Rockind v MSP Trooper - Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2016
- Criminal defense attorney Neil Rockind is an advocate of Killer Cross Examination. Here is a video of a case in 2010 from a cross examination of a Michigan State Police Trooper who the defense contended arrested the accused unlawfully and then misrepresented himself on the stand. Part 1 of the Cross Examination is located here.
This lawyer is great at following rule number 1 of lawyering: Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.
Andrew Elias we have clarence darrow here
You ask questions you don't know the answer to in deposition, not at trial. Unless you like gambling.
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@@williamwagener go away
This Judge is interfering too much. Let the lawyer run his questioning.
That lawyer made the cop look like mall security
Wow this guy stumbled through out his testimony. This attorney truly knows his trade!
This lawyer knew everything this cop was going to say.
The definition of a "great lawyer". He know's the answer to every question he asks
Without documented evidence of a "crime", than there is no crime.
Probable cause
you can tell the trooper does not like being on the stand being questioned by the smart lawyer
If you believe that, you’re super gullible
I’m so glad I found this attorney’s RUclips! Informative, interesting, and entertaining 😄
I like this lawyer. Got the DUI charges thrown out because the officer lied. On his report without proof.
Where is the evidence that the officer ‘lied’ ? And the defence lawyer did not get the issue of the ‘bottle’ thrown out, it was not pursued because there was no physical or other corroborative evidence to support the officer’s contention.
@@Shiviandemon a better example would be god. no one has proved to me hes real therefore the statement gods real is invalid
@@Shiviandemon Fair assessment
@@Rilester that's called being caught lying.
@@frsknsld cringe comparison
So basically there's ZERO evidence to support the cops testimony that there was an open beer bottle in the cabin area of the person's vehicle and The People are just expected to take his "good word" on the matter simply because "that's how we've always done it". I see a BIG problem doing it this way because it places an awful lot of latitude in the hands of the cop and by not having to ever produce any real evidence to support that it happened, aside from the cop merely saying so, the cop could just make up anything about you if he chose to.
Hopefully the tide is turning on police and enough people are realizing that all to often police do lie and are not be held to any standard of decency.
Tom Matthews we’ve all added to this by being complacent.
Little Byg Matt it sure was a killer cross examination. I’m not sure if you have the complete concept of how a court works. Basically the defence destroyed any credibility of the officer in the witness stand. The defence made him trip, and step over himself, made him give different answers for the same question (even though asked differently) basically showing he can’t give a consistent story. The biggest thing is though, the fact he contradicts himself. That’s the real killer part. I’m not sure how you didn’t see this, hence me saying, I’m not sure you understand the concept of judicial work.
But that’s how!!
Little Byg Matt not sure why you’re so hostile? Is this usually how you respond to people? Not sure how you assumed tone over text sir, but you perceive things how you choose. I’m sorry for whatever life experiences you endured for you you to automatically assume that I’m trying to take a dig at you.
Not really quite sure what point you’re making, apart from giving insults and making assumptions lmao. The officers credibility was ruined, and that’s that. Nothing he said would’ve been used as a credible statement.
But hey, take a breath, not everyone is out to get you mate. You don’t have to resort to being defensive when someone slightly disagrees.
P.s It shows great form when you resort to insults, to feed your ego😂😂 but power to you lmao.
Little Byg Matt you really have some repressed emotions. I was simply trying to explain in my opinion how it was a killer cross examination.
Your ego was then hurt probably because of the first few sentences of that. From that you’ve spat insults to try and build yourself up 😂😂
You misinterpreted the text, and read it as something against you personally, but it wasn’t.
Breathe, take a walk through nature, hopefully you can let go of that ego that’s really holding you back.
Peace :) look after yourself sir.
Lying cops cost us an absolute fortune.
lmao simmer down Internet Research Agency: this an issue of a stupid swine who don't understand evidence and the importance of chain of custody, not that your Russian propaganda ass knows what probable cause means.
Lol I heard another pirate once say "it's more like guidelines than actual rules"
Parley !
Open container law should of never been passed. This law has been around for about 20 years at best. Before if your passenger was drinking you were fine, but now they can charge the driver if he is in reach of the container. Just another law for the road pirates to collect revenue and power given to harass the citizens. Which in turn further pushes the divide we see today between the police and citizens. It's crazy that they view themselves as being different when wearing the badge. If he had known this individual he would of let him go, but choose to enforce a bullshit law. That's why many hate the police, they are their own worse enemy.
That is very true that cops are their own worse enemys along with the training they are given these days. When they are out with their famileys most are normal like everyone else but once they put on that bule clotheing and the blue line is on their minds they see every person that does not ware the same costume in a different light. I thing allot of what is going on with them is power trippen and when they see other cops doing wrong the good ones are afraid to speak out as many have been sack and treated like crimanels by the force at large so I just said the good cops but they are not good if they dont speak out when seen cops break the law.
I do know one thing the younger people are seening what is going on where as we didnt have ascess to the net and It cant go on like this for ever..
You you’re missing is that cops don’t make the law but are charged w/enforcing what the legislature passes. You should direct your animas at the elected idiots that pass this junk, not the police. If this trooper failed to follow policy that’s a different matter than what they enforce on the street and he’ll be subjected to discipline from his supervisor. Pouring out booze rather than seizing/inventorying it is a stretch and a stupid lawyer trick to get his client off.
Or, perhaps drinking and driving kills innocent people. And kills many thousands of innocent people each year. And has for decades, kill thousands of innocent people each year. And perhaps, we live in a society made up of many people who, despite all the senseless death, refuse to drink responsibly. Maybe on this one, legislators had the right motivation.
Yes, but careless and dishonest cops nullify the legislators well-intended action, as demonstrated by this proceeding and its outcome.
Luckily I live in Tennessee where it is still legal for passengers to drink alcohol. Too bad I'm not old enough to legally do that yet ;-;
Boy what a great lawyer
Awesome work Mr.Rockind. great great work! You define what it means to represent a client.
that was a beating for which the officer will never recover.
And a single finger never touched him. I love it.
I bet that lawyer avoids that cops district at all costs. End up getting a kilo of cocaine found in his trunk
The judge knows "WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING!!!!".
Its the ABC of policing.
Always
Be
Convicting
Everything a cop says or does is designed to convict you or get you to self incriminate for the crime the cop wants to arrest you for. And only incriminating statements and/or actions will be included in the report. Nothing exonerating.
Agreed. Don't chit chat with police. You're correct, they're just on a fishing trip to elicit potentially incriminating statements. Cops tactics 101- never trust them. You're always the suspect, remember that.
About the only thing I'd trust in that court room is probably a chair.
Those chairs are made by the lowest bidder, I wouldn't even rely on them.
sense
Liberals are Retarded.....and only the chairs at the back!!
Liberals are Retarded - conservatives are a fucking pariah on our society.
Don't trust that chair if Justice put it thier, cause Justice is blind lol 😀😀😀
So the p.d. has been violating the law since 1996.
I like how they stopped the attorneys cross examination from showing that the officer had failed to follow protocols, thus the whole arrest was faulty and the case should be thrown out, regardless of whether the alleged actually committed a statutory violation or not.
HELLO!!! Can I get an objection and a ruling! Point of conclusion. I've shown proof that the officers conduct as unbecoming the office and destroyed evidence which is a violation of the oath of office. This is an appealable issue.
Nothing to see here folks, move along, move along. We just making it look good. Go to jail.
In other words cops chuck the evidence for open container because they never expect it to go to trial.
You got it ...its pretty clear this has been done many times..
I had a lawyer once, who only asked the officer two questions and my case was dismissed. Some of them really know their stuff.
that dude walking in the background is really having a go at whatever door he is slamming
I wasn't aware alcohol turned into nitro glycerine after being stored for awhile. My dad has hard liquor in his garage that he's never opened and has had for years and he's never had any issue with it exploding. The cop said they dump the alcohol out because of issues with fermentation? I wasn't aware that after the process of making the alcohol it could ferment further ,also he said they dump it because of explosive concerns. That all sounds like a load of crap. None of sounds like it's scientifically based. Of course I am a moron and could be wrong but it just don't sound right to me
High proof alcohol evaporates. People fire potato guns with everclear. I doubt all the containers have a tight seal. The cop could have had better evidence without storing the full bottle, but I get their desire to not have their evidence locker smell like a bar at 2am.
Michael Vendick well, if alcohol exploded because of fermentation, wine, and spirit cellars everywhere would be in dire straits lol! I can tell you this....I left a plastic bottle full of tomato juice in front of my window, it was forgotten when I flew to England. It exploded everywhere! I don’t believe spirits explode.....but fermented juice does lol! Looked like a Manson murder scene when I got home....😳
Michael Vendick Beer gets rancid after opening.
LOL. My dad still has a half empty 24K gold Elvis commemorative Black Velvet bottle from 1972 on a shelf in his living room. No explosions! lol It tasted like shit in 86' but it didn't self combust! He looked as comfortable as a mouse in a room full of cats. lol
You would be surprised how many people in law enforcement do not know all the policies and procedures they are supposed to follow. That is the fault of the training systems and supervisors. Those policies and procedures are there to make sure that arrests and prosecutions are valid.
Michael in Houston Hey Michael...I once lived in Michigan, and my roommate was a Michigan State policeman...we were friends from.high school. When he went through the program, it was 22 weeks (I just did a quick Google search, it is now 26 weeks). Does that shock you?? It sure does me, 6 months training is all it takes to become a state police!!! It takes 8 times longer to become a nurse...It took me almost 6 years for pharmacy school....I was shocked that all the training they got was 6 months for such an important job such as a policeman.
I am sitting here stunned - 26 weeks? That is amazing. As important and difficult as being a cop is, you would think that training would be much longer. I need to ask a local cop how long their training is. Our neighborhood has off duty cops patrolling a few hours every day during the week - I am going to ask one of them about their training.
Michael in Houston Hello Michael, yeah, report back what you discover. I was surprised as well when I found out the truth
Wrong. It's the officers fault for not learning all of them. And if "it's too much work to learn and follow all of the policies and procedures", find another fucking job and stop your quiefing.
Michael in Houston Hey Michael...did you ask your officer friend concerning the length of the police academy?
Taking a picture of a container isn't always a good solution because many containers aren't transparent.
Man tape finally catches how some, not all cops, act while interacting with them.
This lieyer is an excellent example of what is wrong with the court system, and the country.
This Lawyer is sharp, get his name and number
This trooper has NO SELF CONFIDENCE and likely little self esteem. He looked terrible in court. Ridiculous.
Very prepared, great job following your game plan, led witness down the path skillfully.
Are we going to just ignore the fact that MORPHEUS & the blind man are both sitting in the courtroom gallery?!?!? (3:44)
Arizona Gecko Furthermore, are we going to ignore the fact that gingerbread men and women live in homes made of their own flesh? Horrifying.
@@chubbywife8617 Is their house made of flesh or are they made of house?
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Wonder if the judge intervened to the favor of the defendant as he did for the LEO ?
Watching a good defense attorney work can be immensely satisfying... my own lawyer, like the lawyer here, has a unique way of cutting to the heart of a matter while taking you along the logic of their argument wonderfully. I often think I missed my calling, but 23 years on tour as the lighting director for a band has been a lot of fun so far :)
"When you poured out the liquid, were you following Michigan State Police orders?"
"They're not orders, per se. More like a set of guidelines."
"Thank you, Trooper Barbosa.
Michigan State Police need to flush out crooked cops including trooper Hinckly
It's not corruption, it's incompetence. You need to learn the difference.
you poured out the alcohol so you have no evidence
Joshua Potts
Uh, no. I reckon it’s still considered an open container.
Veronica Gombar can't say it was open without visual evidence (photo)
MrRottweiler72
Many, if not most, states consider an unsealed container an “open” one. If dude’s got a BAC above .08, all the worse. Cases are prosecuted without “visual evidence” all the time. It’s called police testimony and the court is to presume in its favor.
Veronica Gombar True... But once you demonstrate and establish that a witness has lied or committed perjury, that witnesses testimony can no longer be deemed reliable. Defense attorneys often bring up past misconduct of police officers to discredit them.
Michael Carey
I know of no state where the level of witness credibility has been codified or explicated in case law. If a witness lies or commits perjury (usu. referred to as “impeachment”), it is incumbent upon the fact-finder (a judge or jury) to decide whether/what specifically and to what extent they choose to find credible re: a witness. Credibility (from what I remember from jury instructions) is usu. to be based on one’s experience and common sense (assuming you’re a reasonable person).
Defense attorneys can argue whatever they want. Different attorneys keep their own bags of tricks.
This might clear it up for you: even the worst, most dishonest drug dealer - once he steps on that stand - begins with the presumption of 100% credibility. It is up to the cross to tear that down - often lawyers know how to do this in underhanded ways that they know deviate from the real issue at hand. Going back to the presumption: it stems from logic; that being that past behavior is only the best PREDICTOR of future behavior. A PREDICTOR is just that. I can predict that it will rain tomorrow, or even try to increase or decrease the percentage of its likelihood or manipulation your perception. Ultimately, it’s about explaining my rationale and how much you, as a jury member, are willing to buy that based on the logic I present vis-a-vis the direct and cross examinations.
this lawyer wasn't cheap and he loves his job for sure
If the sworn servant dumped the evidence, he HAS no evidence....Are they really this dumb?
Personal liberty largely consists of the right of locomotion- to go where one pleases only so far restrained as the rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens. The right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways to transport his property thereon by horse drawn carriage, wagon or automobile is NOT a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but the common right which he has under is right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Under this Constitutional guarantee one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly manner neither interfering with nor disturbing anothers rights he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct. ll Am.Jur. (1st)Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p. 1135
When did a common right become a licenseable activity....by our servants sworn to protect out liberty?
James Barnes
rnbhandyman
Yeah they are that dumb and unreasoning...They are intentionally hiring stupid moron authoritarians and setting them loose with badges and guns....on the populous this is an act of treason.
it became that way so they could make money off of it. Every ticket and fine anymore is written to collect revenue for the state.thy terribly mismanage tax money to the point they cant make a budget balance. they write tickets because they cant tax people further without igniting a shit storm that would piss the voters off.this is the way to get mony without accountability to the taxpayer. taxation by citation
John Reed and the sheep will say "they broke the law so serves them right"
Lee Johnson
while that may be true on a simplistic level tell that to the untold numbers of people who have been locked up for crimes they didnt commit. the amount of new laws that are passed each year virtually guarantees that the average person will be in violation of some law at some time. I have tried to live my life in such a way as to not draw attention to myself. as to this video if he dumps out the evidence then how could they possibly even have a case without the evidence? this lawyer handed the cop his ass. he even gave him copies of the report and policy . sounds to me like the cop wasnt following the policy which is a shocker there. The cop cant explain why he does what he does.
I have gone through six different videos of this Michigan State Trooper and the black gentleman that was falsely arrested but no where have I heard how the case turned out.... does anybody know?
That judges continual interference during the defense questioning is borderline unethical.
Borderline?
I don't think so. Judge is cutting to the chase. Overall, he let the lawyer do his thing.
I think the judge knew the defense had this trooper and wanted to help him save face.There really is no need for expediency, the pace wasn't that bad. Plus he interrupted the defense more than a time or two.
the defense was on to something and had the cop and the judge knew the cop was getting his ass handed to him and he tried to stop him.
The case law on this is nowhere close. I highly doubt it, either legally or ethically.
This is amazing and inspiring. Thank you sir
Lol at the judge when he steps in and attempts to ask the question clearer...only to fail.
What was the outcome of this case? If you know. Thanks.
Sounds like a bodycam would have supported the officers case. Corrupt department = no body cams
You know that scene in "My Cousin Vinny"? I want HIM!!! LOL!
i had to hire a public defender in my "trespassing" case.
i put trespassing in quotations because i was on public property. i was riding my bike and the police came up and said "hey you have to stop riding your bike, you dont have protective gear." i then responded "in the state of Maryland, you dont have to have protective gear while riding a bike, unless youre under the age of 16." They then told me "well you dont have reflectors on your bike" , i then responded "in the state of Maryland, you dont have to have reflectors if the road youre riding on is well lit within 1000 yards, and doesnt exceed the speed limit of 55mph." They then got irritated and said pedal away, to which i responded "But am i right? im not doing anything wrong." and they came over and slammed me to the ground, i said "im not resisting" and they put me in the car. The dispatcher came over the radio while i was in the back of the car, and said "what are you going to charge him with, disorderly? The cop said "No, i think ill get him on trespassing." At that time, i was not aware of the property lines of that place i was at, but found out later it was public property. So it got thrown out right? No. i hired a public defender, and didnt even get to meet with him until 5 minutes before the hearing. The public defender said "oh this is easy, well put in a plead of not guilty, well explain the case, and youll get off no problem. We got up before the judge, and the judge said How do you plea, and my public defender said Guilty. i looked at him and asked what was up, thats not what we tallked about, and he said "if you plead not guilty and the judge doesnt believe your story, the charges will be more severe. i was convicted and my punishment for riding my pedal bicycle on public property was 18 months of probation, 1200 in fines and court fees, and 50 hours of community service.
Moral of the story, always have a good lawyer. i have since learned that i was on public property, so i could have beat the case. I was also denied a phone call for all 16 hours i was in holding. I have an Associate Degree in IT/Cybersecurity with 4 certificates, that i paid alot of time and money for that are now useless since no employer ive contacted will take someone with a charge due to having to have security clearences (not even misdemeanors).
Would like to know if Mr. Rockind is licensed to practice in PA, he's outstanding!
Maybe Utah?
I could listen to this lawyer for hours on end. He could've got the Manson family off
Darrick 🤣🤣🤣 LMAO....
Is it me or does this Defence dude sound like Alan Alda?
he does actually
He does now
YES HE DOES!!!
Your all nuts. Clean out your ears, maybe it sounds like Alan Alda from the first season, when he was younger.
I agree "exactly like Alan Alda", when he was young!
9:40 "....the importance of the bottle." He's practically screaming.
Damn, damn, and double damn!!! I am a retired Police Officer, and spent over five years working, "dedicated DWI." The one, and only, DWI arrest I ever lost was because I did not, "keep the bottle." I observed an guy drinking a beer while driving his pickup truck. I stopped him and, after administrating a Field Sobriety Test, arrested him for DWI. I testified that my "probable cause", (p/c) to stop the operator was having an open container. His defense attorney simply asked me to produce the evidence for my p/c, which I couldn't. Bad guy 0, Good guy 1.
From another court case I saw, they said we have collected a sample of the alcohol in a vial and labeled it. It can be produced for testing if you'd like.
That's one charge dropped-off the list, onto the next one... Bet it feels good looking back on your old videos and seeing your client smirk and grin in the background when you start putting in work.
This guy is awesome! If I ever need a lawyer, I want him.
He was actually kind of stupid. The main point of his entire defense was that the alleged open container was used as the sole pretext on which to arrest the suspect and then run his license which turned into the fraudulent license charge. He was attempting to prove that absolutely no evidence exists of an open container and that the pretext for the stop was unlawful, which would then make any further evidence obtained incidental to the processing of the suspect for arrest fruit of the poisonous tree and therefore inadmissible.
He just casually allowed the judge to toss aside one of the primary pillars of his defense as if it was irrelevant.
examination 101. Just go straight for the legal violations and present arguments later. Even the judge just gave up. Good job.
Rowgue51 where do you practice law ?
sik59rt, we get our training from RUclips university.
The problem here is the fact this officer did not call for an officer to back his lie.He has gotten away with this behavior many times in the past,and expected the same formality this time. Next time he lies he will have all his ducks in a row.Very good experience for a cop who believed there were two sets of rules/laws.(one for them,one for us.) The usual practice where your word is enough.
Michigan State Police need to flush out crooked cops including trooper Hinckly.
It's not corruption, it's incompetence. You need to learn the difference.
Just following orders, ma'am.
There would be no one left which would be more just.
Brummiebri not only Michigan State police but all bad officers everywhere. But that's not going to happen until this wicked system is brought to an end by God.
Brummiebri every state needs to be doing that. My father was a resident state trooper in Connecticut and I can tell you from first-hand experience growing up with a State Trooper as a father was the worst fucking thing I could ever imagine he beat the living crap out of me my two brothers until we ran away at around 13. And today he has no recollection of beating us where is were like how the fuck can you not remember beating the crap out of us every single goddamn day. There was not one day that went on that we weren't beaten. The best move I ever did was moving out of his house and then when I graduated high school I went from Connecticut to San Diego best move ever other than moving out of his house and finishing up high school with a friend of mine. They are now that he's retired, he still the same asshole. And I believe 98 out of 100 cops state or town are the same exact way bullies and tyrants.
Is it just me, or does the attorney sound just like Howard Stern?
The judge says let me help you........
... and stutters for two minutes. Lol
Damn. I got hit with a open container lol I wish I knew this information cause the officer who arrested me did not fallow the correct procedure.
Man I really wish I had became a lawyer. Arguing is really my forte. I’m good at it.
That defense lawyer is a bulldog ! Jerking that trooper around like a rag doll. Can't wait to see part two !
This guy is good.
Watching him work is reassuring, there really are instances of justice in our system.
If you hire a great attorney and say absolutely nothing to the police you have a 90 percent chance of getting away with anything
Straight away, the officer can't do the " Yes" or " No" part!
I would be scared to testify with this guy doing the cross examination.
Right off the bat- yes or no answer. Making sure he is responsive
Most agencies have policies or directives that permit them to pour out alcohol and are not required to book in the full amount of alcohol. Those policies/directives are generally initiated BY THE COURT, meaning the presiding judges AND prosecuting attorneys not only allow this to take place, they WANT it this way, so as not to have evidence rooms and courtrooms smelling like a nasty bar.
*Lawyer: "Answer Yes or No, do you understand?"*
*Cop: "Yes Sir."*
*[Lawyer asks first official question]*
*Cop: That is correct.*
*Following directions is obviously an issue for this guy. Lol*
what right is being violated when a clearly intoxicated driver, on video, can perform a legal drunk test, UNLESS the booze he was drinking was poured out? I have NEVER been charged with drunk driving, regardless of the fact I've often worked RIDICULOSLY long hours, sometimes until 0300 or 0400. how can that be? BECAUSE I DONT DRIVE DRUNK. "Rights' does not mean the "right" to act criminally w/o recourse. grow up, or face your death via lawlessness.
The cop 👮 starts off cocky and arrogant!! Then he gets checked!!! Lol 😂
I do not know what the attorney fee was but I bet this was an expensive bottle of beer.
I haven't seen this video yet but to me this cop looks guilty lol
Any cop that lies should as a minimum:
*Get fired with no pension benefits.
*Go to jail with similar sentencing as what he gave false testimony to.
*Be put along with general prison population.
*Put on a national Hall Of Shame, like lawyers, physicians and sex offenders are.
Attorneys like this are the reason criminals get away with so much stuff. Instead of busting this guys ass for drinking and driving they argue about why wasn’t the bottle saved. What a joke. Shame on you Pebblerude.
Nigel J could be just as easily said that cops like this are the reason for inncent people being in jail. If not persecuted by them as the Internet is repeatedly proving to be more common than not.
@@projectlivingartists1937 Defendant wasn't even charged with DUI. He was charged with having an open container. They literally say that in the video. The fact that a good 50% of these comments dont understand that is pretty terrible.
ThatGuy what does the judge say at 10:57:17.
Nope. The cop tried to wing it. Never thought he’d get cross examined. This cop got owned.
This is what happens when you hire a lawyer who does a little work for you. The police for the most part screw up most crime scenes and any lawyer with a little time can do what happened here. The lawyer completely got the open container charged dropped because the cop did not follow policy , the cop says " i did what i always have " . Well it was not fair for the accused to bring about a defense if the cop just decides to pour the bottle out and go on his word that it exist and where it exist. The judge even tried to help this poor officer .....The judge does not usually re-cross during cross examination. In the end the judge . The judge realizing the open container was a wash , asked if this was the reason to "contact the person " in and of itself , so to say. It was not , there was a drivers license problem that brought about the contact with the police. At least this is what the police is stating.
Judge was trying to help lawyer who was just unable to get to the point.
Jesus this lawyer is sharp. I wish I could get his services in Illinois,
Suppose the judge would have served the trooper with a subpoena duces Tecum which is a subpoena to bring something the court designated. What would the trooper be able to produce? I wonder why the lawyer or judge did not bring that point up.
I think your answer happens in between 11:35 and 11:55
Was this a judge trial or jury trial? And Counsel Neil Rockind you are the Best Trial lawyer in Michigan . They don't call him The Rockweiler for nothing . Attorney Neil ""The Rockweiler"" Rockind If I ever get jammed up in Michigan,I know who I am calling. Wishing you much success Neil and love your videos
"Killer Cross Examination", yeah because the judge will die of old age before this attorney gets to the point of his argument.
A policy that states that something 'shall' be done, is not a guideline. If it stated 'may' then there is room for discussion. I can't believe they are arguing that 'shall' is just a guideline.
Really good work!
IMO, one small matter for the weaselly cop: Defense counsel should have married the cop to the policy early in cross.
If the cop refused to say his work mapped on to that policy, what policy does he follow? Does he make it up as he goes? "You have the official policy next to you, do you know of any written policy that conflicts with the official policy?"
Same goes for any police report. Marry the cop to the report. Anything that is incorrect? Any observations made that are not in the report?
3:33 When that prosecutor got up, it was 'bout to get real XD
Guy got arrested on a faulty license. The guy cross examined him on unimportant information hahaha
If I were a juror, I would hate this defense attorney. This is an irrelevant issue.
This officer is not "crooked" and I don't believe he's lying, as some are alleging. The attorney is slick and talented. The attorney knows the rules of evidence, and they apply equally to an open container just as much as they do to a handgun. Items collected should be photographed where they are found, preserved, recorded and stored without being tampered with. But, for all practical purposes, you aren't going to call a crime scene unit out to a motor vehicle stop to fully process an open container of alcohol. Evidence rooms are not equipped to preserve every open container of alcohol through court appearances and appeals. This was likely a word of mouth past practice from the property clerk, or maybe even a brief memo, but the attorney knows full well that there is no official department policy that allows the "destruction of evidence". The officer is not stupid or corrupt or a liar. He's just unfortunate to run up against a bright defense attorney. I guarantee that after this case, the MSP now has an entire warehouse to store open containers of alcohol.
@Eugen Lang like sh!t
Lawyer: 0:29 "....that try to call for a yes or no answer. Do you understand that?
Cop: "I understand that"
Me: clearly not 🤣
I can assure my American cousins, that on the 3rd time that door slammed. That a British judge would have unilaterally brought back the death sentence
Hahaha beautiful, it took 14 min to show that the trooper was likley lying, and the judge agreed to throw the owi out
I despise confrontation. Lawyers such as the defense atty infuriate me since they purposely try to confuse, confound and criticize witnesses in an attempt to provoke them and discredit their testimony. It’s similar to double-talk. He gets the witness to question himself in order to win his case.
When the judge questioned the cop about evidence, motion to dismiss immediately!!! Judge just ruled on the matter and no one picked up on it!!!
Why is it considered “Killer Cross-Examination” when the defense attorney demonstrates the trooper violated written procedure concerning evidence UNRELATED TO HIS CLIENT’S CHARGE???
David Forthoffer HALLO MORNING
@dbltrplx... What would the trooper's credibility have to do with whether the license was valid or not? It either is or isn't.
101perspective yes exactly, if it is, then go and look for revenue elsewhere
David Forthoffer
Because he’s an appointment and his client decided that he wanted to take it to trial. His case sucks, but he doesn’t want to get sued for malpractice. He needs to put on some sort of “defense,” even if that means simply muddying the waters.
The cop probably had no legal reason to stop the driver. Then made up some shit about an open container and found that his license was not valid along the way.
If they admit a lack of ability to follow orders in open court, then fired is the only acceptable outcome.
It's not a crime to have an open container.
I think the judge is incorrect. If the reason for checking the license is the presence of alcohol or an open container, then wouldn’t that negate any thing that followed? Just wondering
Gotta love the sarcastic comment about the number 87!
Evidence of any kind should never be tampered with. Regardless of its inconvenience. Always follow the law and your policy.
And fix that door or tell coffee boy to stay or go.
Has this attorney passed the bar in the state of Virginia? Just curious 😏
If I catch a case in Michigan I’m calling this guy. Facts