The schools opinion of "bullying" in the first story absolutely pissed me off. I'm sorry are people not allowed to choose who they hangout with? Get the student an aide.
Like...a group of people isolating an individual can 100% be bullying. But, the school's application of that concept is absolutely unethical. After all, if the school declining to force OP's child to spend time with the problem child counts as "bullying," then why doesn't that apply to the school declining to force any other child to spend time with that problem child?
The school is closer to bullying OPs daughter by partnering her with the other girl. Sorry schools should be encouraging other students to include the other girl. They should never have included OPs daughter into the other child’s plan without consulting OP. Teachers are responsible for creating an inclusive environment and considering all students well-being. When OP asks for the other child to be moved it tells me she doesn’t trust the school to do its job. OP believes if they stay in the same class the teachers will still pair them. They will likely move OPs daughter because they don’t want the complaints and threats from the other girls parent.
This is more the reason the co-workers daughter doesn’t have friends. Even if you are an inclusive family and embrace your kids friendships even if the child has a disability no parent will encourage a friendship that ultimately hurts your own child. OPs daughter sounds kind and willing to play with any child but to force her to only play with her ignores how children interact.
Yeah, it's called stalking a minor.... My first thought was "oh, really? Huh... Can I have a copy of that?" & Then I would call the cops because a coworker was stalking my kid. At that point even if I get fired I can bring up the stalking during job interviews & unemployment appointments. I would also bring up w HR that the lady get pushing during work for my kid to spend time with hers and I felt threatened over my job security.
I was forced to be an emotional support kid for a girl in elementary and middle school, it seriously messed me up. I think it’s a big part of why I’m having to put a lot of working into learning how to say no to people. After years of teachers guilting me to give up all my time and friends at school just because this one girl was unpopular made me feel as though I’m not allowed to say no to people, this can cause life long trauma that can be extremely hard to reverse Edit: this school sucks, I am so tired of people pretending that not being someone’s friend makes you a bully. Not a single person is owed another persons friendship especially someone who is actively HURTING THEM. Stop forcing kids to be friends with people it is not your kids responsibility to make another kid happy at the sacrifice of their happiness. Does it suck that some kids struggle to make friends? Yes, but no healthy relationship starts with force
As that one kid who grew up friendless, I absolutely agree. I’d rather be alone than with someone who doesn’t want to be my friend, or worse, is pretending to be my friend when they couldn’t give a damn about me or will use me for whatever they’re friends with me for (in my case, it was a lot of bullying and stuff). I don’t feel like this situation would be bad if the girl OP’s daughter is friends was trying to isolate her. I would love to have grown up with a friend like OP’s daughter, and I’d love it even more if that friend wanted to involve me with their friends and actually had other friends besides me. I wouldn’t be nearly as traumatised as I am now if I had a friend like OP’s daughter.
As someone who was used as an emotional support person while growing up i can confirm it screws up a kid. The main person to use me for emotional support was my mother but i had a few kids who would do it too and then wanted nothing to do with me once they got it and then when they wanted emotional support they'd come around again and then ditch me. This happened a lot and often😢
My mom used me like that for herself sometimes but she mainly demanded that I was the emotional punching toy for my twin sister. I had no social life when she was around (mostly all the time) and when I voiced that I was being physically and emotionally abused she told me that I triggered that part of my sister and it was my responsibility to invite her everywhere I went. She called us the "crazy sisters" "explosive duo" etc. when I went NC she begged for help cuz sister turn on her bc there was no one else around
@@meredithgenerationx9629 i'm glad to hear that i'm not alone anymore but as a kid/teenager I felt so alone especially since it resulted in me having extreme difficulty in forming close relationships because i've learned to be suspicious of other's intentions and I try to protect myself from more heartbreak
@@Jo.4421 i had no social life at all since i had no friends my only source of comfort were blankets and teddy bears and my closet (i'd hide in there, so my family wouldn't find me)
19:40 no, OP is saying that if one of them is moved out of the class, it should be the girl rather than his daughter because his daughter has made friends in the class. #SamBadTake
OP wants one moved because she doesn’t trust the teachers/ school will stop pairing them together. It’s likely they know the other parent and know she is a pain to deal with. Her daughter likely had more friends in that class. The school would be stupid to keep the other girl in the class because the fact the school is forcing the friendship tells me no one else will want to work with the other girl. Moving her is a smart move as it gives the other girl a chance be supported to work with all the other students. Moving OPs daughter tells OP and her daughter that the daughter is in the wrong for needing some space and wanting other friends too. All the information I’ve read on inclusive education tells us that the school should be encouraging positive interactions with all the other students in the class. You may not like someone but you have to learn to work with people you don’t like or are different to you. Moving OPs daughter
My son was treated the same way the child in the first story was. It took so much time away from his school work. He was always taking care of this other child at school. He ended up developing more problems of his own and was falling behind. It was so bad the teachers made my 5 year old son take this child to the restroom 8 times and day and miss all recess to sit with him everyday at lunch. My son even had to go to the cafeteria and get this child's food for him, then take his tray back. It felt like my son was staff not a child trying to learn. We went back and forth with the school about this for years. They kept telling me they were working on it, understaffed, it would stop, my son volunteered. My son could not stand this kid prior to having the responsibilities of him. Just like the child in the story, he would scream, bite , spit, kick, and punch people. The teachers couldn't handle him so my 5 year old had to. Eventually, I quit my job and pulled him out and now homeschool him so he has a chance to learn something. Absolutely ridiculous
@@nyaradhiambo it really was. It also doesn't help when people call you abusive for homeschooling when you don't have a choice. I ran into the same problems with the school the lady in the story did. The difference is they finally got an aid, ours never did. They just told us to suck it up, helping didn't hurt him, he should be glad to do it. After I pulled him out of public school the kid moved.
When my daughter was 3 and in kindergarten (in France and she did not speak French yet), she was bitten and cried on a daily basis and the teacher did not tell me about it!! I only found out as we moved after one month and the teacher told me about it. I felt angry with the teacher. I understood the boy that bit her was in love with her and tried to communicate, but my daughter did not understand what he was saying and to get her attention he bit her, but it is the teacher's responsibility to intervene and protect the child that is being attacked. I am glad we moved!!
Thank goodness you moved. Thats wild because how long did it take her to notice that little boy was biting your daughter? The way I would have lost my shit to find this out after the fact is wild. My daughter is a chatter box and I feel like she would have told me something about it. The hard part with her is she’s also creative and some of her memories are also off tv shows and since she’s also 3 years old the story’s sometimes sound like 2-3 different storylines smashed together lol
@@Raraking4796 Ahw your daughter sounds sweet :) My daughter hardly ever complains, so I was not aware. I was very happy that her next school was the opposite. There, two boys became her friends and they were called the three musketeers as they were always together and "up to mischief" according to the teacher. She was told off for kissing on the mouth with one of the boys, but as we never kiss her on the mouth, that came from the three year old boy... She was also punished for singing in class everyday during work period LOL. It must be hard for the teacher if a child does not speak their language, but that is exactly why I did make her go to school at the age of 3, so she WOULD understand french by the time it really mattered. About the biting boy, we returned to the school one last time, one month after we left, to say goodbye to her former class and collect the class picture and the biting boy came up to her and gently stroked her cheek. I already suspected he liked her blond hair and blue eyes, but just did not know how to communicate with her. I blame the teacher tbh.
That's terrible. I work with dementia patients and occasionally get hit, choked, and even sexually harassed by men who have no idea what they're doing. It's hard enough being injured at work occasionally as an adult who knows this is going to be part of the job. No child should have to go through that.
She watching op's house and other people. She needs to get proof as text, email, or recordings so she can take this to the police. Which can be used as leverage in school, work, and more. The mother has no right in wanting to use op's kid (a total stranger) as an emotional support animal. She can get other cartakers/babysitters to watch the kid or teach her kid to play nice so she can have more friends.
The school's negligence of providing proper care for the child of the neighbor is mind-boggling. The audacity of them to expect another child to provide care because they are too lazy or unqualified to do so is ridiculous.
john's in the right over not wanting to be paid to be a kid's friend. that's pretty gross and disingenuous, especially with how you guys were talking it about specifically about the money, not about how the other kid might feel - like imagine if you had no friends, someone suddenly started being nice and hanging out with you, and then you find out they're only around you bc you're making a profit off of the "friendship"? really rubbed me the wrong way ngl
So oddly enough I’m a support staff for adults with disabilities. I do it as a job. The position is similar to a professional friend but I also play a lot of other roles in their lives. You build a genuine connection and stuff like that normally over time and some people click better than others. However I’m an adult and the people I support are specifically signed up and connected and contracted with the company I work for. In my department they are all high functioning and some of them live in their own apartments. I think it would be a little bit trickier when it comes to their ages because kids and adults can have fun and play but it’s not the same as 2 kids playing together. I have a 3 year old and she loves me. Almost all the time we are together she wants me to play with her BUT when other kids are around even if they are double her age (normally they are her cousins or cousin friends) it’s like Moms ass doesn’t even exist. I mean she the shiest person when it comes to adults chatting with her but any kid she meets she considers her friend. Like 4 months ago she met a little girl in a free myers and she still talks about her lol
7:22 she probably has not say anything because she has been conditioned and guilt tripped into being her caregiver and not complain. But just the fact that she is hurting her and keeping her from socializing with other kids are enough reasons
Haha, maybe if OP’s daughter started biting back, the other girl would think twice about wanting to be friends with her! They can dish it out, but when it comes to reaping the consequences they back down. The girl needs a taste of what she has been putting others through. 🤷🏼♀️
Story 1: they made mention that any time their daughter would show attention to someone else the other little girl would get upset or something along those lines. So basically she was forced to partner up with her, then the girl would throw a hissy fit if ops daughter showed attention to other friends therefore isolating her. The school has a responsibility to get the other girl an aide and not depend on another student to "fill in" or whatever their thought process was in lieu of. I'm wondering if the school could get in trouble for not having sufficient faculty for students that's necessary. Op has to worry about their own daughter. Yeah it's a kid and you may feel bad, but that's not ops daughters responsibility nor is she obligated to help. All of the adults pairing them together are failing ops daughter and not wanting to deal with the other girls "issues." That mom is insane for making a log. If your kid is physically hurting mine in any way and you don't stop it or address it and take measures to stop it then play dates and group projects need to end. Your kids issues aren't someone else's problem, and I'd you allow your KID to become an issue to someone else's kid, don't be surprised that they completely cut them off. Nobody is doing any of these girls any favors. Op is definitely in the right for wanting separation for their daughter. It's sad. But at the end of the day you've gotta protect yours.
It’s not that the school doesn’t “want” to hire someone to help the child, they just “can’t” hire someone to help. The classroom teacher is at the end of her rope and needs any help they can get. It just sucks for OPs kid.
The amount of "can't" often also depends on what the current situation looks like. And the current situation was that they were able to offload the problem onto OPs daughter and so they did. If that option is taken away from them solutions that they weren't considering before will suddenly become feasible ...
47:46: "There is no update" oh, there is: "Update: Sorry I didn't update this last night. Forgot there were basketball games on and fell asleep watching. I went out for drinks with my daughter. It was awkward at first. We just talked about work and her schooling for a while. It felt nice to just talk about normal things for a bit. At some point she just asked me if I was proud of her. I almost broke down when she asked that. I said yes I am proud of her. Though I'm not proud of the mistake that you made. I talked a bit about why what she did made me so upset, but that nothing she could ever do would make me love her less. She told me more about how she got involved with the neighbor. I won't share too much. It's nothing terrible like many of you are assuming. They knew each other as they had her babysit their baby over the last year. One night she was out with friends and ran into the husband at the bar. That's when things progressed and the affair started. During this same time she was going through a breakup that was rough. I knew she was going through that, but didn't realize how bad it was. I told her that she is an adult and responsible for her own actions. That I don't want her in my house doing things like this. We talked about telling the wife. My daughter is scared to tell her. She isn't sure how the husband will react once the affair is out. I'm going to go with her tomorrow while the husband is at work and tell her together. My daughter also wants to move out. She said it's something she had been thinking about before. And now she said it would be awkward with this being in the open. She started to cry about how she didn't realize the damage she was doing. Knowing that she is the other woman and helped to break or at least hurt this marriage. I talked about her mom and her past and what that was done to her. That's about it. We cried together. Had tough discussions. Tomorrow we will let the wife know and I'll help my daughter move to my sister's place for a while. I told her things will probably get worse before they get better."
My son is in a primary school its preschool to seconds grade. This other parent is acting friggin crazy over something so small for their age. Theres other kids i imagine but its not fair for her child to take the ass end of everything cuz she will.
I am a parent of a special needs child. When I found out the school was trying to partner up another child as done with this situation, I was not happy and quickly put a stop to it. It isn't fair to force anyone together, let alone laying so much responsibility on a child. That is not encouragement for anyone, period. I told the school that it is the school's responsibility to be the providing the supports my child needs, not pawn it off on another child. If they didn't have the resources for that, it was my job to help them get it. Little did I know then, but a few years down the road, I am doing exactly that for the district. I am now the districta volunteer lobbyist. I am proud to say I helped make sure that schools and SpEd are fully funded for the first time in 4 decades.
16:03 My dad is a teacher and he tells his students“not everyone has to like you“. To force kids that do not get along to hang out is ridiculous. Also, isn’t it typical for schools to say you’re a bully for not wanting to hang out with this kid meanwhile, that kid is the actual bully. I would go higher in the ranks if they’re gonna be that dense and continue letting my child be abused. No child should take the responsibility of an adult.
Ok I have a son that has autism. He’s going to be 19 this year and his whole life I have never made anyone play with him. Some kids have been mean to him and others have been very understanding and nice. Bottom line, he’s my kid and my responsibility. This woman needs to advocate for her kid in the proper way and stop trying to pawn her off on everyone else.
I was raising my younger siblings by the time I was eight. I made sure they had cooked meals, made sure they went to bed and got them up for school...everything. it took away my childhood and i was never really allowed to be a kid. This poor girl has no reason to be forced to take care of another child because no one else wants to. I am so sorry for this girl
On the first story it is a toxic an unhealthy situation to put so much responsibility on a child. Especially when the other has violent tendencies. As a parent, you have to think of your child first. Op is NOT the asshole. The other parent should have their kid in therapies outside of school to teach her healthy methods on how to control her anger.
That poor kid having to be the emotional support for that one child. That is SO much stress!! And stress can do crazy things to your body, especially weaken any immune system n possibly make the child sick and/or make the child not want to go to schooL.. not to mention any mental stress on the child being essentially A-salted with the thrown objects and biting... and teachers keep making her do things with the other child through it?!?! Whose bullying who? Wtf!?!? OP is NTA.
For the first story I can completely understand not wanting to subject her daughter to all of that stress with the disabled girl but it’s completely uncompassionate to want to uproot the developmentally disabled girl and make her be the one to change classes. It’s already going to be a lot for her to accept loosing a friend that she’s so familiar with. Let her at least have the teacher and routine that she’s familiar with so the loss isn’t as bad. A neurotypical person is going to have a way easier time dealing with that big change than the disabled girl.
God the first story reminds me of when my teachers put me in charge of a girl who was five years older than i was in second grade and who had down symdone. She was also bigger than the rest of us. Op needs to get this fixed before it comes hell for their child. And that mom needs some serious mental help and a huge talking to by the police for stalking, also have HR have notes on this. For example like my story, i was in second grade in 2001, school was a tiny bit stressful but normal. One day a week after school started, a new girl was transfeered to my school and class, let's call her Nikki (i have autism also too nice for my own good). First two and a half months it was fine, she didnt cause trouble and was very nice. What i didnt know was that she was kicked out of two schools before coming here for violent behavior. Since it was early 2000s, you didnt see people with down sydome who were violent, even my mom who was teaching at a different school said it wasnt very common and she had been teacher for a few years. Midway close to the third month so want to say mid october, i was waiting for her by the classroom door we had just finished but we were running late to get back to class. And it was litterly another room away but i got told by another teacher to get to class now or ill get in trouble. So i went back to my class. Nikki comes into the classroom five minutes later with an expression of extreme anger which was surprising since she hadn't acted like that before and it was like a 180. She kept backing me into a corner then grabbed a metal tin trash can and started beating me in class with it in front of the teacher and classmates, once the teacher stopped her. I was made to aplogize her for not being a good support buddy. After that Nikki would basically become a nightmare, beating a serverly handicap kid who wore braces on his leg, threaten to bring a knife and slit mine or someone elses thoarts at recess, say that she will beat me to death and i should be prepare to die, trying to strangle kids. The school refused to do anything about it, so she torture me for three years and i was afarid everyday and dreading going to school. They finally moved her to a different class when my mom threaten to get lawyers involved and gave her a proper aid after she tried to rip my pants off on the school bus and the bus driver has had enough of her, told the principal that he was banning Nikki from riding his bus so she better find a different service to bring that girl to school. She also bit people and spit in their faces. It was insane, but she stayed in the same school with us until 8th grade when Nikki threaten to shoot a football player in the face then she was removed. I thought was finally free from her. But 9th grade first day of school, im already nervous as hell, i walk into my 2nd class of the day. Guess who was there, no other than Nikki and she was happy to see me. She yelled my name and gave me a big bear hug, in my head i was screaming bloody terror and all the stuff she did in the past came rushing back. Nikki had no memory of being a nightmare to me and thought we were buddy buddys. When i got home, i just went in my room into my closet to cry quietly so my family didnt hear. Understand Nikki wasnt the only bully i had, but it was like she started the chain effect that caused me to be bully badly by others for the rest of my school years. Took alot of time to get to a point where if i had to talk about nikki that im not scared or trembling on it.
That first story brings back bad memories of one of my childhood summer that I spent some time with the new neighbor's child. First couple times, it was fine playing with her but then the kid showed me her new playing wooden cabin/mini house that she could lock from the outside. She had lured me inside (which was pretty easy because i'd never seen a mini house and I guess it's something many little girls would dream to have) and then she locked me in for a good 30min. She stayed silent, pretended to go away then would bang on the walls and laugh. I would ask her to let me out but she wouldn't. She said if I wanted to get out, I'd have to give her one of my earrings (they were fake earrings, piercing style). I said I would give her one and she let me out. Ended up having to give her the earring and then I went home in tears. My mom was LIVID when I told her what happened. I stayed with my big brother while she went to the neighbor's and asked for the earring back. She told them to watch and discipline their child and told them that their child wasn't allowed near me ever again.
S1 so the girl has no other friends and OPs daughter is the well behaved girl in class and is now being forced to be emotional support for the other girl. It’s almost like being punished for being agreeable.
Story one info from someone from the UK for clarification SEN stands for special educational needs we also have SEND which is special educational needs disabilities. We have nursery 0-4 years old, primary school 4-11 years old, high school 11-16 years old then the option of college or 6 form (another type of college) university or go straight in to employment. Solicitor is a lawyer.
Sam clearly have NEVER been Bitten by another kid.. Sam, it hurts like HELL. So no thanks to be botten once a week if it would be the same Ingot bitten by a class "mate" when I was 6-7 y/o. So F no!
It's 100% the school districts fault for lack of funding for the child. An assistant needs to be hired yesterday. Most of the time assistants are not paid enough so the positions are not attractive
My dudes. Dad knows about what’s been going on at the school because the daughter has been telling them. And obviously she’s expressed it in a negative way and not just “oh me and other girl paired up on project today.” That’s how you know how the little girl feels about this whole thing.
you guuuuys!!!!! I love this show and i get that it was just a bit about a sensitive topic, however watching you bully John broke my heart a little. The dude has integrity.
It’s not extreme to kick the daughter out because it is 100% her choice. All she has to do is admit she slept with a married man and she can stay it’s not like OP was just kicking her out for the being a mistress just if she isn’t willing to tell the wife
I was 14 when I was finally diagnosed with that being said as a young child I knew I was very different than my other friends, adults around me called me rambunctious so I sought out other rambunctious kids I know my energy was a lot to handle my talking too fast or too much was annoying so instead of being told to shut up all the time I found other rambunctious kids to play with which were typically male kids with the level of chaotic energy I had. Ended up working out in my favor big time when I got to jr high and no it wasn’t for a dating aspect
That psycho tracking who entered OP's home and the amout of times OP said no to her having her child play with the other kid is so creepy. Way to isolate your kid
The last story had me thinking. The daughter is 21, and the married neighbor slept with her. I’m curious how long they have lived next to them. It’s sounds creepy in all honesty
Story one: op definitely not the ah. I worked with special needs kids. It’s a lot of work and it shouldn’t be put on children. The school i worked at did have the kids help with the student body to help them learn social skills outside of the classroom. The mom can’t bring the job into it since this isn’t a work issue. This is a personal issue but since she is threatening OPs job since she’s in a higher position OP can go to HR. Op should also make a police report for harassment against the coworkers. The school can’t go against the wishes of the parents if they’re asking to resolve an issue with their child. Especially since the stress could be contributing to the kid getting sick (stress lowers immune response). They can even take legal action against the school for using their child as unpaid child labor against the parents wishes.
9:00 the lesson the child should learn from this is that sometimes people only want to maintain a friendship so they can use you as a punching bag. Even if the child hasn’t explicitly said I can’t do this anymore she deserves to be taught that in a world full of these people it’s not her responsibility to care for or change those in her life who are that way.
With the 1st story it honestly sounds like Mom is using her daughter’s developmental issues as an excuse for poor parenting. Just because your child is special doesn’t mean you let them get away with anything. She’s still a child and while teaching her and parenting may require a different plan of action it’s neglectful and abusive to tech this girl nothing and only seek to pacify her rather than guide her into becoming the best version of herself
3:38 I don’t think it’s that, it seems like OPs daughter is her person and having them be friends makes the teachers job easier because when OPs daughter doesn’t pay attention to her she acts out.
As a mum of a special needs child that likes to throw hands, that mother is in the wrong completely. I would never do that to another mother/child, I know the risks and when a child does play with him I am highlyy appreciate them and thank them but that doesn't make me entitled to that child and their time and patience.
I wonder how long they have known the neighbors and how long she has been babysitting for them because it it very possible there could have been some grooming, but there’s just not enough information
It's not the kid responsability!!! Wtf now even paying them or wathever! It's a kid!! And force to take care of another kid!!! It's not right! Where are the boundaries? She needs help
Story one: How about encouraging the whole class to be friends with the girl with dev. issues and not put it all on OP's daughter? But also did OP talk to their daughter about this? Why do ppl need to make such drama out of everything? As parents get together with the girls and discuss and find a solution, so that the girl with issues isn't entirely isolated and the other girl isn't obligated to be friends only with her. Try to find middle ground, lean something along the way and be kind at the same time. Why is this so difficult?
The school can't force anyone to be friends with anyone, especially someone who has demonstrated being violent with those who are willing to befriend her. They need to hire support, and her mom needs to take her to meet other people she can relate to.
Ooof the first story…😬 the biting…that’s never okay. The fact that the child isn’t able to build or maintain *any other friendships* then it’s time for her parents to intervene and find supports for their kid. The supports are not forcing other people, with no training or credentials, even expecting a child to act as the para/support for child who’s needing more supports than she’s currently receiving. It is setting her up for failure to not pursue having those in place, and if the parent is in a higher position of power…those jobs come with benefits, benefits that could help to cover the costs of said supports. To refuse to do so…is that parent setting their child up for failure. 😢 and it’s not fair to that kid, she didn’t ask to be, and she may not understand that her behaviors are unacceptable or why. She’ll never be able to grow outta those behaviors or replace them with better skill sets if her parents, her biggest advocates, don’t push to advocate for her to have access to those skill sets.
The dad is, imo, not the a-hole for giving his daughter that ultimatum. That ultimatum is reasonable. _HOWEVER_ I do think it's an a-hole move to make that decision all by him self, tell the daughter about it without having had as much as a conversation with his wife about it??? He alone does not get to make decisions about whether their daughter should get kicked out of her family house.
I wonder if it’s not the other girls development delay that prevents her from having friends but the parent. If this lady makes threats and stalks OP you bet she has done it to others who show any attention to the daughter. It sucks for OPs daughter if she was truely a friend to the girl. Why are the teachers and mum not supporting other friendships as well. The co worker should have spoken to OP more about this and checked to see if they were okay with all the extra reliance on OPs daughter. All siblings and young caregivers need time away and it’s not a negative thing. OPs daughter is a friend not a support worker to the co-workers daughter to force that on OPs daughter is not fair.
The parents with the challenged daughter should have fought for their kid to have proper help in school and outside of school. And nit leave it on the shoulders of another kid and family. They should have reached out to the friendly kid and her parents and asked if it was going well and thanked them for help. And have options for when it becomes too much for them. No they winged it and let it blowup
9:00 the person making a list is being a A hole for keeping a log but I feel bad for them too and I especially feel bad for the kids. I hope someone has referred them to developmental disability services. If you live in the united states than they should have option especially if you live in the specific states like Oregon. It’s a very state that provides help for children and adults with a wide variety of medical and developmental disabilities. Please the earlier the inventions the better the outcomes will be for that child. I’m a support staff for adults with disabilities in Oregon.
The schools opinion of "bullying" in the first story absolutely pissed me off. I'm sorry are people not allowed to choose who they hangout with? Get the student an aide.
They should never have a gap for any reason. It’s ridiculous, if they can’t take proper care of the child she shouldn’t be at that school.
Like...a group of people isolating an individual can 100% be bullying. But, the school's application of that concept is absolutely unethical. After all, if the school declining to force OP's child to spend time with the problem child counts as "bullying," then why doesn't that apply to the school declining to force any other child to spend time with that problem child?
The school is closer to bullying OPs daughter by partnering her with the other girl. Sorry schools should be encouraging other students to include the other girl. They should never have included OPs daughter into the other child’s plan without consulting OP. Teachers are responsible for creating an inclusive environment and considering all students well-being.
When OP asks for the other child to be moved it tells me she doesn’t trust the school to do its job. OP believes if they stay in the same class the teachers will still pair them. They will likely move OPs daughter because they don’t want the complaints and threats from the other girls parent.
The child’s mother was crazy for keeping a log of OP’s excuses and keeping track of which girls entered the house
Yeah that's unhinged
At that point, get the hint
This is more the reason the co-workers daughter doesn’t have friends. Even if you are an inclusive family and embrace your kids friendships even if the child has a disability no parent will encourage a friendship that ultimately hurts your own child. OPs daughter sounds kind and willing to play with any child but to force her to only play with her ignores how children interact.
Yeah, it's called stalking a minor.... My first thought was "oh, really? Huh... Can I have a copy of that?" & Then I would call the cops because a coworker was stalking my kid. At that point even if I get fired I can bring up the stalking during job interviews & unemployment appointments. I would also bring up w HR that the lady get pushing during work for my kid to spend time with hers and I felt threatened over my job security.
I was forced to be an emotional support kid for a girl in elementary and middle school, it seriously messed me up. I think it’s a big part of why I’m having to put a lot of working into learning how to say no to people. After years of teachers guilting me to give up all my time and friends at school just because this one girl was unpopular made me feel as though I’m not allowed to say no to people, this can cause life long trauma that can be extremely hard to reverse
Edit: this school sucks, I am so tired of people pretending that not being someone’s friend makes you a bully. Not a single person is owed another persons friendship especially someone who is actively HURTING THEM. Stop forcing kids to be friends with people it is not your kids responsibility to make another kid happy at the sacrifice of their happiness. Does it suck that some kids struggle to make friends? Yes, but no healthy relationship starts with force
As that one kid who grew up friendless,
I absolutely agree. I’d rather be alone than with someone who doesn’t want to be my friend, or worse, is pretending to be my friend when they couldn’t give a damn about me or will use me for whatever they’re friends with me for (in my case, it was a lot of bullying and stuff).
I don’t feel like this situation would be bad if the girl OP’s daughter is friends was trying to isolate her. I would love to have grown up with a friend like OP’s daughter, and I’d love it even more if that friend wanted to involve me with their friends and actually had other friends besides me. I wouldn’t be nearly as traumatised as I am now if I had a friend like OP’s daughter.
I'm so sorry this happened to you. My son went through it to. It was awful
It's so wrong, and toxic to put so much responsibility on someone so young.
As someone who was used as an emotional support person while growing up i can confirm it screws up a kid. The main person to use me for emotional support was my mother but i had a few kids who would do it too and then wanted nothing to do with me once they got it and then when they wanted emotional support they'd come around again and then ditch me. This happened a lot and often😢
My mom did the same to me, you are not alone
My mom used me like that for herself sometimes but she mainly demanded that I was the emotional punching toy for my twin sister. I had no social life when she was around (mostly all the time) and when I voiced that I was being physically and emotionally abused she told me that I triggered that part of my sister and it was my responsibility to invite her everywhere I went. She called us the "crazy sisters" "explosive duo" etc. when I went NC she begged for help cuz sister turn on her bc there was no one else around
@@meredithgenerationx9629 i'm glad to hear that i'm not alone anymore but as a kid/teenager I felt so alone especially since it resulted in me having extreme difficulty in forming close relationships because i've learned to be suspicious of other's intentions and I try to protect myself from more heartbreak
@@Jo.4421 i had no social life at all since i had no friends my only source of comfort were blankets and teddy bears and my closet (i'd hide in there, so my family wouldn't find me)
Me too, it was very confuse what was happening (really toxic family) I had to study psychology to understand and try to heal
19:40 no, OP is saying that if one of them is moved out of the class, it should be the girl rather than his daughter because his daughter has made friends in the class. #SamBadTake
OP wants one moved because she doesn’t trust the teachers/ school will stop pairing them together. It’s likely they know the other parent and know she is a pain to deal with. Her daughter likely had more friends in that class. The school would be stupid to keep the other girl in the class because the fact the school is forcing the friendship tells me no one else will want to work with the other girl. Moving her is a smart move as it gives the other girl a chance be supported to work with all the other students. Moving OPs daughter tells OP and her daughter that the daughter is in the wrong for needing some space and wanting other friends too.
All the information I’ve read on inclusive education tells us that the school should be encouraging positive interactions with all the other students in the class. You may not like someone but you have to learn to work with people you don’t like or are different to you. Moving OPs daughter
My son was treated the same way the child in the first story was. It took so much time away from his school work. He was always taking care of this other child at school. He ended up developing more problems of his own and was falling behind. It was so bad the teachers made my 5 year old son take this child to the restroom 8 times and day and miss all recess to sit with him everyday at lunch. My son even had to go to the cafeteria and get this child's food for him, then take his tray back. It felt like my son was staff not a child trying to learn. We went back and forth with the school about this for years. They kept telling me they were working on it, understaffed, it would stop, my son volunteered. My son could not stand this kid prior to having the responsibilities of him. Just like the child in the story, he would scream, bite , spit, kick, and punch people. The teachers couldn't handle him so my 5 year old had to. Eventually, I quit my job and pulled him out and now homeschool him so he has a chance to learn something. Absolutely ridiculous
That's horrible!
Isn't that child labour and servitude
So infuriating
@@nyaradhiambo it really was. It also doesn't help when people call you abusive for homeschooling when you don't have a choice. I ran into the same problems with the school the lady in the story did. The difference is they finally got an aid, ours never did. They just told us to suck it up, helping didn't hurt him, he should be glad to do it. After I pulled him out of public school the kid moved.
When my daughter was 3 and in kindergarten (in France and she did not speak French yet), she was bitten and cried on a daily basis and the teacher did not tell me about it!! I only found out as we moved after one month and the teacher told me about it. I felt angry with the teacher. I understood the boy that bit her was in love with her and tried to communicate, but my daughter did not understand what he was saying and to get her attention he bit her, but it is the teacher's responsibility to intervene and protect the child that is being attacked. I am glad we moved!!
Thank goodness you moved. Thats wild because how long did it take her to notice that little boy was biting your daughter?
The way I would have lost my shit to find this out after the fact is wild. My daughter is a chatter box and I feel like she would have told me something about it. The hard part with her is she’s also creative and some of her memories are also off tv shows and since she’s also 3 years old the story’s sometimes sound like 2-3 different storylines smashed together lol
@@Raraking4796 Ahw your daughter sounds sweet :) My daughter hardly ever complains, so I was not aware. I was very happy that her next school was the opposite. There, two boys became her friends and they were called the three musketeers as they were always together and "up to mischief" according to the teacher. She was told off for kissing on the mouth with one of the boys, but as we never kiss her on the mouth, that came from the three year old boy... She was also punished for singing in class everyday during work period LOL. It must be hard for the teacher if a child does not speak their language, but that is exactly why I did make her go to school at the age of 3, so she WOULD understand french by the time it really mattered. About the biting boy, we returned to the school one last time, one month after we left, to say goodbye to her former class and collect the class picture and the biting boy came up to her and gently stroked her cheek. I already suspected he liked her blond hair and blue eyes, but just did not know how to communicate with her. I blame the teacher tbh.
That's terrible. I work with dementia patients and occasionally get hit, choked, and even sexually harassed by men who have no idea what they're doing. It's hard enough being injured at work occasionally as an adult who knows this is going to be part of the job. No child should have to go through that.
She watching op's house and other people. She needs to get proof as text, email, or recordings so she can take this to the police. Which can be used as leverage in school, work, and more. The mother has no right in wanting to use op's kid (a total stranger) as an emotional support animal. She can get other cartakers/babysitters to watch the kid or teach her kid to play nice so she can have more friends.
The school's negligence of providing proper care for the child of the neighbor is mind-boggling. The audacity of them to expect another child to provide care because they are too lazy or unqualified to do so is ridiculous.
john's in the right over not wanting to be paid to be a kid's friend. that's pretty gross and disingenuous, especially with how you guys were talking it about specifically about the money, not about how the other kid might feel - like imagine if you had no friends, someone suddenly started being nice and hanging out with you, and then you find out they're only around you bc you're making a profit off of the "friendship"? really rubbed me the wrong way ngl
I think it's just a bit.
Mean Girls 2
So oddly enough I’m a support staff for adults with disabilities. I do it as a job. The position is similar to a professional friend but I also play a lot of other roles in their lives. You build a genuine connection and stuff like that normally over time and some people click better than others. However I’m an adult and the people I support are specifically signed up and connected and contracted with the company I work for. In my department they are all high functioning and some of them live in their own apartments. I think it would be a little bit trickier when it comes to their ages because kids and adults can have fun and play but it’s not the same as 2 kids playing together. I have a 3 year old and she loves me. Almost all the time we are together she wants me to play with her BUT when other kids are around even if they are double her age (normally they are her cousins or cousin friends) it’s like Moms ass doesn’t even exist. I mean she the shiest person when it comes to adults chatting with her but any kid she meets she considers her friend.
Like 4 months ago she met a little girl in a free myers and she still talks about her lol
7:22 she probably has not say anything because she has been conditioned and guilt tripped into being her caregiver and not complain. But just the fact that she is hurting her and keeping her from socializing with other kids are enough reasons
"The joke won't get old unlike you" is so good & so mean.. 😅
Haha, maybe if OP’s daughter started biting back, the other girl would think twice about wanting to be friends with her! They can dish it out, but when it comes to reaping the consequences they back down. The girl needs a taste of what she has been putting others through. 🤷🏼♀️
And then ops daughter would get in trouble
Story 1: they made mention that any time their daughter would show attention to someone else the other little girl would get upset or something along those lines. So basically she was forced to partner up with her, then the girl would throw a hissy fit if ops daughter showed attention to other friends therefore isolating her. The school has a responsibility to get the other girl an aide and not depend on another student to "fill in" or whatever their thought process was in lieu of. I'm wondering if the school could get in trouble for not having sufficient faculty for students that's necessary. Op has to worry about their own daughter. Yeah it's a kid and you may feel bad, but that's not ops daughters responsibility nor is she obligated to help. All of the adults pairing them together are failing ops daughter and not wanting to deal with the other girls "issues." That mom is insane for making a log. If your kid is physically hurting mine in any way and you don't stop it or address it and take measures to stop it then play dates and group projects need to end. Your kids issues aren't someone else's problem, and I'd you allow your KID to become an issue to someone else's kid, don't be surprised that they completely cut them off. Nobody is doing any of these girls any favors. Op is definitely in the right for wanting separation for their daughter. It's sad. But at the end of the day you've gotta protect yours.
And also this is a small detail ops daughter literally would get hit and hurt for taking her attention away from the co workers daughter
It’s not that the school doesn’t “want” to hire someone to help the child, they just “can’t” hire someone to help. The classroom teacher is at the end of her rope and needs any help they can get. It just sucks for OPs kid.
The amount of "can't" often also depends on what the current situation looks like. And the current situation was that they were able to offload the problem onto OPs daughter and so they did.
If that option is taken away from them solutions that they weren't considering before will suddenly become feasible ...
47:46: "There is no update" oh, there is:
"Update: Sorry I didn't update this last night. Forgot there were basketball games on and fell asleep watching. I went out for drinks with my daughter. It was awkward at first. We just talked about work and her schooling for a while. It felt nice to just talk about normal things for a bit. At some point she just asked me if I was proud of her. I almost broke down when she asked that. I said yes I am proud of her. Though I'm not proud of the mistake that you made. I talked a bit about why what she did made me so upset, but that nothing she could ever do would make me love her less.
She told me more about how she got involved with the neighbor. I won't share too much. It's nothing terrible like many of you are assuming. They knew each other as they had her babysit their baby over the last year. One night she was out with friends and ran into the husband at the bar. That's when things progressed and the affair started. During this same time she was going through a breakup that was rough. I knew she was going through that, but didn't realize how bad it was.
I told her that she is an adult and responsible for her own actions. That I don't want her in my house doing things like this.
We talked about telling the wife. My daughter is scared to tell her. She isn't sure how the husband will react once the affair is out. I'm going to go with her tomorrow while the husband is at work and tell her together.
My daughter also wants to move out. She said it's something she had been thinking about before. And now she said it would be awkward with this being in the open. She started to cry about how she didn't realize the damage she was doing. Knowing that she is the other woman and helped to break or at least hurt this marriage. I talked about her mom and her past and what that was done to her.
That's about it. We cried together. Had tough discussions. Tomorrow we will let the wife know and I'll help my daughter move to my sister's place for a while. I told her things will probably get worse before they get better."
Saving lives omg
Thank youuuuu... I love the heroes that find the missing updates ❤
My son is in a primary school its preschool to seconds grade. This other parent is acting friggin crazy over something so small for their age. Theres other kids i imagine but its not fair for her child to take the ass end of everything cuz she will.
You guys are arguing over a moot point. Someone of that age cannot enter into a contract free John.
The parents of the child can enter their child into that kind of contract though
@@emilyjohn2034 yes valid point
I am a parent of a special needs child. When I found out the school was trying to partner up another child as done with this situation, I was not happy and quickly put a stop to it. It isn't fair to force anyone together, let alone laying so much responsibility on a child. That is not encouragement for anyone, period. I told the school that it is the school's responsibility to be the providing the supports my child needs, not pawn it off on another child. If they didn't have the resources for that, it was my job to help them get it. Little did I know then, but a few years down the road, I am doing exactly that for the district. I am now the districta volunteer lobbyist. I am proud to say I helped make sure that schools and SpEd are fully funded for the first time in 4 decades.
Dogs howling from the octaves thar Sam's voice is hitting during that "apology" gaslamping. 😂😂😂😂
16:03 My dad is a teacher and he tells his students“not everyone has to like you“.
To force kids that do not get along to hang out is ridiculous.
Also, isn’t it typical for schools to say you’re a bully for not wanting to hang out with this kid meanwhile, that kid is the actual bully.
I would go higher in the ranks if they’re gonna be that dense and continue letting my child be abused.
No child should take the responsibility of an adult.
Ok I have a son that has autism. He’s going to be 19 this year and his whole life I have never made anyone play with him. Some kids have been mean to him and others have been very understanding and nice. Bottom line, he’s my kid and my responsibility. This woman needs to advocate for her kid in the proper way and stop trying to pawn her off on everyone else.
42:01 id be suspicious of my wife and questioning how my daughter thought this behavior was appropriate
After that candy debacle, I don’t even remember what Sam was supposed to be apologizing about 😂
That was Sam's real plan - making everyone forget his original slight
@@zoeb3573 well it worked because I don’t even remember this comment anymore or what it’s referencing 🤣😂
@@zoeb3573 well it worked because I don’t even remember this comment anymore or what it’s referencing 🤣😂
I was raising my younger siblings by the time I was eight. I made sure they had cooked meals, made sure they went to bed and got them up for school...everything. it took away my childhood and i was never really allowed to be a kid. This poor girl has no reason to be forced to take care of another child because no one else wants to. I am so sorry for this girl
"how challenged is this daughter?" I lost it. hahaha
S2: the daughter needs to learn consequences. Despicable behavior.
The great candy war 😂
1st story at the pause: I agree the neighbor is the AH and to talk to the daughter as well as take up the threat with HR.
In regards to sleeping with the neighbor story. Why not just move out... you'll just move next door 😂
21:06 “I am being so gaslamped right now” 😂
If sam was a kid now, he’d love Mr. Beast
On the first story it is a toxic an unhealthy situation to put so much responsibility on a child. Especially when the other has violent tendencies. As a parent, you have to think of your child first. Op is NOT the asshole. The other parent should have their kid in therapies outside of school to teach her healthy methods on how to control her anger.
That poor kid having to be the emotional support for that one child. That is SO much stress!! And stress can do crazy things to your body, especially weaken any immune system n possibly make the child sick and/or make the child not want to go to schooL.. not to mention any mental stress on the child being essentially A-salted with the thrown objects and biting... and teachers keep making her do things with the other child through it?!?! Whose bullying who? Wtf!?!? OP is NTA.
Additional context for this story: primary school in the UK spans from 5 to 11 years old.
Which story ? Sorry I’m not far in the video yet
For the first story I can completely understand not wanting to subject her daughter to all of that stress with the disabled girl but it’s completely uncompassionate to want to uproot the developmentally disabled girl and make her be the one to change classes. It’s already going to be a lot for her to accept loosing a friend that she’s so familiar with. Let her at least have the teacher and routine that she’s familiar with so the loss isn’t as bad. A neurotypical person is going to have a way easier time dealing with that big change than the disabled girl.
Sam and Riley are so mean to John 😂 Poor John
God the first story reminds me of when my teachers put me in charge of a girl who was five years older than i was in second grade and who had down symdone. She was also bigger than the rest of us.
Op needs to get this fixed before it comes hell for their child. And that mom needs some serious mental help and a huge talking to by the police for stalking, also have HR have notes on this.
For example like my story, i was in second grade in 2001, school was a tiny bit stressful but normal. One day a week after school started, a new girl was transfeered to my school and class, let's call her Nikki (i have autism also too nice for my own good). First two and a half months it was fine, she didnt cause trouble and was very nice. What i didnt know was that she was kicked out of two schools before coming here for violent behavior. Since it was early 2000s, you didnt see people with down sydome who were violent, even my mom who was teaching at a different school said it wasnt very common and she had been teacher for a few years. Midway close to the third month so want to say mid october, i was waiting for her by the classroom door we had just finished but we were running late to get back to class. And it was litterly another room away but i got told by another teacher to get to class now or ill get in trouble. So i went back to my class. Nikki comes into the classroom five minutes later with an expression of extreme anger which was surprising since she hadn't acted like that before and it was like a 180. She kept backing me into a corner then grabbed a metal tin trash can and started beating me in class with it in front of the teacher and classmates, once the teacher stopped her. I was made to aplogize her for not being a good support buddy. After that Nikki would basically become a nightmare, beating a serverly handicap kid who wore braces on his leg, threaten to bring a knife and slit mine or someone elses thoarts at recess, say that she will beat me to death and i should be prepare to die, trying to strangle kids. The school refused to do anything about it, so she torture me for three years and i was afarid everyday and dreading going to school. They finally moved her to a different class when my mom threaten to get lawyers involved and gave her a proper aid after she tried to rip my pants off on the school bus and the bus driver has had enough of her, told the principal that he was banning Nikki from riding his bus so she better find a different service to bring that girl to school. She also bit people and spit in their faces.
It was insane, but she stayed in the same school with us until 8th grade when Nikki threaten to shoot a football player in the face then she was removed. I thought was finally free from her. But 9th grade first day of school, im already nervous as hell, i walk into my 2nd class of the day. Guess who was there, no other than Nikki and she was happy to see me. She yelled my name and gave me a big bear hug, in my head i was screaming bloody terror and all the stuff she did in the past came rushing back.
Nikki had no memory of being a nightmare to me and thought we were buddy buddys. When i got home, i just went in my room into my closet to cry quietly so my family didnt hear. Understand Nikki wasnt the only bully i had, but it was like she started the chain effect that caused me to be bully badly by others for the rest of my school years.
Took alot of time to get to a point where if i had to talk about nikki that im not scared or trembling on it.
That first story brings back bad memories of one of my childhood summer that I spent some time with the new neighbor's child. First couple times, it was fine playing with her but then the kid showed me her new playing wooden cabin/mini house that she could lock from the outside. She had lured me inside (which was pretty easy because i'd never seen a mini house and I guess it's something many little girls would dream to have) and then she locked me in for a good 30min. She stayed silent, pretended to go away then would bang on the walls and laugh. I would ask her to let me out but she wouldn't. She said if I wanted to get out, I'd have to give her one of my earrings (they were fake earrings, piercing style). I said I would give her one and she let me out. Ended up having to give her the earring and then I went home in tears. My mom was LIVID when I told her what happened. I stayed with my big brother while she went to the neighbor's and asked for the earring back. She told them to watch and discipline their child and told them that their child wasn't allowed near me ever again.
Sam sounds like the Cookie Monster when he gets animated
S1 so the girl has no other friends and OPs daughter is the well behaved girl in class and is now being forced to be emotional support for the other girl. It’s almost like being punished for being agreeable.
John is gaslighting Sam and recruiting Riley
And eating the candy!
Story #2: I would worry if the daughter was groomed partly because of the age gap and closeness to the neighbors, but actions should have consequences
Story one info from someone from the UK for clarification SEN stands for special educational needs we also have SEND which is special educational needs disabilities. We have nursery 0-4 years old, primary school 4-11 years old, high school 11-16 years old then the option of college or 6 form (another type of college) university or go straight in to employment. Solicitor is a lawyer.
Sam clearly have NEVER been Bitten by another kid.. Sam, it hurts like HELL. So no thanks to be botten once a week if it would be the same Ingot bitten by a class "mate" when I was 6-7 y/o.
So F no!
the candy convo has very high 'gf and bf arguing/bickering' energy. XDD love it. i can see fanfics being writen
I can’t imagine a scenario where the OP in story 1 would be TA.
32:14 Good on John for withstanding the peer pressure. #Sambadtakes
It's 100% the school districts fault for lack of funding for the child. An assistant needs to be hired yesterday. Most of the time assistants are not paid enough so the positions are not attractive
My dudes. Dad knows about what’s been going on at the school because the daughter has been telling them. And obviously she’s expressed it in a negative way and not just “oh me and other girl paired up on project today.” That’s how you know how the little girl feels about this whole thing.
How did y’all not react to that BAR from Sam?!? Haha “the apple 🍎 doesn’t f*** far from the tree 🌳” 🤣☠️ 42:14
The John and Sam beef rises again!
you guuuuys!!!!! I love this show and i get that it was just a bit about a sensitive topic, however watching you bully John broke my heart a little. The dude has integrity.
It’s not extreme to kick the daughter out because it is 100% her choice. All she has to do is admit she slept with a married man and she can stay it’s not like OP was just kicking her out for the being a mistress just if she isn’t willing to tell the wife
I was 14 when I was finally diagnosed with that being said as a young child I knew I was very different than my other friends, adults around me called me rambunctious so I sought out other rambunctious kids I know my energy was a lot to handle my talking too fast or too much was annoying so instead of being told to shut up all the time I found other rambunctious kids to play with which were typically male kids with the level of chaotic energy I had. Ended up working out in my favor big time when I got to jr high and no it wasn’t for a dating aspect
That psycho tracking who entered OP's home and the amout of times OP said no to her having her child play with the other kid is so creepy. Way to isolate your kid
27:30 Sam's solution..."What if...we just exploit the poorest people's financial situation and fob the problem off on them? How could that go wrong?"
The last story had me thinking. The daughter is 21, and the married neighbor slept with her. I’m curious how long they have lived next to them. It’s sounds creepy in all honesty
Riley n Sam jealous they can't be as experienced and wise as old short beard wizard John.
#Sambadtakes
Story one: op definitely not the ah. I worked with special needs kids. It’s a lot of work and it shouldn’t be put on children. The school i worked at did have the kids help with the student body to help them learn social skills outside of the classroom.
The mom can’t bring the job into it since this isn’t a work issue. This is a personal issue but since she is threatening OPs job since she’s in a higher position OP can go to HR.
Op should also make a police report for harassment against the coworkers.
The school can’t go against the wishes of the parents if they’re asking to resolve an issue with their child. Especially since the stress could be contributing to the kid getting sick (stress lowers immune response). They can even take legal action against the school for using their child as unpaid child labor against the parents wishes.
Totally off topic, but does anyone else see Gilligan from Gilligan's Island when they see Sam in his Conspiracy Theory Hat? 😂😂😂
Riley: contracts terrible infection from repeated human bites for the moolah
9:00 the lesson the child should learn from this is that sometimes people only want to maintain a friendship so they can use you as a punching bag. Even if the child hasn’t explicitly said I can’t do this anymore she deserves to be taught that in a world full of these people it’s not her responsibility to care for or change those in her life who are that way.
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With the 1st story it honestly sounds like Mom is using her daughter’s developmental issues as an excuse for poor parenting. Just because your child is special doesn’t mean you let them get away with anything. She’s still a child and while teaching her and parenting may require a different plan of action it’s neglectful and abusive to tech this girl nothing and only seek to pacify her rather than guide her into becoming the best version of herself
Sometimes I think Riley needs to be in a special school 😂 16:17 like plz…somebody help Big Protein, all the protein is eating his brain lol
Actually the human bite can cause the limb to have to be amputated even if it doesn't bleed due to the pressure it can cause
Love the upgraded conspiracy hats
Story 1 - time to find a new job 😅
3:38 I don’t think it’s that, it seems like OPs daughter is her person and having them be friends makes the teachers job easier because when OPs daughter doesn’t pay attention to her she acts out.
As a mum of a special needs child that likes to throw hands, that mother is in the wrong completely. I would never do that to another mother/child, I know the risks and when a child does play with him I am highlyy appreciate them and thank them but that doesn't make me entitled to that child and their time and patience.
The biting is actually concerning cause human bites are way more dangerous than animal bites. Even if the skin is unbroken.
I wonder how long they have known the neighbors and how long she has been babysitting for them because it it very possible there could have been some grooming, but there’s just not enough information
The last OP was not kicking his daughter out of his house. He was saying to choose to start righting a wrong you have committed or choose to move out.
Considering Sam's golden rules John don't fall for it I'm in stitches today😂 poor John is too old to know what's going on
In America lawers are not licensed to practice law and attorneys are. Most people dont realize there is s different between the two.
It's not the kid responsability!!! Wtf now even paying them or wathever! It's a kid!! And force to take care of another kid!!! It's not right! Where are the boundaries? She needs help
Sam being a meanie lol
Story 1: I’d take the money tbh. 50K for a kid who will bite? Not a hard choice.
Story one: How about encouraging the whole class to be friends with the girl with dev. issues and not put it all on OP's daughter? But also did OP talk to their daughter about this? Why do ppl need to make such drama out of everything? As parents get together with the girls and discuss and find a solution, so that the girl with issues isn't entirely isolated and the other girl isn't obligated to be friends only with her. Try to find middle ground, lean something along the way and be kind at the same time. Why is this so difficult?
The school can't force anyone to be friends with anyone, especially someone who has demonstrated being violent with those who are willing to befriend her. They need to hire support, and her mom needs to take her to meet other people she can relate to.
Ooof the first story…😬 the biting…that’s never okay. The fact that the child isn’t able to build or maintain *any other friendships* then it’s time for her parents to intervene and find supports for their kid. The supports are not forcing other people, with no training or credentials, even expecting a child to act as the para/support for child who’s needing more supports than she’s currently receiving. It is setting her up for failure to not pursue having those in place, and if the parent is in a higher position of power…those jobs come with benefits, benefits that could help to cover the costs of said supports. To refuse to do so…is that parent setting their child up for failure. 😢 and it’s not fair to that kid, she didn’t ask to be, and she may not understand that her behaviors are unacceptable or why. She’ll never be able to grow outta those behaviors or replace them with better skill sets if her parents, her biggest advocates, don’t push to advocate for her to have access to those skill sets.
The dad is, imo, not the a-hole for giving his daughter that ultimatum.
That ultimatum is reasonable.
_HOWEVER_ I do think it's an a-hole move to make that decision all by him self, tell the daughter about it without having had as much as a conversation with his wife about it???
He alone does not get to make decisions about whether their daughter should get kicked out of her family house.
I wonder if it’s not the other girls development delay that prevents her from having friends but the parent. If this lady makes threats and stalks OP you bet she has done it to others who show any attention to the daughter. It sucks for OPs daughter if she was truely a friend to the girl. Why are the teachers and mum not supporting other friendships as well.
The co worker should have spoken to OP more about this and checked to see if they were okay with all the extra reliance on OPs daughter.
All siblings and young caregivers need time away and it’s not a negative thing. OPs daughter is a friend not a support worker to the co-workers daughter to force that on OPs daughter is not fair.
The daughter probably said something about it first
The parents with the challenged daughter should have fought for their kid to have proper help in school and outside of school. And nit leave it on the shoulders of another kid and family. They should have reached out to the friendly kid and her parents and asked if it was going well and thanked them for help. And have options for when it becomes too much for them. No they winged it and let it blowup
YTA sam
Let’s goooo happy Thursday y’all!!
Seriously hearing these guy’s opinions makes me miss Sophia who has more emotional intelligence than these three combined.
That mother has narcissistic behavior which daughter copy
Put your child in different kindergarten or preschool
Leave the candys out of it
Sam, the finance video you mentioned… is it Caleb Hammer?
Is insane it took 48:56 for telling one story 😂
39:08 I can’t wait!
Can wait for the live todayyyy
Sam, I'm disappointed with you. You're bullying your elders!
I seriously can't with the talking and smacking on candy.
9:00 the person making a list is being a A hole for keeping a log but I feel bad for them too and I especially feel bad for the kids. I hope someone has referred them to developmental disability services. If you live in the united states than they should have option especially if you live in the specific states like Oregon. It’s a very state that provides help for children and adults with a wide variety of medical and developmental disabilities. Please the earlier the inventions the better the outcomes will be for that child. I’m a support staff for adults with disabilities in Oregon.
You guys need to pay attention to what you're reading/hearing. Almost every story, you ask a question that's already been answered 😩