Instead of focusing on theology, the British love meditating on snow, silence, and livestock in their Christmas hymns. Martin Luther finds this annoying.
"Hark the Herald Angels Sing" was written by a British man (Charles Wesley) and it's one of the most theologically dense Christmas carols of all time. Same goes for "O Come All Ye Faithful" (written by British Catholic priest John Wade), but unfortunately the more theological verses are typically omitted nowadays.
Mr. Thompson: Wait, Luther! Vicar: Give us one more chance! Mr. Thompson: I'm confident we can get the theology right this time! Luther: You have one more chance. *the music starts as Vicar and Mr. Thompson sing* The snow was cold, and the night was black, and the ice as hard as stone - Though not so hard as the hearts of men 'gainst God in Heav'n enthroned. That night in the streets of Bethlehem, not an ear could hear a sound, And yet in a humble stable did the Word of God resound! For God has now come down to earth in a manger filled with hay, With an ox and an ass and a sheep and a duck and a goose that cold cold day! He came though we in our malice would soon slay Him on the cross - Leave Him dead like the silent frozen ducks strewn about in Bethle'm's frost. But there's no pow'r in Earth or Hell that can keep Him in the grave, Nor one that can withhold His Grace from those He came to save! So now with an angelic choir let's praise a God who's big and bold, The God with a love ever warm for us even when our hearts are cold! Vicar: Well Mr. Luther? What do you say? Luther: Congratulations. You've somehow managed to completely miss the point while simultaneously taking it to heart. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go home and drink five pints of my wife's hombrewed beer before that abomination is permanently seared into my long term memory. *Luther hurries off* *awkward silence* Mr. Thompson: I think that went splendidly! Vicar: Quite!
Repent and trust in Jesus. We all deserve Hell for our sins, such as lying lusting coveting and more. We can't save ourselves, but Jesus can save us. He died on the cross to save us for our sins and rose from the grave defeating death and Hell. You must put your faith in him only. He is the only way to Heaven. Repent and trust in Jesus. Romans 6:23 John 3:16
The carol lyrics: The snow was cold and the snow was bright and the snow was all around For Christ was born on the day when God sent snow upon the ground For God has now come down to earth in a manger filled with hay With an ox and an ass and a sheep and a duck and a goose that cold cold day On Christmas Night not a sound was heard in Bethlehem below Because of the ducks and the geese and the sheep were frozen in the snow So now with an angelic choirlet's praise a God that's big and bold The God who never ever gets a chill even when the ducks are cold
As an Anglican organist and hymnodist drawing inspiration from German language hymnody, I can confirm the complete correctness of this bideo. It is also brilliantly done. Herzlichen Dank und viele Gruesse aus Suedafrika.
What about Rev. Charles Wesley's hymns? "Hark! the Herald Angels Sing" is an excellent hymn that doesn't feature silent frozen ducks. And yes, the Wesley brothers remained Anglican priests throughout their entire lives.
And many people don't realize Charles and John Wesley never left the Church of England. They were Anglican priests who started the Methodist movement within the church. Charles being the better hymnist than John. Sorry, just a Methodist PK who later became an Episcopalian here.
+AcemanTheSpaceman Even "God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen" -- which is English, but not exactly Anglican in origin -- is pretty theologically sound. (Speaking as a Lutheran here.) But yes, it is annoying how Lutherans don't know their own hymns. Don't know them because they won't sing them. Won't sing them because they don't know them.
I actually grew up as a United Methodist preacher's kid before becoming Episcopalian, so I am very familiar with the hymns of Charles Wesley. And you are right. Neither John or Charles left the Church of England. The American Revolution led to the Episcopal Church and the Methodist Episcopal Church.
The wesley brothers remained anglican, but they knew that their religion was dead, see, the problem of "high churches" is that they are terrified with evangelism (some roman catholics dont) wesley wrote that he was terrified to evangelize outside a "church". The lutheran church once said that the great comission was just the apostle's job and that it was not a job for today. Compare an orthodox to a baptist, the orthodox evangelize with the intellect following rites, the baptist with the heart, and I am not even a baptist, but thank to many puritans and also baptist that the great comission was done, and I cant deny that there were also roman catholics who truly trusted in Christ and went to do the great comission...
My favourite Christmas hymn is “what child is this”... cuz then I get to belt out “Nails, spear, shall pierce him through , the cross be born for me for you!”
I'm a Ukrainian Catholic I like these videos, very funny and for some part like the stance they take on silly modern Christian habits. But I will say the ox and ass have meaning. This is something perhaps lost due to inconolasm in lutheranism but the ox is Juda and the ass is the gentiles. In our church there is an icon of the nativity, among many different elements whenever father deacon gives a tour to visitors he always mentions this because the ox and ass aren't random inclusions of the icon but deliberate part of the essential gospel narrative. The ox and ass TOGETHER at the nativity mean Christ has come for ALL races and peoples, and that the time of distinction between Jew and gentile is no more.
My favorite hymn at Christmas is "In the Bleak Midwinter" by Christina Rossetti (music by Holtz). It's my favorite because the poet uses the imagery of Victorian winters as a metaphor for the human condition at Christ's advent. I think Dr. Luther would approve.
Still true in Christmas 2019. There are so many carols in the English tradition that don't focus on the birth of Jesus, but they do focus on things like animal inventories or weather patterns. For example, looking at you, 'The holly and the ivy," or "Ding dong merrily on high".
Other than the random chorus couplet "The rising of the sun and the running of the deer" in "The holly and the Ivy", there's nothing remotely like animal inventories or weather stuff in those two songs. It's musical stuff that gets mentioned lots - bells, choirs and organs. And, obviously, holly in tHatI (where Ivy is only there to fill in the first line of the pointless first verse), which - despite so much potential - doesn't relate to the stuff about Jesus other than the couplet about holly rhyming with the couplet about why "Mary bore sweet Jesus Christ" and so ends up just pointless. Ding Dong has the repeated praise line of "Glorororororororia! Hosanna in excelsis!" and the rest is sort of encouragement for musicians and singers to take part (unlike tHatI's "isn't this nice" view on it). There's some doubt as to what 'io' means, but there's not a huge amount of difference in sentiment and content between it and Psalm 150 (say) which is exhorting people to praise mostly by listing instruments.
As Hans Fiene has been blessed with a good voice and musical skills, I say, he should actually give us the full version of his sensitive "Oh Jesus Christ, Thy Manger is..."
@@inkdupbagman3697 He is ever so slightly partisan, you might guess. Fortunately, he is partisan in the direction of thinking he is actually Catholic and upholding the actual Catholic faith. The fortune in that is he doesn't want a church where you believe whatever you want; he's honestly trying to follow the will of God, I think.
@@nashvillain171 Much more polite then what I think Luther would have said. I feel he would have threatened to drown him in a puddle of shit. Exactly what that hymn amounted to. Or something fecal oriented.
There is a great irony about this: the greatest German hymn, (of church hymns; "high music" by JS Bach excluded), begins with the silence of the night, and has lots of nature in it, setting off the miracle of the dawn of redeeming grace. Christ the savior is born, in that quiiet natural setting, the world of men, while it's quiet and "the world" isn't looking.
This is a nineteenth century, pan-European, Romanticist phenomenon, not an English vs. German thing. You get sentimental schlock like O Tannenbaum in nineteenth century Germany, and you get really great hymns like Joy to the World (Isaac Watts) and Hark the Herald Angels Sing (Charles Wesley) in earlier Anglicanism.
+Alexander Fretheim Well, the very earliest, anyway. Edwardian Anglicanism and Cranmer began the turn toward Puritanism, and the failure of William Laud was the last we saw of real Anglo-Catholicism until the Tracterians showed up. In the middle is where you get Watts and Wesley.
+Bill Recher Umm... the Anglicans, who date only to the sixteenth or seventeenth century, somehow predate the Catholics in England? You have some explaining to do.
+Barely Protestant (Barely Protestant) I am a member at a LCMS church, but I was baptized in the ACC (Anglican). I must say that although there are silly songs that pass for hymns in the Anglican tradition, there are a lot of GOOD Anglican Hymns too. I love trying to sing from my 1928 BoCP. And... since the English-Speaking Lutherans borrowed most of the liturgy back from the Anglicans (though Luther did help with their original English translations), English speaking Christians of ALL stripes (esp Lutherans who actually use the historic liturgy) owe a debt to the English church in that regard. Perhaps the Lutherans could borrow melodies from the Anglicans and the Anglicans borrow the words from the Lutherans and we'd have the best of both worlds! (some of the Lutheran hymns are darned hard to sing... good theology wrapped in dark, heavy notes) Anyway... I'm glad that we (Lutherans) have borrowed the Best Hymns from other church bodies and left the bad ones. We sang "Oh God our help in ages past" recently at Church... a good Englishman wrote that! (Isaac Watts) although why it wasn't to the St. Anne tune, I'll never understand!) Thanks for the satire... even if I disagree at one level, I can laugh and enjoy the humor. Keep the Mass in Christmas this year!
wcbpolish Ah, I'm ACNA; I'd have likely joined the ACC if there were one nearby and my ACNA parish wasn't already amazing. It's a very high Anglo-Catholic church; my priests face ad orientem, we use incense, etc. Lutherans rock, minus a few points of disagreement (no Apostolic Succession for most, closed communion, hatred for Rome, etc.).
I like this video, but Methodist Charles Wesley wrote the best Christmas Hymn: "Veil’d in flesh, the Godhead see, Hail the Incarnate Deity! Pleased as man with men to dwell Jesus, our Immanuel!" Unitarian Edmund Sears wrote best about the message of Christmas: "Yet with the woes of sin and strife the world has suffered long; Beneath the angel strain have rolled two thousand years of wrong; And man, at war with man, hears not the love song which they bring; O hush the noise, ye men of strife and hear the angels sing."
I really get annoyed when they decide to "modernize the poetry" or politcally correct it. and in so doing, disrupt the internal rhyme... "Pleased with us with us to dwell, Jesus our immusuel" ?
Lol I never thought about it that way. Of course, I'm sure we are more inclined to sing Anglican Christmas hymns because no translation was ever needed. Also, I imagine setting the scene about various random details may make the story more relatable and thus easier for us to remember.
+Garrett Stock Why must we be so hateful when talking about things of the Lord? This is supposed to be a season of love, thank God in this country we all have a right to an opinion even if it is in conflict with anothers.
This was fun! As a former LCMS protestant, I think the Lutheran hymns come in second only to the ones in the Orthodox Church. Check them out! And have a blessed Feast of the Nativity. Peace.
+Wynona Fudd Yes- Orthodox chant is very good. I'm just wary of it because I don't know how much of the Theology is good. Try Catholic. Eastern Catholic if you like Orthodox chants.
+Michael Rex Thanks for your concern, but I converted to Orthodox Christianity after a very long and arduous search. No worries about sound theology here. But I do like Gregorian chant, and Hildegard of Bingen's work. Peace.
"We sing about God in the flesh (Jn 1:1-3) fulfilling biblical prophecy (Lk 24:27), destroying the works of the devil (1 Jn 3:8), burying sin under his infant feet and bringing heaven to earth by His flesh that was sent to be torn apart for our sins upon the cross (Isa 52:14-15; 53:3-5)" I am using this from now on when describing why we as Christians celebrate Christmas when confronted by the HRM crowd. Thank you LutheranSatire, God bless!
God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen O Come O Come Emmanuel What Child Is This Are probably the three best hymns off the top my head because they are a solid cross between Anglican and Ancient Egyptian. Hark the Herald Angels Sing was already quite good and Charlie Brown gave it a further boost which is rather impressive.
I was brought up Church of England. I get the joke: we have beautiful carols, but they do sometimes include scene-setting about quietness and the ox and ass, and the weather etc. Not to the extent of the one in the video, but it's a comic exaggeration. It sounds like Lutheran ones are more seriously theological. Liked the accent joke at the end :-)
If Pastor Hans plans on a sequel to this episode, please substitute Sir Cliff Richard for Axl Rose as the angel. 😉 Cliffie's Christmas songs include mistletoe and wine, numb fingers, and raising our glasses to drink to the King! Your choice of wine or grape juice.😉
I briefly attended an Anglo-Catholic (High-Church Anglican) church here in Australia for a few months and they had some of the most beautiful hymns I've ever heard. Not sure where you're getting this from, it's not even accurate.
As far as I'm aware, the lists of animals or nature themes or whatever come from traditional English folk songs - technically a 'carol' is a different kind of music from a hymn
Possibly. Many Anglicans joined evangelic churches during the height of the American Restoration Movement in the 1800s, so Im certain there are a few "crossed lines" throughout the hymnal timeline. That being said, "Silent night....Holy night....all is calm, all is..."
You know, Revelation 12 has everything you need for a metal Christmas song. And yet, I still wait for a Christmas song where Jesus curb-stomps a dragon, thus winning an epic battle in a divine war. Also, the amount of laughter I get out of the line, "we said a German accent. Not ancient Egyptian!" can not be understated!
As an Anglican, touché. I would counter with “What Child Is This,” but considering that the Episcopalian hymnals inherited by the ACNA literally cut out, “Nails, spear shall pierce him through / The cross be borne for me, for you,” in stanza 2 and replace it with the equivalent section of stanza 1, touché all the more.
Good Morrow. Totally love Lutheran Satire. Was wondering, though...would it be possible to include Horus in more videos in the future? (a personal favorite). All good things and blessings...oh...and....Crumpets Crumpets Crumpets, Scones Scones Scones! C'mon Patrick! :)
How about using the liturgy of St John Chrysostom where we fully enumerate every aspect of our theology like the mentioning and The Hypostatic union and invoking the trinity over 40 times? Why not like The Eastern Orthodox Church Chant entire psalms? How about that?
I mean its not like the Traditional churches exclusively have liturgical chant. Every nation still has vernacular hymns for the unlearned. I dont actually know how those are implemented in eastern churches. In the traditional latin mass there are some sections where one or two vernacular hymns can be sung in mass.
We actually use a large variety of hymns! I personally prefer Lutheran hymns, of course. But, here in the Australian Anglican Church, we use a lot of Lutheran hymns, also methodist ones.
I love this, but it would have been a lot funnier if the title wasn't inherently condescending. It would have worked infinitely better if it was a commentary on English Christmas carols in general. Whatever good points it makes are undermined pretty severely by the need to make it an insult against a specific branch of Christianity.
Neither could the German Nazis endure the cold winter while slouching - goose stepping? - toward Russia. Where would any native German (Lutheran and/or Catholic?) be without the Americans and the British, i.e., the Anglos, helping them rebuild for decades after WW2? The hauteur on this site is breathtaking, as is the growing arogance of the German led EU.
+Acton Rand Schaeffer I'm not familiar with Lutheran hymns, but I guess they're generally more heavy on the theology than Anglican ones, and this is just an exaggeration for comedy. It's true some famous Anglican carols do have plenty of stuff that's not just serious theology about Christ incarnating and redeeming our sins etc, and that set the scene and paint pictures in some way, including stuff about the weather and animals.. How about In the deep midwinter (frosty wind made moan/ earth stood hard as iron/ water as a stone....). Or Good King Wenceslas. Or O little town of Bethlehem. Or Away in a manger (and they're just a few of the first carols that came to my mind - I'm from a Church of England background). They all have quite a lot of stuff that LutheranSatire would probably think is extraneous window dressing and not getting to the point (but are nice to sing!) :p
For anyone who wants the full lyrics to "Silent Frozen Ducks", here they are (as best as I can make them out): The snow was cold and the snow was bright and the snow was all around, For Christ was born on the day when God sent snow upon the ground. For God has now come down to earth in a manger filled with hay, Near an ox and an ass and a sheep and a duck and a goose, that cold, cold day. On Christmas night not a sound was heard in Bethlehem below, Because all the ducks and the geese and the sheep were frozen in the snow. So now with an angelify let's praise the God who's big and bold, The God who never ever gets a chill even when the ducks are cold.
Just thought I'd point out that Joy to the World was written by a British dude. (Not sure if he was Anglican or not though.) Then again it was originally written about the RETURN of Christ, so it may not technically count. :P
love the videos... but has anyone asked what the Christians in the first century church did during December? Ill give you a hint... it wasn't celebrating Christmas.
The Germans are good at producing their own songs of that sort:Leise rieselt der Schnee, Still und starr ruht der See, Weihnachlicht glänzet der wald. Freue dich,’s Christkind kommt bald! In den Herzen wird’s warm, Still schweigt Kummer und Harm, Sorge des Lebens verhalt. Freue dich,’s Christkind kommt bald! Bald ist heilige Nacht, Chor der Engel erwacht, Hört nur, wie lieblich es schallt: Freue dich,’s Christkind kommt bald! Freue dich,’s Christkind kommt bald!And the Germans are good at coming up with Christmas carols that turn out to be more about Mary, like "Maria durch ein' Dornwald ging" and "Joseph Lieber, Joseph Mein'".And the Anglicans have some decent ones. "Once in Royal David's City" is very nice if one drops the works-righteous third and fourth verses; "God Rest You Merry, Gentlemen" is pretty solid, as is "What Child Is This".
For this Christmas, I have elected to read the second chapter of Luke's gospel and then the entirety of Athansius' "On The Incarnation." Can never get the kids into proper christology too soon!
"I feel a pathological need to drop kick you in the gullet" is something I could definitely imagine Luther saying
"Drown yourself in a Baptismal, maybe this time it will stick"
Favorite Luther quote.
@@acekoala457 lmfao
hmm, but the gullet? I suspect Luther would go for something far more scatological.
I'm quite confident that you're a genius.
+SmarterEveryDay Facts.
Here here! Quite right you are at that.
+SmarterEveryDay I'm so pleased that you're a fan of LutheranSatire.
Are you a Lutheran?😯
SmarterEveryDay!!!! What's up my family man!??!
"Hark the Herald Angels Sing" was written by a British man (Charles Wesley) and it's one of the most theologically dense Christmas carols of all time. Same goes for "O Come All Ye Faithful" (written by British Catholic priest John Wade), but unfortunately the more theological verses are typically omitted nowadays.
I consider Hark the Herald Angels Sing to not just be a Christmas song, but the Christmas song
Dang neither of those are anglicans
Wesley was originally Anglican, and Methodism branched off from Anglicanism, so Hark the Herald Angels is pretty close.
@@memeboi6017 Charles Wesley was an Anglican
@@memeboi6017 Charles Wesley was an Anglican priest, and opposed the Methodist movement breaking from the CoE. He died a devout Anglican.
Mr. Thompson: Wait, Luther!
Vicar: Give us one more chance!
Mr. Thompson: I'm confident we can get the theology right this time!
Luther: You have one more chance.
*the music starts as Vicar and Mr. Thompson sing*
The snow was cold, and the night was black, and the ice as hard as stone -
Though not so hard as the hearts of men 'gainst God in Heav'n enthroned.
That night in the streets of Bethlehem, not an ear could hear a sound,
And yet in a humble stable did the Word of God resound!
For God has now come down to earth in a manger filled with hay,
With an ox and an ass and a sheep and a duck and a goose that cold cold day!
He came though we in our malice would soon slay Him on the cross -
Leave Him dead like the silent frozen ducks strewn about in Bethle'm's frost.
But there's no pow'r in Earth or Hell that can keep Him in the grave,
Nor one that can withhold His Grace from those He came to save!
So now with an angelic choir let's praise a God who's big and bold,
The God with a love ever warm for us even when our hearts are cold!
Vicar: Well Mr. Luther? What do you say?
Luther: Congratulations. You've somehow managed to completely miss the point while simultaneously taking it to heart. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go home and drink five pints of my wife's hombrewed beer before that abomination is permanently seared into my long term memory.
*Luther hurries off*
*awkward silence*
Mr. Thompson: I think that went splendidly!
Vicar: Quite!
Still a better Christmas song than Christmas Shoes
I'm going to take this song caroling this Christmas. I hope you don't mind.
@@EducatedTiger 😂
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“Leave Him dead like the silent frozen ducks strewn about in Bethle'm's frost.” You almost made me wet myself.
"We said a german accent, not an ancient Egyptian one." I died laughing.
Lol now anytime I'm reading and the character is an ancient Egyptian, imagine the voice of "Horas" from Lutheran Satire.
Yes ahahahaha!
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Repent and trust in Jesus. We all deserve Hell for our sins, such as lying lusting coveting and more. We can't save ourselves, but Jesus can save us. He died on the cross to save us for our sins and rose from the grave defeating death and Hell. You must put your faith in him only. He is the only way to Heaven. Repent and trust in Jesus.
Romans 6:23
John 3:16
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The carol lyrics:
The snow was cold and the snow was bright and the snow was all around
For Christ was born on the day when God sent snow upon the ground
For God has now come down to earth in a manger filled with hay
With an ox and an ass and a sheep and a duck and a goose that cold cold day
On Christmas Night not a sound was heard in Bethlehem below
Because of the ducks and the geese and the sheep were frozen in the snow
So now with an angelic choirlet's praise a God that's big and bold
The God who never ever gets a chill even when the ducks are cold
Deep.
Si Hollett Sounds like Veggie Tales' silly song with Larry. Lol. I'm a bit late to this channel.
This is way better than those German hymns.
*Near an Ox
I could sing this.
I hereby rename the pond by our place: Anglican Pond. It currently houses a bunch of silent, frozen ducks.
As an Anglican organist and hymnodist drawing inspiration from German language hymnody, I can confirm the complete correctness of this bideo. It is also brilliantly done.
Herzlichen Dank und viele Gruesse aus Suedafrika.
What about Rev. Charles Wesley's hymns? "Hark! the Herald Angels Sing" is an excellent hymn that doesn't feature silent frozen ducks. And yes, the Wesley brothers remained Anglican priests throughout their entire lives.
And many people don't realize Charles and John Wesley never left the Church of England. They were Anglican priests who started the Methodist movement within the church. Charles being the better hymnist than John. Sorry, just a Methodist PK who later became an Episcopalian here.
+AcemanTheSpaceman Even "God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen" -- which is English, but not exactly Anglican in origin -- is pretty theologically sound. (Speaking as a Lutheran here.) But yes, it is annoying how Lutherans don't know their own hymns. Don't know them because they won't sing them. Won't sing them because they don't know them.
+AcemanTheSpaceman I suspect someone may be just a bit fed up with dear Miss Rosetti's "In the Bleak Midwinter".
I actually grew up as a United Methodist preacher's kid before becoming Episcopalian, so I am very familiar with the hymns of Charles Wesley. And you are right. Neither John or Charles left the Church of England. The American Revolution led to the Episcopal Church and the Methodist Episcopal Church.
The wesley brothers remained anglican, but they knew that their religion was dead, see, the problem of "high churches" is that they are terrified with evangelism (some roman catholics dont) wesley wrote that he was terrified to evangelize outside a "church". The lutheran church once said that the great comission was just the apostle's job and that it was not a job for today. Compare an orthodox to a baptist, the orthodox evangelize with the intellect following rites, the baptist with the heart, and I am not even a baptist, but thank to many puritans and also baptist that the great comission was done, and I cant deny that there were also roman catholics who truly trusted in Christ and went to do the great comission...
My favourite Christmas hymn is “what child is this”... cuz then I get to belt out “Nails, spear, shall pierce him through , the cross be born for me for you!”
I'm with ya - it's disturbing that in every pop version, this line is overwritten with the more benign lyrics. Keep singing the Gospel....
@@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098 that's because it's CLEARLY meant to be sung as a rock version :D
And wasn't that written by an Anglican?
yea the second verse is completely changed in most modern versions
Yes! Me too
I'm a Ukrainian Catholic I like these videos, very funny and for some part like the stance they take on silly modern Christian habits. But I will say the ox and ass have meaning. This is something perhaps lost due to inconolasm in lutheranism but the ox is Juda and the ass is the gentiles. In our church there is an icon of the nativity, among many different elements whenever father deacon gives a tour to visitors he always mentions this because the ox and ass aren't random inclusions of the icon but deliberate part of the essential gospel narrative. The ox and ass TOGETHER at the nativity mean Christ has come for ALL races and peoples, and that the time of distinction between Jew and gentile is no more.
Anglicans accidentally being slightly Orthodox.
Wow, I'm Catholic too, but I've never heard of this symbolism! It's beautiful.
Thank you for pointing this out!
My favorite hymn at Christmas is "In the Bleak Midwinter" by Christina Rossetti (music by Holtz). It's my favorite because the poet uses the imagery of Victorian winters as a metaphor for the human condition at Christ's advent. I think Dr. Luther would approve.
+Paul Barnes I doubt it, far too much stuff about the weather! He likes ones that get straight to the theology, apparently
Luther would have almost assuredly dropped an ass joke when they got to the parts about the animals. :D This was golden as usual, thanks guys.
"Why does everyone sing your hymns instead of ours?"
Because they are catchier, not as intimidating and easier to remember.
Overstated, but fair point.
And we like little duckies!
That's not saying this wasn't a perfect mock nineteenth century English carol, because "The Cold Ducks" is just classic.
Love the Horus reference at the end. LOL.
that was great lol..
+John Lange Can you please explain that joke to me?
+Gamerpark555
watch "Horus Ruins Christmas"
+Andy H That's a Great one.
+Gamerpark555 See Horus ruins Christmas. Funny!
Still true in Christmas 2019. There are so many carols in the English tradition that don't focus on the birth of Jesus, but they do focus on things like animal inventories or weather patterns. For example, looking at you, 'The holly and the ivy," or "Ding dong merrily on high".
Other than the random chorus couplet "The rising of the sun and the running of the deer" in "The holly and the Ivy", there's nothing remotely like animal inventories or weather stuff in those two songs. It's musical stuff that gets mentioned lots - bells, choirs and organs. And, obviously, holly in tHatI (where Ivy is only there to fill in the first line of the pointless first verse), which - despite so much potential - doesn't relate to the stuff about Jesus other than the couplet about holly rhyming with the couplet about why "Mary bore sweet Jesus Christ" and so ends up just pointless.
Ding Dong has the repeated praise line of "Glorororororororia! Hosanna in excelsis!" and the rest is sort of encouragement for musicians and singers to take part (unlike tHatI's "isn't this nice" view on it). There's some doubt as to what 'io' means, but there's not a huge amount of difference in sentiment and content between it and Psalm 150 (say) which is exhorting people to praise mostly by listing instruments.
Does anyone else just really want a video of the whole song played out? I know it’s not remotely theological but it’s so catchy. 😂😂
Silent night. Original title "Stille Nacht" written by Franz Gruber, an Austrian. Refers to the silence that night. At least he didn't mention snow.
And Franz Gruber was a Catholic priest.
As Hans Fiene has been blessed with a good voice and musical skills, I say, he should actually give us the full version of his sensitive "Oh Jesus Christ, Thy Manger is..."
Ok yes please, I came here to say the same thing and it’s not even Christmas. I will NEED this hymn. 😂 Sensitive is the perfect way to put it.
Your Luther is far too polite. ;)
+juhfreak
I noticed that too...
It's just like SNL's Biden, Trump, Clinton, and Harris
@@inkdupbagman3697 He is ever so slightly partisan, you might guess.
Fortunately, he is partisan in the direction of thinking he is actually Catholic and upholding the actual Catholic faith. The fortune in that is he doesn't want a church where you believe whatever you want; he's honestly trying to follow the will of God, I think.
"I feel a pathological need to drop kick you in the gullet" isn't all that polite.
@@nashvillain171 Much more polite then what I think Luther would have said. I feel he would have threatened to drown him in a puddle of shit. Exactly what that hymn amounted to. Or something fecal oriented.
There is a great irony about this: the greatest German hymn, (of church hymns; "high music" by JS Bach excluded), begins with the silence of the night, and has lots of nature in it, setting off the miracle of the dawn of redeeming grace. Christ the savior is born, in that quiiet natural setting, the world of men, while it's quiet and "the world" isn't looking.
You should make an album of Lutheran Hymns with the people that sung in this video. I would buy 5 copies.
I'm Anglican, and this is hilarious! Because in some cases it is very true!
I'm a Lutheran
"Not an ancient Egyptian one" - beautiful.
Coming soon: Walther yells at the Methodists.
This is a nineteenth century, pan-European, Romanticist phenomenon, not an English vs. German thing. You get sentimental schlock like O Tannenbaum in nineteenth century Germany, and you get really great hymns like Joy to the World (Isaac Watts) and Hark the Herald Angels Sing (Charles Wesley) in earlier Anglicanism.
+William Rhea That's because Early Anglicans were really just Catholics who didn't agree with the Pope.
+Alexander Fretheim Well, the very earliest, anyway. Edwardian Anglicanism and Cranmer began the turn toward Puritanism, and the failure of William Laud was the last we saw of real Anglo-Catholicism until the Tracterians showed up. In the middle is where you get Watts and Wesley.
+Alexander Fretheim The Christian faith existed with the Anglicans in England prior to the Roman Catholics arriving.
Bill Recher Roman Catholics had been in England since it was Welsh.
+Bill Recher
Umm... the Anglicans, who date only to the sixteenth or seventeenth century, somehow predate the Catholics in England? You have some explaining to do.
I'm an Anglican; our hymns are actually much better than that!
+Barely Protestant (Barely Protestant) I mean really, there's at least FOUR frozen ducks in most Anglican st hymns!
Nicholas Wright And twice as many asses and farts in a Lutheran homily!!!! :P
+Barely Protestant (Barely Protestant)
I am a member at a LCMS church, but I was baptized in the ACC (Anglican). I must say that although there are silly songs that pass for hymns in the Anglican tradition, there are a lot of GOOD Anglican Hymns too. I love trying to sing from my 1928 BoCP.
And... since the English-Speaking Lutherans borrowed most of the liturgy back from the Anglicans (though Luther did help with their original English translations), English speaking Christians of ALL stripes (esp Lutherans who actually use the historic liturgy) owe a debt to the English church in that regard.
Perhaps the Lutherans could borrow melodies from the Anglicans and the Anglicans borrow the words from the Lutherans and we'd have the best of both worlds! (some of the Lutheran hymns are darned hard to sing... good theology wrapped in dark, heavy notes)
Anyway... I'm glad that we (Lutherans) have borrowed the Best Hymns from other church bodies and left the bad ones.
We sang "Oh God our help in ages past" recently at Church... a good Englishman wrote that! (Isaac Watts) although why it wasn't to the St. Anne tune, I'll never understand!)
Thanks for the satire... even if I disagree at one level, I can laugh and enjoy the humor.
Keep the Mass in Christmas this year!
wcbpolish Ah, I'm ACNA; I'd have likely joined the ACC if there were one nearby and my ACNA parish wasn't already amazing. It's a very high Anglo-Catholic church; my priests face ad orientem, we use incense, etc. Lutherans rock, minus a few points of disagreement (no Apostolic Succession for most, closed communion, hatred for Rome, etc.).
I don't know if the Anglican hymns are better or not. We have the market cornered on liturgy, however.
LUTHER IS HORUS!
It all makes sense now!
Just loving this channel. Brand new discovery for me. Although as an Anglican I must say the theology in the hymns is pretty awesome.
I like this video, but Methodist Charles Wesley wrote the best Christmas Hymn:
"Veil’d in flesh, the Godhead see,
Hail the Incarnate Deity!
Pleased as man with men to dwell
Jesus, our Immanuel!"
Unitarian Edmund Sears wrote best about the message of Christmas:
"Yet with the woes of sin and strife
the world has suffered long;
Beneath the angel strain have rolled
two thousand years of wrong;
And man, at war with man, hears not
the love song which they bring;
O hush the noise, ye men of strife
and hear the angels sing."
+Slidegirl Absolutely. As an exception to the rule, this one has become my favorite incarnation manifesto.
I really get annoyed when they decide to "modernize the poetry" or politcally correct it. and in so doing, disrupt the internal rhyme...
"Pleased with us with us to dwell, Jesus our immusuel" ?
Man is already gender neutral. I find it upsetting when people push women out of references to “man” to be PC. :(.
Well, you definitely made a point with the Wesley hymn.
Lol I never thought about it that way. Of course, I'm sure we are more inclined to sing Anglican Christmas hymns because no translation was ever needed. Also, I imagine setting the scene about various random details may make the story more relatable and thus easier for us to remember.
+childofnewlight damn you and your logic!
+Garrett Stock I know, right? I'm always a satire killjoy
+Garrett Stock Why must we be so hateful when talking about things of the Lord? This is supposed to be a season of love, thank God in this country we all have a right to an opinion even if it is in conflict with anothers.
+Lois Tart I'm pretty sure Garret was being sarcastic.
+childofnewlight Certainly he was but that doesn't make it right.
I love how you make the English guys hop around every once in a while when they're talking.
This was fun! As a former LCMS protestant, I think the Lutheran hymns come in second only to the ones in the Orthodox Church. Check them out! And have a blessed Feast of the Nativity. Peace.
+Wynona Fudd
Yes- Orthodox chant is very good. I'm just wary of it because I don't know how much of the Theology is good. Try Catholic. Eastern Catholic if you like Orthodox chants.
+Michael Rex Thanks for your concern, but I converted to Orthodox Christianity after a very long and arduous search. No worries about sound theology here. But I do like Gregorian chant, and Hildegard of Bingen's work. Peace.
Wynona Fudd
Well, as a Catholic, I am now even more concerned. ...though Orthodox are slightly better off than Anglicans, I guess.
+Michael Rex Wow. Thanks. I guess. Bye.
As an Anglican choir singer, I agree with Dr. Martin Luther, and always insist that we often sing Lutheran hymns in my parish...
For this Christmas present, may we all be deeply grateful.
Thanks Lutheran Satire!
I just want you to know that this video has become a Christmas tradition for us. And we are Orthodox lol
"We sing about God in the flesh (Jn 1:1-3) fulfilling biblical prophecy (Lk 24:27), destroying the works of the devil (1 Jn 3:8), burying sin under his infant feet and bringing heaven to earth by His flesh that was sent to be torn apart for our sins upon the cross (Isa 52:14-15; 53:3-5)" I am using this from now on when describing why we as Christians celebrate Christmas when confronted by the HRM crowd. Thank you LutheranSatire, God bless!
Can you please put the recording of that Gerhardt hymn somewhere? Absolutely lovely.
I second the motion.
The hymn can also be heard here: ruclips.net/video/7dGlzzFdZJE/видео.html
Please, please, please do more Mr. Thompson and the Vicar!!! (Asking for an Anglican friend.)
I truly believe Martin Luther would be subscribed to this channel
He'd draw obscene graphics that even Pr. Fiene would refuse to put in.
the last bit about the ancient Egyptian accent had me LOLing hard
Is it quite terrible that I love the Englishmens "hymn?"
God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen
O Come O Come Emmanuel
What Child Is This
Are probably the three best hymns off the top my head because they are a solid cross between Anglican and Ancient Egyptian.
Hark the Herald Angels Sing was already quite good and Charlie Brown gave it a further boost which is rather impressive.
O Come O Come Emmanuel is translated from Latin; I believe it's from the 1100s if not earlier.
pastor fiene should make a full version of "the snow was cold" or whatever he decides to call it
It's funny because most Anglican Advent and Christmas hymns are packed full of theology!
+steakman1989 This is indeed true
I believe the correct phrasing is: "This is most certainly true."
Will take your correction under consideration, Professor.
JR Shire: It wasn't until I became a genuine Christian that the wording of these old hymns had real meaning to me. Now, most every word speaks truth .
I was brought up Church of England. I get the joke: we have beautiful carols, but they do sometimes include scene-setting about quietness and the ox and ass, and the weather etc. Not to the extent of the one in the video, but it's a comic exaggeration. It sounds like Lutheran ones are more seriously theological. Liked the accent joke at the end :-)
"Gaudete" will always be my favourite. Ah, the joys of being a Papist. ^_^
Well, that and "While Shepherds Watch their Flocks by Night".
Gaudete, Gaudete, Christus est natus ex Maria Virgine. Gaudete!
Merry Christmas!
No one can compete with the most ancient Christmas songs. The new ones just don’t come close.
The most ancient one I know is 'O Come O Come Emmanuel', a French hymn from the 12th century.
@@AndyZach "Of the Father's Love Begotten" is a translation of 4th century text.
If Pastor Hans plans on a sequel to this episode, please substitute Sir Cliff Richard for Axl Rose as the angel. 😉 Cliffie's Christmas songs include mistletoe and wine, numb fingers, and raising our glasses to drink to the King! Your choice of wine or grape juice.😉
I briefly attended an Anglo-Catholic (High-Church Anglican) church here in Australia for a few months and they had some of the most beautiful hymns I've ever heard. Not sure where you're getting this from, it's not even accurate.
I’m Catholic and I love this channel. This is one of my favorites.
As far as I'm aware, the lists of animals or nature themes or whatever come from traditional English folk songs - technically a 'carol' is a different kind of music from a hymn
Or how about Gerhardt's "All My Heart Again Rejoices?" By far one of the best Christmas hymns, especially verse 4.
what.... those aren't anglican hymns... those are modern Christmas songs
Which happen to be of Anglican origins XD
Tyler Lowe hmmm I think they're far more evangelist than Anglican
Possibly. Many Anglicans joined evangelic churches during the height of the American Restoration Movement in the 1800s, so Im certain there are a few "crossed lines" throughout the hymnal timeline. That being said, "Silent night....Holy night....all is calm, all is..."
Tyler Lowe well that hymn is quite nice admittedly ... But I guess I'm a high Anglican and don't really like the rest of the "jingle bells" stuff
Wait, Im sorry, but Stille Nacht, is not Anglican originally. And the lyrics get real religiousy real fast.
I now need a duck frozen in a ball of snow for my Nativity! Lol!
I want to hear your rendition of "Oh Jesus Christ, thy manger." Sounds pretty good to me.
You know, Revelation 12 has everything you need for a metal Christmas song. And yet, I still wait for a Christmas song where Jesus curb-stomps a dragon, thus winning an epic battle in a divine war.
Also, the amount of laughter I get out of the line, "we said a German accent. Not ancient Egyptian!" can not be understated!
As an Anglican, touché. I would counter with “What Child Is This,” but considering that the Episcopalian hymnals inherited by the ACNA literally cut out, “Nails, spear shall pierce him through / The cross be borne for me, for you,” in stanza 2 and replace it with the equivalent section of stanza 1, touché all the more.
That song at the end was beautiful!
My goodness, dr Luther. That’s was terrible! Not one line about silent frozen ducks at all! Hahahaha
its almost as if christmas has more to do with snow and ducks and shit than it does with Christianity.
+Sean Davison True!
To be fair, Silent Night is a translation of the German hymn Stille Nacht
Good Morrow. Totally love Lutheran Satire. Was wondering, though...would it be possible to include Horus in more videos in the future? (a personal favorite). All good things and blessings...oh...and....Crumpets Crumpets Crumpets, Scones Scones Scones! C'mon Patrick! :)
"Why does everyone sing your hymns instead of ours?"
Because ours sound better.
How about using the liturgy of St John Chrysostom where we fully enumerate every aspect of our theology like the mentioning and The Hypostatic union and invoking the trinity over 40 times? Why not like The Eastern Orthodox Church Chant entire psalms? How about that?
I mean its not like the Traditional churches exclusively have liturgical chant. Every nation still has vernacular hymns for the unlearned.
I dont actually know how those are implemented in eastern churches. In the traditional latin mass there are some sections where one or two vernacular hymns can be sung in mass.
Is there a full recording of the song at 3:37 available anywhere? Most of the renditions online are instrumental.
Here: ruclips.net/video/7dGlzzFdZJE/видео.html
This is how it feels every christmas. I'm convinced we don't pay any attention to the songs we sing in church.
I'm participating of the Anglican Catholic Church (traditional Anglican ) and yes, most of our hymns are very well done, but this is really funny!
I need an mp4 for my Christmas Playlist, please!
We actually use a large variety of hymns! I personally prefer Lutheran hymns, of course. But, here in the Australian Anglican Church, we use a lot of Lutheran hymns, also methodist ones.
I love this, but it would have been a lot funnier if the title wasn't inherently condescending. It would have worked infinitely better if it was a commentary on English Christmas carols in general. Whatever good points it makes are undermined pretty severely by the need to make it an insult against a specific branch of Christianity.
Used the wrong tune for Gerhardt. Crüger...the hymnal committee removed a Johann Crüger tune. Replaced it with a tune more suited to a lounge act.
Who cares? When my mother was an organist/choir director she used the Lutheran Black Hymnal where it was better, let alone the Red or Green Hymnals.
I really liked the hymn Luther was singing that was awesome.
"The God who never ever gets a chill even when the ducks are cold" 😭😭
Can’t believe it’s been 4 years since this came out
"I say! That was terrible!"
J.S. Bach would not have liked UK favourite Mistletoe and Wine either! In which Herr Cliff Von Richard blathers about how wonderful numb fingers are!
The German Christmas hymns are very meaningful. I love the Luthern hymnbook .
Have reminded since a year ago.
Horus please :D
This is only because in the uk we can’t cope with the cold of winter
Neither could the German Nazis endure the cold winter while slouching - goose stepping? - toward Russia. Where would any native German (Lutheran and/or Catholic?) be without the Americans and the British, i.e., the Anglos, helping them rebuild for decades after WW2? The hauteur on this site is breathtaking, as is the growing arogance of the German led EU.
As an Anglican, this is too funny and too true.
The Holden Caulfield in me sympathizes with the Anglicans.
But seriously, good show all round.
Outstanding video!! Merry Christmas!!!
I am Anglican and this doesn't even come close to Christmas hymn we sing. This is a total miss.
+Acton Rand Schaeffer I'm not familiar with Lutheran hymns, but I guess they're generally more heavy on the theology than Anglican ones, and this is just an exaggeration for comedy. It's true some famous Anglican carols do have plenty of stuff that's not just serious theology about Christ incarnating and redeeming our sins etc, and that set the scene and paint pictures in some way, including stuff about the weather and animals.. How about In the deep midwinter (frosty wind made moan/ earth stood hard as iron/ water as a stone....). Or Good King Wenceslas. Or O little town of Bethlehem. Or Away in a manger (and they're just a few of the first carols that came to my mind - I'm from a Church of England background). They all have quite a lot of stuff that LutheranSatire would probably think is extraneous window dressing and not getting to the point (but are nice to sing!) :p
Careful what you say about "Away in a Manger"... Martin Luther wrote that!
I think the Lutherans are just jealous that no one sings Lutheran hymns every Christmas.
The Closed Captioning is hilarious!!
For anyone who wants the full lyrics to "Silent Frozen Ducks", here they are (as best as I can make them out):
The snow was cold and the snow was bright and the snow was all around,
For Christ was born on the day when God sent snow upon the ground.
For God has now come down to earth in a manger filled with hay,
Near an ox and an ass and a sheep and a duck and a goose, that cold, cold day.
On Christmas night not a sound was heard in Bethlehem below,
Because all the ducks and the geese and the sheep were frozen in the snow.
So now with an angelify let's praise the God who's big and bold,
The God who never ever gets a chill even when the ducks are cold.
Bwahahahahahaha 😆🤣😆🤣 I recognised Horus' voice. He looks great as Martin Luther!!
Just thought I'd point out that Joy to the World was written by a British dude. (Not sure if he was Anglican or not though.)
Then again it was originally written about the RETURN of Christ, so it may not technically count. :P
Watts was very much not Anglican. His dad spent time in prison for non-conformity.
Isaac Watts was a nonconformist (a non-Anglican Christian in England).
love the videos... but has anyone asked what the Christians in the first century church did during December? Ill give you a hint... it wasn't celebrating Christmas.
Apparently, the Paul Gerhardt hymn is not very common in Germany (at least I did not recognise the melody). What is its German title?
Ha! So, "In the Bleak Midwinter"?...
Snow + Mary = best Catholic hymn ever!
Snow fell all around. Snow on snow, snow on snow.
The Evangelical Lutheran Church here in Canada is doing joint church activity with the Anglican Church.
I can not stop laughing...
Very funny.
As you take down your Christmas decorations this week, if nostalgia gets the better of you, this may help.
Love the Horus nod! Good stuff!
Where was that English music from its beautiful
I know this is 5 years too late, but anyone know where I can find some English Paul Gerhardt hymns on Spotify 😂
The Germans are good at producing their own songs of that sort:Leise rieselt der Schnee,
Still und starr ruht der See,
Weihnachlicht glänzet der wald.
Freue dich,’s Christkind kommt bald!
In den Herzen wird’s warm,
Still schweigt Kummer und Harm,
Sorge des Lebens verhalt.
Freue dich,’s Christkind kommt bald!
Bald ist heilige Nacht,
Chor der Engel erwacht,
Hört nur, wie lieblich es schallt:
Freue dich,’s Christkind kommt bald!
Freue dich,’s Christkind kommt bald!And the Germans are good at coming up with Christmas carols that turn out to be more about Mary, like "Maria durch ein' Dornwald ging" and "Joseph Lieber, Joseph Mein'".And the Anglicans have some decent ones. "Once in Royal David's City" is very nice if one drops the works-righteous third and fourth verses; "God Rest You Merry, Gentlemen" is pretty solid, as is "What Child Is This".
For this Christmas, I have elected to read the second chapter of Luke's gospel and then the entirety of Athansius' "On The Incarnation." Can never get the kids into proper christology too soon!