Thanks. Whenever I film these things I'm always wondering if I'm talking too much about the spec details and not enough about how it is to ride. Glad you liked it.
@@nb4821 I dont think these bikes are meant to be pampered. If you're not trying to take these bikes to its limit and testing its threshold then I see no point in taking these bikes to the track. The track is the only place the bike will come alive and be in it's natural environment. People need to remember, these 1000cc+ supersport bikes have no place on the roads, you will never feel it's TRUE nature until its released on a closed controlled environment without all the unpredictable elements that the roads will throw at you. If I'm going to watch a review on a 1000cc bike, I'm expecting to see/hear a review coming from someone who is wringing its neck to its max, bc if these guys are telling you these are great bikes, for us regular folks who go to the track once in a while but do a majority of street riding, then that means these bikes can handle and outride us any day.
Whoa, that's big praise. Thanks so much. Adam is a buddy of mine and he's great at what he does. There are a few other guys who do it well also. Rennie Scaysbrook at Cycle News, and of course there's Zack and Ari.
@@TroySiahaan you and adam never disappoint. It's a breath of fresh air watching your videos! Same old tired bs everywhere but man you guys deliver some of the most aggressive rides, I love it!
Versatility of R1M comfort (via Twin Tube shock/forks - no pressure spikes c.f. monotube) on the street may be valued by some with fat wallets. BTW does the R1 2022/3 Kayabas also use twin tube technology?
If the carbon fiber doesn't really do anything substantial to lighten up the bike then it's kind of pointless, although looks very cool. Sports cars can justify carbon fiber but on a bike it just adds significant cost for not much benefit.
All goes into personal style of riding and preference honestly both great bikes I favor the ride of the Honda but the style of the R1 so that really depends on you
@@MuttzbikeRR Ultimately I stayed within the Aprilia family. I had an anomaly…..after some modifications to my bike by my local shop (when living in Mexico City) I discovered they cut almost all wires to install a hand at riser on my Tuono and simply tied them together and wrapped with electrical tape. Mexico City is at high elevation and when I went up in the mountain it would always stall. Or it could have been the low pressure that built up in the fuel tank due to a blockage in a vent hose causing the ECU to sense something was off in the fuel/air mixture…emergency engine light would come on and shut bike down…..every time above 11k foot elevation. Bizarre. Still riding my other old older 2010 Tuono V2…battle axe with no issues!
@@ApriliaRacer14 heard about the same issue (kinda) here in Israel, when rsv4 riders rides in the canyons below sea levels near Jericho, which is the lowest city in the world, the experienced check engine lights are alarm urgent service alert, i love my aprilia but those small error lights or other ecu minor errors just disappoints you... let's not forget about the maintenance costs
Hey I iam thinking about getting a 2020 or a 2019. Can you please elaborate on why would u rather take the 2019 model instead. I mean is it price wise or performance ? I'll appreciate you input . Thanks
@@Fishingboys2-w1d because they had to comply to new regulations. I would Highly consider buying and older model as well because you will get a much better price with little difference.
@3:11 the rider started down shifting, but he didn't use the clutch lever.. is this a possible thing with big bikes? I have been riding for 13yrs but haven't ridden big bikes.. mostly 180cc scooters and underbones.. thanks!
@@MrDes1979 hi thanks for responding. what about if you're on a big bike and then you are just cruising along let's say on your way to work would that still be an applicable way of shifting?
Australianong Hilaw for these kind of bikes they have quickshifter up/down (Honda,Ducati,Ktm,...) and you can buy quickshifter also if your bike didn’t have one But you can only get the UP SHIFT only. For DOWN SHIFT you need the bike that have throttle by wires like these kind of leader bike with a bigger CC bike.
Wow, soon the bikes will have so much electronic input that they can ride themselves. We can all just buy expensive designer boots, helmets and leathers and never be in any danger at all. How cool.
Great review and description of the cross plane engine power delivery as being softer delivery (not everyone would be game enough to describe it that way but it’s true ) and the connection and feel between throttle and rear wheel.... I am going back to a cross plane in the form of a used 2020 R1M , from a 2019 S1000RR Sport that did everything so well , just because of the sublime (and friendly) engine ....and don’t they love being in high end of the tacho.
Hi Troy, I really like the new R1 but how good of a street bike would you say it would be? I would say it would be 80% street, 20% track. Would it be too much of a torture rack for the street? Thanks
I've got a 2018 and I only use it on the weekends, it loves being leaned over but soon as am on the highway I wish I was on something comfier, ok for light commuting that's about it.
Just set your suspension for the job at hand, you don't get one bike that is great at everything, you can set it up to suit the ride and rider but if you want a track bike go for something designed with that in mind if you want a commuting bike then get something sorted for that else you must compromise somewhere but I've been riding for 13 years and setting a sports bike up for comfort is not hard then track day settings and you good to go, it's really simple but these days people don't put in the time to learn these things they just want to get on and have everything perfect
I want the r1m so bad lol See you at the track when I get there brotha. I'd love to practice moto gp with my lady. Couples moto gp should definitely be a sport :P errrrrggggggg... the langsh by angelo the angelino :)
@@TroySiahaan I'm buying the all black 2020 R1 this year, so to get rid of all the cats I need a full system exhaust or 3/4? Also I think they redid the intake so no air flopper mid needed?
Ill take the Aprilia RSV4 Factory with 217hp 90T and its 390lbs dry compared to 450 wet on the R1M. WOOF. Did i mention the Aprilia is 25499 which is a smidge cheaper than the Yami.
Your underwhelming depiction of the ferocity of this bike baffles me. I just bought a 2021 R-1 and I strongly disagree. .Granted, the last bike I owned was a 2006 R-1, and technology has come a very long way...to dismiss what the R-1 brings to to the table, is disingenuous. This bike is a fucking rocket. I'm still in my break in period, and this bike is insane. The low end grunt is orgasmic. The high end is just silly.
cableless throttle is not good, even vehicles now have problems with them breaking, everything else is good, the throttle cable lost me from buying one
So the changes in the cylinder head make it rev higher but decrease power. That is lame Also the cable-less throttle body is pretty lame too. That means from the factory, it will always scale back throttle input in mid range for better emissions most likely. It does help with traction control but nothing compares to a cable throttle body, nothing.
Even with the cable it is ride by wire so the throttle input is scaled back in the ECU ETV (Electronic Throttle Valve) maps anyway. Even more so on the US model.
I love the sound of an R1 but the motorcycle is just useless on the road. Then if you want to have that motor but be comfortable the MT10 is just extremely ugly. I don’t get why manufacturers can make a track and road version of their sport bikes.
Too bad no one mentioned the GSXR,,and I'm positive if they featured Kevin Schwantz's commentary on that machine it never would be construed as kinda gay..
To me it's amazing that Yamaha can still make such a great performing in spite of these regulations. While I do agree that the Euro 4 and 5 laws that Yamaha has done this to comply to are too strict, and the end of the day, we have a wonderfully performaning bike that emits less.
Thanks for pointing out where the pressurized cartridge went, I was wondering. I don't think any other reviews gave that much detail.
You're welcome. Is this the kind of detail you'd like to see in future videos?
Great review. I loved the spec teardown and 2019 comparison
Thanks. Whenever I film these things I'm always wondering if I'm talking too much about the spec details and not enough about how it is to ride. Glad you liked it.
Troy and Adam Waheed are the best moto journalists to date. They can ride hard af with ease and write and talk one hell of a detailed review.
But feels like Adam abuses every single bike like some crook psycho man.
@@nb4821 I dont think these bikes are meant to be pampered. If you're not trying to take these bikes to its limit and testing its threshold then I see no point in taking these bikes to the track. The track is the only place the bike will come alive and be in it's natural environment. People need to remember, these 1000cc+ supersport bikes have no place on the roads, you will never feel it's TRUE nature until its released on a closed controlled environment without all the unpredictable elements that the roads will throw at you. If I'm going to watch a review on a 1000cc bike, I'm expecting to see/hear a review coming from someone who is wringing its neck to its max, bc if these guys are telling you these are great bikes, for us regular folks who go to the track once in a while but do a majority of street riding, then that means these bikes can handle and outride us any day.
@@nb4821 Because he does! Hahahaha. I love that guy.
Whoa, that's big praise. Thanks so much. Adam is a buddy of mine and he's great at what he does. There are a few other guys who do it well also. Rennie Scaysbrook at Cycle News, and of course there's Zack and Ari.
@@TroySiahaan you and adam never disappoint. It's a breath of fresh air watching your videos! Same old tired bs everywhere but man you guys deliver some of the most aggressive rides, I love it!
currently torn between the two, this was a pretty useful breakdown of the differences between them
The riding starts at 08:02. Thank me later.
Thanks
You don't want to know anything about the bike?
no thanks
lol
I'm guessing you take your bike to the shop for oil changes 😂
I own a BMWs but that R1 is just sexy as hell. Love the front end.
How is that new BMW. S1000RR m come with carbon wheels and only 20k?
@TheAngryMaverick Dont talk to your mom that way fool,,
All that work from Yamaha for me to remove the cat, put an aftermarket exhaust on and tune it >:) Euro spec can kiss my butt.
Jokes on you, good luck- Yamaha
@@ryanlawson6565 Luck has nothing to do with it.
You cant tune it yet. Good luck and jokes still on you!
@@ryanlawson6565 Im a computer programmer and mechanic, if it can be tuned, ill figure it out. Wish me luck bro.
@@dragonlee1000 good luck man. If you end up coding it yourself, make sure to drop the tune to be downloaded
Versatility of R1M comfort (via Twin Tube shock/forks - no pressure spikes c.f. monotube) on the street may be valued by some with fat wallets. BTW does the R1 2022/3 Kayabas also use twin tube technology?
If the carbon fiber doesn't really do anything substantial to lighten up the bike then it's kind of pointless, although looks very cool. Sports cars can justify carbon fiber but on a bike it just adds significant cost for not much benefit.
R1m uses a deltabox frame which is heavier than the R1's diamond frame..so they used carbon fibre to make it lighter.
@@sd_forrest Cap. Both are built with the Deltabox frame. 😅
Great report. You covered everything! Very clear.
Thanks! Whenever I film these things I never know if I'm covering enough or not. I thought for this one I'd go down the list of changes Yamaha made.
Yamaha did r1 pretty Good... i Hope they do M1 too...
Exactly !! I agree with you .
Would you mind give me some videos comparison between R1 2019 vs 2020 in one frame.
Why does yamaha gets smokes by cbr1000rr ... plz answer...
Runs out top end
@@dansmith3933 means??? Which is better...???
All goes into personal style of riding and preference honestly both great bikes I favor the ride of the Honda but the style of the R1 so that really depends on you
@@dansmith3933 which is best for overall performance .. ?? And
Troy Siahaan, are you Indonesian? R1M always be the best design, can't refute. Best livery (Grey, 2015) for me
Helped me to decide to stay with Aprilia. Just hope my next Ape does not have ECU issues like last.
I'm actually watching this to decide whether i switch from my Rsv4 to this
@@MuttzbikeRR Ultimately I stayed within the Aprilia family. I had an anomaly…..after some modifications to my bike by my local shop (when living in Mexico City) I discovered they cut almost all wires to install a hand at riser on my Tuono and simply tied them together and wrapped with electrical tape. Mexico City is at high elevation and when I went up in the mountain it would always stall. Or it could have been the low pressure that built up in the fuel tank due to a blockage in a vent hose causing the ECU to sense something was off in the fuel/air mixture…emergency engine light would come on and shut bike down…..every time above 11k foot elevation. Bizarre. Still riding my other old older 2010 Tuono V2…battle axe with no issues!
@@ApriliaRacer14 heard about the same issue (kinda) here in Israel, when rsv4 riders rides in the canyons below sea levels near Jericho, which is the lowest city in the world, the experienced check engine lights are alarm urgent service alert, i love my aprilia but those small error lights or other ecu minor errors just disappoints you... let's not forget about the maintenance costs
Wonderful Review. A complete pocket Encyclopedia about the R1 & R1M.
No power upgrades ? Just little tweaks here and there
👏🏻👏🏻
If I have this bike it will run 200km every week I hope that is not an issue with this kind of bike
Il take one 2019 R1 please.
Hey I iam thinking about getting a 2020 or a 2019. Can you please elaborate on why would u rather take the 2019 model instead. I mean is it price wise or performance ? I'll appreciate you input . Thanks
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@@Fishingboys2-w1d because they had to comply to new regulations. I would Highly consider buying and older model as well because you will get a much better price with little difference.
Why 2020 has a better engine and top end is done proper, dont be a idiot lmfao
@3:11 the rider started down shifting, but he didn't use the clutch lever.. is this a possible thing with big bikes? I have been riding for 13yrs but haven't ridden big bikes.. mostly 180cc scooters and underbones.. thanks!
yes with the quick shift you can
@@MrDes1979 hi thanks for responding. what about if you're on a big bike and then you are just cruising along let's say on your way to work would that still be an applicable way of shifting?
Australianong Hilaw it’s call quick shifter you can shift up/down with out clutch in and you can shift up/down at any speed you want.
@tankk is it an add on or stock for these kinds of bikes? 🤔
Australianong Hilaw for these kind of bikes they have quickshifter up/down (Honda,Ducati,Ktm,...) and you can buy quickshifter also if your bike didn’t have one
But you can only get the UP SHIFT only. For DOWN SHIFT you need the bike that have throttle by wires like these kind of leader bike with a bigger CC bike.
Wow, soon the bikes will have so much electronic input that they can ride themselves. We can all just buy expensive designer boots, helmets and leathers and never be in any danger at all. How cool.
They can ride themselves.
ruclips.net/video/VH60-R8MOKo/видео.html
r1too lol that took a twist
want to ask, YAMAHA R1 AND R1M, which speed?
The problem both have the same speed, 299
plus the price and very high from one to the other, why?
I have R1m 2019 it's the best.
Will there be a 2022 R1
That R1M is like a dream bike.. I'm torn between that and the 2020 CBR1000 Fireblade.
CB R RR breaking connection rods ! Honda stoped ALL sales
Finally, the headlights are updated!
Great review and description of the cross plane engine power delivery as being softer delivery (not everyone would be game enough to describe it that way but it’s true ) and the connection and feel between throttle and rear wheel.... I am going back to a cross plane in the form of a used 2020 R1M , from a 2019 S1000RR Sport that did everything so well , just because of the sublime (and friendly) engine ....and don’t they love being in high end of the tacho.
Hi my brother Troy siahaan. Are you batak from Indonesia.
What is the top speed of Yamaha R1M ?
299kmph same as r1, all liter bikes are electronically restricted due to regulations.
@@agentofenhanced2428 HaHa the Italians did not get that memo
Do both r1 and r1m come with same brakes
R1M is the all carbon version with the bike setting apps on ya phone. I think it’s the same all around just lighter and rarer
Ohleens? What happened to ohlins?
the tank was beautiful. why would they change that !!
I am very impressed with the new 2020 Yamaha R1 and R1M models.
Hi Troy, I really like the new R1 but how good of a street bike would you say it would be? I would say it would be 80% street, 20% track. Would it be too much of a torture rack for the street? Thanks
I've got a 2018 and I only use it on the weekends, it loves being leaned over but soon as am on the highway I wish I was on something comfier, ok for light commuting that's about it.
its 100% for track, owners who rides it on streets are just proud owners with egos
Just set your suspension for the job at hand, you don't get one bike that is great at everything, you can set it up to suit the ride and rider but if you want a track bike go for something designed with that in mind if you want a commuting bike then get something sorted for that else you must compromise somewhere but I've been riding for 13 years and setting a sports bike up for comfort is not hard then track day settings and you good to go, it's really simple but these days people don't put in the time to learn these things they just want to get on and have everything perfect
Personally, if you want an R1 for the street, get the MT-10. Unless you enjoy torture racks.
Troy Siahaan although I like the looks and sound of the R1M I don’t really want to ride around on a torture rack. Perhaps the Tuono is in my future.
Still comes with the rubber break lines.
Alejandro Gonzales just on the rear.
@@jsin22366322 ok. Better than not, I guess
Fabulous in-depth review, Thank you.
Looks great but i think new cbr 1000 rrr will be be faster and more raw feeling to ride.
I want the r1m so bad lol See you at the track when I get there brotha. I'd love to practice moto gp with my lady. Couples moto gp should definitely be a sport :P errrrrggggggg... the langsh by angelo the angelino :)
bike lover: nice r6
Owners of the new r1: *start up the engine** it ain't an r6
Bike lover: wait...............
Also the bike lover: *:0*
Sounds like you prefer this over the new S1000RR
You are correct. Lol. However, I have yet to try a re-flashed S1000RR.
Troy Siahaan reflashed r1 would be good too
@@TroySiahaan I'm buying the all black 2020 R1 this year, so to get rid of all the cats I need a full system exhaust or 3/4? Also I think they redid the intake so no air flopper mid needed?
Is it "her-ez" or "her-Ef"?
Siahaan ? Orang indo kah ..
Yep. Dan dia Yamaha fanboy
Ill take the Aprilia RSV4 Factory with 217hp 90T and its 390lbs dry compared to 450 wet on the R1M. WOOF. Did i mention the Aprilia is 25499 which is a smidge cheaper than the Yami.
Bagak do attong R1M i lae
Troy siahaan are you indonesian?
give me all that stuff with '08 styling
09:33
the third rider:Oh shit ! shit ! shiiiiiit !!!!!!!!!
These stupid exhaust laws on motorcycles will eventually kill gas powered bikes.
That's the point, and bring in the all electric bike.
@@SharathAnandK and that sucks
@@SharathAnandK I'll never adapt!
@@SharathAnandK yet they don't do anything about jets and ships which contribute more co2 than cars and motorcycles combined
Your underwhelming depiction of the ferocity of this bike baffles me. I just bought a 2021 R-1 and I strongly disagree. .Granted, the last bike I owned was a 2006 R-1, and technology has come a very long way...to dismiss what the R-1 brings to to the table, is disingenuous. This bike is a fucking rocket. I'm still in my break in period, and this bike is insane. The low end grunt is orgasmic. The high end is just silly.
Hei lae, ko disini rupanya
Yamaha : change colours
“Introducing new r1”
More like took out colors. It’s still blue, but that solid blue front bothers me. It just looks too plain.
RiderZero agree!
@@RiderZer0 Well that's why you get the carbon M. That's much more interesting. hah
2020 WSBK will be a battle between 3 constructors:
New Honda Fireblade
Ducati V4R
Kawasawki ZX10RR
Yamaha?? Press F to Continue.😆
The 2020 r1 looks kinda r6 to me thats why i like the 2019 looks more
cableless throttle is not good, even vehicles now have problems with them breaking, everything else is good, the throttle cable lost me from buying one
Troy Siahaan ni orang batak kah?
My country still haven't got any single new gen since 2015 . Come on , Yamaha . Why you left us out like that ! Don't make us hate you because of it .
So the changes in the cylinder head make it rev higher but decrease power. That is lame
Also the cable-less throttle body is pretty lame too. That means from the factory, it will always scale back throttle input in mid range for better emissions most likely. It does help with traction control but nothing compares to a cable throttle body, nothing.
I'm sure you can easily just flash the ECU to get a better throttle response.
It was already RBW before, just that the sensor was at the end of the cable. Now the sensor is at the throttle. So it didn't change anything really.
Even with the cable it is ride by wire so the throttle input is scaled back in the ECU ETV (Electronic Throttle Valve) maps anyway. Even more so on the US model.
@@kornboy22all liter bikes will need exhaust plus flash for 2020+ stupid euro5 rules
For those who doesn't understand all those explanations what he just meant is that the 2019 is better
And M has better suspension than the other. And nothing else.
Lastly Go for honda and be happy.
I love it😍😍😍😍
Y yamaha is not prefer brembo break keeds
Hey troy, are you indonesian? Siahaan is an Indonesian name
Yes!
@@TroySiahaan mantap! Saya suka review kamu, coba collab sama reviewer dari Indonesia, pasti bagus!
@@herdyantrikuncoro8703 Aku sangat ingin! Tetapi saya berbicara sedikit bahasa Indonesia
@@TroySiahaan don't worry, many Indonesian people know English too...
Yes I read your name many time, 😀😀😀 trully from Medan..
I love the R1M
458lbs that’s chunky for all that technology Yamaha
excellent video
Pass, just a euro 5 warmover.
Under the skin an awsome bike but they've completely lost there way since the 1998 model
The r1 has become too big and bulky
Are you just tuning in?
you dont know what youre talking about and probly never owned one. it feels like a 600.
@@WhyDidYTstartThisHandleShit
U sound just like a millennial squid
Im done here !!!
I love the sound of an R1 but the motorcycle is just useless on the road. Then if you want to have that motor but be comfortable the MT10 is just extremely ugly. I don’t get why manufacturers can make a track and road version of their sport bikes.
I agree. I completely adore the Crossplane 4 Engine but the R1 is useless in real world and the MT10 is so ugly, they really should make a XSR1000.
I wish they'd bring back the 970cc yamaha 2 stroke twin R1.
When was this made??....from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠
2020 fireblade takes the 👑
RIDE BY WIRE?! Oh hell no, I'm out!
Still a bad street bike huh?
A lot of what makes this thing so good on the track, is also what makes it bad on the street
@@AE86FTS I see what you mean. Thanks
@@hfr8343 You are welcome
Try out a Yamaha Mt-10, an R-1 engine made for the street.
@@BamfIamone I think I might just keep my zx6r and get a speed triple. The MT10 is just not a good looking bike to me
🔥🔥🔥
Too bad no one mentioned the GSXR,,and I'm positive if they featured Kevin Schwantz's commentary on that machine it never would be construed as kinda gay..
R1😍😍😍😍😍😍
Herezzz🤺
It’s about time they make these keyless also... but they should have bumped the cc for the street. Leave the m a race spec.
my dream bike...but..
Indonesian people 😍 Siahaan
Such a shame they have stuck with the shit headlights.
orang batak ya bro
Best Japanese superbike on the planet. Love the crossplane engine!
Nobody can beat honda
@@nb4821 😂 The CBR is being beat all the time and is outdated. All the 3 other Japanese manufacturers are above them in their superbike offerings.
Bagusan cbrr 1000 2020
I miss the duke
Ktm duke??😅🤣🤣 He is old now. Enjoying his retired life😷
Good gravy, man. Plain, fact intensive commentary needntt be labored and dry.. Polish up those delivery skills, please.
6:04....
Horas! wae lah
Did he say a leader bike? Lol
Let me gues our parent from indonesia? That true? You awsome👍
나랑 같은 헬멧이네
Orang indo batak ni siahaan
Troy Siahan, kaya orang Indonesia dah ( Batak)
2020 r1 is ugly ...
言葉は分からんが言いたいことは分かる気がする。
Booooorrrrring
Jesus Christ dude...we don't need that much technical info...just tell us how it is to ride.
Just ride the damn thing... Damn!!!
Tolong pakai bahasa indonesia dong bang😅
👎👎👎
Liberal moto laws = 👎
Don't forget to vote.
To me it's amazing that Yamaha can still make such a great performing in spite of these regulations. While I do agree that the Euro 4 and 5 laws that Yamaha has done this to comply to are too strict, and the end of the day, we have a wonderfully performaning bike that emits less.
Honda semakin didepan Yamaha semakin dibelakang..👎👎
great video