Heritage Rough Rider Revolver Barrel Length Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2022
- Paul tests the different length of barrels of the Heritage Rough Rider Revolvers.
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Every time I block them, they create new accounts.
I was hoping I won a Paul Harrell action figure :(
@@leovasquez5501 Me Too! Actually, I was hoping for a Joker's model.
Do you know what astronauts do when they're hungry? They go to the Launch Window! 😋
I report them any time I see them. They are multiplying like wet gremlins.
Thanks for the video Paul please keep them coming not that you would care but not been doing well and these give me much needed lift!!!!
"Depending what you're measuring a half inch can be significantly more." Paul and his nonchalant joke telling ability is great 👍
Hey, man, it's not about the INCHES, its about the PERCENTAGE gains! If 1/2 inch makes for a 25% increase, that's enough of a difference,to MAKE a difference. 🤓👍
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic you keep telling her that 🤣
But see, in this case the 16.5" barrel is shorter than the 16" one. Depends where you're measuring from...
@@DirkDeadeye_ Oh, I don't have to fudge the number, my dude. 😉 I'm just trying to help people out. The difference between 1.5 inches and 2 inches width is not enough difference to make a difference.
Agreed!
"...This is a Ruger 10/22. There are many like it, but this one is Not mine." Excellent!!🤣🤣🤣🤣👍🏻
i laughed a bit at this one too haha, i love when he drops some lines like that
@@AlexDerange Paul is Hilarious. The Dry sense of Humor is unappreciated by most people. 👍🏻
This is my rifle. This is my gun.
This Ruger is NOT mine, but that Glenfield/Marlin model 60 is!
I know where he got that! Plus I haven't heard the term "spazz" in a long, long time!
When Paul pulled that 16 incher out of his pants I was truly shocked and impressed
That's what Gun Nut Media said
Too much sexual innuendo opportunities there.
ohoh!
Thats what she said 🤪
I'm glad I watched the video before I read that...
The 16" rough rider requires the inside the waistband pant leg holster and tactical clown shoes for maximum effect
And Joker's face paint.
@@tomasz9429 I keep thinking about buying one to go to the range with a limp and if anybody asks pull out my "concealed carry" revolver... but it's a joke that would be funny one time, and I am unwilling to spend $200 on a shitty joke
@@tomasz9429 I was about say the same thing. Now add the Joker laugh.
We thought you were just happy to see another Paul Harrell video.
Clown shoes are optional. Clown makeup and purple suit are not.
11:35
I still can't believe Paul refers to himself as "the average shooter" at times.... Sir, you are an exceptional shooter.
I still chuckle when he says that.
Same Thing I Was Thinking.
He makes unloading and loading these guns look simple. I own this gun and I’m sure he reloaded that carbine in half the time I take. All while standing and talking to the camera. He didn’t drop a round either.
Can definitely see a difference in people I've seen and know previous to getting the juice and after, they loose dexterity, speed, cognitive function and sadly are way off where they were before their trusting the gov't for health advice. Paul fortunately doesn't seem to be one of them thank GOD.
Yeah, Paul saying that cracks me up every time.
I'm glad Paul did the comparison. I'm sure a lot of people assumed the 16" barrel would produce rifle like velocities.
"Depending on what you're measuring, a half inch can be significantly more." Wise words, and oh-so-true!😆
For the viewers who don’t fully appreciate Paul’s round counting ability: Jump to 14:28.
Paul has a 25 round magazine, and proceeds to fire 24 rounds at the brisk rate of about 5.25 rounds per second(275 rpm), stopping precisely when the magazine empties, leaving the 25th round chambered. He then loads a new magazine, and resumes fire at the same expeditious pace, this time firing 25 rounds, leaving the 50th round in the chamber. He then has the audacity to say “for instructional purposes only”, reminding the viewer that he has kept perfect round count, and under other circumstances would not fire that final round until he had replenished the feed source (fresh mag).
If that doesn’t blow your mind - I implore you: Try it. Most people can’t even count that fast, let alone multitask. Paul is an actual savant.
I concur.
if he was keeping perfect count he would have fired 24 rounds, then 25, then the last 1
he actually fired 23 rounds, then 24, then 1
he could have been keeping perfect count assuming he only loaded the 25 capacity magazines to 24
not saying he didn't, there are reasons to do so, but if he was loading to 25 then there was a bullet left in each mag
I didn't read your comment before commenting something similar very extraordinary
That was indeed impressive, but the secret to fast counting lies in a good sense of rhythm. To me he seems to fire in groups of three.
@@Tilley-oy7gx Very interesting. I've never tried that, but it certainly makes sense. Thanks for sharing!
At the gun shop I used to work at we sold the heritage RR revolvers to folks who wanted an inexpensive "knock a round" gun. A few were trappers who used them to dispatch animals they had trapped and we had a couple of folks that used them around the farm for pest control and the occasional bovine they had to put down. Most all of these revolvers were of the dual caliber (.22 LR/.22 Mag) variety in the 4-6 inch bbl lengths.
Did my share of canoeing the local rivers in my youth. Had a couple dedicated "boat guns" that wouldn't break the bank if lost. Hunting gar with a 20ga was quite entertaining!
See also: glove box gun, tackle box gun, etc.
It would make a good outdoors backup. Don't feel bad if it gets a little beat up, .22LR or .22WMR is plenty and only one or two shots likely needed so reloading isn't an issue.
Had a guy come in insisting that he was going to use the heritage barkeep for conceal carry. More power to him I guess lol
I love my 4 7/8" and my Barkeep! Have them loaded with WMR for home defense but a very great gun for teaching new shooters and just fun plinking with LR!
Paul, I think a similar test among .22 magnum loads/cylinders might be interesting. Thanks for the video.
I chronographed 40 gr 22LR vs Magnum in my Heritage 4 1/2. I didn't record numbers, but as I recall the difference didn't warrant the increased cost of the round. I haven't used my magnum cylinder since.
@@slotcarfanI'm callin bull dunkey on that recollection if not the experience itself, magnum has about 2x or a little more increase in energy ft lbs there's no way. Ime & imo...
other channel found 400 fps faster with magnum on 6.5in barrel
Always a good day when a Paul Harrell video comes out
You got that right. Paul is the GOAT
I just picked up a heritage rough rider 4 inch for my daughter's 10th birthday a week ago. There's no such thing as coincidences, thanks for the video paul you're the man
You're going to enjoy that gun. Fantastic introduction for kids.
My 10 yr old girl has one 2, gotta be the cheapest way to have fun shooting by far and the gun clicks so nice, she says it makes her feel like Kevin Costner! I made up that last part lol
I love my rough rider. Last week I did some accuracy tests with mine and made it to 100 yards. I was also testing different 22lr accuracy with barrel length, so thats two videos in a row from Paul that line up with my recent projects.
My number one excuse for buying mine was "it's a great training pistol for first time shooters." That's my story and I'm sticking to it dammit.. lol
What an awesome gift
Bought a Heritage Rough Rider for my daughter and she loves it. For the price they are awesome!
Same
Bought one for my stepson years ago, then when my daughter got to the same age, Ruger came out with the Wrangler.
Close in price and a transfer bar safety.
Both are great for the money, but the Ruger is safer.
They are great way to introduce someone to shooting and a great value.. I nearly picked one up myself but I got a deal on a Ruger Wrangler..
I love the idea that someone at Heritage asked, "does barrel length make a difference"
So someone said, "I don't know, let's make every barrel length"
"And let's make the long barrels shoot slower than the short barrels- that'll throw 'em for a loop!".
The Barkeep must blow your lungs out, then!
@@johnreep5798 that's the 9mm
So, please tell me,......what....exact...kind of witchcraft does Paul use that makes me want to watch all the chronograph shots in any video he puts out. Well played, Paul. And now look,........it is causing me to move my mouse up to the 👍 and click it!
he is not judging anyone and you can sense that energy through the screen. simple as that. in our judgmental world his dry humor and truly good willed nature is a relief.
I watched it because I wanted to see someone actually shoot one of those circus guns. 😄
😨
@@jstefa2 I totally agree. In all seriousness, his personality alone is the reason why I watch his videos. He's obviously quite educated in the topic and communicates extremely well, but yes, that dry humor is like food for the soul.
I am so grateful for Mr. Harrell’s videos. He is so thorough and calm. I learned a LOT about proper operation of this single action revolver, as I purchased a ‘6”’ .22LR/.22WMR combination Heritage Rough Rider revolver on a local Black Friday sale, last year. Thank you, Mr. Harrell! Also, I really like the levity of the opening frame with the grave Mr. Harrell promoting the Pop Tarts product. It was so funny to me!
Blessings, Grace and Peace 😊
Same here...ya know the saying, "sometimes it's the things left unsaid that have the greatest impact" (or some permutation of that)?
Well, Paul just seems to leave that part out and addresses everything. I am a tedious speaker myself, so I can appreciate a guy who can do it without becoming a total bore like I am.
Also, I haven't gotten into the rough riders yet, but I've fired a ruger Wrangler, and it's pretty fun to shoot. Although I've heard they're not the greatest...but a good price for a plinkin gun isn't all bad.
On a whim, I decided to run standard deviations for each of the ammo series. For those interested:
the 4.875" revolver had an SD of 17.2fps or 1.61%
The 6.5" revolver had an SD of 19.2fps or 1.87%
The 16" revolver had an SD of 41fps or 4.24%
The 16" carbine had an SD of 15.8fps or 1.58%
The 10/22 had an SD of 13.2fps or 1.05%
A Standard Deviation (SD) is the mathematical average of each datapoint's deviation from the mean of those datapoints. It generally shows how precise or consistent a given set of datapoints are. In terms of firearms and ammunition, it's typically a measure of the quality of a given type/brand/batch of ammunition and how good their quality controls are. It can also be a measure of how consistent a given firearm is, if employed correctly. As we can see with the 16" revolver, an unusually-large SD in comparison to other firearms using the same ammunition, both those of similar and of different manufacture, can indicate some sort of flaw or defect that may cause an atypical inconsistency in velocity.
Great info! ✌🏻👍🏼
I want to agree with you, but with the budget lower grade ammo in .22 lr the ammo is so inconsistent. Now I happened to locate a 1988 Case of federal
bulk pack 550s, Yes a case, 5500 rounds, It wasn't stored perfectly but not horrible either........... I had low expectations but I was soon disabused of that.
It turned out to be fantastic and way above current production in consistency and reliability. I don't think there was a bad one in the 3.5k I shot of it and I stashed the last few boxes of it because of that. I have also discovered the new aguila super extra outperformed the CCI mini mags...... another surprise.
Currently taking an intro to statistics class and also learning about revolvers so seeing your comment was like a weird fever dream for a second.
I have two of these. First pistol I bought when I moved out to PA from NY, I love em. Mine shoot both .22s/l/lr and .22wmr(has two cylinders with it). When one of my friends from NY came and visited he loved shooting the rough rider. They are just fun little guns.
Mine only came with the long rifle cylinder.. but came with a coupon to get the WMR cylinder for 25 bucks.. I now have both
LOL I can't imagine saying moving TO Pa is a better thing ...... thats kinda like going to Oregon from Commiefornia
@@robaldridge6505 PA is awesome. Low taxes. Cost of living is cheap. I can own any guns I want with any size magazines. And no cc permit needed to buy pistols. Plus I've never waited more than 30 minutes to go home with a gun purchase. I'm on 50 acres so I have a range on my property I can shoot whenever. I built some nice atv trails in my woods and the deer hunting is great. My first year hunting last year I filled out all my tags. PA is sweet.
@@robaldridge6505 Compared to New York's gun laws, Pennsylvania is much more 2A friendly...it is kind of stupid in parts of pennsylvania, Philadelphia mainly and Allegheny County. But the overwhelming majority of Pennsylvania is Rural Trump loving Gun Country.
A trip to the courthouse, filled out a form, got my picture taken, walked out 20 minutes later with my carry permit. Kind of sucks that 20 minutes away in WV you don't even need that but still way better than New York's ridiculous carry permit process
Josh and Jim, I feel sorry for you guys, but, then too I grew up in N. California, left when the assault rifle ban went thru and I've been one happy duck here in Montana ever since... Best of Luck brothers.....
Longer Barrel = Lower Velocity, I Never Would Have Believed It. Thanks Paul. 👍
16inch barrel after the cylinder gap. That gap robs lots of power, with that loss of power it now has to fight more barrel to end up down range. Instead of a normal rifle where that power/pressure travels along the entire barrel and is able to help move the bullet faster.
I really learned something today. I did not know the pressure loss at the cylinder made such a difference. The velocity loss with longer barrels was much more significant that the difference in rifle barrel lengths in the previous video.
Good education for me today. Thanks Paul.
I had no idea we are losing that much velocity...and now I am wondering about .22wmr performance, we own a 6.5 barrel model...
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww , there is .22 WMR formulated for short barrels. The brand I found is Speer Gold Dot. I don't have access to a chronograph, but would like to see testing about our mutual concerns
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww I would guess the wmr would see more benefit from a longer barrel. 22lr is just such a small round that the powder burns completely out of any barrel length.
I would love to see this same test but with the .22 magnum cylinders, if you need more video ideas.
i was thinking the same thing im very curious about that
Agreed.
I own this firearm in the 16 inch non-rifle pistol configuration.
I think the level of powder charge does make a difference. Also, there appears to be a timing effect from the bullet striking the forcing cone.
I agree to the 4 and 7/8 barrel with 22 magnum
I have a 1958 Ruger Single Six that I really love. It is quite accurate and refined, even at its age. I've shot Heritage revolvers. Yes, they are okay for what they are.
I have a Ruger Wrangler. Its vey nice for what it is, an alloy framed, .22lr, slightly downsized “Single Action Army”... definitely not as nice as a single six, trigger isnt as good but for the price its great and slightly nicer than the Heritage.
@@ryanpeck3377 I have contemplated getting one of the Birdshead versions...and still may...but the alloy frame isn't all that stellar, of course. The seam on it is rather pronounced. But for the price, I still may get one.
Does it shoot point of aim, at like 7 yards? My old Single Six can pretty much do a quarter size group, if I'm going my part correctly. But then, the Single Six does have a rear sight.
I have the Bearcat, the .22, the .41, and the .44 all from the 60's. The leather has worn the bluing off the .44 in places. Have been carrying that pistol since I was 12 living in Alaska. My most prized firearm.
@@AnAZPatriot I have one of the 'newer' Bearcat revolvers. The Shopkeeper with fluted cylinder and birdshead grip. I consider it one of my most prized as well.
Paul always delivers a good in depth analysis of the subject
I have been waiting for this for a long time! Thanks, Paul! But I wish you would do it with the .22wmr cylinder. That would really settle some arguments.
Heritage, "what kind of barrel do you want, standard barrel length, a snub nose, a medium barrel length, a ridiculous barrel that would normally be on a rifle?"
Chad Consumer, "Yes"
Very interesting, I've never regretted buying mine, for the cost it's better than I expected.
Absolutely LOVE these in depth studies!! Once again it shows that even if you think you know something...reality can hit you square on the nose!
My younger cousin bought one of these awhile back and it shot about a foot left at 20 yards with all ammo. Definitely not shooter error. Some ammo were a little different but all very left. The front sight was not centered in the barrel and it also wasn't vertical. After literally bending the front sight with a pair of pliers, he got it close to zeroed. It also had a ton of gas blowing out the cylinder gap and some was coming back and hitting the shooter in the face. I know it's a cheap gun but that's pretty bad.
high and left seems to be the factory setting for these!
Generally, the barrel needs to be tightened a little. Also, the screw that secures the ejector tube is notorious for loosening, and needs thread locker. The thumb safety can break.
Mr Ed and Joe, thanks for the tip, I'll mention that to him.
I had soot on my left thumb after shooting it
@@joem7062 You should always get some gas escaping between the cylinder face & the forcing cone. If that gap were completely closed the resulting friction would make getting the cylinder to turn extremely difficult. Also some allowance has to be made for the metal heating & expanding when shooting.
Just did a review on my rough rider! Thanks for all the extra information your provide Paul. It’s got some shortcomings, but for the price it’s difficult not to have fun with one!
I have the Rough Rider with .22 and .22 with the 9" barrel and adjustable sights. I zeroed both at 20 yards. Both shoot to the same point of impact. Very fun firearm. Great video!
This guy needs a tv show
Pretty interesting results. Thanks for the deep dive Paul.
A comparison of cylinder gaps would have been interesting.
Can we all appreciate the number of guns he pulls out concealed! Then proceeds to show incredible shooting and review each with pros and cons! Greatest respect for Paul! Thank you for the opportunity 🙏and enjoyed the video!
For some reason your presentation style reminds me of those middle school educational vhs tapes and that’s probably what I like the most about this video! 🙏🏼
Kellogg's needs to give you a sponsorship for pop tarts
Deluge of Paul videos on a long weekend? Heck yea.
The only "prize" is getting to listen to, and watch Paul have fun. That's what we are here for.
I just brought home my Heritage 22 4.75” revolver and really appreciated this review. The price was definitely the main deciding factor and it is good to know it is a reasonable selection of firearm. My skills have definitely eroded since my time in the military (30 years ago) and wanted something that was more affordable to shoot (ammo prices) than my 9mm or my AR-15. This was cheap enough that I was able to pay for it and 1000 rounds of ammo than it would have been for 1000 rounds of 9mm.
Try shooting the cylinder from the 4 7/8” in either of the longer barrel 22’s and you will probably see an increase in velocity. I have three Ruger 327’s and the short barreled one shot faster than the next size up. I tried shooting all three cylinders in all three frames and found that the cylinder was as much as a factor in velocity as was barrel length. I suspect that the chambers cut early in the production run were tighter than those cut later.
Hey, that's a great idea! I am pretty sure you are correct but I am going to set up the chrono and see.
That makes sense...
The gap probably varied slightly. Even with state of the art manufacturing capability you'll have a few thousandths difference here and there. And when it's a few thousandths more or less at the gap.. yikes.
Quite clearly there is something wrong with me as I really enjoy those chronograph reading comparisons as well as all of your content. Thanks Mr. Harrell.
Thanks Paul. I don’t own a heritage but do own a ruger wrangler and it sure is a lot of fun to shoot 👍👍
This is the one channel that can interrupt my college football Saturday.
One thing I like about my Rough Rider is the ability to eject the spent rounds into my hand instead of them being scattered by a semi-auto.
That's what SHE said!
lol@@jt2473
As far as longer barrels being "more accurate" I believe that is usually attributable to the longer sight radius.
It's easier to tell if your sight alignment is slightly off with a longer sight radius.
I own the 6" barrel version. The space between cylinder and barrel is insane. ALSO the cylinder moves forward and backwards. You get what you pay for. (I never bought it, it was a gift) don't give cheap guns as gifts. Keep up the good work paul!
I hadn't even considered the gap with the 16" barrel....thanks for the comparisons!! And yes...I watch the chronograph....I like science what can I say.
My daughter runs Remington 36 grain hollow points in her Rough Rider. She is becoming a fine shot with it. We went through, if I remember correctly, 6 brand/ weight/bullet type configurations before finding what works for her and her revolver. Thank you for the thorough and entertaining video.
The rough rider and Ruger Wrangler are both good first time training guns.. and cheap ammo for plinking was good, especially during the summer of love, when ammo was sparse and expensive, for my defence guns
Comparing the Ruger and the Heritage, the price was almost the same where I was, but the trigger was way better on the Ruger. I also like I can get lots of grips for the Wrangler (It uses Single-Six grips) and can only get cheesy ugly grips for the heritage. The Ruger is better built and smoother overall.
The Ruger Wranger is incomparably better quality.
@@GusFogle it’s an incomparably higher price for a gun whose only purpose is to be a fun little plinker. To each their own, but I’m not too picky with single action .22’s. When you get into concealed carry guns, home defense, and life and liberty guns, that’s when I start to not worry as much about price. But it’s a lot of fun for $100. I get it if you want to spend the extra $100 on a ruger wrangler, but I’m personally not gonna be trusting my life to this gun so I don’t see why I would spend that.
While I was all about the Wrangler and would have recommended it over a Heritage personal experience has show that the Wrangler has a serious issue. I've had 3 (the first one I bought and the second two were warranty replacements from Ruger) and all of them developed keyholing every round within the first hundred shots, with every type of ammo I tried. I don't know what caused it, and I don't know how wide spread it is but I can't see 3 guns having an identical problem as being coincidence.
@@seann2769 Maybe because it isn't made out of Zamak and I can load 6 rounds in it every time without the risk of AD'ing. I'm not crazy about buying guns with an expiration date. The Ruger also has a warranty that doesn't expire. I got one for $190 and it was worth the cost compared to something like a Bearcat.
I'm perpetually in love with the Pop-Tarts pictures.
I have a heritage 6 " that the wife got me for 109 bucks on black Friday a couple of years ago.. it shoots a little to the left.. I've read I can bend the front sight a little bit..
But I just aim a little to the right..
Works fer me
I own two of these one 6.5” bbl and the barkeep model. The barkeep shoots the same as yours so I adjust for that and it hits fine.
@@peternorton5648 same here, have both, plus the 4.75 (my personal favorite).
I appreciate the difference in sound between the rough riders and the 10/22 as the latter can be clearly heard to be pushing its projectiles into the supersonic.
I also heard the difference immediately as well, good ear!
I have literally been having this question for like 2 months since I've been looking into getting one of these. Thank you very much, Paul.
Why don't you just buy one? They're pretty cheap.
@@jd9119 Simple... Why would someone shell out a little more than $150 (prices vary) if they're unsure if it's worth even that much? I've seen old H&R .22 plinkers that were more dangerous to the shooter than the target, even in new condition. Better to gather as much information as possible before pulling the trigger on a plinker pistol. It may be cheaper than some other guns, but it's 2 weeks groceries for someone like me.
@@itatane yeah, we read a lot of reviews, watched a lot of videos comparing the guns before we spent some hard cash...eventually we bought the Heritage, and it has done okay...that one screw up front has to be constantly retightened these days (I'm ready to try the red loctite), but elsewise all good...the gun is beginning to look a little worn, doesn't bother us...the Wrangler has that lifetime warranty, but that might be the best feature...the Diamondbacks have a ton of features, but also a heftier pricetag...these are pretty cheap guns, we shouldn't expect them to age like a rarely fired Colt Python...we do know we couldn't justify spending 500-1000 for a single action .22, no matter how nice...i'm not a Rockefeller...
I am contemplating buying one of these, (free .22WMR cylinder!). But I wasn't sure which barrel length to go with. So I figured RUclips could help me out. How absolutely wonderful there is a Paul Harrell video covering this topic! You helped me make my decision. Thanks Paul, you rock! Stay strong!
I have 6 of these pistols .I started buying them because of the different patriotic grips. When I couldn`t find different patrioric grips I started buying plain guns and replacing the grips . These are cool affordable guns even when buy extra grips mag cylinders etc.I watched this episode of yours because I value your opinion.Some of the info surprised me great info God bless .Dennis
I have the Heritage Roughrider in 4 7/8 with adjustable sights and a 22 wmr cylinder. It’s a fine shooting revolver with either cylinder. Another thorough and interesting video. I look forward to each one.
An interesting comparison of barrel length to velocity.
Of the three Rough Riders I own (6.5", 4.75", and a 3.5" birdshead grip) the best shooter is the shorter 3.5". Interestingly enough, that is the shortest barrel length that I still can see the front sight after cataract surgery. A 2" revolver's front sight is invisible. And I no longer have any snubnose revolvers or compact autoloaders. Won't keep what I can't use.
@Paul Harrell
Brother, by the fundamental forces of the universe its GOOD to get the Pop Tart thumbnails back. IMHO its one of the most illustrative things about you as person and the intentions of this channel. Have fun, be serious when you need to be, don't take yourself too seriously and always be willing to have a laugh at yourself.
Bravo good sir
I have TWO Heritage Rough Riders, 4 3/4" barrel on both. LOVE THEM. They shoot anything I put in it straight and on target.
Thank you Paul and our crew for another great video. You never disappoint Sir.
Great videos anytime they come from Paul Harrell! I always learn something watching his channel. The jokes are always excellent!!
Howdy Paul, once again you gave a very detailed and informative presentation. 👍 Thank you sir. Be Safe and have a Blessed Day 🙌
Thank You for the presentation. It was very interesting, lower speeds with longer barrels do to leaks between the cylinder and barrel.
Thanks for the awesome video Paul! I love my Heritage Rough Riders. Good price and tons of fun!
As always, a very good review and comparison, what we all expect from Paul Harrell and "the crew." Thank you to all.
As always thank you for this presentation Paul and Crew
Another informative and productive video. Thank u sir!
Love the videos. Love the PopTarts intros! I own the 16" barrel and the ~5" barrel ones. Definitely good "bang for your buck". Please continue the very informative videos.
He was thinking about hanging it up, but since you asked nicely, he won't.
I picked up the revolver for a little over $100 new. Fun range gun for my son and I. I totally agree with the single shot gun for a beginner, the thought of handing a 9yr old a 25 shot auto .22 on his first try made me apprehensive. He did great btw. We also have a Rossi pump action .22 which is fun as well.
GF has that Rossi gallery gun. It's a hoot!
The Henry 001 model is a fun one for 22lr too
@@erickyle5604 It is! I have a Golden Boy.
Gold as always! Thanks Paul keep doing what you do!
Excellent presentation as always.
Thanks.
I have personally been injured by this firearm due to the cylinder gap.
My best understanding on what happened was that for whatever reason, the cylinder must have not been completely aligned with the barrel. A significant amount of lead came out, along with some powder and due to my grip, sprayed my first finger and the web of my thumb.
It took some time to dig all of the debris out of my hand.
What you describe does sound like the cylinder being somewhat out of time. Definitely possible. When the hammer is advanced to the third position, the cylinder will stop with the next firing chamber being slightly off, although the cylinder can be manually rotated to the correct position. By squeezing quite hard, the gun WILL fire from this third hammer position. It doesn't like being in this third position, and for normal usage, the hammer wants to be in the fourth position.
Not an engineer or gunsmith, but this does seem to make it possible for a worn or damaged gun to fire from the fourth hammer position with the cylinder thus out of time. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@@et76039 a rare instance of the Third Position being a negative...
Learn how to hold a revolver and that can't happen.
@@morrismonet3554 learn how not to be a troll and save the rest of us from your wasted breath.
@@antidulvian666 COD Player detected. LOL
One caveat if I may add…even if you’re not shooting anything with potential for blowback I can say from experience that shooting a silenced. 22 at paper is not a good idea without eye-pro and I have the ophthalmology receipts to prove it. Learned it the hard way.
Love all your content Paul, thank you.
So are you saying that "shooting a silenced .22 at paper" doesn't have potential for blow back, but you should still wear eye pro? Or are you saying that you should wear eye pro while "shooting a silenced .22 at paper" because it has potential for blow back?
@@notahotshot assuming here, but it sounds like the back pressure from the suppressor blew debris into the shooters eyes during the extraction phase.
Great job on info I didn't know I needed, but throughly enjoyed learning.
Love your channel Paul. Informative and entertaining.
I love the rough riders. The sights a bad usually, but after a bit of shooting you get to know your gun and you adapt and compensate to shoot tight groups. The only issue is that you gotta stick to one type of ammo or it shoots different, but that's all guns
My understanding is that these Heritage revolvers have a 224 barrel so they can accommodate 22 mag bullets. The smaller 22 LR ammo may not have a good enough gas seal to make comparisons accurate.
A couple thousandths make a big difference if that’s the case.
I think the bullet diameters are the same between the two cartridges, so I'm not sure there would be 224 barrels, would there? I think the difference would be in the cylinders only. The 22 mag cylinder would have slightly larger chambers.
I've tried both cylinders messing around at shooting range and don't get me wrong,they both suck! I get way more accuracy with my lienad derringer with 22 LR insert. To be such a small derringer I just can't miss! Me and my hunting buddies had a ball with that little derringer
another great one, thank you once again. its pretty crazy, a buddy was just telling me about these, they look pretty cool!
Another great, well thought-out video. I really appreciate your work Paul.
God bless all here.
Heritage "Rough as Hell" Rider Revolver. The one cavate I can provide is to NEVER remove the screws from the frame. The frame is cast White-Metal. The frame screw holes will strip-out, I just installed 5 helical's into two different revolvers for this.
I have since swore of this gun for repairs and cannot recommend it until Heritage starts using a better frame. For the same money, currently $189 you can purchase a Ruger Wrangler revolver. And though it's no Single-Six, the forged/milled aluminum frames are very well done. And the fit of all parts and finish in Cerakote is top shelf. You be the judge.
Lol, the screws tend to work themselves loose...my battle is the one upfront holding the ejector rod housing...red loctite is the next plan...yeah, the Ruger is engineered a bit better, the material a bit better, the warranty definitely better...the Heritage offers the .22wmr cylinder, 4 distinct clicks, the safety (omg!), and the cylinder isn't freewheeling, cheaper in price...we will never spend 500-1000 on an excellent (maybe) .22 single action revolver, just can't do it...our Heritage has several thousand rounds downrange now, perhaps we just bought a decent one...
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww very good. though I would say to use Blue 242 Loctite not Red. The Blue can be removed if needed with regular hand tools. Red would require the application of heat to remove the screw. Good luck and have fun shooting.
I had to disassemble both of mine several times to replace broken parts. No issues with threads stripping though. I did have to replace a couple screws that backed out and were lost though.
@@redtra236 good on you. though it does make one wonder at the Ferocity of recoil of the mighty .22 that it loosens its own screws upon use. 0~o
but as before I recommend blue-Loctite. and in a pinch lacquer nail polish. ^~^
I have 2 in the 6.5 in barrel. The one with 4.75 in barrel died after ~10K rounds. The fun to price ratio on these revolvers is super high.
What do you mean by 'died'? The frame broke? Most anything else could be fixed. My most-fired Heritage has 2650 rounds through it and no problems yet.
@@MrTruckerf The frame where the firing pin comes through. The pin was apparently just off center enough that it eventually wore a groove in the hole where the pin protrudes. Instead of being circular, the hole was oval. Caused mis-fires about 40% of the time. Heritage stated it was beyond repair when I returned it.
Cheers!
@@submanusn3692 sounds to me like drilling it out and fitting a steel sleeve in it would have been a fairly easy fix, wouldn’t even need to go with steel it could be brass or copper to make friction fitting it easier.
@@jaydunbar7538 Yeah, sounds like a fun gunsmithing project. If it doesn't work, oh well, it was broken anyway, and you didn't ruin a $1k revolver trying.
@@submanusn3692 10,000 rounds, that is a ton of single action shooting...ours has about 3,000 on it and i thought i was doing good...
The sound that carbine makes while you were cocking the hammer back, was quite satisfying!😁 Thank you for you and your teams hard work and effort towards making these vids. Hope y’all have a good day!
Thanks for the great content, always appreciated.
Very informative.
One of the things I have noted in expensive verses inexpensive revolvers is less attention to the cylinder gap and forcing cone.
I would love to see a close up measurement of the cylinder gap. Is it under .006? Are both faces smooth (barrel and cylinder)? Is there a slick / smooth surface to the forcing cone? I have sometimes been surprised what I can achieve with a bit of polishing on a cheap firearm. Anyone?
I don't own a chronograph, but I own a Rough Rider Rancher, and a Taurus Circuit Judge in 22lr/22wmr, and one thing I can say is the Taurus has a GIANT forcing cone, and other chronograph demonstrations I've seen with the same rifle show a tremendous loss in velocity due to this. Ammo fired from the 22lr Circuit Judge get roughly the same velocity as a rimfire pistol would.
What a great illustration of pressure loss in a revolver: Something I've never considered when deciding which handgun to purchase. I still love my Rough Rider. I wonder how the Heritage compares to a higher quality pistol like a Colt or S&W?
When you consider the price difference, it compares quite well. But the Colt or S&W will go up in value while the Heritage will go down, so maybe not the best to invest in.
@@MrTruckerf Yep - At least, the pre-hillary-hole ones will. I wouldn't give a plugged nickel for the new ones. On the other hand, if you come offer me a grand for my 15-1 (1959 left-the-vault date) or 19-2 (serial says it left the vault between 1961 and 1962 - haven't gotten around to getting that one lettered yet, so can't be more precise), I'll be left with no option but to wave you down the road, since I'll be too busy rolling around laughing to be able to tell you to buzz off. :)
@@MrTruckerf I think it is a bit early in their life cycle to insist that the Heritage will go down in value in the future. They might not have the same brand recognition as Colt or S&W, but that may come with time and they do fill a niche often ignored by other manufacturers.
I was surprised by the velocity loss. Wow.
@@luciussvartwulf6630 they will go down in value do to quantity made, of course as they age there will be a collectors value given enough time but that will be primarily for the few specimens that are still in excellent condition in 100 years.
Excellent presentation thank you for your time posting this information.
You do a fantastic job. Always good info.
I have a Ruger Wrangler in .22lr and love it. In my area at least it's very comparable in price (about 20-30$ more than the RR) and after shooting and handling both, I prefer the Ruger. It feels a little "nicer" and you don't have to pull the hammer back to freewheel the cylinder, just open the loading gate, which I find to be a nice touch. It doesn't have a safety lever like the RRs though. That doesn't bother me, but if I were buying it for someone as their first gun or something, that might become an issue.
Anyway, nothing wrong with the RRs, just mentioning an additional choice for folks looking for a .22lr revolver in an extremely affordable package.
I have been bitten by this bug also, I must have 5 of these silly things. Birds head grip pink for my daughter, short barrels, long barrels, nine shots, and none of them were very expensive. They all shoot well and they are tons of fun.
You might need another 16" to this time put a stock on
@@newerest1 over time I probably will get one of each. They are just silly. Mostly
How does she like that Birds head gun...? another Heritage good ways down the wishlist, but i might win the lottery...
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww It handles super nice and she shoots it well.
This is the exact test my inner gun geek was wanting to test or see someone else test it. Awesome video !
You are quite welcome, for my attention, and thank YOU, Paul, for making such great content.
I absolutely LOVE these revolvers. They're cheap, reliable and a whole ton of fun.
They're also (in my opinion) the best first gun for anyone to own. Basically zero recoil, cheap to shoot and really hammers in the idea that every shot matters and accuracy is king with only 6 shots and an extremely long reloading time
My number one excuse for buying mine was "it's a great training pistol for first time shooters." That's my story and I'm sticking to it dammit.. lol
Wow, you actually got a reliable Rough Rider???? Put that one under glass in a museum, the perfect place would be Ripley’s Believe It Or Not museum. These guns are total garbage and for SO many reasons. Glad you got one you’re happy with!
Thanks for the video. I have bought 4 of the 9 round versions. The only trouble that I have ever had, was revealed to be caused by the screws being loose.
Loctite is your friend...! the blue is preferred, but with the screw holding the ejector rod housing I am seriously thinking trying red loctite...it gets a little irksome constantly retightening that one screw...maybe duct tape, hmm...
Top shelf concluding remarks. A very good video!
Excellent video Paul, thank you once again
Bought a Ruger Single Six Convertible with the additional .22 Magnum cylinder about 20 years ago for $220. Love that gun. Couldn't afford one these days. At least not without saving up for a few months.
I think I would go with the Ruger Wrangler over the Heritage Rough Rider if I wanted another S/A .22.
I just detest that thumb safety although they are better looking guns overall. .
no way. wrangler no WMR cylinder or 9-round option
I got one as a toy, definetly did the job. I got to play cowboy a few times and didn't have to buy a vaquero or buy into 45 colt 😁
I will say the safety is annoying but understandable in the litigious age we live in, and the finish is clearly 'budget friendly' which is why I bought it. I also like their support of accessories.
I know i am late to the party but i have only been watching you videos for the last 3 years . I have enjoyed most of them . as most of them are very informative especially for those who have no firearm experience with a firearm. i hope you are doing well and wishing you a speedy recovery.
Great video. I am about to go back through your latest vids as I have not been getting them on my feed.