MK7 GTI Steel Oil Pan DIY Install (No More Plastic)
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2016
- Get rid of the plastic oil pan on your MK7 GTI, Golf or Golf R. In this DIY we show you how to remove and install the oil pan on your MK7 model.
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For those who don't see the value of a steel pan...I live in NY state. Not uncommon for blocks of ice to fall off vehicles. I encountered one of these one morning while driving to work in my brand new Golf. (Too dark to see before I hit it.). Minor thud. Drove about four miles to work. At quitting time I walked out to my car to find it sitting in a "lake" of oil.
And speaking of ice and cold, the Mk 7.5 GTI can't have a block heater installed. For people who live in sub zero climates, the only other way to keep the oil warm for cold start ups is an oil pan heater... Which requires a steel oil pan. Not a cheap plastic one.
Whenever I'm using sealant like this I screw in two or three longish grub screws to make alignment easier. Once I've got a few bolts in I take out the grub screws and replace with original bolts.
I think that idea would work well for lining up the sump on this conversion.
Good product in my opinion. I'd rather dent a steel sump than risk a crack in a composite/plastic part.
Absolutely great video. I have little confidence in the plastic oil pan over time. This is first mod on my list for my MK7 Sportwagen.
Your videos make our projects very possible and understandable thank you 🖖
Great job, as always!
It's pretty sad that these MK7's come stock with a plastic oil pan. Way to go VAG
Yep! Weight reduction/profit margin extension, I guess.
Thanks for the video.. but what is the benefit of metal or aluminum oil pan over the original one?
Super professionnel video !
HOLA DESDE ESPAÑA, TIENES ALGÚN VÍDEO DEL CAMBIO DEL REFRIGERANTE? GRACIAS.
This kit is plug and play for vw polo gti 1.8 tsi ea888? Thanks for your video
Good Work ! Do you have the référence of the 20 bolts please ? I buy on a net the same model but no bolts incluse. Thank you.
Can you pull the oil level sensor after the drain plug to get any remaining oil before the pan is taken off?
old video but this along with an intercooler from you guys are my next upgrades along with a skid plate form ecs. my buddy in my car club hit a bump in his lowered mk7 going over a speed bump and ripped his oil pan off. completely seized his engine before he realized what had happened. poor thing only had 8,000 miles on it.
I've seen this exact problem with metal pans too on lowered cars.
What's the thread pitch on the oil pan drain bolt? I would love to add a Fumoto valve :)
Can you use the same screws and do you need new screws with the metal sump?
Great video! i just bought my first new car yesterday which is a MK7 GTI S and you guys at DAP really helped me with that decision so thank you and I will definitely be buying parts from you guys soon. Back on the topic of the video, you guys should maybe try to include some sort of Snap-Ups clips to hold the pan up to help with the install. Don't know if that's a possibility for you but when i did the oil pan on my 94 F150 it was a real headache saver. Keep up the good work!
Congrats on the new car!!! Thanks for watching glad you like. We appreciate you considering us for your purchases.
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How long do you wait for the rtv?
How heavy is this to that of the plastic oe sump ?
Does the oil capacity change with this new pan?
It's necesary remplace the bolts for another ones ? Or are the same for the steel Oil pan?
It would be nice if there was an actual gasket for this part.
Got one from orielly, ecs tuning sells them as well.
so bad! well, firstly, this video is awesome and really really helpful!! It works, and let me tell you this pan is darn easy to screw up without this video. But I still screwed up because I purchased from ECS tuning... that one has serious quality issue!! The mount for oil sensor is not good, the screw can not go straight on it and eventually it won't go any further, leaving a loose sensor! I applied very heavy strength to force it down, I guess it works in the end? But no way to torque it, and no way to tell if it will cause problem eventually. The OEM plastic has so many little pieces to help sealing (really high quality in details, really) but none on the steel one - again I suspect it will leak oil around the oil sensor. Then, the pan screws are only 1/2 length of OEM ones wtf? well it still works I think. In general I think it's a poorly produced steel pan that might work, unfortunately I applied the sealant on the wrong side of the screws, leaving oil leaking from screw holes, stupid me. Desperately took it down, cleaned up the sealant on the upper pan, omg, reinstalled OEM ones -- I just reused the original screws, I will replace them if they show problem in the future. But again, this video is perfect and I almost got it right! Easily.
When I changed my oil with your liquid molly kit my factory oil filter housing didnt have the dipstick that yours had in your video. Mines a 2018 so I dont know if they changed the design?
what's the brand of the Torque Wrench that you used?
What adaptor did u use for your drill
Why didn't you use a felpro gasket? It makes the work so much easier and cleaner.
What years does this cover? I own a 2019....will this oil pan fit my car?
Will this apply and fit on a 2019 Jetta GLI?
What's the size of the drain plug on these oil pans?
What model impact were you using?
will this kit also work on the 1.4L VW engines here in Canada? or just 2.0 TSI thanks
If I buy this part and bring it to a shop, could they do this for me next time I get an oil change?
does it help with the oil temp?
Le queda al golf 1.4?
I'd be interested if / how the oil temps changed after swapping to a steel pan.
My 7 GTD is running quite hot after a few mins beyond 200km/h
Nice quality on your videos man keep it up!
One thing, does DAP ships out of the states? Let's say Mexico
Thanks for the feedback! We are sorry we dont ship outside the US at this time.
is that normal the cars done 18000 so far thanks in advance .
is that normal the cars done 18000 so far thanks in advance
Hi , May I ask if this fit Skoda octavia Mk3 1.4 TSI engine? I got a split oil pan now. hate the plastic pan now. Could you comfirm the fit please? And if you ship to Uk? Many thanks!
Question gentleman, i need to replace my oil pan gasket, but i just got an oil change. Literally yesterday. Can I, should I reuse it? I pay 80 bucks for the oil change, so id hate to have to replace it. What are your thoughts?
Thank u 👌👌👌
Is anyone running a Fumoto valve on the plastic or metal pans? I ran them on all my vehicles including a lowered Subaru. It is nice to not require tools or to lift a vehicle to do an oil change. Looks like the 106S will fit. I've never thought that magnetic oil (unlike transmission) plugs were useful since you have a fine paper oil filter that gets changed. Do people actually find silt or shavings on the magnets?
Do you still need oil pan gasket?
If I change the oil pan with this metal one how much quantity of oil I need to put after?În my CJSA originally enter 5.2 L , but on CDAA engine from where is otiginally the steel pan enter 4.6L.
i dont see the oil pan gasket, with the steel doesn't need one?
Hello! I bought the same oil pan in Bartek motorsport. It wasn't a seal ring for the oil level sensor. I used sealant for it. Can you give me part number of the seal ring?
I was hoping to see the crankshaft. Is it difficult to remove the windage tray just to take a look?
Dont know didnt even look at it. I had a lot going on when I was shooting the video
Paul.
Does anyone know the length of the bolts needed to do this swap. Bought the pan just need the bolts but unsure on length
Amazing they just quoted me 800 dollars for something I could do myself buying the upgraded part for a tenth of the price.
This will void the warranty ?
is this a tuning oli pan or from another VAG car ?
All right bro I'm doing the pan without replacing the baffle like all data says, if it comes back to bite me I'm blaming you LOL😅
Do you have to let the seal cure for any amount of time before adding oil?
AOV 15 minutes. then i add oil. check it. wait an hour. start. check for leaks again. after that youre all set. ive used RTV on more oil pans than i can count and have always used this process and never had one come back leaking
Paul - for those of us who don't have a lift, what's the safest and easiest way to get under the car to do a job like this? Ramps? Jack stands? I'll likely be attempting this install myself.
Take a look here ruclips.net/video/eCZEq7pAHUE/видео.html
Just got this kit. Cracked my stock oil pan. Now on that drain plug can you reuse it always or do you have to switch it out or put a new washer or anything???
Drain plug should last you forever as long as you dont strip the head or threads. Crush washer should be replaced every oil change
I live in a warm and dry climate. Any idea as to how long this nylon/plastic oil pan will last?
It sees little UV and already gets very hot when the engine runs id say up to 20 years no problem I have a 17 year old Volvo where they already used a fair amount of plastic parts like the valve cover is all plastic and its not even leaking yet which is impressive.
I need to do an oil pan but I will stick with the plastic one. I want to make more hp that way cuz it’s lighter. 😆😆😆😆
But since I’m using the plastic pan with the rubber gasket, do I still need to add some sealant on the rubber gasket to get a proper seal or will the rubber gasket be enough?
Anyone? Thanks.
ECS tuning has a Aluminum pan with a rubber gasket just like the OEM pan. Spend the extra $100 and invest in that. I bought one of these and my first try I had a small leak. Second try it sealed off good and I’m still running it but I have 0 confidence in the sealant, so many things can go wrong if you don’t know how to put the sealant on correctly. I feel much safer with the rubber seal.
for real!
A steel sheet metal pan is even worse than the OEM plastic imo!
Cast aluminum is superior.
Hello everyone
While changing to steel one i used the long bolts and accidentally hole through the block, and now the oil is dripping not much but its a leak. Is there anyone with the same problem. ?
Would this procedure be similar on a regular MK7 Golf 1.8t?
Yes
Do you have to wait for the silicone seals to cure at all before adding oil back into the car?
Optimally yes, wait 24 hours for it to fully cure, then add oil to the car and go for a drive. That being said in a pinch I only waited 3 hours and it seemed to work fine, but I was removing the part later so it was not planned to be permanent.
Hey Paul will the magnetic drain plug be compatible with the factory plastic oil pan on the MK7 Golf R??
+Carmelo Susino yes it will be. It's coming soon.
Do you recommend waiting for the RTV sealant to fully cure before filling up with oil? If so, is that 24 hours?
if you can that would be a safe bet. I did the tensioner update on my mk6 and waited 16 hours for the RTV to cure. No leaks as far as my eyes can see.
Ideally you would allow time for the RTV to cure so that it will squish and seal better instead of squeezing out of the sides
How much oil should a mk 7 vw golf gti performance pack reasonably use between services vw put castrol magnatec 10w 40 in ,it used 500ml in 8000 miles
I used none between 10K oil change
I changed out my oil pan to to the exact one and it keeps on leaking from the oil level sensor. I'm thinking the gasket for it is bad. My car has about 60,000 miles on it. Could it be possible that the gasket is just old? But I'm wondering why it wasn't leaking when it was on the old oil pan? Any advice?
A lot could have happened- over torqued, under torqued, dry seal, maybe it was compromised when it was pulled off the old one. I would snag a new gasket and replace it at your next oil change. I try not to reuse gaskets and seals- case in point: the canister style oil filters come with a new seal, so they don’t intend you to reuse those, either.
Is there one specifically made for the mk6 as well or am I out of luck? Lol
MK6 has a metal pan already.
going to make a higher capacity baffled pan for cars that see track time?
We have no intentions at this time.
+Deutsche Auto Parts
should the wortec one is expensive.
U want to remove oil filter first.
Because the old oil in the filterhousing will drain down in the oilpan when u open it. This way u get the most of the old oil drained
Is it possible to use a rubber gasket again instead of using a sealant?
Rod Dizon no
cmo1298 I meant a new rubber gasket, not the same one that came off. 🤦🏻♂️
Rod Dizon it’s designed to work with the sealant not a rubber gasket.
I have a mk7 GTI with about 30k miles, had oil leak on right side of oil pan, so i decided to change oil gasket. That didnt really work, im still having oil leaks on oil pan, the oil pan is wet. Im thinking the oil pan might have a crack in it somewhere where i dont see it. Im thinking of switching to metal oil pan, do you think this will solve my issue?
What did you end up doing?
Benefits of the steel pan over the oem plastic pan?
It won't crack into a million pieces if it hits something.
none 😅
A cast aluminum part would actually be better than the plastic.
Hi. I saw the car is equipped with an open type intake filter. Do you think it is useful at all or a close system is a better choice? Have you actually dyno the car between standard and the open type and see the difference?
Enjoy watching your video btw!
We dont have any dynos. But a closed system would let less ambient air into the car. We only have the open one as it was one of the only intakes out when we did this install.
Does this oil pan work on a 2016 Tiguan..?
Lawrence Paiva
No it does not
Lawrence Paiva I believe the older Tiguans do not have a plastic oil pan. My mom has a 2012 and he drain plug and gasket for the plug are metal. usually if the oil pan is plastic it will have a plastic drain plug
Thank you for the information..will check
back when paul used a torque wrench and not just an impact LOL
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Does the steel pan dissipate heat better? Do any "scientific" testing? :D
We have not done any testing on this. Based on how metal vs composites transfer heat it should be better but its likely too marginal to see any major effects from this.
How many pounds of torque???
Newton Meters - It's German car, metric units
does this apply to the mk6 gti?
mk6 also has plastic oil pan in stock?
It does not
Make sure you buy the appropriate sized oil pan bolts!!!! The original bolts will not fit the new steel oil pan
+Deutsche Auto Parts
old pan is plastic???😕
+Ardian Guci yes the original oil pan is plastic
Hi. Why should I replace a (working) plastic pan with a steel one? Isn't the steel one heavier? What would be the benefit of this?
BTW:
Nice to see the Audi logo in the upper oil pan :D
This is for people with lowered vehicles who are concerned about breaking oil pans. A steel pan will hold up to abuse better.
+Deutsche Auto Parts I want my golf 7 gti deeper this also with H & R springs that are 35 mm deeper? german*
Stronger than a plastic pan and what's more likely to happen from an impact is a dent instead of a crack. Cracked pan means you need a new one, dented means it's still alright and the dent can be hammered out. I might do this since I don't have the splash guard covering the front of the pan anymore.
Make one for 2015 2.7 f150 please aftermarket gods. Get rid of plastic junk for all the f150s
Has the magnetic plug been released yet?
The MK7 Turn in one?
Yes
Spinal2111 Not yet. We are about 30-45 days out.
Wow vw. A whole 40 bucks saved on each car.
With the countless ways to lose weight on a car, I fail to see the point of shaving a few minor pounds with plastic engine components.
As far as plastic goes, that looks pretty sturdy. Still surprised they would do that though.
Am I the only person who can't use rtv correctly. I always end up with a small leak
Shane_sleeperjetta I know this is 8 months ago but did you figure out the issue?
Adding weight to a sporty car? Doing lot of off roading? I fail to see the point. Even Porsche have moved over to plastic oilpan on the 911 and the new 718.
This is generally installed by people who lower their vehicles. Plastic pans work fine but not so much when your vehicle is slammed and potential for impact is high. Hope this explanation makes sense.
+Deutsche Auto Parts Ah, then I understand, thank you.
Don't see the point in adding weight? After spending $1600 on a repair that would never have been necessary if my car came from the factory with metal instead of plastic I see the point. Reliability.
sorry to hear that but what happened?
most cars come with aluminum oil pans. I ran a rock over on a mountain with a HHR a while back, and the fact it was metal meant nothing. It put a baseball size hole right into the oil pan. I lost all the oil
Silicone is a deal breaker. Why not just design the pan to use the factory gasket?
didn't you guys have another one that increased oil capacity from a third party
We did not.. But the one youre talking about is made of Aluminum
+Deutsche Auto Parts sorry. thank you
Guys, GT350 have plastic oil pan. Chill
I cannot believe VW put a plastic oil pan in! OMG! I thought the intake/ valve cover was bad enough.
Joshua Schofield weight
Valve cover isn’t plastic?
Im so glad i didnt wait for the mk7. seems like its soooo cheaply made...
Its not but keep in mind cars are not designed with the intention of the oil pan taking an impact.
Deutsche Auto Parts how long do you have to wait for the sealant to cure before putting the oil back in the car??
Recent victim of the plastic pan:
ruclips.net/video/lsupzOakXoc/видео.html
A plastic oil pan? Dear lord!
I was all for this until I saw it uses rtv instead of a gasket...seems a little too backyard mechanic-y for me
+ricky johnson the OEM steel pan that is the original application of this pan uses sealant too. So did all the previous generations with aluminum pans. The mk7 is the first VW in over a decade to use an actual gasket(a few less common model excluded). Not sure if that helps make it feel more legitimate or not.
I know it's legitimate and obviously a well made part I just feel like if it came with a gasket it should have a gasket
+ricky johnson you can't do that as the pan design doesn't accommodate.
I understand that but if you're designing this part to replace something why not keep it the same? Or is this just a part off an older car that you guys get from an outside supplier?
Almost all Hondas used sealant only for decades. Same with many Japanese cars, really. Sealant is actually less likely to leak than a gasket. Just saying. Holy hell I didn't know anything used a plastic oil pan though.
Hot Take:
I take the plastic pan over a sheet metal piece. The plastic pan is a very high quality part I can tell you that with confidence.
Sheet metal oil pans do 2 things very well:
-Rust
-Have leaks
I'm sorry man I dont see how this is an improvement over the oem plastic pan.
A strong cast aluminum pan would be an improvement but not thin sheet metal
I would take a steel pan any day over plastic. just say this slowly P L A S T I C! PLASTIC! God dang plastic! weight reduction? really? for a car that can be tuned to 400hp+??
DAP! I take the steel pan. I am dying for my warranty to end...then I am coming at you.
I want to wake up this beast! 2019 GTI!
Is this where honey comes from?