Unanticipated Benefits of Moving to Electric with Robert Safrata | The Fully Charged Podcast 193
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Easing his way into the New Year, in this week’s podcast Robert speaks with Robert Safrata, a Vancouver based entrepreneur and former Canadian Olympic Alpine Team skier.
With over 25 years experience in acquiring, building and growing companies (Canadian) Robert takes (Fully Charged) Robert through his approach to making sure sustainability is at the heart of all that he does.
As inaugural member of Vancouver’s “Greenest City Action Team”, helping the city toward the goal of making Vancouver the greenest city in the world by 2020, Robert explains how by moving a business to a more sustainable future can yield many positive and unanticipated benefits not only for the company, but also for the employees and the wider local area.
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Unanticipated benefit: I got an electric car 2 years ago and appreciate the cleaner air in and around the car. On the occasions when I travel in an ICE car I'm painfully aware of the smell of exhaust.
@theogibb5739 bet you don't miss going into stinky fuel stations either.
That is so true. I can't believe I never noticed the noxious output of ICE cars before!
I was driving Renault Zoes, when the pandemic came along. When I had to go out, it was such a great experience to drive on quiet unpolluted roads in a quiet non polluting car.
A couple of weeks ago my ID3 went to the VW dealer for an inspection. The next day my colleague took me to work and back in his quite young Ford Focus Fusion diesel. I was car sick. In my entire life I have never been car sick. His car was relatively quiet and smooth for what it was, but to me it was cold, noisy, it vibrated, and the manual drivetrain was jerky and uneven - and he's a smooth driver. Honestly, it shocked me because I was looking forward to chatting with him. Later, he took me back to my dealer. I couldn't wait to get back in my BEV.
But beeing in an electric car behind an unfiltered diesel pick up truck hurts double.
Both of you are extraordinary human beings not just in your talents, but also in your respectful way of connecting and sharing.
Thank you for being such good role models.
What a lovely interview. So much inspired good work that translates into commercial success and distributed benefit for drivers too.
13:00 "I like it too much!" Totally relate. Got a 2012 I-miev with tiny battery, but since we have solar and upkeep was almost nothing I took it every chance I could. It was so fun just to putter around the back roads listening to music or visiting friends. Definite time suck
I like my model 3, but still cycle to work(28 mile round trip) twice a week and at weekends and walk.
One of my favourite podcast FC episodes this far. A fascinating conversation.
THANKS ROBERT, FOR SHARING ROBERT WITH US 🤗👍😎💚💚💚
Fantastic conversation. I was struck by Robert Safrata saying he noticed how clean the air was when he went skiing for the first time. I was reminded of all the other things we have to hunt out because of the effect we have on the planet, crystal clear waterways, truly dark skies where we can see the breathtaking beauty of the Milky Way and just places where you can't see anything man made. We should all be able to enjoy these things, perhaps we will if we continue as we are now.
I think everyone should get to experience living amongst nature, even if it's just for one month. I lived in a wooden lodge, in 60 acres of meadow and woodland, overlooking Lyme Bay on the South Devon coast. It was priceless to just be able to open the front door and go for a walk amongst the heather, trees and long grass, watching the butterflies, bats, owls, buzzards, deer, foxes, slow-worms, wood peckers. The seasons came and went, no two days the same. Total bliss
@@dougowt That sounds idyllic.
Happy New Year Fully Charged! This continues to be my good news for the future fix channel so I look forward to the news you will bring to us in 2023!
From what your guest said at the end I want to know why you aren’t in the New Years honours list for your contribution towards a sustainable future.
Love these podcasts. You have some amazing and incredibly interesting guests.
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
1:14 I love the two Zappis at work. I really do. So simple to use. So reliable. I plug my ID3 in and go inside to work. Sometimes 80 or 90%. Occasionally 100% [naughty]. I come out at break time and it's already over. So I sit in the car and turn on the heat and seats and within seconds I'm toasty. And I can see the Zappi already putting in the tiniest bit more again to compensate. So, during 28-30th last week I popped into work because this year was my time in. Only the barrier that the Zappis are behind hadn't been lifted [WHAT???]. The guy whose job it is had the week off, dammit. And nobody else had been arranged [typical]. So I was left to struggle with ONLY 150 MILES in the battery until Jan 3rd. [ONLY, he complains - I'm not, I'm totally joking]. But I did miss my Zappis. If you have a driveway, get one. They're brilliant. It's a good idea to have an electric car to go with one. Or it isn't much use. 😊
Another very interesting episode, thanks for sharing. I love how he looks at a buisiness problem with a positive view, like "ok this is expensive so how can we make it worth while".
We just vacationed in New York City, and there are e-bike delivery people everywhere! Cheers!
My boy started Middle school this year and started taking a school bus for the first time. I was very excited to see his bus is an electric bus. An unanticipated benefit is that I can argue that if he misses his bus we will have to use more dirty fossil fuel to drop him off at school (although that would have also been true had he missed a diesel bus).
I wish myenergi would make the zappi output controllable by api. I’d like to give it a kW value to charge the car to react to local conditions that the hub is blind to.
I have a Tesla wall connector/charger and Powerwall 2 battery. I don’t understand what you’re asking for
I am an absolute convert (I was one of the top salesmen in Europe apparently in the early days of zoe/kangoo), but the most important thing to sort is still getting a knowledge base in non franchise garages.
I am fixing a Surron at the moment as nobody else would!😮
Happy New Year, Robert - thanks for another interesting guest 👏
Love what you folks do ❤️
Fun walk down memory lane Robert. I'm a few years younger and barely remember 76 Olympics. Would be fun if you could get the other Robert to do some kind of ele bus rides at the Vancouver fc-live?
That was a boss-level political move by Al Gore. I'm gonna look to watch the movie now (even though the subject matter is now "The Bleedin' Obvious")
Look at planet of the humans by Jeff Gibb abs Michael Moore to see how ridiculous the green woke agenda is.
Fascinating . . . demand for ICE vehicles decreases naturally when the supply of *affordable EVs* increases.
absolutely
Not just that, but "affordable" in the used market too
I've wanted solar panels since a kid tbh. I also barely drive so a 2011 Toyota Yaris suits me perfectly, because crucially the insurance is cheap on that car and it's quite cheap to buy
I used to have a Toyota Prius and I deliberately downgraded because I figured that I don't use it all that often, so I may as well get something cheaper, albeit less efficient, but the insurance difference means it's worth it
I do however figure that as I've bought my house, I've already been looking into ways to make it much more eco, essentially using PassivHaus principles without going fully PassivHaus
People may say to me "Well, how can you say you think that you're doing good for the environment if you've still got an ICE" and I'd respond with this
"First of all anything that humans do industrially means there is a negative impact to the environment. Electric cars do a lot less harm, but it's not even a neutral impact. It's still negative
Secondly, given I barely use my car, a better direction of my available funds, is something where I spend most of my time given I wfh for 3/5 days
In that sense, I'm removing the biggest use of carbon from my lifestyle, which is tbh, my house
I've also got an electric bike, so having a non EV car doesn't truly matter. I also live not too far from a major city, and the trains here are absolutely fantastic despite technically being "Cheshire" which is known for being rural.
I keep watching these shows, because they do give you some ideas. I'm just hoping that the council will approve my plan to put solar panels on top of my attic (flat roof)
If they do, then I'd have 8 solar panels facing south, as well as my current 8 that face east.
I'm looking forward to seeing you in Vancouver in September
40:00 I went to a small local private elementary school. Some of students lived 36 miles away, So one school bus (of 2) travelled 150 miles+ (240km) every day. Mine was last stop. So in afternoon if I didn't want to walk 4miles I'd have to ride for 2+hrs. Only few minutes in the morning though.
Great chat Robert and Robert👍
Interesting stuff. I grew up close to the Lakeview coal generation plant in Toronto area and we had smog alerts all the time, some windy days you'd see dust blowing off the pile of coal and that pile was huge, the size of a couple football fields and 10 stories tall I'm guessing, The days the ships showed up to restock coal with their conveyor belt pouring on the top of the pile was insane.....pretty bad right. Cough cough hack hack...sorry got to go find my puffer.
Coal is one part per million thorium. Radiation that is dangerous.
Very true, fossil can only be ended in part nuclear power. Wind and solar farms are net consumers of electricity when counted over a year. ruclips.net/video/LXs71q39Mxw/видео.html Note he has not found a way to electrify his busses and he never will. Pye in the shy.
47:11 I think the squirrel agrees :D
I was wondering, I am in the process to get a solar setup for my EV. I already have it properly for the house with batteries. My EV is a BYD Atto 3. Once I have this setup, I think it doesn't matter anymore that much how efficient my EV is. As I have more than enough sun to charge it.
Lovely show.🌿🐇
Thank you
His comments on Alberta are reasonable but incomplete.
There is resistance to renewables and EVs in the UCP (provincial) government, and in the rural areas dependent on fossil fuels (convoy origins, F’ Trudeau crowd), but there is strong EV adoption in the cities, many wind farms in the south, a huge boom in solar farm installation, and geothermal plants in development thanks to smart industry. Even some pipeline companies are building renewables. The province is even in a coalition for SMR reactors.
3+ year Chevy Bolt owner (-35C, no problem!), renewable electric plan subscriber. (
Very interesting guest
Robert Can you ask the people you know at the National Grid to explain why the east and west interconnects that exist between England and Scotland have such a small capacity that stops the excess on and off shore wind capacity from being exported from Scotland to England and helping prevent that danger of blackout?
Hello Robert and hello Robert
17:06 is interesting
I intend on getting an MVHR for my house. One of the unintended benefits of an MVHR is indoor air quality
That is a positive to the "personal health cost" especially if you wfh
Myenergi missed a trick with their "Hub" ... It really should've been called "Hubbi" ... :D
My Hub's host name is Hubbi 👍
Well it does communicate through Wi-Fi……I’ll get me coat😊
It would lead to embarrassing situations where housewives say "I love my Hubbi" right when the milkman is getting busy.
With the Libbi I'm still a little confused as to the differences to a Powerwall, it seems like it's ability to run the house during a powercut isn't as good as the Tesla offering, am I missing something obvious? Be great to know as in theory we'll be at the front of the Powerwall queue at the end of this month, and I'd rather support MyEnergi over Tesla
I'm back and I agree
@34.00 Robert Safrata makes a note about recycling car batteries.
The home vehicle fleet would be the way of getting the big battery into the grid.
The avg daily drive is 7kwh
23hrs a day vehicles are parked.
The home robotic vacuum cleaner can teach the selfparking EV to connect to the grid. Low mount power points at every car parking space.
"Power points" not really suitable for V2G...
@@gregbailey45 rapid charging by power points is no good.
But on avg 7kwh is the daily drive and so a slow daily top up is practical.
Assuming that you're filming in the UK your lighting will be on a 50Hz power supply. If you then set your camera to film at 25fps (or 50fps) you should be able to eliminate the banding (sorry for those who didn't notice and now can't un-see it 😂)
What banding?
Just be your monitor. There's none on my phone.
Iam now the owner of a Vauxhall mokka ultimate and I have to as I love it so perfect for us as I don't do long distances and I have saved so much money on fuel since I have owned an ev as I only charge late at night cheep time if you can call it that but it is still so much cheaper than fuel plus I love the instant power and she is pretty quick off the marl quicker than advertised by at least two seconds faster zero to sixty mark in sports mode allowing full power to the motor so yes as a mechanic and a petrol head I have now converted my two sons to go electric once they drove it they fell in love with the silent running the instant torque the cheapness of running costs and you can go anywhere there are no restrictions so I wil never go back to fuel-powered vehicles to me they are outdated and expensive to keep now my one son is looking to get his discover changed to an ev at the moment its a vee-six diesel 3 plus litre the body and chassis is in top condition so its worth changing over so for 26 thousand with a actual 350 mile range and a ten year warranty on the motor's and 8 years on the battery so peace of mind and as a mechanic I can concur so happy driving for the new year so happy new year I am looking forward to the summer as the range will increase but actually all I've lost is about twenty miles and that's having everything on including the heated steering wheel, seat and massage, wipers, lights, heater, and all I lost was 4 miles extra on a 30 mile trip, so I don't bother to watch the power drains any more in the winter cold as I know my car can cope .Plus as a bus mechanics YES you can convert fuel busses electric I did thirty as an experiment in the 90s but battery tech wasn't that good we were still using massive lead acid battery so mileage wasn't great before a charge was needed but now as we have so many new battery's out there with different chemicals and range so now it will be way worth converting a bus to electric as we don't have the weight issues with lithium cobalt and other chemicals using massive lead acid which took so much under space and weight was an issue now a bus can run all day without a charge until end of shift in the UK as busses don't really do massive miles mostly they are standing in traffic and bus stops.
what was that intro tune? that was pretty smooth
Just a note, Denmark reached 59,7% electricity generated from wind and solar in 2022 and there are still room for more, and there will be. That is without biogas production, which is also on the rise. We have no hydro or nuclear even I wish that Seaborg Technologies will become successful with their molten salt reactors in the near future.
Always interesting Robert with the many knowledgeable persons you bring on the show. Well done.
Mate, Denmark economy is Mickey Mouse if compared with UK's... Even if you reach 100% is irrelevant.
Just ordered a Zappi charger! I don’t know I could get Zappis in Queensland.
Hello Robert! My Cybertruck is going to be named Kryten. It's got the look.
Ha!... if you live long enough get one...!?
@@andymccabe6712 Really, I reserved the night of the unveiling, so at #2210 I'm fairly early on the list.
Snows in Stanthorpe, Qld... every now and then.
Thank the Tonga volcano eruption in January 2022 for the last snowfall
Better head down to east Hastings street in Vancouver, see what that looks like
Everyone - Why don't we copy scandanavian countries as they are the best at everything really.
Politicians - How is that gonna help us and our friends get rich?
THE END.
Dispatchable electricity is a big deal.
When the grid needs a sudden supply.
World Oil Reserves
The world has proven reserves equivalent to 46.6 times its annual consumption levels. This means it has about 47 years of oil left (at current consumption levels and excluding unproven reserves).
Electric tour busses are a great idea. I have taken several open air diesel tour buses and the smell and noise ruins the experience of touring a city.
Re: The Tesla Advantage. Doesn’t opening Superchargers actually help convert those stuck using “born brain dead” VW Penitence (aka CCS) chargers?
In the UK and Europe at least the Tesla Superchargers are CCS, which is better because I can use non-Tesla chargers without forking out extra for an adapter.
What about digital electricity?
Yes! Voltserver looks to be transformational!
British Columbia has lots of hydro power. They can also sell it to Washington, where it is ultimately sold to California for a lot more money than the get for power in Washington! Thanks for providing us carbon free power! Exporting power means bringing in income from selling that power!
Each MW of power generated from natural gas or coal takes about $38 in fuel and maintenance. So the 14,000 MW of solar power generated in California is making 532,000 MW of power daily, X $38 = $20,216,000 in daily fuel cost not needed! Or X 365 days $7,378,849 a year in fuel they do not need to purchase! So more fuel for everyone else, and this will lower the cost of fuel for everyone!
However California still uses 8,000 + MW of power each hour overnight and when the sun goes down. 1,000 - 3,000 MW can be made with wind power right now. Still that 8,000 MW per hour X 12 hours per night, that is 96,000 MW X $38 = $3,648,000 spent each night on fuel! So $1,331,520,000 on fuel each night for a year! What California needs today is more wind power! Lots of it, like 18,000 MW of rated power to be installed over the next 10 years! At that point, California should have enough wind power to sell excess power 24 hours per day!
Depressions and recessions are also unknown to the young generation.
20million vehicles in Australia
1million new annually
20years to replace all vehicles.
What if you run out of fuel in the middle of the night with your kids in the back seat?
36:40 RL made the comment you can charge at home while you sleep. Fine for those with off-street parking that don't live in terraced houses or blocks of flats. For EV to make sense in the UK you need a roll out of chargingvstations on a greater scale than fuel filling stations ever were.
Another point - where are all the metals required to go net carbon neutral from 2030 going to come from. An at least 4 fold increase will be needed according to the International Energy Agency and could be even more. It can take up to 12 years to bring a new mine on stream from first pegging the claims and then there is all the environmental impact,I know, I have been in hard rock metalliferous Mining for the past 40 years.
I have no doubt the climate is changing and CO2 is a contributing greenhouse gas, but in my opinion renewables are not the panacea they are made out to be. Nuclear Small Modular Reactors will be ideal, but again development has been stymied by the NIMBY crowd and the anti nuclear lobby.
The worst part is if you dissent in any way from the UN IPCC and Govt "climate religion" you are castigated.
Battery swapping is a viable option for city dwellers.
I;m assuming the Libby is another Li battery. We really must stop using Li for static applications. The demand for Li is driving the price up, making EVs more expensive. Some pundits estimate that for a linear decrease in the price of EVs, you increase the market exponentially. Besides, many of the alternatives are superior i may ways for static applications. They last longer, can be cycled between 0 and 100% with no damage, are safer, are made of cheap, readily available materials and all they lack to be cheaper than Li batteries is market share.
What tech do you recommend instead?
Sounds like you're talking about LFP, which is still Lithium Ion!
Can someone teach Robert how to silence his emails please?
Jeez! Is that your take-away from this?
I think Robert flying to San Diego to create a large venue for spreading the word about lowering our carbon footprint is much more justifiable than a person flying somewhere for a vacation.
In Victoria, Australia, electric vehicles are taxed at three times the rate of petrol vehicles. A litre of petrol is equal to 9.1kwH. Electric vehicles use around (18.2 kwH) per 100 km (or better). The same car running on petrol and using 18.2 kwH equivalent in petrol would pay 85.4 cents per hundred km. Instead, of paying 85.4 cents per hundred km, the electric car is taxed at $2.50 per hundred km, almost three times the rate of the petrol car.
kWh
are you sure that's correct....
@@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834 Yes, I am paying the EV tax and I assure you, the government does collect it. And before the federal election, the government halved the petrol excise so Victorian EV owners were paying almost six times the rate the petrol cars were being charged.
@@FalkinerTim Sounds like you need to change your government rather than your car.
Montréal hosted the 1976 Summer Olympics.
Calgary hosted the 1988 Winter Olympics.
Vancouver hosted the 2010 Winter Olympics.
40% of black carbon but only 3% of the vehicle fleet. Bus and delivery truck.
Bus and truck electrictrify is the fasted way to reduce.
Toilet paper was a panic buy from an anxiety reaction
Flat battery is anxiety reaction.
Great subject mater guys but way too many ‘you knows’ for me! So many people are ‘you knowers’ these days - hard to listen to as fluency is out the window!
Why does RL waffle so much?
The EV big battery can be the fastest way to support Renewables in the national grid and national transport.
The EV big battery is the fastest way to save the economy.
Central concentrated electrical power supply will destroy economies.
Renewables will save the existing national transmission grid with the EV big battery and rooftop 33kwh system.
Detail: it would be ideal if pod cast folk would look at the camera.
No one knows the true carbon footprint of an EV, so an independent study has not been done that I know of , happy to read one if there is one, please send a link.
You would need to calculate what the carbon footprint of all the mining is for each component the aluminium, , cobalt, lithium, etc etc , the mining of these elements and the shipping of these elements, then you will need to calculate the carbon footprint of the manufacturing of the battery and the shipping of the battery, and of course the carbon footprint of the car itself and the shipping of the car to its destination, you will then need to calculate the carbon footprint of the recycling of the battery and the car itself.
EV owners have very little interest in Climate change if they are happily driving cars made in China and Shipped to the UK : )
The shipping of one car from China takes 5000 litres of bunker diesel, equivalent to 83,000 miles driven in a VW golf diesel.
Blessed? Lucky more like it! Blessed infers some magic!
23hrs a day vehicles are PARKED.
When 'conservatives' complain about costs of forging ahead with sustainable development including such aspects as energy and transportation, it never occurs to them that they're spending MORE money on healthcare & social welfare benefits as well as LOSING productivity/GDP & tax revenues to pay for all of the above. Once those initial investments have taken place, those societies will GAIN financially and socially because they're no longer forced to finance unnecessary expenditure on the aforementioned; a basic lack of joined up thinking in other words.
Robert, let your guests talk.
He said Hybrid cars smfh
Try to heat your house with electricity . Natural gas way cheaper
Exactly. This video content is fake news. Canada is a massive producer of fossil fuel. This idiot does not count the emissions at the power station chimney which is more than from the car exhaust. Very few countries have river for hydro. Norway is supplying most of northern Europe with oil and gas. Without Norwegian fossil fuel Northern Europe would be in the dark and at a standstill.
I think you are wrong about our generation, Robert. We weren't lucky, we were ignorant.
Perhaps we were lucky to be ignorant...
I love all of this EV evangelistic twaddle. It's becoming more like another Brexit debate everyday. The reality for me is that after waiting 15 months for my EV to be built it's now actually going to be more expensive to run than the petrol car that it supposed to replace! There will be a very nice Audi Q4 up for sale in March this year. The UK government need to get a grip on our energy infrastructure and pricing now (not in 2040).
I suspect that there is a strong correlation between people that are pro-Brexit and those that are anti-EV. Basically they are people that can't hold more than one thought in their mind at one time.
Despite the rise in electricity prices, EVs are still far cheaper to run than comparable ICE cars, particularly if charging at home or work, less so if wholly reliant on public charging. The anti-EV brigade tend to compare the cost of running the most economical diesel cars with the public charging cost of an EV, failing to take into account that EVs are far more pleasant to drive, have far better long-term reliability and far lower servicing and maintenance costs. Although public charging hassles, redress the balance a little.
The cost of electricity can go down not so for fossil fuels.
No, not another waffle on for virtually 1 hour......................outa here.
Miles? OK Boomer
Kilometres? OK sheep.
Not one of your finest . Ya need to do your homework