sky is really a fake and what is beyond that Fake Sky - "new friend or a new storm ?"......
Yes, I hope you're right about that.
To be honest, I don't really see total evil in all of them.
Of course not all of them are good, but those who are have to be protected.
No matter which side.
Everyone just wants to have peace and be free in the end.
And I think they all deserve it.
Every character in Genshin deserves to live in peace.
I see it that way.
We will fight with Dainslif until he feels defeated.
After all, he said that we have to fight against him and prove ourselves.
And then we all rally together and defeat Celestia.
Whoever is there will be judged just as Celestia was.
Too many innocent people died and suffered.
We defeat Celestia and free our twin.
Then we will watch over the world while everyone can live in freedom.
Or Paimon becomes stronger and has a heart of gold and she watches over Teyvat.
We stop by Khanriah's to see if anyone else is there.
I wonder if Anfortas is still alive, after all we don't know anything about his whereabouts. Whether he is dead or not. Time in Khanriah can work completely differently.
Kaeya will come with you and help if there are any survivors.
And then we find out the real truth.
As Dainslif once said, “Only the winners tell the stories.”
Those affected by the curse will live until they are redeemed (if they can no longer be helped)
And Dainslif and Pierro live until they die peacefully.
I just don't know how we'll deal with the truth of Teyvat once we find out.
It's just a little theory of mine.
And that only works if the Genshin manga is at least somewhat canon (which I don't know)
But I feel like Celestia needs souls to keep Teyvat going.
When Vanesse climbs up to Celesti and later comes out as a falcon, Venti said something like that the world is a little stronger now.💙
Personally i think the travellerwould choose to stand with paimon but not exactly for celestia. The dragons are way more likely like you explained and i am def not the only player that thinks "screw it all, i'll go with neuvillette - and morax" 😅🙈
After finishing the 4.2 archon quest, everything i care about is destroying celestia. Everything else doesnt matter. GUYS LETS JOIN THE FATUI
If Ashikai watch this she will immediately making a 2 HOURS VENTI lore content that im not going to comprehend, just like any lore content. Im here just to immerse myself lmao
I really can't and don't see the Fatui as anti-heroes. They just so happen to be the enemy of our enemy, but they're by no means our friend.
The Sovereigns should regain their position with Neuvillette as the new dragon king. He's not thrilled with the archons but doesn't want them dead, and wants different species to co-exist with each other in their natural forms. Teyvat went to shit when other species arrived. Let the dragons have their planet back and archons can just govern the nations as appointed by their respective Sovereign.
Unfortunately, I don't think Neuvi is getting his dragonhood in Fontaine. His ascension line is too much of a spoiler while other parts of his profile are still quest locked with all quests and story quests done. Nor do I think Dvalin is the 'new' Anemo Sovereigns- the Sovereigns are born as Sovereigns. He's teeny tiny compared to Apep. Too old to be newly born too.
The whole theory around the arkhe was nice, until they gave us a sword that allows non-Fontainians to use an arkhe attack of their choice. How do you want to place the arkhe on those characters now that they made an in-game item that proves they can't have one ?
People siding with the dragons isn't some "fresh in the mind" thing ? I don't think any of us would have sided with them when we discovered Apep, it's more because Neuvillette is kind and friendly, but we shouldn't let yourselves get fooled.
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why choose between the dragons, the fatuis, and the abyss ?
the 3 have a common enemy, Celestia.
He didn't say "my authority". He said "one of the authorities". We have a lot of possibilities.
1. Childe has to do something significant in the plot (and I bet his second playable version will be our first abyssal playable). He may grab Zhongli's and hand it to Nuevillette with some plot that we don't know yet.
2. What happened to the electro gnosis after Wanderer didn't become a God? (Genuinely, did I miss something here?)
3. Nahida may hand hers to him because Tevyat needs him to have the power to judge the gods. Ya know wisdom girl things.
Didn't Nahida trade electro gnosis, so Dottore would destroy all of his copies? I think it was something like this.
@@Ilit015 I miss things because I play in Japanese and don't read good. But yeah, that is what happened.
The traveler and paimon have gotten quite close in these later updates. I'd personally choose to save paimon or stick with her.
If paimon for some reason has nothing to do with this, I wouldn't be able to choose. I need more information still!!! Especially about the cryo archon and what our sibling has to say. Also the whole reason of why humanity and teyvat was made. Too much to process right now with current info I know.
Don't get me wrong by any means.... But I feel like an absolute dunce when you explain the context of genshins story... I've been playing since release and dumped 100's if not 1000 dollars into my account and I've gotten nowhere near the level of understanding to the story the way you portray it. I absolutely love your content and your perspective. I feel like I'm so grounded in my own reality that peering into another is like a worm trying to learn quantum physics.