FULL CROSS EXAMINATION - Neil Rockind v MSP Trooper Kaiser
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2019
- Neil Rockind, a criminal defense lawyer with Rockind Law, is a proponent of Killer Cross Examination, a style of cross examination that uses dynamic methods to cross examine a witness including 1st person and re-enactment. Watch the full video to see how Rockind uses this technique to highlight the incredibility of Trooper Kaiser's testimony.
Full cross examination in the case in which our client was accused of a form of fraud and license fraud. Be mindful of the volume at 36:05 as the trooper moves the mic.
Rockind's cross examination showed the Trooper's lack of believe-ability. This cross examination resulted in the case being dismissed.
Learn more about Killer Cross Examination here: www.killercrossexamination.com/
Learn more about Rockind law here: www.rockindlaw.com/
Cop 👮 doesn’t like being on the defense for his Lack of Credibility. An excellent Attorney!!!
The cop is used to traffic court where the judge ALWAYS rules in the cop's favor.
@yoyo
That’s 99.9% of the judges prosecutors they are all evil and are on the same team the judge is supposed to be impartial but that is rarely the case!
As a 30-year veteran law enforcement officer, I can say that this cross examination is EPIC! Many officers allow themselves to get rattled and it screws the entire case. This Officer said that throughout his 15 years he did 15,000 traffic stops? He is FoS on that one! There is no way that he has 15K traffic stops under his belt. I don't have anywhere close to 15k traffic stops, and i have been a law enforcement Officer (now a Sergeant) for 32 years now. Mr. Rockind (The Rockweiller) is brilliant! Officers need to realize that their smugness in front of a jury, is plainly evident and their contempt for a "defense" is obvious. Officers need to realize that cross examination such as this, is part of the foundation of our Constitution, which is more important than any conviction for ANY crime. Excellent job Mr. Rockind! I would love to meet this attorney and shake his hand one day!
Thank you.
You don't have anywhere near that because you're a lazy cop, or a faker pretending to be one so you can feel cool on the internet. if we assume a 5 day work week, 1,000 stops a year only requires on average 3-4 stops a shift. If you can't do that than you're a zero pretending to be a cop to your family. How many troopers can go an hour without doing 3 stops? I'll wait.
@@SBayne762 you need to check your math
@@SBayne762 or the above officer spends time responding to calls for service as well...instead of just being a road pirate. This trooper didn't even have enough for probable cause, let alone a full in custody arrest. To make such a leap with with such flimsy circumstances (they never rose to the point of evidence) os abominable. Check this trooper's history, I'm wondering how many of his ",15,000 traffic stops are false arrests and how many lives he's ruined. This "evidence" has a hole big enough to drive a convoy through. Defense attorney was fantastic. He has exposed this trooper's lack of credibility.
@@SBayne762 you're either another corrupt piece of shit in blue or a boot licker
I need more of these videos. To hell with the podcasts. These are great.
Yeah they are
Thank you!
A trooper that gets visibly angry at a defense attorney truly has something to hide.
smart up a$$ rude.. sucked up to the judge of course.. ya he has lots to hide! .. like his lying mouth!
what a temper
@@johnwilson6707 Visibly agitated? Is that good enough Judge Wilson?
So angry at being second guessed. Not cool.
He is used to bullying people
Man the DA was thinking ‘I shoulda called in sick today’....
It’s amazing what you watch while in Quarantine for COVID-19.
At least I can take them with me all over the house. Kitchen, bathroom, bedroom and porch. I've started with the gorilla's at some zoo. It's so cute.
I want this lawyer if I ever need one
He charges more than double what other lawyers charge, because he only takes a limited amount of cases to give them his full attention.
whatever he charges it's fukn worth it .. I mean look at the energy he spend in A traffic ticket 👍
Same!! 🙋🏻♀️
This is why qualified immunity needs to go !!! This trooper sits on his high horse knowing that he can arrest this man wrongfully and not worry about any repercussions.
Hold on there professor, no where in this case does it show the guy was falsely arrested. It just shows how good the attorney was and how bad the cop testified. There might have been plenty of reason to arrest the guy but maybe not the strongest arrest.
No probable cause...
Mr Jordan had an original license not a renewed one. He was too old to not have a renewed license. He failed to get his license at 16-17. That's suspicious criminal behavior. Plenty of reason for an arrest.
Yes agree.. but then again certain protection/ immunity is necessary in order to do their job .. but in some cases they abuse their immunity
@@billmiller3425Who needs probable cause in our fine police state yeah? And prosecutors are the lowest form of life on the the planet. Why do they waste all of our time on these oetty prosecutions? Because his boss said the municipality might get sued for false arrest. CYA is a terrible thing to waste yeah?
At 36:56 the officer can longer hide his contempt for this attorney who is masterfully piecing him apart.
It’s ironic that the officer who jumps to incorrect conclusions, without getting all the facts & who doesn’t take the time to document statements made by the man he accused/arrested of a crime (& other details) is lecturing the lawyer for being too thorough. Maybe if the officer had to pay the consequences (financial & otherwise) for his lack of effort & investigation, he might realize the benefits of being thorough & precise.
@Frank Stein No need to apologize, this is an issue that really bothers a lot of people. Being a police officer is one of the only professions where, if they screw up (ie., arrest an innocent person) the only real consequences that arise fall on that innocent individual & their family. They end up having to go through the often slow & burdensome legal system & pay thousands of dollars for lawyers, just to prove that the police made a mistake. In the end, even if you’re found not guilty, your out of thousands of dollars, your reputation is tarnished, possibly fired from your job or out of thousands of dollars in income (due to the often lengthy jail stay waiting for trial) & yet the officer continues on as if nothing happened. Even if you are simply issued a traffic ticket or are arrested, then have the charges dropped within days, you’re still the one who ends up paying for the officer’s mistake (whether intentional or unintentional).
Our criminal justice system is corrupt because our government is corrupt. And it don't matter what political party is in charge they all cater to the rich and shit on the masses and it has been like this all throughout history
CD
Well said !
@rain
Yeah the rich but it’s some others they cater to also thru out HIS-STORY! Idk why y’all like to glance over the racism that existed and exist in this system!
Why are we even in court? They must have known by court if the license wasn't fraudulent. Why are we even here?????
Because the cop tried to apply extra charges like having an open liquor container in the front cabin. Except the cop didn’t have 1 single shred of evidence to support this claim. So the judge is looking to find out if it was even a legal stop to begin with (was there probable cause), because if not all the charges will be dismissed. Like you said, his license was totally valid, and the cop said so himself when Rockweiller asked him if his name came up in the State system. When the cop said “Yes it did”, that was proof of validity of his licensing right there 🤦🏻♀️🥸. You are right though, there doesn’t seem to be any original valid reason for being pulled over in the first place. Let alone making an arrest! The cop was going on a whim and doing a fishing expedition.
This is very EYE OPENING about how much time, energy and tax payer resources go into each and every time a cop does this (fishing expedition = inventing an arrest out of anything he feels_ like making up). This attorney is great. You’re right they shouldn’t even be there, no probable cause (it seems) and no need for an arrest, but since they _have_ to be there because of an officers illegal arrest, the attorney might as well (and very tactfully) demonstrates the officers blatant negligence in how he did his job that night at every turn 😂😇👏🏻👌🏻
Wow. But such a huge waste of time and money though 🤦🏻♀️
Case dismissed... PERFECT
This is maximizing the power of methodically, persistently picking apart lies through examination. This was art. unmasking lies through legal examination. I hoped the attorney would end it with a sharp turn and j’accuse point and bellow “why must you turn this court into a den of lies!?” Star-wash to a follow up - the cop is in a hermit monastery whipping himself and hasn’t spoken in five years.
I love the slumping appearance of the Prosecutor. He looks like someone just ran over his puppy.
😂
His dogma got run over by the cop's karma. 😂
I wish we could have more judges like this .. your honor you are fantastic fair and ethnical ❤
So this poor guy got arrested because he got his driver licence maybe 10 years after the minimum age ? Great country.
And state thought it’s good idea to actually prosecute him. Bizare
The cop is racist full stop
This lawyer is beyond beautiful
Watch the very very end, from 47:15 on. Look at the body language.
Trooper approaches the prosecutor to check in for a "how'd I do?"
Prosecutor snaps something along the lines of "nice job - they're gonna win this" and walks out.
Trooper think to himself "aw, shit" and walks out, annoyed.
I’m glad you pointed that out 😂 you’re so right.
Why is the prosecutor mad about the testimony? He SHOULD have realized ( and probably knew from the start) that he was going to lose. The right thing to do would have been to drop the charges and the case and never take it to trial.
Great work on the "structurally" call!!! Stellar work. This is really excellent work.
I have an excellent memory, I recall very specific details about the incident except when I can’t recall or don’t remember.
5:34 like the made up policy that doesn’t exist but he can remember!
What is so damn sad about watching this, is that there are 3 people getting paid by the state and a man that's paying his defense attorney over what? Traffic infractions are so stupid and it holds up what really needs to be going on in courtrooms, which are rapes, murders, thefts etc. This is why you see mansion style courthouses and military style police departments over petty shit like this. There is no revenue to to cage the most violent offenders, the revenue comes from the most petty offenses that a cop can screw you over
Yes!! I just made a similar comment. Exactly my thoughts! I mean my goodness, the amount of time and money going into this all because an officer wanted to invent an arrest (illegally). And there’s no repercussions for the officer for causing this massive waste of tax payer money … only a drop of all charges for the defendant 🤦🏻♀️
IF there is no evidence, there is no open container crime. IT is this cop's word against the victim
@Struggling Artist BUT, then you are required to believe the officer lied about everything else. Because that's what they do everyday.
@@joegreene6250 sounds good. He doesn't seem like a reliable witness. Cops lie all the time
Damn this arrest was bs
This arrogance displayed when this cop blatantly made an individual charge and detainment without following department protocol .He actually chose to ignore the civil standards of police conduct and proceeded to harass, bully and tried to gaslight this poor man In order to manipulate his perception and create within his person uncertainty and anxiety.as well fear The Judge Could see as Clearly as The Excellent Defence Attorney put on public display what A Unlawful Arrest with unsubstantiated charges by a Dirty Cop Tactics smell like. .The Judge cut the attorney short
he didnt need to hear any more.I trust The charges were dropped and the case was thrown out .I do know the Dirty cop will continue his unethical behaviour and will be well known. In the courts throughout his district harassing outof towners and even his own townsmen..every chance he gets.This cop enjoys his power he likes to humble those he perceived to be Of A. Higher Integrity ,or Status.or A Mans Man ect. He is Full o himself and feels inferior.Both Socially, and physically ,weak character shallow and fake.He displays all the traits of a Malignant Overt Narcissistic Personality . Usually camp in positions of. power and area's to access the weak, helpless, vulnerable. He's A Damb Narcissist with a Badge
This Attorney IS THE BEST!!! He is forever grounded by EVERYTHING I FOUGHT FOR!!!! THE CONSTITUTION WHICH IS THE FIRST LAW OF THE LAND BESIDES THE 10 COMMANDMENTS!!! EXCELLENT JOB COUNCILOR!!!!
I love how whoever is at the podium can read what the other side are writing. Opens up many possibilities!
THIS Cop, is so used to asserting his "authority" on others that he doesn't give the attorney an ounce of respect. He already knows that the lawyer's job is to PROVE this LEO is wrong. LEO's don't like to be wrong. They'll say, do and have other gang members say and do whatever it takes to get out of being proved....WRONG.
The judge sure does like to throw his own questions in doesn't he
He's allowed to. Judges are bestowed total control of their respective courtrooms. They can even ask questions that demonstrate a bias to either side or something that seems or is irrelevant and COMPEL an answer from the witness; if they failed to answer satisfactorily or refused to answer, the judge could even hold them in contempt. Depending on the specifics, such as if the judge was asking biased or inappropriate questions and punished the witness with contempt, then they (the judge) could - and most likely would - have to face a disciplinary board and could be sanctioned or otherwise penalized, but that subsequent disciplinary process DOESN'T detract from nor negate that during the actual examination of ANY witness, Judges have TOTAL discretion to interrupt and ask their own questions at any time.
I liked the questions this judge asked. He was involved in the process. Good man. What's his name?
@Babs Kaz not at a suppression hearing
@@babskaz74judges AND/OR a Jury is vested with equal powers as a fact finder…..if the defendant makes a jury demand then generally the jury is the fact finder…..ALL pre trial hearings like THIS suppression hearing are ALWAYS matters handled by the judge/bench……jurors do NOT have the legal expertise to make rulings of law ONLY of fact…
He's the finder of fact in this case I believe
I was curious about this Trooper, so decided to look him up on Wikipedia. Couldn't find a listing under his name, but when I looked up a self-righteous prick there was his his picture clears day.
Sadly this Trooper is a great example of what's wrong with policing today. Even when you're breaking the law, violating somebody's rights, or just being a douchebag, always act like you're the superior person and you're in control.
2011 looking like 1981
I was thinking same thing.
lol
Copsplaining the judge thinking it makes himself look smart. It shows what a narcissistic personality he has.
I like how this attorney talks to these pigs. Keep it up. I want more of these.
This dude is razor sharp!!
Funny how the prosecutor didn't object to the hearsay which demonstrated a flaw in the officer's testimony, an unknown policy he supposedly was following. Great preparation and delivery! Example of why people should go to court and contest this lazy and sloppiness, fact is that trooper never expected him to contest it.
That prosecutor looks like he wants to duct-tape that Troopers mouth. He looks livid.
This was a thing of beauty, thx for sharing 👍.
Glad you enjoyed it
Trooper of few words: "I think you must get paid by the word"
Verbose Lawyer: "Funny, I thought the same thing about you"
HAHAHAHA That was the best come back ever
wow that really was good!! he played him a CPL different levels lol
judge was acting too much like crossexaminer, risking a mistrial
The license was valid. Case dismissed
If his license was valid then a drunk driving case gets dismissed? Are you a graduate of Trump University?
The lack of evidence of criminal activity causes the presumption of guilt.
“If it isn’t documented…It didn’t happen”
that's cps taught as well
Does that mean if the cop documented in his report that the dude was drunk and that an open container was found that it DID happen? Thanks for your insights, I vote GUILTY.
The compliment made by the defense attorney and not the judge was the funniest quip in this trial. Well done Judge, very funny and witty with great timing which was evidently lost on the cop.
This cop is why people hate and have zero respect for them.
So, a lawyer who lies, gets disbarred, a doctor who molests his patients, a judge who has an affair with a defendant, a priest who molests little boys, you hate all of those people and professions too? Stop it. Cops are human. MOST are good people, some are idiots, like this one. Next time some crack-head crawls through your kids window in the wee hours of the morning, who ya gonna call? A plumber?
Yes I heard of number 87 before!! Lol
@kjnest His version of number 87 is more likely to be 'crispy chicken' from the local Chinese takeaway.
“I showed him the computer” that’s not the question I asked
Is the whole trial available to watch?
This is where I wish the judge had the power to bring immediate charges in the officer this guy shouldn’t be a cop at all what a lying pig who gets mad that’s he’s being exposed as a tyrant
I love your videos dude. You're a fucking savage.
It must be brutal for a cops ego to have to play at this level and be systematically destroyed because of his sloppy police work, record keeping and frankly laughable understanding of his own departments policies.
The prosecutor’s face 24:50 39:38 & 39:46 are priceless
Third time I watched this during past few yrs (seriously). Epic takedown of LEO credibility about having articuble prob cause from a reasonable viewpoint and drawing out inconsistencies of not following policies (he implied they are suggestions, not rules, lol), and implying that detaining that long is not an arrest. The LEO got lazy at his job bc he appears to never had to do the investigative work required to prove guilt. He gets paid to do what he was asked if he actually did, and all he did was get mad for being called out. Just admit when u f up. That's what he expects from defendants, but its what should be expect from EVERYONE!
11:19 it was precisely at this moment he realized, the defense attorney made a joke of the position he was taking on the stand
😂
Amazing cross!!
Matthew Watson if you think this was good watch KILLER CROSS EXAMINATION. He’s older and better!
The judge sure does an awful lot of testifying on behalf of the officer!
*"An officer with wit and charm."*
*ROFL! SO funny!*
wow i wish i had you as my lawyer in my assault with a deadly weapon trial (it was self defense). one of thr sheriffs not only lied but made up a bunch kf stuff that did not happen at all (after stabbing my attacker i saved his life by putting a turnikit on him a stopping the bleeding cuz i hit an artery in his leg, i helped the sheriffs when they got to the scene remove the turnikit and place a legit one on him. during the pre trial the sheriff said not only did i never help the “victim” but was paceing up anf down my driveway and did not at all seem to be worried about the “victim” which is bullshit because the “victim” was and still is my best friend and he has even thanked me for not letting him bleed to death infront of me). if you want i can tell you the whole story cuz this is just a tiny part of it and prolly sounds very weird lol. the first deal they offered me was 2 years in prison and id have to plead to a felony but my public defender (imo he was a decent lawyer) got it down to a misdemeanor with 90 days sheriffs work release. after the sheriff straight up lied during the pretrial i 100% lost my faith in the justice system. my friend/ attacker admitted to starting the altercation by assaulting me on thr street infront of my house and i did not defend myself and was trying to back up into my house but he followed me onto my property continuing to assault me until i (very stupidly) pulled out a knife and told him to leave me alone. i thought he’d realize since i was now armed he would be a fool to attack me but i was wrong and he ran up n threw me on the ground n when i hit the ground i just instinctively reacted and stabbed him in the leg. he was immediately loosing so much blood he was loosing consciousness and turning very pale so thats when i ran inside my house and grabbed a dog leash and towel to use as a turnikit and compress and immediately called the police. i am actually still best friends with him and hangout with him regularly.
sorry if this is hard to read even tho its been almost 2 years im still pretty emotional about it all
Did you have money to hire a good lawyer? That's America fro you
Happens more then you think, I have a similar event that I went through at 16 its not on my record but I did pay for it and I still am 12 years later
wtf!!! that was a wild story bro lol just b honest I'm not sure if I can still fuk wit u if u almost killed me lol idc if u was beating the shyt out u or not lol good to see both of ya ok tho!
Back the blue until it happens to you
This judge is really cool lol. Especially allowing that colloquy about him being long-winded and the reply about the cop being so witty.
This trooper is so smug….and clearly it’s because he doesn’t like his “authority” being questioned. And that attitude is exactly what WE THE PEOPLE don’t need or want on the streets. They see us as beneath them, less a person than them. He’s the type that wants instant respect from everyone he encounters but wants to give NO respect back.
It takes zero skill to be an officer like this one!
I like the judge ! He knows damn well this cop is not credible !!!! ….. further he is defensive about questions asked and skirts the truth !!! …. Bad cop 👮♀️
is it normal for a judge to interject like that? maybe there was no jury? anyways, wunderkind handled it very well!
It looks like a bench trial.
Judge decides.
No jury.
Hi Neil, any video of you running cross in the face of a hostile/pro-prosecution judge? I find this to be the most difficult aspect of questioning witnesses, so I would be grateful for any examples of you managing this sort of situation. Thanks!
All judges are pro-prosecution.
I don’t necessarily agree !
My God you nailed this Trooper to the Cross!!! I know he's sitting there and thinking can someone save me.
Whoops hoo full clear sound
This is going to be a Good one!
Why is the judge practicing law from the bench?
How come this cop was not charged for lieing in court? not even put on the brady list.
Worst officer on the road. He should never have lasted as long.
One thing that was good from this video is how the judge and lawyers got on so well, the judge let the procedure run smoothly with only mild interruptions. as for the police officer, what he does he do right???
Are there clips of the rest of the trial? Been souring and no luck.
I wouldn’t expect an officer to put in a report every word that’s said between the officer and a person he/she arrests.
Well then don’t expect to get the full truth. Can’t pick and chose, that report is not only part of the job it is what goes on file and is what is the “truth” in court.
Something as serious as a citizens life going down the tubes? And thousands of dollars at their expense to clear their name? Honey, you should expect more from people who have that kind of power
In a resisting arrest charge, if the person being arrested was under the impression that the arrests occurring was not legal or not appropriate would that be a defense against a resisting arrest charge of an arrest that was in fact found to be legal?
In other words just a person being arrested was just resisting just because they didn't want to be in handcuffs or whatever, regardless of whether or not the arrest was legal can the resisting charge still stand even in that latter example?
Why does the judge keep putting in and interrupting?
Was the Judge that troopers Dad or what?
The cop really thinks he’s gonna win a battle of wits against a lawyer. Let alone this lawyer!
Are you saying there's no body cam footage
These traffic laws really need to changed it seems like alot of the problems with policing at start and stem from traffic laws and the abuse starts right there!
Ladies and gentlemen, we found Al Michaels' lawyer doppelganger.
We went through all this not to see no end results where is the follow-up
In front of the judge this Cop had a real bad attitude just imagine what he was like on the streets
Great stuff
The judge asks acts as prosecuting attorney to say wait for a question because the cop wanted to speak more? Miss trial
Judge is doing the prosecutors job for him
How convenient he can remember some things perfectly clear and some things he doesn't know. Yep that's a cop for you. Qualified immunity needs to be abolished in every state.
Geez ... I know all the eyes are on Rockind but what of the other atty? Slouched, no objections or attempts to stop the cross, no effort at all. Just slouched and sitting back, almost disinterested.
He has to have grounds to object or interfere. And its a bench trial. There is no evidence the judge does not get to know.
The judge asked the cop the question, not his attorney.
I know right! Kinda needed to be quiet imho ..
Is why police officers need to answer questions with yes or no when possibly, trying to outwit an attorney or sound like you're the smartest person in the room .this makes you look like you lie and trust me a jury will pickup on that. This trooper has an ego the size of Michigan and is likely not being honest in this testimony.
If it's not in the report it did not happen😂
Judge is a disgrace to the bench, the robe and the profession! He sent a very strong message ………..the wrong way. Dueche
A cop that will not only lie in court but will admit to not falling procedure which is exactly breaking the law should not be roaming the streets with a badge & a gun.
attorney does his homework
I know 4 people who got their license in their 30's.
The cop didn't ask why he got his license past his teen years. He could have moved from a large city where he didn't need a license.
What was the conclusion?
I watched this all the way through was he charged or was he let go or did I miss it
Holy crap that trooper needs to be dropped down a few levels before he really hurts someone. The complete arrogance and cockiness and just f****g rude IN COURT speaks volumes on what kind of a cop he is. That judge should should put him in his place but we all know local cops, DA’s and judges are all buddies in it together. When citizens loose in local court and take it to appeals and win there should be punishment for the judge that excused the case. This good ol boy buddy bs needs to stop, law is law that’s it, not oh I know u so we won’t make u look bad bs
"Please rephrase that." He didn't understand the very direct question about why he lied and didn't follow the procedures.
Suspicion of having a newly issued license is a crime. Especially if you are in your sixties, and black.
what was the outcome of this? anyone know?
Charges Dismissed. Acquitted.
Basically it's not a red flag to have a recently issued driver's license at all, it's a flag but it's not red. You put a pin in it. Then you go ask the person. There could be all kinds of reasons they were overseas for 3 years, all kinds of reasons
Final deposition? Please!
How did it end??!!
Evidence suppressed. Case Dismissed.
@@NeilRockind question…if I may.. would this be considered malicious prosecution?
And for the record I didn’t get my license till I was 22,you have to go a whole year without having a seizure when your epileptic
The trooper left our that the primary reason for the probable cause was the defendants darker skin. What else could it be? The man was licensed for years. Where is the probable cause? This good man was arrested illegally.
This judge is out of order😂 omg