The Adventures of Sir Calvin the Almost Gallant

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
  • You know how when you tell Calvinists that their theology is bad, instead of defending their theology, they tell you that your theology is just as bad as theirs?
    That's the joke here. That's the one joke in this here video.

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  • @helenel4126
    @helenel4126 5 месяцев назад +134

    Richard Dawkins has just declared himself to be a "cultural Christian." Surely Donnell and Connell can return and comment about that!

    • @brainsinthemist2350
      @brainsinthemist2350 5 месяцев назад +12

      Yes!!!!

    • @DIYenthusiastfreak
      @DIYenthusiastfreak 5 месяцев назад +19

      They sure better there Patrick

    • @eldermillennial8330
      @eldermillennial8330 4 месяца назад

      Maybe throw Leper King Baldwin into the mix to confront Dawkins on his nonsensical hypocrite position regarding Islam.
      Deus Vult!

    • @johnk.patterson1733
      @johnk.patterson1733 4 месяца назад +2

      Immediately! The world needs more Donnell and Connell.

    • @thesnatcher3616
      @thesnatcher3616 2 месяца назад

      To be fair, that was always his position since the beggining. Or at least for a while.

  • @davidburton8156
    @davidburton8156 6 месяцев назад +271

    I’m a Calvinist and I think I finally realize where I got my relationship problems.

    • @nonnisitedomine7744
      @nonnisitedomine7744 6 месяцев назад

      Me as a Calvinist trying to be encouraging:
      You’re trash, just like me!

    • @blindvision4703
      @blindvision4703 5 месяцев назад +2

      ???

    • @benjaminhoward4630
      @benjaminhoward4630 5 месяцев назад +1

      Nah, if anything this is one massive projection and nothing more.

    • @greatnate1684
      @greatnate1684 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@benjaminhoward4630 lol
      Straw man?

    • @Baltic_Hammer6162
      @Baltic_Hammer6162 5 месяцев назад

      After I was lead to do deep research into Jean Cauvin man in Geneva, the many many revelations of the acts of the real man were jaw shattering. The revelations are way too numerous to type out in a comment. But I did learn the source and reasons WHY so many in the Calvinist/Reformed have mental issues. Why there's so much anxiety, so much back-biting, hardness to other images of God, and why there is so much "vigorous" arguing over unbiblical twisted versions of "doctrines" bases on false pretenses.
      It all goes back to Jean Cauvin in Geneva who was a vindictive narcissist for starters. He made a religion that mirrored his own dark twisted heart and mind. As I came across every example (which was frequent) of his deceit and dictatorship so many "Ah Hah" moments that explained the wacky, weird, bizarre ideas and the hardness of hearts in the Calvinist/Reformed arena. It was not my idea to research him, never in millions of years. But I was lead by the Holy Spirit to do it and the hundreds of hours of work was worth it.
      A sense of peace came with the findings. There was reasons for all the mental instability, incest, perversions, name calling, family stresses from gossiping and infighting. It all stemmed from Jean Cauvin lawyer & humanist pretending to be a theologian but ignoring so much of the Bible.
      Oh, and that's another huge problem....deliberately blocking out or re-defining Scripture that didn't square with his own religion. I used to believe all the wonderful stories of what a great reformer and overall man he was. Well, all those stories are 100% lies. The Reformation would NEVER have happened with Cauvin at the helm.

  • @jaydiggidyable
    @jaydiggidyable 5 месяцев назад +284

    Speaking as a Calvinist, your satire is just as bad as ours.

    • @robertlee8519
      @robertlee8519 5 месяцев назад +23

      Oh now that hurts. That burns. Because everyone knows that Calvinist absolutely cannot meme at all lol😂😂😂😂

    • @regpharvey
      @regpharvey 5 месяцев назад +25

      @@robertlee8519 Well, to be fair, it's not their fault.

    • @GenericYoutubeGuy
      @GenericYoutubeGuy 5 месяцев назад +2

      Nononono you can’t say that before you’ve watched 20 Lutheran Satire videos!

    • @chrism2995
      @chrism2995 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@robertlee8519well given Calvinist like to burn those they disagree with… your response to his comment is rather fitting…

    • @eldermillennial8330
      @eldermillennial8330 4 месяца назад +1

      @@robertlee8519
      Except on economics; Adam Smith’s philosophy, the quintessential source of macro-capitalist memes. (HighChurch men really should all be micro-capitalists: down with the mega corporations! Back up with the cottage industries!)

  • @FreeBroccoli
    @FreeBroccoli 6 месяцев назад +192

    "I'll have you know my wife is a wonderful cook by definition. I am obligated to say everything she makes is good, no matter how terrible it is."

    • @PresbyterianPaladin
      @PresbyterianPaladin 6 месяцев назад +24

      "As must we all as we have been causally determined to do so, huzzah!"

  • @micahingram8625
    @micahingram8625 6 месяцев назад +221

    It's always a good day whem Lutheran Satire posts

    • @Pumpkinshire
      @Pumpkinshire 6 месяцев назад +6

      Did you show no Mercy were you cruel and unusual then it was good day! MR Lunt

    • @GenericYoutubeGuy
      @GenericYoutubeGuy 5 месяцев назад +1

      It’s back!

  • @nerdyyouthpastor8368
    @nerdyyouthpastor8368 6 месяцев назад +170

    I watched the video before I read the description. I assumed the joke was that Sir Calvin can't compliment his wife because he believes in total depravity.

    • @reecelastname1956
      @reecelastname1956 6 месяцев назад +1

      That would have made much more sense as a joke. Either she's just as ugly because of unconditional election, or she's not pretty because all our righteous works are filthy rags. Something like that. But I don't think a Lutheran pastor can make that joke, since Lutherans... get ready for it... because they also believe in predestination, election, and divine sovereignty so their theology has all the same implications.

    • @PaperBanjo64
      @PaperBanjo64 5 месяцев назад +49

      I was waiting the joke about 7 out of 10 children getting Christmas gifts to be the joke about predestination.

    • @nerdyyouthpastor8368
      @nerdyyouthpastor8368 5 месяцев назад +10

      @@PaperBanjo64 I'm sure it was. It just didn't get carried all that far.

    • @PaperBanjo64
      @PaperBanjo64 5 месяцев назад +26

      @nerdyyouthpastor8368 yeah, it needed to be better fleshed out, some have said making the kids eat in the other room was the predestination joke...I just want more Donnell and Connell and Frank the Hippie Pope videos.

    • @gusloader123
      @gusloader123 5 месяцев назад

      @nerdyyouthpastor8368 --- Nope. Martin Luther taught Total Depravity because both he, the Papists and all Protestants (especially the "Reformed" groups) follow Disgustin' Augustin of Hippo who is the one that cooked up that foul idea of "Birth Sin". "Total Depravity" (From the "Five Points of Calvinism") is believed by Lutherans.
      For the first five centuries of Christianity nobody taught "Birth Sin". Because of that rotten teaching, Lutherans practice infant baptism (sprinkling) to wash the infant's sins away. The infant has no sins. It is an infant about a week or two old. It has never sinned. {Sin means: "Missing the mark" as an archer aiming an arrow at the bullseye, letting the arrow fly but it hits the outer rings of the target instead. An infant cannot feed itself let alone string an arrow and let it fly.}

  • @slimshead8100
    @slimshead8100 6 месяцев назад +104

    Yeah, it’s like when I told my wife “my dear sweetheart. My love, my dove, my undefiled. Your looks are near tolerable.” For some reason, she ACTUALLY got upset. What’s up with that? I thought surely that would sweep her off her feet. Guess she’s not into all that romantic talk. See if I sweet talk her again if she isn’t going to appreciate it.

    • @Glyhnzel
      @Glyhnzel 5 месяцев назад +9

      Are you Mr Darcy and is she Elizabeth Bennet? 😂 "She's tolerable I suppose, but not handsome enough to tempt me."

    • @slimshead8100
      @slimshead8100 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Glyhnzel pretty much. Lol.

  • @TickedOffPriest
    @TickedOffPriest 6 месяцев назад +51

    I did not understand this until I saw the description. I am going to have to watch this a second time.

    • @thesot
      @thesot 6 месяцев назад +5

      You're doing the Lord's work here with your comment.

    • @averykempf9164
      @averykempf9164 5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, now I can go read the description.

    • @averykempf9164
      @averykempf9164 5 месяцев назад +8

      The joke is so funny after reading the description. My favorite line, that digs at Calvinism, is, "She makes the children sit in one room while telling them to eat in another room."
      It's like the Calvinst God saying, "Repent and believe.......but you can't because I have to give you faith first.......but you are responsible and will be punished for your lack of faith."

  • @nathanmcgill7249
    @nathanmcgill7249 6 месяцев назад +144

    Once again, LutheranSatire has taken an obscure theological irritant that most Christians probably don't give a passing thought to and turned it into a better written and funnier comedy sketch than 90% of what's on modern TV

    • @blindvision4703
      @blindvision4703 5 месяцев назад

      Could someone please explain this? I might KINDA get it, but I want to make sure. God bless!

    • @Michael-bk5nz
      @Michael-bk5nz 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@blindvision4703 I laughed all the way through because his "defense" of his wife is so absurd, but I don't get it, unless the joke is about total depravity, in which case that isn't really a big distinction with Luther.

    • @prayunceasingly2029
      @prayunceasingly2029 5 месяцев назад

      ​@Michael-bk5nz I guess if humanity is totally depraved, nothing good can be said about it and hence why sir calvin cannot say anything good about that wife of his?

    • @serak3403
      @serak3403 5 месяцев назад +7

      @blindvision4703 Calvinists (such as myself) are sometimes a bit stodgy about the total depravity thing, taking the application with them everywhere they go. Some are really like that, any attempt at a compliment will get you a reminder that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Others are not. My understanding is that Calvin himself was a jovial fellow and a patron of the arts, and most of the European puritans followed in his wake. The later phase of puritanism gave us both the navel-gazey variety of Calvinists and the common use of the term "puritan" and its connotations.

    • @blindvision4703
      @blindvision4703 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@serak3403 thanks for clarifying! I think I’ve found myself even falling into that sort of thing, and I don’t know whether it’s right for me to call myself a Calvinist or not. Thanks for the clarification and God bless. I know it’s technically taboo to explain a joke, but I wanted to confirm that I understood it, or correct or fully educate myself if I didn’t.

  • @mithrawnudo2152
    @mithrawnudo2152 6 месяцев назад +9

    This is the day the Lord has made! Let us rejoice and be glad in it!

  • @travist7777
    @travist7777 6 месяцев назад +42

    Uh, oh. Me thinks Han's accidentally ingested the wrong kind of mushrooms with this one...

  • @graydomn
    @graydomn 5 месяцев назад +82

    "You know how when you tell Calvinists that their theology is bad, instead of defending their theology, they tell you that your theology is just as bad as theirs?"
    I've never heard anyone do that.

    • @Aemery55
      @Aemery55 5 месяцев назад +11

      Hmmm, maybe you're a Calvinist then 😁

    • @PaperBanjo64
      @PaperBanjo64 5 месяцев назад +10

      The Calvinists I've heard would never call their theology bad.

    • @graydomn
      @graydomn 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Aemery55 Wow.

    • @HannahClapham
      @HannahClapham 5 месяцев назад +16

      @graydomn. Me neither. I usually love Lutheran Satire, but I must admit, this one left me scratching my head. I guess everyone strikes out once in a while!

    • @nicrosilmind
      @nicrosilmind 5 месяцев назад +5

      I have.
      “If the Calvinist view of God is evil, than the Molinist view of God is equally evil!”

  • @philodendron6
    @philodendron6 6 месяцев назад +24

    Delighted to see you back.

  • @nathanwesche
    @nathanwesche 6 месяцев назад +34

    Thank you. I thought the video was funny, but I'll be the first to admit that I didn't actually get the joke. Haha. I really do appreciate the quick explanation.

    • @gamingnovices5166
      @gamingnovices5166 6 месяцев назад +10

      I think it's a dig at Calvinism

    • @nathanwesche
      @nathanwesche 6 месяцев назад +3

      THAAANKS.... lol

    • @micahm7123
      @micahm7123 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@gamingnovices5166you see from the title I thought so too, but I can't figure out how

    • @gamingnovices5166
      @gamingnovices5166 6 месяцев назад +31

      @@micahm7123 I think it's making fun of how Calvinists try to defend God's honor while their very soteriological system makes God look kinda bad if taken to its logical conclusion

    • @asterglaceon
      @asterglaceon 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@micahm7123 read the description

  • @cco3
    @cco3 5 месяцев назад +17

    For those who don't get the joke, it's because when Lutherans say "Your atonement is limited; that's obviously bad," Calvinists often respond with "Our view of the atonement may be limited in scope, but yours is limited in efficacy."

    • @tmatthews0007
      @tmatthews0007 5 месяцев назад +3

      There are certain things that God cannot do. He is technically limited in some ways. For example God cannot sin. Man can sin, yet God cannot, does this somehow devalue him? Of course not! Gods limited atonement does not decrease his value.

    • @danielbowden5301
      @danielbowden5301 5 месяцев назад

      @@tmatthews0007 God can do whatever He pleases. To say that God "can't" lie, etc is not to say that He is limited. God does not have limits that prevent Him from lying, His own will/desire or values is what prevents Him from being vulnerable to sin NOT limitations. God won't sin because nothing can overpower Him to force Him to act against His own character. It is not saying that He is disabled from lying in the sense that He lacks the power to do so, He simply lacks the desire and due to His character, which never changes, that He will never ever have the desire even though He has the theoretical power to do so[it would be silly to say that He can not do what humans and possibly even animals can do].
      When the Bible says that God "can't" lie, the face value interpretation of that is in blatant contradiction to face value interpretation of other Scripture which affirms that God can do all things, that nothing is too difficult for Him, that none of His plans will be thwarted, and on and on. Therefore, we are forced to either affirm a contradiction, appeal to mystery, or to say that we can't accept the face value interpretation of the verses here. I've been accused of denying the Bible where it says that God can't lie, but I merely think that we ought not interpret it in the worst possible way[as if it were affirming unbelief in God's ability to do whatever He pleases]. I also wonder if the word translated to "can't" really means "can't" or if "won't" would be a better translation, but I have no idea what the original language says so I assume it means can't and that it is something like a hyperbole meant to express that evil is simply to abominable to Him to even consider to do, since the Bible says that God can do all things and we can't affirm the face value interpretation of both.

    • @aramrussell9851
      @aramrussell9851 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@tmatthews0007 It's not about valuing God. It's about how much God values us.

    • @andrewm5754
      @andrewm5754 4 месяца назад +1

      @tmatthews0007 So, following through with your analogy, God chose to not save everyone because it was something He could not do, because it goes against His character, against His very nature?

  • @elf1384
    @elf1384 5 месяцев назад +10

    "What about your outside stomach?"
    "DUDE!!!" 😂

    • @PaperBanjo64
      @PaperBanjo64 5 месяцев назад +2

      Is he calling her fat?

  • @PaperBanjo64
    @PaperBanjo64 5 месяцев назад +13

    More Donnell and Connell and Frank the Hippie Pope please!

  • @MrLemonsChannel
    @MrLemonsChannel 6 месяцев назад +31

    Wake up babe. Lutheran Satire has a new video

  • @greghannibal
    @greghannibal 6 месяцев назад +24

    I don't find myself in a lot of theology debates, actually, except for online Catholics.

    • @P-el4zd
      @P-el4zd 5 месяцев назад +8

      Lutherans have more in common with Catholics than most Protestant. I find myself in debates with Evangelicals/Baptist/Reformed.

    • @gusloader123
      @gusloader123 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@P-el4zd Then you are not a very good Lutheran.

    • @jamesmurray4466
      @jamesmurray4466 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@P-el4zd Yeah, but def, no. Just read bondage of the will by Luther. Its is a complete rebuke of the basis of the Catholic [something Luther mentioned] of salvation. Basically, to sum up, no one can turn to God or seeks to please him apart from the move of the Spirit in their lives first. This is 100% what every reformed protestant confession states. Also the authority of the church is beneath that of God's word. There is absolutely loads mate

    • @P-el4zd
      @P-el4zd 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@jamesmurray4466 Luther also said he’d rather drink blood with the Pope than wine (ocean spray grape juice for modern Calvinist/Zwinglians) than with Zwingli.
      Most Calvinist know of the Bandage of the Will, and if they read the book, it usually a translation with reformed introductions. The average internet Calvinist think Luther was basically a Calvinist. Luther clearly taught single predestination. The bondage of the will is not at odds with the book of concord.
      Calvinism is just one big piece of heterodoxy. The only letter in TULIP Lutherans would fully agree with is total depravity.

    • @jamesmurray4466
      @jamesmurray4466 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@P-el4zd I think you would find that Luther has very kind words to say about Calvin.
      Also you are wrong about the tulip.
      For example and this is just one, assurance! This was such a point of Luther that it was the main thing the council of Trent referred to as anathema.
      Luther taught that believers could be given assurance that they would go to heaven and that the Lord loved them

  • @douglascolquhoun8502
    @douglascolquhoun8502 5 месяцев назад +11

    Obviously, Sir Calvin needs to learn from Keith Foskey how to be nice.

    • @perilousrange
      @perilousrange 5 месяцев назад +1

      Harbor Freight Doug is best Doug.

  • @belzibubtom9546
    @belzibubtom9546 5 месяцев назад +3

    My brain is too small for this skit

  • @jalapeno.tabasco
    @jalapeno.tabasco 5 месяцев назад +4

    Lutherans are just halfway between papists and Calvinists

    • @ericphillips8268
      @ericphillips8268 5 месяцев назад +2

      the sweet spot, apparently

    • @littlefishbigmountain
      @littlefishbigmountain Месяц назад +1

      That was kinda the idea of the “reformation”, to “reform” Catholicism, not indirectly give rise to modern Evangelicalism and Oneness Pentecostalism and all the Restorationists. “Semper reformanda” in practice.

  • @jackcrow1204
    @jackcrow1204 5 месяцев назад +10

    As a calvinists i did find this funny but you know those Provisionist guys as are going to make this a real argument instead of recognizing it as a joke

    • @crisen_
      @crisen_ 5 месяцев назад +1

      True 😂😂 they would take anything for an argument or atheist just to disprove Calvinism

    • @briang3598
      @briang3598 5 месяцев назад +1

      Not sure if Hans thinks it's a joke...

    • @briangronberg6507
      @briangronberg6507 4 месяца назад

      Provisionist?

  • @user-hm4od3wu1z
    @user-hm4od3wu1z 6 месяцев назад +15

    They're back!!

  • @ChadWSmith
    @ChadWSmith 5 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you for explaining the joke. I thought the video was funny, but I had no idea what the reference was.

  • @robertlee8519
    @robertlee8519 5 месяцев назад +9

    I'm laughing that the Calvinists think this skit is a miss, while everyone else thinks it's spot on. That's hilarious to me

    • @TJamesBoone
      @TJamesBoone 5 месяцев назад +4

      Perhaps part of the reason we think it's a miss is because we don't think of our own theology as making us want to vomit "slightly less".

    • @robertlee8519
      @robertlee8519 5 месяцев назад

      @@TJamesBoone I wasn't really intending to make a comment on whether it was actually a miss or not. I don't want you to feel like I was attacking your stance or anything. I just thought the disconnect from the two perspectives was funny.

    • @robertlee8519
      @robertlee8519 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@TJamesBoone also to be fair I have seen a lot of Calvinists actively avoid making this kind of comparison that the joke skit is targeting. I know a lot of good Calvinist people that never make this comparison. On the other hand I've also experienced this particular situation, which allows me to kind of see both sides

    • @umaikakudo
      @umaikakudo 4 месяца назад +2

      Calvinists are weary having to deal with Arminians who refuse to stop tilting at strawman windmills while thinking they have cleverly refuted the genuine article.

    • @robertlee8519
      @robertlee8519 4 месяца назад

      @@umaikakudo non calvinists feel the same way. Especially about James White

  • @jonnarterius3163
    @jonnarterius3163 6 месяцев назад +14

    Great to have you around.
    \[T]/

    • @helwrecht1637
      @helwrecht1637 6 месяцев назад +2

      Now that’s an old emote

    • @Ramius117
      @Ramius117 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@helwrecht1637 fist bump? i still can't make it out

    • @jonnarterius3163
      @jonnarterius3163 5 месяцев назад +1

      @Ramius117 Used to be around when Dark Souls released. It's supposed to be a character (knight) Solaire. He would wander around looking basking in the radiance of the sun. It's supposed to be a knight helmet with hands raised.

  • @MrTexaspreacher
    @MrTexaspreacher 6 месяцев назад +11

    Naw man, keep this art. I want more of it.

  • @kristenwinkelmann1384
    @kristenwinkelmann1384 5 месяцев назад +3

    I almost woke a kid up when RUclips told me you had a new video. We enjoy your channel and I have incorporated some of your videos into my middle school and high school classes to good effect. My middle school logic students particularly loved Conall and Donall's bad analogies: "Because you can't have a strong analogy for the Blessed Trinity, because there is nothing like Him."

  • @cw-on-yt
    @cw-on-yt 5 месяцев назад +3

    I...actually can't relate to any of this. And I've debated Calvinists. I just don't recall them stating, in response to my critiques, that my view was "just as bad as theirs."
    Mostly they just tried to say their view was the only plausible interpretation of the relevant Scriptural data, so no matter how disconcerting some of their exegetical conclusions might seem, they _must_ be correct. (I think the Scriptural data _does_ admit other views, which is why I find this argument -- and the idea of Scriptural perspicuity -- unconvincing.)
    Also, the blonde chick ain't half-bad looking, for a cartoon. (But, I prefer brunettes, so....)

  • @deutschamerikaner
    @deutschamerikaner 5 месяцев назад +2

    As a Calvinist I do not understand. Maybe that's why?

  • @reformational
    @reformational 5 месяцев назад +9

    As a real Calvinist, I have never heard this was a thing. I wonder which "Calvinists" you're talking to. Anyway, still funny.

    • @P-el4zd
      @P-el4zd 5 месяцев назад +3

      Reformed Baptist?

    • @douglascolquhoun8502
      @douglascolquhoun8502 5 месяцев назад +5

      @Paul-el4zd Yeah, but we're not REALLY calvinists. Just ask Redeemed Zoomer.
      Besides, like Keith Foskey, many of us are nice.

    • @P-el4zd
      @P-el4zd 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@douglascolquhoun8502 I have to agree with redeemer zoomer, Baptist are not Calvinist, they are Calvinistic.

    • @douglascolquhoun8502
      @douglascolquhoun8502 5 месяцев назад +2

      @Paul-el4zd and Reformedish, depending on the "Particular" definition used.
      I myself am, almost literally, halfway between Particular Baptist and Calvinist Reformed in my beliefs. Square peg, all denominations are round holes.

    • @Minininja0412
      @Minininja0412 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@douglascolquhoun8502 Redeemed Zoomer is not the authority on who is or isn’t reformed. I personally call myself a reformed, calvinist, or particular Baptist because I think it is a helpful label. Baptist conveys Protestant with a Congregationalist ecclesiology. Calvinist/reformed/particular specifies my views on God’s sovereignty and soteriology. That’s how I see it anyway.

  • @andygainor4268
    @andygainor4268 5 месяцев назад +1

    Me, the Calvinist, wondering yesterday if LutheranSatire had posted anything lately. Then today seeing something posted today… Yes! Wait what?

  • @McSmitty69
    @McSmitty69 6 месяцев назад +4

    I should get the theology angle but I don't . Funny over all though .

  • @Procopius464
    @Procopius464 28 дней назад

    I have seen Calvinists argue like this. They say we believe in single predestination, and therefore the double predestination they believe in is implicit/the logical outgrowth.

  • @christophercarlson8691
    @christophercarlson8691 5 месяцев назад +4

    Okay, I hope this is the only time I ever have to defend Calvinism, but I've never actually experienced this. Is this a thing Calvinists do? I've been brought up among them, been to their schools, and my best friend is one. I think I would have run into this irl. Maybe it's an internet Calvinist thing?

    • @jenairothnie8796
      @jenairothnie8796 5 месяцев назад +3

      More internet discussions than in person, but I've encountered it in person too. It often happens when one brings up a point or claim of Calvinism that doesn't seem to mesh with scripture or logic. But rather than defend the point from scripture or logic, the Calvinist instead attacks whatever variety of non-Calvinism he's engaging with as having the same or a similar problem. (Just like the man, instead of defending his wife, attacks the other man's wife as equally bad.)
      'You don't find it Biblical that God would decree every evil that comes to pass? Well, you have the same problem in your view since God doesn't stop all evil.'
      'You have a problem with God passing some over for salvation? Well, not everyone is saved in your view, either!'
      'You don't think it would be in line with God's character for him to leave some people unable to ever believe? Well, you have the same problem since God took away Nebuchadnezzar's sanity!'
      'You say I'm interpreting John 6:44 out of context? Well, I also think your use of context is terrible!'
      Etc.

    • @jenairothnie8796
      @jenairothnie8796 5 месяцев назад

      One I just saw a few minutes ago. The question (not mine) in a discussion forum was on how can the gospel in Calvinism be a well-meant offer for everyone, if many people are not given the means to accept it, even though God could and gives those means to others?
      The Calvinist reply was, "There is no hope for those who don't want salvation. That much is true in both Calvinism and non-Calvinism alike."
      Note it didn't really answer the question or try to defend Calvinism, just appeal to non-Calvinism supposedly having the same issue.
      (Not even a true comparison, though, as in most varieties of non-Calvinism even those who reject the gospel now still have hope until the day they die, as Jesus is still the Savior and they may still repent and believe.)

  • @elishaj2977
    @elishaj2977 6 месяцев назад +9

    Yikes...former Calvinist here....whoo whee I feel this to my core.

  • @michaelmariano4747
    @michaelmariano4747 6 месяцев назад +7

    Its a good day today

  • @MrBrandosauce
    @MrBrandosauce 4 месяца назад +1

    I’m honestly confused about the premise here.

  • @WallDoc
    @WallDoc 4 месяца назад +1

    It's funny, but I'm not really sure how it's about Calvinists. I thought maybe it was teasing Total Depravity at first but that doesn't make sense with your description. I've never really heard Calvinists argue against Lutheranism by saying its worse with no defense of Calvinism. If anything, I've only ever heard that Luther was a confused Calvinist because Calvinists honor and respect him so much.

  • @SextonRay
    @SextonRay 6 месяцев назад +3

    Great video, Pastor Hans!

  • @jeremychambers
    @jeremychambers 5 месяцев назад +3

    This is basically a christianized-parody of a Fire Emblem support conversation…

  • @roberthart6434
    @roberthart6434 4 месяца назад +1

    Are you saying that Luther and Calvin are the grooms of their respective church and not Christ?
    Or are you just pointing out that Lutherans have to much pride to see their faults or learn from their mistakes?
    Either way, seems like a weird flex.

  • @mostawesomestnamever
    @mostawesomestnamever 5 месяцев назад +2

    While the art and line delivery is interesting (reminds me of a Joel Haver skit) the script might as well have been created by AI as much as the art.
    I have never heard of seen anyone defend reformed theology by accusing the other's theology as just as bad as their own.

    • @jenairothnie8796
      @jenairothnie8796 5 месяцев назад

      I encounter it at least once a month where a Calvinist 'defends' Calvinism not by an appeal to logic/scripture but by attacking other views as equally problematic or having the same or worse dillemnas.
      One from yesterday: The question (not mine) in a discussion forum was on how can the gospel in Calvinism be a well-meant offer for everyone, if many people are not given the means to accept it, even though God could and gives those means to others?
      The Calvinist's reply was, "There is no hope for those who don't want salvation. That much is true in both Calvinism and non-Calvinism alike."
      Note it didn't really answer the question or try to defend Calvinism, just appeal to non-Calvinism supposedly having the same issue.
      (Not even a true comparison, though, as in most varieties of non-Calvinism even those who reject the gospel now still have hope until the day they die, as Jesus is still the Savior and they may still repent and believe.)
      And even in the comments under this video there are a couple examples, such as Calvinist claiming non-Calvinists have the same dillemna (as God being potentially unjust to pass over some for salvation) since God creates some people knowing they will reject Christ and end in hell.
      It's another example of not directly defending one's view but just making a fallacious tu quoque attack that another view is equally problematic. (And it isn't even at that, since there are many potential moral and sufficient reasons for God to create someone even knowing they will reject Christ.)

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar 4 месяца назад +1

    Did John Calvin actually invent the doctrines that are named after him? Augustine would disagree. Augustine, and Calvin, would both say that neither of them invented them, they are what the bible teaches.
    Furthermore, I'm not sure what a Lutheran is getting at here. Martin wrote 'Bondage of the Will' in reply to Erasmus. In it, Luther spells out that the most important complaint the Protestants have against Rome is that Rome teaches that mankind has the ability to decide to come to salvation in Christ. Luther says in 'Bondage of the Will' that the bible teaches that we are all in bondage to sin and do not even have the ability to choose to believe in Jesus. God must intervene on our behalf.

  • @scottecklund1965
    @scottecklund1965 5 месяцев назад +1

    Would love to hear your actual theological disagreements with Calvinism.

  • @purelightapologetics4930
    @purelightapologetics4930 6 дней назад

    I think the joke is that Calvinists tend to point the finger at other beliefs and say that they are terrible while also saying that they are very similar to their own.

  • @austintucker394
    @austintucker394 5 месяцев назад +2

    I don't get it. I don't see the lesson here.

  • @oddtalon11235
    @oddtalon11235 5 месяцев назад +4

    I'll be honest, I don't get many Calvinists telling me my theology is bad. They tend to explain to me how their theology, which usually hinges on a couple of unorthodox translations of words. Still a bop of a video though.

    • @PaperBanjo64
      @PaperBanjo64 5 месяцев назад

      Most Calvinists would rather tell you that you disagree with them because the TULIP and double predestination and God choose who He will save and who will be damned is just such a harsh truth foe fallen sinners to accept.

  • @Ransomed77
    @Ransomed77 5 месяцев назад +2

    Even as a Calvinist I find your humor brilliant! By the way I'm only a "4-pointer" which I guess makes me a "1-point-non-Calvinist"? 😁

    • @chrisvanallsburg
      @chrisvanallsburg 5 месяцев назад +2

      The Amyraldian scheme? Just go the whole way man! Libertarian free will FTW 😇

    • @Ransomed77
      @Ransomed77 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@chrisvanallsburg Or, as R.C. Sproul famously called 4-pointers "Arminians," whether it's limited atonement, unconditional election, or hypothetical universalism (sufficient for all, but efficient only for the elect), or the debate on God's sovereignty versus free will, I don't believe one needs to subscribe 100% wholeheartedly to any one school of thought. Two points that appear opposite to each other can both be true. This is what a Scottish pastor once called "Truth in tension." He likens it to the necessity of cables on a suspension bridge pulling equally in opposite directions to keep the entirety of the bridge up.

  • @scottthong9274
    @scottthong9274 5 месяцев назад +1

    This just brings me back to those good old 80s adventure gamebooks

  • @GogakuOtaku
    @GogakuOtaku 5 месяцев назад +2

    First Lutheran Satire in 6 months?!?! 🙌 🙌 🙌

  • @InspiringPhilosophy
    @InspiringPhilosophy 5 месяцев назад +1

    It’s a crime that you don’t post more.

    • @JeP-lz4ti
      @JeP-lz4ti 5 месяцев назад

      IP becoming Lutheran? ❤

  • @echoingerudite205
    @echoingerudite205 6 месяцев назад +3

    Oh yeah this channel still exists and I'm still subscribed to it. Crazy I wonder how I could have forgotten that, it's a mystery 😐😶😶‍🌫️

  • @ThumbKnuckle
    @ThumbKnuckle 5 месяцев назад +1

    Still working on Athanasius vs Arius I presume.

  • @TrailToughTrailers
    @TrailToughTrailers 5 месяцев назад +1

    That is right up there with, "My wife stinks pretty"

  • @FRodriguez_
    @FRodriguez_ 6 месяцев назад +1

    Took me a while to get the point, this is just wonderful!

  • @onothankyou
    @onothankyou 5 месяцев назад +1

    Her name being "Geneva" is *chef's kiss".
    Also, this is all Calvinism discussions.

  • @mechengineer4life
    @mechengineer4life 5 месяцев назад +1

    I would love to know who this is satyrizing?

    • @jenairothnie8796
      @jenairothnie8796 5 месяцев назад +1

      The discussion tactic where if someone points out a potential problem with Calvinism, some Calvinists don't defend with a scripture or clarify, but instead targets the other person/view and claims they have the same problem/dillemna or an equal problem.
      Hence Sir Calvin "defending" his betrothed not by insisting she is beautiful but by telling the other guy his wife is equally ugly.

    • @mechengineer4life
      @mechengineer4life 5 месяцев назад

      @@jenairothnie8796 thanks for explaining. I'm glad I've never run into this before.... what a pathetic "defense".

  • @_TW199
    @_TW199 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is destined to be great.

    • @PaperBanjo64
      @PaperBanjo64 5 месяцев назад +1

      Predestined!

    • @perilousrange
      @perilousrange 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@PaperBanjo64Double predestined.

  • @blastum
    @blastum 6 месяцев назад +7

    I am afraid that this has gotten past my experience with Calvinism. I've not seen them say that their theology is bad but ours is just as bad.

    • @silverwriter6739
      @silverwriter6739 6 месяцев назад +8

      I see it with them all the time.
      "You think my god is evil for deliberately choosing to predestine people to hell? YOUR God wants to save everybody but CAN'T!!!!!"

    • @blastum
      @blastum 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@silverwriter6739 I gotta get out more!

    • @lectorintellegat
      @lectorintellegat 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@silverwriter6739Except that’s not what Calvinists are doing. They’re pointing out that IF your argument holds, it works against you, too. Ie. You’re being inconsistent.
      Take your ‘evil for predestining people to hell’. If Lutherans believe that God has perfect foreknowledge and is impassible, then by NECESSITY you believe that God deliberately created some knowing they would end up in hell, before they did anything at all.
      Your choices are: accept that your dilemma isn’t one, and other moral concerns prevail against your judgement. OR abandon prior theological convictions, vis. the doctrine of God.

    • @Baltic_Hammer6162
      @Baltic_Hammer6162 5 месяцев назад +2

      I grew with Purest Calvinism 24/7 for 20 years then part time the next 40. Since they have the one and only true religion, they have unlimited license to trash anyone's belief that's not 100% in lockstep with their purity. Dysfunctional doesn't begin to describe the mess.

    • @SvanTowerMan
      @SvanTowerMan 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@silverwriter6739I'm Calvinist and have just accepted that free will doesn't truly exist.

  • @turperper
    @turperper 6 месяцев назад +3

    no way, a new lutheransatire? AND it makes fun of calvinists?

  • @joelmole3157
    @joelmole3157 6 месяцев назад +3

    Woooo they’re back!

  • @WilliamSwartzendruber
    @WilliamSwartzendruber 5 месяцев назад

    I just finished reading the Westminster Confession of Faith. Same energy.

  • @bradenhogan2
    @bradenhogan2 5 месяцев назад +1

    Swing and a miss on that one!

  • @ClayMcDermott
    @ClayMcDermott 5 месяцев назад +1

    Can someone explain this joke to me?

  • @Phill0old
    @Phill0old 5 месяцев назад +1

    I literally can't see what it is on about, that's not what I see happening at all.

  • @person6768
    @person6768 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm a Calvinist, honestly I don't think I get it. But we can be kind of mean not like that which is why I'm assuming this is some joke I don't get. Maybe a straw man I don't understand. But we can be mean. Except Keith Foskey 🎶 He's not like most Calvinist he's nice. 🎶

  • @FollowersofTheShepherd
    @FollowersofTheShepherd 6 месяцев назад +8

    😂This is amazing

  • @calebklingerman7902
    @calebklingerman7902 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t get it

  • @carissstewart3211
    @carissstewart3211 5 месяцев назад +2

    *laughs in Catholicism*

  • @NathanaelStottlemyer
    @NathanaelStottlemyer 5 месяцев назад +2

    Lutheran Satire, please point to where I can throw money for actual art for the videos and I'll do it.

  • @jonathanspeicher5298
    @jonathanspeicher5298 5 месяцев назад +1

    As a Calvinist, I really don't know what you're talking about. 🤷

  • @HeadCannon1776
    @HeadCannon1776 5 месяцев назад +1

    remember bros before marrying her make you sure she is actually worth defending

  • @acekoala457
    @acekoala457 5 месяцев назад +1

    Is this about Predestination or Ecumenism?

  • @ctvtmo
    @ctvtmo 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don't get it. Though I did like the sword fight scene.

  • @javacodeman
    @javacodeman 5 месяцев назад +1

    Funny video, but I don’t know any Calvinist that does that.

  • @SantaFe19484
    @SantaFe19484 5 месяцев назад +1

    Is this how Calvinists respond to Lutheranism, or all "non-Calvinists"?

    • @PaperBanjo64
      @PaperBanjo64 5 месяцев назад +1

      Most Calvinists love Martin Luther

  • @Outrider74
    @Outrider74 6 месяцев назад +1

    Help me out here: I think I’m missing the point of this one
    ADDENDUM: Just saw the explanation. Now I get it. Took me a little time and reading comprehension.

    • @meofamily4
      @meofamily4 6 месяцев назад

      You're not alone, Outrider. The description gives a sort of explanation, but that still seems less than coherent.

    • @Outrider74
      @Outrider74 6 месяцев назад

      @@meofamily4 Ohhhhhhh... now I get it. As an ex-Calvinist, I figured I'd be a little quicker on the draw than I was. Now I understand

  • @ChristyOFaghan
    @ChristyOFaghan 5 месяцев назад +1

    I thought this was more a critique of professing Christians defaming the Church so as to find common ground with unbelievers, but now I realise it was a slight at Calvinists I don't get it.

  • @jamessharp9040
    @jamessharp9040 5 месяцев назад +3

    we waited six months for this

  • @cco3
    @cco3 6 месяцев назад +5

    I think you've mistaken "bad" for "offensive". When one begins by making man's evaluation the standard rather than God's, it is a fair retort to point out that the contending position can be framed just as offensively to human sensibilities (Proverbs 26:5).

  • @SpendingAddict
    @SpendingAddict 5 месяцев назад +1

    I realise this has got something to do with Calvinism but I just don't get it.

  • @TheProgressingPilgrim
    @TheProgressingPilgrim 5 месяцев назад +2

    I kinda assumed this was about total depravity and limited election, not how they react to when ppl say their theology is bad

  • @rscottr
    @rscottr 5 месяцев назад +2

    Wherein Hans memorializes an obscure Twitter beef.

  • @MothyEmms
    @MothyEmms Месяц назад

    This calvinist found this video hilarious

  • @user-ks5cg5cd7m
    @user-ks5cg5cd7m 5 месяцев назад +1

    I was thinking this is a type of argument I hear often. People degrade someone else’s argument or character rather than defending their own. They get lost in the problems, even their own, without taking time to examine the essentials of the things. Kind of a weird twist. Funny, even if I didn’t get how it applied to theological arguments.

  • @LeoxandarMagnus
    @LeoxandarMagnus 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wonderful joke!

  • @dugroz
    @dugroz 5 месяцев назад +1

    Calvin is jacked and Mrs. Calvin is looking pretty good, esp. after 10 kids!

  • @Glyhnzel
    @Glyhnzel 5 месяцев назад

    How on earth did I misread the title as "the Almost Giant"??! It completely messed me up while watching the video. Will have to watch it again now. Pregnancy brain is real and absolutely ruining things for me 😂

  • @blackukulele
    @blackukulele 2 месяца назад

    What is bad about Calvinism?

  • @abbyschubert5637
    @abbyschubert5637 4 месяца назад +1

    Too many unenthused here in the comments; this is gold! By this line of arguing the Calvinist outs himself as seeing all theology through a slightly dismal lens…
    Also the credits, “if you don’t like me using AI artwork give me money so I don’t have to” 🤣😂

  • @nicholasshaler7442
    @nicholasshaler7442 5 месяцев назад

    I don’t like MidJounrey, but it’s a lot better than those wild computer voices that you used for Things Your Lutheran Pastor Really Loves.

  • @Salinated
    @Salinated 3 месяца назад

    I love this XD

  • @dawnmichelle4403
    @dawnmichelle4403 6 месяцев назад +2

    Huzzah!

  • @SMJ0hnson
    @SMJ0hnson 5 месяцев назад +1

    Sweet Geneva!
    Also, Ur Th3oloGY is bAd….
    And is means is.

  • @clarinetcantata
    @clarinetcantata 6 месяцев назад +4

    Yay! A new video!

  • @Joel-bg3cf
    @Joel-bg3cf 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can’t say I’ve ever said my theology was bad to take someone down… hmmm

    • @Toetalwar
      @Toetalwar 5 месяцев назад +1

      must not be a calvinist then. good work

    • @Joel-bg3cf
      @Joel-bg3cf 5 месяцев назад

      @@Toetalwar I am

  • @kenroc546
    @kenroc546 5 месяцев назад

    Epic come back.

  • @Scum_and_Villainy
    @Scum_and_Villainy 5 месяцев назад

    Love your videos, was just confirmed in the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod