lol nothing about the Marxist Central Bank printing ridiculous amounts of money and the government ivy league bureaucrat's running massive deficits??? Nope lol nothing at all huh. Keep trying to weasel your way out of responsibility it's the ultimate display of pampered idiocy.
The 'entertainment' was an additional factor; “I don't care what the newspapers say about me, as long as they spell my name right.” The quote has been attributed to many people, including Mae West, P.T. Barnum and W.C. Fields - and now DJ Chump. Mixed with the 'entertainment', or part of it for the Plebs, was to cause outrage, controversy, chaos and confusion. No controversy was full explored by the media, the opposition or the public before the next bombshell detonated in the press. I think it was just the lying, cheating, conman Chump rather then anything planned, but it was effective. The public ended up dumbed by it all and became accepted and normalised by the media and 'sanewashing'.
I am a daughter of the rust belt working class. For 45 years the Republican Party has stoked resentment between economic classes and directed it toward the people at the bottom of the ladder, and told them all REPEATEDLY that the "Deomocrats" (and I am not one) hated and looked down on them. The entire economy has been re-made in favor of those at the top of the pyramid. I lived through the deindustrialization of Detroit/Pontiac/Flint, MI. There were definitely people there who could have benefited from and would have loved MEANINGFUL job re-training programs but instead had to take whatever piecemeal, low paid employment to keep their families housed and fed. And the focus on "the working class" as a primarily White, male, industrial class has not been true for DECADES. The "working class" is increasingly made up of low wage workers, people of color, and women. Jobs that USED to be middle class have become "gig" jobs. Or, newer employees in the same jobs as older employees are paid at lower pay scales. Private equity has purchased entire industries all across the country, making services unaffodable. Plumbing businesses, veterinary and human group medical practices, hospitals--even cemeteries -- are now owned by PE firms who have made every aspect of life beyond the reach of normal human beings. In Chicago, the two and three family homes that gave families a leg up are being purchased as tear downs so developers can build shoddily slapped together "Luxury" condos which sell for double and triple what an entire two or three flat did in the 2010s. Yes, people are furious. Trump and his lunatics are blaming immigrants for what people like those who funded his run like the venture capitalist fever dream investment it is--the Thiels and Andreassons, and Sachs of the crypto bro, billionaire fascists think is their due, was certainly not the answer, but if we are all going down, a lot of people are ready to burn it down. THAT'S what this election was about. Think Jesse Ventura as MN Governor in the late 90s. A joke. Because most people who voted for him lack the framework or the imagination to imagine the craven contempt with which our most basic govt functions are being approached, just one week in.
Republicans have consistently voted against public education & expanding health care. These are the very things this fellow says we need more of to benefit the most. (He even credited Western Europe for doing this to create a more egalitarian society than we now have here). Germany has opened its public Universities to the world, tuition-free. Education includes way more than "going to college." Germany has for a long time developed a wide range of pathways to a good living through skilled trade programs and partnerships with apprentice programs through manufacturers. The major issues of anger here have been stoked & nurtured by the toxic spread of mis- & even deliberate dis-information. Fox, Newsmax, OAN & Breitbart et. al. have been very successful at inciting anger & grievance as a business model & have been extraordinarily successful at this. This is continuing even after Fox was fined 3/4 of a billion dollars for broadcasting information they knew to be untrue and Smartmatic is not even done with them yet. Even the private Fox emails, made public during the investigation, indicated they ridicule & poke fun at the very audience they incite. Just an expense of doing business so full speed ahead. How about another conspiracy theory.
This is spot on! The goal of the GOP is for people to stay dumb enough to believe what they say, and not healthy enough to do anything if they recognize misinformation. The proof is the expense of these two things doubling every couple years.
Bad take. Increasing share of GDP goes to government. Worse, most of the total take is mal-distributed, to buy votes and pay off cronies. The failure is ENTIRELY with how badly government uses that small portion going to proper jobs of government. And that failure is most prominent in failed centers of blue cities, strangled by teachers' unions and corrupting welfare. When you try to disagree, use facts, deployed with reason and I will match you point by point. Or shun open debate and convict yourself. PS: The German economy has stagnated pitifully in the last 15 years, compared to the growth in America. Thank you for trying to make that point!
Americans have been too stoopido to live since saint Ronny Reagan and slick Willie Clinton. Voted themselves out of existence because there was no other choice. Just labels and cheerleaders.
I have a 4 year degree and have been poor for 32 years. I still voted for Harris because of Trump's very real crimes and his endless lies. 51 percent of the electorate apparently ignored these serious flaws. This professor is full of it.
@@skis_injeans Apparently. I was working class for 32 years after I earned my BA, Magna Cum Laude, at the age of 40. I was laid off from my medical records job in 2013. I have been retired ever since. I now make $18,000 per year, and when I was working made the inflation adjusted equivalent of $30,000. I am a working class university graduate. I would have been in a state of bliss to have earned half the salary of a plumber or an electrician during my working days. I have very little "social esteem", but it would never occur to me that voting for a lying criminal like Trump would help me feel like less of a loser. I have come to the conclusion that brainwashing by the MAGA disinformation ecosystem is largely responsible for Trump's victory. Yes, there is plenty of discontent, but the professional liars falsely convinced many low information voters that Trump was the remedy. Oh, and I really don't think of myself as a loser. I kinda like myself, albeit something of a pauperish self.
..the explanation is simpler ..Trump stood for the presidency to avoid his legal liabilities. He recognized a voter block, said what those people wanted to hear, and got elected..
The poor and rural people chose Trump for their salvation. But this is like chickens looking to Colonel Sanders as their hero. That said, Democrats need to deliver real results to middle America. Jobs, safe communities, a sense of dignity.
Yes. The "you can get it if you really try" refrain is demoralizing if economic and social conditions prevent almost everyone from doing that. People believe the song and turn on themselves and their frustration is easily harnesed by cynical political actors who will only deepen their misery hoping for even more power.
s'the same the world over! Some lucky ones educate themselves as adults -and become aware ...that the Govenemsnt, of whatever colour is NOT THE problem, essentially, imperfect as it is!)
@@juliangiulio3147 That is what the neoliberal ideologues say - there is only the individual, society does not exist. "The government" is not the problem, because the government is US and the problem is YOU. Or, that's what they mean, anyway.
living in America is like winning the global lottery. You have no idea because you never lived in a third world country. Keep whining about your shortcomings and blaming 'the system' instead of your poor decisions and work ethic.
@@valdencorr2861 Are you talking to me? I am American, 14th generation, but have spent most of my life living in third world countries. I am not blaming the system. I am stating a simple fact. Human beings are social animals and not each a world unto their own. That is the ludicrous position of neoliberalism, universally discredited but still believed by simple minded folks innocent in their bliss.
Lmao who is you😅😅..I went to a maga rally in Florida and a Harris one...nothing but love from maga..Harris folks were so smug ..you don't fall in full line you get kicked to the curb..im glad I left the left..what trash
Sandel is brilliant and absolutely prophetic. Thank you, great video, and as always such a pleasure watching Mr Isaacson. He's incredible, and so perceptive, truly great interviewer.
That's right. Intergenerational mobility in decent countries is higher because the social safety net is really a trampoline. Good public education, taxpayer funded healthcare for all, guaranteed minimum incomes, student loan programs can all give young people a boosted to rise higher than their parents, and that's as it should be.
This is one of the most profound interviews I have ever reviewed on RUclips - we should pay attention to this information - swings hammer - hits nail on head!
Many interesting points, but what I am having difficulty in understandings is, if you accept all that was said, why Oh why, would anyone think that Trump and the current Republicans be the ones to change that?
The Biden presidency was the most focused on the concerns of working people since LBJ if not FDR and was frequently blocked by Trump and the Republicans. This alone seriously undermines Mr Sandel's argument.
Stop blaming the democrats, excuse professor from Harvard, this is nonsense, Americans voted against their interests, stupid people voted against their interest, this is giving it too much credit to try to rationalize idiots
The insult goes further. It is that when one has scraped and scrapped their way through to get the degree, they *STILL* have not been able to to get a job that would make the value of the degree worthwhile, between the repayment of the educational loans and the negative salary outlook that would assure viable job outlook to repay said educational loans and make it possible to purchase a home and start a family.
Well, one has to consider how salable their degree is going to be. I once read that a recent graduate with a 4 year degree in petroleum engineering could expect a starting salary of $100k. Someone with a degree in English is not getting close to that. My degree in biochemistry did not lead to a job but I studied what I was interested in. I have never regretted that. I had to go back to school to specialize in order to have a rewarding career. Society does have its problems but people need to look at their own actions as well.
A good place to start would be raising the minimum wage. Corporations have milked the working class since at least 1990. Corporate profits over paying the people who make it possible for you to have a corporation, a living wage. Just a thought--it would be a good first step. And, let's make it somehow worthwhile for manufacturers to come back to the U.S.
I'm 59, I have both a CDL and an Associate of Applied Sciences degree from my local community college and I have been poor my entire life. I have watched, year by year, everyone i know, working harder and harder to simply meet the basics, meanwhile, we remember; I remember when my dad and uncles and neighbors didn't have to have a 2.5 worker family to buy a home, have 2 cars, and take vacations, something I haven't had in over 20 years. People are pissed, simple as that. We're pissed that we're making peanuts while everything costs walnuts and the elite get richer and richer and richer... Eventually, something has to give... And since the Democratic and Republican parties have mocked and outright ignored the working class for so long, they feel that if it takes chaos to see change, so be it. We shall see which side was right...
Or you could accept that corporations are run by the greedy self-centered. There is no reason wages have not gone up except for their greed. Every Republican has voted every time with corporations to keep wages low. Elon Musk fired 10% when he took over Twitter so he would keep more money. They don't care one bit about the people, especially this new criminal group.
Bernie Sanders and even Warren Buffet have spoken about this. Buffet still lives in his original house. Buffett doesn't seek massive tax breaks. He wants to be taxed. As a visitor I was staggered at the weath gap in the USA. Trump won't fix this. He has no interest in working people other than ripping them off. As a visitor I always used to think that something ad to give in the US, it can't go on like this.
Can you tell me examples of Dems mocking working class and denigrating jobs? They're the ones fighting for min wage and a livable wage, unions, making associate degrees free and apprenticeships
It's telling that in critiquing the Democrats, one calls for the renewal of institutions that have been co-opted (churches) or destroyed (public schools) by the GOP. Again and again the Democrats are called on to save America from the forces the GOP unleashes, yet the GOP can never face criticism for unleashing these forces.
Sandel said it, they wanted change, to them ANY change is better than NO change. That is the message that MAGA reinforced and the people who wanted change bought it.
Those people couldn't think of anything beyond the end of their own driveway. Willful ignorance and disinformation is all they see on their chosen media outlet.
He's able to articulate something about American society that I've only had confused thoughts about over the course of the last 20 years, mainly the growing gulf between rich and poor and how it effects culture and community
Some of what this commentator says makes sense. BUT in Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown made “the dignity of work” his campaign slogan and core value. And he still lost in 2024. Explain that, please.
It is simply not enough to state a position it must be backed up by action. The problem is that both parties have created a situation with real life effects that cannot be addressed simply with words. The disillusionment is with the party as a whole and people’s real life issues and experiences supersede any verbal promises or commitments by any one individual within the party; I support Senator Sherrod’s position but I think many people will only be convinced when they can see, experience, and sense that substantial change is on the horizon.
Republicans tell whatever lies they have to tell to make their base believe that they’re in competition with other poor people. That message is more powerful than touchy feely hopey messages from democrats.
@ agree that is work for the Democratic Party and allied groups. Part of Ohio’s vote on Senator Brown was driven by Trump and his cult. But we also need to be wary of the warnings of Socrates and his student Plato: that uninformed members of a democracy are dangerous to that democracy. The voting data shows that higher information voters broke for Harris and low information voters broke for Trump. Even though most Biden policies were geared towards the working class-and worked. So an important part of the fix is messaging. What we have seen in 2024 is what Cipolla terms the “Bandits” manipulating the “Stupid” (his terminology-people who act against their own interests). We who care about government of, by and for the people-all the people-have to defeat that.
Kamala Harris also made "hard work is good work, hard work is joyful work" a campaign mantra. And she modeled this herself in impeccably steaming ahead in what must have been an exhausting campaign.
It's not the job of society to make men 'feel better.' They need to take, what Joseph Campbell called, "The Heroes Journey," to self discovery and becoming the true self. It requires giving up drugs, abusiveness, wild behavior, etc. which only masks pain.
As a woman who went to college l have always felt squeezed economically as a single parent. I somehow managed to send my son to college. He managed to send two children to college but they are living at home. My son just paid off student debts for his master's degree. Only the very rich are having the good life. None of us voted for DT because he's a menace who tried to overthrow the government. We still have all the problems and stress!
The truth is I have a degree. Three degrees for that matter and I still am hardly making ends meet. Working class and middle class have been squeezed in. And now with this election we are getting rich white supremacists supercharge neoliberalism.
What is IMO missing in his explanation is that people who voted for Trump didn't vote for Republicans. They hate traditional Republicans arguably even more than they hate Democrats. And while the appeal of Trumpism is partially due to feeling left behind, it is also about the appeal of populism and demagoguery. It is very difficult for Democrats to appeal to these same voters unless they stoop to the same level of political discourse.
Like calling Trump a threat to democracy and huge swaths of citizens fascists and garbage? That level of political discourse? People is glass houses...
Every human-created things we see, use, live in, ride in, fly in, etc., etc. are built by craftsmen & women. Few have college degrees. Our society is hugely dependent on these people. They need to be shown the honor they so justifiably deserve.
☝️☝️ It simply says we're in urgent need of strengthening our guardrails. Should have never been allowed near political power in the first place. No deep psychology needed. Simply common sense and a moral compass.
Thank you Michael for bringing up patriotism. I have thought that allowing MAGA to take over flag waving patriotism was bad for the Democrats. They should have been right out there with the flag - the only real symbol of out country.
Disclaimer: I am not a native English speaker. The following is an AI-assisted translation of a commentary I made on French-language channels. In the original French, both _pouvoir_ and _puissance_ translate as _power._ I kept _power_ for _pouvoir_ and inserted _agency_ for _puissance._ The wind is still blowing in favour of the educated elite who have a college degree, even though we just lost an election., because the fundamentals of contemporary, urban progressivism will not be easily defeated. Rural rustics and anti-'60s roughnecks can certainly win at the ballot box and put their champion in _power,_ but they will find it much harder to deprive progressives of their _agency._ What do I think are these elements of agency, these fundamentals that are not about to disappear? I'll mention three. 1) The educational superiority of women. Only the stupidest of them now choose the ‘tradwife’ lifestyle. Most educated women work and earn more than the men who might be their partners. The traditional fifties family model that reactionaries dream of, with income provided exclusively by a dominant father, is simply no longer viable in contemporary reality. This has consequences for the formation of couples and the birth rate that anti-progressives cannot control. The actions of the American right, following its election victory, will do nothing to change this. The gap between women's desires and men's desires is widening. A Korean-style 4B movement is beginning to emerge in the US: Four ‘N's’, four capital N's: No to marriage, No to reproduction, No to lasting emotional relationships with men, No to ephemeral sexual relationships. I will not dare predict that this movement will last, but it could well be more than just a short-lived knee-jerk reaction: it could be a way of fanning the flames of the anti-traditional family movement. 2) The inescapable loss of agency of ordinary, average, mediocre men, who think that being a man is enough to entitle them to domination (cf. the red pill, incels, and other pitiful masculinists...). Loss of agency not only in the face of the narcissistic wounds inflicted on them by increasingly educated women, but also in the face of those inflicted on them by technological progress, by AI, by transhumanism. Elon Musk is in the game, and he is not the best ally of ordinary, average, mediocre men (who are themselves not their best allies: see Nicholas Eberstadt's work on the relationship to work of a growing number of young men). Elon Musk's interests are not aligned with those of reactionary little men. It seems quite likely to me that he has used them to gain a position of power and bring about not a return to a mythical America of the past but a leap forward towards a modernity free of the obstacles that were put in the way by the woke, particularly in terms of regulation. I now have a new hope: the hope that, when he shows his hand, he will fuck up the Tucker Carlsons and Charlie Kirks of this world, and their followers, who don't for a second consider the effect that AI and the new modernity could have on their role in the economy and on their narcissistic pride. 3) The inevitable decline of Christianity in the West, not out of hostility but out of profound indifference, even if Christian nationalists are among Donald Trump's most visible supporters and believe they are triumphing with him. Let's not forget that wokism, which has just suffered a major defeat, is not authentic progressivism but a degenerate form of puritan Christianity. What's more, it would appear that it is not the Heritage Foundation's plan (Project 2025) that will serve as the roadmap, with its programme to abolish abortion, contraception and even no-fault divorce, but that of the America First Policy Institute. It's a ‘move to the right’, obviously, but when I hear the list of measures I see traditional hard right but not fascism, anti-woke Kärcher, but not the destruction of the three sources of agency that I mentioned. On the contrary, these measures, like the presence of Elon Musk at Donald Trump's side, make it conceivable that genuine progressivism, rid of the Woke cancer, can continue after the event. The kind of progressivism that JK Rowling, for example, is fighting for.
Thank you for this - it is interesting. I will have to consider it more deeply. One thing which I think may be missing is an acknowlegement that within the above context, *power* is exclusively about *control* over others. If an alternate concept of power could gain ascendency and agency (some form of internal self-mastery, a spiritual awakening?) it could give a much needed and/or a different, (or an entirely unrelated) boost to a *viable resistance* . However, this has been the ongoing story of human forays into spirituality for millennia and humankind has shown no appreciable inclination to supercede its basest instincts. We have the instinct for it, but not the will. Bad behaviour & actions are more fun, I suppose.
Love your use of "ordinary, average, mediocre men" - a bit cynical, but true, and something people go to a lot of effort to pretend is not the case - America is the best! the peasants shout to each other.
I see, to satisfy the needs of the common people we should take advice from a philosopher who works at one of the snobbiest Ivy League colleges. Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket!
MOST jobs outside of being an Engineer, Doctor, Lawyer, a High school diploma or AA degree can get the job done because most jobs you can easily pick up the skills as you work.
This guy... working people = people without college degrees. wtf. I have two degrees, one in a stem field, and I make jack shit. I have to hustle to eat.
He’s saying “the grievances of working people - those without university degrees.” Meaning the working-class folks without university degrees. Not that all working people don’t have degrees.
As an older millenial, it seems as if nearly every big federal gov't initiative since the '90s conducted by "experts" has been a failure, from the NAFTA/WTO trade deals, to de-regulation of banks/derivatives, the 2008 bailouts, both the Iraq and Afghanistan War, Trump tax cuts, even the COVID response in certain respects (i.e., lockdowns and too much wasteful un-targeted stimulus). How can you blame people for voting against the ''experts'' for the one person saying things aren't going well and he'll fix it?
Yes! The Dems have delivered nothing for the people. They just kick the can down the road in perpetuity because they need to do more "assessments" on the issues.
What Michael is saying is true, and it’s important the Democratic Party leadership recognizes it, it’s also true that the loss of dignity in work has been baked into society now. Bad parenting is responsible for some of that. Having worked as both a low-wage worker as well as a highly paid IT technician for decades and now in semi-reitrement, I find that few people take pride in work anymore. There is a malaise, a sense of laziness and slovenliness and apathy that comes, I think, from a combination of bad parenting to go along with decades of demoralization from the governance of the GOP and a watered-down Democratic Party. We are in serious need of another FDR to kickstart hope in America again.
Our problem has become one of lack of moral & ethical education, plus lack of an upbringing with understanding of character. There's no longer any philosophical, religious, or socialization instruction that could guard against the negative & uncivilized effects of our unreliable communication vehicles. Garbage or nothing in=garbage or nothing out.
Matt Gaetz leading the Justice Department will surely unite the country. When everybody is made to lick Trump's boots we should all just be thankful. And as the legislator Troy Nehls from Texas just told all of us, when Trump says to jump three feet high and scratch your head, we all jump three feet high and scratch our heads. "That's it." Like his campaign slogan said, Everything Trump does is always right, just like Mussolini.
Maybe a pick for a single cabinet position was about having someone who’s qualified, but also being deliberate in creating one of the most diverse admins in our history. If you have a problem with her (excusing any issues you might have with her identity) then show us where she failed
Why would anyone care? Levine is a distinguished academic and doctor. If that is divisive to you, then you'e just a bigot. We don't want to unite with bigots.
When you have world inflation problems people always blame the sitting President or Prime Minister in any country even though none of them could have avoided it. It’s as simple as that and many don’t stop and think about anything else.
Can we also just admit she is a woman and of color. The guest way over analyzed this. And, young men (and women) watch RUclips and X for their news. A shame the Dems totally missed the boat on the viewer preferences/for the full four years. Pete tried but not soon enough. She really should have done Joe Rogan and Lex Fridman and other long form interviews for new voters/votes from the beginning of her term as VP so people could see her relaxed side. Her messaging was well done. But, she didn’t get the immigration issues resolved at the beginning and that bit her for credibility. Let’s also be real that trafficking of drugs and kids is on the minds of people as much as groceries.
So what extent was Ross Perot right all those years ago, when he warned about “the great sucking sound“ of jobs being drawn out of the country by lower foreign wages? And was that the fault of the Democrats, or of corporate greed, or both? 🗽⚖️🇺🇸
I think most people are esteemed by getting a good income so they could take care of families. But good too if they can get some higher education if they want, whether needed for their work or not.
Interesting. Despite criticisms Sandel has for MAGA patriotism, recommendations he makes are similar to Trump's America First policy ideas (domestic industry, promoting national cohesion).
Just for the 2 points made at the beginning:~ we all have always felt this more or less! I live in the UK. We have madness too! but we would never, ever had voted (-I'd like to think) for such a CLEAR AND OBVIOUS con-man, rapist, sociopath and someone without what-we-take-for-granted in friends, heart and mind! And who is lading all of our next generations to climate oblivion! They might be angry as hell, but they KNOW THESE THINGS; they are not hidden! We have very similar anger in the UK -as can be seen from the riots earlier this summer here - altho they were also right, immigrant-hating, racist appalling violence) We are / live in unhealthy societies; people are unfulfilled not just because the Governments are not at all perfect! It is important to understand I blame an ‘education’-system in the West that does Touch our insides after about aged 10; and does not nurture our own awareness and interests! Maybe democracy should be truer democracy: where we can vote as in referenda on a number of issues! 'Parties' cannot handle the masses! Of course, Trump looks down at everyone, whereas I don't think Kamala Harris, who bent over backwards to say she is talking for all (believe that or not)
Since people understand that they do not have a political voice, they decide to give power to an autocrat who has shown that he will not represent their interests? The problem seems to be that society creates ignorant, uneducated, racist, misogynistic individuals in such numbers that they are sufficient to elevate someone with those characteristics.
Michael Sandel's insights are spot on however, the "disillusioned people" who voted for Trump and his clown car of MAGA crazies will not deliver on what those voters want.
This comment but I am Michael Sandel was very very interesting I've listened to a lot of people try to explain what he was explaining and I just didn't get it but he hit some really strong obvious example. The big problem I see with what he's talking about is the time people will see a socialist which of course it is but that's exactly what we need is more social structure
The people who make $700 an hour have convinced the people who make $25 an hour that the problem is the people who make $7.50 an hour.
Hi Jesse! You are SO smart.
lol nothing about the Marxist Central Bank printing ridiculous amounts of money and the government ivy league bureaucrat's running massive deficits??? Nope lol nothing at all huh. Keep trying to weasel your way out of responsibility it's the ultimate display of pampered idiocy.
Well said and sadly true.
This.
old play outta even older play book.
Society may be broken, but you don't fix anything by electing leaders who will break it even more.
Total bs! The reality is we live in an entertainment society. Too many have surrender character for being "entertained" by a conman and traitor.
THIS!!!! They all want to see it burn for kicks... Well, they're all about to get their wish.
Just my thought this morning!
The 'entertainment' was an additional factor; “I don't care what the newspapers say about me, as long as they spell my name right.” The quote has been attributed to many people, including Mae West, P.T. Barnum and W.C. Fields - and now DJ Chump.
Mixed with the 'entertainment', or part of it for the Plebs, was to cause outrage, controversy, chaos and confusion. No controversy was full explored by the media, the opposition or the public before the next bombshell detonated in the press. I think it was just the lying, cheating, conman Chump rather then anything planned, but it was effective. The public ended up dumbed by it all and became accepted and normalised by the media and 'sanewashing'.
Both these things can be true at the same time
Trump is a candidate of change, all right, but change in all the wrong ways.
you really hit the nail on the head
I am a working person without a college degree. I voted for Kamala Harris. She was a better choice. Trump won't do a damn thing for working people.
U are correct. Trump voters in my workplace are remorseful
@@lisaagyemangduah7336not as much as they will be, if they are paying attention.
@@lisaagyemangduah7336 I'm not.
She wouldn’t have done shit either. We missed our chance with Bernie
@@griffini19 Name any of her policies please
Trump isnt the answer. The same people who have grievances fell for Trumps demagoguery. Things will now get even worse.
I am a daughter of the rust belt working class. For 45 years the Republican Party has stoked resentment between economic classes and directed it toward the people at the bottom of the ladder, and told them all REPEATEDLY that the "Deomocrats" (and I am not one) hated and looked down on them. The entire economy has been re-made in favor of those at the top of the pyramid. I lived through the deindustrialization of Detroit/Pontiac/Flint, MI. There were definitely people there who could have benefited from and would have loved MEANINGFUL job re-training programs but instead had to take whatever piecemeal, low paid employment to keep their families housed and fed. And the focus on "the working class" as a primarily White, male, industrial class has not been true for DECADES. The "working class" is increasingly made up of low wage workers, people of color, and women. Jobs that USED to be middle class have become "gig" jobs. Or, newer employees in the same jobs as older employees are paid at lower pay scales. Private equity has purchased entire industries all across the country, making services unaffodable. Plumbing businesses, veterinary and human group medical practices, hospitals--even cemeteries -- are now owned by PE firms who have made every aspect of life beyond the reach of normal human beings. In Chicago, the two and three family homes that gave families a leg up are being purchased as tear downs so developers can build shoddily slapped together "Luxury" condos which sell for double and triple what an entire two or three flat did in the 2010s. Yes, people are furious. Trump and his lunatics are blaming immigrants for what people like those who funded his run like the venture capitalist fever dream investment it is--the Thiels and Andreassons, and Sachs of the crypto bro, billionaire fascists think is their due, was certainly not the answer, but if we are all going down, a lot of people are ready to burn it down. THAT'S what this election was about. Think Jesse Ventura as MN Governor in the late 90s. A joke. Because most people who voted for him lack the framework or the imagination to imagine the craven contempt with which our most basic govt functions are being approached, just one week in.
Republicans have consistently voted against public education & expanding health care. These are the very things this fellow says we need more of to benefit the most. (He even credited Western Europe for doing this to create a more egalitarian society than we now have here). Germany has opened its public Universities to the world, tuition-free. Education includes way more than "going to college." Germany has for a long time developed a wide range of pathways to a good living through skilled trade programs and partnerships with apprentice programs through manufacturers. The major issues of anger here have been stoked & nurtured by the toxic spread of mis- & even deliberate dis-information. Fox, Newsmax, OAN & Breitbart et. al. have been very successful at inciting anger & grievance as a business model & have been extraordinarily successful at this. This is continuing even after Fox was fined 3/4 of a billion dollars for broadcasting information they knew to be untrue and Smartmatic is not even done with them yet. Even the private Fox emails, made public during the investigation, indicated they ridicule & poke fun at the very audience they incite. Just an expense of doing business so full speed ahead. How about another conspiracy theory.
This is spot on! The goal of the GOP is for people to stay dumb enough to believe what they say, and not healthy enough to do anything if they recognize misinformation. The proof is the expense of these two things doubling every couple years.
Funny Americans think Western Europe has done down the tubes but quality of life and indicators for middle and lower classes much better than here
So, the executive summary is you failed, and are therefore not worthy of power. Better have another beer at the student pub.
Bad take.
Increasing share of GDP goes to government. Worse, most of the total take is mal-distributed, to buy votes and pay off cronies.
The failure is ENTIRELY with how badly government uses that small portion going to proper jobs of government.
And that failure is most prominent in failed centers of blue cities, strangled by teachers' unions and corrupting welfare.
When you try to disagree, use facts, deployed with reason and I will match you point by point.
Or shun open debate and convict yourself.
PS: The German economy has stagnated pitifully in the last 15 years, compared to the growth in America. Thank you for trying to make that point!
Americans have been too stoopido to live since saint Ronny Reagan and slick Willie Clinton. Voted themselves out of existence because there was no other choice. Just labels and cheerleaders.
I have a 4 year degree and have been poor for 32 years. I still voted for Harris because of Trump's very real crimes and his endless lies. 51 percent of the electorate apparently ignored these serious flaws. This professor is full of it.
Also, he didn't mention RW propaganda.
Your anecdote is not representative of the masses apparently
He isn't full of it. You are one person, he's talking about the big picture
Sounds like our education system is broken
@@skis_injeans Apparently.
I was working class for 32 years after I earned my BA, Magna Cum Laude, at the age of 40. I was laid off from my medical records job in 2013. I have been retired ever since.
I now make $18,000 per year, and when I was working made the inflation adjusted equivalent of $30,000. I am a working class university graduate. I would have been in a state of bliss to have earned half the salary of a plumber or an electrician during my working days.
I have very little "social esteem", but it would never occur to me that voting for a lying criminal like Trump would help me feel like less of a loser.
I have come to the conclusion that brainwashing by the MAGA disinformation ecosystem is largely responsible for Trump's victory. Yes, there is plenty of discontent, but the professional liars falsely convinced many low information voters that Trump was the remedy.
Oh, and I really don't think of myself as a loser. I kinda like myself, albeit something of a pauperish self.
..the explanation is simpler ..Trump stood for the presidency to avoid his legal liabilities. He recognized a voter block, said what those people wanted to hear, and got elected..
Well, avoid his legal troubles and also rule the country with an iron fist.
@@kerrynight3271or a soiled diaper
The poor and rural people chose Trump for their salvation. But this is like chickens looking to Colonel Sanders as their hero. That said, Democrats need to deliver real results to middle America. Jobs, safe communities, a sense of dignity.
When you have a serious illness and you choose a treatment that will make it worse.
Yes. The "you can get it if you really try" refrain is demoralizing if economic and social conditions prevent almost everyone from doing that. People believe the song and turn on themselves and their frustration is easily harnesed by cynical political actors who will only deepen their misery hoping for even more power.
s'the same the world over! Some lucky ones educate themselves as adults -and become aware ...that the Govenemsnt, of whatever colour is NOT THE problem, essentially, imperfect as it is!)
@@juliangiulio3147 That is what the neoliberal ideologues say - there is only the individual, society does not exist. "The government" is not the problem, because the government is US and the problem is YOU. Or, that's what they mean, anyway.
living in America is like winning the global lottery. You have no idea because you never lived in a third world country. Keep whining about your shortcomings and blaming 'the system' instead of your poor decisions and work ethic.
@@MCJSA Nope not quite saying this!
@@valdencorr2861 Are you talking to me? I am American, 14th generation, but have spent most of my life living in third world countries. I am not blaming the system. I am stating a simple fact. Human beings are social animals and not each a world unto their own. That is the ludicrous position of neoliberalism, universally discredited but still believed by simple minded folks innocent in their bliss.
So, in ONE phrase ... TRUMP's election is a HUGE MIDDLE FINGER to the US social structure and values ...
It looks that way.
Dude is giving waaaay to much credit to the American voters who have gone Maga.. fear and hatred.. plain and simple.
Lmao who is you😅😅..I went to a maga rally in Florida and a Harris one...nothing but love from maga..Harris folks were so smug ..you don't fall in full line you get kicked to the curb..im glad I left the left..what trash
You're giving far too much credit to yourself.
That was a big part of it for sure. There are many things at play here. Lots of moving parts.
Stupidly, fear and hatred.
@@freeheeler09 You just defined a winning political platform.
Sandel is brilliant and absolutely prophetic. Thank you, great video, and as always such a pleasure watching Mr Isaacson. He's incredible, and so perceptive, truly great interviewer.
It says, Americans prefer Jerry Springer to NPR.
FOX News put him in office. No FOX, No M@G@ts.
@@stuartsmith8155 Fox, Joe Rogan, other propaganda podcasts, etc. The whole MAGA disinformation ecosystem.
That's right. Intergenerational mobility in decent countries is higher because the social safety net is really a trampoline. Good public education, taxpayer funded healthcare for all, guaranteed minimum incomes, student loan programs can all give young people a boosted to rise higher than their parents, and that's as it should be.
This is one of the most profound interviews I have ever reviewed on RUclips - we should pay attention to this information - swings hammer - hits nail on head!
So globalization ended up bad for the nation.
Nobody is asking why people vote against their own interest?
Misinformation and ignorance
Misinformation echo chambers.
@@iemy2949 "misinformation" = censorship agenda
Religious fanaticism
Many interesting points, but what I am having difficulty in understandings is, if you accept all that was said, why Oh why, would anyone think that Trump and the current Republicans be the ones to change that?
@@jonswaffield499 Ironically, the vote for Trump, was a vote against Biden Harris, not for Trump.
Because anger and inferiority complexes turn you impulsive, shortsighted- blind and stupid in your choices
Great question. I would say that they are desperate
@@Benjamin-David they were certainly desperate for change.
Ignorance because of our misinformed masses who listen to fox, OAN, rogen and musk etc…
The Biden presidency was the most focused on the concerns of working people since LBJ if not FDR and was frequently blocked by Trump and the Republicans. This alone seriously undermines Mr Sandel's argument.
Stop blaming the democrats, excuse professor from Harvard, this is nonsense, Americans voted against their interests, stupid people voted against their interest, this is giving it too much credit to try to rationalize idiots
The insult goes further. It is that when one has scraped and scrapped their way through to get the degree, they *STILL* have not been able to to get a job that would make the value of the degree worthwhile, between the repayment of the educational loans and the negative salary outlook that would assure viable job outlook to repay said educational loans and make it possible to purchase a home and start a family.
Obviously you chose to pay for a worthless degree that’s on you
Well, one has to consider how salable their degree is going to be. I once read that a recent graduate with a 4 year degree in petroleum engineering could expect a starting salary of $100k. Someone with a degree in English is not getting close to that. My degree in biochemistry did not lead to a job but I studied what I was interested in. I have never regretted that. I had to go back to school to specialize in order to have a rewarding career. Society does have its problems but people need to look at their own actions as well.
So you are discontent and you then put this guy in office?
A good place to start would be raising the minimum wage. Corporations have milked the working class since at least 1990. Corporate profits over paying the people who make it possible for you to have a corporation, a living wage. Just a thought--it would be a good first step. And, let's make it somehow worthwhile for manufacturers to come back to the U.S.
I'm 59, I have both a CDL and an Associate of Applied Sciences degree from my local community college and I have been poor my entire life. I have watched, year by year, everyone i know, working harder and harder to simply meet the basics, meanwhile, we remember; I remember when my dad and uncles and neighbors didn't have to have a 2.5 worker family to buy a home, have 2 cars, and take vacations, something I haven't had in over 20 years.
People are pissed, simple as that. We're pissed that we're making peanuts while everything costs walnuts and the elite get richer and richer and richer... Eventually, something has to give... And since the Democratic and Republican parties have mocked and outright ignored the working class for so long, they feel that if it takes chaos to see change, so be it.
We shall see which side was right...
You voted for the person who takes and takes, lies, cheats and steals. He is not going to help you.
Or you could accept that corporations are run by the greedy self-centered. There is no reason wages have not gone up except for their greed. Every Republican has voted every time with corporations to keep wages low. Elon Musk fired 10% when he took over Twitter so he would keep more money. They don't care one bit about the people, especially this new criminal group.
Bernie Sanders and even Warren Buffet have spoken about this. Buffet still lives in his original house. Buffett doesn't seek massive tax breaks. He wants to be taxed. As a visitor I was staggered at the weath gap in the USA. Trump won't fix this. He has no interest in working people other than ripping them off. As a visitor I always used to think that something ad to give in the US, it can't go on like this.
Can you tell me examples of Dems mocking working class and denigrating jobs? They're the ones fighting for min wage and a livable wage, unions, making associate degrees free and apprenticeships
It's telling that in critiquing the Democrats, one calls for the renewal of institutions that have been co-opted (churches) or destroyed (public schools) by the GOP. Again and again the Democrats are called on to save America from the forces the GOP unleashes, yet the GOP can never face criticism for unleashing these forces.
Such eloquence. Thank you Professor.
This man brings up some good points, but what I don't understand is why people would think that Donald Trump would be the answer.
They simply love his BS. Organized ignorance.
Sandel said it, they wanted change, to them ANY change is better than NO change. That is the message that MAGA reinforced and the people who wanted change bought it.
Those people couldn't think of anything beyond the end of their own driveway. Willful ignorance and disinformation is all they see on their chosen media outlet.
He's able to articulate something about American society that I've only had confused thoughts about over the course of the last 20 years, mainly the growing gulf between rich and poor and how it effects culture and community
But I thought being poor was a personal failure in republicans eyes. Now they want a hand out from us for their failings 😂
Some of what this commentator says makes sense. BUT in Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown made “the dignity of work” his campaign slogan and core value. And he still lost in 2024. Explain that, please.
It is simply not enough to state a position it must be backed up by action. The problem is that both parties have created a situation with real life effects that cannot be addressed simply with words. The disillusionment is with the party as a whole and people’s real life issues and experiences supersede any verbal promises or commitments by any one individual within the party; I support Senator Sherrod’s position but I think many people will only be convinced when they can see, experience, and sense that substantial change is on the horizon.
Republicans tell whatever lies they have to tell to make their base believe that they’re in competition with other poor people. That message is more powerful than touchy feely hopey messages from democrats.
@ agree that is work for the Democratic Party and allied groups. Part of Ohio’s vote on Senator Brown was driven by Trump and his cult. But we also need to be wary of the warnings of Socrates and his student Plato: that uninformed members of a democracy are dangerous to that democracy. The voting data shows that higher information voters broke for Harris and low information voters broke for Trump. Even though most Biden policies were geared towards the working class-and worked. So an important part of the fix is messaging. What we have seen in 2024 is what Cipolla terms the “Bandits” manipulating the “Stupid” (his terminology-people who act against their own interests). We who care about government of, by and for the people-all the people-have to defeat that.
Kamala Harris also made "hard work is good work, hard work is joyful work" a campaign mantra. And she modeled this herself in impeccably steaming ahead in what must have been an exhausting campaign.
It's not the job of society to make men 'feel better.' They need to take, what Joseph Campbell called, "The Heroes Journey," to self discovery and becoming the true self. It requires giving up drugs, abusiveness, wild behavior, etc. which only masks pain.
Stay on topic
As a woman who went to college l have always felt squeezed economically as a single parent. I somehow managed to send my son to college. He managed to send two children to college but they are living at home. My son just paid off student debts for his master's degree. Only the very rich are having the good life. None of us voted for DT because he's a menace who tried to overthrow the government. We still have all the problems and stress!
The truth is I have a degree. Three degrees for that matter and I still am hardly making ends meet. Working class and middle class have been squeezed in. And now with this election we are getting rich white supremacists supercharge neoliberalism.
Very thought provoking interview. Isaac son asks great questions. There is so much to think about here.
What is IMO missing in his explanation is that people who voted for Trump didn't vote for Republicans. They hate traditional Republicans arguably even more than they hate Democrats. And while the appeal of Trumpism is partially due to feeling left behind, it is also about the appeal of populism and demagoguery. It is very difficult for Democrats to appeal to these same voters unless they stoop to the same level of political discourse.
Like calling Trump a threat to democracy and huge swaths of citizens fascists and garbage? That level of political discourse? People is glass houses...
Mr Sandel has hit the nail on the head!
Every human-created things we see, use, live in, ride in, fly in, etc., etc. are built by craftsmen & women. Few have college degrees. Our society is hugely dependent on these people. They need to be shown the honor they so justifiably deserve.
Grievances and big corporations greediness.
Thank you for this enlightening interview.
Brilliant analysis. Thank you.
This was such an insightful interview, thank you!
☝️☝️ It simply says we're in urgent need of strengthening our guardrails. Should have never been allowed near political power in the first place. No deep psychology needed. Simply common sense and a moral compass.
George Carlin summed it up best; "Ignorant people will elect ignorant leaders, it's that simple."
Plenty who graduated from college couldn't find meaningful, sustainably paying work either.
Thank you Michael for bringing up patriotism. I have thought that allowing MAGA to take over flag waving patriotism was bad for the Democrats. They should have been right out there with the flag - the only real symbol of out country.
The elites forgot the most important thing we do as human beings is make things.
'If you're struggling it's your fault' that's what a 'Meritocracy' does to your sense of self worth in America
Republicans 10% Dems 20% independent 70% majority
The loss of common spaces and experiences is a big issue
Everyone sits at home looking at TikTok. Kids don't go out and play - communication is by texting
The paradigm is moving ... I would have hoped for a better one, know I'm not do sure. The world must be terrified!
Disclaimer: I am not a native English speaker. The following is an AI-assisted translation of a commentary I made on French-language channels. In the original French, both _pouvoir_ and _puissance_ translate as _power._ I kept _power_ for _pouvoir_ and inserted _agency_ for _puissance._
The wind is still blowing in favour of the educated elite who have a college degree, even though we just lost an election., because the fundamentals of contemporary, urban progressivism will not be easily defeated. Rural rustics and anti-'60s roughnecks can certainly win at the ballot box and put their champion in _power,_ but they will find it much harder to deprive progressives of their _agency._
What do I think are these elements of agency, these fundamentals that are not about to disappear? I'll mention three.
1) The educational superiority of women. Only the stupidest of them now choose the ‘tradwife’ lifestyle. Most educated women work and earn more than the men who might be their partners. The traditional fifties family model that reactionaries dream of, with income provided exclusively by a dominant father, is simply no longer viable in contemporary reality.
This has consequences for the formation of couples and the birth rate that anti-progressives cannot control. The actions of the American right, following its election victory, will do nothing to change this. The gap between women's desires and men's desires is widening. A Korean-style 4B movement is beginning to emerge in the US: Four ‘N's’, four capital N's: No to marriage, No to reproduction, No to lasting emotional relationships with men, No to ephemeral sexual relationships. I will not dare predict that this movement will last, but it could well be more than just a short-lived knee-jerk reaction: it could be a way of fanning the flames of the anti-traditional family movement.
2) The inescapable loss of agency of ordinary, average, mediocre men, who think that being a man is enough to entitle them to domination (cf. the red pill, incels, and other pitiful masculinists...). Loss of agency not only in the face of the narcissistic wounds inflicted on them by increasingly educated women, but also in the face of those inflicted on them by technological progress, by AI, by transhumanism. Elon Musk is in the game, and he is not the best ally of ordinary, average, mediocre men (who are themselves not their best allies: see Nicholas Eberstadt's work on the relationship to work of a growing number of young men).
Elon Musk's interests are not aligned with those of reactionary little men. It seems quite likely to me that he has used them to gain a position of power and bring about not a return to a mythical America of the past but a leap forward towards a modernity free of the obstacles that were put in the way by the woke, particularly in terms of regulation. I now have a new hope: the hope that, when he shows his hand, he will fuck up the Tucker Carlsons and Charlie Kirks of this world, and their followers, who don't for a second consider the effect that AI and the new modernity could have on their role in the economy and on their narcissistic pride.
3) The inevitable decline of Christianity in the West, not out of hostility but out of profound indifference, even if Christian nationalists are among Donald Trump's most visible supporters and believe they are triumphing with him. Let's not forget that wokism, which has just suffered a major defeat, is not authentic progressivism but a degenerate form of puritan Christianity.
What's more, it would appear that it is not the Heritage Foundation's plan (Project 2025) that will serve as the roadmap, with its programme to abolish abortion, contraception and even no-fault divorce, but that of the America First Policy Institute. It's a ‘move to the right’, obviously, but when I hear the list of measures I see traditional hard right but not fascism, anti-woke Kärcher, but not the destruction of the three sources of agency that I mentioned. On the contrary, these measures, like the presence of Elon Musk at Donald Trump's side, make it conceivable that genuine progressivism, rid of the Woke cancer, can continue after the event. The kind of progressivism that JK Rowling, for example, is fighting for.
Thank you for this - it is interesting. I will have to consider it more deeply.
One thing which I think may be missing is an acknowlegement that within the above context, *power* is exclusively about *control* over others. If an alternate concept of power could gain ascendency and agency (some form of internal self-mastery, a spiritual awakening?) it could give a much needed and/or a different, (or an entirely unrelated) boost to a *viable resistance* .
However, this has been the ongoing story of human forays into spirituality for millennia and humankind has shown no appreciable inclination to supercede its basest instincts. We have the instinct for it, but not the will. Bad behaviour & actions are more fun, I suppose.
Love your use of "ordinary, average, mediocre men" - a bit cynical, but true, and something people go to a lot of effort to pretend is not the case - America is the best! the peasants shout to each other.
I appreciate this perspective… a meticulous articulation of the mythological undercurrents of the moment…
I see, to satisfy the needs of the common people we should take advice from a philosopher who works at one of the snobbiest Ivy League colleges. Yeah, yeah, that's the ticket!
Democrats should reflect on the reason why many said they would vote Bernie or Trump.
MOST jobs outside of being an Engineer, Doctor, Lawyer, a High school diploma or AA degree can get the job done because most jobs you can easily pick up the skills as you work.
This guy... working people = people without college degrees. wtf. I have two degrees, one in a stem field, and I make jack shit. I have to hustle to eat.
Then may look back at what you do wrong, don't blame it on others
He’s saying “the grievances of working people - those without university degrees.”
Meaning the working-class folks without university degrees.
Not that all working people don’t have degrees.
You are missing the bigger point looking at your own circumstance in this conversation.
@@dwaynejordan5898Typically American…me me me.
@@haggeoromero You sound miserable. Hope things improve for you.
As an older millenial, it seems as if nearly every big federal gov't initiative since the '90s conducted by "experts" has been a failure, from the NAFTA/WTO trade deals, to de-regulation of banks/derivatives, the 2008 bailouts, both the Iraq and Afghanistan War, Trump tax cuts, even the COVID response in certain respects (i.e., lockdowns and too much wasteful un-targeted stimulus). How can you blame people for voting against the ''experts'' for the one person saying things aren't going well and he'll fix it?
Yes! The Dems have delivered nothing for the people. They just kick the can down the road in perpetuity because they need to do more "assessments" on the issues.
Trump is 248 year old America's concept of a Messiah!
If laughter prolonged life, this video would make me immortal🐱
it's gonna take many many years to get america on the right track. Better start today
The problem is far more deep. The problem is more global.The years to come will be very interesting!
Very well said
And Hillary Clinton comes along and calls all the hard working people "the deplorables".
This guy is telling the truth.
What Michael is saying is true, and it’s important the Democratic Party leadership recognizes it, it’s also true that the loss of dignity in work has been baked into society now. Bad parenting is responsible for some of that. Having worked as both a low-wage worker as well as a highly paid IT technician for decades and now in semi-reitrement, I find that few people take pride in work anymore. There is a malaise, a sense of laziness and slovenliness and apathy that comes, I think, from a combination of bad parenting to go along with decades of demoralization from the governance of the GOP and a watered-down Democratic Party. We are in serious need of another FDR to kickstart hope in America again.
as a Transgender im now screwed in my own country. Thanks Trump!
Please be specific - explain how you're going to be screwed.
Our problem has become one of lack of moral & ethical education, plus lack of an upbringing with understanding of character. There's no longer any philosophical, religious, or socialization instruction that could guard against the negative & uncivilized effects of our unreliable communication vehicles. Garbage or nothing in=garbage or nothing out.
This seem to be the same situation in Canada.
Duh.
We've been talking about this for almost 30 years - it was obvious and still happened. How about talking about how that happened!
I would be curious how he feels about the right media and their role in the breakdown of civil society? How to combat their destructive messaging?
Why do democrats think choices such as Rachel Levine, would unite the country? This guy is spot on.
Matt Gaetz leading the Justice Department will surely unite the country. When everybody is made to lick Trump's boots we should all just be thankful. And as the legislator Troy Nehls from Texas just told all of us, when Trump says to jump three feet high and scratch your head, we all jump three feet high and scratch our heads. "That's it."
Like his campaign slogan said, Everything Trump does is always right, just like Mussolini.
Maybe a pick for a single cabinet position was about having someone who’s qualified, but also being deliberate in creating one of the most diverse admins in our history. If you have a problem with her (excusing any issues you might have with her identity) then show us where she failed
Why would anyone care? Levine is a distinguished academic and doctor. If that is divisive to you, then you'e just a bigot. We don't want to unite with bigots.
@ HEALTH.
This Explains A Lot.
When you have world inflation problems people always blame the sitting President or Prime Minister in any country even though none of them could have avoided it. It’s as simple as that and many don’t stop and think about anything else.
I respect Prof Sandel much, but I don’t understand his point. Getting a good education does NOT improve a person’s life? Since when?
Michael Sandel is wrong on so many points that it’s mind boggling. Just wow😮
Can you cite some examples?
Why? No agree or disagree, but this just sounds like poo without context.
Can we also just admit she is a woman and of color. The guest way over analyzed this. And, young men (and women) watch RUclips and X for their news. A shame the Dems totally missed the boat on the viewer preferences/for the full four years. Pete tried but not soon enough. She really should have done Joe Rogan and Lex Fridman and other long form interviews for new voters/votes from the beginning of her term as VP so people could see her relaxed side. Her messaging was well done. But, she didn’t get the immigration issues resolved at the beginning and that bit her for credibility. Let’s also be real that trafficking of drugs and kids is on the minds of people as much as groceries.
Oh shit. Just fed a troll. My bad.
No it's about our country needing more education so they can't be taken in by the likes of Donald Trump
There is no need for two-thirds of society to have a “4 year degree”. At most the requirement is one person in seven.
Very interesting interview.
I think the majority of those who support Trump are not short of money, and many are quite wealthy. Socioeconomic reasons doesnt fully explain it.
So what extent was Ross Perot right all those years ago, when he warned about “the great sucking sound“ of jobs being drawn out of the country by lower foreign wages? And was that the fault of the Democrats, or of corporate greed, or both?
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I think most people are esteemed by getting a good income so they could take care of families. But good too if they can get some higher education if they want, whether needed for their work or not.
People pay attention. Days after trump elected as prez. Mass layoffs are happening. Be prepared for dark times. Again
Yeup! Big time!
A new deal is needed to include those left behind.
Billionaire is anathema to any democracy.
Winners pick winners as leaders.
Interesting. Despite criticisms Sandel has for MAGA patriotism, recommendations he makes are similar to Trump's America First policy ideas (domestic industry, promoting national cohesion).
Just for the 2 points made at the beginning:~ we all have always felt this more or less!
I live in the UK. We have madness too! but we would never, ever had voted (-I'd like to think) for such a CLEAR AND OBVIOUS con-man, rapist, sociopath and someone without what-we-take-for-granted in friends, heart and mind! And who is lading all of our next generations to climate oblivion!
They might be angry as hell, but they KNOW THESE THINGS; they are not hidden!
We have very similar anger in the UK -as can be seen from the riots earlier this summer here - altho they were also right, immigrant-hating, racist appalling violence) We are / live in unhealthy societies; people are unfulfilled not just because the Governments are not at all perfect!
It is important to understand
I blame an ‘education’-system in the West that does Touch our insides after about aged 10; and does not nurture our own awareness and interests!
Maybe democracy should be truer democracy: where we can vote as in referenda on a number of issues! 'Parties' cannot handle the masses!
Of course, Trump looks down at everyone, whereas I don't think Kamala Harris, who bent over backwards to say she is talking for all (believe that or not)
He had a LOT OF HELP on all levels???
First preson i have explain it perfectly the lease fortunate wanted voice heard
Since people understand that they do not have a political voice, they decide to give power to an autocrat who has shown that he will not represent their interests?
The problem seems to be that society creates ignorant, uneducated, racist, misogynistic individuals in such numbers that they are sufficient to elevate someone with those characteristics.
US citizen: It was a choice of horrible idiot, or insanely leftist horrible idiot. So - I chose 1st of 2..................
Michael Sandel's insights are spot on however, the "disillusioned people" who voted for Trump and his clown car of MAGA crazies will not deliver on what those voters want.
This comment but I am Michael Sandel was very very interesting I've listened to a lot of people try to explain what he was explaining and I just didn't get it but he hit some really strong obvious example. The big problem I see with what he's talking about is the time people will see a socialist which of course it is but that's exactly what we need is more social structure
Augustus mingled with the crowd at the games.