Yes correct, but also not to mention this is not an actual world super bike exhuast at all not even close, the wsbk akra has cast titanium bolt on individual oval manifolds for the headers to attach to. Also not to mention the wsbk exhaust is a completely different routing and must also have installed the special deeper oil pan that moves the pan to the right side of the motor and headers to the left this exhaust in the video is the super stock class exhaust bikes that essentially have stock engines for the most part, thinner head gaskets and a bunch of little tips and tricks to get the most out of them while staying inside the rules, but this is a super stock setup not WSBK
It needs a complete engine blueprint in order to take advantage of the large super bike exhaust and he also needs the WSBK H2O radiator and oil cooler because if you’re going to tumble down the rabbit hole of adding RS parts to your bike, you need to do all of it or not at all
Then you see toprak at mugello training with a r1m stock 8seg slower than the sbk one .. skills and practice makes more difference than expending Xs amount of money in accessories 😊.
Rider skill would be more of a deciding factor in a race between an R1 vs. R1M around a track. How many people are even skilled enough to extract the tiny bit of performance out of the R1M over the standard R1? A pro rider on a R6 would keep up with an average rider on an R1M. The difference between the two is negligible. I'd say you're better off buying the base R1 and modifying it with the extra money you saved over the R1M.
The cams would be worth it with either exhaust really well done sir this is actually my dream bike was planning on buying one this year but my wife got diagnosed with cancer 2 days before Mother’s Day and the money for my dream bike went to my wife no question worth it I figure out a way to get my dream bike but she is more important never even hesitated where the money needed to go my wife and kids is exactly where it need to go even though we talked about me saving money for the bike and I found one then we went to her appointment and things changed. Awesome vids as always thank you for sharing 👊🏻🤙🏼
Motomillions had an R1M and R1 with the same Akro WSBK SS Spec Exhaust and got 198HP on both on the dyno. Only difference is had sprint air filters and WSBK Velocity stacks. At least the two were consistent with same mods.
The fact that chris Moore's most insane bikes and fastest lap times are all Suzuki is enough to make anyone respect that how much boost and butchering Suzuki can handle.
There is a RUclips video on an R1 race bike and changing the head on it from what the team manager said gains a tremendous amount of horsepower so I can see that exhaust been better given its diameter
It is a great looking bike but the v4 is not tall person friendly like the other person said on top of the heat factor that bounces off that bike and the maintenance will kill you but it is nice looking I just like more well rounded bike and I’ll talk the other pluses from the r1 m and lose a little of the looks to the v4
You pretty much summed it up Chris, this pipe is designed to flow 230+ horsepower. Which you just can’t reach without major engine work or a turbo.. is it worth the money ? - for the road No but you are paying for the R+D that went into producing it, against the limited numbers they’ll produce.. Maybe you should get some super aggressive cams for drag racing and see if your pipe holds it back..!!
Still be interesting to see how much flow it can handle before it becomes “ the restriction” and the bigger headers become an advantage, WSB motors spend the bulk of their life flat out - so maybe the extra flow helps where’as on the road you need a bit of midrange to make it rideable, hence the compromise, then again when you produce an engine putting out 200+ HP but then have to electronically limit it to stop it looping itself into the scenery - how much power do you really need on the road…( TYRES ARE GETTING VERY EXPENSIVE..!!! ) .😂
@@ianmurray3820 diameter of headers ,mide pipe,and silencer is designen for optimal flux (gas volume at diferents speeds of flux, flux waves and linear speeds on every conduct and control the exhaust back presure... obviously more diámetro tubos is better for big and high speeds fluxes ...
It’s a great looking bike coming from a guy who doesn’t own one. I must admit I like 650ibs M 1000 with all the carbon fiber. Not even a BMW fan but he’s got me wanting that fine machine over everything else.
As I watched tons of videos. I truly believe, having you blue up my exhaust. Honestly, I think if anyone who gets an exhaust SHOULD go to a tuner for that. The outcome turns out way better that way. Chris, may God truly bless your abilities to work on bikes. You Sir, are the myth. The legend. The Bike Whisperer. Keep doing what you do. Amen.
Hard to judge. I seen these make 198 with motomillion although feel that dyno is a tad generous. Need stacks and cams to gain the most from it. In think they run around 220 with kit ecu here in BSB but still if u can afford it why not.
Great video! Only worth it to up and coming and professional racers! However, every person is free to make their own decisions. These were my opinions! Thanks Chris!
Awesome! Another dyno vid. You should remove all the drag racing clips from your intro and insert dyno pulls. Lol. Still love the channel but I'll be back when there's some track action.
Yeah, you should quit your job and start going to the track more too lol. I'm sure he would probably rather be at the track most of the time too but got to take care of business first.
I have the GYTR Pro Shop near me. They also run the Yamaha World Superbike team, Crescent Yamaha. We see Toprak there quite often, he’s a friendly guy to chat too.
Moto-million must have gotten back to him about that exhaust... Manny from moto million, im still waiting to hear from you guys about that superbike akro exhaust..
Because that’s the stock oil cooler for streetbike!!! it’s not meant for that exhaust!!!! The teams in WSBK and BSB are running an oversize radiator /oil cooler by H2O. You cant go adding RS parts to a streetbike unless you plan to do all of it. Its all or none, no in between. That exhaust is going to bake the oil and decrease HP
@@ricktaylor3748 I really doubt you would be able to do that! Have you not seen an R1 in person stripped of its bodywork? The ONLY possible thing you could do besides buying the proper RS radiator/oil cooler is to fabricate 2 small aluminum brackets to mount the oil cooler about a half inch to inch away from the headers...BUT then you will have the problem of the stock bodywork not fitting properly and have to trim it with a Dremel or something or just mount race track bodywork
@@USAracing I worked at a Kawasaki \ Suzuki dealership for 14 year. Yamaha is one of the poorest. designed bikes on the market, they''re extremely hard to work on. That's why there's not many professional Yamaha drag racing teams.
I need you to Flash my 2020 R1M, Im in California so we only have 91puss gas can you still flash my ecu? All i have is a 2bros cat delete slipon and a BMC filter Thx!
Making sure not to touch it with your hands, thats a major thing, even if you think your hands are perfectly clean the oils from your skin will cause it to do goofy stuff. Other than that he just runs it on the dyno until it does it. Most people dont have that luxury and ride them, thus getting other crud, bug guts and what not along the way that help mess the coloring up.
Noooo! It's not worth having golden windows in a mud hut. Having other GYTR accessories to complement the exhaust would make so much sense of that price difference.
sounds like yamaha is ripping their customers off, nice bike but not double. with that exhaust maybe head porting with cams would net you 200-205. I think i would heat shield the oil cooler or move it
How do you figure? They never claim the bike has more power . It does exactly what they claim which is the semi active ohlins fork and shock and. Carbon fiber body. They charge around 8-9k which is fair when you look at what carbon fiber bodywork costs as well as the suspension. It’s not a deal, but it’s far from double and you are paying for what you get . If it’s worth it , it’s worth it .
@@MrWolf2212 honestly still looks good if anything i think the new zx10 looks like shit to me With how the new gen bike looks I prefer the 16-19 version
2015 R1 in the UK is £10k- £11k 2015 R1M is £11k- £12k ( Source- Autotrader) unless theres is £1000's in difference of servicing, id go for an R1M for the looks
I think the face lifted R1's (2022+) have a different intake system or something. They seem to make more power once tuned. You can check Chris's other videos and see it.
Anyone spending this kind of $$$ on exhaust or 30k for a bike seriously needs their head examined. I have owned an R1 & traded for a older k3 Gsx R750 w/standard free flowing full Yoshi exh. & I guarantee I’m having more fun & satisfying wins & rides on the streets of Tx than anyone else!doesn’t take much money to do so.✌🏼
Definitely one of the best-looking bikes. Would love to see what the gytr cams would do.
That exhaust is awesome but it really needs cams in order to take advantage of the pipe size. The WSBK bikes have a lot of motor work in them.
Yes correct, but also not to mention this is not an actual world super bike exhuast at all not even close, the wsbk akra has cast titanium bolt on individual oval manifolds for the headers to attach to. Also not to mention the wsbk exhaust is a completely different routing and must also have installed the special deeper oil pan that moves the pan to the right side of the motor and headers to the left this exhaust in the video is the super stock class exhaust bikes that essentially have stock engines for the most part, thinner head gaskets and a bunch of little tips and tricks to get the most out of them while staying inside the rules, but this is a super stock setup not WSBK
It needs a complete engine blueprint in order to take advantage of the large super bike exhaust and he also needs the WSBK H2O radiator and oil cooler because if you’re going to tumble down the rabbit hole of adding RS parts to your bike, you need to do all of it or not at all
Yep correct big time.
R1's always make the best looking liter class bikes!
Yessir
No sir !GATE13SW6CREW cfc
Moore Mafia is the only channel i watch the intro....that wheelie run is just nuts and why i love (what we in europe call) super-streetbike
Pro Street is better 😊
R1 is definitely best looking d sounding bike in my opinion❤❤❤
Ducs are too bad either
R1 wishes it could sound as good as an aprilia
r1 and r1 m have the same engine
It's worth it for track riders who are trying to get every bit of power..
Roll racing is for max effort
Just about anything track, drag strip and roll racing not just track. If anything roll racing would need every bit of power more than track
Then you see toprak at mugello training with a r1m stock 8seg slower than the sbk one .. skills and practice makes more difference than expending Xs amount of money in accessories 😊.
Rider skill would be more of a deciding factor in a race between an R1 vs. R1M around a track. How many people are even skilled enough to extract the tiny bit of performance out of the R1M over the standard R1? A pro rider on a R6 would keep up with an average rider on an R1M. The difference between the two is negligible. I'd say you're better off buying the base R1 and modifying it with the extra money you saved over the R1M.
The cams would be worth it with either exhaust really well done sir this is actually my dream bike was planning on buying one this year but my wife got diagnosed with cancer 2 days before Mother’s Day and the money for my dream bike went to my wife no question worth it I figure out a way to get my dream bike but she is more important never even hesitated where the money needed to go my wife and kids is exactly where it need to go even though we talked about me saving money for the bike and I found one then we went to her appointment and things changed. Awesome vids as always thank you for sharing 👊🏻🤙🏼
Has to be the best looking and best sounding sports bike out there.
I agree with Chris it needs some engine mods to make use of the extra flow for it to be worth it.
What a Beauty! 😍Love the look and the sound of the R1. Yamaha for life
Motomillions had an R1M and R1 with the same Akro WSBK SS Spec Exhaust and got 198HP on both on the dyno. Only difference is had sprint air filters and WSBK Velocity stacks. At least the two were consistent with same mods.
The fact that chris Moore's most insane bikes and fastest lap times are all Suzuki is enough to make anyone respect that how much boost and butchering Suzuki can handle.
You can get the GYTR ECU and wire harness and tune it to high test fuel and it will be 205hp at the wheel.
The wsbk exhaust is probably worth it all supporting mods. Vstacks Wheel bearings filter etc. If your wanting an extra 2-5 whp.
It might be the same but not in looks that carbon fiber black,gray,blue combo is sharp as hell
R1 are my favorite bike the look and sound of them is tops . He also have my second favorite bike at his shop that H2.
Love this keep them coming and don't forget make that R1 famous if anyone can do it it's you
My r1m you did in one of your other videos made 190 with the team westby racing exhaust from yoshmura. Stock engine can only make so much
There is a RUclips video on an R1 race bike and changing the head on it from what the team manager said gains a tremendous amount of horsepower so I can see that exhaust been better given its diameter
Beauty is in the eye of beholder as they say but nothing beats DUCATI V4 IN LOOKS.. Italians know what they are doing
Ducati. 😍👍
Ducati is a p.o.s. in looks and reliability..oil leaks out of the factory and too hot in the summer..grow a brain
It is a great looking bike but the v4 is not tall person friendly like the other person said on top of the heat factor that bounces off that bike and the maintenance will kill you but it is nice looking I just like more well rounded bike and I’ll talk the other pluses from the r1 m and lose a little of the looks to the v4
You pretty much summed it up Chris, this pipe is designed to flow 230+ horsepower. Which you just can’t reach without major engine work or a turbo.. is it worth the money ? - for the road No but you are paying for the R+D that went into producing it, against the limited numbers they’ll produce.. Maybe you should get some super aggressive cams for drag racing and see if your pipe holds it back..!!
this akra pipe is for wsbk specs, around 220-230 hp 👍
Still be interesting to see how much flow it can handle before it becomes “ the restriction” and the bigger headers become an advantage, WSB motors spend the bulk of their life flat out - so maybe the extra flow helps where’as on the road you need a bit of midrange to make it rideable, hence the compromise, then again when you produce an engine putting out 200+ HP but then have to electronically limit it to stop it looping itself into the scenery - how much power do you really need on the road…( TYRES ARE GETTING VERY EXPENSIVE..!!! ) .😂
@@ianmurray3820 diameter of headers ,mide pipe,and silencer is designen for optimal flux (gas volume at diferents speeds of flux, flux waves and linear speeds on every conduct and control the exhaust back presure... obviously more diámetro tubos is better for big and high speeds fluxes ...
@@ianmurray3820 for some people the speed becomes an addiction, and always needs more hp ... 😅
It’s a great looking bike coming from a guy who doesn’t own one. I must admit I like 650ibs M 1000 with all the carbon fiber. Not even a BMW fan but he’s got me wanting that fine machine over everything else.
Waiting on that merch and the H2 lol
Yeah the carbon R1 looks amazing ❤
I agree with you on that one. That looks so awesome!.
As I watched tons of videos. I truly believe, having you blue up my exhaust. Honestly, I think if anyone who gets an exhaust SHOULD go to a tuner for that. The outcome turns out way better that way. Chris, may God truly bless your abilities to work on bikes. You Sir, are the myth. The legend. The Bike Whisperer. Keep doing what you do. Amen.
Just hold it on limiter for a couple of minutes 👍
@@RealDisrespecfula couple hours just to be sure🙄
@@LeeTillburydrain the oil out first to prevent windage 👍
Hard to judge. I seen these make 198 with motomillion although feel that dyno is a tad generous. Need stacks and cams to gain the most from it. In think they run around 220 with kit ecu here in BSB but still if u can afford it why not.
Great video! Only worth it to up and coming and professional racers! However, every person is free to make their own decisions. These were my opinions! Thanks Chris!
4K on an exhaust .. WOW ...YAMAHA FO LIFE...R1 and R1M with the carbon .. sexy
Love your Videos. I personaly find the r1m looks a bit better
Thanks for the information Sir 🤝🏾👏🏾👍🏾👊🏾🙃
Cams plus some velocity stacks thaaatttt b***ch rollin🔥
M has the suspension upgrades. The old S has steel connecting rods.
Correct. As does the Mt 10
Gosh I sure you would love to make the 6 hour drive to get Chris to tune my 2023 gsxr 1000. Same color has his giveaway bike
HYPR BUSA COMING PRODUCTION SOON ?? think it will be a big win -- update be cool --get the tweaks out of it for daily rider ? whats price be ?
You mean its possible to buy a hyperbusa from factory or what?(as a hayabusa fan,that would be awesome)
Oh,ok
Do the GYTR cams give the R1 that classic “cammed” sound too?
That sound is from the crank....
Great Video. Why don't you use corrected dyno numbers? Do you find them inaccurate?
Awesome! Another dyno vid. You should remove all the drag racing clips from your intro and insert dyno pulls. Lol.
Still love the channel but I'll be back when there's some track action.
See ya
Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out 👍
Yeah, you should quit your job and start going to the track more too lol. I'm sure he would probably rather be at the track most of the time too but got to take care of business first.
Get the gytr cam for your bike, chris !
I have the GYTR Pro Shop near me. They also run the Yamaha World Superbike team, Crescent Yamaha. We see Toprak there quite often, he’s a friendly guy to chat too.
Cams would be interesting
Moto-million must have gotten back to him about that exhaust... Manny from moto million, im still waiting to hear from you guys about that superbike akro exhaust..
Not worth it unless you are going all out with cams, vel stacks ect ect. Looks gorgeous though.
I have a 04 R1 and need to bring my baby to y'all, I'm 2 hrs away. She needs some love, and a little of Moore Mafia magic! Hook a brotha up homie!
I agree 100%
Hey Chris will “ultimate pops and bangs” damage my busa at all? Sorry if this is a dumb question!😊
Do you tune Steinway pianos as well..?😆
Nah only organs
The bump in the 11k ish rpm; you solved it pretty well.
In your opinion, what is the cause of this noticeable bump in stock?
@TeamMooreMafia
You should do the 2024 zx6r dyno. I have the bike and would love to see what kind of changes a tune would make or even just an ecu flash
I have a question for any one how can i get a 2 step for my cbr 954
Is 2x entry’s going to be the best deal?
Can you fit air con unit to keep room at level temp & humidity? 👍
Has it got a db killer in
520 chain and ceramic wheel bearings
With as big as those pipes are, it really needs to move more air to take use of it. Big bore and/or cams for sure
He just needs ported heads and the stock cams dialed in to world, superbike specs! the shit you said won’t add more air to the engine
I'd have to relocate that oil cooler, it's waaaaaay too close to the header.🔥
Because that’s the stock oil cooler for streetbike!!! it’s not meant for that exhaust!!!! The teams in WSBK and BSB are running an oversize radiator /oil cooler by H2O. You cant go adding RS parts to a streetbike unless you plan to do all of it. Its all or none, no in between. That exhaust is going to bake the oil and decrease HP
@@USAracing That's why I'd relocate the factory oil cooler. I could easily move it away from the header.
Put it behind the power steering pump.
@@ricktaylor3748 I really doubt you would be able to do that! Have you not seen an R1 in person stripped of its bodywork? The ONLY possible thing you could do besides buying the proper RS radiator/oil cooler is to fabricate 2 small aluminum brackets to mount the oil cooler about a half inch to inch away from the headers...BUT then you will have the problem of the stock bodywork not fitting properly and have to trim it with a Dremel or something or just mount race track bodywork
@@USAracing I worked at a Kawasaki \ Suzuki dealership for 14 year.
Yamaha is one of the poorest. designed bikes on the market, they''re extremely hard to work on.
That's why there's not many professional Yamaha drag racing teams.
An ecu and cams should make more power then that exhaust in a stock bike.
I need you to Flash my 2020 R1M, Im in California so we only have 91puss gas can you still flash my ecu? All i have is a 2bros cat delete slipon and a BMC filter Thx!
Www.MooreMafia.com/ecu-flashing-service
R1 is the Best Looking Chris 🤘🏼 😂
Amazing ❤
The exhaust would be worth it with modified head, race cams and race ecu , with a standard engine....not so much !
Quick question man how do you get ur exhaust to color so well.
Making sure not to touch it with your hands, thats a major thing, even if you think your hands are perfectly clean the oils from your skin will cause it to do goofy stuff. Other than that he just runs it on the dyno until it does it. Most people dont have that luxury and ride them, thus getting other crud, bug guts and what not along the way that help mess the coloring up.
Long story short, the heat does it to the titanium, so it does it by itself it, just takes time.
Do you need to retune if you get a 520 chain and sprocket?
no, because it doesn't change anything fuelratio wise
Let me answer that with a question..Are you a retard ?
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WSBK exhaust,made to work best on WSBK ENGINE,NOT road bike ,so it wont show its best until you put the two ,designed for each other.
and made of titanium or enconel ... less weight 👍
R1 best looking bikes. Every other company jumping on those nonsense "wings" as if you actually need them.
Wholly sh*t, that sounds incredible!!
For that money he could have had a Inconel exhaust system.
Does a 5 dollar purchase really throw your hat in the mix
I’m so worried about that oil heater!
I'm worried about your mom
@@peterepeat7066i'm worried about you eggs near a Meat grill on summer 😂
My eggs will be fine unless I ride a ducati
What? It doesn't have an oil heater.
Cams,cams,cams. Did I mention cams.
The exhaust is nice but the one on your bike would do me fine.
Hey Chris do you think you would need a world superbike motor to take advantage of that pipe? I think so.
It’s worth it if your going for a pure king of the track day type bike.
Other then that your just throwing money around money to do so
Yeah if you put different cams in there I feel like it would be worth it. But if you just leave it with exhaust, filter and tune not worth it. Lol
Put those cams in it!
I think it is only worth it if the owner does some motor mods with the exhaust, other than that not worth the money.
Noooo! It's not worth having golden windows in a mud hut. Having other GYTR accessories to complement the exhaust would make so much sense of that price difference.
I have to disagree when you said the best looking sports bike however this is (My Opinion ) but the S1000RR is the best looking
the exhaust is sweet, but i hate the triangle look. any way to make it round like your common tip?
is it worth it? I say f*** no! 🤣
I’ll keep my XDiavelS
Bigger is not always better on a stock engine.
I thought the R1M he had was a giveaway bike?
Pipe was about to fall off at start.
Akrapovic in the past was OK Graves way better had several R1s with both
Rubbish. Akrapovic make exhausts for MotoGP bikes, when Graves are in that kind of company come back and tell us.
Not worth it. Also… so insulting to be sold an ultra premium performance motorcycle that is holding so much hp back…..
sounds like yamaha is ripping their customers off, nice bike but not double. with that exhaust maybe head porting with cams would net you 200-205. I think i would heat shield the oil cooler or move it
How do you figure? They never claim the bike has more power . It does exactly what they claim which is the semi active ohlins fork and shock and. Carbon fiber body. They charge around 8-9k which is fair when you look at what carbon fiber bodywork costs as well as the suspension. It’s not a deal, but it’s far from double and you are paying for what you get . If it’s worth it , it’s worth it .
R1m sexy power offfff
Glad I went with the zx10 instead
Ain’t that faster tho
I got mine last week 😊 R1 needs an update. Same bike since 2015
@@MrWolf2212 honestly still looks good if anything i think the new zx10 looks like shit to me With how the new gen bike looks I prefer the 16-19 version
@@Anonymous-jj9yu to each his own 🤷🏻♂️
@@MrWolf2212 it’s still a good bike
Could i win the h2 even if iam from Austria 🇦🇹
Yes you can but you will need to find a way to transport it.
210 or 220 hp
Akros ring different
ONE OF THE MOST FINICKY ECUS OUT THERE. THEY FAIL THE WRITE SO MUCH.
id buy a used r1 over an r1m. can't be worth the extra $
2015 R1 in the UK is £10k- £11k
2015 R1M is £11k- £12k ( Source- Autotrader)
unless theres is £1000's in difference of servicing, id go for an R1M for the looks
I think the face lifted R1's (2022+) have a different intake system or something. They seem to make more power once tuned. You can check Chris's other videos and see it.
@@haymush69i mean here in aus a 2021 r1m used is $32,000 ish where as a 2021 r1 is roughly 25k used
@@yummyhershey5902yea i meant new gen used r1 over a equivalent year r1m
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172 is still a lot of hp
😂
Yeah it’s great for a 750 😂
😂
Gotta agree. Not only is it still fast, but it's pretty average for what the other liter bikes dyno at the wheels on a factory tune.
Still a fast bike for sure but compared to other liter bikes its nothing special.
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i think the r1m and the h2r are both hideous. the zx14r is a sexy beast though.
Anyone spending this kind of $$$ on exhaust or 30k for a bike seriously needs their head examined. I have owned an R1 & traded for a older k3 Gsx R750 w/standard free flowing full Yoshi exh. & I guarantee I’m having more fun & satisfying wins & rides on the streets of Tx than anyone else!doesn’t take much money to do so.✌🏼
It is a lot of money, but people do what they like. If they can afford it, good for them.
That’s not $4k ask me how I know.
Not worth it