Donall and Conall Meet the Mormon Missionaries
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Our fifth century Irish peasant friends are slightly skeptical about Mormonism's claim to be the one true church.
For Donall and Conall's first appearance, go here: • St. Patrick's Bad Anal...
You forgot to mention how that if the True Church ceased to exist, that means the gates of hell prevailed against It- which Christ explicitly promised would not happen.
+Michael Rex Very good point. Sometimes the answer is front of us. Just got to look for it. God bless you. :)
somebodyelseathome
One similar point. By the same logic, Lutherans can't be the True Church, because they didn't exist until the 16th century.
Pax,
A Latin-Rite Catholic.
By the same logic, roman catholicism cannot be the True Church since it didn't exist for hundreds of years after Christ.
The True Church is the wheat among the tares, the sheep among the goats. God knows His own, and His sheep hear His voice. Your man-made institution is decrepit and has ordered assassinations on heads of state, toasted the devil, and killed born again Christians through the centuries as "heretics", it is drunk with the blood of the saints (The REAL saints, not some roman approved roster of dark age nobel prize winners)
I have news for you. Christ Himself founded the Catholic Church. "Roman Catholic" (or "Latin Catholic") is merely a Rite of the Church (albeit, the preeminent Rite, founded by HH St. Peter).
So, no- by my logic, far from the Catholic Church being excluded from possibility, the only Church that has a possibility of being Christ's Church is the Catholic Church.
Oh- and just so you know, the term "Catholic Church" was in use at least as early as the second century, and likely as early as the A.D. 60s (or slightly before). ...not exactly "hundreds of years after Christ".
Michael Rex
Your church membership will not save you, the Only Way is Jesus, who said "I AM the Way" The True Church is the body of Christ, the Bride of Christ, the wheat among the weeds, the sheep among the goats. Stop idolizing your vain culture and tradition and cling to the hem of His garment in repentance.
A Mormon ad showed up on this video. Oh, the irony.
Rather than asking why there are so many Mormon ads, shouldn't we instead be asking why there are so few Catholic and Protestant ads?
@@MrBenMcLean Because you don't need to advertise if people already know the value you possess.
@@ObjectsInMotion great. You want some?
LOL
Did you know that the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints actually took a full page ad in the Book of Mormon Broadway show?
A show fully dedicated to mock the entire thing.
As a Christian from the North Of Ireland this is hilarious whilst still making a serious point. Well done guys still laughing my legs off. Please give us some more of these two Irish Brethren lol.
Poblacht na hÉireann? no Tuiscart Éireann?
imagine this could this be a silly but educational way to put heretics in their places!!!!!
Somebody should make a movie about the disciple whom Jesus loved and how he wonders the wildernesses of north America and is sometimes mistaken for Big Foot.
i know this comment is old but it would be a great movie make leo DiCaprio john the baptist it would be similar to the revenant lol
Oh yes it is completely absurd to think that a messenger from God may interene in events in people's lives. I mean, that would be a miracle, and we know those are impossible.
Thanks for showing that you have no credibility regarding LDS theology.
John the Baptist is more a missing link like Sasquatch than John the revelator. No Jesus & his disciples are still of men, with the Savior is redeemed to His eternal perfection.
The fact that John is not dead is in the gospel of John. Make fun of the New Testament and stop making fun of Mormons. Mormons did not make it up.
I can't wait to meet Brothers Donall and Conall in the Kingdom of God!
Hey, I tip my hat to the Mormons for their charity, but I think we should have a discussion with them about their beliefs.
+Seamus Kennefick their charity is focused mainly on their own members and it pales to other organizations and churches like the Catholic Church.
+Seamus Kennefick they give 0.7% yearly for the poor..cheap bastards!!
Don Ormsby They do nothing compared to what Catholic and protestant charities do. Especially when you consider the LDS's net worth. Where is their nationwide health network helping the sick and poor? Oh, there is no profit in it!!! The LDS helps only those they want to prey on. The LDS owns hotels, shopping centers and video production houses, but nothing to help the sick and indigent. LDS prophets are all about the PROFIT!!!
Don Ormsby Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Mormons use welfare like drug dealers use free drugs to get people hooked. As far as the net worth of the church, I don't have an exact figure because the LDS is as secret as the Costra Nostra but you can look up the value of LDS holdings like the Marriott Hotel chain, Bonneville productions and get a pretty good idea. When you figure dollars per member with a true estimate of around 9 million members, not 14 million as advertised, the LDS do more than hold their own. Still there are no LDS hospitals. Mormons do nothing without strings attached, especially with their own members. I know too well, first hand.
Don Ormsby WRONG. That so called chain of hospitals was only 3. But they don't have them any more, the weren't profitable. Face it pal, as far as charity is concerned, the LDS have missed the bus compared to other faiths. Its sad that you have to make excuses for your church's poor showing in helping anyone but a Mormon, and you don't do that very well either. My Mormon friends say their ward is more interested in getting their 10% than anything else. That leaves the LDS lots of room for improvement. Why don't you look into it.
EVERYONE IS PATRICK. ACCEPT IT.
I Patrick. You Patrick. He, She, Me Patrick. Patrick. Patrick Wing.
Like everyone down under is Bruce.
Not robot. He is a drum machine.
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Good job Patrick!
You finally got it down Patrick!
Donall and Conall need their own youtube channel.
Except they'd insist on being called ELDER Kyle and ELDER Trevor, or ELDER Patrick, or whatever.
Daniel J. Phillips "Elder" is an office of the Priesthood of the Church. It is conferred when a worthy male turns eighteen. It is the first office of the Melchizedek Priesthood. The other branch is the Aaronic Priesthood.
Hello, my name is Elder Price, and I would like to share with you the most amazing book.
Not all Latter Day Saints treat priesthood offices as ranks progressed through based on ages. In the RLDS church and its derivatives, ordination to the priesthood may or may not follow at any above a certain typical minimum age, and becoming an elder does not necessarily follow from becoming a deacon or priest.
@@MrBenMcLean did you know, Alice Cooper's grandfather was the RLDS leader 60 years ago?
Dont you mean PATRICK Patrick?
Please, oh please keep Donall and Conall as regulars!
Lutheran Satire is savage, Patrick
As a Mormon, I agree.
@@Saint_nobody Please leave that false cult brother, I hope you will reject that heresy
Just watched it with the English captions on. Looks like youtube still can't tell what Donall and Conall are saying.
ROFL. I love this. Cults never think they are cults. But when you rewrite the Bible and don't look at the historical accuracy of it you can believe anything I guess.
So ignorant. Unbelievable. Mormons are not stupid. You are not even close to what they believe.
It would seem you can also believe anything when you DO believe the Bible is historically accurate. Do we need to go over Genesis again to get my point across?
@@LarsPallesen Genesis is true. Everything in Genesis happened
@@LarsPallesen please go over Genesis again and make your point. Because I think you have no real point.
Galatians 1:8
8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
***** To make it simple The gospel, or Good news is very simple. Humans beings broke God's law; God being both just and loving wanted to release human being from their sins but cannot let people off the hook, that would be unjust. To reconcile the entire world of their sins God begot Jesus to be perfect and a just sacrifice for the whole world's sins. John:3:16 By having a perfect sacrifice God can redeem every human being who accepts this gift and becomes born again.John 3:3
***** Isn't that why Jesus said to preach the gospel? Certainly those willing to be saved can be, but first they need to know who Jesus was and the meaning of the Gospel. How can Jehovah be responsible for sin? Is that the strawman arguement where he created Satan and then Satan fell?
So you do use that God made satan and satin became evil deal? That's like saying you raise a child in a loving perfect environment and they go do something bad that is somehow the parent's fault. That is not logic, that is freewill.
***** How can one totaly ensure obidience and loyalty from their soldiers in battle? The way I see it is as long as there is freewill nad conciousness involved there is no way to ensure loyalty. Even people in great power were killed by those he trusted like ceaser he was stabbed to death in the Roman Senate on March 15th, 44 BC. I'm sure you know the story. No amount of discipline or respect can stop someone's pride, as is the case with Satan and his fall. Yahweh being Just wouldn't make the Angels all obidient slave zombies and gave them free will, just like human beings. If you can quote sun tzu can I quote spiderman? with great power comes great responsibility. If we have the power to choose I would expect a Just God to hold our decisions under a microscope because we have much responsibility. I'm assuming you are an ex christian or possibly an atheist, however I pray to Jehovah for your spirit. I'm sure it isn't what you want to hear, but it is NEVER too late to turn back to faith in God.
***** I know that very sin. I too thought I was unsaved because of it, however it is not what you think. There is no unforgiveable sin. I thought I blasphemed the holy spirirt by calling it profanity. however, Mark 3:28 states: Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
It is unequivocally clear that the one unforgivable sin is permanently rejecting Christ (John 3:18; 3:36). Thus, speaking against the Holy Spirit is equivalent to rejecting Christ with such finality that no future repentance is possible. 'My spirit shall not always strive with man,' God said long ago (Genesis 6:3).
I felt a burning in my bosom after watching this. :)
Must have been heartburn...
that was heatburn :)
Yeah that's completely absurd, but pentacostals spouting random syllables and rolling around on the floor isn't?
Benjamin McLean they both are 🤣
Burning of the bosom is from Luke 24:32. The amazing ignorance of anti Mormons.
As a Christian who believes all believers of ANY denomination are part of the body of Christ, I have thought and prayed often when it comes to Mormons and Jehovah witnesses. We are told to love the sinner and hate the sin. With that in mind I have realized it is there doctrines I do not like, not their actual members.
Daniel Williamson "We are told to love the sinner and hate the sin" by Gandhi, not Christ. Just a bit of clarification.
Start by recognizing them, not as Christians denominations but as false religions… You know why? Because I wouldn't tell you to do the same with Roman Catholicism...
It's because they don't believe in the Trinity, the hypostatic union (two natures of Christ), and they reject all decisions of the ancient church councils and spit on the writings of the fathers...
That's what makes someone, or at least someone's denomination "Christian".
That means that Roman Catholics, Lutherans, Eastern Orthodox, Reformed Protestants, Anglicans, American Evangelicals (at least for now)... Are all Christian.
Please make more Donall and Conall videos.
I just now realized that the intro music is "I Bind Unto Myself Today"...
Bruh 1:28 - 1:40 caught me so off guard that I literally could not stop laughing for like 2 and a half minutes
It just struck me today that the music in all the Donall and Conall videos sounds like "I Bind unto Myself Today."
Love it! These two imaginary characters are a brilliant idea. Keep up the good work. Like someone else mentioned do one for the JW's, SDA's, and RCC.
I never knew about this little nugget of their theology. Another feather in my cap. The quip at the end was great.
These never get old!
Perhaps the best D and C video ever. Ever ever. I love these guys, and the Hans Fiene guy who makes them up.
"Official meet and greet" - lol
"We'll convert as soon as he does."
ZING.
Alex Reams the Mormon claim is that Jesus's Apostles and Mormons are the same faith. Both are The church of Christ
Donall and Conall meet John Calvin!
Mormonism teaches that God the father was once human like us, was created by another god ( who is one of trillions of gods) had to work his way up to godhood, and that we can become gods ourselves if we do everything right. I know this cause I used to be a mormon.
Anyways your next video should be about that.
Can I work my way up to being a Patrick?
lol there's no way that's true :') Please tell me that's a joke
@@Eraktab I wish it was
Jesus said you are gods. So I guess he was not Christian, he was closer to Mormons. They wanted to kill him for saying this so obviously he was not talking about judges as lame Protestants claim.
@@iloveutah5584 Jesus wasn't being literal when he quoted that verse from Psalms.
It was using it to make a point
I need more a yer satire, Patrick. I jus' can't keep goin' about wit out it. Just what we need, more wit in da Church, Patrick!
The wit and attitude cracks me up
As a former life long Mormon, now LCMS Lutheran, this is the best! The Batman reference at the end was brilliant!
Michael Steven Not that bright are you? Especially sporting that pentagram ..
Michael Steven You really want to go there? Okay, you asked for it..
Acts 7:42-50 J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS)
41-43 In those days they even made a calf, and offered sacrifices to their idol. They rejoiced in the work of their own hands. So God turned away from them and left them to worship the Host of Heaven, as it is written in the book of the prophets, ‘Did you offer me slaughtered animals and sacrifices during forty years in the wilderness, O house of Israel? Yes, you took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, images which you made to worship; and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.’
Pay special attention here to "tabernacle of Moloch" and "the STAR of Remphan." This represents WORSHIP of a symbol. The Star of Remphan (an Egyptian god and idol) is the pentagram. Ask any scholar you like. Any scholar that attempts to refute this, is incompetent. Ask a witch. Ask a Luciferian. Ask a Satanist (especially within a circle, inverted or not). [1] Those that try to equate the Star of David, a six pointed star. with the Star of Remphan, five points, five in the Hebrew, the number representing death. They are mistaken. If they persist in their mistake, then they certainly pine to be among the incompetent.
Do your own research genius. I have consulted with a former Satanist on this. That is the Church of Satan. Anton Lavey, standing with this individual, presenting him with his certificate of membership. Oh, this individual is no longer a Satanist, a witch, a high elder of the Temple of the LDS, a 90th degree Memphis Rite Freemason, an old Roman Church priest, an actual vampire. No, I'm not making up a single thing here. Verify all this for yourself. That is, if you can ..
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[1] "As above, so below." What happens to a pentalpha in a reflection pool?
A FORMER satanist moron! Why don't you look up Bill Schnoebelen. Why don't YOU look up Anthony "Jessy" LaVey. That would be the son of Anton LaVey. There is a recording of him describing what happened to him, at a very early age, during a satanic ritual. He describes who was also there. Some very high level people in today's society. He has filed an affidavit to this effect. Do you know what an affidavit is? Seriously, utube should not allow 12 years old to comment. You are way too short for this ride.
Well, Mike and Fooser, glad you 2 are keeping things civil.
Love You Jesus.
See, what I've also found is that supposedly a battle took place in New York a long time ago in the book of Mormon. Mormon was Moroni's father who was in the battle. Except here's the rub. No connections linguistically or through bloodline actually place the American Indian to Judaism. And if you want to place a small group of Indians to connect with the Jews then it's simply not what Moroni told Joseph Smith. So you have 3 options, Moroni didn't exist. Or he lied to Joseph Smith or Joseph Smith made a mistake in saying the Native Americans were descendants of Lamanites.
Chris Epperson Of course, there is the question of whether that's Mormon doctrine, or whether it's just custom or tradition.
But somehow I'm willing to bet Smith didn't have multilayer distinctions for the spew he spewed.
ChesterKhan Plus there's one more issue, MAJOR issue. In Luke 13:33, Jesus says that it is "impossible" for a prophet to die outside Jerusalem. Joseph Smith died where?
Chris Epperson I think you took that one out of context.
Did Daniel die in Jerusalem, for example?
Also, I believe it was spoken ironically, rather than literally. I seem not to be alone:
biblehub.com/commentaries/luke/13-33.htm
There are 9 prophets never called Navi in Hebrew. Navi means prophet.
1. Hosea
2. Joel
3. Amos
4. Obadiah
5. Jonah
6. Micah
7. Nahum
8. Zephaniah
9. Malachi
In the Babylonian Talmud, Daniel is not considered a prophet. If you consider them an authority.
So it is safe for me to say that Jerusalem has killed all the prophets.
However, I just learned something new. Thank you, BTW I love the quote by GK Chesterton, the modern revolutionist.
Chris Epperson
Me, too. So much wisdom in so fat and happy a man. :-P
Unfortunately, my friend, you're hamstringing yourself here. So the Talmud doesn't include Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel (who died in Babylon), or any of the other major prophets as prophets? Very perceptive of them.
Besides, we have no obligation to follow the counsels of Jews - especially since the church was doing its own thing by the time the Talmud was composed (c 500 AD). Only 50 years before we were discussing the nature of Christ at the Council of Chalcedon.
Actually, in point of fact, we were using a different version of Scriptures - the Greek LXX, not the Hebrew. Jesus quoted from that version, as did Paul and all the Apostles in their letters and exhortations. Nothing special. No different from quoting the KJV or the RSV or the NIV nowadays. The Jews went back to using the Hebrew, in protest against the Christian Church.
Or, consider the parable of the wicked tenants, in Matthew's Gospel: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+21%3A33-41&version=RSVCE
Just as the Jews killed their own prophets - from Cain to Korah, from Saul to Jeroboam. So they went on to kill the Prophet of Prophets, the King of Kings, the Priest of Priests.
This is great stuff. My only request is that you put all voices in both ears, but if you want to have them at different levels in each one, that would give a similar effect that is less jarring.
Ok not sure if you are going to appreciate this or not, but I was a Mormon missionary in Minnesota and so there were tons of Lutherans there. After my mission I went to St. Thomas and obtained a degree. I could not understand Lutherans until I got a Catholic degree. Being a Mormon, I did not understand the context. So I moved back to Utah and took the small catechism from a Missouri synod Lutheran pastor. Here is the deal. Missouri synod Lutherans can be really smart and some of them really know their bibles, but to be honest God has chosen the Mormons. The spirit is obvious. At least for me. But hey thanks for these videos they really brought back memories and being smart is not a bad thing, but you need the spirit also. Peace be unto you.
There is something so funny about the phrase "freshly rebooted apostolic roster"
I think the point here is that The Book of Mormon is not considered scripture. Sorry but that's kind of the Elephant in the room.
Not to mention all those armored elephants that supposedly ran around North America.
I love my LDS friends but we are not siblings of faith.
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HAHA, Patrick, haha.
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Hahaha, Patrick.
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Interesting note.
So does St John get CCed on emails to the Quorum?
Yes. But they always wind up in the spam box. Plus, through no fault of his own, he's locked out of his email. Besides, he rarely checked such anyways, being busy and all with the "tap dancing on the yak manure".
On a more personal note, I found your channel through a discord server wherein nearly everyone hates me simply because I'm a Mormon. But they can all fuck off, your shit is funny and this video in particular does cause me to think some. Which is great.
Enough rambling on though. God love you, sir. Keep the jokes coming!
Peter James and JOHN gave the priesthood and the Apostleship to Joseph Smith. Look the bible implies that Jesus was going to let John not die. You can interpret it either way but Mormons did not make it up. It is in the bible.
@@iloveutah5584 So...if you believe he is still alive, where is he and what's he doing? Why isn't he part of the twelve?
Unfortunately, Donall and Conall teach more sound theology than a plethora of pulpits all across my land...
I would love to see one addressing Jehovah Witnesses. Keep up the good work.
yes! we need it!
It's available now.
This should be called Donnal and Connal ROAST the Mormons
They did not roast the Mormons. They used straw men. Type in salvation Fair Mormon if you want an intellectual rebuttal. I doubt very much that the Missouri synod could send out 100,000 missionaries. They are missionaries not theologians. Go to Fair Mormon if you want Mormon theologians. Pick on somebody your own size.
You sure you're not Catholic? I'm getting a lot more Catholic sounding content from Donall and Conall cartoons than from many of the Protestantized celebrity Catholic clerics out there.
Lutherans are Catholics that were kicked out of Rome. Martin Luther didn't start his own church, he was kicked out
@@raymondsaint4156 Well not exactly. Luther insisted everybody had to agree with his interpretation of scripture. In essence he wanted more power than the Pope. He was so convinced that he was right and everybody else was wrong. Only Luther could interpret the bible. Luther meant well. So did Oliver Cromwell, but dictatorship is wrong be it by Calvin, Luther, a Pope, Cromwell ect. I am Mormon but I believe there are times the Prophet is too dictatorial. There have been times that our Apostles have had to tell the Prophet no. I wish there were more checks and balances but at least the Apostle can veto the Prophet.
@@iloveutah5584
I'm guessing you learned about Luther via Roman sources lol
Also, go read the Athanasian Creed
@@raymondsaint4156 Mormon, Catholic, ELCA, Missouri Synod and Secular.
@@iloveutah5584 have you read the Athanasian Creed yet?
Great stuff! The Bad Subtitles one is still the best!
"Yes, the dark knight rises was a compelling story, but let's get back to John the Evangelist" 😂
Also you could point to the “three Nephites” who are also allegedly still alive, and are also “apostles” from the church Jesus established in ancient America. They have never shown up in Salt Lake City either….
Hey, Patrick, I just met the Mormons and asked the same question and got exactly the same answer~~you know, he just cannot show up~~~~
On top of that, it also means that in 1800 years, the Apostle John either never shared the Gospel, or no one accepted the Gospel.
modernezra very interesting insight
That is because you were talking to two ignorant boys. If you want Mormon intellectualism then go type in your question end it with Fair Mormon. BYU has intellectuals that are peer reviewed. The correct answer is we are saved from eternal Hell but just because we are saved or rescued from Hell does not mean we do not receive different rewards or kingdoms, or bodies, or heavens ect. It is in Corinthians 15. You can interpret it differently but Mormons did not make it up. It is in the bible. Just depends on what verses you choose to quote and string together.
@@iloveutah5584 None of those verses say anything about multiple heavens, multiple kingdoms, or relate to why the Apostle John can't just show up.
Not to mention, how did "the one true Church" cease to exist "after the death of the Apostles" if St. John never died?
This week, a very young girl I had never met before kept addressing me as Patrick. . . coincidence? Hans, do you, Donall, and Conall have East Coast minions?
You got almost all of it wrong except the bicycle helmets, so...
...no hard feelings.
Yes very ignorant of Mormons.
There are reasons I left the Mormons
Because you're weak minded? Cool story sister. Come on back.
I left the Mormons too. Then I realized the other religions and philosophies, and organizations were worse. I came back to the Mormons. Hope you found something that works for you. I found out that others were more full of it then Mormons so I came back.
@@iloveutah5584 Thank you for the sentiment! I am now a Roman Catholic and find a lot of peace. I hope you are finding peace as well.
@@peppygurl7044 Thank you. If I were not a Mormon, I would be a Roman Catholic, or Greek Orthodox. I have a college degree from the University of St. Thomas. I am kind of a Catholic Mormon. Probably makes no sense but I really find a lot of truth in both. God bless you.
I think I largely agree with LutheranSatire on this one. His other video about Mormonism I strongly disagreed with, but he's mostly correct here. And I'm a Latter Day Saint myself. (just not a member of the Mormon chruch)
I freakin' love these!
If john the apostle was alive he would be the richest man on the planet by now
I comes from John 21. Can't believe the ignorance out there.
@@iloveutah5584but you and your religion ignore galatians 1:8-12…
oh i love this! I can't wait to see more! You guys should do on on the jehovah's witnesses! :D
Amen! As an ex-Mo, I approve this message 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Really Patrick!
If a Mormon sees this video, it might give them some ideas, like how to come up with a better sounding response to this question even though it will be ridiculous.
Mormon.... The second 'm' is silent.
lol xD
Gay, you are.
Actually Mormons are very educated. You might try Jeff Lindsay, Kerry Muhlstein, Fair Mormon. Mormons have more scholars than Missouri Synod Lutherans.
Truly Brilliant. I'll never tire of Donall and Conall ;)
Hahaha this is a great, quick way to debunk Mormons. Jesus Christ was, is, and always will be the head of Protestant Christianity. Logical and historical.
Elijah Olson Mormons teach that Christ is the head of the church
Love all of you wonderful Lutherns❤❤❤😊😊😊
Kind of ironic to hear talk about the "one, true church" from a denomination which began in the 16th century...
+Greg Aitchison I think thats kind of the point. John Smith brought back the true church apparently because all the others were corrupt.
+Greg Aitchison According to lutheranism, the "one, true church" is all (trinitarian) christians
+K Bako if the true church died out that means the the holy ghost must have died too! Is that what you are saying?
mr.modern44 I am fairly certain that the mormons don't believe in the holy trinity. no holy ghost. Something about God having a physical body and living on the planet Kolob. The exact details are in the Book of Abraham.
It is true that the "Catholic" church was established by Christ and has existed since the beginning… However the Roman church (as distinct from the Eastern churches, the Lutheran churches, Reformed Protestant churches, and all other trinitarian church-bodies) is a specific DENOMINATION that evolved over time.
I like Roman Catholicism, but when you claim that you are the entire church and everybody who's outside of you is outside of the church… It's just a silly is when some non-denominationals say: "we are not a denomination" - when it's obvious that they're just some hodgepodge between Baptist, Methodist and Pentecostal.
Oh, that ending!
make more with donal and conal
they sound like a grown up version of Dexter, from Dexter's Laboratory xD i love it!
Mocking the Mormons' claim that the Church ceased to exist and then went back to life in the 19th century is a funny thing to say for people who basically believe it took a guy who lived in the 16th century to revive the early apostolic Church...
ascilon Agreed. All Protestantism - except perhaps the Anglicans - is Restorationism.
***** Well just read it as "any creed derived from Luther's reform" then.
And yet again, Lutheranism also is the restoration of a falsehood. The Church depicted by Luther in his works never existed.
***** Protestantism refers to any group of Christians that left the Catholic Church - first in the 1500s or so, and then later - under the assumption that the Catholic Church was in error, and it was their job to rebuild the Church of Christ. They agreed to the term as much as anyone. Indeed, to this day, the Episcopalian Church - the closest thing to a Catholic-like sect among you rebels - refers to themselves as the "_Protestant_ Episcopal Church" in their own literature.
So, it's not irrelevant. It's history. You left because you think Rome's wrong - even though there's NO historical grounding for ANY variety of Protestantism as it existed then or exists today. Anything that IS grounded in history died off - proving itself NOT to be Christ's prevailing teaching - or is already found in Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
***** Only an idiot or an ignoramus brings up "atrocities done in the name of God" to disprove religions - in whole, or in particular.
Adam disobeyed God, and wrought original sin for all of us. Should we all quit the human race because our forefather was a sinner? Should we quit the Abrahamic covenant because Abraham knew Hagar, and that was not God's plan? Should we quit the Faith because Judas, an apostle, betrayed Christ?
Don't you dare, ever, as a means of attacking ANY church, the question of "atrocities". That's how atheists talk and think. And I'm sure we both agree they're idiots. _So be as wise as a serpent,_ lest you become one.
*****
No. You're just an idiot. That has nothing to do with your salvation. You might still be saved. But it won't be by the brain God gave you, which, being the gift of God, is an ordinary and salutary means of salvation (in conjunction, of course, with baptism and the other sacraments).
Once again, if you're going to play the "these people hurt other Christians" card, you're playing a very easy to ignore move, considering Protestants - _of which you prove yourself to be one more and more every minute_ - also committed atrocities against Catholics. And, of course, Adam and Eve committed THE atrocity against God. So you may as well leave the human species if atrocities = flee this group like the plague.
You seem to have a dogma, yourself, that dogma does not matter. I guess you never heard of the Seven Ecumenical Councils, or about closed communion, which occurred well into the 1900s, even between Protestants, even in America? Your distaste for dogma in general is a novelty, without basis. Calvin, Zwingli, Melancthon, and Luther, for whom you owe much credit, were also dogmatists, you know.
Wow! I regularly watch Shawn McCraney on Heart of the Matter and I had never heard of this gem. Lutheran Satire rocks!
You forgot to mention that when Shawn offered to criticize Catholics and Protestants on TV the TV pulled the plug. You see Catholics and Protestants cant handle the truth. Just like Democrats.
I think you need to make one of these videos on the Jehovah's Witnesses
Can someone tell me where the song at the end comes from? I like it
LOL i love these two XD
Please PLEASE make more!
Where can I find the music?
Love your videos and great points .
They wouldn't give their first names. The call themselves "elder"
I'd never heard of this... wow. Just wow.
Kyle and Bryce strike me as very Mormon names, makong this funnier.
Common Mormon last names are Christiansen, Jensen, Hansen, Sorensen, Lund, this is because a lot of Danish people converted to the Mormon church in about 1850 to 1880 about 40000. Now Mormons are all over the world but if you are talking about Mormons who are descended from the pioneers it is mostly Western English, America, Denmark, and Tonga. That is where the earliest Mormons came from.
I live in Utah and you bet I will call the next missionary I see Patrick, and go off on him in an Irish accent
LOL! That's funny. I've been trying to have a discussion with 2 mormon missionaries about faith they do a lot of backpeddling when you corner them into a wall so this is pretty accurate about that.
Mormon missionaries are not theologians. Go to Fair Mormon if you want to intellectualize. Missionaries are sales people. They are not intellectuals.
You can't literally change a Bible verse then argue that that verse proves your point.
You should do this for Jehovah's Witnesses
Done :)
love these guys
I do like these guys. Their take down of atheism is pretty great. However, this time they missed from the very get-go.
1. The Mormon faith does NOT say that there have to be 12 Apostles. In fact, it doesn't even say that there can ONLY be 12 Apostles.
2. John specifically stayed on earth to observe, not participate... no meetings, no new books, but he may have done some tap-dancing (probably not anywhere near yaks, though ;-) )
3. John never lost his Apostolic status
4. John also never lost his membership in Christ's church, and
5. The LDS Church IS the restoration of Christ's church, so
6. John IS a member of the LDS Church.
So, Donall and Conall, when can Elder Patrick and Elder Patrick schedule you for your baptism?
P.S. John's not the only 'extra' Apostle hanging out on earth :-).
Jason G well put
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Mormonism teaches that NOW, but did it at the time this video was made? You guys "update" your scripture so often it's hard to keep track of what's true anymore... Do black people still have a loathsome skin and are barred from serving as priests? That was still in when my dad went to college in Utah... Well, at least you (mostly) stopped practicing polygamy, which was only ADDED to your doctrine because your self-proclaimed prophet of God got caught committing adultery... Oh, and have Indians been proven to ACTUALLY be Jewish, the secret lost tribe, even though DNA tests prove they're of asian decent? Gentlemen, I have bad news for you... You're living in a cuuuult!
Very good.
Also, John DID show up for the meet and greet, along with Peter and James, when they gave Joseph and Oliver the priesthood. Nope, no logical holes here...
@@davidtucker9498 Ah, the c-word again. And you wonder why Mormons don't take your fanciful, unsubstantiated claims seriously.
Come ONNNN Patrick!
Get your story together Patrick!
sorry we're having a hard time hearing you benith your prophets mountainous continuity error!
Sorry, we haven't acknowledged your grievances with your spelling errors present.
@masterskyrunner, that is an abuse of the text. The context of Matthew 18:15-20 is specifically about church discipline and has nothing to do with priesthood authority. You need to deal with what Joseph Smith wrote and how it contradicts with other Mormon scripture, not bend the truth of the one true book (the Bible) to fit the claims of Mormonism.
No you need to go to Jeff Lindsey, Kerry Muhlstein, or Fair Mormon and find out that Mormons are not stupid and have answers.
@@iloveutah5584bad answers… completely nonsense.
That was Hilarious
Awesome, and the Donall and Conall are just to hilarious. Great video!
This isn't the way to speak to Mormons. Additionally, despite the bad theology, we shouldn't condemn the Mormons as non-Christians and still lump them in as a "cult" because someone read or watched Walter Martin.
well they're no more christian than than scientologists, and certainly not evangelical by any means, so how are they not non-christian??? They are pretty much the definition of a cult.
Your response is pretty shallow. Bad theology does not dictate one's love for Jesus Christ as Lord, King, and Savior. The blood of Christ is all even if someone does believe in Temples and the Book of Mormon. And no cult would have a major academic institution like BYU amongst other great feats. Cult is such a stupid term that Walter King fans have been shouting since the 1960s.
jbspencer77
They're more Christian than Scientologists. Mormonism, Islam, and JW are all more or less Christian heresies, and they all feature Arianism and/or Nestorianism in them.
frontensemble077 But was Jesus actually God? There's the difference.
But Mormons AREN'T Christians! They are dangerous. Educate yourself!
As a former Mormon, that. Was. Awesome! Lol
This significantly misrepresents the beliefs and teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is a straw man argument (it puts words in the mouths of your opponent that they don't believe, but are easily refuted). I am sure you can find legitimate criticisms about my church. This is simply not one of them.
Which part significantly misrepresents mormon beliefs?
Amen to that. I would never claim to be a Lutheran expert, and the people that made this know very little about Mormonism. Mormonism is a very complicated religion.
What? One of the missionaries is named Bryce? O.O
Bravo fellas! lol
Out of all the popular false religous figures, I always saw Muhammad as the Batman-y, not Joseph Smith.
The Church claims to be the True Church restored. Accordingly, John The Beloved does not have to convert to it. He has always been a member of it.
stevenator0281 The question still stand then: if he is still an Apostle, why is he not one of your twelve apostles? And why hasn't he shown up yet to reclaim his spot in the restored church, if that is what it is?
ChesterKhan Does he have to be? Paul wasn't one of the original Twelve and when he converted there were Twelve in office, but he is considered an Apostle. The Church also teaches that any Levite that converts to the Church will automatically become a High Priest. This is their right by birth. That said, I don't know of any who have shown up to receive this office. The fact is we don't know what John is doing or where he is. Whatever the case, I am sure it is important.
stevenator0281 None of this addresses the fact that, if St. John never died, and is still alive, and has been alive ever since he first became an Apostle...
He has never ceded the seat.
Also, by your logic, Matthias, therefore, was not an Apostle, even though they chose him to succeed Judas, since there must be Twelve, not thirteen.
ChesterKhan Nothing says he has to cede his seat. He can remain an Apostle, as did Matthias. You are either deliberately misunderstanding or just trolling. Either way, we're done.
stevenator0281
Very well. I guess your Mormon doctrine is not worth citing any sources.
hilarious! and great work!
lol this is probably my favorite one.
Wait... if they think John is still alive, doesn't that mean they have THIRTEEN apostles?
Peter James and John gave the Apostleship to Joseph Smith. They were resurrected or never died in John's case (John 21) It is not important to have exactly 12 Apostles. It is a reference that Jesus had 12. Honestly, I can not believe the ignorance of people.
@@iloveutah5584John 21 literally says that Jesus did not say that he would not die.
@@iloveutah5584like yours? Because believing John never died but was too “busy” to see the Church be overturn by the hades as Jesus said it would not happen… looks your religion is a ignorance as a whole
May I add my two cents (yes, I'm a Mormon). John stopped preaching for a reason... Because his fellow apostles were brutally KILLED and he was BANISHED and EXILED. If I knew nobody would listen to me, I would probably have stopped showing my face. But he did come back and, along with Peter and James from the New Testament, restored the Holy Melchizedek Priesthood to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdry. I promise this is true. I don't look for a fight, just trying to clear things up. Funny video though! Haha!
Sorry not to be controversial but where is any evidence (besides conjecture) for any of these claims?
Sorry Isaac I'd just like some (a lot) of clarification here...are you unaware of the ridiculously huge differences between Mormonism and Christianity?
Yes, I am unaware of the differences. Will you please tell me those differences because I was under the impression that I (along with the rest of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) believed in God the Father, the Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost just as much as any other christian religion. I (and the church) believe in the Bible just as much as anyone else does. In fact, I have been rereading the stories of Christ found in the the first four books of the New Testament. I love reading about his miracles. I love picturing myself being there when he taught his disciples. And I especially love the parts where He suffered in Gethsemane, along with the beatings he took before Calvary, and ending with his death on the Cross for me as well as the rest of the world so that we may be forgiven of our sins as long as we repent and are baptized by proper authority of God and follow His commandments. I love the part of His Resurrection, so that one day, all mankind may be brought back to life, even immortality, so that we may be judged and awarded for our works on earth. So then, can you tell me all the differences between the "Mormon" Church and the rest of Christianity because I understood that other Christians believed this as well.
***** Joseph Smith never tried to over ride the word of God! He praised God the Father as the Father of our souls, and ruler over all. He praised Jesus the Christ as our Savior and Redeemer! Ancient Prophets did appear to him so that he would know how to bring back the fulness of the Gospel given by Christ and all of the ancient prophets. I give my testimony to you that Joseph Smith did see God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ. They appeared to him to tell him that he was needed to restore the Gospel so that all of us would more fully understand God, and so that we may more clearly have His commandments. He was the tool in restoring the Holy Priesthood of God. We in the church praise Joseph as the first prophet in this time period, but we even more praise Jesus Christ, for He was and is and forever will be our Savior and Redeemer. I am thankful for this knowledge, because it brings me true happiness and joy. I ask you, as a friend rather than an enemy, to read the Book of Mormon, and pray to Heavenly Father and ask Him if it is true. I promise you He will reveal it to you. I promise you that. He has done the same for me. The book of Mormon, along with the Bible, will bring you closer to your Heavenly Father and your Savior, Jesus Christ.
Isaac Blackburn First off, from the admittedly few sources I've heard from, atheist and Christian both say the BoM is inconsistent with the Christian gospel and extent of the scriptures.
I have a few other questions. How did God appear to Joseph? What was his reaction in the 'vision'? I have heard from many mormons personally that they all do not believe in the sufficiency of the atoning death of Jesus Christ, that only _most_ of the sins people commit (the 'little' sins, even though all are sins, no one sin is worse than another to God) are atoned by Jesus' death, and that people must offer up a blood sacrifice (themselves) in order to make atonement (this is completely unbiblical in every imaginable aspect); I'd just like some clarifications on those. Also why did the 'holy priesthood of God' need to be restored? Why was it sooo long that people were living 'without the truth' and how could anybody have been saved in this period if it was such an obvious fault in the religious traditions that God had to send _himself and Jesus through a vision_ to a man who had an *extremely* questionable past (I can elaborate more on his questionable past if you'd like) in order to restore the 'truth'? Also, what made Joseph Smith worthy of having a direct encounter with God and Jesus Christ? Sorry I asked so much, I'm just highly questioning of the Mormon perspective and it's implications.
( I am mormen ) and this will never break me down the strength in this church is just amazing my faith will never break and neither will any other mormens just remember that god has us
But why don't you believe what the Book of Mormon taught before it was changed?
Your sins were nailed to the cross when the only Son of God was crucified. Place no confidence in anything other than Christ and Him crucified.
But given your confidence, why even bother responding as you did? What would be the point?
You say you are a Mormon, yet you spelled "Mormon" wrong---twice. So I assume you never looked into the background of your False Prophet, either. [before joining].