The Best Sci-fi Game. Period.
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- Well. Technically there are a lot of people who play Stellaris, but it could have been far more if it wasn't for steep learning curve and heavy DLC pricing.
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Stellaris has this universe that somehow feels like Star Wars, Star Trek, 40 K, Mass Effect, and dune all at the same time!
If I had to further boil down that summary, it's like Star Wars, Mass Effect, Cyberpunk, and 40k all at once
I was running mods that literally had all those plus Halo Mass Effect and Battlestar Galactica
Stellaris is the only space game that has ever met my expectations
starsector my frnd that game is also amazing
Try Mass Effect. If yo don’t love it to death then something is wrong with you. 😂
Ai sucks tho
No Man's Sky and KOTOR met mine
I had realistic expectations for NMS based on its early trailers. People who closely followed interviews and every breadcrumb about it pre-release got overhyped.
The Endless franchise (Endless Space, Endless Legend, Endless Dungeon, etc.) has an interesting universe.
Horizon Zero Dawn also blew me away with it's sci-fi side, though the primitive culture worldbuilding was weaker.
Hopefully they're working on a sequel with even better graphics and detail
Stellaris is indeed amazing. The only thing I wish it had is a deeper space and much deeper ground combat. Paradox gets a lot of hate, but the amount of changes to even their base game that their custodian team makes, along with the new content additions a few times a year is the perfect way (imho) to continue to fund a game's development. I just bought the latest paragons expansion just to support the devs even though I haven't fired up Stellaris in a few months. I hope they continue to be profitable so we have clear examples in the gaming industry where reasonable monetization for hard work is possible for continued development and enhancement of products. I also hope the cash grab DLC monetization (without any real meaty additions), gamble boxes, NFT ideas from other studios continue to fail miserably also so we (as gamers) set the right precedent on what we are willing to fund.
Stellaris is one of my favourite games of all time. Yeah admittedly it does have a bit of a steep learning curve too it because of all the mechanics involved but once you get a handle on it the game's potential expands massively. I get what you're saying about the sheer scope of the game being its own problem as it's daunting to newer players but given the community based around the game, I still think it's in a very healthy place.
Something that should be noted: in the multiplayer, only the host needs the DLC in order for the lobby to have that content. Don't know if you want DLC x? find a lobby with that DLC, and test out the stuff in that DLC. or just have a friend that you can leech off of.
I didn't know that Ukrainian president Zelensky had a gaming channel
As someone who spent a lot of hours on Stellaris since last 2 months. For starters I'd recommend buying the starter pack bundle. You'll get 2 very important dlcs in my opinion (Galactic Paragon and Utopia). Only buy DLCs when you really need it and you find it cool!
This game is what I was thinking of that needs to be combined with X4 for the UI and strategy stuff. I'd literally never be able to stop playing if these 2 were combined lol. Great vid bro!
Damn! That would have a literally PERFECT space game!!!
@@Nyxson Right! I wish studios would be more open to collaborate with each other on these kinds of projects.
@@Nyxson I'm thinking of trying this after watching your videos (new sub) - But I'm wondering what do you guys mean here ? What does X4 have that would add to what Stellaris has ?
Lots of simple mechanics are occuring all at the same time. Not complex just busy
Stellaris is one of the best game I ever played. You can play short, mid and long sessions, you can play only for the first phase and stop, because the game is separated in different phases.
All DLC gives different mechanics that get worked on, origins, races and all of this.
Stellaris is literally one of my favorite game ever made. The massive space empire simulator I ever wanted.
I want some more things, like a diplomacy rework and more espionnage options, but outside of this? It is amazing.
probably the best game i still dont know how to *really* play after ~30 hours. i always get to mid-game and lose sense of what i really got to do and restart. one day i'll figure it out.
Oh man, but Endgame crisis' are one of the best things in the game! Especially when YOU are that crisis 😂
Some good points. Unfortunately, the fact I can understand the points you make is only possible because I have played the game. I wait for sales and buy the new stuff that way. And it is both complicated, but actually, not that complicated at all.
It took me four playthroughs before I “got it” and it was still fun the entire time. I still don’t have the last couple dlcs but eventually I will grab them on a sale as I did the rest. I already had it for ps4 so full price wasn’t an option the 2nd time haha
I bought this recently and i agree with all these points, all the times I had played it before , the steep learning curve got me to refund, i think that happened almost 4 times. Each time I took like 20 minutes making a civ, get frustrated cause i cant make the civ i want cause dlc traits and then i would start and not know wtf to do without being overwhelmed. Now that I have experience with x4 foundations and other sims I have a certain threshold of overwhelming that I can handle now , and its why this last time I bought the game I could play it and enjoyed it a lot. But I'm not even an average gamer, I like strategy , ive fallen in love with space sims, and even then look at the difficulty I had.
Wow, I have had this game in my Steam library for two years and I even have some of the DLC (Federations and Utopia). I simply forgot that I had it in my library. I will definitely have to give it a try now. Thanks again for the video.
I would like to add, if you have friends that play this game and have all of the dlc's, if you play a multiplayer game with them you also have all of the dlc's during that game.
Something you can do, is you can make a save from that multiplayer game, and then play that save on your own. You still keep all the *instance* of the game meaning you have all of the dlc's for that game.
I don't complain much when it comes to games (kind of hard to in my opinion) but stellaris is amazing from the overall world building and story perspective.
Think about your favorite empire after they hit interplanetary travel. You control the fate of that empire. From the heroes that discover new planets to colonize to the admirals that control your fleets. Those *heroes* come from your planets, you could have a scientist pop that turns into a R&D leader that then gets lost in an anomaly only to show up 20 years later in your game and immortal? that then turns into the leader of your entire empire.
Like just that simple fact of the STORIES you tell after a stellaris campaign is just...insane nothing can beat it.
Its the customization you can add to everything to make it feel like something YOU did, but it actually requires imagination to pull off. You want to make mutants from Xmen? Abduct pops from pre ftl empires, modify their traits and stick them all on the same planet(colony ship + gaia world + forced migration / growth)
If your getting into the game i can heavily recommend the tutorials from maxthecatfish they helped me out alot. Although it might seem overwelming at first trust me it is worth it the game is so fun and has soo many features i can play for hours without getting bored
I get it. They cut the game apart, but if you listen to the community, follow guides, and advice. You can purchase the DLCs that really matter and download mods to get the full experience. As someone who grew up playing risk, star trek, and WH40k this game is perfect.
The fact there is so many DLCs is a healthy sign for the game, they are investing time and work into it. The community is very optimistic in general. The DLCs get bad reviews, but everyone buys them. A small content addition is packaged as a DLC. Ordinary mods made by players are much larger than the DLCs in what they add. But i have no problem funding Stellaris. Its a great game. Makes you think and strategize. Spacebattles look good. Every weapon looks different. I have over 4500 hours in Stellaris all in solo single player mode. I use a few mods to expand civics and ethics options. The only issue i have is the late game lag. In all of my 45oo plus hours i have never reached the end game. I mostly like to restart the game after a short play of a few hours. To reach the end game i think you would need to devote days to a single play through. The lag in late game slows the game down and apparently its because it is heavy on the processor of your pc. You can use some mods to tweak graphics and things like make the AI unable to spam construct habitats, but at the end of the day, the galaxy is large and every population you have is being processed by your PC and in the late game it gets slow even if you have lots of RAM. i am doing a test with playing on a 600 star galaxy instead of my usual 1000 star to see if it gives a performance boost or not. I play this game every day and i feel really optimistic about the future of this game, i think it will be played for many years to come hopefully. It sort of requires some willingness to use your brain to play it.. Strategy. And some reading of text boxes. you can play it while chilling at the same time. Great game very relaxing.
the fact that there is som many DLCs is an unhealthy sign for a game. because each and every DLC is designed to be independent of the game and independent of eachother. so, essentially, you just get a bunch of modules added thats closed off from the base game and closed off from eachother, essentially making it a shallow, wasted potential.
I understand that people hate the dlc policy of paradox but besides eu4 were you need them. games like stellaris and especially ck3 work without any dlc so its completly optional.
When going into games you sometimes need a certain mindset
Planetside: I suck and will die often, don’t get mad over it
Stellaris: I know nothing and need to be patient and curious to learn
Factorio: I will be very bad at the start and need to be patient enough to restart a system from scratch for improvement
It’s the games with the most aggressive learning curves that have some of the best gameplays behind them. Always keep an open mind because you will never be good at a game on first play.
I subscribed to you because of this vid - I love space games and have played all the types with the exception of 4x. Stellaris has been in my library for a few years ( yep, years ) and I think it's time to finally crack it open.
Stellaris is the ultimate Master of Orion successor we did not deserve. :D
Its a goddamn masterpiece.
And yes, this might be one of the last games that have REAL AddOns as DLCs. :D Most people just forgot what this is thanks to a generation of AAA games pushing addons as mandatory and calling it DLCs.
i wouldnt go that far to say its my favorite of all times cause there are so many good games out there besides it that do a great job and are still evolving. Rimworld for example.
I've got hundred mods on it to the point I can't play multiplayer lol
Play multi-player with a friend and you can use All their dlc. Great way to try it.
Stellaris is the only game I can return to after weeks or months of not playing it, and still have a genuinely unique experience from any of my previous times playing it. That speaks for itself.
Stellaris is daunting for first time players but like everything when it comes to repetition, it's actually not all that complex. You will have bad games when you first try it but once you get familiar and learn what to do early game (Researh labs, meeting economic needs, and ship building) it's one of the best space experiences ever.
sci-fi is not a game genre. it's the game's description.
SciFi is most literally a genre
@@Nyxson Then why are there sci-fi games that are FPSes and RTSes etc? It's not a game genre it's a descriptor of games.
@AngelusNielson you know that games can have multiple genres right?! Also I think you are referring to Game Setting but Settings also have multiple genres, like sci fi, historical, modern, etc.
If you don't believe me, just google "What is Scifi" and see what it will tell you
Tbh Stellaris has always felt like a game with a bit of an identity crisis, and all the bloated systems are interesting… in concept, but in execution are way too simplistic in their interactions. Also despite the amount of choices when making your empire, pretty much every game goes the same way. I’ve played it for a while and never thought it was too complicated personally, I stopped because it just felt too stale and the same events etc kept cropping up. Looking forward to the co-op update tho.
imagine elite dangerous clone, but set in the stellaris galaxy. that would be interesting.
The biggest problem stellaris has IMHO is that every game sort of feels the same way. Starting at empire creation most of the choises you make there for traits, civics, ethics, ... are just percentage modifiers that don't change the way you play and just make one aspect of the game slightly better or worse. Every run ends up beeing the smae, with maybe 2-3 diffrent ways to play.
Yea, if you look into stuff about space you'd be amazed how it coincides with Stellaris. All of the mega structures are actual theoretical things scientists have come up with, the lore of the game follows the most popular theories, such as the big bounce, and it even manages to deal with current day paradoxes - such as why haven't we found aliens. And so much more, for a 4x strategy game it's actually surprisingly deep rather than only strategic.
Even the crisis thing that you do, is an actual thing already thought up by scientists and IS theoretically possible to do.
Stellaris still suffers many performance issues, and their devs only keep pushing DLC instead of adressing these.
It is understandable how big this game is but everyone rather see them create a new game, or revamp their engine to resolve this issues then them sticking more code onto it.
And it is sad because i really love this game, But even with my Ryzen7 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT and 32GB of ram it is very stuttery in the end game borderline unplayable.
Good alternatives are:
Endless Space 2: More of a turn based approach to empire management, awesome factions and empires to pick each with their unique playstyle
Distant worlds 2: Stellaris on steroids, This has to be the biggest game i have ever seen, runs amazing even on massive galaxy sizes (Real time Strategy)
Galactic Civilization 4: Basically Sid Meier civ but in space also manages better on huge galaxies then stellaris.
Hope the devs will fix their broken game or at least we get super computers or some stuff because unless you have 6GHZ single core performance you aint having fun on the end/late game
Distant worlds blows this out of the water. This is like a puddle to the ocean that is distant worlds
My only complaint about stellaris is that I can't fight on the ground and lead my empire. What is an emperor if he doesn't lead his empire from the front lines?
I have over 900hrs in this game, and out of the thousands of campaigns I've played, I've beaten it a handful of times. I love it
This is the video i needed, ive been on the fence about getting this game due to the overwhelming nature it gives off. I had the base game and a bunch of dlc in my steam aboht to buy it all considering it is om winter sale right now. But you seem to be right about just trying the the base game first and sinking some time into.
This game is crazy good. 500 hrs in Stellatis and I dont regret and I will play many more.
Thank you Nyxson for talking about this game
I was always looking for a grand strategy game like Stellaris. Where u dont need to manage your battle but empire. I got the game, with few "essential" DLCs and it was great. Sadly im not playing it anymore. It is good that devs are actually responding to the player base but it has also dowsides. For mé personally im not playing it anymore (im sure im not the only one) because it is too complex in many things. In limited free time I have Ive spend weeks learning it and I was at finally getting grasp on things when som other mechanics i didnt pay attention to bit me in the ass. So i štarte learning it. But now comes the downside. They totally reworked fleets and combat. And that was killer for me. Dont get me wrong, im not dissing the game. It is just not for People with limited Free time to finely learn the such complex mechanics, just to len olnd ones again because they changed something... It is amazing game, but sadly not for me
Time is the one thing I don't have in spades. If I'm digging in, I don't want to pick up every feature piecemeal or deal with overhauls. I already have a unreasonable playlist... Like 700 titles deep and Im a dad, I work 14 hour days on the road as a trucker, 5 days a week, and I am an indie dev and artist when I can afford to be on top of all that... If it's between this of an X game, you shouldn't have to think too hard on what I'm gonna sink my time into.
Stellaris is an amazing game however I would do your homework on what dlc to buy
If more games were priced like Stellaris you would have better games.
Well, I just got the game with all its DLC during the recent Paradox sale so there's at least one new player. I like 4X games and have played some other Paradox games before though so I already know what to expect from these kinds of games.
What you forgot to say about the DLC is :
If you have a friends who play this game a lot and HAVE all the DLC, when you join their game you can try the DLCs with them wihout having to pay for them. A nice way to try the DLC before buying them too and check if you think it worth your wallet
Perfect point
I need to test this out with my friend who has all the DLCs, but could you have them set up the game in multiplayer and then you return to the save in single player to have all the DLCs?
No, DLCs are shared only in Multiplayer matches
Shame, not much else I can say.
It was worth asking, good to know.
Honestly, $250 for a game the size of Stellaris, with all DLC doesn't sound so bad. Hell, I paidclose to that for Civilization 6 Anthology edition, because I know I'm going to play this thing FOREVER.
Thanks so mkuch, you and the steam discount this week convincd me to give it a try. Great video.
My problem with Stellaris is, unsurprisingly, its dlc. From the boardroom, It's clearly a platform for selling hundreds of dollars in DLC.
Meanwhile, I prefer the equally well thought out and fully modable Distant Worlds 2.
The DLCs are what they, and the complexity they imply definitely isnt the hold back for me... As an indie dev, a grognard, and a tightwad, I'm not willing to support that or at least not that level of shenanigans by a group as large and pervasive as Paradox.
Really though, I'd much rather play X4 or Distant Worlds and mod it to do anything under in the multiverse.
That said, I am glad you get so much joy from it, and I understand why, its just a personal preference.
Maybe if I could literally respawn, I'd give it a shot, but until then, YoLo! 😂
Thabks for the content, either way.
I came from the xbox version. just bought the pc version with all dlcs at 7 this morning lol
I bought this game 2 years ago, no dlc, and I love space games, no man's sky, strategic games...
I really want to play this game BUT STILL, I'm not motivated enough to read all those **** text, only to understand what is happening and enjoy the game -_-
Stellaris is a game thats a mile wide and one inch deep. The choices are so shallow and empty for all the choices really dont matter. To each their own though enjoy what you like.
Just wait for sales over time. That's what I did.
Hoi4 (unless you’re playing Germany) is worse. Stellaris has a reputation for being extremely easy to both learn and play in the Paradox community, second only to CK3.
People in Paradox community are crazy (in a good sense), that doesn't make this easy for most.
@@Nyxson very true.
So is it worth buying? Its on sale now for 10€ 🙀🙀🙀
X4(really the entire X series), Stellaris. Avorion, No man, Empyrean: GS
These are the only space game I can say are the “greats of all time” and I’ll die on that hill
Great video mate. I normally play Paradox historical games, but I do have Stellaris that I bought ages ago. And I did have a great time with it, but stopped playing games for awhile. I am back now, playing Civ V - but this video is good to know that I can still play the base game (I do have Megacorps, got it super cheap one day...).
Thanks 🙂
The only expansion I recommend at purchase is Distant Stars. I have all of them. I love all of them. I've been playing since launch and I truly do love it when new people pick up this game. Paradox makes awesome games and their DLC release system is one of the friendliest to consumers on the market. Stellaris is not the same game that launched in 2016. It is so much more now.
Imma give it another try! I have very fond memories of playing it for the small amount I already have.
I absolutely LOVE Stellaris, but unfortunately it's from paradox, and the game show you things blocked by DLC within the game, literally cut content
Stellaris can feel overwhelming to approach for sure. Heck, it can feel overwhelming to come back to after taking a break. But the amount of hours of quality in this game make me feel the price for entry isn't that outrageous. And the devs are very passionate, releasing lots of content even after all these years.
Ok. I’ll get it.
Dwarf Fortress has this problem.
I hate to say this because I don't disagree with you, but this video is a terrible argument.
Your two main critiques of the idea that stellaris is inaccessible (that the breadth of base game mechanics and volume of dlc should defy player expectations) are presented as self-evident.
There is little substance to explain where the ideas ideas come from or why they are wrong; these are catastrophic omissions because your target audience for this argument is presumably people who have decided not to play Stellaris and this audience will inherently need those questions answered.
On the matter of target audience, the video title doesn't reach out to anybody in particular; I personally clicked on it because I wanted to know which game "can not be played" and why, expecting an interesting answer about some obscure game that can not actually be played, rather than a game that I do play that I already know has a lower barrier to entry than it seems.
There is some explanation for why players should be satisfied with the base game, if pain points are assumed to be invalid, which is better arguing than other parts of the video.
Overall, the argument needed less repetition of supposedly self-evident points and more evidence to support them. Perhaps a title change too, like "Why can't new players get into Stellaris?"
Its an amazing game but somehow it never hooked me like eu4 and ck3 maybe i miss the water but i dunno
“Best for least”
Me spending over 100 dollars on all of Stellaris DLC because I can’t stop SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME!
Great video! Love your passion!
Just started playing this game and wow it's amazing! Bought all the DLC yesterday.
Last time I played was 2 years ago.
Have they added the private sector (vs just the state) yet? Is the AI less dumb yet? Can I trade systems with the AI again? Can demilitarized zones be established in diplomacy?
Is the combat less awful? How heavy handed is the combat meta now?
Does it still slow down to a crawl near the end?
always wait for a sale to get it, or cheeky cheap keys from fishy websites.
Also coop mode was added lately so you can help teach/get taught by your buddies to play the game.
When I see so much DLCs in one game I avoid it.
And in this case you are making a huge mistake
in a dollar per hour comparison games in general are far cheaper than just about any other entertainment except sitting around and talking. 10-15 bucks for a movie? about $5 per hour, going to a concert? averages maybe $25 an hour depending on the concert. games you play for hundreds of hours? less than $1 per hour.
also decent promo
I get dollars per hour but what do you mean by "decent promo"?!
@@Nyxson i hope they paid you for that, it's the best ad i've seen for that game yet.
Of course not! Not every positive video is ad... however, I would love to be paid for things I would do anyway 😂
Stellaris is the ultimate space opera.
It is worth every penny.
One can watch a sci-fi show, then create the alien civilization in the show.... it's amazing.
And Distant Worlds offers so much more ...
Stellaris is my absolute jam, I really wish it got more recognition!
I love Stellaris. But the ground combat is pretty bad. If ground combat matched space combat that would be an improvement.
Its not really that no or partial DLC stellaris is bad. But they from the very start of trying to play it shove it down your throat thay you are playing an "unfinished" product if you did not pay the 200$ for all the dlc.
And the 200 is with half of the existing dlc at half price or 75% off because of a deal lol .
I’m stuck between getting two games. Stellaris and Age of Wonders 4. In your opinion what game would you get?
A very difficult choice... these are 2 of my favorites. I guess choice is between whether you like SciFi more or Fantasy
@@Nyxson I ended up getting stellaris because I don’t have much SiFi games compared to fantasy. I’ve only played it for 2 hours but it’s one of the best strategy experience I’ve had it really gets me going. Thanks for helping me decide. 😁
Can someone please tell me what the game at 0:21 to 0:27 is? (I went through Google Image Search and couldn't get the answer).
Thanks!
All you needed is to ask 😊 It's Spacebourne 2
Distant Universe 2 is another great game.
What is the space game at 23 seconds?
Spacebourne 2
ngl the biggest thing that always turned me away from stellaris is how often they fundamentally change the game and I have to relearn how to play again, also wars are tedious AF and not really all that fun compared to wars in EU4 or Hoi4 even Vicky 2. With the ship building meta making wars even more tedious annoying and a headache to relearn every time you hop back in.
none of the youtubers who do grand PDX campaigns ever take it to stellaris for a reason
I like stellaris as a concept and it's roleplaying and my love of sci-fi, but it certainly feels like a knock off of EU4 in space after all these years with a lot of it's mechanics
Is stellaris as complex as the other games?
This guy definitely also love the fat check from stellaris
Aren't you supposed to be running Ukraine instead of playing video games?
Kek
My was favorite time was 1.7 after 2.4 I simply stopped. It started to add too much. Maybe they should make a Stellaris 2.
Thanks
well atleast its on sale......... for now on steam,
Didn't realise president Zelensky was reviewing video games now
stellaris vs dwarf fortress whats more hard let me see your opinion in comments :))
I’ve never played this…
I’m downloading now…
I’ll let you know how it goes for me, bro…
🖖🏾
I saw your review of this game not too long ago and I bought it on sale on Steam and it would not launch. I did a lot to try and get it up and running and it would not launch. I then subscribed to Game Pass for PC and it was there. Same thing it would not launch. The only thing I can come up with is the devs launcher. It looks like a great game but... well it is what it is.🙏👍
I would both kill and die for paradox. For the empire!
Hold your horses there... but yeah, Paradox games are f****ng diamond
How about an Emperor xeno slayer? 😁 I'd like to play that style
Playing with Xenophobic trait?! It's literally one of the base things you can choose 😂
@@Nyxson awesome
whats Volodymyr Zelenskyy doing making reviews
What is the game on screen from 0:21 to 0:28? It looks pretty good for a behind the cockpit space game! Thank you anyone who can answer!
It's Spacebourne 2
Hi Nick... If I can buy 5 DLC for Stellaris that would x5 or more my gaming experience. What are those? Can you please recommend? ❤
Utopia for the megastructures, Synthetic Dawn for hive minds, Leviathan because the War in Heaven is worth it, Nemesis for crisis ascension.
Good choices, but I would recommend to get good understanding of base game first before thinking about DLC
saw the list of DLC & price & then i looked at my Wallet, made me just look for amother game...
Wrong way to look at it
@@Nyxson yeah that was before i watched the video
Now that's the right way 😂
Never played.. was expecting Starfield to kinda be like this game…I waited on Starfield for people I respect to give their reviews. It’s clearly a total dud. Like it was developed to be crap just to troll the ceo. Like “need a lobotomy” bad…might give this game a try sometime but seems a bit too big to not commit hundreds of hours to tho…
Thank you for this video and explanation to help with the overwhelming reason I have ignored this game although I want it.
Tell me HOW to play! I've got the game but gave up awhile ago
i'm trying to find a good space game that let me control fighters/big ships
Like X4?
Amazing? I think not. It’s boring and full of nonsense. Example: I started a war with a neighbor empire. I beat all their fleets, I took over all their systems and yet I couldn’t win. I had to settle for a tie/truce because the AI would not give up. When doing some research, it turns out I needed to put troops on all planets (even though I glassed the surface of every planet).
The AI cheats for the sake of challenge or “balance”. I even set up a custom game where the AI would be in full disadvantage and still it was similar level and fleet power to me. Not playing it after that.
Dude... you didn't play the game how you were supposed to and got mad because it wasn't how you wanted to?!