I have four Rough Rough Riders. Three of them shoot pretty good but my 6 3/4 inch barrel Heritage will hit tin cans all day long at 55 yards. I was glad to see the Heritage out shoot the Ruger.. Great video.
So far from my experience, most of the Heritage Rough riders will outshoot the rugers. That's just the way it is. I don't know why Ruger can't make the wranglers a little more accurate. Crowning the muzzle might help.
That Ruger is all over the place that Heritage is doing a pretty good Group and if that sidekick up just a little bit it would be right in there Good shooting my friend
Thanks for watching Al I appreciate it, hey any of these guns I have. If you would like to use them for a review and shoot them yourself and let people know what you think about them just get in contact with me and we'll make it happen.
@@HamiltonOutdoors sounds like a plan same here if I got anything you can use your more than welcome When you get a day off we’re gonna have to get together make a few video I would like it very much
My heritage shoots 1" groups off the bench @ 15 yds with Remington golden bullets. They aren't my favorite rounds by any means, but in this particular pistol they work great. Excellent video. Keep them coming and thanks..
Very interesting test Rob! I was enjoying watching bullets hit and counting 'em. Glad that Sidekick performed better and eased your mind. The Ruger is what it is and that little Heritage made us proud.😁 Some of those were really good groups!
Yeah the Heritage definitely took the show on this day. I'm going to repeat this test next week and try shooting off the rest with some different types ammo and see if the Ruger is still as bad as it was in this test. I think it shoots better than that. The sidekick and the heritage both have exceptionally good triggers. The little Ruger is heavier and combined with my shaking just made for a bad day of shooting it.
Great video. Funny how I've been looking for the older 9 shot Hi Standard and H&R .22 revolvers...hard to find. People really hang onto theirs. Then suddenly found the Diamond Back Sidekick. I'm looking forward to buying one.
I got my high standard double 9 with .22lr and .22 magnum cylinders for myself for my birthday 16 years ago for $175 at a pawn shop. Even if you get a diamondback, if you ever find a deal on a double 9, I definitely recommend grabbing it.
I have a sidekick and the rough rider. I prefer the 9 shot capacity, swing out cylinder and DA/SA trigger of the Sidekick. The front sight is supposed to be taller than necessary so you can file your front side down to match the point of impact of the ammo you intend to carry in the gun. Very few people are aware of this or actually do it. I had to file down nearly half of my front sight to bring my point of impact up to my point of aim on my Sidekick.
I have 2 R.R.'s and bought both on sale for $99.99. They're both 6.5" barrels and I did buy the .22 WMR cylinders as well. I've owned them about 4 years and my son and I have put 1000's of rounds through them with no failures. mine are both accurate and shoot to point of aim. It's not hard to shoot quarter size groups at 25 yards from a rest. The .22LR is a bit more accurateI. I have also used it on squirrels, rabbits, ground hogs and s few musk rats. I've had a lot of fun with them, especially for the price, they're hard to beat. Get one, everyone wants and likes to shoot it.
Great comparison video. Thanks! I have a 6” Heritage Classic .22LR/WMR that I haven’t shot and was considering trading, but that accuracy is compelling. Blessings 😊
Hi Rob looks like fun! I am disappointed in the Ruger but liking the Sidekick! I hope it keeps getting better as it breaks in more for you on the keyholing, looks like its close now! I wouldnt pull the other video yet but maybe do a comment saying its getting better and direct them to this video :D that heritage did really nice! have a good night thanks for sharing!
Thank you nutty I hope that the sidekick after some more rounds will settle in. Maybe after the barrel leads a little bit it will shoot better. Thanks for watching I appreciate you and hope you're doing well
Yeah I thought it was a pretty good test although I didn't shoot my Wrangler very good on that day. I'm going to repeat this test hopefully next week and shoot off of a rest hopefully I'll get better results
I don't own a Diamondback Sidekick yet but I do own the Ruger Wrangler and a Heritage Roughrider. My Roughrider will out shoot my Ruger Wrangler in the accuracy(point of aim) and precision(group size) categories(at 7 yards) all day long. But, it's not as wild as your Ruger Wrangler. The Roughrider's trigger is superior to the Ruger Wrangler's trigger. However, the Wrangler after shooting it with about 1000 rounds of .22 LR it has gotten better. Something is wrong with your Wrangler: Trigger pull, Barrel, or Sights. Something is causing very bad groups. My Ruger Wrangler, out of the box, had a loose Torx screw that is in front of the trigger guard that I had to tighten up. Check all of your Wrangler's Torx screws for looseness. Since bad groupings are happening with all four brands of .22 LR ammo, it's the gun. The Sidekick's(single action) and Roughrider's triggers are much cleaner breaks and lighter pulls than the Ruger Wrangler. But the Wrangler shouldn't be that bad of group spread. To shoot the Wrangler accurately with a good group, I have to grip the gun tight and smoothly press the trigger straight to the rear until it breaks and fires. Otherwise, you will jerk the Wrangler.
Ralph I do believe my Ruger shoots better than this I have shot it better than this in the past. End of the three guns that definitely has the most stiff trigger pull. And since I've had covered I shake like a leaf. I'm going to repeat this test hopefully next week and shoot them all off of arrest and see if I can't redeem the Ruger a little bit. Although I have always known that the heritage will shoot better than the Ruger. And it appears that the sidekick is going to shoot better than the Ruger. But I do think the Ruger will do better than what I did with it on that day. Thanks for watching I appreciate it hope you're doing well
I do believe my Wrangler shoots better than I shot it on this day. I'm going to redo this test hopefully next week and shoot off of a rest and see if I can't redeem the Ruger a little bit. Although I don't think it will ever be as accurate as the little heritage or the sidekick but I think it should be closer than what it was. I appreciate you watching hope you're doing well
Damm, I've been contemplating purchasing my first revolver - and you tested the 3 that I have been looking at. I think I will pick up the heritage - it will be my revolver training starter firearm. If I enjoy handling a revolver, then I see myself graduating to a larger caliber - but I must admit that those bigger caliber revolvers sure are pricey, even used.
Enjoyed the video. The Wrangler really surprised me. I need to shoot mine more to see if it's bad too. The Heritage is smoking. And glad the sidekick proved Itself in better light today. Take care
Scott I actually think the Ruger shoots better than that the Diamondback and the Heritage have really lite single action triggers The Ruger trigger is not as good and I was shaking like a leave I do believe it shoots better than that yeah
Scott I actually think the Ruger shoots better than that the Diamondback and the Heritage have really lite single action triggers The Ruger trigger is not as good and I was shaking like a leave I do believe it shoots better than that yeah
My 1st 9 shots with my Out Of The Box sidekick were low like yours. I learned on my next nine where to hold the blade sight in the rear sight. I'm dead on now!
Yes I kind of think the Diamondback has redeemed itself. It does have a really good single action trigger, and the advantage of a nine round swing out cylinder with interchangeable Magnum makes it a pretty good option for a lot of uses. And I thought it was cool because it's basically a remake of the old high standard double nine. Thanks for watching I appreciate it
@@HamiltonOutdoors I’ve got a certain sentimental attachment to the High Standard. It’s a neat old revolver. I’d really love the Diamondbacks be great honestly 👍🏻 all the best Mr Hamilton. Appreciate the videos
Impressive test. I have had Ruger single 6,and Heritage. I cannot find Sidekick anywhere in NC. It reminds me of a pistol from the 60'S. I thank Hi Syta
I just happened to find this one in our local pawn shop. It has been there for a little while seems nobody wanted to buy it. Probably because it's new and they never heard of it. So I just got lucky
I bought a Sidekick yesterday and haven't shot it yet but it looks and feels really good in the hand and I like the fact that it is double action and a 9 shot revolver. It is also a convertable too shoot 22 magnum.
Great video!! I had a heritage rough rider Great little gun for 10 year's i actually traded it in on a ruger wrangler today with pearl grips i shot 12 rounds with it at 40 ft. Hit my little spinner targets good i actually really like the ruger. But i enjoyed the heritage also but now i have a ruger to go with my little bride of 50 year's ruger convertible 9mm/357 . Thanks for sharing be safe have fun
VERY disappointing!!!! I dont have the Heritage or Sidekick but a couple Single Sixes and a Colt still waiting on my Birds Head. When I do maybe I compair these three just as you have. GOOD VIDEO! I wouldnt take video down. But maybe LINK this video showing No problems. Go easy there "Ol man". Its a marathon ya know!! God bless your buddy CW
Thanks for watching CW I appreciate it. I know the Ruger shoots a little better than that I was just having a really shaky day, and it does have a stiffer trigger than the other two. Causing me to throw a lot of rounds I think. I'm going to repeat this test off of the rest and see how it compares. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the review. Looks like the Sidekick SA/DA may not be at fault for grouping drop. Heritage is good for the money SA. Scrap the Ruger at that cost 😮 What velocity for each round? Barrel lengths and twist?
When we bought our Heritage the Sidekick wasn't around...ours has been dependable, not the ultimate tack driver but decent enough...although the Ruger might be sturdier, it lacks features we like about the Heritage...the Sidekick looks promising but at this time it would be far down our wishlist...small note: the most accurate ammo we have ever shot out of the Heritage was CCI target shorts (830 fps)...good video...
Great video. I have two of the Heritage 4 3/4 inch barrels. Neither one of them will hit the ground.... lol. I also have the Heritage 6 inch barrel which holds a two inch pattern at 50 yrds from a bench rest.
Yeah I've heard of other people doing that I've never seen any body say whether it's significantly helped or not but it'd be worth a shot. Thanks for watching I appreciate it
very comprehensive and professional video, thank you. i have both the ruger wrangler and heritage roughrider, as well as a ruger single six and bearcat. my wrangler groups better than yours, to low left, similar spacing to your roughrider, so it’s on me, not the piece. i trust ruger products so either a used single six or new wrangler would be my choice. my roughrider shoots fine but i worry that a heritage is simply built less strong than a ruger. why not send your video to ruger and see what can be done about fixing your wrangler?
I'm sure my Wrangler shoots better than that I have shot it better than that. But the Diamondback and the heritage have extremely nice triggers and very light. The Ruger had the stiffest trigger of them all. And since covid I shake a lot too. I'm going to repeat this test hopefully next week and I'm going to be shooting off the rest and see if it's still looks that bad for the Ruger. Thanks for watching I appreciate it and I hope you're doing well
Quick question... I want to replace my Wrangler with a Sidekick. I already have a cutout foam space in my gun safe (which was cutout to fit my Wrangler). Will this also fit the Sidekick? How similar are the various dimensions of both guns' parts? I don't have foam space in the space for another gun because my other guns have pretty much filled it up.
Heritage Manufacturing has a sale on their Cedar Wood Civil War commemorative display case for the Heritage Rough Rider revolver. It's selling for $19.99.
With a little sight adjustment the Sidekick might be as good as the Heritage. I found out that a HKS # 22K speedloader works great for loading spare Heritage cylinders in a hurry. But also found out it doesn't work as smooth on a spare Wrangler cylinder because of tighter chambers. One Wrangler chamber was quite a bit tighter than the rest testing with different brands. Might be the issue in accuracy when they inset the chambers incorrectly. Good video. 👍
Thanks for watching bill I appreciate it I'm going to be repeating this test possibly next week and we'll be shooting off rest to see if I can do a little bit better. Hope you're doing well
@@HamiltonOutdoors Maybe with a little polishing the chambers & barrel it will help the Wrangler. I have old eyes but it looks like where the chambers are slightly inletted to let cartridges set flush they aren't consistently machined. Mine isn't quite as accurate as the RRs.
Enjoyed the video I was kinda on the fence for the sidekick but now feel more confident in getting one. The Heritage are awesome shooters even though I have 3 rough riders and both barkeep models I may just shop around for a few more. As for the wrangler will probably unload it after I get the sidekick. Happy trails to you Sir.
You sounds like me Stephen. Though I’m a few behind. I got the 4.75”, the 16”, and the 2” barkeep. Want to get one of every barrel length, probably different grips or cylinders to miss match. Heritage just keeps making new ones tho lol making it hard to keep up.
From what I can see from other videos, most people have ground down the front sight a smidge. Shoots low for some reason. But having a double action 9 shot is really attractive to me. Picked one up for $300 and I would say it's well worth it.
Great video. I have a 6 inch barrel, 6 round, Heritage and it is a .22 lr tack driver. Now I want the Sidekick for the swing out cylander mostly. From all the videos I've seen on it, the Ruger looks like a POS if you actually want to hit anything. BTW, Heritage does make a 9 shot single action if you can find one. Anyway, thank you for the great video.
Definately looks like grouping the Heritage beats them all. But the thing about guns and trying to zero them? The warmer the barrel gets or the colder it gets affects where the projectile hits. But between thesthree pistols it seems the Heritage with grouping and accuracy whipped some ass on this range. With some pretty expensive ammo.
I really like my Sidekick. This is a great video showing accuracy and different brands of ammo. All the 22's I've ever owned are picky about ammo brands. My S&W loved CCI and did not like Remington thunderbolts for example. I'd pull the other video. Anyway great video! Thanks!
I bought a Heritage 3 weeks ago. I have NEVER been able to shot a gun so well. 600 rounds and I never had a failure to fire. My Sidekick does not fire one out of 20 shots and with the magnum it drops to 1 out of 9! I have had the Sidekick back to the shop twice! Totally disappointed!
That Heritage is smoking!!! Do you have a Mag Cylinder w/ it as well ? If so, how does the Heritage do w/ Mags? I'm impressed ! Good VIDEO! I'm glad the Donors ammo shot the best on the LAST GUN too!!! Great guy!
Yes I have one Magnum cylinder for the Heritage. That I interchanged in all of my heritage roughrider guns. They all seem to shoot 22 magnum fairly well.
Well, I'm waiting to p/u my new Heritage, I've been watching a ton of great videos learning as much as possible, here are some things, the barrel is made for 22mag the 22lr. is 2 thousands smaller bullet this causes a lost of accuracy, so when looking to sight in for accuracy use the 22mag, , ADJUSTING sights, WINDAGE=before bending the front blade check the barrel tightness it's threaded into the frame, sometimes it can be clocked ,that is, tightened or loosened ( if loosened use blue loktight blue only). Remove and reinstall to correct location, use location scribe mark on the bottom side of the barrel to frame . ELEVATION= if shooting low, put a white little dot on the back side of blade (when you get it dead on) you can file off the top of blade to the top of your white dot . These two adjustments should make your guns aim near perfect, remember use the 22mag. rds they fit the barrel tighter inside more accurately. The guy I saw that did these two adjustments was shooting 1 inch groups at 25 ft I thought that was very VERY IMPRESSIVE !
Got the sidekick. Royal wast of time and ammo. It's going right back in the box as a trade in. Finish wear after one range trip and it won't group well. Had to file sight to bring it to poa.
My new Ruger Wrangle key holed and had horrible accuracy so I sent it back to Ruger. Ruger sent me replacement and it shoots very well. They sent me a test target to prove its accuracy so they probably hand selected my replacement.
I was looking at the Diamond Back too. I went with the Heritage Rough Rider. I was thinking about the Ruger, not now. I have a Single Six though that shoots well.
Ruger came out with the 7.5" Wrangler. I bought one early this year 2024. If you can find a Ruger Bearcat, it is of much higher quality than any of the three guns tested. My compact 4" Bearcat with fixed sight can compete with my Ruger Mark III target pistol in accuracy and reliability out to 50 yards.
Good video Rob, appreciate the time you put in making that target, I was really impressed with the rough rider groups, I think the wrangler was out drinking all night.
Just for giggles, when you get off your “hell week”, next time you shoot the Diamond back, use your barkeep ejector rod and do them manually. This will tell if it’s a tight chamber or the ejector rod assembly hanging up. This will help eliminate the actual cylinder, or not. If they come out smoothly, then it’s something to do with the ejector rod workings. Maybe the rod is bent. Just my brain working to help you figure all this out.
The Ruger surprised me. My Ruger shoots better than my Heritage. I can get consistent hits at 15 yards with my Ruger Wrangler on soda cans, where the Heritage shoots a larger group, causing some missed shots. Overall, both are fun plinkers, and I'm thinking about grabbing a sidekick next.
I was also surprised at the poor accuracy from the wrangler. While I have no Rough Riders or Diamondbacks, I’ve heard good things about them. I do have a 1973 model Single Six and a new Wrangler and both easily take tree rats out at 40 yards or so, and the two other Wranglers I have access to shoot similarly well. But.. I did pick up a new Ruger American stainless target rifle that is less accurate at 50 yards than ANY other gun I own either pistol or rifle. Perhaps it is just luck of the draw with your Wrangler and my American. Ruger customer service will usually be happy to make it right tho and want me to return my rifle. Perhaps they would like a chance to satisfy you with your Wrangler as well.
I wouldn't say it's totally the guns fault. I do think it shoots better than that I've shot it better than that. Hope the three guns it does have the most stiff trigger and therefore a little harder to shoot especially when you shake as bad as I do. If you can find one for rental and try it first or if somebody you know has one would be the way to go. Like I said judging a gun's accuracy by me is doing it and Injustice. Although I will admit the Ruger is less accurate than the heritage or the Diamondback for that matter
I own a Heritage Rough Rider and I love it just simply because it’s accurate and it’s fun. I’m not impressed by the Wrangler and I’m certainly impressed by the Sidekick. It looks pretty cool and I’ve been wanting one ever since I saw them the first time.
I have a Heritage Rough Rider 6.5" and Diamondback Sidekick. Think I will skip the Ruger Wrangler. I have several Ruger firearms that I enjoy but that Wrangler is not up to snuff. Interesting that the cheapest gun in the test out shoots the other two.
I have been looking to buy one of these less expensive revolvers. The Heritage " Bar Keep" is automatically out because of the "pookie stick". The Rough RIder seems pretty good. I do like the mechanics of the Sidekick. On the fence with the Ruger accuracy. I would like to see how the Sidekick runs after a few thousand rounds.
I think they're all decent guns in there on right, I do believe the Ruger shoots better than that I was just having a bad day with it we're going to redo this test. It does have the hardest trigger of the three guns tested. I'm going to try and retested and shoot them off the rest to try and eliminate myself
Did you end up getting one? I have good experience with the rough riders. Have a 4.75”, 16”, and a 2” barkeep. Obviously the barkeep won’t be accurate past 10 yards but the other two are pretty dag on good out to 25. Can do pretty good further, probably in better hands than mine. I know the barkeep is impractical with the reloading but it was too cool and dumb not to get. Heritage needs to quit making new ones cause I want to get one of every barrel length lol, gonna drain my wallet.
I have owned 3 Ruger's and Mine have never shot anything like yours 2 weekends ago I had groups 10 yards all six Center and touching with CCi Yours I dont know whats going on
Oh I know what's going on with mine. I'm shooting them lol I suck at shooting anymore. I got cataracts formed over my eyes just waiting till I go blind so they'll remove them. It's not the gun I'm sure. Between the shaking and can't see the sites
I'm hoping after I put a few more rounds through it that the barrel breaks in and gets a little leading in it it will shoot better thanks Jeff I appreciate you watching
I've got all three guns. Mine all shoot better. The Wranglers sights were closest to poa/poi out if the box. I tweaked the front sights on both the Sidekick and Roughrider. I tweaked the trigger a little on the Wrangler so that they all pull 2.5-3 lbs. All three of mine are reasonably accurate for what they are. Luckily, my Ruger is way more accurate than yours. All three of my guns are "can accurate" at 40 yards. I changed the grips on all three with fancy checkered wood. I will say that the best bang for the buck is the Heritage. Love .22's.
Leave the other video up, but add in the title to check out this video. I knew that paper target was probably the cause of the keyholing. It does seem that BBM is not the right speed for that gun. It did key hole. Maybe the shape of the back of the bullet is not creating a good seal. Try some mini mags and see how they eject. If they are tight, then that cylinder has an issue. So the .22 mags eject easy?
Thanks for watching Steve I appreciate it and yes I'm going to be trying some different types of bullets in this gun in the future. I plan on repeating this test hopefully next week and shoot the guns off of arrest to eliminate a lot of my shaking. And I probably won't be using the BBM in the next test I have some other ammo's I want to run through it. Thanks for watching I appreciate it
Based on my experience, I would have to say you have a manufactured bad Wrangler. I have not shot the Sidekick...but I own two Wranglers (Silver & Burnt Bronze), and a Heritage Rough Rider 6.5 inch 9 shot .22LR & .22WMR---and both Wranglers are every bit as accurate (if not more) than the Haritage and they have shorter barrels.
After shooting any firearm at two different targets and you find the groups are consistently grouped but low, you compensate / look down the barrel differently. Not all pistols shoot like YOU shoot. YOU have to adapt to them or you don't hit the target.
Sidekick - good groups, shoots a bit low
Wrangler - All over the place
Rough Rider - Pretty darn good
Another great video Sir 💪🤠👍
Thank you for watching I appreciate it I hope you're doing well
I have four Rough Rough Riders. Three of them shoot pretty good but my 6 3/4 inch barrel Heritage will hit tin cans all day long at 55 yards. I was glad to see the Heritage out shoot the Ruger.. Great video.
So far from my experience, most of the Heritage Rough riders will outshoot the rugers. That's just the way it is. I don't know why Ruger can't make the wranglers a little more accurate. Crowning the muzzle might help.
That Ruger is all over the place that Heritage is doing a pretty good Group and if that sidekick up just a little bit it would be right in there Good shooting my friend
Thanks for watching Al I appreciate it, hey any of these guns I have. If you would like to use them for a review and shoot them yourself and let people know what you think about them just get in contact with me and we'll make it happen.
@@HamiltonOutdoors sounds like a plan same here if I got anything you can use your more than welcome When you get a day off we’re gonna have to get together make a few video I would like it very much
My heritage shoots 1" groups off the bench @ 15 yds with Remington golden bullets. They aren't my favorite rounds by any means, but in this particular pistol they work great. Excellent video. Keep them coming and thanks..
Very interesting test Rob! I was enjoying watching bullets hit and counting 'em. Glad that Sidekick performed better and eased your mind. The Ruger is what it is and that little Heritage made us proud.😁 Some of those were really good groups!
Yeah the Heritage definitely took the show on this day. I'm going to repeat this test next week and try shooting off the rest with some different types ammo and see if the Ruger is still as bad as it was in this test. I think it shoots better than that. The sidekick and the heritage both have exceptionally good triggers. The little Ruger is heavier and combined with my shaking just made for a bad day of shooting it.
Nice job. I wondered how these three would stack up. I like that you tired several different ammo. Gives the test a more real life comparison.
Thanks Randy I appreciate you watching the video hope you had a great Easter weekend
Thanks for the review. I'm really happy I picked up the bar keep after I saw your video on it. Stay safe and healthy.
Tickled to death that you're happy with your barkeep. They're great little guns and a lot of fun to shoot. Hope you're doing well
Great video. Funny how I've been looking for the older 9 shot Hi Standard and H&R .22 revolvers...hard to find. People really hang onto theirs. Then suddenly found the Diamond Back Sidekick. I'm looking forward to buying one.
I got my high standard double 9 with .22lr and .22 magnum cylinders for myself for my birthday 16 years ago for $175 at a pawn shop. Even if you get a diamondback, if you ever find a deal on a double 9, I definitely recommend grabbing it.
I have a sidekick and the rough rider. I prefer the 9 shot capacity, swing out cylinder and DA/SA trigger of the Sidekick. The front sight is supposed to be taller than necessary so you can file your front side down to match the point of impact of the ammo you intend to carry in the gun. Very few people are aware of this or actually do it. I had to file down nearly half of my front sight to bring my point of impact up to my point of aim on my Sidekick.
The sidekick is a good gun I really like the 3-in bird's head model. Thanks for watching I appreciate it
This is true
I have 2 R.R.'s and bought both on sale for $99.99. They're both 6.5" barrels and I did buy the .22 WMR cylinders as well. I've owned them about 4 years and my son and I have put 1000's of rounds through them with no failures. mine are both accurate and shoot to point of aim. It's not hard to shoot quarter size groups at 25 yards from a rest. The .22LR is a bit more accurateI. I have also used it on squirrels, rabbits, ground hogs and s few musk rats. I've had a lot of fun with them, especially for the price, they're hard to beat. Get one, everyone wants and likes to shoot it.
Great comparison video. Thanks! I have a 6” Heritage Classic .22LR/WMR that I haven’t shot and was considering trading, but that accuracy is compelling.
Blessings 😊
I have a rough rider and I just bought the the side kick 199.00 with rebate.
WOW !!!!!!!!! That was AWESOME Rob 🤠👍👍
Thanks for watching bill I appreciate it hope you're doing well
Hi Rob looks like fun! I am disappointed in the Ruger but liking the Sidekick! I hope it keeps getting better as it breaks in more for you on the keyholing, looks like its close now! I wouldnt pull the other video yet but maybe do a comment saying its getting better and direct them to this video :D that heritage did really nice! have a good night thanks for sharing!
Thank you nutty I hope that the sidekick after some more rounds will settle in. Maybe after the barrel leads a little bit it will shoot better. Thanks for watching I appreciate you and hope you're doing well
Good video Rob that was a good test between the 3 Revolvers 👍🏼Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸
Yeah I thought it was a pretty good test although I didn't shoot my Wrangler very good on that day. I'm going to repeat this test hopefully next week and shoot off of a rest hopefully I'll get better results
I don't own a Diamondback Sidekick yet but I do own the Ruger Wrangler and a Heritage Roughrider. My Roughrider will out shoot my Ruger Wrangler in the accuracy(point of aim) and precision(group size) categories(at 7 yards) all day long. But, it's not as wild as your Ruger Wrangler. The Roughrider's trigger is superior to the Ruger Wrangler's trigger. However, the Wrangler after shooting it with about 1000 rounds of .22 LR it has gotten better. Something is wrong with your Wrangler: Trigger pull, Barrel, or Sights. Something is causing very bad groups. My Ruger Wrangler, out of the box, had a loose Torx screw that is in front of the trigger guard that I had to tighten up. Check all of your Wrangler's Torx screws for looseness. Since bad groupings are happening with all four brands of .22 LR ammo, it's the gun. The Sidekick's(single action) and Roughrider's triggers are much cleaner breaks and lighter pulls than the Ruger Wrangler. But the Wrangler shouldn't be that bad of group spread. To shoot the Wrangler accurately with a good group, I have to grip the gun tight and smoothly press the trigger straight to the rear until it breaks and fires. Otherwise, you will jerk the Wrangler.
Ralph I do believe my Ruger shoots better than this I have shot it better than this in the past. End of the three guns that definitely has the most stiff trigger pull. And since I've had covered I shake like a leaf. I'm going to repeat this test hopefully next week and shoot them all off of arrest and see if I can't redeem the Ruger a little bit. Although I have always known that the heritage will shoot better than the Ruger. And it appears that the sidekick is going to shoot better than the Ruger. But I do think the Ruger will do better than what I did with it on that day. Thanks for watching I appreciate it hope you're doing well
Of the three I only have wranglers. Mine are not that bad. It did take me a bit to get the feel of them to where I shot accurately.
I do believe my Wrangler shoots better than I shot it on this day. I'm going to redo this test hopefully next week and shoot off of a rest and see if I can't redeem the Ruger a little bit. Although I don't think it will ever be as accurate as the little heritage or the sidekick but I think it should be closer than what it was. I appreciate you watching hope you're doing well
Nice to see the Heritage whooping some tail!! Lol. Good comparison video Rob!
Yeah the little Heritage was kicking ass and taking names on that day LOL hope you're doing well my friend
@@HamiltonOutdoors I'm doing alright Rob. Hope you all are well too.
Damm, I've been contemplating purchasing my first revolver - and you tested the 3 that I have been looking at. I think I will pick up the heritage - it will be my revolver training starter firearm. If I enjoy handling a revolver, then I see myself graduating to a larger caliber - but I must admit that those bigger caliber revolvers sure are pricey, even used.
Glad the video was of some help thanks for watching
Big bore revolvers and levers are crazy expensive, even 7 months later I’m sure it’s worse. They’re cool to have tho if you ever get one.
Enjoyed the video. The Wrangler really surprised me. I need to shoot mine more to see if it's bad too. The Heritage is smoking. And glad the sidekick proved Itself in better light today. Take care
Scott I actually think the Ruger shoots better than that the Diamondback and the Heritage have really lite single action triggers The Ruger trigger is not as good and I was shaking like a leave I do believe it shoots better than that yeah
Scott I actually think the Ruger shoots better than that the Diamondback and the Heritage have really lite single action triggers The Ruger trigger is not as good and I was shaking like a leave I do believe it shoots better than that yeah
My 1st 9 shots with my Out Of The Box sidekick were low like yours. I learned on my next nine where to hold the blade sight in the rear sight. I'm dead on now!
That's great to hear. How are your empty cases to eject?
Great video 👍🏻 Glad the little Diamondback is working out.
Yes I kind of think the Diamondback has redeemed itself. It does have a really good single action trigger, and the advantage of a nine round swing out cylinder with interchangeable Magnum makes it a pretty good option for a lot of uses. And I thought it was cool because it's basically a remake of the old high standard double nine. Thanks for watching I appreciate it
@@HamiltonOutdoors I’ve got a certain sentimental attachment to the High Standard. It’s a neat old revolver. I’d really love the Diamondbacks be great honestly 👍🏻 all the best Mr Hamilton. Appreciate the videos
Thank you for doing this video. I kept a picture of your targets! Good information! 😊👍
Impressive test. I have had Ruger single 6,and Heritage. I cannot find Sidekick anywhere in NC. It reminds me of a pistol from the 60'S. I thank Hi Syta
I just happened to find this one in our local pawn shop. It has been there for a little while seems nobody wanted to buy it. Probably because it's new and they never heard of it. So I just got lucky
I bought a Sidekick yesterday and haven't shot it yet but it looks and feels really good in the hand and I like the fact that it is double action and a 9 shot revolver. It is also a convertable too shoot 22 magnum.
Yes hopefully I get mine back from Diamondbacks soon.
Good video, well done. I had to shave down a TON off of my heritage front sight post but I love it!
Glad you liked it!
I own two of the sidekicks , filed the front site and it shoots great with federal ammo .
Awesome video, can’t wait to shoot the heritage I bought. By the looks of it I’m going to love it. Nice price on it too
Thanks for watching I hope you enjoy the new gun
@@HamiltonOutdoors it’s great, it’s crazy accurate also
Great video!! I had a heritage rough rider Great little gun for 10 year's i actually traded it in on a ruger wrangler today with pearl grips i shot 12 rounds with it at 40 ft. Hit my little spinner targets good i actually really like the ruger. But i enjoyed the heritage also but now i have a ruger to go with my little bride of 50 year's ruger convertible 9mm/357 . Thanks for sharing be safe have fun
VERY disappointing!!!!
I dont have the Heritage or Sidekick but a couple Single Sixes and a Colt still waiting on my Birds Head. When I do maybe I compair these three just as you have.
GOOD VIDEO!
I wouldnt take video down. But maybe LINK this video showing No problems.
Go easy there "Ol man". Its a marathon ya know!! God bless your buddy CW
Thanks for watching CW I appreciate it. I know the Ruger shoots a little better than that I was just having a really shaky day, and it does have a stiffer trigger than the other two. Causing me to throw a lot of rounds I think. I'm going to repeat this test off of the rest and see how it compares. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the review. Looks like the Sidekick SA/DA may not be at fault for grouping drop. Heritage is good for the money SA. Scrap the Ruger at that cost 😮
What velocity for each round? Barrel lengths and twist?
I’ve been looking at Heritage rough rider - gives me a good feeling for this weapon - Thank you
Most of the heritages are good revolvers occasionally you get a lemon
When we bought our Heritage the Sidekick wasn't around...ours has been dependable, not the ultimate tack driver but decent enough...although the Ruger might be sturdier, it lacks features we like about the Heritage...the Sidekick looks promising but at this time it would be far down our wishlist...small note: the most accurate ammo we have ever shot out of the Heritage was CCI target shorts (830 fps)...good video...
Thanks for watching I appreciate it
Thanks. Very helpful
Thanks for watching
Great video. I have two of the Heritage 4 3/4 inch barrels. Neither one of them will hit the ground.... lol. I also have the Heritage 6 inch barrel which holds a two inch pattern at 50 yrds from a bench rest.
Great test Rob always enjoy your videos
Thanks Chris I appreciate that, hope you're doing well
I believe I’d get a brass screw and honing compound and work on the crown of that ruger
Yeah I've heard of other people doing that I've never seen any body say whether it's significantly helped or not but it'd be worth a shot. Thanks for watching I appreciate it
very comprehensive and professional video, thank you. i have both the ruger wrangler and heritage roughrider, as well as a ruger single six and bearcat. my wrangler groups better than yours, to low left, similar spacing to your roughrider, so it’s on me, not the piece. i trust ruger products so either a used single six or new wrangler would be my choice. my roughrider shoots fine but i worry that a heritage is simply built less strong than a ruger. why not send your video to ruger and see what can be done about fixing your wrangler?
I'm sure my Wrangler shoots better than that I have shot it better than that. But the Diamondback and the heritage have extremely nice triggers and very light. The Ruger had the stiffest trigger of them all. And since covid I shake a lot too. I'm going to repeat this test hopefully next week and I'm going to be shooting off the rest and see if it's still looks that bad for the Ruger. Thanks for watching I appreciate it and I hope you're doing well
My Heritage is a tack driver out to 50 yards, definitely happy about that $79 black Friday purchase!
Quick question... I want to replace my Wrangler with a Sidekick. I already have a cutout foam space in my gun safe (which was cutout to fit my Wrangler). Will this also fit the Sidekick? How similar are the various dimensions of both guns' parts? I don't have foam space in the space for another gun because my other guns have pretty much filled it up.
I really liked the comparison, I like the diamondback better 👍🏼 thinking of getting one.
Thank you for watching
Thank you for sharing!
Heritage Manufacturing has a sale on their Cedar Wood Civil War commemorative
display case for the Heritage Rough Rider revolver. It's selling for $19.99.
Thanks Bill appreciate the information those are really nice wooden boxes
With a little sight adjustment the Sidekick might be as good as the Heritage. I found out that a HKS # 22K speedloader works great for loading spare Heritage cylinders in a hurry. But also found out it doesn't work as smooth on a spare Wrangler cylinder because of tighter chambers. One Wrangler chamber was quite a bit tighter than the rest testing with different brands. Might be the issue in accuracy when they inset the chambers incorrectly. Good video. 👍
Thanks for watching bill I appreciate it I'm going to be repeating this test possibly next week and we'll be shooting off rest to see if I can do a little bit better. Hope you're doing well
@@HamiltonOutdoors Maybe with a little polishing the chambers & barrel it will help the Wrangler. I have old eyes but it looks like where the chambers are slightly inletted to let cartridges set flush they aren't consistently machined. Mine isn't quite as accurate as the RRs.
Enjoyed the video I was kinda on the fence for the sidekick but now feel more confident in getting one. The Heritage are awesome shooters even though I have 3 rough riders and both barkeep models I may just shop around for a few more. As for the wrangler will probably unload it after I get the sidekick. Happy trails to you Sir.
Thanks for watching Stephen I like all three guns for different reasons. And I'm a sucker for a single action revolver anyway LOL
You sounds like me Stephen. Though I’m a few behind. I got the 4.75”, the 16”, and the 2” barkeep. Want to get one of every barrel length, probably different grips or cylinders to miss match. Heritage just keeps making new ones tho lol making it hard to keep up.
From what I can see from other videos, most people have ground down the front sight a smidge. Shoots low for some reason. But having a double action 9 shot is really attractive to me. Picked one up for $300 and I would say it's well worth it.
Great video. I have a 6 inch barrel, 6 round, Heritage and it is a .22 lr tack driver. Now I want the Sidekick for the swing out cylander mostly. From all the videos I've seen on it, the Ruger looks like a POS if you actually want to hit anything. BTW, Heritage does make a 9 shot single action if you can find one.
Anyway, thank you for the great video.
Thanks for watching and yes the Ruger is definitely the least accurate
Definately looks like grouping the Heritage beats them all.
But the thing about guns and trying to zero them? The warmer the barrel gets or the colder it gets affects where the projectile hits.
But between thesthree pistols it seems the Heritage with grouping and accuracy whipped some ass on this range. With some pretty expensive ammo.
I can tell you what the Heritage might be the cheapest most unrefined gun on the table but as far as shooting it will outdo almost all of them any day
Wonder what the twist rate is on these.
Something is definitely wrong with the Ruger.. maybe a damaged crown
Got similar results from all three, out of the box ,good video
Thanks for watching John, I appreciate feedback. Hope you have a great weekend
@@HamiltonOutdoors
Same order of accuracy, Rough Rider on target, Sidekick shot low, Wrangler all over the place, all with Federal ammo, no misfires
Heritage looked like the winner..... Fun video
Yes the Heritage is definitely a winner
Shot shell is great in the wrangler great groupings at 30 ft
I've been trying to find some shot shells and haven't had any luck thanks for watching I appreciate it
@@HamiltonOutdoors you might be able to find some at Big5 sporting goods
Grouping was fairly even between the Sidekick and the Rough Rider. But you couldn't shoot that Wrangler to save your life.😆 Great video. Thanks
I really like my Sidekick. This is a great video showing accuracy and different brands of ammo. All the 22's I've ever owned are picky about ammo brands. My S&W loved CCI and did not like Remington thunderbolts for example. I'd pull the other video. Anyway great video! Thanks!
Thanks for watching Leo I appreciate it
I bought a Heritage 3 weeks ago. I have NEVER been able to shot a gun so well. 600 rounds and I never had a failure to fire. My Sidekick does not fire one out of 20 shots and with the magnum it drops to 1 out of 9! I have had the Sidekick back to the shop twice! Totally disappointed!
That Heritage is smoking!!! Do you have a Mag Cylinder w/ it as well ? If so, how does the Heritage do w/ Mags? I'm impressed ! Good VIDEO!
I'm glad the Donors ammo shot the best on the LAST GUN too!!!
Great guy!
Yes I have one Magnum cylinder for the Heritage. That I interchanged in all of my heritage roughrider guns. They all seem to shoot 22 magnum fairly well.
@@HamiltonOutdoors Great Vid, Great REPLY!!! THANKS bro...
Do u remember exactly what the armscor ammo was? I would like to try those n mine. Thank you
I'm sorry I don't remember exactly which one it was and I have no more of it to look at and see. I need to try and find some more.
@@HamiltonOutdoors ☹️
Well, I'm waiting to p/u my new Heritage, I've been watching a ton of great videos learning as much as possible, here are some things, the barrel is made for 22mag the 22lr. is 2 thousands smaller bullet this causes a lost of accuracy, so when looking to sight in for accuracy use the 22mag, , ADJUSTING sights, WINDAGE=before bending the front blade check the barrel tightness it's threaded into the frame, sometimes it can be clocked ,that is, tightened or loosened ( if loosened use blue loktight blue only). Remove and reinstall to correct location, use location scribe mark on the bottom side of the barrel to frame . ELEVATION= if shooting low, put a white little dot on the back side of blade (when you get it dead on) you can file off the top of blade to the top of your white dot . These two adjustments should make your guns aim near perfect, remember use the 22mag. rds they fit the barrel tighter inside more accurately. The guy I saw that did these two adjustments was shooting 1 inch groups at 25 ft I thought that was very VERY IMPRESSIVE !
Thanks for watching
That Sidekick did 3 keyholes. It has an over size barrel or wrong or shallow rifling.
Yes I'm still not 100% sure of its shooting like it should be. I'm going to put a lot more rounds through it and see how it works out.
Thank you for the video. I have a Sidekick on order.
Congratulations on the new gun and thanks for watching
Got the sidekick. Royal wast of time and ammo. It's going right back in the box as a trade in. Finish wear after one range trip and it won't group well. Had to file sight to bring it to poa.
My Rugers accuracy is terrible too...
Stellar! All the way around! Also : I wouldn’t want a key hold in the middle of My forehead .
Thank you Richard I appreciate you watching, hope you're doing well
Great video. Thank you
Thank you for watching I appreciate it
My new Ruger Wrangle key holed and had horrible accuracy so I sent it back to Ruger. Ruger sent me replacement and it shoots very well. They sent me a test target to prove its accuracy so they probably hand selected my replacement.
That little heritage is a shooter! It beat everything
Yeah the little Heritage was definitely beating them all out on this day. Hope you're doing all right bullfrog
I love my heritage. It’s a little sniper that gun.
I’ll stick with my Heritage too. I was planning on a Diamond Back but now I don’t need too.
I was looking at the Diamond Back too. I went with the Heritage Rough Rider. I was thinking about the Ruger, not now. I have a Single Six though that shoots well.
I wish Ruger would make the Wrangler in a 6" or 7.5" barrel. Easier for me with these old eyes to get a decent sight picture.
Yeah the Wrangler line has a lot of potential if they would just expand it.. thanks for watching
Ruger came out with the 7.5" Wrangler. I bought one early this year 2024. If you can find a Ruger Bearcat, it is of much higher quality than any of the three guns tested.
My compact 4" Bearcat with fixed sight can compete with my Ruger Mark III target pistol in accuracy and reliability out to 50 yards.
Sand the front sight down some on the sidekick. It’s getting better groups. You might try CCI first.
Good video Rob, appreciate the time you put in making that target, I was really impressed with the rough rider groups, I think the wrangler was out drinking all night.
Hell the way I shot the Wrangler you would have thought I was the one out drinking all night LOL thanks for watching I appreciate it
Knew after first round that heritage was gonna hit a bull.. Good video..
The Heritage revolvers tend to be fairly accurate.
My heritage was pretty spot on when shooting . Looking to get a sidekick. No ruGers
But how's that sidekick with the .22 Mag ammo ?
Just for giggles, when you get off your “hell week”, next time you shoot the Diamond back, use your barkeep ejector rod and do them manually. This will tell if it’s a tight chamber or the ejector rod assembly hanging up. This will help eliminate the actual cylinder, or not. If they come out smoothly, then it’s something to do with the ejector rod workings. Maybe the rod is bent. Just my brain working to help you figure all this out.
That is definitely a good idea Steve. I'll have to try that we're going to do some more shooting with it when I get off hell week thanks for watching
That Ruger damn near needs a whole poster board to itself 😆.
Yeah it's not a tac driver
Sidekick FTW. Yes, file the front sight down and it will be ready gorgeous battle
The Ruger surprised me. My Ruger shoots better than my Heritage. I can get consistent hits at 15 yards with my Ruger Wrangler on soda cans, where the Heritage shoots a larger group, causing some missed shots. Overall, both are fun plinkers, and I'm thinking about grabbing a sidekick next.
My heritage and my Ruger are both accurate, kinda surprised
Seems like 22s are a crap shoot regardless of brand. That said ruger has a higher expectation because of the higher price.
I was also surprised at the poor accuracy from the wrangler. While I have no Rough Riders or Diamondbacks, I’ve heard good things about them.
I do have a 1973 model Single Six and a new Wrangler and both easily take tree rats out at 40 yards or so, and the two other Wranglers I have access to shoot similarly well. But.. I did pick up a new Ruger American stainless target rifle that is less accurate at 50 yards than ANY other gun I own either pistol or rifle. Perhaps it is just luck of the draw with your Wrangler and my American. Ruger customer service will usually be happy to make it right tho and want me to return my rifle. Perhaps they would like a chance to satisfy you with your Wrangler as well.
I sure hope you watch the video again. It it s keyholing first group one round bad last and second to last minor keyhole. Ruger dam thats a bad gun
Watching I appreciate it I don't think it's so much the bad gun as it is a bad shot I suck sometimes
After watching this I'm having second thoughts about getting a Ruger Wrangler. I was planning on buying one tomorrow
I wouldn't say it's totally the guns fault. I do think it shoots better than that I've shot it better than that. Hope the three guns it does have the most stiff trigger and therefore a little harder to shoot especially when you shake as bad as I do. If you can find one for rental and try it first or if somebody you know has one would be the way to go. Like I said judging a gun's accuracy by me is doing it and Injustice. Although I will admit the Ruger is less accurate than the heritage or the Diamondback for that matter
I own a Heritage Rough Rider and I love it just simply because it’s accurate and it’s fun. I’m not impressed by the Wrangler and I’m certainly impressed by the Sidekick. It looks pretty cool and I’ve been wanting one ever since I saw them the first time.
Thanks for watching I appreciate it
The side kick just needs the front sight filed down just a little,normal for single action pistol.
I have a Heritage Rough Rider 6.5" and Diamondback Sidekick. Think I will skip the Ruger Wrangler. I have several Ruger firearms that I enjoy but that Wrangler is not up to snuff. Interesting that the cheapest gun in the test out shoots the other two.
Probably a good choice
I have rough rider and ruger wrangler 4.5 inch i think they shoot about the same
There are a lot of Ruger Wrangler reviews. All with similar results. You would think Ruger would address this issue.
I have been looking to buy one of these less expensive revolvers. The Heritage " Bar Keep" is automatically out because of the "pookie stick". The Rough RIder seems pretty good. I do like the mechanics of the Sidekick. On the fence with the Ruger accuracy. I would like to see how the Sidekick runs after a few thousand rounds.
I think they're all decent guns in there on right, I do believe the Ruger shoots better than that I was just having a bad day with it we're going to redo this test. It does have the hardest trigger of the three guns tested. I'm going to try and retested and shoot them off the rest to try and eliminate myself
Did you end up getting one? I have good experience with the rough riders. Have a 4.75”, 16”, and a 2” barkeep. Obviously the barkeep won’t be accurate past 10 yards but the other two are pretty dag on good out to 25. Can do pretty good further, probably in better hands than mine. I know the barkeep is impractical with the reloading but it was too cool and dumb not to get. Heritage needs to quit making new ones cause I want to get one of every barrel length lol, gonna drain my wallet.
@@ronniemac34 I ended up finding a good deal on a Taurus 94
@@tommartinez62 nice. Those are neat guns I always wondered about them.
Both my Ruger and Heritage shoot really well. That sidekick could be brought on target with some work on the front sight.
Steve the front sight could stand to be filed down a little
I’d love to see how the boot would do lol
Well next test I do I'll throw it into the mix LOL thanks for watching Bruce
I have owned 3 Ruger's and Mine have never shot anything like yours 2 weekends ago I had groups 10 yards all six Center and touching with CCi Yours I dont know whats going on
Oh I know what's going on with mine. I'm shooting them lol I suck at shooting anymore. I got cataracts formed over my eyes just waiting till I go blind so they'll remove them. It's not the gun I'm sure. Between the shaking and can't see the sites
It looked to me like the sidekick did keyhole at least two of the rounds. one on the first target and one on the last target. It was hard to tell.
I'm hoping after I put a few more rounds through it that the barrel breaks in and gets a little leading in it it will shoot better thanks Jeff I appreciate you watching
I agree,sure looks like a couple rounds keyholed. Might need crown of gun looked at!
looked like the heritage was the most accurate of the three! but the groups on the sidekick were pretty close!
Like the gun but can’t afford it!
Yes guns can be very expensive. Thanks for watching
dont cut your video down i thought it was a good review , i was thinking about the side kick, now i know , thankyou.
I don't think you have tumblers. I think your putting them almost on top of each other. 👍
Yeah that could possibly be it's hard to tell sometimes. I appreciate you watching and hope you're doing okay
I've got all three guns. Mine all shoot better. The Wranglers sights were closest to poa/poi out if the box. I tweaked the front sights on both the Sidekick and Roughrider. I tweaked the trigger a little on the Wrangler so that they all pull 2.5-3 lbs. All three of mine are reasonably accurate for what they are. Luckily, my Ruger is way more accurate than yours. All three of my guns are "can accurate" at 40 yards. I changed the grips on all three with fancy checkered wood. I will say that the best bang for the buck is the Heritage. Love .22's.
Honestly mine would probably be more accurate in the hands of somebody else who could see better. I don't shoot as well as I did when I was young
What is the distance?
10 yards thanks for watching
I apologize for my mistake! Perhaps I need to get a new pair of glasses. The order of the revolvers is correct. Carry on Sir!
Great video
Leave the other video up, but add in the title to check out this video. I knew that paper target was probably the cause of the keyholing. It does seem that BBM is not the right speed for that gun. It did key hole. Maybe the shape of the back of the bullet is not creating a good seal. Try some mini mags and see how they eject. If they are tight, then that cylinder has an issue. So the .22 mags eject easy?
Thanks for watching Steve I appreciate it and yes I'm going to be trying some different types of bullets in this gun in the future. I plan on repeating this test hopefully next week and shoot the guns off of arrest to eliminate a lot of my shaking. And I probably won't be using the BBM in the next test I have some other ammo's I want to run through it. Thanks for watching I appreciate it
Based on my experience, I would have to say you have a manufactured bad Wrangler. I have not shot the Sidekick...but I own two Wranglers (Silver & Burnt Bronze), and a Heritage Rough Rider 6.5 inch 9 shot .22LR & .22WMR---and both Wranglers are every bit as accurate (if not more) than the Haritage and they have shorter barrels.
I think the Sidekick is key holing some of the rounds. The Heritage would be the only choice for a cheap 22 caliber single action.
After shooting any firearm at two different targets and you find the groups are consistently grouped but low, you compensate / look down the barrel differently. Not all pistols shoot like YOU shoot. YOU have to adapt to them or you don't hit the target.
Thanks for the tip Larry