Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K Pro Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Is the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K Pro worth it?
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Newbie: How do you stabilize your shots?
Ryan: My eye in the viewfinder is my tripod.
I see nothing but facts here.
Yes but consider investing in a chiropractic treatment for that neck😂... the video was great thou👍🏽
I rest my forehead on a top handle lol I look funny but it works
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Can you make a review video for the cinematic pictures and the colors for this movie👇
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Great episode Ryan! I love what Blackmagic is doing for independent film. When you combine their hardware with their software, professional quality results have never been more accessible for regular working class filmmakers. They've had Adobe on its toes more and more with their continual improvements to Resolve, and now Canon and Sony are feeling the heat as well. Love it.
I've been WAITING for this review! Every time I bought a new camera, I always watched Film Riot's review first. Been a fan since 2015. Y'all never stop being amazing!
Price range is actually A LOT better than I was expecting! Love the variability of this camera. Thanks for the review!
I think you guys made the first camera review I ever watched. So excited for this one! I’m scared of manual focus, but otherwise it seems awesome.
I have been looking but can't find...I need to see if there is an adapter for my M4/3 lenses that can fit to this Canon EF. I see a lot of the other way around fitting canon lenses on the 4/3 but I cannot find anything otherwise.
they don't exist, its to do with flange lengths and image circles, you can put larger lenses on smaller frames but not smaller on large, if you did you'll find focus issues and alot of vignetting.
This camera is one of the best assets I've ever bought for my business. Highly recommend it to anyone. You guys killed this review.
Agreed.
I’m a Nikon stills shooter looking at this camera for videography. What lenses will I need to buy for this camera? Or can I use any kind of adapter so I can fit Nikkor lenses? Thanks in advance.
How do you feel about the dynamic range?
Dang, the built in ND filters might be a selling point for me. I was going to get the normal 6K already, but ND's are well worth the price increase for on the go filming.
Especially bc you're going to have to buy them anyways for your lenses. And if you buy good ones you easyly spend more. Same with the extra batteries that you'd have to buy going with the normal one. Still need them, but not as many. You're probably saving some money in the long term
Would it make a difference though? They're still in steps, so it's likely you'll never be shooting at native ISO outdoors without lighting and modifiers.
Totally. A good set of NDs is already more than the difference between the regular 6K and the 6K pro. Plus the better battery and swivel screen are an opus upgrades. This was a great move by blackmagic.
To be honest I have seen some reviews already popping up of the ND filters having decent tints, the higher the stop the higher the tint, which indicates that the ND filters are not as high quality as some claim.
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The image quality on this camera always blows my mind. It is like a cheat code for the price!
Love the review. Just jumped from my Sony a6300 to the BMPCC4K and absolutely loving it. It's been a long time coming but always felt like it would be impossible to get a Sony that wouldn't be out of date in a year and the BlackMagic just feels better when shooting.
You guys always have the most inspirational test footage. All the way since back when you convinced me to get an a7s
Crazy I've been watching u guys for like a decade now. Great review 🔥🔥
When i get lost , i watch film riot videos.eventually ill be back as new.
I have been waiting for this video,Great review
Thank you Film Riot
Yes!!! Been waiting all day for this :)
You guys rock!
That hot swap tip is great! Hadn't realized it cycles when drafting up my 4k comparison.
i love your reviews bro... good work for Nairobi Kenya
Thanks for taking the time to produce this excellent report. Very much enjoyed it. Quick question, what is the audio quality/ internal Amp like when you plus in a shot gun mic using a xlr to mini xlr into the camera. I'm thinking about using this camera for foreign trips so I can travel much lighter in terms of equipment (current have an Arri Amira set up) and I would need to plug a shotgun mic which I boom for interviews straight into this camera. Would the audio be good enough or would you need an external recorder? Thanks in advance, Sparky
I like that it also has two mini-xlr inputs rather than just one. I really wish it had SDI out. HDMI is always a hair lagy when pulling focus. If someone made an extension for the EVF that would make up for the lack of SDI. Now I'm curious how hard it would be to make said extension myself... hmm....
Thanks so much, for your review. Was waiting for the next version from the 6K and though I thought the next iteration would be 8K or more, they have improved upon the 6K. Thanks for your comprehensive review. I am now tempted to go in for this camera.
Just got this two days ago and have been blown away by the content I am creating with it. Major kudos to Blackmagic!
Been waiting for this review!
Hi Ryan! awesome video! What lenses do you recommend for this camera with stabilization?
Great video. It's also the first time I've heard someone say the NDs are IRND filters. That's awesome to hear!
Did you notice a magenta shift with the ND filters? I heard something about it with the 6k pro camera.
Great review! Just ordered two to go with my original 6K for multi cam shoots like interviews or video podcasts
The form factor of this camera leads me to *hope* they're working on an update to the URSA line that brings the camera closer to an Alexa Mini size while still providing stellar resolution/color science/pro features like SDI, increased power options, built-in NDs etc.
Sometimes Film Riot showing up in my notifications gives me nostalgia 😅
Ryan What camera did you use to shoot the product shots of the BMPCC6k Pro? Cheers, Jay
Love this. Liked and subscribed!
@filmriot love the review I noticed there is nothing on the channel so thought I'd ask if you have any thoughts on the Sigma FP?
I always watched your videos when I was younger.... Seeing you guys with gray hairs made me feel old.
BTW: Awesome video as usual
Any idea if there is a speed booster so we can use full frame EF lenses on this camera?
Are you using Davinci mainly now or still PPRO??
How are you liking Davinci -- made a complete switch and its been a dream
It’s been great seeing so much of Emily lately! 🥰
Is it just me or is it weird she's not trying to kill everyone?
Great review! Beautiful work!
thanks for the Review! Mine is arriving today :D Totally Bumped!
Nice upgrades all around (what the original 6K should have been), but the biggest misstep for me is the EF-mount. RF would made it MUCH more versatile and worth upgrading from previous versions. As much as I like the upgrades and built-in ND would be quite nice, I'll stick with my BMPCC 4K. Maybe the BMPCC 6K "Max" or "Ultra" will have RF mount?
Agreed, the 6K Pro is a fantastic cinema camera, I would love to get my hands on one!
I see lots of people wishing for IBIS, but I think it’s important to note that you’d also be sacrificing some things by incorporating that. With most “cinema” cameras it is often assumed you will be doing your own stabilization, and cameras with IBIS often have issues using these forms of stabilization. For example, adding IBIS makes it unusable as a crash cam in cars due to the micro jitters and jello. IBIS also makes it more difficult to fit internal NDs into the camera body. As usual, I think it comes down to what tool works best for what you’re doing.
If rather have IBIS than internal ND tbh, i can always screw on a variable ND to a lens and use step up rings. i love being able to move a camera handheld and know it will be smooth
I just don't get this IBIS need. No, no thank you. I can use my body or just heavier setup and slowmotion to make it "shake free" or just get OIS lens. I think people who request this are certainly not experienced or really have the need for this camera. Same for continuous AF, I'd love it, but it's not truly needed. All it would do is add unnecessary costs ..
@@marcuscisneros8528 just use your body, I don't want anything correcting my image unless I choose to. Additionally, IRNDs are great for run and gun or times where you simply do not have time on shoot schedule to be messing with matte boxes and screw ons. I think IBIS is rather amateur request considering there is pleathora of ways to combat it. If anything for solo run and gun shooters AF would be better, but then maybe the cinema line isn't really what you are looking for.
@@kolecava slowmo just for sake of "stabilizing" - that is amateur.
Anyway, all those features improve the filming process and make it more accessible. There's no point of saying "cinema cameras don't have IBIS and AF, and that's it". Like you're not pro if requesting that. Like it's some kind of religious burden "pros" must carry for some magical reason. Bullshit! Everything is changing. If focus pullers and dollies, gimbals, and steadicams won't be needed anymore at some point - that will be a huge relief and a big step forward.
@@imiy agreed dude, honestly in the future i see film sets being controlled by like 2/3 persons only because of all the innovations
Is it possible to have IBIS and Internal NDs at the same time?
Emily!!!!..great to see her and the film Riot family. Film Riot, my one stop RUclips film 🎥 school. Period!!!!
Where did you purchase yours? I'm in Dfw also.
Clearly, Blackmagic loves ND filmmakers
I’ve got the regular 6k and love it. But like you said I want better lowlight. What are your thoughts on the Zcam e2 F6? Seems like an awesome camera for the price
Awesome review guys !
Thankyou! One question. Can I shoot handheld? Because it has no ibis? I have lenses with stabilization. Is that enough? Shooting now on a R6 but it's overheating. Does this camera overheat? I'm filming in bright sunlight in 30 degrees
Thank you Ryan. Great review from the practical use perspective---a feature all too often lacking in some many youtube "reviews." Very welcome and refreshing as compared to "specks videos."
I love the results of my Pocket 6k, but the ND filters are too good to resist in this new iteration.
The beauty and convenience NOT to have to futz with variable ND filters is a tremendous step forward all by itself.
I really like the fact that BMD has done this new iteration with a laser-like focus on the camera's main weakness: Usability. They've fixed most everything that made usage difficult without changing all the things that make the camera a joy to shoot.
Thanks again.
Should I get this all the Sony a7iii?
Could you do an A7SIII review for filmmakers? Even If you just borrow it for a week. Love your work!
can you edit this with final cut pro?
How do we get some body part or partical for slasher filmmaking...
I think we live in the same town, Ryan - your shoot location at the harbor district is in my neck of the woods anyway 😁 I’m glad to see a local fellow BMPCC user!
Thank you for this review, you are making me fall in love with it more 😍😍😍😍
Are you using DR17 or are you using a different editor?
Hey Film Riot, what are your thoughts on the Ursa Mini 12K? It recently came down in price similar to canon c70, red Komodo etc
I've seen a lot of talk about the "blue tint" on the screen. Did you notice this at all while using it? I've been waiting for a proper review of this camera. Thank you!
Chiming in to say I experience it on mine. No change to the actual footage although it is an inconvenience.
Great video. As a someone who shoots primarily Still Art Photography, this looks like a natural evolution for doing some motion street shoots. Just curious if you know how many of the Canon EF/EF-S Art Lens it uses? For pro videographers or film pros I know that cinema lens are a must. But, for those of us that are going to be focused largely on light impacts, and don't have to worry as much about making actors or products look good, the Canon Art lens might be sufficient. Again, thanks for the info. Great channel.
There's an interesting battle between IBIS (in-body stabilization) and Internal NDs. And I kind of get the physics behind it, since the sensor needs to move, but it also needs to stay still in relation to the ND glass. So the solution is kind of finicky. Design an IBIS strong enough to move the ND together with the sensor (but you also have ND motors and cables)
OR, what I think would be the next step in the future, because we already have a glimpse of that in today's cameras: A LOT of Native ISOs (including very low ISOs), as ISOs in digital cameras are just basically reading/amplifying/dampening the sensitivity of the sensor. Think of it like your mobile phone charger that takes a lot of Volts out of a wall socket and transforms it into less Volts for your phone. So a Dual Native ISO basically means 2 "Transformers" attached to the same sensor, and the camera switches between the 2 when it reaches a certain ISO. So how about we have 10-20 Native ISOs, including LOWER ISOs. I'm talking ISO 20, 10, 5 or even ISO 1. That will be your ND filter, the Electrical Ability of your camera to Lower the sensitivity of what the sensor is seeing. Similar to how Volume knobs lower the amplitude of the sound that is being heard on the speakers.
I'm calling it now, in 5-10 years we'll be debating whether to get this 20 Native ISO camera or the other one that has 25 Native ISOs... And this is because "parts" are becoming smaller as we evolve (so you can maybe fit 4 transformers in the space of 1) but also more complex so maybe you can have a transformer that handles like 4 bands within the same circuit.
So I want this camera but with awesome low light what model reflects that
Plz do you dash out your old cameras
Thank you! Very informative
Is this a good upgrade from the Ursa Mini 4k or is it not worth it?
What kind of speed booster would make full frame lenses not crop on this? I paid good money for my focal lengths and I would hate to lose them
Someone standing around on the beach with piano music. Me: Must be a camera review.
Could be a beach review
@@BrendanEvan haha 😄 true.
Please, no mask outdoors. There's no transmission outdoors, unless you're kissing her.
Was nice to hear comments comparing the bmpcc4k with this camera as (it seems) everyone else is only comparing the two 6k’s! I hope BM do a 4K pro for all those that have invested in M43’s! Also, many older computer systems struggle with 6k, factoring in a new NLE system is not for everyone! Most material shot that is delivered online is never higher than 4K, moreover, still a huge majority of it is HD. Sure, it’s nice to be able to crop, built-in ND’s, tillable screen.. but we’re talking only ergonomics. However, from my understanding of IBS, I’m not sure (with current technology) that this would be a wise move as users have complained with the GH5 that this can detrimentally affect the image.. there are videos on this I believe. After all, Arri don’t use IBS on their mini cameras, though I must admit this doesn’t mean that in principle this is not a good idea, and of course technology will improve.
Still a great camera by the looks of it. Food for thought eh?! Thanks for the review.
Great review! Thank you
Does this compete with the a7III or FX3 or other
I’m new to filming and am looking for a quality camera for as close to cinema-like video for filming in my music studio. I’ve been looking at traditional DSLR cameras (in the 2K or lower price range) with video capability and was leaning toward a Sony A7iii. I like the idea of having a normal picture camera for photography but the main and real reason I want is for videos in my studio so that’s not a requirement. Should I get one of these (or the 4K) instead? Cause man some of this footage is really in the vein of the look I want and I’m willing to spend a little more to get what I really am looking for. Any responses would be greatly appreciated thanks!
Does it have a rolling or global shutter? Does it have a still mode?
Wish they had the smart autofocus system like how Sony A7Siii and Fx6, Fx9 has with thier G-master Lenses. Sometimes it's always good to save some extra bucks on focus puller and also saves alot of space on rig for C-motion and stuff
phenomenal Review Great product pack shots to I'm definitely sold I was Going to get the 6k but I think I might just get the 6k Pro now I think it's a keeper Blackmagic always seem to do good relatively affordable gear
Hi bro, which camera is good for independent filmaker. I wish to make a web series. Which camera is good in between panasonic s5 or bmpcc 6k pro ?
Is Resolve any good ? I've never used it before.
this is quite incredible.
recently talked to a DP that shot on the alexa mini for over six years: he said, no one can tell a difference between the pocket's and the alexa's image.
and he was only talking about the standard 6k version then
If you train your eyes you can tell
if thats true, wow. Sounds great
The only two things I wish you had talked about was timecode and audio features. Still a great review overall though. :)
will you shoot any bigger short film projects on the Blackmagic cameras?
How is the noise of the fan in the 6k pro? Does anybody know? I've heard, that the fan of the 6k is a bit louder than the one on the 4k..
Hey Bro Which Camera You Used For Making Of This Video Please Reply
What about the blue tint with the internal nd filter ?!
How are you Sir
Can you please help me with the name of that thing you put under the camera
What I really apreciate on a filmmaking camera: built in ND, XLR outs with 48 volt, bright flip monitor with false colour, good codecs til 120p and amamorphic options, good battery life, SDI would be nice.
What I don`t need: IBIS, follow focus, EVF, 20000 ISO.
Does the camera come with an auto focus feature?
Have they, added autofocus, ? I want to get the camera but I’m concerned about focus
Whoa, y'all shot the B-roll footage in Rockwall?? Are y'all based in Dallas??
Love how much you have grown
Love to see a cable to use the EVF away from the camera. I'm getting to old to lay on my stomach to see a shot. I know the new display is more functional, but sometimes the camera is in a weird location and using the EVF instead of carrying around an external seems like something I would like.
I am excited for the possibilities. Blackmagic has a camera for everyone now. The 6K pro looks great. For the next steps I am getting paid to do this work, the 6K pro looks great. I like the EF mount so if you shoot Canon and EF glass there your system just got nicer. Very nice to know and glad I saw this video.
So is there really 4K resolution in this camera I keep hearing about this 2.8k but i want to be sure
I want to know if it's possible to attach a 100 old Kodak lens on this camera that shoots 6k.
someone can tell me if you can use Panasonic Lumix Gh5 lenses or if there are all different lenses to buy and which one. Anyway, very good honest review.
This may be a stupid question but I've only ever own a Canon DSLR 5D Mark II... I'm wondering can the Canon lenses attach to the Black Magic? Or do they need lenses of their own?
EF mount is epic. I'm looking to add some canon lenses for my older DSLR, good to know they can grow with me if I decide blackmagic is the direction to go
Ryan I’m currently in Film School, I just finished up one of my best action Scripts so I was wondering how can I send it to you in case you wanna take a look.
On that denoise outside at iso 8000, did you downres to 4k? Cause that would help even more
If your shoot in prores internally it downsampled to 4K, but yes you’re right, for BRAW, shoot 6k, then downsample in post to 4K. This setup will reduce noise and you will have BRAW and control of the metadata.
Can BMPCC6K support 8tb M.2 SSD ? If yes, Can it run well ?
Is the resolve denoiser better than Neat video? 😮
Looks like a pretty comfortable handheld camera!💯🔥
5:50 what lens was this shot with?
Hi Ryan, Thanks so much for this review... LOWLIGHT... >> 8:20 what was your Aperture?!? Just to know. Keep up the great work. Really enjoy and get motivated by you guys! Thanks!!