Fully Charged LIVE Heads North with Dan Caesar | The Fully Charged Podcast
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 13 май 2023
- In this episode, Fully Charged Show’s CEO Dan Caesar steps back into the hot seat again to talk about the success of Fully Charged LIVE South in Farnborough and everything you might not know about the upcoming Harrogate show, the first Fully Charged LIVE show up North ever!
As Harrogate is hotting up, Robert talks about his recent trip to Norway, the FT’s Future of the Car event, V2G and there’s some gleeful confusion about the difference between the McMurtry Speirling and Munro EVs, which are both pretty excellent in their own right.
If you haven’t got tickets already, head to the booking website below to grab your tickets for the World’s #1 Home Energy & Electric Vehicle Show!
fullychargedlive.seetickets.c...
Please help us reach 100k subscribers on this channel by SUBSCRIBING, LIKING & SHARING this podcast with all your friends! We really do appreciate all the support.
Become a Patreon: / fullychargedshow
Become a RUclips member: use JOIN button above
Subscribe to Fully Charged & the Everything Electric Show channels
Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : buff.ly/2GybGt0
Browse the Fully Charged store: shop.fullycharged.show/
Visit our LIVE exhibitions in Australia, UK, USA, Canada & Europe: fullycharged.live/
Subscribe for episode alerts and the Fully Charged newsletter: fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/
Visit: FullyCharged.Show
Find us on Twitter: / fullychargedshw
Follow us on Instagram: / fullychargedshow 
Наука
As a forgetful 'late middle-aged' man myself, it's always very comforting to listen to a couple of other 'gentlemen of a certain age' forgetting stuff on a podcast! ;-) This was a very enjoyable conversation to listen to. Thanks for the very kind shout out, and I look forward to seeing you all in Harrogate!
Dave I really hope you or FC will record your gentlemanly chat with Robert and put it out on RUclips. Just can't get there this year and I'd love to see your little natter.💚🙏😄
Gutted i missed you at FCL south was working and filming for my channel. Love your channel 👍⚡️💪
Just planning the trip 250 miles in a leaf with a range of 110 miles, getting a full English breakfast and a fully charged car at Peterborough. I am just amazed at how many charger are available now.... So many more in the last 18 months that I have been driving my leaf.
Looking forward to the 7 hour trek South to go Oop North.MG5 will be tested to see its long range abilities.The event looks very interesting.
I must be the only person in the UK who is running V2H with a Setec 6kw unit off our Nissan Leaf, it runs our ASHP and Office. Will be at Harrogate on Sunday!
How much did it cost ? Not heard of them . I have a leaf 40 and 3kw solar.
Your observation regarding 'bad actors' and 'nonsense stories' pushed by organisations and people with vested interests caught my attention. I couldn't agree more and, like you, I have noticed that they are coming through with increasing regularity as the profitability of fossil fuels comes under threat. Not only is this an incidious disinformation campaign, but tragically it's succesful with some sections of society. The conservative parties of Australia have been passed masters of failing to support the production and use of renewable energy. We are indeed fortunate to have people such as yourselves and so many others around the planet, who help to keep the discourse balanced, thank you!
“Fireside Chats” should henceforth be referred to as “Heat Pump-Adjacent Conversations”.
My brain has been prodding me about what is incongruous about the "fireside" chats?....😆😂...ah but I'm just hearing them referring to "electric fireside"😂🤣😂🤣😂
Great for a listen and laugh over a cuppa. Good to see you guys together again for a chat. Cheers from Downunder 👍
Thank you. Just a correction - carbon capture and storage (CCS) in depleted oil fields, to increase the oil pressure spitting out, was developed in the 1970s. So it's has been around for almost 50 years, and hasn't improved significantly enough to make it worthwhile.
I love the way fully charged brings together so many great individuals into a friendly fun team
Great to see you two back on the scene. Missed you, Bobbie! Good luck at the show this weekend. Sounds like it's going great! Cheers from Eindhoven, The City of [Electric] Lights.
Thumbs up from one of the 7% (female audience) ... appreciate your easy style Robert and Dan's million dollar smile ☺
Wow!
Robert in what seems to be 4k with Dan presenting in closer to 360p?
.
Well done Robert!! 😉
50:37 Gentlemen my heart skipped a beat when you were discussing the viability of freight containers filled with batteries. I see so many ways these portable power systems can be deployed during natural disasters, backup for hospitals, or command and control operations. They would be filler for gaps in car charging routes through under developed areas. I am hoping that Polyjoule continues to develop a more energy dense chemistry to go with their no cooling requirements.
Thanks so much for your efforts in bringing us this venue for energy-related dialog.
Look forward to seeing you all in Harrogate. Another great podcast.
Farnborough show on the Saturday was glorious weather so we got lucky. The show was very good and informative, well worth the visit. The GW Ora looks premium and a lovely surprisingly sized car. The Tesla line for test drives was by far the longest that I saw during my time there 👍
P.S. Dan, totally with your view about focussing on those things about the EV, like the engineering, efficiency and cheapness to run, rather than being big and muscly means everything to me. Being smaller and more affordable to buy is the next objective for the sake of our children.
Please keep us informed about new stuff. Not only is it interesting and uplifting to see what may come, but it also gives these start ups valuable exposure which just might be the difference between success and failure.
You touched on a point I had never thought of concerning battery swapping. Of course they can be very gently charged can't they? I think batteries are robust enough that most wouldn't benefit (but would from the ten minute swap), but for some sectors, as you said, UBER and taxis, it could extend the life of the battery from perhaps eight years to.....forever.
Can’t quite see Dan’s prices on his board behind him but I’ll have a cup of tea and beans on toast.
The irony of Robert's promises not to do his northern/Yorkshire accent & Dan's assertions about keeping an eye on him, will be that there's bound to be a local Yorkshire lad or lass that asks Robert to give it a go just for a laugh; however will he ever be able to resist such temptation? 😅
The Fully Charged Show fan who doesn't LOVE Robert's imitations of accents, etc, would be a rare wee beastie indeed. 😊
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
Could you do a show on the electric buses in London and how they're doing? I occasionally use the 125 which is a long route with hills and I've heard people moaning that they aren't good enough. But they seem ok to me and are a joy to ride. Though maybe that's as they're new.😅
Such a good chat between you two guys. Really looking forward to getting up to Harrogate for the show on Saturday, even though it's just a couple of weeks since I went to Farnborough. So many interesting talks, and company stands to visit, never mind the test drives. Keep up the good work.
Fantastic podcast again and looking forward to Harrogate and hopefully haviung a chat!
I wish the charger companies would all get together and just produce the single best charger...rather than any chance of ending up with hundreds of different ones all over the place all with slightly differing controls or needing things like different apps to get them to work.
That would (undoubtedly) mean them agreeing to use the Tesla system.
Unlikely to happen.
Needs it
But like phone charger cables, may need to be legally forced
Looking forward to taking the Ioniq5 on its first long trip from Dorset to Lancs and then onto Harrogate. Looking forward to the show.
Great chat guys 👍
Looking forward to meeting you all on Saturday!! And please Bobby…, do some Yorkshire accents!!!!! 😂
Well done. We’re looking forward to meeting you at Harrogate at the weekend.
Vehicle to Home (V2H) chargers, we need more info on this.
Looking forward to some future episodes featuring events from FC North.
Great show as always.
But RE the solar panels on car discussion: Would you pay *extra* for a car with solar panels or would you rather put that money to better use?
The panels are not free even if included in the price.
They will add complexity to the vehicle, making it much more costly to repair when damaged - not to mention more likely to be written off in an accident. This will likely push up premiums on cars that contain them, as it's something that insurance companies will have to factor in to their costing.
They will also likely not add much range in places like the UK, where the amount of time spent in direct sunlight is likely to be very low.
Of course there will be exceptions to this depending on where your car is usually parked when not in use, but mostly it is a gimmick for this part of the world, as they will be sat in the dark.
Thank you for acknowledging the #reGroupies poster child’s hypocrisy 🇮🇸
I’m looking forward to show
The Hydrogen World Conference was in Rotterdam last week, sponsored by Shell, BP and Exxon/Mobil of course!
I met someone charging his Car [MERC 350EV] the other day, and he was a retired Oil Exec. He said that the Oil Industry is pushing the Hydrogen theme, as they see it as their future, and they have the money to throw at it and make it work.
I wanna see the McMunry and the Murtro stuck to the ceiling :D
Saw you in Bjørn’s video at the nordic ev summit
Is there any way of watching recordings of some of the talks and sessions at Fully Charged Live
Sadly will not be with you at Harrogate in my new MG ZS EV, which is a great car. On longer trips I’ve taken to keeping a tally of EVs by just counting the green stripes. I’m noticing already that the count keeps rising steadily, and that the variety of models I spot keeps going up too. On a typical two-hour journey it is usually 20-30 EVs total, of which around 50% are Teslas, but maybe that’s because they are so easy to recognise. A very unscientific survey, I know, but it keeps me amused on a long trip. Have a great show in the North.
😄Always leave in the hapless reflections😂👍
I like the idea of PV on cars, but I also recognize that there may be a better place to put PV panels. For example a panel may generate more energy if it is on the roof of a house, and that energy could then be sent to the grid via a net metering setup. If a PV panel is on a car that is parked in the shade or is on a fully charged car in the sun, then the panel is not being used to its full advantage. We need to use our limited resources to best advantage.
Hi Robert, great show. I’ve been told that huge que’s have built up of teslas trying to get charged. Is that just the usual fud?
Yes it is.
Next question?
Thank you for the great videos and content.
Solar panels on cars seems like a really interesting possibility. You even see this as an option on the up and coming Toyota Prius Prime. The laws of thermodynamics tend to nullify a lot of what seem like good ideas.
How much gain do you actually get from solar panels on a car roof when you take into consideration the offset of the extra weight that it adds to the vehicle, the loss of energy as the energy is passed from the panel and through the system to the battery and finally the loss as that energy is again discharged to drive the car (battery to electric motor(s) to the drivetrain). After all loss throughout the system occurs, is the energy gained worth the added cost and weight to the vehicle?
I do like that the new Prius Prime seems to be using the solar panel's enery gain to power small accessories in the car and offload those from the main battery pack. This seems like a much more feasible usage, if the added weight is not to significant.
Hope it's a succesful show in Harrogate - I might go one day but the only thing I can stretch to currently is the brand New Hyundai I just bought - a Lawn Mower!!
EV's are way out of my comfort zone at the current over-pricing.👍
Are these chats discussed at the events recorded for those of us who haven't been able to attend the shows due to other commitments? Would love to hear the opinions of others.
**WARNING** … if I see you at Harrogate … look out for an old guy with a black Fully Charged cap on, who might just approach you and give you a big Bro-Hug! Truth is I got solar and a BEV before I got hooked on and became a subscriber/supporter of the Fully Charged show. Now have a Powerwall and a Tesla and continue in a quest to reduce our carbon emissions and save more energy. However, several years before all this, I recall seeing some journalist or other coming to Robert’s house to talk about your love of the EV (you had your old Model S at the time) and renewable stuff. Who was that and what programme, I cannot remember. Anyway, that stuck in my mind and, for me too, you continue not only to be a huge influence and resource on all things electric, but above all that and the cr*p that’s going on in a fossil-fuelled world, you provide such an enjoyable relief with your self-deprecating humour and humility. Long, long may your messages of ‘Fully Charged’ / ‘Everything Electric’ / ‘Stop Burning Stuff’ / ‘Stop the FUD’ continue to have its huge influence on those who still doubt and on saving the human race from self-combusting … !!
Really enjoyed FC South. See you guys in Harrogate. As someone, who doesn't understand the appeal of the large SUV, I'm hoping the likes of the ID Buzz will show people that the MPV format is a much better and safer option for big families and weekend campers. It will be good to see more estate EVs come to market too. I'd love to see a Model 3 estate, but I can't ever see that happening. Surely you will have an E-Up in Harrogate? 😉
A Model 3 estate would equate to a less aerodynamic model Y.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Not at all. The Model Y is an SUV with a bigger frontal area. And the greater grounds clearance also causes more drag. Plus you are assuming that the estate would be vertical at the tailgate. Whereas, most modern estates have great aero efficiency, much like the custom built Model S estate that was lighter and more aerodynamic than the Model S it was based on.
Lol I wasnone of those whp was critical of Silverstone and even more critical of Farnbrough. Yes was not fully aware of your plans of course. Looking forward to Harrogate this year.
If you offer EV’s VAT free the way Norway has, then in Europe and the UK yes you will get the sort of uptake Norway has (ICE vehicles you have to pay VAT). Unless the price comes down by at least 20% were stuffed. BYD has been a disaster in mainland Europe because of the ‘car stealers’ (dealers) + Import duty + VAT. That was a fiasco. They need to get this sorted.
Oslo wont have any EIS-busses from next year, I believe. The same is true for taxies.
Yes, the Hyundai Ioniq 5, P45 model got solar roof ☀️
I'd already seen the Oslo event reviewed by Bjørn Nyland.
The most hilarious(?) part was Bjørn "jumping" Robert for an impromptu, slightly awkward interview during what was intended to be Roberts lunch break, with Bjørn not getting Roberts subtly English "great to see you but I really want to eat" message, while possibly trying to remember Bjørns' name(?) as Bjørn tries to formulate interesting questions on the fly.
.
(Should have invited him to Harrogate!?)
Really wanted the Sono Sion...the perfect car for us in size and shape. The solar would have helped the fact that we have no home charging but a very sunny parking space.😢
I started with a small cheap one.. a Twizzy(450kg), but then went up to a super heavy i3 (1200kg) 😅
Horses for courses
Carbon capture, hydrogen and bio fuels can all help towards net zero, providing they’re done responsibly. The problem I have is that every time I’ve looked at them it’s taken me to the feet of the oil and gas men. Carbon capture = Oil industry using the captured carbon for fracking and flushing out oil. Hydrogen = over 95% of hydrogen produced produced by the oil industry. Bio fuels = only 7% of your gas tank containing ethanol, so that “green fuel” requires 93% gas/oil. Having said all that there is some fantastic work being done. UTAH for example are building the worlds largest Electrolysis plant (need that to produce green hydrogen) and I believe they’re powering that by solar and wind. Pink hydrogen is going to have to be made (yes, cleaner than green hydrogen). I see the future as mini nuclear power stations rockin up on large transporters and powering steel works etc etc, and airports - hydrogen for planes (the ‘Pink” mini nuclear powers the electrolysis plant then they use the hydrogen for the planes). The critical thing for hydrogen is that it’s close to where you want to use it, storing and transporting hydrogen a nightmare. Really impracticable for cars and even lorries (Tesla?). So yes, you can and should use all of these green ‘powers’, and there are excellent conditions to use them, but we’ve got to wake up to the oil and gas industry because they’re going to hold everyone back. Profits before progress and health. The problem of course will then become more acute if a country has been ‘talking the talk’ but not ‘walking the walk’ as they end up in an economic crisis. Exactly what Legacy motors are heading towards. Not good on a whole number of levels. Excited about the changes, a little concerned at the greedy causing mayhem.
Morning guys
Have you seen ( The Electric Viking ) This guy seems to know lots
Headline driven, technically suspect.
The Electric Viking presented at the Sydney show
Covers more of the worlds best information on anything to do with the transition to EVs. Particularly from China and advances in batteries.🤔
As for the size of cars, I drive a Jazz and when I saw a Mitsubishi i-MiEV I thought now that is the size car I would like to own. Granted, I don't drive much these days but that thing with Solar panels would do me just fine. I have to park on the street so that solar would keep it charged most of the time, here in the sunshine state. Cheers, would like to see more none car things. Better ways to build a house or even engineered timber highrise buildings. Just a thought.
When you say engineered lumber do you mean laminated bamboo? Currently you can grow enough bamboo on a quarter acre plot to rebuild a small house in a fraction of the time trees would require.
@@russellvatcher4753 No, but I think bamboo is a fantastic source of materials. It grows fast it can be turned into so many things. Its outside is hard because it has silica.
I know of one highrise building in Sydney made from mainly engineered timber. It went up faster and with less disruption to surrounding buildings and roads. It wasn't the first in the world, I think there is one in Chicago and a few in Europe. They are made in factories and then put together on-site. This reduces waste and speeds up the on-site building requiring fewer foundations further reducing steel and concrete.
I do hope you'll film and broadcast on RUclips the Gentlemanly Rant... We're unable to come this year due to a sick m-i-l but would love hear that. 👍💚👍
@@judebrown4103 Was this meant for me?
@@johnsamsungs7570 oh sorry John😂 just another old person cock-up I'm afraid! ( Gosh I hope you're British😆)
No of course it was meant to go in the main comments, no idea how it got into your replies, do forgive me for bothering you.🙏 No idea how to move it though 🤣😏
it would be great if you could do a show at the NEC in Birmingham as its pretty central for most people and access is brilliant trains plains and roads just an idea like and I bet you would fill the halls and there are places to test run the cars as well and it's all on the tarmac and because of your show I have now got an electric car no other show converted me yours did and Robert of course who test ran the car and had one on the fleet so thank you I would never go back and this is from a petrol head and a mechanic retired early who did notice cars had gone as far as they are going to get with fuels so much VW had to cheat and most likely a few more until they go caught.
This year Norway reintroduced its very high tax on EV cars. That will put an end to the high EV sales. At least until the range problem is solved.
It's not a "very high tax".
It's "25% on the portion of the price OVER NOK 500,000"
.
Buy a car under NOK 500,000, ZERO VAT.
NOK 700,000, 25% on 20k, so NOK 50,000
Equivalent over the total
NOK 700,000 of 7.1% VAT.
.
Not to mention they still maintain a tax advantage on leased cars, company cars, road and ferry tolls, etc.
.
It's to be expected as the percentage of EVs grows.
I have a Zappi charger on my wall connected to a house battery and some solar panels. All because of Fully Charged. And while it is your fault, I couldn't be happier.
Actually, I could. I should have bought a bigger battery!
When is Andy going to be hosting another episode of the normal show? I've missed him and seems like you've totally forgotten about him, get some more Electric Motorbikes out for him and Charly to review again.
Burning Hydrogen in Small Engines is just nuts. But in large shipping maybe. Biofuels made from algae is a must for flying long haul. The algae can be grown in saltwater so it won't take the land away from growing food.
The trouble with Hydrogen for shipping?
.
You (still) need 3x the green energy to liberate it.
.
That "liberation" must be available either on board (where does the energy come from?)
Or
At any port the vessel may visit.
.
The local grid generation at those locations must be sufficient to support production AND that grid must be "green".
.
The vessel (unless I'm mistaken?) Will still need a "battery buffer" between the fuel cell system and the drive motors.
.
If I understand correctly, when used for land vehicles, transport of hydrogen from place of production to place of use, requires about 20x the volume of road tanker capacity to move the same energy as fossil fuels?
That means, unless it's produced at the dock, a similar increase in capacity is required with associated road traffic, pollution (?) cost and fleet maintenance.
It also means 10x storage volume on the vessel (!)
.
Then I noticed you specify "BURNING" hydrogen in small engines....."
Are you suggesting these ships use an internal combustion engine?
.
That's taking an inefficient storage medium and applying it to an inefficient drive unit.
It would be well below 20% overall system efficiency.
.
Use in large vessels actually *magnifies* the problem!
@@rogerstarkey5390 Yes, it takes a lot of energy to split water but in time we should build a lot of extra none greenhouse pollution generation. Sth Korea and Japan are steering their countries to be all in on Hydrogen. I think for storage and transportation it will probably be in the form of ammonia as it is easier. Also, ammonia is wildly used in manufacturing. Ammonia can be used as fuel in diesel engines that power those huge ships, the NOx problem is solved by injecting small amounts of ammonia into the hot exhaust.
Of course, this will take time and a lot of money to do. Maybe New ships will be built with small nuclear power plants. But something will have to be done as shipping has a large pollution footprint.
@@johnsamsungs7570 "non-greenhouse pollution generation" only solves the hydrogen problem when there is NO "greenhouse pollution generation" to displace.
.l
Let's say we have sufficient green generation for 90% capacity, but somebody decides they want 5% of the total (at point of use) to be via Hydrogen?
..
That 5% requires 15% ("units") of the "90% green" units to produce.
It "gives back" 5 units (discounting storage/ transport losses)
The grid is now 90-15+5 = 80% green.
.
Hydrogen resulted in a LESS green grid, a DIRTIER grid.
.
If you want that 5% to be not "green", but "irrelevant", you require *110% green grid capacity*.
.
But at that point, you're OVER 100%!
WHY do you need hydrogen?
.
That's the logic bomb.
.
Only in specialist niche uses such as steel production, where it replaces coal/ coke.
.
In those cases, produce it on site, with green supply NOT from the main grid.
.
Edit.
As for Ammonia....
Really???. (/s)
@@rogerstarkey5390 The electricity grid has to have more than 100 per cent generation that is how it has been for a very long time. Hydrogen is not the best way to go except for manufacturing to clean that up.
But hydrogen is going to be a thing as I have stated Sth Korea and Japan are going ahead with it. I'm not arguing for it, Jesus Christ. But if it is going to happen then it has to be transported and it is easier to move it coupled with nitrogen! Ammonia is moved around on our roads now. Ammonia is used a lot for feedstock for a lot of manufacturing. Also, nitrogen is needed for fertiliser.
Try learning some chemistry etc! I'm not here for you to pick arguments with.
Talk about the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Why dont you guys talk about the Xbus from the german company Electric Brands - hoping to get mine early 2024
close to 1kw of solar panels on top. should be more like 30km of range generated from the car.
"30km of range generated from the car"...... Over what time period?
(That'll be Watt HOURS)
.
Let's guess.... With a few assumptions.
It's a "bus"?
Best case from "1kW" of horizontal (?) panels.... Over 8 hours, during summer?
60% capacity due to angle, shade, cloud, etc?
4.8kWh?
Can it travel 30 km on 4.8kWh?
How about in September? November?
It’s a very light vehicle. L72. But it’s still prototype. So real world mileage will still have to be tested. They start production early 2024.
I’m curious more why fully charged never made a video about it.
Fully Charged North? No it’s Fully Charged A Bit Less South…………… Come on I know of at least a dozen people travelling from Central and Northern Scotland just to see the Fisker Ocean and Munro Mk1 and how are they getting there? Mostly in diesel cars! How about a Fully Charged A Bit Further North at the Royal Highland Show Ground, Ingleston or just off the M9 right under Stirling Castle……………
Dan you also made the terrible error of referring to the U.K. as England near the start……….
"North" is entirely valid as a name, given that Yorkshire is in the North of England. But I suspect that if the show were held near Edinburgh, you might be complaining that it should be entitled "Fully Charged Scotland" or "Fully Charged Central Belt". As for "a bit less South", well Yorkshire is about half way up the British mainland, so isn't in the south by any means. The fact is that there are probably about 15 million people living within a couple of hours of Harrogate, and maybe 5 million within within a couple of hours of Ingleston.
Btw, I totally agree about using England as shorthand for the UK: that was appalling.
Robert/ Dan
.
"V2G"
Why not
V2H
Plus
Home to Megapack.
Plus
Megapack to Grid.
.
Home solar from a group of homes, feeds communal battery (delivered with all plug and play connections).
.
Megapack provides SINGLE connection to grid.
.
Vehicle can still run the home if required, but no (expensive) home battery needed.
.
Community gains from grid arbitrage.
Oslo is not all of Norway. Outside the Oslo zone the majority of cars are fossil, there is little to no affordable public transport and that which is there is diesel driven. Because everyone praises Norway they do not feel the need to improve on this state of affairs because they are already perfect.
nobody, or body (government or otherwise) are perfect, but one would expect the Capital to lead the way...
@@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 true, also you'd expect same said governement to at least try to make an effort to take everyone along. Yet public transport has been actively been toned down. As I write they are contemplating building a huge road right smack in the middle of a nature reserve as the road is not sufficient for all the heavy transport being trucked around in diesel trucks because building a better railroad is not even to be mentioned. Norway is hailed as this wonderland and this gives the governement the feeling they do not need to improve the energy system nor to invest in better ways of making and distributing energy.
@@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 Norway is worldchampion greenwashing. Scratch the surface of and you find plastic waste under it all. I love living here but do get tired of all this praise. Norway has money, money can make anything look nice and shiny.
Hydrogen Fool Cells
See previous post by John Samsung S7
I'm loving all the new green tech and all these new companies but what about reliability are we all going to be complaining about it all going wrong in a few years and how many of these companies still be around in say 5 years
Hydrogen cars and other vehicles might be fine (though the whole energy cycle is inefficient compared to battery) but the dark secret is how the hydrogen is mostly generated,
The even darker secret is that using green energy to liberate hydrogen is still dirty, since it requires three times the green energy to (for instance) move a comparable vehicle a given distance.
.
Result? Two parts (66%) of that energy could have been used to directly displace fossil fuel generation elsewhere on the grid.
.
Conclusion?
Hydrogen from any source results in the grid remaining dirty.
This applies all the way to "100% green" at which point, why do we need hydrogen? (outside of the "high energy" chemical processes such as steel making)
If in Norway 80% of all new car sales are EV's, then I would like to know why in Norway 20% of new car sales are still petrol or diesel? What goes through the mind of someone living in Norway who buys a petrol or diesel car?
Often the inability to tow a decent sized trailer or caravan and poor efficiency of EV’s when towing is the reason not to go for an EV.
@@garysmith5025
No.
To this point (UK) it's largely been
Purchase price.
Availability.
Misinformation.
All of these are changing.
@@garysmith5025
Just out of interest, define the journey that means "85%" of UK drivers couldn't use an EV?
@@timoliver8940
What percentage of drivers tow in the UK?
Of that number, what percentage tow over 50 miles each way.
@@rogerstarkey5390 The key two words in Gary's comment were "They believe".
e-fuels and hydrogen are for the wealthy. Luxury legacy vehicles really need these expensive and inefficient fuels. There are enthusiasts who maintain and operate coal-fired steam cars, these e-fuel vehicles will be for similar people I think.
E-fuels and Hydrogen are for
1) The "uninformed"
.
2) Those not wishing to be informed
.
3) Those "with skin in the game" (in the industry)
.
4) A category I can't classify without offending them.
(Involves counting .....)
Aptera
Niche
@@rogerstarkey5390Aptera😂
Translation from the Greek, without wings. It refers to the extremely aerodynamic design.🤔
Isn’t the reason that the industry is still trying to push hydrogen cars because hydrogen will be a commodity that consumers would still always need to purchase but electric power could be independently individual produced and hence no money going to companies. Companies don’t want to loose out on the revenue of selling fuel and so push hydrogen. Simple as that…no?
There's also the "we can still use fossil fuel and greenwash" element.
When it comes to biofuels the same environmental issues pop up as we (already) have with the existing problematic & (largely) industrial farming methods currently used; that of monoculture, tillage, fertiliser & pesticide usage. All of which contributes both directly & indirectly to carbon emissions from the soil & supply chains in addition to killing off the microorganisms in the soil that perform a crucial role in water & nutrients uptake by plants, most of which are food for humans & animals alike.
Despite what many proponents of these fuel types would have us believe, they're essentially just a continuation of the business as usual model that so many companies & individuals have vested interests in.
Continuation of the 'business as usual' model is no longer a viable option in relation to climate change and a liveable future for all life on our blue marble floating through space. 🌍 🌎
Go Tesla woohoo 😎😼🌎🌍 Musk-eteer Elon Musk for the King of the World 🚀 SpaceX 🌌🦮🦯🚕 Mars-bound woohoo
Guzzle that Koolaid!
Channel disappointment. Too woke without sound engineering and finance grounding.
Your dismal of hydrogen just shows how much lack of knowledge you both posses on the topic. You are suffering from being Musked. It would be best for your reputation if you say no more on the topic.