Scrap could be replaced with leatrix plus, which has that functionality and a lot more. Great vid. I also use threat plates instead of plater, I find the options to be more in-depth and get the aesthetic to be exactly how I want it.
I actually used to use threat plates until I saw one profile I loved that just happened to be on plater. I'll have to look into leatrix though! Appreciate the support!
Plater is WAY more in depth than threat plates lmao the community literally shares hundreds of profiles with tons of customizability. Leatrix is helpful though.
Some additional ones that I find invaluable: Atlas Loot Classic, Plater Nameplates or another (good for DPS to get a visual on the nameplates when they do or are about to pull threat), RareScanner (I have never used this before but it seems really neat and invaluable), Vendor Price (good to know what sells for what if you need to destroy items to make room on a run), Z-Pearl Unit Frames (I cannot stand the default frames and personally love Z-Pearl for raiding). Also, you should probably mention an addon manager such as the Curseforge App. Long time WoW player, coming back for SoD in hopes that we get the Classic + we always wanted.
Great take on damage meters, Auctionator is essential. If you don't want ot think about what to sell an item for, or have any idea how the market works this is for you. Until you are a market valuer pro, use this to ensure you are selling to 85% of the value of your items at least. And get a quick turnaround so you don't have to keep relisting
The only one that’s missing for me is “Pawn” For a new player, which I’m onboarding 5 come Nov. 30th, Pawn simplifies knowing if an item is an upgrade or not. Without it, I’ve seen my friends sell belts and gloves that were 500% upgrades for them as they just didn’t know. Making it an at-a-glance thing is super important. I also think that Scrap is a good add on, as getting a newbie to mess around in menus when they’re first starting can frustrate them (Configuring Leatrix).
pawn isnt very accurate though, especially when we get closer to end game at lvl 60. You just need to know your stat weights and use sims. Pawn wont account for stat weight changes unless you specifically already know them and input them. But at that point you can just sim or stack stats that you know are better.
Yes this exactly right here, but for absolute new players it's a good "baseline". Indeed need to be careful and smart about the addon and not just always trust it's word out of the box though
pawn is trash very missleading and even if you knwo how to use raidbots to sim your stat weights properly they chnage with every new item and you need to sim it every time it is still trash delete that shit .
Like a lot of those: A couple I can't live without as a PvPer BattleGroundEnemies and probably my fav RangeDisplay as a Hunter keeping a Rogue or Mage 40+ yds away while shooting them so satisfying. Also I much prefer Adibags over Bagnon and Auctioneer over Auctionator.
I believe that he's using the term sandbox loosely and some people have a problem with that. My interpretation of this term here is, vanilla was raw and it allowed for a lot of customization in order to fine tune it. Especially if your eyes have trouble like mine. I use most of the addons. I also liked Big Debuffs to help see things easier.
Actually on topic because it's via an addon! It's my Vuhdo frames I use for healing in retail and they just carry over to classic as well. A bit complicated to set up but very handy.
It's wild they don't have just like a long blue post of every change no matter how small like that one. Like do they just say this stuff on twitter orrrr XD
1:52 - yeah... a lot of people, me included, feel that figuring out WHAT to do at WHAT times is part of the game. being on rails is anti-thetical to classic design
So that green arrow comes with wow pro? Im a bit struggle sometimes to find a way to the quest always grt lost somewhere with oneway paths. Also i have seenon another video that questie shows the way to the quest on a map but not in my setting. New here
Yessir that is wow-pro. It works with the addon TomTom to allow for a GPS type of experience which can be very helpful. Questie will show things on the map but not actually guide you. Let me know if you have any questions!
@@jakubdanilewski2421 if you go into the TomTom settings there is a section named waypoint arrow. Make sure that top box is checked. Other than that I'm not sure so long as the guide is selected it should work 😬
I only really use tiny threat on details, the damage meter gets posted by whoever for keeping track of that. A lot of these addons would come baked into a solid ui addon, i used elv throughout classic but it seems tuk has taken over?
Honestly I've never been a big user of those full UI reworking addons as I like a more classic look so I wouldn't be super savvy to that unfortunately.
@@Vizzient I started to sell manually, but could use an addon to group items in my inventory, something like splitting a bag into multiple bags or slots. Mainly to group items like pots, buffs, off spec items, stuff i should not sell. That would leave the rest of the inventory space for drops which I would then manually look at and sell. I hope this makes sense, do you know of such an addon?
@@dragons10000 well bagnon has it's auto sort feature which kind of does something similar to what I believe you're speaking on. Will stack all quest items and bandages and pots and stuff together which is nice!
@@Vizzient I use Bagnon but sometimes puts the junk mixed inbetween the important stuff, I guess I could pull it off by manually sort my inventory and all the new loot would go below everything else. An addon to group and assign groups to inventory slots would be amazing and it's what im looking for.
@@Vizzient it unifies all your bags into one just like bagnon but ALSO automatically organizes everything visually by whatever filters you want. you can keep your junk, your quest items, your equipment, your consumables, etc all distinct into their own groups. set the groups you want up once, profit forever. it's literally the one mod I truly cannot do without.
Wow is not a sandbox, it is a theme park. Zones have levels and quests designed for a specific progression path with little to no variance. That is a theme park, it is like going to different roller coasters, they all follow the same track even if they are a bit different. A sandbox is more like Ultima Online where you just start somewhere and can go anywhere and do anything. Nothing is level gated, nothing is attunement gated, there literally is no progression in a sandbox, you can set out to kill anything you want to at level 1 with enough friends, etc. Where in WoW you have certain limitations in the content, only X players per dungeon, per raid, per PvP event. A true sandbox does not even instance anything, the dungeons are just part of everything else and you can go in with as many as you want and you see other players outside of your party there. WoW has very few sandbox elements in it, and that is not a knock on it, just don't like hearing someone call WoW a sandbox game...
It's called season of discovery because the idea behind it is to discover the world instead of rushing through the content to get to max level fast. Your first 2 recommendations completely destroy the whole concept of the season.
I can kind of agree with this sentiment at least for combat addons. They are why retail raiding got so insane, eventually climaxing at legion. However I am a big fan of UI and social addons!
Bagnon is trash, ark inventory is way better. Also who still has no idea where to quest next in a 20yr old game? If you need a addon for that you just need to uninstall.
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Scrap could be replaced with leatrix plus, which has that functionality and a lot more. Great vid. I also use threat plates instead of plater, I find the options to be more in-depth and get the aesthetic to be exactly how I want it.
I actually used to use threat plates until I saw one profile I loved that just happened to be on plater. I'll have to look into leatrix though! Appreciate the support!
Plater is WAY more in depth than threat plates lmao the community literally shares hundreds of profiles with tons of customizability. Leatrix is helpful though.
Lol tthere isno nameplate addon in existance more in depth then plater mate :)
Some additional ones that I find invaluable: Atlas Loot Classic, Plater Nameplates or another (good for DPS to get a visual on the nameplates when they do or are about to pull threat), RareScanner (I have never used this before but it seems really neat and invaluable), Vendor Price (good to know what sells for what if you need to destroy items to make room on a run), Z-Pearl Unit Frames (I cannot stand the default frames and personally love Z-Pearl for raiding). Also, you should probably mention an addon manager such as the Curseforge App. Long time WoW player, coming back for SoD in hopes that we get the Classic + we always wanted.
Cheers buddy here's hoping SoD is a blast!
Great take on damage meters, Auctionator is essential. If you don't want ot think about what to sell an item for, or have any idea how the market works this is for you. Until you are a market valuer pro, use this to ensure you are selling to 85% of the value of your items at least. And get a quick turnaround so you don't have to keep relisting
Yeah I feel like newer players might get intimated or under appreciate the auction house and how much money they can really make!
Really great breakdown. Thanks for putting this together
Appreciate the support!
The only one that’s missing for me is “Pawn”
For a new player, which I’m onboarding 5 come Nov. 30th, Pawn simplifies knowing if an item is an upgrade or not.
Without it, I’ve seen my friends sell belts and gloves that were 500% upgrades for them as they just didn’t know. Making it an at-a-glance thing is super important.
I also think that Scrap is a good add on, as getting a newbie to mess around in menus when they’re first starting can frustrate them (Configuring Leatrix).
Yup I personally use Pawn as well!
Just be comfortable with adjusting your own stat weights with a sim if you want to use it effectively at max level.
pawn isnt very accurate though, especially when we get closer to end game at lvl 60. You just need to know your stat weights and use sims. Pawn wont account for stat weight changes unless you specifically already know them and input them. But at that point you can just sim or stack stats that you know are better.
Yes this exactly right here, but for absolute new players it's a good "baseline". Indeed need to be careful and smart about the addon and not just always trust it's word out of the box though
pawn is trash very missleading and even if you knwo how to use raidbots to sim your stat weights properly they chnage with every new item and you need to sim it every time it is still trash delete that shit .
You don’t need classic aura durations, because season of discovery already has it baked in
Good point!
There's no timer though. 😊
Like a lot of those: A couple I can't live without as a PvPer BattleGroundEnemies and probably my fav RangeDisplay as a Hunter keeping a Rogue or Mage 40+ yds away while shooting them so satisfying. Also I much prefer Adibags over Bagnon and Auctioneer over Auctionator.
RangeDisplay sounds hilarious for frustrating people in PVP lol
You are a legend for this. Thank you!
Appreciate it 😎 Good luck out there
I believe that he's using the term sandbox loosely and some people have a problem with that. My interpretation of this term here is, vanilla was raw and it allowed for a lot of customization in order to fine tune it. Especially if your eyes have trouble like mine. I use most of the addons. I also liked Big Debuffs to help see things easier.
Everyone keeps suggesting WeakAuras but I really do not understand what they do. I am pretty new to the game so many its just my ignorance.
I was bagnon for many many years. adibags has taken me over
It's funny you're not the only one saying something similar. I'll have to check out all these alternatives 😝
Forgot how brutal it used to be without questie or any quest map help lol
Literally every man for himself out there without Questie 😂 it is crazy to imagine going without it
@@Vizzient sure is
@@Vizzient Literally ask in chat and most of the time you got an answer.
getting lost second quest doesnt feel good, installs questie.. so much nicer! wasted an hour looking for iverron in aldrassil >.
@@jonglowacki lol! People will rip on quest helpers sometimes but like come on be real it's insane without it 😅
Slightly off topic. How do you get your party frame showing when not in a party?
Actually on topic because it's via an addon! It's my Vuhdo frames I use for healing in retail and they just carry over to classic as well. A bit complicated to set up but very handy.
Hi! Thank you for this! What's your nameplate addon?
Absolutely! Plater. I downloaded a profile from wago.io for it
minimap button gets rid of all the addon button on your minimap
no threatmeter? i will need one :)
Living on the edge 😎😎
hi lfg addon is for 1.14.4 not for 1.15 also plater nameplates,weak auras
are you not using heal Bot in that entire video?
Vuhdo. Definitely a good one but wouldn't say necessary and would be super confusing for newbies or I would include.
No need for LFG season of discovery have LFG build in!
It's wild they don't have just like a long blue post of every change no matter how small like that one. Like do they just say this stuff on twitter orrrr XD
1:52 - yeah... a lot of people, me included, feel that figuring out WHAT to do at WHAT times is part of the game. being on rails is anti-thetical to classic design
So that green arrow comes with wow pro? Im a bit struggle sometimes to find a way to the quest always grt lost somewhere with oneway paths. Also i have seenon another video that questie shows the way to the quest on a map but not in my setting. New here
Yessir that is wow-pro. It works with the addon TomTom to allow for a GPS type of experience which can be very helpful. Questie will show things on the map but not actually guide you. Let me know if you have any questions!
@@Vizzient have to download both tomtom and pro alright later ill check it out thank You
@@Vizzient have all of these addons now but the green arrow join the screen only when my char is dead xd
@@jakubdanilewski2421 if you go into the TomTom settings there is a section named waypoint arrow. Make sure that top box is checked. Other than that I'm not sure so long as the guide is selected it should work 😬
@@Vizzient ill check it out later thank You very much once again
Every time I use Questie is makes my player icon disappear from the map, any one know if theres a setting for that in the add-on?
The man needs answers people! Honestly I have no idea myself lol
is there an addon to see enemy hp? saw there was one but it doesn't work
what addon you using here for party frames?
Good question, I actually use Vuhdo. It's my healing go to frames in retail so I kind of got comfortable using it with everything lol.
I only Questie, Better Vendor Price, Leatrix Maps, Threat Plates, Sexy Map, Dominos and Masque
Gonna need an explanation on the sexy map one 😝
Are classic era addons going to work on SoD?
They should! Not sure how curseforge will manage this but I imagine they will all be the same.
DBM doesn't have a classic choice for download, it just says retail
AdiBags is 1000x better than Bagnon. It opens as one bag as well but organises everything into categories like quest, armour, etc
I only really use tiny threat on details, the damage meter gets posted by whoever for keeping track of that.
A lot of these addons would come baked into a solid ui addon, i used elv throughout classic but it seems tuk has taken over?
Honestly I've never been a big user of those full UI reworking addons as I like a more classic look so I wouldn't be super savvy to that unfortunately.
ElvUi is the full feature packed version, TukUI is the minimalistic version.
Leatrix Plus and Leatrix Maps.
Leatrix love!
But Plus have features that most people don't need.
Questi by far best addon
Absolutely! The king of classic addons
literally use Elv ui for classic as it has almost all of this already integrated and has so much better performance than runnin all these at once
ElvUI is really good! But I struggle to recommend it to new players because it's just so overwhelming when you first get into it.
Yeah I just installed elv UI and spent about an hour customizing it lol
Hate elvui lol
Gathermaps to mark your resources :)
on god questie is amazing
Scrap barelly works in Era
Does the job but certainly could be better. Do you use an alternative?
@@Vizzient I started to sell manually, but could use an addon to group items in my inventory, something like splitting a bag into multiple bags or slots. Mainly to group items like pots, buffs, off spec items, stuff i should not sell.
That would leave the rest of the inventory space for drops which I would then manually look at and sell.
I hope this makes sense, do you know of such an addon?
@@dragons10000 well bagnon has it's auto sort feature which kind of does something similar to what I believe you're speaking on. Will stack all quest items and bandages and pots and stuff together which is nice!
@@Vizzient I use Bagnon but sometimes puts the junk mixed inbetween the important stuff, I guess I could pull it off by manually sort my inventory and all the new loot would go below everything else.
An addon to group and assign groups to inventory slots would be amazing and it's what im looking for.
i find codex lite better than questie for mob locations etc
arkinventory is so much better than bagnon and always has been. I don't understand why bagnon is still so much more popular.
I've never heard of it I'll have to check it out!
@@Vizzient it unifies all your bags into one just like bagnon but ALSO automatically organizes everything visually by whatever filters you want. you can keep your junk, your quest items, your equipment, your consumables, etc all distinct into their own groups. set the groups you want up once, profit forever. it's literally the one mod I truly cannot do without.
leatrix plus does everything scrap does =/
People do seem to love Leatrix! I'm oldschool stuck in my ways I guess ;)
Better vendor price addon
most of these arent even working.. yeah
Wow is not a sandbox, it is a theme park. Zones have levels and quests designed for a specific progression path with little to no variance. That is a theme park, it is like going to different roller coasters, they all follow the same track even if they are a bit different. A sandbox is more like Ultima Online where you just start somewhere and can go anywhere and do anything. Nothing is level gated, nothing is attunement gated, there literally is no progression in a sandbox, you can set out to kill anything you want to at level 1 with enough friends, etc. Where in WoW you have certain limitations in the content, only X players per dungeon, per raid, per PvP event. A true sandbox does not even instance anything, the dungeons are just part of everything else and you can go in with as many as you want and you see other players outside of your party there. WoW has very few sandbox elements in it, and that is not a knock on it, just don't like hearing someone call WoW a sandbox game...
Bigwigs and Littlewigs is way better than DBM
Classic players crying “we don’t want the theme park style linear questing like retail”. OP immediately suggests questie and pro guide lmao.
Not having weak aura is a good way to not get a group ever
It's called season of discovery because the idea behind it is to discover the world instead of rushing through the content to get to max level fast. Your first 2 recommendations completely destroy the whole concept of the season.
Bad take
Add-ons are a cheat code... Blizz should limit the add ons and what they can do.
I can kind of agree with this sentiment at least for combat addons. They are why retail raiding got so insane, eventually climaxing at legion. However I am a big fan of UI and social addons!
Leatrix plus classic and leatrix map
Atlasloot classic
Questie
Gear change add on
And Lfg baltimore at the start others not nesesary.
Add ons are for losers and for people bad at games
Bagnon is trash, ark inventory is way better. Also who still has no idea where to quest next in a 20yr old game? If you need a addon for that you just need to uninstall.
Prat, for chat enhancment.
Prat is good! I use for retail