Another one is be extra cautious with humanoid enemies. They are statistically the most lethal category of mobs and this is for a number of reasons: First is they like to group up in dense packs that will aggro others close by. Not all mob types will aggro others around them, but this behaviour is most common in humanoid groups so you need to be careful and discerning about how you pull them and isolate them. Secondly, in relation to the above point is their general tactics. They are the most likely to run away or call for help, practically assuring they aggro more of their friends, they may also have patrols which while they can be predictable, they can also move quite a distance and can really cause problems for you if you aren't ready for them. Last and possibly most dangerous thing about them compounding on everything else is the relatively sophisticated attacks, abilities, and tools they have. There is likely to be some kind of ranged/caster variant that can complicate your pulling strategy and immediately put you at the disadvantage when you're on the back foot as you most often are. They can also be equipped with nets or other rooting spells and abilities, methods of stunning, snaring, interrupting spells, healing, and otherwise just having other curveballs to cripple you or sneak in more damage. To illustrate I'll bring up a couple of examples of specific mob types. Defias Pillagers have gone down in infamy since before the days of hardcore for being the most deadly mob type in classic wow according to statistics. Between the casting of high damage fireballs from the safety of a densely packed town with a lot of patrolling adds that can be difficult to keep track of, the frost shield that will snare you, making escape a slow and potentially fruitless effort if things go south and their looter buddies ready to mob you and disarm you, they dominate that death trap of a town. There's another standout in the same zone (Westfall) that has risen during the hardcore days in the form of the Defias Trapper. With their combination of nets to root you in place and their backstab, these are perfectly tailored to gank anyone who for whatever reason gets cold feet and decides to flee. Now a lot of what I said could also be said about other enemy varieties such as Undead or Demons, but those enemy types are less common and are mostly more predictable and the more common varieties of these are slightly less sophisticated in the abilities they can throw at you. Regardless it bears similar levels of caution when coming up against those types, maybe for different reasons, but most of all, humanoids are just the most commonly threatening mob type.
@@kierengert6177 Oh definitely, humanoid targets are just the worst. They are even more frightening when inside a cave or a compound, which I tend to skip quests if I have to face them in those places. Safe adventuring to you!
Horde have the Alliance Outriders in the barrens and that sob Son of Auragal in Silverpine Forrest. The outriders are fairly easy to avoid since they pretty much stick to the road. Son of Auragal is kind of all over the place. He sneaks up on you.
Hullo! I still play hcsf, but lightly at the moment. Right now as raid lead for my retail guild, we’re working on progression with the current raid so I play hcsf in between.
@tidesroyale yeah I can't really play retail. For some reason my laptop struggles to play retail but classic runs just fine so I invest my time in that. I'd love to join you and your guild tho in classic if you have one. I currently play on defias pillager but would be willing to make a toon on another server to play with other self found players. Let me know!
@ My classic hc guild is inactive because they all switched over to classic season of discovery which I don’t enjoy. Sorry to say it’s currently just me that plays and only lightly at least while I’m still working on retail progression. I have a small army of alts ready to do Deadmines and even Shadowfang Keep and Stockades. I just don’t have a set schedule for playing hc sf mode consistently at the moment, sorry!
Nope, it starts on the character creation screen only on hardcore classic servers. When creating a new character, there’s a tiny checkbox that you click on to opt into self-found mode. 😎
@@Brett-mn4kl Hey! I use Bartender for action bars, EasyFrames for the player and target portraits, OPie for the circle/radial menu for extra action buttons that stay hidden until you press a keybind to bring it up, Recount for damage meters, Quartz for cast bars, and Voiceover for the quest narration!
Good timestamps! I made it to 60 on my warlock back in hardcore addon days on Bloodsail Buccaneers server. Before my successful attempt, had 1 death at level 58 to a green quest dragon in the Burning Steppes (54 elite in cave)
Congratulations on achieving your hardcore victory back then before greedy Blizzard finally listened to their community! I think I remember that dreadful dragon!!
@@vithufps Oh! That one isn’t specifically meant for fishing but more as an extra set of action bars in the form of a circular menu that all share one keybind. I use it for potions, defensive abilities, buffs, and fishing. It’s called Opie.
I wanted to double-check before giving you another answer. Basically, you'd have to wait to hit level 60, level up blacksmithing, and make all the rods yourself, then dropping blacksmithing and picking up enchanting. If you'd like to see the answer from a WoW classic game producer, it can be found in the Blizzard forums here: us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/leveling-enchanting-in-hardcore-self-found-mode/1796169
@@tidesroyale actually you wouldnt you have to level herbing to level alchemy to get the transmute acranite then have to drop herbing level mining transmute the arcanite the drop alchemy level blacksmithing create the rod then level enchanting or did I miss something
@@kyeema-of-the-shadows That does sound right. I totally forgot alchemy is needed for arcanite crafting. Again, I just pulled this off Blizzard’s forum and from one of their very own classic devs. Seems like you were able to answer your own question.
I never said easy. Makes it safer and you play SMARTER, increasing your chances of survival. Your mentality is what gets most people killed before level 20.
Another one is be extra cautious with humanoid enemies. They are statistically the most lethal category of mobs and this is for a number of reasons:
First is they like to group up in dense packs that will aggro others close by. Not all mob types will aggro others around them, but this behaviour is most common in humanoid groups so you need to be careful and discerning about how you pull them and isolate them.
Secondly, in relation to the above point is their general tactics. They are the most likely to run away or call for help, practically assuring they aggro more of their friends, they may also have patrols which while they can be predictable, they can also move quite a distance and can really cause problems for you if you aren't ready for them.
Last and possibly most dangerous thing about them compounding on everything else is the relatively sophisticated attacks, abilities, and tools they have. There is likely to be some kind of ranged/caster variant that can complicate your pulling strategy and immediately put you at the disadvantage when you're on the back foot as you most often are. They can also be equipped with nets or other rooting spells and abilities, methods of stunning, snaring, interrupting spells, healing, and otherwise just having other curveballs to cripple you or sneak in more damage.
To illustrate I'll bring up a couple of examples of specific mob types. Defias Pillagers have gone down in infamy since before the days of hardcore for being the most deadly mob type in classic wow according to statistics. Between the casting of high damage fireballs from the safety of a densely packed town with a lot of patrolling adds that can be difficult to keep track of, the frost shield that will snare you, making escape a slow and potentially fruitless effort if things go south and their looter buddies ready to mob you and disarm you, they dominate that death trap of a town. There's another standout in the same zone (Westfall) that has risen during the hardcore days in the form of the Defias Trapper. With their combination of nets to root you in place and their backstab, these are perfectly tailored to gank anyone who for whatever reason gets cold feet and decides to flee.
Now a lot of what I said could also be said about other enemy varieties such as Undead or Demons, but those enemy types are less common and are mostly more predictable and the more common varieties of these are slightly less sophisticated in the abilities they can throw at you. Regardless it bears similar levels of caution when coming up against those types, maybe for different reasons, but most of all, humanoids are just the most commonly threatening mob type.
@@kierengert6177 Oh definitely, humanoid targets are just the worst. They are even more frightening when inside a cave or a compound, which I tend to skip quests if I have to face them in those places. Safe adventuring to you!
duuuuuuude classicbestiary is so helpful! ty for sharing!
@@Absurd000 I’m glad you find it useful! The abilities that worry me the most so far are fears and stuns. Safe adventuring, always!
Horde have the Alliance Outriders in the barrens and that sob Son of Auragal in Silverpine Forrest. The outriders are fairly easy to avoid since they pretty much stick to the road. Son of Auragal is kind of all over the place. He sneaks up on you.
Tip Number 11 : Don't eat the sand.
Great guide! ClassicBestiary is huuuuuge
@@TheGamingInvestor Absolutely! It’s a banger!!
Hey do you still play? I currently am doing a sf hunter on defias pillager. I'd love run dungeons or raids with fellow sf players. Let me know
Hullo! I still play hcsf, but lightly at the moment. Right now as raid lead for my retail guild, we’re working on progression with the current raid so I play hcsf in between.
@tidesroyale yeah I can't really play retail. For some reason my laptop struggles to play retail but classic runs just fine so I invest my time in that. I'd love to join you and your guild tho in classic if you have one. I currently play on defias pillager but would be willing to make a toon on another server to play with other self found players. Let me know!
@ My classic hc guild is inactive because they all switched over to classic season of discovery which I don’t enjoy. Sorry to say it’s currently just me that plays and only lightly at least while I’m still working on retail progression. I have a small army of alts ready to do Deadmines and even Shadowfang Keep and Stockades. I just don’t have a set schedule for playing hc sf mode consistently at the moment, sorry!
@tidesroyale oh that's perfectly fine. What server do you play on?
@@robertmiller7803 I play Alliance on Skull Rock, which is a Classic Era server.
I love that bestiary addon that you use!
@@anethystlol6850 I’d say it’s my top favorite informational addon!
Hi Tides, is self found mode an addon on top of the hardcore server?
Nope, it starts on the character creation screen only on hardcore classic servers. When creating a new character, there’s a tiny checkbox that you click on to opt into self-found mode. 😎
@@tidesroyale 🙏
What addon is you're UI? I like it!
@@Brett-mn4kl Hey! I use Bartender for action bars, EasyFrames for the player and target portraits, OPie for the circle/radial menu for extra action buttons that stay hidden until you press a keybind to bring it up, Recount for damage meters, Quartz for cast bars, and Voiceover for the quest narration!
Good timestamps! I made it to 60 on my warlock back in hardcore addon days on Bloodsail Buccaneers server. Before my successful attempt, had 1 death at level 58 to a green quest dragon in the Burning Steppes (54 elite in cave)
Congratulations on achieving your hardcore victory back then before greedy Blizzard finally listened to their community! I think I remember that dreadful dragon!!
What's the name of the addon you use for fishing?
@@vithufps Oh! That one isn’t specifically meant for fishing but more as an extra set of action bars in the form of a circular menu that all share one keybind. I use it for potions, defensive abilities, buffs, and fishing. It’s called Opie.
what server do you play on?
@@Lorasaurus Well met! I play on Skullrock USA server.
@@tidesroyale Cool! I have a horde on there, and I'm making a new one since self-found is out now!
@@Lorasaurus Safe adventuring, always! Lok’tar ogar!
in self found how do you get enchants not being able to make the rods
Hi, I mentioned weapon modifications such as the sharpening stones and weight stones if you have blacksmithing.
@@VegetoStevieD I mainly mentioned weapon modification items like sharpening stones, because you don’t need to trade in order to make them.
I wanted to double-check before giving you another answer. Basically, you'd have to wait to hit level 60, level up blacksmithing, and make all the rods yourself, then dropping blacksmithing and picking up enchanting. If you'd like to see the answer from a WoW classic game producer, it can be found in the Blizzard forums here:
us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/leveling-enchanting-in-hardcore-self-found-mode/1796169
@@tidesroyale actually you wouldnt you have to level herbing to level alchemy to get the transmute acranite then have to drop herbing level mining transmute the arcanite the drop alchemy level blacksmithing create the rod then level enchanting or did I miss something
@@kyeema-of-the-shadows That does sound right. I totally forgot alchemy is needed for arcanite crafting. Again, I just pulled this off Blizzard’s forum and from one of their very own classic devs. Seems like you were able to answer your own question.
stick to green quests? lol whats the point of playing hardcore if youre just going to try to make it easier?
I never said easy. Makes it safer and you play SMARTER, increasing your chances of survival. Your mentality is what gets most people killed before level 20.
Literally the One and only „advantage“ on this difficulty haha and bro is Talking about rather Not playing then😂