How BAD would 0 BASE STATS Mewtwo be in Pokemon Yellow?
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024
- Mewtwo was made in an experiment attempting to create a perfect Pokemon. But what if the sciences royally f***ed up? Today we try a Mewtwo with base stats of 0 in every category - HP, Attack, Defense, Speed, and Special - and try to use it to beat Pokemon Yellow. This might just be impossible...
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How about a Weedle with 255 in all base stats?
Lol, somebody has already checked the next video
That may still be impossible due to its poison type and it can't really use HM/TM"s at all so its pretty much STUCK with Poison sting which in turn almost NEVER causes the status.
@@veghesther3204 I don't think so personally. Weedle normally has base 35 attack, which then is forced to use the 15 base power Poison Sting. However, coming off of a pokemon with actual stats, like Dragonite with 134 base attack, even 15 base power is something, not much but more than Weedle having to literally get lucky. 255 would be insane, for comparison, no pokemon to date has an attack stat exceeding 200, only Megas exceed 181. I'm not sure how much damage 255 base attack STAB poison sting would do, but considering that would be coming off a base attack 7 times higher than an actual Weedle, I have a feeling our little friend might be able to beat the game, even if it does come down to level 100. Add a far higher crit chance thanks to the now 255 base speed, plus now having a far higher defense and special defense combined with the HP to better tank those psychics, and I think, while Poison Sting is a terrible attack, it can still beat even Agatha.
@alecrutz956 no badge boost for that one, but maybe agatha is too much
Just due to PP, one thing is being "immune" to damage, and another thing is killing 4x resistance mons with substitute and healing moves in an average 8 PP
Bro had a vision
Mewpoo2: "Who are you?"
Attack form Deoxys: "I'm you, but bulkier"
Perfect
If you have 0 base speed, does that mean you can't crit?
Quite possibly, base 0 in every stat would make you weaker than any Pokemon around.
Indeed. You can notice this in the video too as the Crit chance never moves past 0%
The formula is crit chance (%) = 100(base speed)/512, so yeah it should be 0
1 base speed would be 0.2% crit chance, i.e. 1 in 500
Was coming here to say this @@tomatogenesis
idk bro, maybe he can badge-boost & get some critties
i really dig how a lot of 'Poketubers' are using these Scott'sThoughts Overlays for their run videos (not exactly saying he 'invented' the idea, just that His was the first channel i saw using them)...like, it makes me want to mod the hell out of a Super-GameBoy so i can have all those useful stats on-screen for my own runs...or maybe if i could get it to run, on my 3DS...
It's all based on the Gamehook software for data access (Scott has a newer program called PokeByte that is basically the same thing), with custom scripts for the overlay. It's certainly useful both in terms of information and to add flair to the videos.
Throughout I was thinking, "Hmmm, I wonder, what if the Ditto is a failed Mew clone theory legit and the researchers tossed out a Psychic type Ditto that had 255 base stats and 15 DVs in every category. Still only knowing Transform, could it potentially get through, or maybe if it also could have one broken move as well like Double Team..."
Then your closing line.
This has to be the single most interesting Pokémon run that has ever been done. Seeing just how far the gen1 jank will go. I’ve been watching Pokémon challenges since jrose and mahdrybread did their first challenges but never have I been so incredibly intrigued to see what happens.
Appreciate that! Hope you enjoy more of these funny ideas I have in store!
Oh come on, a zero DV Mewtwo is easy. Wait, zero base stats? You absolute madman. Now I have to watch this.
I wanted to try the best Pokemon with the worst stats, now for the worst pokemon with the best stats....
@@RBYPokemonChallengesIn gen 1, Struggle is considered normal type and enemies have infinite PP, so the normal only move pool on just about every worst pokemon candidate other than Ditto or Weedle makes ghosts an instant-loss no matter the stats.
@Aquilenne check again. Struggle hits ghosts in gen 1. Scott's thoughts has done it several times in his runs 😅
@@KigerrVariety I just checked bulbapedia and struggle gen 1 is normal type and can't hit ghosts. Maybe Scott did a gen 2 run you are thinking of?
Dude, this is such a funny and creative idea. Seeing a Mewtwo get outsped and OHKO'd by Geodude's Tackle is just hilarious. I love these ridiculous little challenges
Thank you! This one had lots of interesting and sometimes outright unimaginable happenings. I love picking on Mewtwo and making him terrible.
The experiment did go wrong, as shown by the ‘disappearance’ of several cloned pokemon and a child.
Fact, which is why we have the evidence of what one of those failed Pokemon was.
We dreamed of creating the world's strongest pokemon.
.....we failed horribly.
And this is why the Scientist trainer class doesn't use smart AI in Gen 1.
Has to be the most interesting take on Mewtwo I've ever seen, taking a perfect Pokemon and remaking it into trash for extra challenge? Sign us up!
Yeah, I've been kind of gradually making Mewtwo worse and worse with challenge runs spread out over the past 3 years. Went from 0 DVs, to 0 DVs and new moves every battle, to 0 DVs and no TMs, to 0 DVs and only 50 power or weaker legit moves, to 0 DVS ands 20 power moves, to 0 DVs and only Bide Counter Rage and Psywave, and now this.... Next has to be like a 0 DVS 0 base stats Constrict only challenge lol
"The FIRST goes wrong" exactly.
That's why everyone thinks ditto was created by the same experiment that made Mewtwo,
the mistake before perfection!
Cheers
Loved seeing Seismic Toss get some attention. It's one of my favorite moves in Gen 1 and I feel like it gets under utilized.
For sure, with lower stats, Seismic Toss is honestly one of the best moves in the game!
You'll be happy to know Seismic Toss sees decent competitive usage on Chansey if you go for a set with a single attacking move! It was my favorite set to use in the 2013 Pokemon Online World Cup!
Fascinating! Now we just need to see 255 in all stats! 😃
Nah
Would be boring af
@Kev.in1997 Still, for science!
@graduator14 I'd watch it.
@@Kev.in1997 You're boring af. I'd want to see it.
While I worry how entertaining it would be I imagine our guy could do it justice. Also, for science.
You know... Not bad.
Horrifically painful, but way to go statless monstrosity.
Edit: I like these weird science runs.
Yeah, I was really impressed that it was possible. I actually decided to try the run after calculating that the stats of the pokemon (before badge boosts) would max out at 69 in everything except HP.
Getting frozen by a fearow is something I never thought I’d see XD
Literally frozen in Fear(ow)
@ LOL
Yeah the badge for defense is great, except base 0 + 12.5% is still 0.
Yeah I know that's not exactly how it goes, I just wanted to joke around. 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, the stats are still abysmal.
"We dreamed of creating the world's strongest pokemon, and we failed. Miserably."
Basically every scientist in Gen 1.
True masterpiece in devolution engineering. It even got weaker upon levelup. Bravo.
Perfect! The only other time hat happened I think was the Fossil MissingNo Race last year.
I'd love to see how base stat 0 compares to base stat 1.
Honestly, very little difference. Some weird rounding effects would come into play here and there, but generally close to the same.
This run is completely ridiculous and crazy... I love it.
Glad to deliver a fun one for you!
This is great content, the overlay, showing the stats/moves of pokemon in battle live, so damn good! Time to binge the rest of your vids
Thank you so much!
this is a great premise for a challenge video. i love doing runs like this in the 1st 3 gens
Yeah, the early gens had so much potential for shenanigans
Now I'm convinced - Bruno has negative base stats!
100% confirmed
All praise the badge boost glitch 😁.
Love the run idea and those nice finishing stats
Oh yeah, I knew that we could achieve the 69 in every stat, just impressed that that was where it actually finished!
Already watched this about 4 times. Glad to have you posting consistently again! Hope all is well with the family
Yeah, we
e all good. It's taken a bi of time to get into a routine with the baby, but we're settling in.
The editing on this video is crazy! The sheer amount of information that has to constantly be shown and swapped around is insane! I hope whoever edits these videos gets paid well.
Pretty sure Theo does it himself
Damn, time to give myself a raise! Been making myself work for peanuts over here...
Sad to see Mewtwo in all his glory being outsped by a rock with arms
I know, right 😂
Great video! Even as someone who’s pretty familiar with gen 1’s more hidden mechanics your explanations of them helped me understand your strategies a lot better. Def gonna watch some more videos of yours now :)
That's awresome! Thanks for watching!
Hey man your channel just popped up on my timeline and thought it was an interesting concept and clicked, and that's why I'm here, now that being said, as a foreigner to this channel i just wanted to give some feedback.
Im the kind of guy who likes looking at everything, and for me, it was very distracting that the overlay was changing every now and then. I dont know if anyone else would have the same issue, but maybe a more static overlay could make it easier to look at.
That said, i really liked the video and for sure i'll stick around, +1 sub :)
Fair feedback, thank you. There are some things that natural have to change based on the circumstances, but I can certainly understand information overload at times. I'll think about it and improvements when I get to me year-end overlay refresh.
I was expecting way more of a crazy RNG fest, I mean it still was but I was expecting WAY WAY worse
Yeah, I didn't try to reset for too much RNG in this, I knew I would need to level up a bunch to have a chance
@RBYPokemonChallenges Yea I'm surpised that worked as well as it did. Those stats even at lv92 were awful
Yeah. Once I got to 69 in every stat, I had to try to win there for memez, but Barrier and. Amnesia are the real winners, since they make Recover starts possible.
@RBYPokemonChallenges Yea that was perfect lol but yea barrier and amnesia really put in work
Wow, this looked like a CHORE. Base stats are kinda important. Of course now you have to do the max Base Stat run with a terrible Pokemon, curious to see which one you'll use.
Imagine a ditto with 120 stats in every stat
That is the plan!
This seems like a promising concept! I wonder which Pokémon you're gonna use in later installments if you choose to keep doing it!
We shall see.
This is absolutely nutso and really interesting. Looking forward to seeing a max stats run with a terrible pokemon
Thank you for watching! Time to get to work on God-tier Weedle!
I forgot which RUclipsr came up with the idea of beating the bug catcher's first pokemon but then intentionally losing against the second pokemon. Would've been a consistent way to grind for Brock
I know Gym Leader Matt often uses Lightyears Blackout Training, using the first trainer of Brock's gym.
Are you talking about Doug Cycles in MartSnack's beating pokemon firered blind and deaf?
I've done that before with pokemon like Alakazam, which doesn't start Yellow with any damaging moves.
I’ve gotten pretty bored of these type of Pokémon challenges purely due to watching so many. This is one of the more interesting ones I’ve watched in a long time.
Glad to provide some entertainment. I do a lot of more standard Minimum Battles Challenges etc., but I try to mix some different ones in.
Thank you for your videos 🙏🏼 please keep going
Thank you so much! More to come!
23:51 it takes us to pound town 🤣🤣🤣
Nailed that commentary 😂
Congrats on 10k subs
Thank you so much 😀
5 minutes in, going to guess that the whole game is just actually impossible. GodKarp struggled by the end, and had considerably higher base stats than MewPoo2. Reasonably sure that getting through about Surge will be doable, but thinking a hard wall will hit by Blaine, if not earlier. Misty can usually be brute forced eventually, Surge is somewhat reliably just bad enough to squeek past, maybe maybe super effective damage could break through Erika but by then it is getting pretty dubious that pure stat experience will give enough stats to help much. Koga will be nasty if you can even get there, despite super effective STAB. Blaine hits hard, can burn, has bulk, and runs a type MewPoo2 doesn't have great answers to.
So far I'm about halfway thru the video and it's basically just what I expected lol
Could a Weedle or Magikarp with 999 in every stat beat the game?
Weedle.... maybe. Magikarp.... Nah... Unless it gets Bubble from Gen 2 event tradeback....
During Rival 6, the GUI said that you were fighting Giovani.
Yeah, it's a known bug in my setup that I haven't fixed...
I kinda wanna try this ROM, but ally pokemon have 0 base stats and 0 DVd. Only time I don't consider the run irreverent by just abusing the badge boost glitch purposely.
Yeah, Badge Boost glitch helps, but it wasn't enough on it's own.
He's done the OP Weedle, and the weakest Mewtwo...
I guess it's time for the weakest Weedle, and the OP Mewtwo.
I like how you think
Oh yeah, I had always wondered before this video how a Pokemon would do if it had base 0 in every stat, and this video answers my question! 😊😊😊
Glad to provide some answers
so base 0 mewtwo is still better than abra xD
Apparently
You’re a mad scientist.
Clearly lol
Due to Night Shade and immunities, would the Gengar line have an easier time than Mewtwo at 0 Base Stats?
Yeah, but it hs no boosting moves like Amnseia and Barrier, and Gen 1 mechanics make those moves much stronger in the late game.
Every time I see the Pikachu in the Pokemon yellow starting screen I have the urge to wanna make fanart that replaces Pikachu with a very very very sick diseased Mewtwo
Haha, that sounds incredible! If you make it let me know, I'll share it to folks and let them know MewPoo finally has original concept art!
Would be interesting to see how 255 and 126 fairs as well! It would be a useful way to benchmark other Pokémon.
Yeah. max seems like a good starting point, but a Pokemon with no Badge Boost glitch so we can see what the actual stats would be.
Neat idea for a video
I like to sometimes branch out to these "what if" runs.
"Mewp002"
Genius
Disabling his Tackle is a very effective fighting strategy!
The only time where disable would be super effective
We found a use for one of Gen 1's most useless moves 😂
58:42 wdym, this seems ABSOLUTLY ideal
You're absolutely correct
Leveling up removes badge boosts, so it wasn't a range that you missed on the tree it was just missing badge boosts.
In the moment I may not have realized the level up. Thanks for pointing that out!
Ditto was a failed clone. But imagine a ditto that copied the opponents pokemon perfectly, just with 40pp in every move and 255 points in hp. It would be unbeatable winning every 1vs1
That is an interesting idea. What if Ditto got full PP in it's transformed moves ...
Would still be a challenge cause you still have to copy the opponent's lead, who is almost always the weakest.
@@Zorothegallade-rpg not if it got an ability that always copies the opponent it faces.
@@derva1019 Once it transforms, though, it replaces its own ability with that of the opposing Pokémon.
@@Zorothegallade-rpg well, in the anime the trainer can call back his pokemon whenever he wants so in that case ditto would be quickly recalled into its ball and straight sent back out again to transform again
Truly insane that this was even possible
Agreed!
I knew with badge boosting anything would be possible lol. Now I'm curious to see this from that GSCPC guy.
Might be a new years special! I really want to get through Whitney ASAP
Oh looky here, a 0 stats Mewtwo! This ought to be good! 😊😊😊
I never thought about having a Pokemon with no base stats. That would make then pretty useless, wouldn't it?
That's basically the idea, I wanted to find out exactly how useless though
Really bad so bad it would make Magi Carp MORE useful then a 0 stat Mew Two despite that Magi Carp without it evolving it SUCKS.
If Magikarp got a moveset outside of Tackle, I would agree.
Hardly the moveset I expected from a pokemon with about the defenses of the bottom half of an abra, but that's gen one for you I guess-
Yeah, OP moveset and no stats was too interesting not to try.
The return of MewPoo 🤣🤣
He comes around once a year, like Christmas
🤣🤣🤣 Hi mom, I'm home from beating the champion, and I'm wounded.
Mom: 🙄🙄🙄 go fight Professor Oak.
😢😢😢 you're not gonna heal me?
🤣🤣🤣
Agreed on both points, but hey, it's all a fantasy at the end of the day.
@RBYPokemonChallenges for real.
i wonder if GSC Challenges is gonna do something like this
I dare him to try!
I imagine professor Oak saying to you before handing the starter away:" Hey,kid,do you want an extra poo on that Mewtwo?😂😂
Having a temo version of Mewtwo with every stat being a 0 with a 0dvs was incredible and interesting. Your saving grace was relying on badge boost and recover. But up until then ,the early game is going to remain extremely tough. But hey,at least the score in the overlay broke because you made history with this kind of run.😁👏
And you were right,that was very educational, because I can't wait to see how the legendary trio from the bottom of the chart (Weedle,Carterpie and Magikarp) would do with 255 and max dvs in thier stats?🤔
I would bet they all get walled by Agatha unless we give them better moves.
@17Master True. Regular Magikarp and Caterpie are basically walled by the Pokemon tower, because they can't hit the mandatory channelers. Only an event Magikarp could do that with bubble or dragon rage, and Carterpie would need bug bite(if we are going to allow back porting a move from later gens)or allowing it to learn bide.
Yeah, I plan to use a standard mon in Weedle for the next one. Absolute pain in the late-game.
@RBYPokemonChallenges Yeah,I bet that pokemon tower would be really time consuming,Koga and add Blaine into the mix too.
I havent finished watching this yet, but with the money and blackout grinding did you consider buying items to resell later as a way to bank money
I knew we wouldn't be going vitamins due to limits and so we would only really ever need money for Full Restores, and MAYBE Substitute or Mimic. So I saved items throughout to sell for money at the end of the run.
I think it doesn't matter what pokemon you pick if you have base 0 in every stat. It's gonna be bad.
Oh yeah! It's just a question of how bad.
Hey, does anyone know what this song is? 20:34 - 21:03
Sorry, that's an original BGM track for my channel. Not sure if it's in the playlist, but you can check in my playlists section. I'm in the process of adding all of the originals and outside royalty free BGM I use to a single playlist for anyone who wants to check it, so hold tight.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges thank you :)
MewPU tier XD
Lower than Bruno tier. but just barely....
Wait a minute.
I just had a thought.
What if you have 0 Base stat speed, but use Focus Energy to divide your critical hit chance by 4?
Does the game just crash? lol
No, it would just make you still never crit. The game is just dividing the current Crit Rate by 4, and it always round down fractions, so a 1/256 * 1/4 basically just becomes 0 in the programming and it moves on.
Also I've been sick since I woke up this past Saturday morning, and I've been wrote out of work until Wednesday, so I can now watch this right now instead of later. 😊😊😊
Hope you get better soon, but glad to help you pass the time!
Hiw did you get enough ethers to farm the elite 4 ?
While grinding levels I wasn't using ethers
28:55-29:00 😊😊😊
29:00-29:04 😢😢😢
🤣🤣🤣
"The worst Pokemon imagimle"
Is that how the captions came out? I need to enunciate more 😂
@@RBYPokemonChallenges no, it's what you said! I'm just being a jerk. There's not actually a problem here, you just slipped up on one word. Everyone does that sometimes.
Next as a rock ground type 😂
That just sounds unnecessarily brutal 😂
@RBYPokemonChallenges Suffering for content! Ahahaha!
I'm 8 minutes in, you didn't swap to swift with the eevee using sand?
RIP. I was having too much fun enjoying watching MewPoo2 get pwned.
@@RBYPokemonChallenges fair! im finishing watching now. saving after Loreli while only level 82 was bold
so now check if you can do it with other types
Pretty sure if we tried this with a poison, fire, or fighting type, they couldn't finish the game.
ah, mewzero.
He is actually the evolved form or Mewzero, which had only 20 base power moves from my video last year, which evolved into MewPoo, a Mewtwo that had to beat the game with Psywave Bide Counter and Rage, and now MewPoo2 has finally vien back it's moveset only to find that its stats are a bit lacking....
@ well, as a wise mew once said, the twoeth giveth and the twoeth taketh away
Insane
I aim to please!
Amnesia might be helpful
Yeah, but not getting it until level 81 with the slow level group was a heck of a grind.
11:25 Was that two in a row gen 1 misses?
That’s what it looked like 😧 hard to believe that he wouldn’t mention that since it’s like 1 in 65,000
RIP, but it is prettty par for the course at this point lol
*cough* ditto *cough*
But it would lose its stats to teansoformatikn
Cool vid
It ended with 69 all over 😂
Perfection
This really slams my PP up
👏👏👏
Spearow
My arch nemesis
255 base stat weedle when?
I think that will work lol. Max stats weedle should 3 shot a lvl 60 gengar that had no stat exp and middle DVs. That's including the fact that weedle would crit every turn
This is the Rom hack that is currently sitting on my desktop....
@@RBYPokemonChallenges yesss
nice....
Top 250 views lfg
LFG!!!!!
Jw, does a slow growth rate allow for more ev accumulation per lvl up when compared to faster growth rates and thus more stat gains per lvl? I’m attributing this to having to battle more mons per lvl. Although idk at all if this is how that works, but I was just curious if it did
In a sense, yes, but it really is just making the progression slower overall to get to higher levels. The formula has the sqrt(state exp)/4 x Level, so while you get more stat exp, you're balancing that aainst lower levels for the same number of battles.
Ok. I guess I have a better understanding? I understand that it makes the progression considerably slower, but I’m wondering if it does have an advantage in that each lvl can give more stat gains than with a faster lvl up group mon? And thus for a challenge like this, is that more advantageous as far as being able to gain more stats overall? Or is it rather negligible (if even what I’m saying is what is happening in the game…)
Ironically, you'd probably have a much faster run by primarily fighting weak wild pokemon until you can easily beat the trainers.
Most of your stats are from stat experience, and stat experience is the same no matter what level your opponent is. It's also the same between trainers and wild pokemon iirc
Yeah, I mentioned that. But the calculation is (sqrt(stat exp)/4 x Level)/100, so gaining levels is important for making the stat exp actually translate into stat increases. This is especially true because fractions always round down in the calculation, so level increases are needed to even make the stat exp increases relevant.
Step it up like why
I know, right.... These challenges are way too easy!
37:01-37:04 oh dear goodness. 🤣🤣🤣
the premise of these videos are really boring of course a 0 stat pokemon is trash. Of course Weedle with 255 base everything is good. YAWN
To each their own, I suppose. Thanks for stopping in and commenting!
If 1 Base HP results in always 1HP [Shedinja] isn't 0 base HP literally 0 HP?
Also; regarding your conclusion; the best pokemon in terms of type *and movepool* wouldn't Mew actually be better? Mew does learn every TM after all.
Shediinja is a special case that doesn't use the standard HP calculation formula. It's just hard-coded to always have 1 HP.
Mew is worse because it doesn't get Amnesia. which is by far and away the most OP move in Gen 1.
Omg, a SLOW growth rate too? Why would you do this to yourself? 😂😂😂
For science, kind of...
Mewtwo has covid
Like, original COVID, not the weak stuff that goes around these days...
funny how you sound like goodtimeswithscar
Never heard of them, but I'll take your word for it.
If there was only 1 Mewtwo. Why is it everyone can catch one?
I always wondered how that worked. And Porygon is technically a computer program. How does that even count?