S&S Cycle - Installing S&S Super E & G Carbs On H-D® Evolution® Engines
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2015
- In this video we show you how to install an S&S Super E or G carburetor on a Harley-Davidson® Evolution® engine. This video covers 1984-'99 big twins and 1986-'03 H-D® Sportster® models.
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Damn this guy’s good at instructional videos.
I had the pleasure of working with him at S&S and helped him make some of his videos. I learned a LOT from him but you should hear him play the blues!
I wish this man were my grandpa!
We all do!
I just put one of these babies on my '99 Softail Custom, replacing the stock CV carb. That booger fired right up like it's never done before. Still dialing in the mixture, but I'm super impressed so far. I used this vid along w/ the instruction package that came with the kit. For the manifold part I used an extended ball-end 1/4" Allen on the right side only to get them snug; The clearances/ angles were too steep to tighten them both all the way. I used a regular 4" Allen ground down about 1/4" for the rest of that work. To get to the two carb bolts around the other side I had to drop the horn and bracket w/ the VOES/ choke. No special tools were used for the project. Thanks for the presentation.
These videos are brilliant. I've recently bought a 98 Evo 1340, fitted with an S and S carb, which was running rich on tickover. The set up video assisted me to cure the problem.
You are a badass and a life saver Great instructor thank you sir
Wow best video ever. Very informative, straight forward and in-depth!!
Thank you!
This is the best video, thanks!
One of best instructional videos out there
Thank you!
Thanks for all the good info
Thanks for posting this video. I bought a '97 WG two months ago with a S&S (E) carb on the bike. This "should" help me fine tune the carb better knowing how it functions on these models.
Can I use the new style pleated filter instead of my old foam one in my Super E?
Damn nice air cleaner, getting that teardrop on my 2015 wide glide that's been stage 1'd.
that teardrop looks good on my 91 Snorty1200 w super E carb.
Hi, I already installed the hi-4n s & s ignition and the harley worked on the first attempt. I have an evolution from 1998. I would like to ask two questions:
1- After the ignition is installed, can I try different advance rates? or do I have to always calibrate from the beginning by putting the piston in tdc?
2- If black smoke comes out of the exhaust from time to time, is it a tunning ignition problem, or the carburetor?
Thank you
Just gotten my carb kit for my 89 fxsts...and a long weekend coming up...
Already got a single fire kit ignition kit from s&s
Is the twin cam 88 all the same way on the head breather holes? Tks
can i fit carbs on my 2012 electra glide and get red of the efi
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and do i need a new manifold and what are your sugestions parts wise
the bike cought fire and i wired every thing the old way and want to get stand alone coils and carbs and get red of injuction and ecm
Anyone got a 89ish 1200 evo? If so what jetting did you find worked best?
I know the answer but want to double check. On the breather fittings does the flat/larger opening side go against the head? I am sure it does, but want to double check. Thanks
What jetting size would l start off with on my TWIN S&S super E carb Sputhe v60 engine ?
Blue thread lock on head and manifold bolts, I used stronger springs on the carb as the vibration throughs out the adjustments
Where is the extra long t-handle ball end hex key available? I've looked all over!
@SSCycleInc I have a 99 Nighttrain with a super E installed but they didn't have those breather bolts they just had an Allen head so I've been looking for the ones in the video but every place said they don't fit my bike so I just want to make sure
I'm restoring a '92 FatBoy and the S&S E went on today. The rear of the bracket for the horn, choke, gas line and VOS doesn't clear the intake manifold. It looks in the video like you have the VOS free standing on a short section of vacuum line. If that's the case, my problem is solved. Also, the throttle cables are tight up against the bottom of the tank where they come out of the bracket. Will this lead to a problem or is this normal. Thanks for posting this video. It is a great help!
Yes, we connected the VOES with a short piece of hose and you can generally zip tie it to the frame or something close to it. The switch is really light so it doesn't need a lot of support. The cables touching the tank should not be a problem unless they are kinked. No sharp bends!
Looking for the thread size of the idle mixture screw. Seems the thread in my carb is defective and I want to buy the right tool.... thanks
Got. It's a 10-32.
Hello Bruce, I purchased a beautiful 98 Springer softail that had a Hyper charger on it, the look was terrible and so was the performance so I purchased a S&S Super E shorty installed it myself with your help and the directions that came with it and I am very pleased, I have dialed it in to my ear but I will be taking it to Tilly HD in Statesville N.C. for a Dyno run to fine tune it, my only concern at this point is that there appears to be about a 1/2 inch slack in the return cable ?, the throttle snaps back as it should but when I adjust the slack out of the return cable the throttle tightens up, is the slack in the return cable normal, Thanks and l really appreciate the videos its great free education !!
+Tim Pope There has to be some slack in the cables to allow them to move freely, but 1/2" seems like a lot. Have you lubed your cables? Try some of that spray lube and one of those dandy little cable oiling widgets. The other thing to look for is a kink or sharp bend in the cable routing. If you can't get it to work right, have Tilly's look at it when you take it in for your dyno run. It never hurts that get another set of eyes on it!
+Tim Pope , Hey Thanks Bruce !
Rode the WG about 10 miles yesterday and the carb was leaking gas out the overflow tube while the bike was running. Switched the bike off and carb still leaking. Turning the fuel valve off is the only way to stop the steady flow of gas going out the tube. WG parked for now. Any helpful comments ? Thanks, Butch.
There is obviously a problem with the fuel inlet needle and seat, but there are a lot of things that can cause that. First thing of course, is don't run it like that!
You can check to see that there isn't some foreign material preventing the needle from seating (did you just paint your tank), or if for some reason, the float is sticking in the up position. Your best bet is to call our tech dept at 608-627-1497 and let our tech guys help you sort this out. They can talk you through way more possibilities in a 5 minute phone call than we can do in a week of comments on RUclips. Yes! these guys really are that good!
Thanks for the response and the info.
Check your float valve seat and height
The choke return spring is broken on my S & S carburetor. Where can I buy a replacement spring? My choke won't close.
We assume that you are referring to the enrichment device that you pull up for starting. You can get that at any S&S dealer. Check the dealer locator on our website at www.sscycle.com for a dealer near you. If you have a Super B or D carb you will need to buy the whole assembly. The part number is 11-2084, and if it's a Super E or G carb you can just replace the spring the part number for the spring is 11-2340.
Спасибо!
I have a 94 FLHTCU and have an Arlen Ness air breather and custom cover. Is there a way to use them on this carb swap or not? Thank you and great video. The humor justs add to the awesome job. "Steimi"
Assuming your aircleaner is set up for stock carb, it would not bolt to the S&S carb. We'd definitely recommend a fresh teardrop! www.sscycle.com/1994/Harley-Davidson/Electra-Glide-FLHTC/#category=1%7CAir%20Cleaners
What size is the allen driver?
Just bought a 92 FatBoy with an S&S Super E (my first S&S) it has the breather heads, and the breather fittings that the hose goes on move freely, that doesn't seem right. Shouldn't they be tight? I've watch some of your videos and I'm very impressed, might buy an S&S for my RK
It should be tight. We suggest calling our tech dept at 608-627-1487. Those guys can certainly get you straightened out, or tightened up (as the case may be).
Any way to eliminate drawing crankcase vapors into intake tract?
It certainly can be done. It's just an exercise in plumbing. There are even kits you can buy. The question is why do you want to. If there is oil vapor coming out of the crankcase breather, why not just send it through the engine to get rid of it. On the other hand, a lot of oil out of the breather is probably a symptom of another problem that requires attention. You could call our tech dept for some suggestions. 608-627-1497.
I noticed the last three screws for the S&S air filter chrome cover did not have any loctite or threadlocker applied to them. Other videos have mentioned to use it on those screws. How important is it for those screws to have some threadlocker applied or is it even necessary?
It's a really good idea to apply some. These engines vibrate and we sell a lot of replacement cover screws!
It's an VERY good idea to use threadlocker on those screws. Consider it mandatory. I've used red Loctite since the 1980s on Bs and later E's. On the B you can drill straight through the standoff because the back of the air filter housing is flat and use through bolts with lock nuts (lock washers are trash, ask NASA).. It would be nice if the areas on the E housing were flat to permit that. Hint, hint....
I just lost two of mine so I'd say use it
Am I missing something? I never heard/saw where the manifold is final tightened and torqued.
Do you the stock manifold flanges on a 05 Sportster?
Hey Brian - give us a call - 608-627-1958
Whats the difference in bore size for the E & G Carbs ?
Bore size on E is 1 7/8, and bore size on G is 2 1/16
Why is my enrichment lever binding what do I do if it does
Great info. I wish the dealer service department watched this. They did not install the 90 degree breather fitting. (1988 fxstc) does anyone know the size and thread for the fitting?
Reach out to our tech team at sstech@sscycle.com or give them a call at +1 608-627-1958.
@@SSCycleInc I have a 99 Nighttrain with a super E installed but they didn't have those breather bolts they just had an Allen head so I've been looking for the ones in the video but every place said they don't fit my bike so I just want to make sure
Awesome video 👍🏼, and since I watched it all do you think I can throw the instructions in the garbage?
Glad you liked it! We wouldn't recommend going that far 😂
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I have a 2006 XL883 and I am looking to buy this kit. Is the installation any different?
A lot of the info in this video will apply, but there are some differences in the kit, mainly in the breather system. Full instructions are included, and of course we have a full time tech dept available to help you out if you have any problems!
OK, thank you very much for your response, Ill be sure to keep in touch if any problems arise
I am having trouble with the installation, with the initial setup the bike will only run with the enrichment lever. Once the enrichment lever is no longer engaged the bike dies on me. Do you have any suggestions??
Please call our tech dept at 608-627-1497. Those guys will have this sorted out in a few minutes. They can talk you through way more possibilities in a 5 minute phone call than we can do in a week of comments on RUclips. Yes! these guys really are that good!
I just bought a brand new super e, while installing it. One of the screw with the blue lock tight for the backplate is stripped and and can't screw into one of the hole on the carb. Any advice?
Call our tech dept at 608-627-1497. They can sort it out.
I'm missing the 90 degree crank case vent fitting. Does anyone know the part # or what it is actually called?
+Patrick Favors If you're talking about the fitting that bolts to the cylinder head in 1991-later Sportster models and 1993 and later big twins it's called a banjo fitting the part number is 17-0350. If you have an earlier engine that breathes directly out of the crankcase the stock fitting is generally used so it's not included in the kit. If you have the installation instructions there are line drawings and parts lists in the back. If you don't have the instructions, you can download them from your website www.sscycle.com. Just click on instruction sheets under the tech info tab.
+S&S Cycle, Inc. actually I need the straight pipe nipple at 4:40 on the video.
+Patrick Favors OK! That is a 1/8-27 x 3/4" close nipple. Our part number is 50-8111, but it would be really be simpler to just pick one up at your local hardware store.
+S&S Cycle, Inc Ok thanks. I finally figured out what the previous owner was trying to do. You guys are great!
When all else fails, read the instructions.😀
I backed out the idle screw but have no idea who or where Tang might be. My guess is Cambodia. So here's your sign. lol
Just so everyone knows that what he said about 1990 and older sportsters throttle cables is backwards. The throttle cable goes in the back and the idle cable goes in the front
Correction folks! The cable with the spring is indeed the return cable but it goes in the FRONT guide, not the rear guide.
+Skepticynic We may be getting confused by semantics (we call the throttle guide toward the air cleaner the rear throttle guide) or it may be the fact that the throttle shaft and butterfly in an S&S carb rotates in the opposite direction from the shaft in a stock carb.
+S&S Cycle, Inc That seems strange that you'd consider the manifold side of the carb as the front! Nonetheless, you rush through that portion of the vid with very little detail. I was installing my super e on my '99 XLH1200C as I was watching the vid. Needless to say, I had to remove the carb and switch cables. If you could remake or edit the vid to show that procedure better, I think it will benefit countless viewers as well as boost the consumers perception of your expertise and professionalism.
@@skepticynic5150 did you have to buy new cables? This part is a bit unclear.
I hope the instructions have a tool list in it
Here's the instruction sheet: www.sscycle.com/docs/default-source/instruction-sheets/510-0251_super_eg_series_shorty_carbs.pdf
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i have installed my carb as seen here and it will not idle ?
That should not be! Please call our tech line at 608-627-1497. Those guys can probably sort it out in a few minutes. It's lots easier to talk you through it in real time than exchange a bunch of messages!
talked to them and they got me lined out thanks very much !
Roger Bartell
Our tech guys are responsible for a lot of happy endings.
Hi love ur videos
I have a sporty 95 1200 been sitting for a couple of years, I started her had her running very rough so put new plugs in and new fuel and and now when I start her she raves on high and I mean full and I have to shut off , cabling and throttle all good , just followed ur video abov put it back together and same thing starts and reves her tits off I’m at a loss can you help 🤟
Hey Rob, drop us a message over to sstech@sscycle.com with all the info you have on your bike and the current configuration. Our team would be happy to help you figure it out!
why is my air cleaner full of oil?
If you have installed it according to the instructions (Crankcase vent routed to the air cleaner) oil in the air filter indicates that you have oil carryover in your breather system. There are lots of reasons for that problem, and it would be best to contact our tech dept to determine the cause. 608-627-1497
S&S Cycle, Inc Overfilled oil tank!