Ngannou Out-THOUGHT & Out-FOUGHT Fury ! 🧠 | EP46 | talkBOXING with Simon Jordan & Spencer Oliver
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- 00:00 - Introduction
00:55 - Tyson Fury v Francis Ngannou Review
25:20 - Fabio Wardley v David Adeleye & Undercard Review
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Could Ngannou Become A Serious Heavyweight Contender?👀
Yes, the heavyweight division is not too great in my Casaul opinion.
It was boxmania...a piece of work to ensure a rematch. You folk are the innocents that Fury loves.
Ngannou never even had one amateur boxing match in his life,boxing and Fury got exposed.
He is! He will maul Usky easy.
Teddy atlas got it spot on
Whether you have Fury or Ngannou winning doesn't even matter, the fact it is even debateable is a win for Ngannou and a loss for Fury in the minds of the people.
Bent comment but 90% correct
100% correct
@@SWISSMUSICFCI found the fury fanboy 👆👆👆👆👆
Unfortunately that's irrelevant the only thing that matters is the decision. 20 years from now people won't be saying this was a close fight. It will show on record Fury won. That's why getting the offical decision is important
@Allah_is_great__ 🤦♂️
Frank Warren was right about one thing. It was a "game changer," but not how he pictured it 😂
😂😂
Pass GO and pick up a slice of humble pie
Amen 😂😂😂
Absolutely 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Larry Holmes defended his title 20 times against killers. Fury's stats just don't add up to the hype.
Yes he did, quite correct.. But it's amazing how many people have completely forgotten that Ali, considered the greatest heavyweight boxer once fought a wrestler.... With ale spending most of the so called fight flat on his back just kicking out at the wrestler... Who's name escapes me also he wanted to fight a basketball player.. Wilt the stilt... 😂😂😂😂 OK for some then
@@Michael-zg8qw difference is...Ali fought a wrestler AFTER he fought everyone in his division!
@@JamesCF10indeed, the same with Mayweather
Over rated 💯
Ali fought Shavers and Foreman and Holmes and Berbick and Liston and Frazier he didn't duck anybody.
Ngannou knocking Fury down has made Matchrooms year.
Sad state of affairs for Matchroom thats whay they are hanging their hat on.
It’s made everyone’s year who doesn’t dream of Luke and Frank having a sword fight in their mouth.
What about us that don't like AJ and think Eddie's a snake? Because I'm over the fxxking moon 🕺🍻🥳😁.
Be a fan of the sport, not the network.
AJ now knocks Fury out apparently lol
It's made everyone's year😂
Why are none of the pundits mentioning the elbow?
Brown envelope business because the clips have gone viral. There's no way they have not seen it.
Or the low blow.
Simon has gone from absolutely no way watching the Fury v Ngannou to now reviewing it 🤣
He accidentally went somewhere it was on & accidentally couldn't take his eyes off it..😅
Won’t actually comment on it though 😂 let’s Adam and everyone else say it. Refuses to do the write up in papers. SIMON SCARED TO SAY HOW HE TRULY FEELS 😂
Well that was until everyone told him it was a robbery lmao
We all do things we say we won’t, he’s human like the rest of us
I don’t think it’s fear of saying how he feels I think he just knows he doesn’t understand the skills so he leaves it to others
Is it possible that perhaps Tyson Fury isnt nearly as good as what hes family think he is ?
Insert John Fury impression here; "no man alive......! 🤣
@@mintint4965 😂😂😂
Usyk will run rings around Fury and stop him because he won’t allow Fury to hold him. That simple
1 million percent, agree 🥊🥊he never gets held he always pushes them away and he’s always on the move as well , his left hook and accuracy will be a nightmare for Tyson IF he has the fight , i honestly feel like Tyson will try and get out of it
You think Usyk will stop Fury
Big claim
I see Fury grinding down Usyk and stopping him late
He couldn't stop an MMA fighter mate...@@peterf08
"There's no doubt that Tyson is the Number 1 Heavyweight of the modern era". Ridiculous comment from Spencer. There's a lot of doubt now, thats why he needs to fight Usyk!!
Fury opting to take easy fights has finally backfired. He got caught out with Wallin and now Ngannou. Klitscho, Wilder and Whyte (WBC no.1 at the time) are his only notable opponents.
You mean perceived “easy” fights. Ask Tyson if they were easy. If they are his only notable opponents then he’s done well because he beat all of them!
Wallin and Cunningham are better than Whyte
But he fought them didn't he? He's got in with the biggest names of his generation. And now he's gonna get in with Usyk
@@riansillett2771 bet there will be an “injury” to delay the fight
@riansillett2771 the biggest names of his generation? You mean a 40 year old klitscko and wilder whos best win is life and death with a 99 year old luis ortiz?
That Ngannou guy look so quiet & gentle outside the ring. What an easy going guy. I actually think Ngannou won too.
Finally props to Francis very calm and also very strong guy who knew the basics of boxing.
Hopefully someone finally talks about that nasty elbow the putts landed. Shameful "champion"
Cope
@@abb7118Cope? I was rooting for Fury ya knob...
@@abb7118knob
Anthony Joshua hammer fisted and low blowed Usyk, he hit Andy after referee said "break" but still quit in the end. He also hit and hold Italian journeyman on his Debut😂
@@Anonymous-bb8mg yep, his meltdown cry baby stuff after Usyk whooped em was shameful too and I said so when it happened. But what's he got to do with Fury blatantly elbowing a novice boxer?
I wish these people would stop saying "Francis Ngannou, whose never had a fight before" as if he wasn't literally a dominant heavyweight champion in the top MMA organisation. If anything, BOXERS haven't had a fight before. They've boxed.
Well said mate
Amen! They never call him a ex UFC CHAMPION just say ex UFC fighter
Ok, is it fair to say “Francis Ngannou, who’s not a professional boxer and has had 0 professional boxing fights as this was his first fight as a professional boxer”?
Clearly those people are implying a boxing match by saying fight as it’s a boxing podcast you div
@@joeacloke So what? It diminishes Francis by saying he has never had a fight. It's ridiculous. He has had plenty of fights and was a literal heavyweight world champion. Even Usyk picked up on it ffs
Very similar to Apollo's attitude in Rocky 1 and V Drago. Too relaxed playing about
Simon as a fellow sufferer, I’m glad to see you looking well 👍🏼
On the fight, it was not a good fight at all, it was close, Fury was unprepared imo, so out of shape I get the impression that he thought this will be good sparring now I’ve cut the weight. As for ranking Ngannu in the Top 10, it shows the corruption in boxing and especially the WBC. Catterall is just saying what I’ve said all along. I’m not saying Joshua is as good as Fury but I know which one has taken on all comers and it ain’t Fury. Sorry to speak facts I know it upsets fanboys
I remember Joshua vividly turning down Wilder multiple times so sit down and stop revising history because you're annoyed with Fury. 😂
You fool it was the other way around Wilder even admitted on camera that he turned down a hundred million dollars offer from Joshua. I am not a fan of any boxers but I am a fan of boxing Fury and Wilder both stain boxing badly.@@jais5807
@@jais5807wilder even wrote on his own social media account and said it in an interview that he turned down Joshua for undisputed to fight fury for less money.
They also offered him 3 different contracts, wilder sacked someone in his team for trying to get the fight done lol. They offered him 120 million for whyte first then Joshua. They tottered him contracts over DAZN and matchroom. You do realise anyone can send an offer for a fight don’t you. Guess how many Joshua’s team got from wilder? None. 0. You think an instagram post saying I’ll offer him 50mill without any details of anything else. Is an offered. What Joshua is mean to get his lawyers to look over an instagram status lol. But you vividly remember do you. Someone needs to sit down. And it ain’t the person you’re replying too, don’t let your heart make your head sound stupid.
@@jais5807 the cap fits you well pal
@@freddiefreeman4119 Tyson Fury must really get you all emotional to the point you have to lie about recent history. 😂
I agree with Teddy Atlas that it was probably a points win for Fury, but close. However Nngannou absolutely had the moral victory and Fury was embarrassed and humbled. His colossal ego was getting out of control, but his "ego balloon" got popped.
Ironically this might help him against Usyk, because his ego trip has had the brakes applied, and he might train harder for Undisputed fight now. That being said, I still believe, like I did before this fight, that Usyk will defeat Fury, because Fury has struggled with movers in the past, and Usyk I believe will be Fury's best opponent of his career.
Fair rational comment not a lot of that about post fight, Teddy was bang on Fury won 97-93
How bad heavyweight champion beaten by a novice in the ring . Perfectly humbled
@@rossalexander2640fury out landed Francis with power shots in 2 from from 10 only. And got dropped. So what did he do to win? Land a few more jabs? Since when does that win fights. They also score for effective aggression and ring generalship. Surely that does to Francis too as well as the better shots landing. And the knockdown. How did you give fury all them rounds he took better shots?
Dominic Ingle has it 6-4 to Fury
Not only did you end up watching it, you can't stop talking about it lol.
Why isn't anyone mentioning the second knock down that was brushed off as a "slip"?
Go watch it back, like I have, because it definitely wasn't a slip, he was knocked down.
When?
I was really please for Wardly. I was screaming at my TV for him to throw straight shots. David acted like the big roadman then went out and fought like that 😂 reject
Wardly was solid and very professional, he showed his class schooling Adeleye. I believe Wardley is going to be good 👍🏻
I’m sure Wardley couldn’t believe how easy a night it was for him
Talksport are obsessed with Fury vs Ngannou 😂.... an event they spent 5 months disrespecting 😂😂😂
Cordina fighting in front of 300 people this weekend on DAZN. Why not give that a plug???? 😂😂
Fury got battered by a 37 year old inactive MMA fighter who’s never boxed 😂😂😂😂🤣
Hi both, you should check out Fury’s body language when they first read out the first score card. Fury embarrassingly claps at Ngannou’s winning score. He new from the start he had lost!
Fury knew he had lost no singing no trash talk to usyk no press after fight and John and Tommy would have been in the shouting the odds . Instead they were rushing to get in. A car to get out of there . They all knew he’d lost .
Fury is finished for me just look at his body language after the fight that tells you the true story
The fact Fury looked weight drained like the first Wilder fight while also weighing a career heaviest says all we need to know about how his training for Ngannou went.
And that's all on him he's accountable for that he knows better.
Why does everyone use this excuse as if its valid?? The only version of a fighter that matters is the one that turns up on the night. If he didn't put the work in, then thats on him. Plus, all during the lead up and eveen afterwards he says he had a 12 week camp and took it seriously. He got whooped. If that's because he didn't want to put the work in, so be it.
he prob back on the coke
@@hassyg4083he's back on it now for sure😂😂😂
@@flyingfrogofdeath9616They say these things as if Ngannou wasn't holding back😂 The results would have been the same or worse for fury. Francis didn't turn up because he knew he was dominant and assumed he was ahead.
Simon Jordan knows exactly fvck all about boxing🎉🎉🎉
Fury wasnt off at all, he was outclassed by a debutant, at his level he shouldve made easy work of it regardless
Ungannou is a killer with solid fundamentals he would flatten AJ
6:30 Ngannou knows Boxing would protect their own no need to kick up a fuss against corruption.
A draw would have meant grounds for a rematch and Fury would rather lose to Usyk than take another beating from Ngannou 😂
In a rematch, Fury beats Ngannou handily just like how he adjusted against Chisora, Mcdermot and Wilder. He has boxing IQ in spades even tho people want to slag him to death for this weak performance
It was very close . Fury landed more punched and Francis did more damage. Draw or one round swing whatever way you like
How do you get a draw in a 10-round fight with a knockdown?
@@spillage9392 I just mean when I was loosing at it and not scoring I felt like it was maybe a draw but obviously over the 10-8 round it couldn't be ..After rewatching it I thought 96-95 fury
100% not a robbery Fury outworked him in most rds, Ngannou done more damage but only in 2 rds , Fury would always bounce back and win the next rd , 4/9
@@spillage9392 depends who wins the round. It’s a 10-9 round if fury won the round. Not 10-8. Or a close round is 10-10. Either one.
@@rossalexander2640Francis out landed fury with power shots in 5 rounds and drew 3. Fury only 2 rounds. Who out worked who? Plus the knockdown
I thought Francis won it clearly, but on the second watch.. I don’t think FN was busy enough, TF defo won more rounds clearly. That said, had TF up by 2pts at the end. Prob had clouded judgement during the fight due to how well NG conducted himself in the ring. Run it back, do it properly, 12 rounds!
It definitely should have been 2 rounds longer, I reckon Fury would have started to creep away on the cards
How it is “clearly” it’s anything but clearly. Fury out landed Francis in the stats with power shots in 2 rounds from 10 only. With a knockdown. What that means is you’re giving fury plenty of rounds that he took bigger and better shots. But giving it to fury. Makes no sense
I don't like fury & wish he lost but on the cards he did enough. I'm disappointed in so many professionals not understanding their own sport. Teddy Atlas actually got the breakdown right on this. The majority just get over excited & can't be neutral, typical humans & because most humans fall into this behaviour they think consensus=correct and it doesn't.
Ngannou won the night & if it was on the street he would of won the fight but this is a boxing match with a score based system & fury won that.
Well said, was pretty clear
Not clear at all, he lost. It was a close fight but Ngannou did enough to win. (5-5 with a 10-8 knockdown to Ngannou is the most sensible scorecard after watching twice but I still have doubts). Fury should've had a point taken for the single most blatant elbow I've ever seen in a boxing match. Funnily enough it did zero damage and because Francis is used to MMA he just kept walking forward instead of complaining to the ref and likely getting tagged by fury as he goes to protest. Either way, he kept stalking that big fat dosser. Regardless of the scorecards this is a massive humilation for fury and rightfully so. This has fully stapled his terrible legacy for the fraud it is. Congratulations to Francis, the world is in the palm of his hand.
Teddy was spot on, most people can't score a fight and msm and youtube channels want clicks. Fury was crap, nganu was much better than expected, they need to rematch and I expect Fury would destroy him
@@Rob-ih6dl every expected the same the first time round. You have to remember Francis is 37, fury will likely take the Usyk fight in Feb, disappear for a year plus and then try get the rematch after Ngannou is a couple years older and a few more fight in.
@@flyingfrogofdeath9616 96-93, at best 95-94 Fury, was clear
It seems as though the Fury’s kryptonite is fighters without a professional boxing background
Fury was embarrassed badly, the world saw the “generational talent” get absolutely handled.
Much like when Lennox Lewis got Ko’d by two bums. The best are not invincible - everyone has bad nights
@@badgasaurus4211put some respect on Lennox’s two bums, they were actual boxers no MMA fighters hahahahah! Fury is Nanodrol cheating fraud. Bottom of the pile.
They still have the cheek to dub him the “best fighter of his generation” too 🤣
Lewis got caught and kod. That can happen to anyone at heavyweight and he got caught by career boxers. Fury got soundly outboxed by a non boxer 2 completely different scenarios.
@@zuberali7542 But Wasn’t the reason Lewis got KO’d is because he got outboxed by McCall tho? I suppose a more applicable example would have been Mike Tyson vs Buster Douglas
Fury's conditioning was a disgrace. He took the fight as a joke, fist bumping Ngannou between rounds and all sorts. In the end, Fury became the joke.
No, he came with a plan and got punched in the face.😂
Correct. The way he abuses his body will catch up with him one day. Nearly happened on Sat.
Fist bump was to acknowledge the skill and power, respect is respect and wen u underestimate someone and they come good, only thing I can do is tip ur hat.
@@deobugs It was patronising. You fist bump and congratulate each other after the fight. It showed he didn't have the full focus.
I don't understand why is there such a difference in opinion on who wins a fight. What is the criteria in winning a fight? Over 90% of the public thought Ngannou won the fight but the 2/3 judges had Fury win the fight. To me there's a big disconnect as to how fights are scored and they need to clear up these misconceptions because it's ruining boxing's reputation. Despite all the issues that are currently involved in boxing (e.g. drug tests, corruption) there needs to be a better way of handling this as the honest people that are involved in this sport lose out.
Can Simon Jordan talk about Simon Jordan anymore than Simon Jordan talks about Simon Jordan. He'll enjoy this post because it has Simon Jordan in it. Because Simon Jordan loves Simon Jordan.
I thought Fury edged it the first time I watched it, but only after watching it again and actually scoring each round - I had it 4 rounds each, with 2 drawn rounds. The 10-8 in round 3 clinched it for Ngannou for me. 96-95. And I also was trying to favour Fury while scoring.
Ngannou won 3 rounds at most. Fury outboxed him in 7 rounds and won by UD😂
Nah
That’s a very honest assessment
When is the last time your saw a judge score a round as a draw? They always pick one way.
7/3 to fury, he out scored him, watch it again.
Look at fights like rashidi ellis vs roiman villa, one man had more work but the other had better work. I feel Francis had the better work and so do most people which for me should’ve won him the fight
Another class episode and can i say im all for the swearing not being beeped out!
I will emphatically say I will never listen to spencer olivers scoring of a fight again he watched 3 times and still got it wrong...wow
99% of the public + 1 professional judge scored it in favour of Ngannou.
Fury been called an all-time great is ridiculous . How'd he earn that? Beating an older Klitcko on a terrible points decision? Of fighting the mediocre Wlder three times, and never fighting anyone else.
It honestly baffles me how these guys still try and claim him to be that great
Anthony defended. 12 times. fury defended 3 who's great hmn mm mm. Okay.
Fury is done. The sooner he leaves boxing the better. Let the sport and the division recover from his cancerous infection.
💯
Absolutely, he's the worst thing that's happened to the Heavyweight division for a long time.
What did Fury remind FN of in the run up to the fight ………
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Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
Looks like Fury was reminded of that lesson
Ok Simon your talking with sense and intellect today I’ll re subscribe no hate is the way 🤛🏿
Really Wardley he must have been feeling the pressure because of what happened in the build up. Like the way he carried himself throughout it all and he done his talking in ring. Was an excellent performance and the stoppage will do wonders for his confidence. Looking forward to seeing how far he can go. He stops Clarke mid to late rounds next if that fight happens.
Mad this and the misfits card Simon ends up in places where the fights are on by chance 😂
I show you the winner of the fight without you having to watch it.
Just look at the two men after the fight. Did anyone ever see Fury’s morale as low after any other legitimate win??? NO. He knew damn well he lost. A picture paints a thousand words
Could it not be a factor that he WAS meant to be fighting Usyk on the 23 Dec? Roy Jones Jr said a similar thing.
The fight went exactly how I expected it to go to.
I couldn't call it. I expected Ngannou to be great.
Fury lost,he never sang a silly song.. Sausage!
people need to realise that Ngannou boxes in the UFC, and he knows how to grapple, so Ngannou already knows how to fight professionally. It's not like he has never fought beforehand or he's just turned professional after only fighting in the amateurs. So, yes, it is one of the best debuts in boxing history, but there is more to take into context. Ngannou is also one of the hardest opponents to challenge in his debut fight.
People need to understand how scoring works. Fury won by a round or two you don't win by power punches or by damage done to your opponent's face you win by the cleaner punches landed,
and better footwork.
I had it 96 - 94/95 to Fury it was close at times and Ngannou did himself and MMA proud I'm not surprised how well Ngannou fought. He showed his ability to handle himself in MMA and boxing with his boxing ability. I really want to see Ngannou fight again in boxing.
Ngannou didn't win the last round, the last round was a draw, at best. Quite a lot of judges don't like to score a round a draw so they give the close rounds to the champ, which is Fury!
Fury - 10 10 8 10 10 10 9 9 10 10 - 96
Ngannou - 9 9 10 9 9 9 10 10 9 10 - 94
If Fury was not his best version whose fault was it? I mean this is the same fury that was supposed to be having the unification fight..the fight that was meant to be his biggest fight in just two months.....Fury went for a easy payday and found himself in a real fight.
NOTE: Fury knew he lost the fight....he did not sing in the ring after the fight..did not go to the press conference to answer questions.
I agree I scored it 96-92 to Ngannou. Unfortunately it's the pound notes that talk, so the result does not surprise me to be honest.
dont get into boxing judging please
@@shakalaka1477Because he won’t give gift decisions to overrated British boxers?
Ngannou won 3 out of 10 rounds. Fury won the fight 96-93
Wowza. 😆
@@DavidGoldXOr you don’t know shyt about scoring boxing matches
Simon doesn’t half hold a grudge 😂😂just because someone did better than expected doesn’t mean they won a fight either. Fury won by 3 rounds. It was an extremely poor showing but he did win.
Yeah I mean doesn't he know this is Boxing. Fury can throw an illegal elbow get his face smashed in do less damage then Francis but its ok because he landed a bunch of weak no damage jabs. Welcome to boxing! 🎉
Hell hath no Fury like Simon Jordan scorned.
fury out landed Francis in 2 rounds from 10 with power shots. Just 2. And was knockdown down. But it was clear he won was it? Get got dropped twice. Got out punched with power. How you meant to win. By landed a few extra jabs. Lol. This isn’t amateur boxing where you score points. Fury got out struck. Beat up and knockdown down. Lost the ring generalship battle. The effective aggressions battle. Everything a judge scores for Francis was the boss.
What rounds did you give fury. The ones where he took the bigger shots. And why would you give them to fury. I wanna understand the mind of an idiot
Ngannou won 3 roundds. Hitting shoulders, biceps, and elbows, isn't scoring. He was great in rounds 3, 7 and 8 and did a lot better than anyone assumed and he certainly roughed Fury up. He didn't win that fight though
@@NeilHawkins-zq7bm Ngannou did not win round 2. Slow the footage down if you have to, see what lands and what doesn't. For the record, even if you think he won 2 as well, that's still only 4 rounds. There's no way you can find 5 for Ngannou
@@NeilHawkins-zq7bm so hold on a sec, you want to credit the judges to reinforce your position that Ngannou won the 2nd round, but you're coming at me for agreeing with the judge that Fury won the fight? 😂
"because the judges score the fight based on real time."
Judges, like referees in football, make errors. I trust my "hawk eyes" and know what lands in real time, it doesn't mean I trust some old man's eyes sitting at ringside judging the fight. So when I tell you to watch it slowed down, it's to prove that I'm right. That's the benefit. Do you see a penalty appeal in football, and when your mate says "that wasn't a foul", you reply and said "well the ref gave it and I refuse to see the slow motion replay" ?
fury out landed Francis in 2 rounds from 10 with power shots. Just 2. And was knockdown down. But it was clear he won was it? Get got dropped twice. Got out punched with power. How you meant to win. By landed a few extra jabs. Lol. This isn’t amateur boxing where you score points. Fury got out struck. Beat up and knockdown down. Lost the ring generalship battle. The effective aggressions battle. Everything a judge scores for Francis was the boss.
Forgot the elbows. Where talking about the scoring on the official stats. Did fury’s face look like Francis was missing?
@@contradictionsniper8276 a power shot is anything other than a jab. It doesn't mean you landed with power. If Fury lands 5 solid jabs and one right hand, and Ngannou lands no jabs and 2 right hands, neither of which has an effect, who wins the round? What do you want to do, eradicate the jab? Ok then, write off the careers of Ali, Mayweather, Larry Holmes, Klitschko, and other great members.
Fury got dropped once, not twice. Other than that 3rd round he was buzzed in round 8. In no other round was Fury hurt. Both of those rounds justifiably belong to Ngannou, and so did round 7. That's it
In mma Ngannous freakish speed was one of his strengths. His power and granite chin the others
Tyson and John are embarrassing.
John more so, but I do agree mate.
How? They’re super, super awesome. Without the Fury’s heavyweight boxing is boring. He saved it twice by dethroning W. Klitschko and then came back against Wilder. He’s super cool.
And got embarrassed 🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂pair of frauds
@@GA001we’re talking about him not his accolades
@@WORLDWIDE1010Yeah, he’s super awesome. That’s why he’s such a super huge figure.
QUESTION to Simon and Spencer: Should boxing rules be changed so that if a fight goes the full distance the winner is the boxer who has floored the opponent the most times, rather than being decided on points?
That’s a stupid idea, don’t give up the day job
You provide an insult and no explanation. @@JD-re3cj
@@JD-re3cj how is that dumb idea. I would prefer that.
That's ridiculous lmao it would COMPLETELY change the dynamitic of how the sport works. Every bout would just wind up as a pub brawl.
Which could make it more exciting and ensures no unsatisfactory decisions like we got with the Ngannou fight. It would only come into effect if the fight goes the distance and one boxer has floored their opponent more times, otherwise it goes to the points decision as usual. The point of boxing should be to beat the opponent not to hold out to win on points.
People need to understand how scoring works. Fury won by a round or two you don't win by power punches or by damage done to your opponent's face you win by the cleaner punches landed and better footwork which Fury did better.
Ngannou boxes in the UFC, and he knows how to grapple, so Ngannou already knows how to fight professionally. It's not like he has never fought beforehand or he's just turned professional after only fighting in the amateurs. It is one of the best debuts in boxing history, but there is more to take into context like the fact that Ngannou has boxed before within MMA. Ngannou is also one of the hardest opponents to challenge in his debut fight.
I had it 96 - 94/95 to Fury it was close at times, and Ngannou did himself and MMA proud I'm not surprised how well Ngannou fought. He showed his ability in boxing with his very good performance. I really want to see Ngannou fight again in boxing.
Fury - 10 10 8 10 10 10 9 9 10 10 - 96
Ngannou - 9 9 10 9 9 9 10 10 9 10 - 94
I was a massive Fury fan but all respect was lost after his antics during and after Usyk negotiations earlier this year. The only slack I can give him is he is bipolar so subject to the kind of nonsense he puts out.
I reckon this could be make or break for him. He’s been shamed and embarrassed, and his reaction I reckon could be one of two polar opposites. For the sake of him and his family, I hope it’s the better one of the two.
Will still be rooting for Usyk though.
Same
And there's me thinking if fury doesn't stop ngannou in 4 it's going to be embarrassing 😂😂
Tyson only needs a warm-up with chizora and Dillon white then he will be ready to go 😂😂😂😂
Teddy Atlas even scored it 7-3 Fury Ngannou is a much tougher proposition than AJ Spencers boy. Ngannou had experience of fighting in a friggin cage!!!! He's a superhuman athlete. Tyson won it by a few points!! it's boxing scoring full stop!!!
Nothing Fury could do could hurt him he couldn’t hurt him or bully him or give him any issues as Fury usually uses his weight and height and reach he wasn’t able to cope in this case ..
Even the elbow to the head from fury didn’t phase him xx
I think everybody should go and rewatch the fight Francis Ngannou only won 3 rounds, 3rd and the 8th and maybe the 7th
fury out landed Francis in 2 rounds from 10 with power shots. Just 2. And was knockdown down. But it was clear he won was it? Get got dropped twice. Got out punched with power. How you meant to win. By landed a few extra jabs. Lol. This isn’t amateur boxing where you score points. Fury got out struck. Beat up and knockdown down. Lost the ring generalship battle. The effective aggressions battle. Everything a judge scores for Francis was the boss.
How did Francis lose the other rounds he landed the bigger shots? We don’t need to watch it. Just explain. I’d like to hear the mind of an idiot
Ngannou didn’t fight like other mma fighters he fought like a boxer plus he’s just as heavy as fury and he’s never even been wobbled in a fight . He took fury’s illegal elbow and don’t even blink . Ngannou is just tough asf and the better boxer he becomes the harder he gets to beat
Only my opinion but is there a worrying president being set in boxing (and other sports) that reasoned and considered criticism gets miss represented, by those it suits, as abuse or bullying.
Fair critique isn't unpleasant it's absolutely necessary and valid to provide context
Love the channel ❤
Fury had to fist bump Ngannou so he took it easy on him 😂😂
Punch stats prove Fury won, but it was close.
Fury should not be winning a fight with Ngannou on points....so he lost the fight.
Boxing is more than point stats fanboy
Explain how?
If it was the amateurs or the Olympics you'd be right, but professional boxing isn't scored like that, Nganou landed the better punches controlled the the pace of the fight, took centre of the ring and Tyson didn't look like he wanted to go anywhere near him. Nganou won but a draw could maybe be justified but the judge that had Tyson 4 rounds up needs sacking.
Which punch stats? Because the power shots show Ngannou landed more, also Fury only outlander Ngannou in FOUR rounds, Ngannou out landed Fury in the other six.
Also Ngannou scored a knockdown. No way Fury won.
Spencer Oliver "i'm with the 99%" Who says the 99% are the smartest? Ngannou won rounds 3 7,8 that its. The only thing that made it seem a good fight Wwas the knockdown and the fact that Ngannou did better than expected, on the night I had Ngannou winning, the next day with a coffee and judging eyes Fury wins 7 rounds to 3. it was an ugly win!
Francis dominated in MMA with punches, also he adapted his style to include grappling.
Round 1 : 10-9 for Fury
Round 2 : 10-9 for Fury
Round 3 : 8-10 for Nagganou
Round 4: 10-9 for Fury (close round)
Round 5: 10 -9 Fury
Round 6 10-9 Fury
Round 7. 9-10 Ngaanou
Round 8. 9-10 Ngannou
Round 9. 10- 9 Fury
Round 10. 10-9 Fury
UNANIMOUS DECISION for Fury 96-93.
Fury won 7 rounds
Ngannou won 3 rounds and scored 1 knockdown
Rounds 1, 2 and 4 could have gone either way, but agree with round 5 onwards.
Who thought we would be saying Fury was going to be needing points to beat Ngannou....just sick.
@@joeacloke No. Round 4 was close but Fury edged it. Ngannou did nothing in Round 1 and 2. They were Fury's rounds
Round one was a clear Fury round. Fury edged round 2. round 4 can go either way, I would slightly favour Fury. The man knows the game: he is elite at winning rounds … which helps him win fights when not at his best. Dont hate the player
@@user-uz5cp4pd9xThat’s the truth right there anyone can get dropped at HW Fury got dropped by a plumber he is known for out pointing every boxer he faces aweful performance from Fury he did too much feinting and missed some wild punches. Overcommitted and got clipped round the top of the ear. But after round 3-4 Fury was one pushing the pace throwing more and landing more shots on a patient Francis. Split decision seems fair
I just watched it back and I had it 96-93 to fury. I couldn’t give ngannou any more rounds
Fury fan boy
There is a lot of hate out there for Fury.He was the clear winner.
@@sirbaconbutties7071clear?😂
@@jacob_v1470 I gave Ungannu 3 rounds and beyond that he was a Zombie following Fury around with his hands up.
@@sirbaconbutties7071😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡
Great show.
Great post fight analysis with integrity, we need more of these kind of unbiased journalism
It's doesn't seem normal to read such a sensible post.
Gash, they’re jumping off their biased bandwagon now fury dumped them
Watch teddy atlas review and his score card, it was a legitimate win for fury - like it or not but Francis wasn’t robbed and he lost this exhibition fight! And yes let’s not diminish Francis’ achievement- he was extremely good
Teddy atlas is a fury stooge hardly a man worth anyones attention on the debate or fury.
It was not an exhibition
Stfu. It wasn’t an exhibition for 1.
And no2. Fury got out worked with the bigger and better shots. Fury only out landed Francis is 2 rounds from 10 with power shots. And got knocked down. So for fury to win he needs to win lots of rounds that he got punched more. 😅
@@contradictionsniper8276 I’ll direct your brilliantly articulated comments to Mr Teddy Atlas (who has the bare faced cheek to disagree with you). How many pints have you had today?
@@rossalexander2640 well what was it then? A non sanctioned freak show?
Here’s a FACT that almost every boxing pundit chooses to look past. And that is the illegal elbow thrown by the professional world champion boxer. If the mma fighter through the elbow then that’s all these people would be talking about.
Forget who won the fight. Ngannou is a man with a dream, probably a stronger dream than anyone here could imagine after being born into sheer poverty and working in a f***ing sand mine ffs as a kid... And a man with a dream can take on the world. Fury had a shocker of a night, the whole week in the interviews you could tell his head wasnt in it. But he clearly won the fight. Stats dont lie, opinions dont matter. Fury won the fight. Credit to both men.
Fury hype train over. Mcdermott beat him and Wallin should've won. How embarrassing was that performance in front of the real boxing legends 😂
mcdermott you have a shout but wallin no, how can you say he should of lost he won by like 8 rounds on the cards. you sound like a real bad hater it's funny using emotion over facts, there was never any hype train
Any other fighter the fight gets stopped with that cut. They had so much to lose.
what do you mean hype train over? he will retire undefeated undisputed HW champion... dont be such an obv hater
Those real boxing legends have multiple losses. Fury is still undefeated and can become undisputed in 4 months 😂
@@GhostonRUclips201x Fury fought McDermott for £6'000. The fight was close but Fury edged it. He then knocked out McDermott in the rematch
It was an event. It was entertainment, that's all it was. Fury was told what to do including the ridiculous humiliating ring walk degrading his family. One is a slave to the masters at a very very high cost. When is enough money enough 💰
Mike Tyson taught all this to Francis Ngannou... That PEEKABOO Hitting of the Angles Cus Style lol... slip outside of the opponent's shoulders, because that is where all the punches come from, you need to weave under the elbows as again, that is where the punches come from.. KEEP YOUR BACK STRAIGHT and BEND YOUR KNEES as you WEAVE side to side, don't lean forwards as you weave, because the opponent will put his weight on the back of your head and back to push and hold you down. Don't focus on your opponents head, as that is not the thing attacking you. Focus on the chest, when the chest Flexis, you Bob, duck... Cus would say. If you Lay in the middle, your head is a target, so Bob, duck... but don't just stay there, your supposed to be hitting, so straight away get to the sides, move left or right and get into that position where you can hit them and they can't hit you, from the side's they can't hit you, so hit them with everything you got, because they can't hurt you. From the side's you have a chance to put in three perfect punches, uppercut hook hook. After you hit, you don't want to just stand there, you need to immediately switch to the next position around the opponent or weave across to the opponents opposite side and hit again, keep the flow going, keep switching, Flanking the opponents sides where he has no defence or offence... you got to be smart, you got to be clever and not get hit, then your a fighter,,,, not getting hit is what the science of boxing is all about, confusing the enemy, taking him out his own comfort zone, making him slow... You got to learn to weather the storm with good head movement, your head is never where the opponent last seen it... Action is faster than reaction, so keep your head in constant motion, control the unpredictable storm coming at you... Footwork, it's all about the hip's lol, plus work off an upside down triangle chalked out on the floor would help you learn to flank the opponents sides, turning southpaw when moving in right side. Understanding how to easily and effortlessly close the distance down to getting to the sides, Stalking the opponent, pressure and smothering your opponents, making them cover up so you can take them unaware, moving very cleverly and effortless to the sides where you can hit them and they can't hit you... avoid, move in and bam bam bam... You need to keep a low centre of gravity, keep low to the ground so you can fire, hit upwards with great power and leverage.. plus from down there, you can see the punches coming. The lower you are, the less of a target you are. In this style, we don't travel straight down the middle of the pipe or in other words, Never Lay in the Middle... but instead instead only travel to the left or right outside angles where they can't hit us back. As they turn to face you, twist or spring.. keep outside of there shoulder, because that is where the power comes from. And when they prepare themselves to reset themselves to face you, hit them half way through there PREPARATION OF ATTACK.. halfway before completion to catch them by surprise. DON'T PULL STRAIGHT BACK, because the punches are still coming at you... if you lean backwards, you will get steamrolled, railroaded over... so instead move side to side, slipping, dipping, weaving punches and using TWIST's, SPRINGS's footwork to angle off/around to the sides of the opponents weak area's where you can hit him and he cannot hit you back. P.s,, Dip or Slip the straight punches coming at you, and weave under the hooks whilst trying to shoot forwards into that left or right outside angle,, flanking the opponents sides... DONT BE AFRAID TO GET TO THE SIDES !!!... There is only one destination you are to be heading in and that destination is OUTSIDE OF THE OPPONENTS SHOULDER and to make sure you STAY OUTSIDE of the opponents shoulder.. because as I may have stated above, the opponents shoulder is where his power comes from to hit you with... but if you are outside of his shoulder, then you are outside of his punching power, thus he has to reset his position to attack you. But as he is resetting his position to get you inside his power, inside his shoulder... you move again your own self, move again outside his shoulder and hit !!!. As stated above, Never Lay in the Middle.. because if you are on the centreline, then you are in the opponents firepower and will get your head taken off.. so the centre, the middle is a NO GO AREA, you never entre inside the centreline... thus again the only destination is Outside The Shoulder by going in a left or right direction after knocking on the front door with your Jab, flanking the opponents weak areas where you can hit them and they cannot hit you, that means GETTING TO THE SIDES !!!, after knocking on the front door with a Jab or a Jab and a follow up rear punch, doing something called MAKE THEM MISS, MAKE THEM PAY !!... what does that mean ? When you Jab, you want to move in behind that Jab... because your moving forwards to your destination... THE SIDES,,,, There is no pecking with the jab back and forth like normal boxers do, no retreating... No, instead when we leave for our destination, that point of getting to the sides where we can hit them and they cannot hit us... we have to press forwards, pressure forwards behind that jab, pushing forwards off our rear right foot as we knock on the front door,,, but when we follow that up with the right rear hook or straight punch to the head,,, we simultaneously slip left while moving diagonally forwards to the left side of the opponent and at the very same exact time GO THROUGH the opponent with your rear punch... Thus, should the opponent throw a punch at you as you throw that rear hand whilst moving in and getting to the left side,,,, as you left slip simultaneously as you hit... the opponent will miss you with his punch and get hit with your punch at the same time instead !.... Remember, Knock on the Front Door with your Jab, BUT ENTRE THROUGH THE SIDE DOORS !!!... there is nothing for you in the centre, so KEEP OUT !!!... Never Lay In The Middle !!!. Against taller opponents, using a SLIPJAB, a Jab that is thrown off a left or right angle from the sides, makes it much easier to reach and get past the opponents long reaching arms, with your Jab... You either slip left or right and throw the Jab whilst in a slip position before coming back to centre or moving in to take a flanking position, by getting to the sides and hitting. Willie Bag Numbers are 7 Lead Head Jab, 1 Lead Head Hook, 2 Rear Straight Head Punch, 3 Left Uppercut, 4 Right Uppercut, 5 Left Liver Body Hook, 6 Right Body Hook, Straight 6 is a Low Rear Straight Punch to the Body, 8 Lead Low Jab... then you have the 9, introduced around 2009 to avoid confusion... the 9 being a Rear Head Hook, formally also a 2 back in the old days. Remember, when hitting to the body or throwing uppercuts, bend your knees and get low first to fire that punch upwards with great leverage from a low center of gravity. This is the Enigma behind the science of Cus D'Amato... these are the fundamental principles behind the style of MIKE TYSON !!!. Kyle Sands :)
Love how Simon felt the need to try and kid us on that he was forced to watch it. 😂 Fury lost
Yea that was a lie
Talksport just hate fury😊
They've been rimming him for 3 years straight. A little bit of criticism and all of a sudden banned from all events. You reap what you sow
They have an agenda against Fury and Frank Warren.
Dont forget, Fury cheated with the elbow!
Fury’s a good boxer in a poor era for HW boxing. His sudden ‘superstar’ status has been built off 3 fights against ‘Wilder’ who’s utterly shite & fought no one.
All this noise about Fury having an ‘off night’ is complete nonsense, that was Fury at his best. He just got exposed by a boxer he couldn’t bully.
How did he win that fight? Because he got a knockdown and won the 8th round?
@@NeilHawkins-zq7bmFury elbowed illegally
fury out landed Francis in 2 rounds from 10 with power shots. Just 2. And was knockdown down. But it was clear he won was it? Get got dropped twice. Got out punched with power. How you meant to win. By landed a few extra jabs. Lol. This isn’t amateur boxing where you score points. Fury got out struck. Beat up and knockdown down. Lost the ring generalship battle. The effective aggressions battle. Everything a judge scores for Francis was the boss.
Clearly neither can score a fight and Spencer saying 99% of the boxing fraternity thought Francis won is ridiculous. A majority id say have stated Fury won . Teddy atlas broke the whole fight down round by round and scored it 7-3 to Fury.
fury out landed Francis in 2 rounds from 10 with power shots. Just 2. And was knockdown down. But it was clear he won was it? Get got dropped twice. Got out punched with power. How you meant to win. By landed a few extra jabs. Lol. This isn’t amateur boxing where you score points. Fury got out struck. Beat up and knockdown down. Lost the ring generalship battle. The effective aggressions battle. Everything a judge scores for Francis was the boss.
These are the same guys that thought joshua was doing well "outboxing Usyk". They should call this show clown TV
It was a box office bomb as well, Tyson is a bum!
Simon I think your spot on m8t it’s really good to listen to some one who speaks the truth and isn’t afraid to do so your a credit m8t I listened to the Carl froch interview and he said exactly the same as yourself it’s really a breath of fresh to have presenters that aren’t afraid to say it as it is 👌👌Tyson fury has marked the sport of boxing now have you noticed they have the same 2 reporters in their camp blowing smoke up their arses…..I still think this so called crossover boxing has ruined the sport of boxing now there’s talk of Roy jones senior getting it on with Tommy fury lol…it’s just a joke it’s all about money now …shame ….
Who are the reporters? Assume Gareth Davies is one of them? ****ing toad.
Carl Froch also thought Josh Taylor beat Jack Catterall....the man's a moron....
Carl frampton had francis 5 rounds up in the middle of round 4. The whole thing was a joke i had francis winning 3 rounds and futy out pointed him in more rounds. People just don't know boxing if you say francis was robbed.
Carl was absolutely deluded me and my mate was laughing like hell at his score card
Carl Frampton is a fool then
Name the 7 rounds Fury won please.
I did think Francis would tire in the latter rounds and fury would win comfortably on points but as a UFC fan I told everyone I knew if anyone could do it it's Francis his mentality is unreal and if you know his life story the guy is unbelievable and he should have won but he's still the winner
Disagree I had it 4-4 going in to the last 2 rounds & I had Fury Winning by 1 or 2 rounds Bad night for Tyson & I watched it 3 times myself with no sound sending love from Sheffield!
Sheffield Wednesday chairman Sell up now
Fury won
I totally believed Tyson under trained for this fight and almost got caught out, Probably with lack of sparring leading to sharpness in ring etc
Everyone has bad days, everyone has off days, fury got the decision, that fight happens again fury would come out well on top
I've watched it 3 times as well jug ears and fury won by 2 rounds
Fury's list of massive fights just got longer.
Im gobsmacked spencer provided some actual boxing analysis