It is a Bizarro World where The Mass Murder, Rape and KIdnapping of Innocent Jews and others on October 7th, 2023 is a great Revolutiary Act. It is a Bizarro World when People keep a LIe that Israel is an Apartheid Country when Arab Citizens who lives there are given equal rights including the Rigtht to Vote. Where ARab are allowed to be Judges, Doctors and other Professions. I don't think Blacks were allowed to be Judges or Doctors in South Africa. I don't think Ta-Neshi and other Pro-Pals are protesting True Apartheid and Racial Discrimination in Saudi Arabia, Iran and other Muslim/Arab Countries. Only their Fundamentalist Muslim Religoin- Wahabi Island is allowed to be practiced there. Any other Religion like Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism even Liberals Versions of Islam like the Bahai Faith are not allowed there. The Bahais actually were persecuted in other Arab/Muslim Counties and fled their Persecution Emigrated to Israel where they are not persecuted. Also, more Jews were thrown out of Arab/Muslim Countries like Iran, Lebannon, Jordan, etc than the so called Palestinian were alledgedly thrown out of Israel.
@@thewkovacs316 Not really. The definition of apartheid is pretty clear, already. He's not making up his own definition. Two tiers of treatment in a country is pretty clear. We've been through that in America and arguably, it still exists here. It's just very obvious there. It was like that in other countries, too. None of this is unclear.
Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎If a State practice ▪︎Superior Race ideology,Dehumanization,Starvation,Gassing (White Phosphorus),Concentration Camps,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc ▪︎State is - Jewish or Nazi?
@@Dua1512important distinction. Although you could argue that any ethno-state (a state formed and delimited by a single ethnicity) is abhorrent. But certainly not the Jewish people. Just the political project of Israel.
@TravisRiver The distinction is important but not relevant to shielding the Jewish people in whose name all of this is done. The cry of Israel is that the country is the only Jewish state that must exist. Zionism is the far-right component of Jewish people who follow Judaism and who are happy to reap the benefits of oppressing in this case Palestinians, while disowning their moral obligation to be good neighbours.
Pray for Ta-nehisi Coates, his mainstream career is about to be challenged to the point that he may back track on what he says. But just know he’d only do it if it was a matter of life and death. You are a brave man!
You should post a RUclips video explaining your experience because many people think people are just talking and running their mouth. But you, as someone who physically lived there can tell the truth by experience about how bad it is over there
Even President Jimmy Carter shared Ta-Nehisi Coates POV. Almost to the word. There are videos of Carter declaring it’s worse than former South African apartheid in 2007. Why go after Coates for speaking his, the truth. I’ve ordered the book and will also appreciate that he wrote it for writers. 🙏🏾
And how was carter as a president? How was carter as an "intellectual"? Carter is a loon and was a disaster for the US. He is maybe one of the worst presidents we have ever had.
11:19 he hits the nail on the head with the comparison of the way White southerners defended Jim Crow. It's exactly how Israel supporters argue "how complex the situation is" or "you don't know the history" to deflect criticism of their regime.
It's not complex at all. The golden rule of "treat others the way you want to be treated yourself" is a very good starting point. There is a reason why it's one of the most universal value statement that you teach to children. Because it's easy to grasp. It's not difficult to see that the differential treatment of people, sometimes to an extreme extent, based on their faith or ethnicity is not right. Politics have simply complicated matters as a way to obfuscate the very simple question of _"why should Izrael exist as a nation that occupies a people and deny their basic human rights"_
It's only complex if you don't want to accept that settler colonial apartheid is wrong. Then you can teach an entire class in 20th century Palestine ethnic clashes.
I have followed this conflict for 45 years. It is not complicated. It starts with understanding that Israel is built on land stolen from the Palestinians. Everything else is commentary. After 1967, Israel could have chosen peace rather than expansionism. It chose expansion and has, ever since, set about taking everything it possibly can from the Palestinians, leaving them nothing at all. That is the heart of the conflict.
Okay, how about this... "The situation is not complex at all. Broadly speaking, the Gazans are evil. Not everyone, certainly, but a place where mothers train their sons to be 'martyrs' and kill Jews? To not just kill them, but to torture and rape and mutilate, and then call home screaming about what they have done to the Jews [I killed 10 Jews with my own hands!!!] Yup, pretty much evil. And the Israelis? Not perfect, certainly, but better and more moral, at least in the Western sense, than any of their neighbors." I don't care about the history, I don't care about "who started it," I don't care that everybody loves or hates the Jews. All I care about is that there are two sides in this mess. One side is the least bad, and the other is the worst bad.
Proud of Ta’Nehisi. He walks the walk. But surprised these journalists act as if the viewpoint is something radical, Pres Carter arrived at the very same conclusion in his 2006 book, Palestine:Peace not Apartheid.
He was screwered for it. The documentary "Man from Plains" chronicles his book tour for that book and you see how hostile the media was to him for daring to mention the unmentionable.
The American viewpoint is radical; Israel is the most hated country in the world; few people outside the US buy into the bullsh*t narratives and talking points about the Israel-Palestine Conflict that you find in American media and American politics.
Like he said in the book: Carter calls for a revitalization of the peace process based on the following three "key requirements": a. The security of Israel must be guaranteed ... This has never happened sadly.
Nelson Mandela said that Israel was an Apartheid state over 50 years ago and Bishop Desmond Tutu said that the Apartheid he saw in Gaza was worse than anything he had experienced in South Africa.
@@Stevef2022 Doesn't sound like he said that. But even if he did, that would make him wrong on the particular subject of Israel. If MLK said 2+2=5, we shouldn't get rid of our critical thinking and say he was right because he was a great man.
And Yet, the Jim Crow laws, and Segregation were implemented in southern states by Democrats. One fact Ta-Nehisi Coates leaves out. Republicans were in charge of the Northern States did not pass Segregation laws. Imagine that.
"my parents were locked in a concentration camp, my grandparents were killed in the holocaust. spare me your crocodile tears" i believe is how he started that interaction. it was a heavy one
Ah, no. Palestinian Arabs had their chance for a state of their own back in 1948 and they instead chose to become permanent enemies of Israel. Palestinians continue to live with hate in their heart and can't admit that they lost to a better equipped and organized people.
How sad when lies are so deeply ingrained that truth becomes a feared enemy to be annihilated. Defending lies has unleashed horrifying consequences in Palestine/Israel; Ta-Nehisi Coates' clarity and fearlessness are essential to dismantling, deconstructing them. edit: Thank you Mr. Coates for answering the question re: Israel's "right to exist." As he easily (and brilliantly) shows the question is meaningless.
If that were the case, then the world, and the U.N. would not recognize Israel's right to exist. But they do. It's the Palestinians that have the problem with Israel's right to exist. And apparently you. Thing is, when Israel no longer exists, neither will the world. That's what the bible says.
Ta-Nehisi Coates’ closing comments were so pointed, like a dagger at the heart. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is mainly about human beings’ tendency to turn the injustice and harm we experienced in the past into an obstacle to peace in the present moment. We do this in our personal relationships, and we do it in groups. We fear the past repeating itself. So we give ourselves license to do whatever it takes to forestall that. We use our history of suffering to justify our heartlessness in the present.
@@joge2468Privileged are those who live on the stolen lands of Palestinians while the most powerful countries on earth send you money, arms, and protect you. Privileged are those people who while possess some of the most powerful passports on earth (American, British, Canadian, Australian) still go and occupy other people's lands. Privileged are those that the American politicians fear their lobby.
He is a good writer. That doesn't make him a political scientist or an expert. In fact, good writers can be dangerous if they pair with ignorance. For example, Sayyid Qutb was a really really good and prolific writer, but his beliefs... that's a different story. Look him up, you'll see what I am getting at.
@@dixztube lol. I know. I don’t mean to make light of the fact, but as a kid I had several encounters with the IOF in the mid-late 80’s. I came to the US and spent the last 3 decades listening to the propaganda and I just can’t anymore 😂. I don’t even get angry now. It’s literally good vs stupid!!
Ta-Nehisi Coates begins the Israeli-Palestinian section of his new book, The Message, with a visit to Yad Vashem, the Holocaust museum in Jerusalem. The excursion, taken on the last day of his 10-day junket to the Palestine Festival of Literature, isn't meant to elicit sympathy for the Jewish people or offer context about the founding of Israel. Rather, it is a literary device used to accuse the Israelis of becoming the thing they most revile. You see the irony, of course. It's like unfurling one of those Israeli flags with a swastika painted on it - but in swirling prose. Indeed, The Message may well be the most beautifully crafted blood libel ever published. Each turn of phrase oozes with a loathing of the Jewish state. As with his previous work, history is a poetic truth in which white people are innately and inexorably evil - the Jew perhaps most of all. Coates, in fact, severs the Holocaust from Jewish history, as if this is within his power, noting that he sees "Yad Vashem at a distance from Israel itself" because of "echoes to white supremacy, colonial roots, its apartheid policies." Even a casual student of history knows this rendering of Zionism is absurdly juvenile. But it is his telling of the Palestinian plight that is criminally misleading. The Palestinians of The Message are uncannily peaceful, yearning to write poetry and plow the "sacred land" beneath their feet. Nowhere in his book, not once, does Coates bother mentioning "Hamas" despite writing it right after one of the largest massacres of Jews in history. Nowhere in his polemic about the Palestinian struggle does Coates type the words "Palestinian Liberation Organization" or "PLO" or "Fatah," much less "Hezbollah" or "Iran." "Yasser Arafat" wasn't important enough to make an appearance. Because Coates distances himself from the Holocaust, his readers will be blissfully unaware of the grand mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al Husseini, who personally implored Adolf Hitler to "burn" the Jews of Europe years before Israel ever existed. It would, no doubt, be a heavy lift for Coates to explain why Arab pogroms occurred with regularity before the "occupied territories" or "Nakba." The word "terrorist" makes one appearance in the entirety of The Message, and it is preceded by the word "Zionist." Coates spends his time lamenting the myths of 1948. Although Coates is unconcerned about the thousands of Palestinian murders of Jews, we learn about the fanatic Baruch Goldstein, who murdered 29 Palestinians at the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron in 1994. The Goldstein story is unintentionally useful . Anyone with a functioning moral compass immediately recognizes that Goldstein isn't a martyr of Israel, his actions denounced by virtually every Jewish organization in the world. To this day, on the other hand, the Palestinian Authority allocates monthly stipends to the families of hundreds of Baruch Goldsteins, reportedly to the tune of hundreds of millions.
This has been stated and confirmed many decades by prominent men like Mandela, bishop Tutu, President Carter (Apartheid in the Holy Land)and all the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. Black people like me who lived in the south KNOW that history and that FEELING.
You should also have sympathies for religious minorities in the Muslim world. They live under Islamic jim crow laws as second class citizens but you don't feel any pain for them?
@@siddave549 I dont think these people have any sympathies for anyone. Not even the palestinians. They only care that aligning themselves with the cause makes them feel like good people.
@@siddave549 I would to hear some cited examples of jim crow in Muslim countries. As far as i'm aware their is nothing akin to the West Bank or Gaza in any other nation
Israel is a land where the people are European, the land Palestinian & the tax base American. Thank you for this interview. Ta-nehisi Coates, I love your work! I grew up white in Jim Crow south Louisiana. I saw apartheid first hand. It shaped me to be an activist for civil rights & social justice.
What happened to the 900,000 Jews that lived in the Arab world? They were forced out of their homes and became refugees finding refuge in the state of Israel. That is ethnic cleansing.
Half of the Jewish population of Israel descends from Jews who were kicked of Muslim countries from 1947, lands where they had lived for millennia. They are not European. And those that are were refegees from Christian Europe, which had oppressed them time out of mind.
I've tour-guided several people in the West Bank, including Jewish friends. Believe me. It's not subtle. It hits you over the head immediately, and you can never un-see it again. The apartheid and the chillingly overt racism.
12:48: Coates put it eloquently; here's the REAL answer: "There are plenty of ethno-states around the world, but there is only ONE at the top of the list of being propped up by US taxpayers to the tune of billions of dollars, thanks to millions of dollars in lobbying."
so if america stopped being an ally to israel, then you'd leave them alone? I hope you're ready to cope with being blindsided by terror attacks on american soil
Propped up? US Aid to Izz amounts to exactly 15% of its defense budget. Those funds MUST BE SPENT exclusively on defense, and 85% MUST BE SPENT with US defense contractors. The list below is total GDP in the billions. The order is descending based on GDP per capita. You have the internet. Use it. Qatar: 235 Izz: 530 Cyprus: 27 UAE: 537 Kuwait: 184 Saudi Arabia: 1,011 Bahrain: 45 Oman: 109 Turkey: 1,114 Iraq : 283 Jordan: 50 Egypt: 469 Iran : 464 Lebanon: 25 Syria: 60 Yemen: 28
@@pqunit Calling out Israel's lack of humanity, decency and morality is "the root of all wars"? That literally makes no sense. Exactly what world view is "acceptable" to call out inhumanity and the dehumanization of all "other" ethnicities?
@@Gphilly819 Don't but KHAMAAAS the issue. You stated that calling out Israel's inhumanity and indecency and immorality is the root of all wars. WHY? I can criticize this crap government, I can criticize Chyna....but no one can call out Apartheid and War Crimes of Israel when we see them? Is that what you propose? Why? Is Israel some how immune to The Human Rights Declaration or the Geneva Convention?
Just because you're weak doesn't make you moral...the jihadists have been trying to wipe out Israel and have failed each time. I think it's time to recognise that Israel is here to stay
In July the International Court of Justice officially ruled that Israel is committing racial segregation & apartheid. It also said all states must stop providing any kind of assistance that allows Israel to prolong it's illegal occupation of Palestinian territories, these include the West Bank, Gaza & Golan Heights. The Democratic & Republican parties in supporting Israel with arms, trade agreements etc are supporting the contemporary equivalent of South African apartheid & US segregation. The black & brown faces that now exist in the highest levels of power, Harris, Obama, Lloyd Austin etc have got there not because support for racist, apartheid policies by the US have ended, but because they are willing to support racism & apartheid like their white supremacist predecessors. Same has happened in the UK with people like Rishi Sunak and David Lammy.
I am surprised that no one ever points out that even the colour of the roof is planned showing settlements versus Palestinian neighbourhoods for aerial surveillance and attack. The architecture of apartheid in the West Bank is fascinating (and profoundly demoralizing)
@@Sturgeon54 Nope. I will simply revel in your incompetence to be able to understand the difference between the west bank and gaza. Probably part of why you cant comprehend nuance and also your inept ability to follow the point or understand irony. happy thursday
@@Sturgeon54with Israel THERE AREN’T MISTAKES, everything is DONE WITH PURPOSE. Stop being a puppet and cut the strings. America has set a precedent and we still struggle with our sins because people refuse to SEE THE TRUTH AND ACCEPT ACCOUNTABILITY. We have a choice to what’s right or what’s easy, Americans has chosen to do what’s easy time and time again (and the world SUFFERS because we don’t have to courage to do what is RIGHT).
@@lovely-mk4rtsomeone doesnt pay attention. All you have to do is look at Israel funny to be called antisemitic or any other plethora of undeserved descriptors
The “complicated” aspects melt away once you look at Israel’s actions. In places without militants, soldiers protect settlers as they steal and re enact the pogroms they fled from, but instead they are perpetrators. All people, Arabs included, have a right to own land and property. Israel’s systematic thievery and destruction of farmland is what Americans are defending.
Funny, America is defending the exact thing it did to form its country. Soon Palestinians will be limited to the worst strips of land and they will be called "reservations"
They have no right to own land in a country that is not theirs. They can own land in the 23 other countries that are theirs. Inshallah the world will wake up to this deception.
They only use the argument of "it is complicated" to distract from the root cause of the problem, which is their stealing of lands with terror & killings and holding on to it with apartheid.
My parents were born in Jim Crow America…enough said. Thank you , so much for writing this book, it is moral for us human to be silent about this tragedy. We , must demand better of the U S government.
My parents were born in Jim Crow America also and I think he's wrong. But I have seen "two tiered" citizenship all over the Middle East. In fact it's more akin to indentured servitude to a homogeneous citizenry. But yeah tell us how the multiracial country is Jim Crow south.
It always blows my mind when I think about how the American Evangelical movement has given unconditional support for the state of Israel, even in it's treatment of Palestinian Christians, who happen to be the original Christians, who can track their orthodoxy and linage all the way back to Jesus. They are now supporting Israel in it's attempt to annex the West Bank and drive them out of the Holy Land.
Evangelical Christians belive as long as they support Israel in the second coming of Jesus peace be upon him they will be saved and for that they well through any one under the bus even their fellow Christians😢
"Immoral Apartheid Regime." He's right. It 's what Jimmy Carter said 20 + years ago. It's what I saw there. There are Israelis againt this, but t he are not strong enough to get rid of Netenyahu.
The West Bank is not Israel. Only visiting the West Bank will never give you a full picture about Israel, only about the occupation in that particular place.
@@lupen_rein Is Israel occupying the West Bank? Yes. Is Israel's actions preventing any political solution of the Palestinians? Yes. Is Israel's desire not to deal with the occupation driving violence and extremism in Gaza and the West Bank? Yes. So if you care about Israel and the Israeli people, why would you focus about the full picture of Israel and dismiss what's going on in the West Bank and Gaza? The full picture of Israel is threatened by Israel not addressing the Palestinian problem diplomatically. Long term, this could result in political and economic instability in Israel and the collapse of the Israeli state. We should do everything we can to prevent that, and it starts with addressing apartheid.
@jmhorange and conveniently, there's never ever been any reason to suspect that groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, who embrace their own deaths as martyrs in the holy purpose of riding the land of Jews, have anything to do with the current state of things. I wonder how many people reading this were even alive during the first Intifada. You might not be old enough to remember the campaign of suicide bombings that took place for years before that giant security wall went up. I guess history only matters when it suits a certain narrative 🤷
@@jmhorange Your second statement of Israel's occupation driving violence and extremism is an assumption that has been tested by Israel multiple times and they have paid with blood. Palestinians have a say in whether they resort to violence and extremism. I saw a video recently of a 24 yr old female engineer who admits that she has a good life in the west bank in a nice apartment who would see the Jews driven to the sea and will not stop fighting until that happens. It is not oppression that leads to the extremism. It is a culture and a national identity that sees its raison d'etre as the elimination of the Jewish state. Funny how westerners think they know more about the situation that the people who live it. Israel had 20k gazans coming into israel every day for work. They were working with the PA and BP to build a framework for the exploitation and security of the Gaza gas fields for the benefit of gazans. They were signing peace deals with their neighbors. Gazans were getting free treatment from Israeli hospitals. They were actually convincing people to send aid to Gaza. What more diplomatic efforts do you want? Even Hamas came out and bragged after oct 7 that they lulled israel into a false sense of security. That they made them think that diplomacy would work.That is why they had their guard down. Come on.
Isreal IS AMERICA. See what happens is that many folks FORGET and can't make the connection because the slickness associated with the sickness is done so smooth that the average person won't even catch it.
@@Evan-rm3zmUSA enables them. The rest of the world has been condemning isntreal for decades but America stands in the way preventing anybody or entity from taking action against them. “Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.” - John Sheehan
First watched and listened to him on Democracy Now. Good to see him interviewed on Amanpour & Company. First hand account of israel's apartheid and occupation of the Palestinian. Respect to Mr. Coates: to show empathy and humility to see and understand what is in front of him and speak out when atrocities happen.
This right here is a brave man who speaks from the heart, does his research, and its not afraid of the consequences of speaking the truth. This man is what the American ideal is, and it makes me sad to see that people like him, people with his courage are rarely to be found in the American media landscape.
I truly appreciate him for standing for what he believes!!! The elites won’t like this but I literally just purchased every book he ever wrote. I love ppl who speak truth to power definitely when they are in the same room!
I saw Mr. Coates on the Daily Show talking to Jon Stewart. It was a very insightful and deeply thought provoking discussion. It left me wanting to hear more.
Thank you to this channel for bringing on someone from mainstream American academia who isn't afraid of speaking the truth and saying it like it is. I wish him all the best in confronting the deluge of criticisms and cancellations that he is surely going to face. Thank you Michelle and Christiane.
Thank you for speaking ouf. I think we have all had our eyes opened by the events of the last year. As an American I feel betrayed by the unquestioned billions of dollars of support to Israel by the USA and the protection of Israel no matter what it does. One doesn't have to visit or spend a lot time in Israel to know it most certainly is an apartheid state. I'm ashamed that I didn't pay attention to the Palestinian plight sooner.
"One doesn't have to visit or spend a lot time in Israel to know it most certainly is an apartheid state." Statements like these show the idiotic world we live in. Listen to experts, not some beautiful prose-wiedling writer who pretends to be an expert, even though he didn't even properly visit Israel proper and its 2 million non-Jewish citizens with equal rights, representation in parliament, the media, the justice system and more.
@@lupen_rein you don’t have to spend a month in Israel to understand what type of society sends IDF soldiers to escort extremist settlers into Palestinian villages to destroy their homes and crops
@@lupen_reinone question: Even though you seem to disagree with his conclusion: that it’s apartheid: Does he lie or distort the truth in any of his examples which he base his claims of apartheid on? And that case which ones?
@@MrCph2200 The term Apartheid is a mischievous one. It is meant to delegitimize Israel. Apartheid is race based discrimination. Whatever issues the Palestinians have, Arab Israelis are not subject to the same experience. In Apartheid SA, the whites did it to maintain racial dominance. Israel maintains that its actions are because of legitimate security concerns. People like you and others like to pretend as if they are hallucinating these security concerns despite having lost thousands to terror attacks and other things. When you dont have 24 year old palestinian engineers who admit they live a good life in the west bank longing for the day the Jews disappear, then you will have peace.
He is so brave! I am just back from Northern Ireland and then traveling in the mid Ireland. Same thing. Occupation. Racism. Only moderately attended to at this time.
Are you seriously comparing Israeli apartheid to Northern Ireland. I know the about the peace lines, which might remind one of the separation wall in the West Bank or Gaza. Hopefully Ireland will be unified soon, and Palestine will be free.
Excellent interview! Good questions. Ta-Nahisi responded with powerful, truthful answers, sugar-coating absolutely nothing. My highest respect to Ta-Nahisi Coates. Despite his valid human fears, he steps forward straight into the fire to defend human rights for all, setting a brilliant example for others. Thank you.!
I went to philadelphia on a trip that only took me to the areas with fentynal zombies. I write a book talking about how Philadelphia is lost and there is no reason to go there. I see no other side of the place other than the most desolate and intentional block my view of the good. Wouldn't everyone assume I was a propagandist or a moron? Why does this black panther clown get away with this nonsense?
I’m sorry Coates has to deal with such openly hostile interviewers. He did an amazing job despite how clearly uncomfortable the interviewer was with presenting Isreal as anything but good.
@@perlenbob how many times did he use the word racism in this interview? It’s like an idea permanently imprinted on his head. I have yet to see him comment on the concepts of Abeed and Arab Imperialism.
@@Stevef2022 Is this a joke? Maybe he should focus on the Ethiopian Jews that were given birth control injections without their knowledge, or generally the treatment of black Jews in Israel. Or maybe he should focus on the practice of metzitzah? What’s your point? Educated black men, really seem to hurt white Americans and zionists for some reason.
I sensed a real bias of the host towards Israel in the questions she asked. But Coates responded beautifully. This is the second time I’ve seen this host interview someone on the Palestine issue with this kind of bias.
20 years ago i shared an apartment with an ex military guy from isreal called Ori. This was in china Nani. What this guy told me about how the handle the Palestinian.. i was shocked. He was really sad about the situation but nothing he could do. He said one Saturday morning. When im here i don't have to worry like when im back home. Sad situation
We're living in a bizarro world where someone as brilliant as Ta-Nehisi has to defend the concept that apartheid is bad.
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If in a World
▪︎Imposing Apartheid - Democratic
▪︎Opposing Apartheid - Terrorism
▪︎Civilized World or Dystopian World?
The greatest statesman in the world, Nelsen Mandela, was called a terrorist by the American and British governments.
It is a Bizarro World where The Mass Murder, Rape and KIdnapping of Innocent Jews and others on October 7th, 2023 is a great Revolutiary Act. It is a Bizarro World when People keep a LIe that Israel is an Apartheid Country when Arab Citizens who lives there are given equal rights including the Rigtht to Vote. Where ARab are allowed to be Judges, Doctors and other Professions. I don't think Blacks were allowed to be Judges or Doctors in South Africa.
I don't think Ta-Neshi and other Pro-Pals are protesting True Apartheid and Racial Discrimination in Saudi Arabia, Iran and other Muslim/Arab Countries. Only their Fundamentalist Muslim Religoin- Wahabi Island is allowed to be practiced there. Any other Religion like Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism even Liberals Versions of Islam like the Bahai Faith are not allowed there.
The Bahais actually were persecuted in other Arab/Muslim Counties and fled their Persecution Emigrated to Israel where they are not persecuted. Also, more Jews were thrown out of Arab/Muslim Countries like Iran, Lebannon, Jordan, etc than the so called Palestinian were alledgedly thrown out of Israel.
he has to defend his definition of apartheid
@@thewkovacs316 Not really. The definition of apartheid is pretty clear, already. He's not making up his own definition. Two tiers of treatment in a country is pretty clear. We've been through that in America and arguably, it still exists here. It's just very obvious there. It was like that in other countries, too. None of this is unclear.
This made me cry. These were good questions asked in good faith that show that he has no hateful intentions and just a clear moral compass.
Mind Begs the Question:
▪︎If a State practice
▪︎Superior Race ideology,Dehumanization,Starvation,Gassing (White Phosphorus),Concentration Camps,Pogroms,Ethnic Cleansing,etc
▪︎State is - Jewish or Nazi?
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeingsZionist or Nazi... Not Jewish or Nazi
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBein none. More like Arabic colonists
@@Dua1512important distinction. Although you could argue that any ethno-state (a state formed and delimited by a single ethnicity) is abhorrent. But certainly not the Jewish people. Just the political project of Israel.
@TravisRiver The distinction is important but not relevant to shielding the Jewish people in whose name all of this is done. The cry of Israel is that the country is the only Jewish state that must exist. Zionism is the far-right component of Jewish people who follow Judaism and who are happy to reap the benefits of oppressing in this case Palestinians, while disowning their moral obligation to be good neighbours.
Pray for Ta-nehisi Coates, his mainstream career is about to be challenged to the point that he may back track on what he says. But just know he’d only do it if it was a matter of life and death.
You are a brave man!
I think this book should win him a Nobel peace prize, plus it’s just really good I hope you get the chance to read it
REAL MEN NEVER BACKTRACK, EVEN IF IT MEANS DEATH
There’s only one true cancel culture, and that’s when Israel is being criticized.
@@conscious258 You say so only because you've never been in such situation.
He can't deny what he saw, just like we cant deny what we have seen happen in Gaza
I lived in the West Bank and East Jerusalem for three months, and I came to the exact same conclusions that Ta-Nehisi Coates came to.
You should post a RUclips video explaining your experience because many people think people are just talking and running their mouth. But you, as someone who physically lived there can tell the truth by experience about how bad it is over there
@@jamesbroomfield7799 Hmmm, good idea, but I don't have decent camera equipment.
Allah bless you brother I’m from Jerusalem.
Ya, where did you live?
@@MahmoudWaz I lived for a short time in a guest house on the grounds of the Augusta Victoria Hospital on Jabal az-Zaytun.
So much respect for this man and the courage to write this book ❤
Even President Jimmy Carter shared Ta-Nehisi Coates POV. Almost to the word. There are videos of Carter declaring it’s worse than former South African apartheid in 2007. Why go after Coates for speaking his, the truth. I’ve ordered the book and will also appreciate that he wrote it for writers. 🙏🏾
You have no idea whatsoever about what prompted and brought South Africa's apartheid system in the first place you utter plum 🙄
And how was carter as a president? How was carter as an "intellectual"? Carter is a loon and was a disaster for the US. He is maybe one of the worst presidents we have ever had.
11:19 he hits the nail on the head with the comparison of the way White southerners defended Jim Crow. It's exactly how Israel supporters argue "how complex the situation is" or "you don't know the history" to deflect criticism of their regime.
It's not complex at all. The golden rule of "treat others the way you want to be treated yourself" is a very good starting point. There is a reason why it's one of the most universal value statement that you teach to children. Because it's easy to grasp. It's not difficult to see that the differential treatment of people, sometimes to an extreme extent, based on their faith or ethnicity is not right.
Politics have simply complicated matters as a way to obfuscate the very simple question of _"why should Izrael exist as a nation that occupies a people and deny their basic human rights"_
It's only complex if you don't want to accept that settler colonial apartheid is wrong. Then you can teach an entire class in 20th century Palestine ethnic clashes.
I have followed this conflict for 45 years. It is not complicated. It starts with understanding that Israel is built on land stolen from the Palestinians. Everything else is commentary. After 1967, Israel could have chosen peace rather than expansionism. It chose expansion and has, ever since, set about taking everything it possibly can from the Palestinians, leaving them nothing at all. That is the heart of the conflict.
It's not complex at all.
Okay, how about this... "The situation is not complex at all. Broadly speaking, the Gazans are evil. Not everyone, certainly, but a place where mothers train their sons to be 'martyrs' and kill Jews? To not just kill them, but to torture and rape and mutilate, and then call home screaming about what they have done to the Jews [I killed 10 Jews with my own hands!!!] Yup, pretty much evil. And the Israelis? Not perfect, certainly, but better and more moral, at least in the Western sense, than any of their neighbors." I don't care about the history, I don't care about "who started it," I don't care that everybody loves or hates the Jews. All I care about is that there are two sides in this mess. One side is the least bad, and the other is the worst bad.
Coates’ moral assessment is clear and straightforward. I’m so glad that his voice is being heard.
It's also facile and wrong, but do you.
I am struck by how well he makes his arguments. Bravo sir, much love and respect to you.
Ta-Nehisi Coatesl God bless you. You are a true human and your commitment to justice will be your legacy.
Proud of Ta’Nehisi. He walks the walk. But surprised these journalists act as if the viewpoint is something radical, Pres Carter arrived at the very same conclusion in his 2006 book, Palestine:Peace not Apartheid.
He was screwered for it. The documentary "Man from Plains" chronicles his book tour for that book and you see how hostile the media was to him for daring to mention the unmentionable.
The American viewpoint is radical; Israel is the most hated country in the world; few people outside the US buy into the bullsh*t narratives and talking points about the Israel-Palestine Conflict that you find in American media and American politics.
Journalism demise occurred decades ago w/ the corporate take over of news
Not only that, the interviewer was looking for empathy for the oppressor as if something could explain and justify apartheid.
Like he said in the book:
Carter calls for a revitalization of the peace process based on the following three "key requirements":
a. The security of Israel must be guaranteed ...
This has never happened sadly.
Nelson Mandela said that Israel was an Apartheid state over 50 years ago and Bishop Desmond Tutu said that the Apartheid he saw in Gaza was worse than anything he had experienced in South Africa.
@@Stevef2022 Well, Steve, we at least know that you're wrong. This statement has been debunked.
@@Stevef2022You having said "a fascist animal like Mandela" discredits anything you say thereafter.
@@Stevef2022 Doesn't sound like he said that. But even if he did, that would make him wrong on the particular subject of Israel. If MLK said 2+2=5, we shouldn't get rid of our critical thinking and say he was right because he was a great man.
@@jmhorangeRooting for muslims? Muslims hate Christians.
@@Stevef2022? horrible comment.
I love his Brilliance
I love his COURAGE
I love Ta-Nehisi Coates
You will love him even more when be is deported to Senegal.
me tooooooo! his students are so lucky!
"The best Jihad is when one speaks a true word in the presence of a Tyrannical Ruler."
▪︎Prophet Muhammad{pbuh} (Hadith Tirmidhi)
He is a hero, just for speaking truth and making the connections Americans who cant understand, do.
I love the sound of his unique sounding name!
Bravo Mr. Coates!!! There's no way an African American can witness segregation and ignore it... Much respect Brother!!!
And Yet, the Jim Crow laws, and Segregation were implemented in southern states by Democrats. One fact Ta-Nehisi Coates leaves out. Republicans were in charge of the Northern States did not pass Segregation laws. Imagine that.
As Norman Finklestein once shouted to a crying supporter of Israel, "If you had any shame, you would be crying for the Palestinians."
PALESTIEN WILL BE FREE
"my parents were locked in a concentration camp, my grandparents were killed in the holocaust. spare me your crocodile tears" i believe is how he started that interaction. it was a heavy one
@@rnh18 no hes a idiot who uses his family experience to get rich off
crying for people who strap bombs to themselves because mohamed says so who is a child rapist
Ah, no. Palestinian Arabs had their chance for a state of their own back in 1948 and they instead chose to become permanent enemies of Israel. Palestinians continue to live with hate in their heart and can't admit that they lost to a better equipped and organized people.
How sad when lies are so deeply ingrained that truth becomes a feared enemy to be annihilated. Defending lies has unleashed horrifying consequences in Palestine/Israel; Ta-Nehisi Coates' clarity and fearlessness are essential to dismantling, deconstructing them.
edit: Thank you Mr. Coates for answering the question re: Israel's "right to exist." As he easily (and brilliantly) shows the question is meaningless.
Wow. Yes. This is deep and extremely terrifying .
If that were the case, then the world, and the U.N. would not recognize Israel's right to exist. But they do. It's the Palestinians that have the problem with Israel's right to exist. And apparently you. Thing is, when Israel no longer exists, neither will the world. That's what the bible says.
Brave man. Thanks for the interview.
And a wise man.
JON STEWART had real conversation with Coates: a masterclass in respectful, highly informative, and interesting two-way session.
@@buzoff4642very much so
@@H_Dar792ill check that, tnx
he seems pretty naive. Like someone who’s never really looked beyond his own story until now.
Thank you brother! Thank you! Coming from a Haitian brother I salute you and respect your braveness!!
Ta-Nehisi Coates’ closing comments were so pointed, like a dagger at the heart. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is mainly about human beings’ tendency to turn the injustice and harm we experienced in the past into an obstacle to peace in the present moment. We do this in our personal relationships, and we do it in groups. We fear the past repeating itself. So we give ourselves license to do whatever it takes to forestall that. We use our history of suffering to justify our heartlessness in the present.
Thank you Ta-Nihisi for your courage, brilliance, authenticity, and humility.
Listening to Ta-Nehisi is a privilege.
He is privileged.
@@batmanRBC Indeed, he is the very definition of privileged with simple, luxury beliefs.
We can see the savagery in these comments.
@@joge2468Privileged are those who live on the stolen lands of Palestinians while the most powerful countries on earth send you money, arms, and protect you. Privileged are those people who while possess some of the most powerful passports on earth (American, British, Canadian, Australian) still go and occupy other people's lands.
Privileged are those that the American politicians fear their lobby.
We need voices like yours in this world 😍
The issue is there are many voices like his; the media just doesn’t wish to amplify them.
100%
The way he responds to every criticism is so incisive and clear. Very few writers actually do this.
He is a good writer. That doesn't make him a political scientist or an expert. In fact, good writers can be dangerous if they pair with ignorance. For example, Sayyid Qutb was a really really good and prolific writer, but his beliefs... that's a different story. Look him up, you'll see what I am getting at.
@@lupen_rein nobody will look up your hasbara. I’m just responding for algorithm sake. Hmar!
@@What-kw6oxthey’re exhausting
@@dixztube hmar!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@dixztube lol. I know. I don’t mean to make light of the fact, but as a kid I had several encounters with the IOF in the mid-late 80’s.
I came to the US and spent the last 3 decades listening to the propaganda and I just can’t anymore 😂. I don’t even get angry now. It’s literally good vs stupid!!
I have so much respect for Ta-Nehisi Coates. He has so much knowledge, eloquence and integrity. Thank you for promoting his book❤🇵🇸
Ta-Nehisi Coates begins the Israeli-Palestinian section of his new book, The Message, with a visit to Yad Vashem, the Holocaust museum in Jerusalem. The excursion, taken on the last day of his 10-day junket to the Palestine Festival of Literature, isn't meant to elicit sympathy for the Jewish people or offer context about the founding of Israel. Rather, it is a literary device used to accuse the Israelis of becoming the thing they most revile. You see the irony, of course. It's like unfurling one of those Israeli flags with a swastika painted on it - but in swirling prose.
Indeed, The Message may well be the most beautifully crafted blood libel ever published. Each turn of phrase oozes with a loathing of the Jewish state. As with his previous work, history is a poetic truth in which white people are innately and inexorably evil - the Jew perhaps most of all.
Coates, in fact, severs the Holocaust from Jewish history, as if this is within his power, noting that he sees "Yad Vashem at a distance from Israel itself" because of "echoes to white supremacy, colonial roots, its apartheid policies." Even a casual student of history knows this rendering of Zionism is absurdly juvenile. But it is his telling of the Palestinian plight that is criminally misleading.
The Palestinians of The Message are uncannily peaceful, yearning to write poetry and plow the "sacred land" beneath their feet. Nowhere in his book, not once, does Coates bother mentioning "Hamas" despite writing it right after one of the largest massacres of Jews in history. Nowhere in his polemic about the Palestinian struggle does Coates type the words "Palestinian Liberation Organization" or "PLO" or "Fatah," much less "Hezbollah" or "Iran." "Yasser Arafat" wasn't important enough to make an appearance.
Because Coates distances himself from the Holocaust, his readers will be blissfully unaware of the grand mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al Husseini, who personally implored Adolf Hitler to "burn" the Jews of Europe years before Israel ever existed. It would, no doubt, be a heavy lift for Coates to explain why Arab pogroms occurred with regularity before the "occupied territories" or "Nakba."
The word "terrorist" makes one appearance in the entirety of The Message, and it is preceded by the word "Zionist." Coates spends his time lamenting the myths of 1948. Although Coates is unconcerned about the thousands of Palestinian murders of Jews, we learn about the fanatic Baruch Goldstein, who murdered 29 Palestinians at the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron in 1994. The Goldstein story is unintentionally useful . Anyone with a functioning moral compass immediately recognizes that Goldstein isn't a martyr of Israel, his actions denounced by virtually every Jewish organization in the world. To this day, on the other hand, the Palestinian Authority allocates monthly stipends to the families of hundreds of Baruch Goldsteins, reportedly to the tune of hundreds of millions.
My brother I love your honesty and intelligence,evil people always try to suppress the truth,live from Jamaica 🇯🇲
The occupation must end!
@@CAndgomon Biden / Harris defend it
It did. In 1948🤷🏾♂️
@@Erinvllc The audacity!
@@Erinvllcwrong. SO wrong
@@shownomercy3591 go cry somewhere else
This has been stated and confirmed many decades by prominent men like Mandela, bishop Tutu, President Carter (Apartheid in the Holy Land)and all the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. Black people like me who lived in the south KNOW that history and that FEELING.
You should also have sympathies for religious minorities in the Muslim world. They live under Islamic jim crow laws as second class citizens but you don't feel any pain for them?
@@siddave549Hello Moshe
@@siddave549 I dont think these people have any sympathies for anyone. Not even the palestinians. They only care that aligning themselves with the cause makes them feel like good people.
@@siddave549 I would to hear some cited examples of jim crow in Muslim countries. As far as i'm aware their is nothing akin to the West Bank or Gaza in any other nation
And by quite a few Israelis even!
Israel is a land where the people are European, the land Palestinian & the tax base American. Thank you for this interview. Ta-nehisi Coates, I love your work! I grew up white in Jim Crow south Louisiana. I saw apartheid first hand. It shaped me to be an activist for civil rights & social justice.
What happened to the 900,000 Jews that lived in the Arab world? They were forced out of their homes and became refugees finding refuge in the state of Israel. That is ethnic cleansing.
Half of the Jewish population of Israel descends from Jews who were kicked of Muslim countries from 1947, lands where they had lived for millennia. They are not European. And those that are were refegees from Christian Europe, which had oppressed them time out of mind.
That’s not true. Plenty of Israeli Jews are Middle Eastern, and even the ones who are European can trace their ancestry back to that land
@@technoloverish A D N
Tests ❎ ?
Three million Israelis are Mizrahi Jews.
You are even less informed on this topic that this guy.
This man is brave and authentic. And he is like a friend who says not what you want to hear but what you need to hear and acknowledge and discuss.
Honesty Hurts!!!!!
Bless you Coates: beautiful person.
♥️
If it's that glaring in 10 days, that's even worse
Exactly
I've tour-guided several people in the West Bank, including Jewish friends. Believe me. It's not subtle. It hits you over the head immediately, and you can never un-see it again. The apartheid and the chillingly overt racism.
Facts
Absolutely 💯 🙌🏾👊🏾
I hate "both siding". Truth is truth.
Yeah - you like simple binary narratives that make it easy for you to pick a team
@@pqunit actually never said I didn’t like nuisance. Said I didn’t like fake “both siding” especially when evidence shows it is what it is.
@@klt9874 I’d be genuinely surprised if you knew much about this conflict beyond a few superficial talking points.
@@pqunit here you go, "it's complicated " bla bla
THAT IS CIRCULAR LOGIC. TRUTH IS NOT TRUTH.
12:48: Coates put it eloquently; here's the REAL answer: "There are plenty of ethno-states around the world, but there is only ONE at the top of the list of being propped up by US taxpayers to the tune of billions of dollars, thanks to millions of dollars in lobbying."
so if america stopped being an ally to israel, then you'd leave them alone? I hope you're ready to cope with being blindsided by terror attacks on american soil
Yes, because the others are all being propped up by Qatar.
@@cindyfeit9162 I love you Cindy. This is like pissing in the wind.
Propped up? US Aid to Izz amounts to exactly 15% of its defense budget. Those funds MUST BE SPENT exclusively on defense, and 85% MUST BE SPENT with US defense contractors.
The list below is total GDP in the billions. The order is descending based on GDP per capita. You have the internet. Use it.
Qatar: 235
Izz: 530
Cyprus: 27
UAE: 537
Kuwait: 184
Saudi Arabia: 1,011
Bahrain: 45
Oman: 109
Turkey: 1,114
Iraq : 283
Jordan: 50
Egypt: 469
Iran : 464
Lebanon: 25
Syria: 60
Yemen: 28
@@joge2468 shocked
Thank you Mr. Coates for speaking facts from your experience; the truth hurts but must be done and stated well.❤
The brother is telling the truth regardless of the consequences.
Israel have lost more than the PR war but also humanity, decency and respect. Lol, they have the gall to take offense.
The way you talk belies a worldview that's really at the root of all wars.
@@pqunit Calling out Israel's lack of humanity, decency and morality is "the root of all wars"? That literally makes no sense. Exactly what world view is "acceptable" to call out inhumanity and the dehumanization of all "other" ethnicities?
But you think Hamas is more decent humane and respectful?
@@Gphilly819 Don't but KHAMAAAS the issue. You stated that calling out Israel's inhumanity and indecency and immorality is the root of all wars. WHY? I can criticize this crap government, I can criticize Chyna....but no one can call out Apartheid and War Crimes of Israel when we see them? Is that what you propose? Why? Is Israel some how immune to The Human Rights Declaration or the Geneva Convention?
@@SaltylilPickle if Israel ends its occupation the West Bank will become jihadist central
When oppression and injustice are practiced against certain groups of people there is no such thing as "two sides".
Absolutely
Well said!!!!
Just because you're weak doesn't make you moral...the jihadists have been trying to wipe out Israel and have failed each time. I think it's time to recognise that Israel is here to stay
Brave of him to speak up. Much respect ❤
a man of integrity and courage.
In July the International Court of Justice officially ruled that Israel is committing racial segregation & apartheid. It also said all states must stop providing any kind of assistance that allows Israel to prolong it's illegal occupation of Palestinian territories, these include the West Bank, Gaza & Golan Heights. The Democratic & Republican parties in supporting Israel with arms, trade agreements etc are supporting the contemporary equivalent of South African apartheid & US segregation. The black & brown faces that now exist in the highest levels of power, Harris, Obama, Lloyd Austin etc have got there not because support for racist, apartheid policies by the US have ended, but because they are willing to support racism & apartheid like their white supremacist predecessors. Same has happened in the UK with people like Rishi Sunak and David Lammy.
Great perspective from Ta-Nehisi, thank you so much for giving a voice to the silenced.
I am surprised that no one ever points out that even the colour of the roof is planned showing settlements versus Palestinian neighbourhoods for aerial surveillance and attack. The architecture of apartheid in the West Bank is fascinating (and profoundly demoralizing)
I'll bet you also criticized Israel when it made mistakes in bombing buildings in Gaza yet see no irony in your own comment.
@@Sturgeon54 Nope. I will simply revel in your incompetence to be able to understand the difference between the west bank and gaza. Probably part of why you cant comprehend nuance and also your inept ability to follow the point or understand irony. happy thursday
@@Sturgeon54with Israel THERE AREN’T MISTAKES, everything is DONE WITH PURPOSE. Stop being a puppet and cut the strings. America has set a precedent and we still struggle with our sins because people refuse to SEE THE TRUTH AND ACCEPT ACCOUNTABILITY. We have a choice to what’s right or what’s easy, Americans has chosen to do what’s easy time and time again (and the world SUFFERS because we don’t have to courage to do what is RIGHT).
Interesting. I didn’t know that. Doesn’t surprise me though given the Israeli apartheid being practiced there
@@Sturgeon54when you think you’re always the smartest person in the room 😂😂😂. WEST BANK.
Coates is so very thoughtful. I am glad he gave this interview. I am looking forward to reading his book.
Thank you to C Amanpour for finally having people on the show who tell the truth about what’s happening in the world
Thank U for the Message ❤😎
I admire him so much. Such a brave person. Can’t wait for the book to arrive
He is a very bold and very true American!!! please please don’t allow him to be blacklisted
Where did your thinking come from?
@@lovely-mk4rtCBS???? Western media??? Waiting to see if he is on CNN?
@@lovely-mk4rtsomeone doesnt pay attention. All you have to do is look at Israel funny to be called antisemitic or any other plethora of undeserved descriptors
The “complicated” aspects melt away once you look at Israel’s actions. In places without militants, soldiers protect settlers as they steal and re enact the pogroms they fled from, but instead they are perpetrators.
All people, Arabs included, have a right to own land and property. Israel’s systematic thievery and destruction of farmland is what Americans are defending.
Americans stole land from black people too. Google it.
The West Bank exists because Jordan (aka the other state that Britain created) invaded and ethnically cleansed the area in 1948.
Funny, America is defending the exact thing it did to form its country. Soon Palestinians will be limited to the worst strips of land and they will be called "reservations"
They have no right to own land in a country that is not theirs. They can own land in the 23 other countries that are theirs. Inshallah the world will wake up to this deception.
They only use the argument of "it is complicated" to distract from the root cause of the problem, which is their stealing of lands with terror & killings and holding on to it with apartheid.
This man is a modern American treasure. Good on you, Ta-Nehisi and Thank You.
My parents were born in Jim Crow America…enough said. Thank you , so much for writing this book, it is moral for us human to be silent about this tragedy. We , must demand better of the U S government.
Our Gov is captured by AIPAC (jewish lobby) google anti bds laws. They are deeply ingrained in Gov, have been for decades
My parents were born in Jim Crow America also and I think he's wrong. But I have seen "two tiered" citizenship all over the Middle East. In fact it's more akin to indentured servitude to a homogeneous citizenry. But yeah tell us how the multiracial country is Jim Crow south.
@@ḵulagaawthank you for your wonderful comment. Voice of reason.
It always blows my mind when I think about how the American Evangelical movement has given unconditional support for the state of Israel, even in it's treatment of Palestinian Christians, who happen to be the original Christians, who can track their orthodoxy and linage all the way back to Jesus. They are now supporting Israel in it's attempt to annex the West Bank and drive them out of the Holy Land.
1st they ask for support, then they ask for $$
Its disgusting.
It is really mind boggling!
Do let them blow your mind, brother. Their behaviour is clearly those of hyporities
Evangelical Christians belive as long as they support Israel in the second coming of Jesus peace be upon him they will be saved and for that they well through any one under the bus even their fellow Christians😢
"Immoral Apartheid Regime." He's right. It
's what Jimmy Carter said 20 + years ago. It's what I saw there. There are Israelis againt this, but t he are not strong enough to get rid of Netenyahu.
The West Bank is not Israel. Only visiting the West Bank will never give you a full picture about Israel, only about the occupation in that particular place.
@@lupen_rein Is Israel occupying the West Bank? Yes. Is Israel's actions preventing any political solution of the Palestinians? Yes. Is Israel's desire not to deal with the occupation driving violence and extremism in Gaza and the West Bank? Yes.
So if you care about Israel and the Israeli people, why would you focus about the full picture of Israel and dismiss what's going on in the West Bank and Gaza? The full picture of Israel is threatened by Israel not addressing the Palestinian problem diplomatically. Long term, this could result in political and economic instability in Israel and the collapse of the Israeli state. We should do everything we can to prevent that, and it starts with addressing apartheid.
@jmhorange and conveniently, there's never ever been any reason to suspect that groups like Hamas and Hezbollah, who embrace their own deaths as martyrs in the holy purpose of riding the land of Jews, have anything to do with the current state of things. I wonder how many people reading this were even alive during the first Intifada. You might not be old enough to remember the campaign of suicide bombings that took place for years before that giant security wall went up. I guess history only matters when it suits a certain narrative 🤷
Polls show only 4% are against it.
@@jmhorange Your second statement of Israel's occupation driving violence and extremism is an assumption that has been tested by Israel multiple times and they have paid with blood. Palestinians have a say in whether they resort to violence and extremism. I saw a video recently of a 24 yr old female engineer who admits that she has a good life in the west bank in a nice apartment who would see the Jews driven to the sea and will not stop fighting until that happens.
It is not oppression that leads to the extremism. It is a culture and a national identity that sees its raison d'etre as the elimination of the Jewish state. Funny how westerners think they know more about the situation that the people who live it.
Israel had 20k gazans coming into israel every day for work. They were working with the PA and BP to build a framework for the exploitation and security of the Gaza gas fields for the benefit of gazans. They were signing peace deals with their neighbors. Gazans were getting free treatment from Israeli hospitals. They were actually convincing people to send aid to Gaza. What more diplomatic efforts do you want?
Even Hamas came out and bragged after oct 7 that they lulled israel into a false sense of security. That they made them think that diplomacy would work.That is why they had their guard down.
Come on.
Thank you standing up for humanity brother.
He was identified as a hero when he stood against social injustice in the US. One of the most intellectual writers of our times. RESPECT
Love this man, Ta-Nehisi Coates. Very smart, logical thinker
America is waking up to learn about the real nasty reality of State of Israel.
and American Jews are waking up to US antisemitism. I image the State of Israel will grow by 20% in the coming years. Good luck
Isreal IS AMERICA. See what happens is that many folks FORGET and can't make the connection because the slickness associated with the sickness is done so smooth that the average person won't even catch it.
They helped design it so not sure what they're waking up to....
@@staffordcooley3284 how so?
@@Evan-rm3zmUSA enables them. The rest of the world has been condemning isntreal for decades but America stands in the way preventing anybody or entity from taking action against them.
“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”
- John Sheehan
I admire this fella. 👍
FREEDOM FOR PALESTINIANS!!!!
They are being freed one soul at a time
Ta-Nehisi Coates has integrity. LOVE IT.
You think he has integrity but he needs an education. The Arabs he is talking about arent citizens.
The fact that the mainstream media is covering him is amazing!
I think you mean either shameful or embarrassing.
They have to because he has rattled the cage of hypocrisy and called out the blanket support of colonization of Palestine...
First watched and listened to him on Democracy Now. Good to see him interviewed on Amanpour & Company. First hand account of israel's apartheid and occupation of the Palestinian. Respect to Mr. Coates: to show empathy and humility to see and understand what is in front of him and speak out when atrocities happen.
Respect for this awesome human being ✊
Thank you for letting Coates speak without being confrontational
Ta-Nehisi Coates delivers again. He's a truth teller with a keen eye and a sharp sense of morality
Good on you Ta-Nehisi Coates , you have shown courage where 99.9999% are deciding to turn a blind eye for the Palestinian suffering.
I didn’t think that I could love & respect this man more. ❤
This right here is a brave man who speaks from the heart, does his research, and its not afraid of the consequences of speaking the truth. This man is what the American ideal is, and it makes me sad to see that people like him, people with his courage are rarely to be found in the American media landscape.
He’s very courageous. We all need to walk in others shoes. Thank you for telling this story.
I truly appreciate him for standing for what he believes!!! The elites won’t like this but I literally just purchased every book he ever wrote. I love ppl who speak truth to power definitely when they are in the same room!
Wow! I found this interview to be deep and thoughtful. I’m hearing a perspective, I haven’t thought about.
I thank this brother for telling it like it is as well as being about the truth. Much respect for you be one!!!
Bravo Mr Coates for not both sidesing this issue. ❤
I saw Mr. Coates on the Daily Show talking to Jon Stewart. It was a very insightful and deeply thought provoking discussion. It left me wanting to hear more.
Thank you Ta-Nehisi for the truth. This is much more in-depth and accurate.
Thank you to this channel for bringing on someone from mainstream American academia who isn't afraid of speaking the truth and saying it like it is. I wish him all the best in confronting the deluge of criticisms and cancellations that he is surely going to face.
Thank you Michelle and Christiane.
Thank you for speaking ouf. I think we have all had our eyes opened by the events of the last year. As an American I feel betrayed by the unquestioned billions of dollars of support to Israel by the USA and the protection of Israel no matter what it does. One doesn't have to visit or spend a lot time in Israel to know it most certainly is an apartheid state. I'm ashamed that I didn't pay attention to the Palestinian plight sooner.
"One doesn't have to visit or spend a lot time in Israel to know it most certainly is an apartheid state."
Statements like these show the idiotic world we live in. Listen to experts, not some beautiful prose-wiedling writer who pretends to be an expert, even though he didn't even properly visit Israel proper and its 2 million non-Jewish citizens with equal rights, representation in parliament, the media, the justice system and more.
@@lupen_reinI was born in Palestine. Save your propaganda for The Hague. So tired of your endless defense of madness!
@@lupen_rein you don’t have to spend a month in Israel to understand what type of society sends IDF soldiers to escort extremist settlers into Palestinian villages to destroy their homes and crops
@@lupen_reinone question: Even though you seem to disagree with his conclusion: that it’s apartheid: Does he lie or distort the truth in any of his examples which he base his claims of apartheid on? And that case which ones?
@@MrCph2200 The term Apartheid is a mischievous one. It is meant to delegitimize Israel. Apartheid is race based discrimination. Whatever issues the Palestinians have, Arab Israelis are not subject to the same experience.
In Apartheid SA, the whites did it to maintain racial dominance. Israel maintains that its actions are because of legitimate security concerns. People like you and others like to pretend as if they are hallucinating these security concerns despite having lost thousands to terror attacks and other things.
When you dont have 24 year old palestinian engineers who admit they live a good life in the west bank longing for the day the Jews disappear, then you will have peace.
I gotta get this 📚 BOOK!!!
He is so brave! I am just back from Northern Ireland and then traveling in the mid Ireland. Same thing. Occupation. Racism. Only moderately attended to at this time.
Are you seriously comparing Israeli apartheid to Northern Ireland. I know the about the peace lines, which might remind one of the separation wall in the West Bank or Gaza.
Hopefully Ireland will be unified soon, and Palestine will be free.
@@adnan10241 Free from Hamas perhaps.
Go away bot. Everyone should have peace and thats what people are fighting for
@@spencera1129 Not a bot. October 7th was a genocide committed by Palestinians. Coates is a genocide apologist.
Not the same. Catholics in N Ireland are free to travel own property vote and be elected.
Excellent interview! Good questions. Ta-Nahisi responded with powerful, truthful answers, sugar-coating absolutely nothing. My highest respect to Ta-Nahisi Coates. Despite his valid human fears, he steps forward straight into the fire to defend human rights for all, setting a brilliant example for others. Thank you.!
So proud of you Ta-Nehisi.
I love you Ta-Nehisi
Voice of courage against apartheid, mass murder and racial supremacism against Palestinians.
Mr Coates is answering questions as he witnessed them. Seems many authors back off or hold back on their honest view of Israel.
huh? I hear literally NO END of criticism of Israel. Odd.
I went to philadelphia on a trip that only took me to the areas with fentynal zombies. I write a book talking about how Philadelphia is lost and there is no reason to go there. I see no other side of the place other than the most desolate and intentional block my view of the good.
Wouldn't everyone assume I was a propagandist or a moron?
Why does this black panther clown get away with this nonsense?
Can’t wait to buy his award winning book !! Brilliant journalist,& upstanding human being !! Yes … apartheid is unacceptable !!
This man is a blessing. Thank you Mr. Coates. Thank you on behalf of the Palestinians and the truth.
God bless this man for speaking the truth and approaching these difficult subjects with humility, curiosity, and thoughtfulness.
This man is a man of integrity.
Free Palestine! Free USA from Israel!
Thank you for speaking with him, what a man with a moral compass.
Much respect and admiration for this brilliant man 🌺 Aloha from Hawai’i
Ta-Nehisi may very well have taken up the mantle of James Baldwin in these our times.
I’m sorry Coates has to deal with such openly hostile interviewers. He did an amazing job despite how clearly uncomfortable the interviewer was with presenting Isreal as anything but good.
I am sure he welcomed the questions. They were hardly hostile, just predictable.
He’s self righteous and ignorant about the topic.
He doesn’t mention a word about the horrific Islamofascism endemic in Palestinian society.
@@Stevef2022 try getting out of the basement sometime 😂
@@perlenbob how many times did he use the word racism in this interview?
It’s like an idea permanently imprinted on his head.
I have yet to see him comment on the concepts of Abeed and Arab Imperialism.
@@Stevef2022 Is this a joke?
Maybe he should focus on the Ethiopian Jews that were given birth control injections without their knowledge, or generally the treatment of black Jews in Israel.
Or maybe he should focus on the practice of metzitzah?
What’s your point? Educated black men, really seem to hurt white Americans and zionists for some reason.
Thank goodness for his voice!
Thanks for sharing the truth. Big respect.
This interview was incredible. This interview restores some hope. God, please protect him. America, please protect him and lift him up.
I sensed a real bias of the host towards Israel in the questions she asked. But Coates responded beautifully. This is the second time I’ve seen this host interview someone on the Palestine issue with this kind of bias.
20 years ago i shared an apartment with an ex military guy from isreal called Ori. This was in china Nani. What this guy told me about how the handle the Palestinian.. i was shocked. He was really sad about the situation but nothing he could do. He said one Saturday morning. When im here i don't have to worry like when im back home. Sad situation
Toni Morrison said Coates was carrying Baldwin's legacy and I think she was right.
Once , every few years , we get a brave skillful journalist , who writes with his conscience. Ta-Nehisi Coates is one of them.
Ta-Nehisi Coates's vulnerability in this interview is true leadership.