2023 Yamaha R1 vs R1M: Which High-Performance Yamaha Motorcycle is Right for You?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- n this video, we compare the 2023 Yamaha R1M and the 2023 Yamaha R1, two of the most highly anticipated motorcycles of the year. We'll take a close look at the design, performance, and features of each bike to help you decide which one might be right for you.
The Yamaha R1M is the more premium of the two, featuring advanced electronic suspension, carbon fiber bodywork, and a highly adjustable riding position. It also comes with a GPS data logger, allowing you to analyze your lap times and improve your performance on the track.
The Yamaha R1, on the other hand, is no slouch in terms of performance. It comes equipped with a high-revving 998cc engine, advanced electronics, and a lightweight aluminum frame. It may not have all the bells and whistles of the R1M, but it's still a formidable machine in its own right.
Whether you're a seasoned racer or just looking for a high-performance street bike, both the 2023 Yamaha R1M and R1 are sure to impress. So sit back, relax, and let's dive into the details of these two amazing machines!
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Back is early 2020, I had bought a standard 2020 R1 then 6 months later out of curiosity went and found a new 2020 R1M to replace it with. The R1M is totally more comfy and feels like it handles that much better all the time. Dont forget the R1M has a Hand-Formed Aluminum Gas tank too. Thanks for this video it confirms my thoughts exactly 💯
I love my R1m.
that is just placebo, they have the same ergonomy, they handle the same
@@joaomendes7989r1m has upgraded forks/shock...calls it a placebo effect when it comes to handling 💀🤡🤡🤡
As a road rider, I went for the r1 as the money saved allowed me to do the full titanium akrapovic system and flash ecu while buying better rubber and adding my carbon parts, break levers etc.
Cant really go wrong with either
No ohlins dude
R1M is really better than R1 But the price point difference is not that worth, but if the difference is like about 6k-7k that is reasonable i think 🤔
Lends it really depends what you're looking for. To add everything it comes with it would cost more. So for me personally...it was a wash.
The brand Yamaha never gonna beg you to buy this legendary machine ...How much respect you giving to this will pay off mate ... Means .. not everyone is deserve this machine R1M you got that ?
Its true. Very high deference in terms og value. But same performance
R1M has titanium and aluminum internals so you also take that price difference into account
There is no way you could buy a regular R1, and then retrofit it with parts to match what comes on the R1M for 6k-7k. You couldn't even do it for the actual 10k difference they charge you.
The way you are talking and showing the difference, I didn't know you had 1.9K subs, honestly I thought you must have like 400-500K subs because you sound like an experience youtuber. good video
I just started the channel 9 weeks ago. That’s also when I learned to edit a video. Never done this RUclips stuff before. I’m 50 years old and still learning new things. 🤓 I pray that I get there in the very near future. Thank you so much for the support.
honest and straightforward with the review! great job man. Really helped me to pick the r1m
Thank you Brother. I appreciate you.
I thought a A-level bike comparison must be impossible....until your video. Well done Sir👊🏽
JG...I appreciate that Brother. I try to keep it real and 100% unbiased as a customer and enthusiast. Thank you for the follow snd support. I sincerely appreciate it.
Having both is exactly what I want to do. Yamaha is great, I have an R7 now and I’m getting the R9 once it come out. Once I have the R9, the R1M is next, then a regular one.
I’m gonna have a killer Yamaha collection 💯
Christian thats a great plan/goal. You won't be disappointed.
Why don't you try mt 09 the fun is real ❤️
@@Hydra-og6jf if I had the money now I’d definitely get an XSR900, the MT-09 would be sick too but I like the looks and style of the XSR more
@@yzf.blvnch i also like the looks of xsr more .
@@Hydra-og6jf I'm just not a fan for Naked Bikes
I have the 2022 R1 and absolutely love it! I came really close to getting the R1M but I just couldn't pull the trigger due to the price.
The R1M is pretty darn amazing.
Great comparison. Appreciate all the experiential info, especially from a track and street rider's perspective. Thanks! 🤟 R1M
My pleasure Brother. Safe riding out there. I appreciate your support.
Nice. Been riding R1’s since the 90’s myself. Still have my 2002.
I swear I will ALWAYS have one in my Stable if not 2.
For you boys who have this bike from 2015 or newer you can install the radar detector underneath the right cheek fairing. Theres a comparement box etc. which have just enough space for one. Just make the on/off switch somewhere. I made microswitch next to hand so could pushed with the thumb. But the thing is you need a RD which works with the bluetooth. Check those stealth ones. Btw also drilled few holes front side plastic wall to get better signal...
Precisely. And they work like a charm. ❤️
Biased opinion here ('23 R1 owner) and never having rode an R1M, I personally can't justify the price difference. I track my bikes and have done some basic mods to my R1 (videos on channel) and I love the bike, been my dream bike for many years. But due to tracking and only riding street occasionally, the increased comfort you describe in the R1M isn't enticing enough for me. I also would cry if I crashed my R1, so I imagine I'd have some suicidal tendencies if it was an M lol. Anyway, beautiful machines, would love an M but content with my R1 and using the $10k for tires, track days, and mods. Great video!
If you lived close I’d let you ride it. You would immediately have both in your stable.
@@CK_RIDES well I’m military so will be on the east coast again at some point and hold ya to that! Haha
I have been looking into a new bike and your video has confirmed il he getting an R1M thank you for sharing
Glad I could help
I had a bad experience with my 2020 R1. The engine blew at around 5000 mi (8000km). The bike had a full Akrapovic exhaust and Power Commander V+Secondary Fuel module with the map from the Dynojet site. Also, there is big flatspot when you put decat exhaust on the new R1. Motonosity had this problem when he installed SC Project exhaust. I even noticed that RUclipsr Imkay test rode R1 60th, and the bike also had flatspot. The MotoMillions R1M also has flatspot. Before people start commenting that it needs to be remapped/flashed. Both R1 60th that ImKay test rode and MotoMillions R1M were flashed.
Emissions are slowly killing superbikes.
I would agree with your comment. Remapping the fuel/air mixture is CRITICAL. I was lucky because KWS who flashed my ECU already had that figured out for their Race Bikes. My bikes pull hard. Like super hard.
PC was ur issue..
@@sipwitme4625 Could be.
“Emissions” regulations are killing everything, not just superbikes, and not slowly, either.
@@CK_RIDES
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Totally can’t wait to get one next year. Really like both of them and the colors
The new engine is goin to be stellar
Bro, are you serious about how comfortable the ride is on the M1? Like riding a Harley in a race position?? Dude, I'm sold!!! Thank you very much because you answered my MAIN question, THE REAL DIFFERENCE between the two OTHER than JUST the suspension. Great info and video.
For a Sportbike my R1M’s electronic suspension is super cushy.
Great video!
You forgot 1 important detail on R1M..
Titanium connecting Rods!!
Doesn’t add horsepower, it increases acceleration rate. For track, race this is valuable performance.
You are 100% correct. Thank you for the reminder...
Did not know that, very cool. 😎
The R1 comes with titanium connecting rods just like the M
Both engine s on r1 and r1m exactly the same to much bull shit Iv had 2016 r1m and 2020r1m and 2020 norm r1 and 2023 r1 anniversary red white one only thing I miss the ohlins that’s power all the same to many out there saying there big difference no there is not at all Yamaha tell you that
That blue is so beautiful man
My Fave kind of BLUE.
Great video, and killer setup 🙏🏽
Thanks so much Blaine. ❤️
You sold me to pay the extra, i was going to add full ohlins on r1
but to me r1m makes more sense just add rearsets exhaust n levers
Great video thanks fkr the info, very helpful
So glad to be of assistance
I like the rarity of the M compared to an plain r1. Wasn’t a fan of the r1 and had preference of the bmw s1krr but something about that r1m got me
It's a very special bike. You'd enjoy it.
Great review / comparison. thanks.
My pleasure
@CK_Rides Thank you for the effort and video comparison. First time on your channel and I am happy to see someone talk about Yamaha. R1M would be an automatic choice any day if budget is not in question. Love the R1 family CP, great engine, great quality and build. Huge selection with their line up and high end parts. Value for the money! Keep bringing more videos CK.
R1M all day, i got the 2017 model and i love it today the same as the day i bought it from brand new.
I love my R1M.
You lucky lucky man. Must admit I love them both. But the r1m is the dogs nuts. Good luck with the channel my friend..
John thanks for the support. I sincerely appreciate it.
I own 2 R1s. a 2019 and 2022. I'm considering trading the 2019 in for the R1M
Brother...you will not regret it. I promise.
I love my 2019 R1 but for sure be sore after a full day of riding lol
Me too. Sore is an understatement. Needed a massage with a happy ending afterwards 🤣
You never explained why you have both? I am assuming the only reason is so you can do a good comparison. From the video, you had all positives about the R1M, really only negatives regarding the R1 compared to the R1M. Only negative to the R1M...price. You don't seem to mind that negative at all lol. Thanks for the review!!!
The only reason I have both of them is because I got a really good deal on the R1M. Both bikes have since been sold but I do miss my R1M and when the new engine comes out I’ll probably buy another one.
Apart from the electronic suspension, data logger and a few carbon bits the standard R1 is the same. The R1M & R1 have the same engine & produce the same amount of power and I think a regular rider wouldn’t benefit paying the extra cost. However, I do like the look of the R1M.
Love the bikes, I bought my first one a couple months ago a 2021 HD Sportster S. I wish I would have looked longer at bikes first though that R1m looks beautiful
Congrats on your new bike...
I’m Thinking about buying one a rm1 but man 27g sob but it’s completely worth it if your trying to resell it later and at least get half your money back or more well maintained
I sold my R1M for $8K more than I bought it because it was Track ready.
I know the M is better overall, but the colors on the regular one are just prettier. 😍
The S1000RR is 70% an M1000RR for $18K less. It's a great value.
@@CK_RIDES I was just referring to the two Yamahas. The blue on the regular model is just gorgeous.
Love my 2018 R1. Makes you feel great when you ride it. Had an 04 before that, also superb. R1s all the way dude. Your R1M chain looks a little slack there bud
It is...waiting on a new sprocket. Good Eye. 🤓
@@CK_RIDES What tank grips you running dude?
@@LeeTillbury Techspec
I am super happy with my r15 v3, unfortunetely we dont have r1 in our country but I will get one, always had dreams of it....
Enjoy the ride.
Bangladesh 😐
@@lastprophet9904 India
Indians waiting for Yamaha and Honda to launch their big bikes Honda started to treat us well but Yamaha still stuck with r15 and mt 15
@@Hydra-og6jf Very True.
Hmm " you can totally dial the r1m suspension". You can actually "totally dial" the reg R1 suspension too. Setting sag you still have to manually jack or otherwise the rear shock on both, With the R1M you are dealing with a dynamic suspension. ..Which is actually not what you ideally want if you're at the track. Dynamic suspension is getting better but impedes performance if you have any skills. Having owned both bikes I didnt feel the huge difference stated riding around re comfort. Ohlins is obviously a higher end set up but still.... I ran my R1M on manual suspension set up as was far superior to the dynamic set up - Carbon fibre is a nice touch but doesnt add to performance albeit weighing cpl pounds less. Electronics on both bikes are the same outwith the ability to set the dynamic suspension on R1M. All in all the same bike with different suspension. IMO best to go the regular R1M route switch the fork internals and possibly switch the rear shock if your skill set merits it and you;ll have a bike superior to the R1M.
Thats great insight.
I upgraded my suspension on my 2017 R1👍🏾
Is it okay to put a wrap over the R1M carbon fiber parts?
Why would you wrap factory carbon?
@CK_RIDES Ik, it's dumb but I want to wrap the whole bike, I just wanna know if something is gonna happen to the carbon fiber
Where did you buy and what brand are the handlebar stops?, thanks dude! 🔥
Team Charlotte Motorsports. And they are TST's
I might have to wait until next year to get the r1m . I still owe $21k on my benz . After I pay it off I’ll get it god willing 🎉
You won't regret it.
i got a 2020 r1m. bought it new. Nova Scotia Canada.
Dave...how much do you love your R1M?
Where in nova scotia ? Im looking to order
That is interesting that you went with the same exhaust on both bikes.
Yes. I'm a huge Yoshi Fan.
They both look gorgeous. I have a question, have you tuned them both? What are the numbers on dyno? Thank you!
Yes I have. The R1 did 202 at Crank and 193 at the Wheel. The R1M did 203 at crank and 191 at the wheel.
@@CK_RIDES those are some really impressive numbers. Ride safe! 😄
hey bro great video! quick question, how tall are you? this is for me to understand if it the R1M is the more comfortable bike for someone who is around 6’0-6’2
im 5'10.
@@CK_RIDES do you think someone who is 6’1 would feel the same comfort?
When you have a lotta money to spend in 5, 10 different bikes, it doesn’t matter anymore which one is slightly better at one thing or another, and you should do whatever you feel like. But for the most mortals of us it’s interesting to think a bit more thoroughly, I guess. The R1 and R1M are definitely not two completely different bikes. They are in fact pretty much the same bike. After a lot of thought, research and after testing both bikes, I decided for the R1. And the money that I saved in the Öhlins suspensions I will maybe use in the future for upgrading the brakes of the R1, which is for sure the most negative point of the bike, and in this respect the R1 and R1M are exactly the same, they both have exactly the same brakes. And if you really want to be serious in the race track there are even better options with other non automatic Öhlins suspensions out there. But as I said, if money for you is not an issue, go with the R1M, it’s a beautiful looking bike. Peace and love
M if you got it regular r1 cuts the mustard just fine
What would you say would be the best aftermarket exhaust for either one of the bikes?
I use Yoshimura Pipes exclusively.
Thank you for the information my guy helps me think on spending that 10k more but I’m also tax exempt since I’m Native American 🇺🇸 ❤
That's awesome!!!!
This guys opinion mattered until I saw the Tesla in his driveway (joke)😂🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣 My Tesla is 5 years old and still taking souls. 😂😂😂
Hey sir, how tall are you? I’m asking that because I’m 1,86 m and wondering if the R1 would fit me. I just love the way this bike looks! Thanks
Great vid! I have a ZX10R. I am looking to switch to a different litre class bike. Do you think R1 is worth the switch? Can you elaborate how R1 is different than other litre class bikes out there? Thanks!
What kind of modifications would you do to the r1 to make the ride more pleasing ?
I would start by working on the suspension settings.
Carbon fiber fairings and suspension. That’s the only difference. It’s not by chance that some of the most competitive racers ride manually adjusted suspension.
Because they have a $20 million pit crew behind them that can adjust and fine-tune every single thing needed for the average rider a self-adjusting suspension is all that you need and the ride is wonderful
You call them track bikes, but they have headlights, mirrors, turn signals, license plates, etc? Do you mean capable of track riding vs a track bike, or are these just for track? Give me the blue but throw that brushed tank on there too. Cheers
These are track bikes the mirrors are quick release.They come off and I snap in mirror blocks in its place. The headlamps get taped. Then you're off to the races.
Do you know the width of the r1 handle bars. I’m trying to purchase a set of canyon dancers so I can pick my bike up this weekend. Thanks again
34 inches
Also i got to say that one area i have to fault the R1 is i felt its electronic dash was a little less than the ZX10R
What do you do for a living?
www.cktradinginstitute.org
I Love the sound of the r1 .if I was buying one it would be the r1m.clour and carbon and comfort .any news if there be a 2024 r1 .great video 👍🇮🇪🇮🇪
I have not heard anthing about the 2024. I'm sure its going to be spectcular.
@@CK_RIDES I think Yamaha will stop making the r1 for the road and go to track bikes. Heard a whisper from Yamaha
@@andrewveal1958 They did introduce in EUROPE a TRACK SPECIFIC model. So the US market will be next I'm sure.
Samw brakes?
Does both models equipped with an OEM Steering Dampers or do you have to purchased seperately?
They come with OEM dampeners
me toR1 and R6 ridden and owned and still own, Im sorry maybe because im an instructor and taught on track, is it worth the extra $10k kind of yes, but that's probably more for intel and suspensions or the Carbon? NO, if you do not have 2 grand to play with can you make the normal R1 as good yes you can, but only to do with auto-tuning of the suspension but it will only run over a number of tracks for example which once its set it will stay, so to be honest lern howto tune your suspension its done simple as but next track same again, lol
I agree with you.
@@CK_RIDES wowthats a new reply i usually get slagged right off hahaha cheers
2015 Ducati 1299s thinking to trade it in r1M what do u guys think 💭
💯💯💯
Beautiful bikes!
Thank you so much. I sincerely appreciate it.
@@CK_RIDES You’re very welcome.
I had no idea the R1M made all the adjustments to the suspension on the fly.
Thank you for that info.
@@fjones1914 Glad to be of help.
Is that stock exhaust on both the yamahas?
No. Yoshimura ALPHA
what fender eliminator kit do you have?
I use New Rage Exclusively for all my bikes.
what are the mods on the R1M
Full engine work done by KWS. New Billet, velocity stacks, fuel pump, air filter, piston heads etc.
how do you compare it to an s1k? have a 2022 and love the crossplane sound but dont feel like restarting on a loan. have the m package with the dynamic suspension etc. bike is pretty restricted but with tune and mods easy 200 plus hp
Jayden I love the BMW S1000RR. I actually have one on order. Stay tuned for the build series videos.
I'll get a R1 in September.
So excited for you.
What brand are the tank pads/grips you use?
I use TechSpec tank grips.
I'll buy the r1 ang upgrade it with suter swing arm, fgr300 ohlins, ttx ohlins rear suspension and ohlins dumper
Nice set up.
I remember riding the standard r1 in 2018 or so (coming off my S1000RR). The R1 had a seriously choppy throttle, very uncomfortable on the wrists. Im not sure that subsequent year models fixed its ridiculous fueling. Sounded nice but just no. Wondering if it's changed at all or if the r1m is any diff, or if 5 years has altered this bike at all? Ps. I think the r1M has a wider rear tyre?
do you have to setup compression and rebound on the r1m for a heavy rider or does it adjust itself ??? Also the gps thing works on it own or do you have to connect it first with wifi or something ?
Zubair its self adjusting which is why I love my R1M. The GPS is always connected you just have to hook your phone up to it to download the data for analyzation.
Are you in Canada or USA?
USA
Question, where did you buy your yoshimura exhaust for your R1 at? And how much more or less? I'm having trouble finding the same exhaust. Thanks
Go to www.yoshimura-rd.com
@@CK_RIDES Thanks brotha!
@@danielgutierrez3327 My pleasure
my 2021 r1 dissipated un-evidentially 2.5 liters of oil in 500kms and blew the engine.... reliable.... nope oil check light didnt even come on while the engine was about to die!
Mann give me the regular r1. Didnt hear you say anything about the r1m that would make me want to spend an extra 10k
Ohlins
Sir pls compare r1m and m1000rr
That video is coming.
What is your height bro
5’11
I’m torn between the ZX10,H2r,R1,and the R1M they are all amazing bikes which one should I choose 😂
Good thing 2020 r6 value would only go up thru time 😊
Love the R6.
Regular for track. M for road.
Is the R1 Street Legal?
Yes. Just barely.
@CK_RIDES What's the CC? I want one but I'm a beginner rider. Barely getting into bikes
@@TacticalSoul 1000cc
@CK_RIDES 🤯😳🫣 Oh....ok so definitely not a starter bike lol I want that look though so much, maybe if they had like a 600cc or 650
@@TacticalSoul there's r3 300cc, r6 600cc too but 300cc is good for beginners
Love Yamaha I would take them both if I could
My dream❤
Alex...you will soon have it . I promise. You may even get this very bike. I'm thinking about raffling it off to some lucky person after the summer season.
What’s camber on a motorcycle?
Camber on a motorcycle refers to the angle of the wheels relative to the vertical axis of the bike when viewed from the front or rear. Specifically, it is the angle between the vertical axis of the wheel and a plane perpendicular to the ground.
Positive camber is when the top of the wheel is angled outward from the vertical axis, and negative camber is when the top of the wheel is angled inward toward the bike. In motorcycles, positive camber is generally undesirable because it can cause the bike to feel unstable and reduce traction during cornering.
It's worth noting that some motorcycles, particularly off-road or motocross bikes, may have intentionally designed positive camber to improve stability and handling in certain situations, such as when landing from jumps or tackling rough terrain. However, for most street-oriented motorcycles, a slight negative camber or a neutral camber angle is preferred for optimal handling and safety.
Then can you explain what is inboard and outboard of a motorcycle is?
Buy the R1M just for all that naked carbon fiber
So the r1m looks like it has passenger pegs for 2up does the regular r1 have that to or no; or can you even do 2up with either one of these bikes? just wonder because that would be the other factor for me; my oldest kid loves going on rides with me.
You can put a passenger seat on the R1M. I only kept the peg for my camera mount.
There is a reason why people don't like powerpoints...
I can't seem to find you on instagram but im on there under this username
Couldn’t spend that money on a bike that comes with standard breaks look at the rsv4 rf night and day
Thats a really nice bike too. I've had Aprilia and wasn't a fan.
What are you talking about when you say "camber" for the rear suspension? That made no sense to me.
See my response to another viewer with the same question.
@@CK_RIDES Just read it, thanks. In your video you referred to it when talking about the rear suspension. You can adjust camber at the rear suspension? I've never seen an adjustment knob for this.
@@CK_RIDES Even then I've still confused. Camber makes sense in a car because of symmetrical wheels on each side. But a motorcycle only has one front and rear wheel. Are you referring to the lean angle? And how are they different? Sorry but this is not a topic that has ever been covered by any motorcycle videos I've watched before.
If you race on specific tracks you’ll understand what I mean when your crew chief adjusts your bike for the specific track conditions.
@@CK_RIDES That's what I mean. I have been to various tracks with veterans and never once have they talked about adjusting rear camber.
Will never go Honda Fireblade RR-R-SP ever again!!! The key fob was the absolute worst, the restrictions are insane, bike was unrideable for the 1st year. Yes it was eventually flashed, but always felt cramped. 6x WSBK winning ZX-10-RR has been incredible stock, gonna be insane when set up . Bike is Lime because its Sublime!!! R1-M are non-existent and so was the ZX-10-RR, Flook of nature i was able to get a ZX-10-RR
I have heard the same thing about the Fireblade. Ended up reallocating Money from the Fireblade I wanted to order to a BMW M 1000RR that I ordered 3.5 weeks ago. Stay tuned for the videos.
My truck is blue,but on a bike nothing looks better then green,and we all know who sports green.
I have a ZX-10R. I concur. 💯
@MM93 I love my CBR 1000RR too 🤣
Reason #1: Because I can
Yamaha r1m for me because it's way too loud expecially when it comes to revving it
The only difference is the electronics that it. Not worth the extra money...
The suspension on the R1M was WAAAAAAY worth it to me. It's a night and day ride from a normal R1 on the street.
@CK_RIDES and thats the only difference though... The way you explain it in the video like you're getting a difference motorcycle. Like other manufacturer premium bikes they come completely difference then the standard bike they have. I've been a Yamaha rider for over 20 years and I'm disappointed in how Yamaha have fallen so far behind in technology and engine performance.
@@willR1 I definitely feel like Yamaha could up the anti on their engines. I completely agree. I do love the suspension on the R1M. It's such a great upgrade to the stock suspension on the regular R1. I always have worked on the engines to bring them up to track par. But it would be nice to see something spectacular out of the box like the Fireblade or the BMW M S 1000RR track edition.
@CK_RIDES I totally agree 💯 precent
Brain says Yamaha r1m, heart screams Aprilla rsv4 factory 😢
both are great bikes
You're not lying about the ride it's definitely not a Cadillac
Todd...sore bodies is a given. Especially on these bikes.
Beautiful bikes and you should not care what people think oh why brotato chip would you buy another Yamaha R1. Yamaha makes fantastic bikes sorry Ducati but I’ve seen brand new Ducati’s leaking oil leaking coolant on brand new Ducati’s at car shows.
I would take either but i would love to own a R1M
The R1M is a very special machine. I know a lot of people cant stomach the price but in my opinion the suspension makes this bike a dream to ride on the street and track. Thank you again for the support and follow. I sincerely appreciate it.
R1M❤
Me too. I concur.
Which one sounds more like a v8
I’ll give u 15 for ur r1m end of 2023 season🎉