AXON Construction Details
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- No plans needed for this one, just refer to this video and the relevant videos on the fuselage tube, wing, and tail section. PARTS LIST BELOW:
The Axon is made of Dollar Tree foamboard (Readi-Board) using the simple construction techniques described on this channel. Four sheets of foamboard plus hot glue, packing tape, plastic gift cards, four 9 gram servos, and flight electronics are all that are needed to build this plane.
The motor mount 5 degree thrustline adjustment is to ensure the thrust force approximately intersects the aerodynamic center of the aircraft. This is very roughly at the mid-chord of the wing. The angled thrust avoids pitching forward and down upon adding power.
Below is a sample parts list as bought from HobbyKing. There are other good sources and many variations of these parts, so use your judgment and ask questions as needed.
PARTS LIST:
Colored Packing Tape:
www.tapebrothers.com/Colored-C...
D2826-6 2200kv Outrunner Motor:
www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/st...
or for more power, (and use a larger ESC):
www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/st...
30A+ ESC (below is one example)
www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/st...
9G Servos:
www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/st...
Servo Lead Extensions (many options, below is one):
www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/st...
6x4 Propellers:
www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/st...
www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/st...
2200mAh Battery (many choices, below is my preferred):
www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/st... 
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I finally had my maiden of my Axon today. 60", 6" Chord, 1 1/2" Ailerons. On my first launch I put in a few bumps of up trim and it darn near went vertical. I had to land it pretty quick and throw in A LOT of Expo on Ailerons, but after that I had a great Flight. To be honest, it was probably my first real successful flight on any airframe (still a noobie). No Crashes and it weathered the winds aloft LIKE A BOSS. Thanks Ed for an awesome design and helping me achieve my best flight yet.
I still watch this by 2021... thanks ed. Your videos inspiring me a lot.
Thanks so much for these videos! I built an AXON with my kids over the past few days, and flew it for the first time last Saturday. Flies great with with a cheapo motor (2212-6) I got on amazon. Next step is to add FPV! I really appreciate the time and detail you put into all of your videos. I've flown RC for < 1 hour my entire life, but this plane was docile and easy to handle even for me.
This channel is a GEM.
Ed you are a genius. This is my 5th scratch build and it's clearly the best. thank you for your work and sharing.
Thanks (a million) Ed for taking the trouble to make & upload these - ingenious easy to use techniques & some of the best quality instructional vids I´ve seen. An Axon will be my 1st RC plane & its proving easier to scratchbuild than I would ever have thought possible - not to mention saving a worthwhile chunk of cash compared to a kit or ready to fly trainer.
E un progetto grandioso . O fatto il primo axon e con questo ho imparato a volare .con la rottura dell'ala si è rotto peccato. Ne ho costruito un altro meravigliosamente perfetto . Progetto e spiegazioni perfetti . Con questo modello a 56 anni ho riscoperto la mia giovinezza grazie per aver messo tutta la tua esperienza e i tuoi progetti in rete sei grande. Spero che a presto metterai altri filmati in rete grazie ancora.
Excellent! Thanks for the good news and positive vibes. Happy flying.
Hi Ed, thanks for your awesome videos. They are both educational and inspirational. I am making another Axon today. I love the simplicity and the efficiency of the design and I simply cannot believe how well it flies! As a beginner pilot, I can honestly say, it has been the best flying experience out of the 3 trainers I have had (including the Dynam Hawk Sky). This thing just floats!
This is simple but so cool! Thanks for sharing! New to the hobby and love these type of builds!
Hi Ed, I feel like I'm super late to this dance but very grateful from your videos to help guide my journey. Thank you!
This is a beautiful plane for fpv. Love it. Love these videos
The tape is 3M Scotch Heavy Duty Outdoor Mounting Tape, found at most hardware stores and online. Velcro is everywhere.
Hello Ed, thanks for posting all your wonderful videos! I am currently making an axon now. I also plan on using an old wrecked Cessna as a template to make a small plane with your techniques. Thanks again for all the amazing information keep it coming!!
10-32 tap then a 3/16 drill bit using the tap holder and then screwed the prop on. Now to actually finish my Axon. Thank you Ed
Hey Ed, the freezer idea worked. In addition, I found it useful to use an 10" block of wood as a gig. It barely fits inside the square tube. I taped graph paper to it to help pre-align the motor mount on the gig itself. I used four 1/8th inch bits of 3M tape to hold the mount on the gig during placement. Seemed to work. Thanks again.
Yes, that is perfectly OK. I use a 30 inch arrow in my 60 inch wings and no problems, even with hard maneuvers. See the Photon design for some testing of that. The carbon tubes you get from HK may be thinner so do have a look at them for strength. Happy building - hope to see some videos!
@kitesteez You are right, a triangle is more rigid. The main reason for using the square fuselage is the ability to put stuff inside more efficiently and to mate parts together in a kind of modular way, and it's reasonably strong. A triangular fuselage would be strong and would be easily possible with this foamboard technique.
Thanks for all the tips, The new plane i built turned great, Cheers
Very good, keep me updated.
Those are great motors, excellent choice you made. You have several options, from easiest to hardest: 1. flip your motor mount and place shaft through it 2. there is an accessory kit to mount the prop hub on the motor can, then you just ignore or cut off the shaft 3. replace the 4mm shaft with one having the E-clip retention groove on the end (not the middle). RCTimer is one source. Use a bench vise and driver sockets to press out the shaft. See forums and youtube for info.
I really like this design, I have build a second one of 6mm depron with a wingspan of 1700mm. I use it for nightflights and in the future FPV. Thx for your build video's!
@maksym2k Glad you like it! You'll need 4 x 9 gram servos, ESC, motor, mount, prop, receiver, and some servo extensions. Yeah, sorry I'm not so good at describing the electronics, will work on that. Otherwise just good old DTfoam, tape, hotglue, and plastic gift cards. Show us a video when done.
Since 4years no video. Please don't stop making videos I helps us to stay motivated ✌️✌️✌️
Pretty standard 30-40% aft of the leading edge is good. The 42" fuselage version does usually need landing gear, big battery, FPV gear, etc. or something in the nose to balance the tail. If built for just a trainer or fun flyer, consider making the tail tube section shorter for an overall length of 36", for example.
I would go on the generous side with your vertical stabilizer and rudder especially, and it wouldn't hurt to give a bit bigger horizontal stab as well. You'll want more affirmative yaw stability and control with that big wing. Fortunately the control surfaces are somewhat within the prop blast, so that's a plus. I'd say 9x6" for the vertical and 16x6 for the horizontal, swept recommended, and control surfaces 1.5".
I'm a new sub and love your videos! I'm looking forward to building the AXON before summer. Even though you don't have PDF plans, your planes are really easy to build just using the measurements (saves printing paper and time)
Keep up the good work.
OK, that's much better. I think it's worth a go. You might consider a 3-blade 7x4 if you need a little more muscle but without larger diameter. Keep in touch!
The one you mention will work but you will need to make your upper fuselage ("power pod") tube taller to provide prop clearance for the larger prop.
I find it a good idea to have a bigger gap from the fuselage at the inner end of the ailerons. That way, if you have an, ahem, unexpected landing, and the wing twists out of place, the end of the aileron won't hit the fuselage.
Of course, it may be down to, just my special way of landing. ;¬)
I hadn't considered that, but, yes, it would seem so. I'm glad to be of help Ed.
5" airfoil + 1.5" control surface would just be a little lighter and nimbler than the 7" + 2", but either is a fine choice depending on what you need to do with it. The narrow wing has surprisingly good glide. I would probably bump up the motor power for the larger chord wing, still a high KV motor but a bigger can with more watts.
Very carefully! If you can weasel the adapter shaft in there by any means then do that preferentially. If not I would use a drill press, and a bit that has some self-centering tendencies, like a step drill bit, so the new hole is as coaxial with the original hole as possible.
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Ed, I've built an Axon, Three different Noob Tube variations and one Franken-Plane hybrid Axon/Noob. Thank you for all of your videos, you have no idea how much fun I've had flying your designs.
Awesome bud! I will be looking out for your creations on your channel.
ExperimentalAirlines
Thanks. Hopefully I'll be able to fly the Franken-Plane again this weekend...now with 50% more Franken (driveway marker as a new fiberglass spar). You'll notice that I use a lot of your ideas even on planes that don't use the Armin wing or tubular fuselage. I still make liberal use of packing tape for apperance and strength and double sided stickey tape for mounting servos.
ExperimentalAirlines You say there maybe a slight CG problem. Why not just lengthen the nose section about 6" (ahead of the wing leading edge) that should sort it. Thank you for your great designs, detailed explanations etc I just love the APD, I just got to build one.
Parabéns! Muito bom
That's a perfect motor, just the one I use. You should get plenty of thrust from a 6x4 on a 3-cell Lipo. The 2-cell 7.4v rating is fairly useless for these purposes. A 5x5 would theoretically be OK but you'll obtain a bit more efficiency by using a 6" diameter and a slightly lower pitch. You're on the right track!
That's great, have fun, and be sure to share your creations back here on RUclips!
Hi again I feel kinda stupid I didnt realize that you had a list of items needed in the introduction , thanks for doing this and I will let you know how it all turns out .
Oh yeah, that would work fine. You could open up the possibilities for other motors too. The Axon only has the pusher prop for FPV and trainer use. My next build video will be a motorglider a lot like you describe. I say go for it!
Hey, that is a great idea, and I will include that in the default instructions in the future. I also assume it feeds the prop a cleaner column of air, without aileron deflection.
Yes! You might not need as much flap-to-elevator mix with the Axon though.
Very cool, put it in the contest!
I think you would probably be good with that setup. It's a perfect implementation of a 3-blade prop. Of course you have an additional inch of blade length compared to a 6". The bigger motor diameter would take care of part of that. The rest you would need to build up your upper fuselage and/or motor mount for clearance. Let me know how it works.
It is covered in packing tape. I highly recommend the tape covering to make this technique of construction really work well. See the foamboard covering video on this channel for more.
I did this after tearing up aileron ends & a prop when my motor mount broke during the maiden flight. Found that the extra inch or so between prop & trailing edge made a very significant reduction in noise levels too. No idea why this happens but I have "noise intolerant" neighbours so its certainly a good thing.
Axon friend query which is the length of the wing and wide from thanks for your answer
Thank you.
thanks for the great videos Ed. I am going to build one of these instead of buying a bixler. I have already built 2 noob tubes and love them.
thanks again
Thanks for the quick reply, i will try as you suggest or maybe order that motor, but i don't know if i will be able to wait a few weeks for it to get here to fly, watching your videos makes me want to fly one asap. Thanks for taking the time to make such amazing videos.
Hey I was wondering if you could give me a link of a place I could buy some landing gear.
What air foil are you using to build Axon, 5" or 7" ?
Thanks!
planes like easystar and bixler also has some positive ngle of incidence of wings and axon does not how does this effect that the flight. i am building this plane and was thinking to put some foam under neatg tge wing to give it some angle with respect to fuselage,what do you think?
if i use motor turnigy d2830 3 cell prop 9x4.7 can fly,how wing span en long fuse tq
Is this project and its flight characteristics good for a beginners first project ?
Ed I have watched your axon video and I am having trouble finding CG with having tail heavy or to mush nose heavy don't understand what I am doing wrong need help
How would a design like this work with an EDF? Any size recommendations?
help anyone! Built axon. No idea where cg should be. 30% of root chord of wing? From front edge? love plans but no luck flying until cg is correct. Help!!!?
No worries, you're on the right track.
Thanks for your videos on this build I love it . Question, all I have is two D2826/10 1400kv motors left to do a build with. Will they work for this plane if so can you rec-amend a prop?
You take the focus of the wing of the aircraft, or you just estimate? I watched the video as your plane and see you often do is fly right. Can you help me?
You could either stack another "deck" of foamboard on top, around the motor mount, which provides a flat surface for the wing, or you could make another motor mount with the motor tab longer so it sticks up higher, then you could mount the fuselage tab inside the power pod, clear of the wing.
great videos. You have a great way of explaining things. Keep them coming. Oh and have you tried making a triangular fuselage? I forget isn't a triangle a stronger structural shape than a rectangle?
I am running a 1000kv with 9x5 and its awesome
Either is fine, standard is likely to be a little cheaper. The only difference is likely to be the shaft adapter is inserted in the opposite side of the prop hub, but it doesn't really matter, either type works.
Why the 5 degree angle for the motor? Why is it pushing the aircraft down
@maksym2k I'm using a 2826-6 2200kV motor. You can find these from HobbyKing, RCTimer, and others. RUclips won't allow links here, but these are easily searched. The prop is a 6" diameter by 4" pitch, so 6x4 APC or "parkjet" style. ESC 30 amps is good for this range of powerplant.
I would love to see this made with the Glider Nose that you have....Very well done again Ed!
I am in Process of building / finishing a NOOB TUBE!
Yeah, you could totally do that. Or 50/50. I left the flaps off this one for simplicity, but I do love flaps for certain planes.
One more question. Did I miss info on the Axon CG? Thanks, Ed.
@Jonathunor 650g all-up weight with a 2200mAh pack which is 180g. It's a zippy little plane with pretty high wing loading. The Axon is about 800g and way more docile.
What did u get the metal motor mount piece from?
"Very carefully!" hahaha love it! I was afraid of that answer.Did I mention I purchased 8 of them and now I know why! Maybe a thread tap? Stand by for update....I feel a hangover coming on!! LOL
Did the scale thrust test Ed, had 360 Grams of thrust, Put the 6-4E prop on and it jumped up to 480 grams of thrust, I'm going to step it up to your recommended hardware, Thanks for the advise. So my maiden flight is on hold till I can be sure to get airborne. Thanks !
Hello, I have a question. Is there a instruction manual of sorts for this build? Something available to read step by step? These are really good videos!
Can someone help me here. He uses a 2200kv motor at ~ 200-240W. What would be the impact if I use a 950kv with ~260W and the same propeller. If it won’t work, could I change the prop to make it work?
Just finished my Axon as well as Noob tube. Ed, thank you so much for making these videos. I have been following them and building for over a month now. Have a lot of spare parts and am assembling several more aircraft. I'm confident that the noob will fly well and am scared to fly it as I spent a lot of time on it and it is virtually perfect... The Axon I'm not too sure about. I used a 60 in wingspan with 7in cord and 2 inch control surfaces. It's heavy... Think it's too much? Guess putting it in the air will answer that...
Scott, I'm sure you did your maiden already. I built an Axon with a 60" wingspan and large wing chord like you have and it flew great. There is a video of it on youtube (search Axon Maiden). The title is "Axon Maiden Flight - 60" Armin Wing" and it is under Liam (my son's) channel.
How did it fly?
It's a pretty forgiving design. The main challenge is getting enough prop clearance to satisfy the powerplant. Multi-blade props can help. Beyond that, scaling up the Axon is a perfectly viable idea.
are you worried about nosing in and ruining your lipo? any modular/removable landing gear/float ideas?
Ok I have gotten started on the build while I wait for parts but I was wondering were and what kind of arrow shaft you use as there seems to be a lot of then?
If I build one of these using the 7" chord and full 60" wingspan, would I need to change anything and how would it affect the flight. If the plane flies slower, that's fine by me. I like big and slow. I love piper cubs.
Are the Photon setup and mix instructions appropriate for the Axon? I might have missed this on your Axon videos.
Hi Ed, I'm through most of the parts build and wonder about flaps..... have you ever put flaps on the larger wing and how did it work. I've build 7in cord X 30in X2. I figure I could use 60% control and 40% control surface as flap. What are your thoughts?
I plan to build one of these plans right a way as my very first plane. But I know the CG is very important for any plane. But how you fine the points to get the plane balanced from?
Thanks Bryan
Still waiting for the weather to clear up so I could maiden my noobtube (frankenstein ver ) . Good thing I made a bunch of extra wings n tubs ! Looks like Ill build this one as well ! Thx
I was wondering; I have 4 motors left over from a quad propblem is they are 1100kv (3530 turnigy aerodrive xp) I also have some 3 bladed props that are 8x4s I can fit it all together on the described axon but do you think I will have enough thrust with the 1100kv? I was hoping the larger prop in the smaller 3 blade form could make up for the loss of rpm. thanks in advance boss
do i need to order a pusher prop or standard? dumb question i know..seems like pusher
Is it possible or should I say pratical to attempt to build this Axon without the upper fuselage and run a 2200kv motor front mounted like the noob tube?
Thank you for your help. I mounted the motor with the shaft through the vertical side. Now for your big secret. How do you align your motor & mount. I feel like a dentist working back in a small cave. The 3M tape is great, but it’s difficult to keep it free during trial and errrrror attempts. Thanks. The servos are coming. Should be in the air in a couple of weeks. Glad it doesn't have to be perfect to get off the ground.
Hey Ed My 6x4 MA0640 props finally arrived and the center holes are too small. What is your technique for making the center hole bigger with out compromising the balance of the prop? Thanks
Very good Ed. Little Armin looks cute as a button. Bet i am about 70 years older than
him. Best regards. Will maiden the Axon Ugly Build soon. Armin
Actually I meant the throttle-to-elevator mix might not to be as aggressive with the Axon since it already has a high thrust line, which tends to keep the nose down. The flap-to-elevator also is likely to be less, but it kind of needs to be tuned to the individual plane.
Excellente Cual es el tamaño del fuselaje? No lo he podido calcular Gracias Alguien puede ayudar Gracias
It's a question of the transmitter and receiver setup and controls. It's a bit hard to explain simply. Can you have an experienced pilot show you? There will be some other videos on setting up ailerons, elevator, and rudder elsewhere on RUclips. I do not think I will have time to make detailed videos on this subject any time soon, but please do look around online for other resources.
@race54321msncom For a 6 1/2" total chord wing I recommend measuring back 1 1/2" from the leading edge of the wing, about 6" out from the fuselage on the underside of each, and make two marks there. Put all electronics and battery in. Balance the plane on your fingers at those two marked points. If all correct the fuselage should be level. If not, move battery and/or electronics so it becomes balanced. 25% is a beginner setting for CG, very stable. You can adjust with skill later.
Hi Ed , I have a cg question for you , I'm building a smaller version of the axon . In your noob tube videos you explain how to balance that plane. First by balancing the fully loaded tube section then the wing . I cant seem to do that with this model. Since I'm only going with a 30''wing span and don't plan on removing it for transport ,I've already attached it to the small section of the tube. Should I just balance the plane based off apex of the wing ? Thx
Hey Ed, or anyone.... do you think it would be functional to upsize an Axon to a 65-70" wing and apropriate fuse size in order to carry a 4s 4000 nanotech and APM gear? I'm looking to repalce my Finwing Penguin and diggin scratch buildin from foam right now and this seems like a decent option. Any thoughts?
I think you can get away with a 60 inch. I have a 60 inch wing at 36" fuselage, and I can put a lot of weight on mine. Glide slope is great as well.
I'm thinking about building this as my first plane...this might be a dumb question, but what about the handheld remote controller? I have a few lying around from previous RTF kits, can I just somehow use those? Thanks
Saud Rahman depends, what brand are they
You'll have to make sure the transmitter (handheld controller) and receiver work together.
I'm building a scaled down version of the Axon for my father in law and I was wondering if you think it's a good idea to make a 1.5" fuse tube? I'm trying to make it 25% smaller except for the wing chord - 45" Wingspan, 30" Fuse. I think I'll be using a little smaller motor since it will weigh less and allow for a smaller battery.
I am going to use my Axon as an FPV platform, any opinions on doing this?
It's a good all-around choice for park plus medium-distance flight. Anything you would use a Bixler or Hawksky for would be the same recommendation for the Axon.