can you also look into lorrgs, and integrating the timeline into MRT? there's also an MRT timeline weakaura to track the cooldowns you put in the note.
Wow, I was not familiar with this website, thanks for mentioning it. I'm looking at it now and Lorrgs seems pretty awesome! That being said, I do not have a lot of experience using MRT, but I will look into it too and see what I can learn about it.
My problem is on the darkside of the spells atm, Im not losing any nightfall stack/spell duration during drain soul, neither succulent souls, however, comparing a few logs with same fight duration/ilvl I see people casting like 10-15 more raptures and drain souls than me, is this just rng generating shards ? (I also drop shards to 1 whenever I became near soulrot CD). Does normal drain soul needs to be cast until it finishes? I mean is it important to finish all the drain without nightfall proc? also should I store a few shards outside soulrot/darkglare windows to wait for crescendo/suculent random procs? taking care I wont be shard cap (since Im not losing any succuluent souls it doesnt make much sense to store shards for it tho) Thanks
RNG is definitely a factor, which can be pretty annoying. Not only with regular shard generation but nightfall procs too. A few things to keep in mind: You can always drain soul an add that is dying to generate an extra soul shard Unstable Affliction being on a target as it dies will also always give a soul shard, so applying to an add before they die will give you an extra shard The "Tormented Crescendo" makes it so that you NEED to be using drain soul/shadow bolt on the enemy with Unstable affliction, otherwise you will not get ANY procs. The "Ravenous Afflictions" talent, when specced, is also RNG but can factor into the amount of procs you get in a fight. From what you've written it sounds like you are playing correctly, though. I occasionally get distracted or get a mechanic and waste a proc here and there or overcap on shards, the fact that you are being mindful of that shows you have the right idea. For normal drain soul, you don't need to finish the whole cast, it is just your filler ability. This might be why some people have more drain soul casts than you. If something more important comes up, like a nightfall proc, cancel the normal drain soul and do the important thing. You can also go into the compare feature on WCL, find another warlock, and when you are comparing, go to the "Buffs" tab. Then, search for nightfall or tormented crescendo and see what the proc difference is like. When it comes to holding shards between soul rot windows, It depends on the fight honestly. Are there adds coming up, is there a priority target that needs to die, will you be dealing with mechanics for a while, etc. I'll usually just have one or two shards banked up between SR windows, unless I need to burst a priority add/use seed of corruption/vile taint. Sorry for such a long reply, lol. Wanted to address everything you mentioned.
Something really important to note, there is still a small cut of the community to have even killed the boss. If you are in a guild, your logs will always look better because of fight duration and reps on a specific strategy. Parsing in premade finder or partial guild groups will always have lesser results
Yeah, that is true. Generally guild groups/boosting communities will be the better places to parse. Realistically though, a pretty good pug could also be a place to parse well. Finding a good pug is the hard part though
It can definitely be a pain, especially when dealing with mechanics. It feels bad to apply dots outside of the "pandemic" window, but if you know you will have mechanics soon, reapplying them beforehand is better than them falling off.
This was really useful, thanks! Even though I'm playing rsham and getting high parse is more about how few healers the group had relative to raid size, the process is still really useful.
12:07 I wouldn't say getting an early kill makes it easier to parse higher. The earliest kills of bosses are generally made up of the best players... if anything that would make it harder. Just like how it's harder to parse high in Mythic, even though there are far fewer kills. (In your example your DPS almost didn't increase at all over the course of a week -- the fact that you retained almost the same rank, if anything, implies that it was less competitive.)
Totally fair. In my mind there is not really a defined strategy on how to do optimal dps on the boss when you kill it early, so if you can find that yourself, it will be much easier to parse. The competition of people killing the boss in the first week generally just want to kill it and progress further into the raid. So, knowing when to use CDs/what enemies to hit to effectively parse will let you stand out against a smaller population of people killing the boss (even if the smaller number of players killing the boss are higher skill level on average).
15:15 Also important to consider when comparing to others of your item level, all item level brackets are not created equal. The higher your item level, the more competitive it gets. Almost all the best players are in those higher item level brackets.
100% true. The better players in each guild will generally get funneled the gear, or get better gear from higher level content like high m+ or higher difficulty in the raid, making higher ilvl parses more competitive. On the flip side, if you are progressing this week at a lower item level, you can compare your parses to those of the highly competitive people from a week or two ago when they were around your current ilvl. But yeah, the longer the tier goes on, the less competitive lower ilvl gets.
I usually just slam my face into my keys, but I guess this works as well....
me when im playing destro
can you also look into lorrgs, and integrating the timeline into MRT? there's also an MRT timeline weakaura to track the cooldowns you put in the note.
Wow, I was not familiar with this website, thanks for mentioning it. I'm looking at it now and Lorrgs seems pretty awesome! That being said, I do not have a lot of experience using MRT, but I will look into it too and see what I can learn about it.
My problem is on the darkside of the spells atm, Im not losing any nightfall stack/spell duration during drain soul, neither succulent souls, however, comparing a few logs with same fight duration/ilvl I see people casting like 10-15 more raptures and drain souls than me, is this just rng generating shards ? (I also drop shards to 1 whenever I became near soulrot CD).
Does normal drain soul needs to be cast until it finishes? I mean is it important to finish all the drain without nightfall proc? also should I store a few shards outside soulrot/darkglare windows to wait for crescendo/suculent random procs? taking care I wont be shard cap (since Im not losing any succuluent souls it doesnt make much sense to store shards for it tho)
Thanks
RNG is definitely a factor, which can be pretty annoying. Not only with regular shard generation but nightfall procs too. A few things to keep in mind:
You can always drain soul an add that is dying to generate an extra soul shard
Unstable Affliction being on a target as it dies will also always give a soul shard, so applying to an add before they die will give you an extra shard
The "Tormented Crescendo" makes it so that you NEED to be using drain soul/shadow bolt on the enemy with Unstable affliction, otherwise you will not get ANY procs.
The "Ravenous Afflictions" talent, when specced, is also RNG but can factor into the amount of procs you get in a fight.
From what you've written it sounds like you are playing correctly, though. I occasionally get distracted or get a mechanic and waste a proc here and there or overcap on shards, the fact that you are being mindful of that shows you have the right idea.
For normal drain soul, you don't need to finish the whole cast, it is just your filler ability. This might be why some people have more drain soul casts than you. If something more important comes up, like a nightfall proc, cancel the normal drain soul and do the important thing.
You can also go into the compare feature on WCL, find another warlock, and when you are comparing, go to the "Buffs" tab. Then, search for nightfall or tormented crescendo and see what the proc difference is like.
When it comes to holding shards between soul rot windows, It depends on the fight honestly. Are there adds coming up, is there a priority target that needs to die, will you be dealing with mechanics for a while, etc. I'll usually just have one or two shards banked up between SR windows, unless I need to burst a priority add/use seed of corruption/vile taint.
Sorry for such a long reply, lol. Wanted to address everything you mentioned.
Something really important to note, there is still a small cut of the community to have even killed the boss. If you are in a guild, your logs will always look better because of fight duration and reps on a specific strategy. Parsing in premade finder or partial guild groups will always have lesser results
Yeah, that is true. Generally guild groups/boosting communities will be the better places to parse. Realistically though, a pretty good pug could also be a place to parse well. Finding a good pug is the hard part though
Amazing Krozo!!! thats help a lot.
Happy to help :)
Bro, what an incredible video. So many things that I had no idea about. Thank you very much
I'm glad I could show you some new things on the website :)
simply AMAZING video!!! I found you on YT 3 days ago and now you get out this diamond! Thx a lot you open my eyes!
Trying to maintain dots. That's the struggle wirh Affliction
It can definitely be a pain, especially when dealing with mechanics. It feels bad to apply dots outside of the "pandemic" window, but if you know you will have mechanics soon, reapplying them beforehand is better than them falling off.
This was really useful, thanks! Even though I'm playing rsham and getting high parse is more about how few healers the group had relative to raid size, the process is still really useful.
Just play the fricking game. Who cares about 'parses'.
Bro thank you so much for this
Of course :)
Awesome video. Even as someone who uses WCL to analyze and improve myself I learned a couple things I hadn't considered.
Really helpful and informative, would like an M+ version, thank you.
12:07 I wouldn't say getting an early kill makes it easier to parse higher. The earliest kills of bosses are generally made up of the best players... if anything that would make it harder. Just like how it's harder to parse high in Mythic, even though there are far fewer kills. (In your example your DPS almost didn't increase at all over the course of a week -- the fact that you retained almost the same rank, if anything, implies that it was less competitive.)
Totally fair. In my mind there is not really a defined strategy on how to do optimal dps on the boss when you kill it early, so if you can find that yourself, it will be much easier to parse. The competition of people killing the boss in the first week generally just want to kill it and progress further into the raid. So, knowing when to use CDs/what enemies to hit to effectively parse will let you stand out against a smaller population of people killing the boss (even if the smaller number of players killing the boss are higher skill level on average).
@@krozothebozo True.
15:15 Also important to consider when comparing to others of your item level, all item level brackets are not created equal. The higher your item level, the more competitive it gets. Almost all the best players are in those higher item level brackets.
100% true. The better players in each guild will generally get funneled the gear, or get better gear from higher level content like high m+ or higher difficulty in the raid, making higher ilvl parses more competitive.
On the flip side, if you are progressing this week at a lower item level, you can compare your parses to those of the highly competitive people from a week or two ago when they were around your current ilvl. But yeah, the longer the tier goes on, the less competitive lower ilvl gets.
@@krozothebozo Oh yeah I forgot that part.
Freaken awesome vid! Thanks heaps! Would love to learn more
step 1, spend 500k gold on gear.
Amazing video dude! Keep em coming!
Thanks man B)
as Prot Paladin, go Templar and get easy 99 parses :)
big brain strats
@@krozothebozo lightsmith Prot pal does like 150k lower dps... And everyone looking at dmg parses even for tanks lol
don't suck end of the video
Love this bro
warcraftlogs, raiderio, dmg meters... only shit to ruin the game that was supposed to be fun
If theres shit on the floor, don't move out or you lose DPS!