Funnier still, the Lettuce lost her seat. In 2 years she went from Foreign secretary to Prime minister to International laughing stock to not even being able to get elected to her seat
What’s interesting is the combined vote share of the two big parties. In 2017, Tories + Labour weighed more than 80% of the vote ; in 2024 only about 55%. That makes the discrepancy between the vote share and the number of seats much more glaring.
A lot of people simply stayed home and didn't vote. Even with a Baath Party margin Labor is still going act like Tory Lite even though they have the ability to do some good.
@@han090Literally everyone except Labour would have done better if it wasn’t for FPTP- some less (lib Dems would only gain a few) and some more (Reform would gain hundreds)
@@Anonyomus_commenter you also need to consider many people voted tactically this time instead of just throwing their vote away (many Reform voters did this -- voted for them even though they weren't anywhere near close to winning an area). I'm sure there's a decent portion of non-tory supporters who voted libs to secure their seat and ensure the tories didn't get it.
@@Eltener123it’s impressive because they only have about 11 staff members whereas the big news channels have a large team of analysts, journalists, production crew, etc.
@@nadie8093 "The UK is in a better financial position than it was shortly after the worst financial crash since the Great Depression." Well it would be hard to be _worse_ than that.
This planet. It's a disagreement about what "better financial position" means. To normal people, "better financial position" means "low inflation and cost of living. Good opportunities for jobs and affordable housing". To Tories, "better financial position" means "the rich get richer". Sunak isn't wrong, he's just evil.
Sunak: We removed your feet from the fire, it's better now. Electorate: You cut them off at the knee, no anesthetic and we are waiting for prosthetics since then.
The LibDEms have been campaigning against this for years. There was a vote on changing the voting system some time ago, but I bet none of the Reform voters now complaining voted for it then.
As a Kiwi watching this election I find it crazy that Starmer can win a 400+ seat majority with 33.8% of the vote while Corbyn in 2017 only won 232 seats with 40%, and as much as I detest Reform UK they only win 4 seats with 14.3% while Lib Dems win 71 with 12.2%... Ya'll need proportional representation!
The Lib Dems share of seats was about 11%, so pretty close to their share of the vote, but other than that, I agree, the votes to seats ratios were very distorted by FPTP.
It's funny, right wingers are now only complaining about FPTP since they didn't win, but going PR would basically cement the left in power indefinitely as we have way more left leaning parties getting a combined total over 50% pretty much every time.
Honestly yeah, same with UKIP all those years ago. If these voters were not so dissatisfied with FPTP then I honestly think Reform would get a small bump in seats, but then die down.
Lizz Truss’ story reminds me of Kim Campbell’s story in Canada. They were both deeply unpopular leaders of floundering parties in their respective countries, and were promptly ousted from their chairs as PM
Her successor in her seat (who defeated her in 1993) is expected to lose her seat to the Conservatives when the next election happens. The Canadian Liberals are toast next election 💀😂
Finally we had an election where a great number of people voted for parties other than the main two, or for complete independents. And this is with a lot of people voting for the main two because of the fear of 'wasting' their vote.
Yeah most were weak minded limp lettuces who cannot use their own minds. Most probably only just chose Labour at last minute because they were scared little bunnies to vote outside their usual prehistoric boxes.. Wimps like these are what ruins our country. At least other European nations like France have the balls for change!
No after years by the two parties , and slow hidden , deliberate , dictatorships , and political corruption we are too frightened to vote otherwise , they have citizens right in the Palm of their hands
@@niblet112 I'm glad there are others that see this - fail to see the victory here, a controlled party with no restrictions, that'll be good for the UK.
Most interesting fact is that Labour went from 32.2% of the vite to only 33.8%. Not even 34% and you get a super majority. Democratic much? Only reasonnthey won is because Conservatives went from 43.6 to 23.8 so actually only 10% less than Labour. People didn't really vote for Labour so much so as they voted against the Conservatives.
True that. The FPTP system is reall quite undemocratic IMO. And basically all starmer had to do what just let the tories destroy themselves. He followed the rule of 'never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake' very well.
This might be the most unrepresentative parliament we've had... ever. Labour got 33.8% of the vote and 63.4% of the seats. Conservatives got 23.7% of the vote and 18.5% of the seats. Liberal Democrats got 12.2% of the vote and 10.9% of the seats. Worst of all, by far, is Reform UK. They got 14.3% of the vote (over 4 million votes!), and got a measly 0.6% of the seats. I might not like their policies, but that kind of disparity is exactly why voters are disengaged from our politics - our voice doesn't actually matter.
A supermajority is an American term. We don’t really have those in the UK. They just have a majority. But your correct, who can blame the populous in fairness, the cons were horrific at times
And, of course, Wales forgotten again. For those who are interested, here are the headlines: Tories wiped out for first time since 2001. A shock result on Ynys Mon. Not because of the result nationally, which expected the Tory vote to collapse, but because for the first time in its history, the island ejected a sitting MP and went from the Tories to Plaid Cymru. Had it not been for Reform taking 3,000 votes, it's likely that the Tories would have held onto it. Plaid Cymru gained two seats but also, significantly, appear to have increased their share of the vote in every constituency. Surprisingly, Labour's share of the vote dropped in many, if not most, of the seats in Wales. Possibly a hangover with the fact that they've been in power in Wales too long themselves?
Mogg has a 300 million fortune do you think he is bothered all you lot will be scrimping and trying to make ends meet under a labour government Mogg won't..So who is laughing at who 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
While I'm personally happy with the result, looking at the vote share vs seat share really does highlight just how messed up FPTP is. Lib Dems are right to be pushing for a change there, though I doubt labour will agree given the circumstances.
Ironically the Lib Dems had one of the most proportional seat to vote comparisons. (71 vs 78? with PR) Reform got more votes but roughly 5% of LD seats (4), the same number as the half as popular green party.
FPTP benefitted labour and lib dem this time, because lots of tory voters jumped ship and voted reform, so the right wing vote was split. In other elections it could work against them if say there's one tory candidate and one from labour, one from lib dem. Labour lib dem vote will be split, most likely giving the seat to the tories, even though more left wing people voted. It was like that where I live in the last election. The tory won by 1,000 votes, with the left wing vote split between lib dem and labour.
Labour got 2.3x the votes of Reform and got 103x the number of seats. Conservatives got 1.6x the votes of Reform and got 30x the number of seats. Lib Dems got 85% as many votes as Reform and got almost 18x as many seats. I don't think it matters who you support because this is a matter that should be important to anybody who wants there to be more than just 2 dominating parties - it's very clear that First Past The Post is failing the democratic vote of the population and needs to be changed for a system that gives more people an equal say.
@bigships If we has PR lots of individual people wanting to stand for election would choose to run as a smaller party. If your like Labour but your pro-EU you'd run as a Lib Dem, if you like Labour but the enviroment is very important to you you'd run under the Greens. The small parties would pull even more voters and canditates from the two main ones because Labour and the Tories wouldn't have to have such wide differences in policy within their own parties. They'd effectively split
Yes, and its going to take 4 years of everyone voting reform and convincing others to give reform a go. Labour know this , so likely will be trying hard to keep power through sabatage campaigns
Any other system can take a very long to count and often results in it taking a long time for a coalition government to form that flies apart faster than it took to form. Compulsory voting should be considered.
On the contrary, I think Nigel Farage and the Reform party can take that accolade. Sir Keir Starmer probably couldn't believe his luck when Farage decided to participate. The opinion polls yet again under estimated the Tory vote and over estimated the Labour vote. The gap between the parties is 10%, not the 15-20+% that most polls were indicating. In the actual election Reform polled 14% nationally. I think it is pretty clear that they did Labour a huge favour. IMHO they were the difference between a hung parliament and the result we got. As an aside, I don't think a 174 seat majority on 33.7% of the vote is a particularly good advertisement for our voting system.
I once worked with someone who told me the importance of “FU money”… meaning that if all turned to shit at work… he had enough money to walk away and not have a care in the world. The conservatives failed to realise that Sunak came from a such a position.
I always liked the idea of FU money as a way of saying I now have enough so FU to this horrible grinding labor I might be doing. But more often those with FU money are the ones making the people at the bottom work even harder?
@@goodlookinouthomie1757depends. Some want to turn money into power (see: Berlusconi in Italy, Trump probably (assuming he had money at some stage), Turnbull in Australia, Bloomberg, etc.)
Sunak wasn't the probelm. The problem was Braverman and Patel and the rest of the far right of the conservative party threatening to rebel unless Sunak carried on with the hubris and self destructive policy decisions. They went from the firm but fair party to the evil crony party and Sunak was the fall guy. I wish Sunak all the best in California and think he would've made a fantastic PM if Boris didn't proceed him.
Good luck from Canada! I’ve heard your social programs and economy have been suffering for several years, and I really hope your new government can turn this around. ❤ 🇬🇧
Very strange of you to describe the green’s performance as ‘didn’t have a terrible night’ they did very well considering their realistic goals and achieved everything they set out to. They won the highest number of seats they ever have, won every seat they were actively targeting and increased their vote share.
@@johnhanson5943Are you joking? The Greens barely got any attention during the run up, while everyone rushed to report every time Nigel Farage scratched his head
@@johnhanson5943 that's why they're so successful with - checks notes - 4 seats. Wow, great use of resources, if that's true. Like, if your "big brother" is so weak that they only can get 4 seats, what the heck are you afraid of?
Good riddance Rishi! It does still baffle me how the voting system works though... Reform 4m votes and only 4 seats, Lib Dems 3.5m votes, 71 seats! I know it's seperated by constituency but my gosh you get half a million more votes than another party but end up 67 seats short of them. Insanity.
Congrats to Labour but a bad night for democracy. Low turn out, a massive land slide for Labour with 35% of votes and the rise of multi party votes. WE really need electoral reform. A residency requirement would reduce the power of party over MP and strengthen the constituency link but which voting system? All have weaknesses but FPTP is the worst. My choice would be STV. It returns a constituency candidate that is broadly in line with the consensus of the area and also strengthens the link to voters.
@@Barnacl3_Boiin the current system FPTP you divide the nation into a number of districts and whomever wins the most votes in that district wins the election. IRV makes changes to this so that you rank candidates in order of preference. The biggest loser is eliminated and their voters next choices are given votes. This happens until someone wins a majority of the vote in the district. STV takes this one step further by combining districts and allowing multiple candidates to win. This balances local representation and general voter sentiment. CGP Grey has some excellent short videos on the subject.
The voting was not much different than in 2019 except for the Conservatives losing half their vote to Reform. Labour and the LibDems should thank Nigel Farrage for their 'outstanding' performance. The result is NOT a ringing endorsement for Labour, it is just a solid repudiation of the Conservatives.
Exactly, Farage did a deal with Boris last time around to not run in any battleground constituencies where Labour had a chance of getting in. This time they ran in every constituency they could
True - and this is a part of the problem. Gaining 200 seats because Conservatives voted Reform shows the problem with not having proportional representation.
Correct. I m actually quite impressed that the comments on this channel are not just childish insults and most people are engaging quite reasonably with each other. Seems I may have misjudged it.
Somewhere out there, Boris is letting out a HUGE sigh of relief realizing getting forced to quit early was the much more preferable way to leave office office in the end 😂
Agree and im conservative.. but realistically there are always those who will never change their vote. I voted reform it was that or stay blue. I will not vote labour as they dont represent the working class. With that said, labour gov likely wont make it past 5 years based on the general mood of the public.
@@Talisguy While i'm not a reform voter, the increase of tax free allowance to £20k would have been the best win for working class, as would writing off student loans of nurses/doctors been huge. Now would reform have actually done this? Probably not, but their manifesto was pretty good for the working class.
I voted Labour to rid us of the tories, but there will be little change if any at all. Both the tories and labour had signed up to 18bn worth of cuts to public services in a bid to draw down debt so Labour will only deliver minor change. It's going to be a rough 5 years.
How to fix the country: -Rejoin the EU, with Freedom of Movement and eventual integration into Schengen Area -Tax on 95% of all land value -Repeal Town and Country Planning Act -Dissolve irrelevant government agencies, bureaucracy, and regulation -Huge investment into social programs and infrastructure paid by cuts and taxes elsewhere -Set up special economic zones and business incentives with the goal of creating as much economic growth and entrepreneurship as possible -Create a new 'Ministry of Demographics' with the goal of increasing the national birth rate -Abolish the House of Lords and replace it with a proportionally elected house of representatives -Reorganise the country into local regions that will handle local administration. This will also replace devolved assemblies like the Senedd and Scottish Parliament -Prioritise high-skilled immigration; if you get a degree in a STEM subject you should be handed UK citizenship on a silver platter -Do everything in our power to build a large tech sector with the goal of effectively utilising AI and other new technologies -Educational system with the goal of creating the most productive, highly skilled workforce, while also being educated in a broad range of fields -Renationalise water and energy. Rail will be under a Japanese-style group of private companies overseen by the government that don't compete with each other and also own the railways, stations, and land around their operations, with the goal of these companies to also be property developers. All under one transport brand -A national culture of having a beautiful society, building the best we can. A lot more volunteering programs as an example to keep communities tidy and beautiful. Inspire people to find solutions to our problems, not endlessly moan and while about them
I know its a weird voting system though, how can you get just 35% of the voting public and end up with 70% of the parliamentary seats ? Totally undemocratic.
NPC's who vote Tory every election because that's what their family have always done. Plenty of them vote Labour for the same reasons. People who vote like this shouldn't be allowed to vote, we all suffer because of their ignorance.
There's more to it than that. There's this woman I work with - her grandparents have a house up for sale for £1.2 million. In 2016, it was £525,000. So it has gained £700,000 in like 7/8 years - which is far more than I'll ever be able to save. The younger generations, who're paying more than ever for housing, food and getting shafted with stagnant salaries, we all said FU to the Conservatives. But you've got to remember there's another demographic who got all the benefits of a Conservative government. They're not voting in the interest of the working population, but the old decrepit population who're sucking the wealth from the young.
I think he was a bit, I didn't think he would win. I thought the media rampage on him did enough damage to his reputation, but i'm glad he won. he actually seems like a decent guy who hasn't really changed his policies since he started in politics. It's a real shame what happened to him, but it just shows how easy it is for the media to smear someone and for everyone to be brainwashed into believing it. Even in the age of information at our fingertips, humans still react to basic emotion rather than fact
As many have said now more than ever the UK needs PR. To win with only a third of the vote is disgraceful. Left and right need to put their differences aside and start campaigning endlessly for PR.
Bro search instant runoff on google. In my opinion it is the best electoral system in the world. PR creates unstable coalition governments. It is a mess.
At the same time, FPTP kept the fascist-lite Reform from becoming Britain's 3rd party. So last night FPTP worked in the wider public interest...for once. What we saw was Labour and the Lib Dems uising FPTP against their opponents to spectacular effect. Both only targetted their campaigns at the seats they wanted and all but abandoned seats they either had already or had no chance of obtaining. That way they maximised the power of their vote share. Normally it's the Tories who use this tactic, but this time they were on the sharp end. Reform on the other hand may have had millions of votes, but their vote is only strong among bigots and nationalists. Every UK constituency has only a small number of those to draw on. 10-15% is the usual figure given for members of the public with far-right views. So unless Reform got massively bolstered by angry renegade Tory voters (which they did), they were doomed to keep losing because 15% share doesn't buy seats in any constituency. Frankly I regard it as a lucky f'ing escape. I voted to change the vote system to AV in 2011 referendum, but the overwhelming majority of the public rejected it. If offered the change to PR, I'd say yes but I've got a sense that another referendum would end up the same way because for whatever reason it seems only political anoraks demand vote system change. PR is more democratic, no question of that. But I do worry over the Pandora's box it opens, especially with western democracy in general being in such poor and fragile health. If this were a PR system right now, A Labour/Lib Dem/Green powerblock would only narrowly have the counterbalance of power to keep a bigoted Tory-Reform pact from destroying the forward progress of the nation.
Is anyone else who's watching from America realize that we have a two-party system and everyone else has several parties to choose from, meeting several varied opinions with different voting policies and such? We have not allowed that
The biggest mistake Sunak made during the election was focusing on Labour, and not Reform. Looking through most of the results, it is clear that if Sunak had focused most of his effort on Reform, Labour would have lost so many seats given their low polling share. It does leave Starmer with a big problem, as with Reform in 2nd place in such a large number of seats means that if he fails to turn the ship around in 4 and a half years, Reform will expand and be fully battle ready for the next GE.
@@nathanwhitehouse8237 Won't happen. The sheer reason the Torries didn't get less than they did was the strategic voting (and the life long Tory voters). Expect the Tories to crumble further and Reform, a real conservative party to take its place as one of the 2 biggest. Who knows, possibly they'll get rid of FPTP too when they get in.
I think focusing too much on Reform would give them additional PR and might accidentally mobilize more anti Tory voters to vote reform in safe Tory districts - due to dissident right wingers feeling betrayed by the tories going so hard against Reform in the debates and communication.
5:02 "while it's a little soon to tell, there are some candidates that are in a particularly strong position right now" *proceeds to show Larry walking across the door* Larry is absolutely a better candidate than most. Great editing work lmao
Hi, could you explain why is this not a victory ? Is there a more leftist / progressive / worker party in england ? Or is UK fate to stay liberal and pro Israël for ever ? Im not english.
@@aurelienscheurer2750 Like the Democrats in the USA are corporate warmongering centrists with some progressive window dressing, the current brand of "Labour" is not much different than the Tories in any substantive way.
@@aurelienscheurer2750to get that result, Labour became far more centrist and even leaning right on some issues to court the conservative vote. It's a shift of their alignment to the right really.
Reform getting 14.3% and only 4 seats should be the story. Lib dems got around 2% less vote share and got about 8-9 less seats than the should've proportionally but still over 23x what reform got.
@@lordpolish2727 Not necessarily. Just pointing out there are benefits to that system as well. For example it lets all the parts of the country have an actual say instead of there just being people of the large cities that are appointing the whole parliament by there overnumbering share of votes.
@@zi326Well if the majority of the people live in big cities, they should get the majority of the representation. Places shouldn’t be represented, people should.
But Labour barely got any more votes than in last election. Like 1.5% more. Its Tory electorate not bothering to vote at all, and then Reform taking away millions of their voters whilst only getting like 4 seats.
Five years ago I couldn't care less about politics, now I'm obsessed. UK, France, US, Canada.....things are crazy and the next five years are going to be Apocalyptic.
@@dab88 🤣 you do realise joining the European Union, giving over power to a foreign leader was treason right. We are a sovereign nation (well supposed to be) joining shouldn’t of ever happened anyway.
@@kaym7704 but look to the EU and you will see that its still pretty bad compared to what other countries are doing. still. the US got it worst i will agree
only change is what?from sunak to him,he can't change the sanctions britain imposed on themselves,can't join brics,can't overturn the nuclear threaths,can't join the free world trading platform
I find it mad though the number of voices who said after Boris won in 2019 "yeah, but he only got 43.6% of the popular-vote, so that means less than half the country wants him". Okay, and Kier has just won on 33.7%, meaning two-thirds didn't want him. Can we please change the voting-system in this country already? 🤷🏻♂️
I do remember all the leftist media pointing out how Boris got a 50%+ majority of seats with "only" 43% of the votes... Now look at Starmer getting 60%+ of the seats with only 33% of the votes. You won't see those same leftists journalists and supporters pointing that out, even though it's actually way worse this time around xD
Well, Lib Dems have always wanted PR and got the Tories to agree to a referendum on it but it got voted against at a rate of 2-1. Largely voted down by the people who now finally get why we need it.
@@theoppositeopinion9290 They said no to it because it wasn't the thing anyone wanted. It was basically just a more confusing version of FPTP - one seat per constituency, popular parties get most of the seats on 30% of the vote.
At least it stopped the reform party and the tories. It would be better if we could vote for who we really wanted rather than tactically, but that’s what needed to be done and it was lovely to see most of the country come together to get rid of the tories!
A bartender I met on holiday in the Scottish Highlands early June, who was himself pro-independence, said he thought there would be a big slump in the SNP vote because the main thing on voters' minds was no longer independence, but the state of the NHS and cost of living.
The problem with the labour party in the UK, is the same as the labour party SPD in germany. They got more and more conservative over time, and could now be rather titled "conservative light". Also alarming is the rise of the liberal party, as position wise they aren't any different from the torries. They're are all neoliberals, and this politic is what got britain in this state in the first place. There won't be a significant improvement, and this leeds to the rise of rhe far right, as seen in other european countrys
Denmark’s Socdems is maybe the way to go. Which is far more left wing economically and has resisted most neoliberal shifts such as major privatizations of public services and major tax breaks for the rich, harming trade unions or reduced public investments - and is very liberal on most social issues such as gender equality, increased foreign aid, climate change and LGBT - BUT they have in a way “price matched” the far right in terms of immigration and law/order with very tough stances that has increased demands on citizenships/reduced migration significantly and increased policing/punishments for violent crimes and thus completely demolished the far right in the polls (Far right support fell from 23% to 3% in very short time due to this strategy). However their strategy mostly works in a proportional electoral system due to relying on losing a lot of liberal Socdem voters to more liberal left wing coalition parties in the same bloc while regaining blue collar former far right voters that thus makes the right wing bloc fall apart and left bloc win.
@@kingbeam80ify sorry, but you've got that the wrong way round.... Labour is left, and Starmer is about as far left as you can get in a generally conservative society, everyone thinks that labour under Blair moved right to take the centre ground from the conservatives, but what actually happened under Cameron was he moved left, made the mistake of continuing with Blair's policies, that he never understood, and the conservatives didn't correct it under May, or Johnson.... Hence we ended up with a conservative party implementing left wing policy that they never understood.... What we got under Sunak was a parliament full of labour, lib Dems and conservatives all operating on the left, this is why the conservatives have now got to totally reorganise themselves back to the central right ground..... Under Starmer what you will get is strong left wing policy.... on steroids....
Rishi Sunak: "The Labour party has won this general election." It's a relief to live in a country where win or lose, our leaders believe in the democratic process.
He's a middle-manager passing the reigns to another middle-manager who all work for the same boss. The only time they'd be salty is if someone who isn't in the pig ********* club wins.
@@charlesunderwood6334 No, they don't. All they care about is being in power. Your economic situation is going to continue to deteriorate because no one is paying attention to the exports.
The vote count for Starmer's own constituency was down by 50%, total votes for Labour was hardly any different from the defeat of Corbyn in 2019, yet this time it results in a landslide victory, totally bizarre and unrepresentative system we have !
It's not bizzare. Before reform party, there wasn't really anywhere for right wingers to go other than the tories. Left wing vote was split between labour and lib dem. So this time, the right wing vote was more split between tories and reform. Tory voters jumped ship and voted reform, so thank you to reform for messing up the right wing vote 🙂
@@Silverwidows What a bizarre way of thinking, there is only one party responsible for the Tories defeat, and that's THE TORIES, do you honestly think if they had carried out what they promised in 2019 they would have got this result ? No, they gave the electorate no other choice, they deceived the Tory voters that gave them a big majority, if they had controlled our borders as promised do you really think they would of lost ? Don't be so disingenuous ! Many former Tory voters voted for the LibDems, some to Labour, where do you think the LibDems got those extra 61 seats from ?? I don't see you blaming them for some bizarre reason ! They are responsible for their own downfall, NO ONE ELSE !
@@Silverwidows 4 million votes and 4 seats is not a democracy - sorry to pop that bubble. Just because your team probably won, the last time the Tories had the same and Labour voters bleated on about it and this time its OK. Welcome to the reason nothing will change for the better in the UK - different cheeks of the same arse getting voted in all the time by the same ar&&holes.
I generally fail to understand why people always bring this up. "They won the game of football because they played with the rules of football. Had they played with the rules of chess, someone else would've won." No shit, but it's not a game of chess. People don't like it? Fantastic, I don't like it either, let's change it. But there was a great chance in 2011, people voted no to it. But as long as the game is football, you need to play by its rules.
People always say it, because it's always relevant. They're not calling for insurrection, but electoral reform. If you're football match had the rule "the highest paid players score three for every one goal" then you would say "it's the rules, but the rules should change". It's not complicated.
@@captainufo4587 it's not as black and white as just winning or losing, I was hinting at something more. Yes Labour won the election, but Starmer now leads a country where around 66% of the population didn't vote for him. That is going to have an impact down the line. To use your football analogy, it's like winning because the opposing team all died in the first half. Yes it's a win, technically, but did we earn it?
Great video! So disappointed in the UK's election system. How does a party with 14.3% of the representative vote have less than 1% of the seats. Is that Democracy? The amount of tactical voting this creates is obscene. Need to follow in Europe's footsteps and develop a representative system. Labour "landslide" win with 33% of the votes...
No, it's not democracy. It's a constitutional monarchy, with a system designed to stop anti monarchist groups - traditionally socialists and fascists - from gaining enough of a foothold to ditch the Monarch.
The story of Lizz Truss makes me think of the Canadian story of Kim Campbell. Both of them were extremely unpopular as the heads of failing parties in their home nations, and they were quickly removed from their positions as prime minister.
Frankly, they're basically the same. The difference is the Tories stopped offering the one thing people in this country really want - plausible deniability. People in this country are small minded, ignorant, nationalistic bigots - but they don't want to be confronted with anything that might challenge their view that they're basically good people. They vote Tory rather than say, Reform, because they want small minded, ignorant, nationalistic, bigoted policy, but they want to be able to pretend that that's not what they voted for. And when it all goes tits up, as it always does, suddenly all the people who voted Tory last time round are lifetime Labour Supporters (just so long as it's not Corbyn, or any Labour politician who's politics are substantially different from the Tories.) But after fourteen years of the tories getting more and more explicit in the evil fascist shit they wanted to do, people just can't pretend that this isn't what they voted for anymore. Meanwhile, Labour has basically come out under Starmer and said "We're gonna do exactly the same shit the Tories wanted to do, we're gonna be just as corrupt (read: declassifying hate groups as hate groups because a rich woman told them to) but we'll do it in a way that lets you pretend that you're still a liberal, not a Conservative." The current Labour Party's politics ARE Tory politics. The current Labour Leadership stand for the same shit that the Tories do - IE, basically nothing, but with a heavy emphasis on Nationalism, Traditional Values and supporting or otherwise promoting bigotry. They aren't going to do the worst shit that the Tories would have (like literally getting rid of the Human Rights charter) but they are still willing to support hate groups, bigoted organisations, and promote nationalism - while privatising a LOT of essential shit that should belong to everyone. The same people who were getting poorer and poorer will continue to do so, the same groups being murdered in the streets will continue to do so. All this means is things get worse just a tiny bit slower, until the general public get complacent again and the Tories get back in. This won't change anything. Nothing is going to get better. The only reason most of you seem to think this is such a game changer is because you don't belong to one of the three or four groups being scapegoated by both parties. It means nothing because no politician substantially different from this mold can ever win in this country. When offered a choice between Free Wifi and clearing Student Debt or Children drowning in the Channel and people dying in the streets, you all thought Free Wifi and clearing Student Debt sound like the worst option. Everything is fucked and nothing will change. If you gave me the money right this second I'd just leave before this nation goes full fascist.
@@simoncox9689 Oh you mean 14 years ago? Yeah nothing in Global Politics has changed in 14 years, you're so right, there definitely haven't been multiple massive events that fundamentally changed the political landscape across the world. Silly me. Now will be just like Fourteen Years Ago.
Kamala, darling, that second have passed while I was reading that pessimistic comment. How much money do you want and there you will be going? My be I will follow. Do you prefer an island or a continent? I do not like to be called "small minded, ignorant nationalistic bigot, turning fascist". Shell I start packing the bags?😭
Nah, FPTP protects us from extremist parties. Gives coherent Parliamentary opposition. Allows people to vote between people and not parties. It is one of the best form of methods for independent politicians. There is a reason most countries adopted it because for large voting - it is the best method for representation.
@@stuffmcstuff399 "best method of representation" How so? It is people that must be represented. That's the very point of d3m0cracy. And what happens when 2 extr3m1st parties become the main ones like it happened in US? In that case you need to get rid of FPTP to get rid of the extr3m1sts. Be honest with yourself. You just want to keep the status quo.
@@stuffmcstuff399 Yes, perpetual stagnation and flip flopping between two brands of the same feckless, milquetoast neoliberal ideology is the way forward.
Nothing will change because the labour party isn't that different from the conservatives. My prediction is that the people will be disappointed and this leeds to a right wing shift. You see this everywhere in europe. A flawed democratic system and less education is to blame
@@kingbeam80ify you think the voting chose the outcome. The reason Labour lost under Corbyn was thanks to the media. Likewise why Starmer won today. Media sanctioning to relieve the political right of pressure. Exactly why Blair won in 97 and Wilson in 74
I hope there will be new change for the people in the UK w/ this new government. For too long there has been stagnation and decline and I hope it’ll be a stepping stone for the UK to bounce back.
That transition to the sponsor segment made me do a reality check. Ever since I started watching TL:DR, I really thought that those two hosts were one person.
1:00 I am not from the UK, but how can a party get ~14 percent of total votes but only four seats? Feels like the seats do not represent the share of the voters. Can someone please explain that?
Yeah, it's not very representative, a party getting 1st in a few constituencies gets them seats, but another party getting 2nd or 3rd in several constituencies gets them nothing.
First past the post - same system that the USA and Canada use. When you vote in the UK election you're voting for a local MP rather than a party leader. There's 650 seats up for grabs in the House of Commons and a party needs a majority of 326 to form the government. Let's say there's 4 seats. Seat 1: Party A - 16k votes, Party B 15k votes Seat 2: Party A - 16k votes, Party B 15k votes Seat 3: Party A - 16k votes, Party B 15k votes Seat 4: Party A - 5k votes, Party B 30k votes Party B got 75k votes across those 4 seats compared to Party A who only managed 53k votes, but Party A won 3 of those seat races. Reform got more votes overall than the Lib Dems, but the Lib Dems focused on campaigning certain areas which would translate into more seats. Reform also came second in a lot of races and were the only right wing alternative to the Conservative Party which meant the vote split in many seats.
@@battlep0tso who is the opposition Now Reform or Conservative i mean if all those seats they came in second place that will benefit them in the next election
The multiparty parliamentary system of British politics / governance is very fascinating to me. As an American myself it is largely alien from my perspective in relation to my view of the American political machine but it is nonetheless very interesting in seeing the mechanisms of power at work within other nations governments. Thanks for the great video.
Tories lost because they were crap at government.
Always have been.
Their only reason for existing is for increasing the amount of money and wealth the rich have. By those metrics, they've certainly done their job.
Politicians don't control everything.
Isn't that the basic point of democracy?
yup that's how, generally, a party gets voted out of office. By not being good enough.
Everyone: Why should we vote for you?
Labour: We're not the Tories
Everyone: True tbf
Less votes than Corbyn got. Isn't FPTP great?
Labour lost votes in plenty of places only winning because people voted reform over conservative. Victory by default they are not who the people want.
Really disappointing how voting became a system of voting against instead of for
@@tomlxyz It's easier to see which party has failed than to research which party would be the best option.
Reminds me of the last german election .
Funnier still, the Lettuce lost her seat. In 2 years she went from Foreign secretary to Prime minister to International laughing stock to not even being able to get elected to her seat
As a Scandinavian, I just like to confirm that you are correct that everyone laughs at her, all over.
as an american i have heard a handful of liz truss jokes too, even though our political system is also a joke
I'm googling this Lettuce MP...
Yup, a picture of a lettuce.
Netherlands here. correct we laughed hard at the Lettuce
@@cdw2468话说多党制下其中某一政党长期执政，其执政经验更加丰富，与各政府部门协调沟通效率更高，面对一些社会治理和经济发展实践经验也更足，而在野党因为长期在野，相关经验比不上前者，如此“恶性”循环下去，就算在野党侥幸当选，也多半可能会因为执政期间工作不力被投下，那么从事实上说不是就变成了一党制了吗[思考]现实实践中我看日本有类似现象，同时美国多党但是实践上仍是两党轮流坐，英国也是保守和工党轮流坐。进一步说，如果我是这样一个社会的某个资本财团，那我就可以在核心政党中通过游说等饭方式达成党派间默认的共同利益，从而避免因为政党更迭和民众社会进步的呼声对政党的压力而影响了我的资产
I've never seen a man so happy about losing his job than Rishi
The guy is just happy he wont be blamed for the country's problems for the next 5 years
And he won’t have to age 20 years in three
he made his job. Destroyed everything. Mission accomplished.
Didn't see Gordon Brown.
@@Root777Beer 5 years
6:11 "Assemble his first cabinet" * shows a man assembling an IKEA cabinet *
Good choice for b-roll footage 😂
Haha, I had to rewind, because my eyes were like "wait what?" haha.
Well there are gonna be many MPs left over that we dont know where they go! Just like IKEA
AI😂
😂😂😂
What’s interesting is the combined vote share of the two big parties. In 2017, Tories + Labour weighed more than 80% of the vote ; in 2024 only about 55%. That makes the discrepancy between the vote share and the number of seats much more glaring.
A lot of people simply stayed home and didn't vote. Even with a Baath Party margin Labor is still going act like Tory Lite even though they have the ability to do some good.
@@WalterOtterly So what? "of the vote" not of the total population
Ironically, both reform and the conservative party would have done better if it weren't for the flawed FPTP system.
@@han090Literally everyone except Labour would have done better if it wasn’t for FPTP- some less (lib Dems would only gain a few) and some more (Reform would gain hundreds)
@@Anonyomus_commenter you also need to consider many people voted tactically this time instead of just throwing their vote away (many Reform voters did this -- voted for them even though they weren't anywhere near close to winning an area). I'm sure there's a decent portion of non-tory supporters who voted libs to secure their seat and ensure the tories didn't get it.
Absolute machines. To end a stream at 11pm and already have a video out before 10am the following day.
Well done team
Nice job team
They ended the stream at 11pm? So they just discussed the exit poll? I thought they were going to be live throughout the night?
Most news outlets streamed through the night and had deeper analysis throughout...
@@Eltener123it’s impressive because they only have about 11 staff members whereas the big news channels have a large team of analysts, journalists, production crew, etc.
@@Eltener123 Exactly, and those coverages aren’t behind a paywall.
I assumed with them being a paywall that the stream would be longer than an hour
Funniest thing Sunak said was that the UK is in a better financial position now than in 2010... like what fucking planet is he on?
World economic forums...
Tbf between 2008-2014 all of Europe was in terrible financial shape
@@nadie8093 "The UK is in a better financial position than it was shortly after the worst financial crash since the Great Depression."
Well it would be hard to be _worse_ than that.
This planet.
It's a disagreement about what "better financial position" means.
To normal people, "better financial position" means "low inflation and cost of living. Good opportunities for jobs and affordable housing".
To Tories, "better financial position" means "the rich get richer".
Sunak isn't wrong, he's just evil.
Sunak: We removed your feet from the fire, it's better now.
Electorate: You cut them off at the knee, no anesthetic and we are waiting for prosthetics since then.
Jeremy Corbyn 2019 = 10,295,912 = 203 seats
Keir Starmer 2024 = 9,712,011 = 412 seats
Rishi Sunak 2024 = 6,814,469 = 121 seats
Nigel Farage 2024 = 4,091,549 = 4 seats
Ed Davey 2024 = 3,696,419 = 71 seats
John Swinney 2024 = 708,759 = 9 seats
Yeah the Uks system is fucked.
Only Reform UK is willing to address the issue
The constituencies changed and amount of people actually voting varies
@@belindalucas5468every other minor party is willing to address the issue. Reform isn't special
Green, reform, TUSC and some labour MPs are deciding to put forward electoral reform for PR
The LibDEms have been campaigning against this for years. There was a vote on changing the voting system some time ago, but I bet none of the Reform voters now complaining voted for it then.
Can't wait for CGP Grey to make another video about winning 32-34% popular vote means you form the government
Hear hear. FPTP was dumb I 2010 and it's even dumber now. Everyone needs to see the CGP Grey videos
(Edited for spelling and grammer)
@@In_Purple_Clad And everyone needs to never mention the alternative vote in serious conversation again XD.
@@In_Purple_CladNo they do not
This comment should be interpreted as an attack against that moronic hack CP grey
@@adamhenrywalker care to elaborate and explain why?
As a Kiwi watching this election I find it crazy that Starmer can win a 400+ seat majority with 33.8% of the vote while Corbyn in 2017 only won 232 seats with 40%, and as much as I detest Reform UK they only win 4 seats with 14.3% while Lib Dems win 71 with 12.2%...
Ya'll need proportional representation!
A kiwi saying "y'all" just isn't right
If the electoral system
changes, the campaigning changes as well. I don't think the results would have been too different.
The Lib Dems share of seats was about 11%, so pretty close to their share of the vote, but other than that, I agree, the votes to seats ratios were very distorted by FPTP.
It's funny, right wingers are now only complaining about FPTP since they didn't win, but going PR would basically cement the left in power indefinitely as we have way more left leaning parties getting a combined total over 50% pretty much every time.
Honestly yeah, same with UKIP all those years ago.
If these voters were not so dissatisfied with FPTP then I honestly think Reform would get a small bump in seats, but then die down.
Lizz Truss’ story reminds me of Kim Campbell’s story in Canada. They were both deeply unpopular leaders of floundering parties in their respective countries, and were promptly ousted from their chairs as PM
Her successor in her seat (who defeated her in 1993) is expected to lose her seat to the Conservatives when the next election happens.
The Canadian Liberals are toast next election 💀😂
Finally we had an election where a great number of people voted for parties other than the main two, or for complete independents. And this is with a lot of people voting for the main two because of the fear of 'wasting' their vote.
Yeah most were weak minded limp lettuces who cannot use their own minds.
Most probably only just chose Labour at last minute because they were scared little bunnies to vote outside their usual prehistoric boxes..
Wimps like these are what ruins our country. At least other European nations like France have the balls for change!
Exactly this. Voting 'strategically' is wasting your only way to signal your priorities.
Shows people are waking up. Now starmer will wake the rest, when he becomes a tyrant we all know he is
No after years by the two parties , and slow hidden , deliberate , dictatorships , and political corruption we are too frightened to vote otherwise , they have citizens right in the Palm of their hands
@@niblet112 I'm glad there are others that see this - fail to see the victory here, a controlled party with no restrictions, that'll be good for the UK.
Most interesting fact is that Labour went from 32.2% of the vite to only 33.8%. Not even 34% and you get a super majority. Democratic much? Only reasonnthey won is because Conservatives went from 43.6 to 23.8 so actually only 10% less than Labour. People didn't really vote for Labour so much so as they voted against the Conservatives.
Lmao
In the end, Corbyn's shadow will never leave the Labor
I hope there's a new Corbyn that will lead the party again in the future.
True that. The FPTP system is reall quite undemocratic IMO. And basically all starmer had to do what just let the tories destroy themselves. He followed the rule of 'never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake' very well.
We don't deal with concepts like "supermajority". That's an American thing which the tories used as a scare tactic. It didn't work. 🤣🤣
This might be the most unrepresentative parliament we've had... ever.
Labour got 33.8% of the vote and 63.4% of the seats. Conservatives got 23.7% of the vote and 18.5% of the seats. Liberal Democrats got 12.2% of the vote and 10.9% of the seats. Worst of all, by far, is Reform UK. They got 14.3% of the vote (over 4 million votes!), and got a measly 0.6% of the seats. I might not like their policies, but that kind of disparity is exactly why voters are disengaged from our politics - our voice doesn't actually matter.
A supermajority is an American term. We don’t really have those in the UK. They just have a majority.
But your correct, who can blame the populous in fairness, the cons were horrific at times
And, of course, Wales forgotten again. For those who are interested, here are the headlines:
Tories wiped out for first time since 2001.
A shock result on Ynys Mon. Not because of the result nationally, which expected the Tory vote to collapse, but because for the first time in its history, the island ejected a sitting MP and went from the Tories to Plaid Cymru. Had it not been for Reform taking 3,000 votes, it's likely that the Tories would have held onto it.
Plaid Cymru gained two seats but also, significantly, appear to have increased their share of the vote in every constituency.
Surprisingly, Labour's share of the vote dropped in many, if not most, of the seats in Wales. Possibly a hangover with the fact that they've been in power in Wales too long themselves?
Sorry Wales! ☹️
What's new? - Disliked the video for this exact reason. I swear every English person really wants to be a Scott. They never shut up and Scotland.
Brother nobody cares
You forgot the best thing of all!!!! Jacob Rees-Mogg (the gentleman from the 1800 century) lost his seat!
oh hell yeah
Liz truss lost her seat as well.
Not a gentleman
Mogg has a 300 million fortune do you think he is bothered all you lot will be scrimping and trying to make ends meet under a labour government Mogg won't..So who is laughing at who 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@nowgrownup im glad you are here to defend him
While I'm personally happy with the result, looking at the vote share vs seat share really does highlight just how messed up FPTP is. Lib Dems are right to be pushing for a change there, though I doubt labour will agree given the circumstances.
Ironically the Lib Dems had one of the most proportional seat to vote comparisons. (71 vs 78? with PR)
Reform got more votes but roughly 5% of LD seats (4), the same number as the half as popular green party.
The UK is now finished. Odd to find happiness in that.
@@anonglakmoonwicha2726 melodrama is unbecoming.
FPTP benefitted labour and lib dem this time, because lots of tory voters jumped ship and voted reform, so the right wing vote was split. In other elections it could work against them if say there's one tory candidate and one from labour, one from lib dem. Labour lib dem vote will be split, most likely giving the seat to the tories, even though more left wing people voted. It was like that where I live in the last election. The tory won by 1,000 votes, with the left wing vote split between lib dem and labour.
They won't be complaining anymore.
They get less votes than Reform but 67 more seats.
They should be careful what they wish for...
Cat walks by... Cat walks back... Cat get pets.
it is mandated.
Came here to mention the Cat. ^_^
Larry is clearly the best option for PM
Meow
:3 Kitty!
“ Larry the Cat “ won the seat uncontested 🐈
Unlikely without photo ID
I would vote for larry
@@BromideBride Like the Monarch, the Chief Mouser does not require photo ID, their own face is enough for identification.
Rishi for prison
@@jbshiva865 no ID, no representation - we only have room for one effigy on the currency.
"Assemble his first cabinet"
*Shows a guy putting a literal cabinet together*
I hope hi did read a mannual.😆
@@malcolmwallis4, technically there aren’t any words in IKEA manuals. 🤣
@@agbook2007 Yeah they went for hieroglyphics instead
Labour got 2.3x the votes of Reform and got 103x the number of seats.
Conservatives got 1.6x the votes of Reform and got 30x the number of seats.
Lib Dems got 85% as many votes as Reform and got almost 18x as many seats.
I don't think it matters who you support because this is a matter that should be important to anybody who wants there to be more than just 2 dominating parties - it's very clear that First Past The Post is failing the democratic vote of the population and needs to be changed for a system that gives more people an equal say.
The Lib Dem’s got almost a proportional number of seats compared to their vote share, if we had PR, reform would have gotten 80 or so
Well thank god it worked against Farage for us on this day
Agree- compared to Corbyn's Labour, Kier got only 1.6% more votes but somehow 209 more seats.
@bigships If we has PR lots of individual people wanting to stand for election would choose to run as a smaller party. If your like Labour but your pro-EU you'd run as a Lib Dem, if you like Labour but the enviroment is very important to you you'd run under the Greens. The small parties would pull even more voters and canditates from the two main ones because Labour and the Tories wouldn't have to have such wide differences in policy within their own parties. They'd effectively split
PR would be of little help to Reform as they are transfer toxic.
Insanely impressive you managed to produce this in such a short time frame by the way. I bet you're bloody knackered.
now we need rid of the first past the post system!
Yes, and its going to take 4 years of everyone voting reform and convincing others to give reform a go.
Labour know this , so likely will be trying hard to keep power through sabatage campaigns
No. Keep it. It protects against small parties getting too much power.
Any other system can take a very long to count and often results in it taking a long time for a coalition government to form that flies apart faster than it took to form. Compulsory voting should be considered.
@srjwari Reform are the worst party currently. It's rife with discrimination and lies.
And why is that a bad thing?@@nathanwhitehouse8237
Chief Mouser Larry probably has a fair shot for tory leadership.
Dedicated civil servant that he is, I understand he's staying in office under the new government.
Hes not as toxic like braverman and patel
No news outlets mentioning Lettuce Truss got a slow clap 🤷🏼♂️🤣
It was on BBC, they mentioned it several times during election coverage
Sky news also
Hopefully this will mean any relevancy she had remaining will fade into the wind... Like a bad fart
Really? Need to see that.
The curse of zelensky is very real. Everyone who backed him paid a heavy price
Sunak is the best Labour supporter this country has ever had 😂
😂😂 He's a spy.
On the contrary, I think Nigel Farage and the Reform party can take that accolade.
Sir Keir Starmer probably couldn't believe his luck when Farage decided to participate.
The opinion polls yet again under estimated the Tory vote and over estimated the Labour vote. The gap between the parties is 10%, not the 15-20+% that most polls were indicating.
In the actual election Reform polled 14% nationally. I think it is pretty clear that they did Labour a huge favour. IMHO they were the difference between a hung parliament and the result we got.
As an aside, I don't think a 174 seat majority on 33.7% of the vote is a particularly good advertisement for our voting system.
I once worked with someone who told me the importance of “FU money”… meaning that if all turned to shit at work… he had enough money to walk away and not have a care in the world.
The conservatives failed to realise that Sunak came from a such a position.
But at the same time, why would you take on such a job if you have FU money. You wouldn’t. I wouldn’t.
I always liked the idea of FU money as a way of saying I now have enough so FU to this horrible grinding labor I might be doing. But more often those with FU money are the ones making the people at the bottom work even harder?
You have to wonder. If I had FU money then last thing I'd want to do is be prime minister.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757depends. Some want to turn money into power (see: Berlusconi in Italy, Trump probably (assuming he had money at some stage), Turnbull in Australia, Bloomberg, etc.)
Sunak wasn't the probelm. The problem was Braverman and Patel and the rest of the far right of the conservative party threatening to rebel unless Sunak carried on with the hubris and self destructive policy decisions. They went from the firm but fair party to the evil crony party and Sunak was the fall guy.
I wish Sunak all the best in California and think he would've made a fantastic PM if Boris didn't proceed him.
Good luck from Canada! I’ve heard your social programs and economy have been suffering for several years, and I really hope your new government can turn this around. ❤ 🇬🇧
Very strange of you to describe the green’s performance as ‘didn’t have a terrible night’ they did very well considering their realistic goals and achieved everything they set out to. They won the highest number of seats they ever have, won every seat they were actively targeting and increased their vote share.
Not impressive considering Big Brother uses / supports these political green (UN green) most - with huge resources.
They are just being British 😄 They once described a scenario where Putin launches a nuclear bomb as “not quite ideal”.
@@johnhanson5943Are you joking? The Greens barely got any attention during the run up, while everyone rushed to report every time Nigel Farage scratched his head
a greenie is noting more than a lazy person who can't do math and science and thus expects the government to subsidize their fantasy life.
@@johnhanson5943 that's why they're so successful with - checks notes - 4 seats. Wow, great use of resources, if that's true. Like, if your "big brother" is so weak that they only can get 4 seats, what the heck are you afraid of?
That assemble his first cabinet gag had me rolling 😂
Late night editor with their fourth beer
Talking as a true labour - ass-emble them!
Been looking forward to this video all morning
Christ how early do you wake up
congratulations to Sinn Fein for getting the most seats in Northern Ireland!
they didn't gain a new seat, but they still came out on top!!
26 + 6 = 1
Notice how all the pro Reform Yank commenters are silent on that one.
The north of Ireland.
The Unionists also have less seats than Irish nationalists and the DUP are falling apart. 😊
I mean, did they get them, actually?
@@DarklordZagarna well they'll never sit in Westminster if that's what you're asking.
Good riddance Rishi! It does still baffle me how the voting system works though... Reform 4m votes and only 4 seats, Lib Dems 3.5m votes, 71 seats! I know it's seperated by constituency but my gosh you get half a million more votes than another party but end up 67 seats short of them. Insanity.
It's not baffling at all. If you don't have concentrated votes to win actual seats in constituencies then you don't gain an MP. Quite simple
Likely depends on the votes per seat vs total votes nationwide.
If I remember correctly, MP's are elected per electoral district and not nationwide...
its because the lib dems have got their stuff together and know what they're doing. they know how to win seats not just minds.
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Nothing gets past you, does it. I think OPs point was the lack of fair representation under FPTP.
I like how at 5:03 "There are particularly strong candidates" they show the cat.
Probably the best choice ngl
Meow!
I think it is some kind of a trick - then some sh8t happens they show an animals or some flora.
Very impressive that you managed to get out a video of this quality so quickly.
probably had the graphics ready and then it was just a case of putting in the data and filming the talking :)
Pre planned. Just like the results.
@@niblet112 you're not only wrong, you're boring. Please go somewhere else.
Your coverage has been fantastic, superb journalism
Congrats to Labour but a bad night for democracy. Low turn out, a massive land slide for Labour with 35% of votes and the rise of multi party votes.
WE really need electoral reform. A residency requirement would reduce the power of party over MP and strengthen the constituency link but which voting system? All have weaknesses but FPTP is the worst. My choice would be STV. It returns a constituency candidate that is broadly in line with the consensus of the area and also strengthens the link to voters.
What is an STV system?
FPTP is a joke.
@@Barnacl3_Boiin the current system FPTP you divide the nation into a number of districts and whomever wins the most votes in that district wins the election. IRV makes changes to this so that you rank candidates in order of preference. The biggest loser is eliminated and their voters next choices are given votes. This happens until someone wins a majority of the vote in the district. STV takes this one step further by combining districts and allowing multiple candidates to win. This balances local representation and general voter sentiment. CGP Grey has some excellent short videos on the subject.
^ First past the post, instant runoff vote, single transferable vote, for those who like to actually know what abbreviations mean.
I'd say best is STV, followed by PR. D'Hont (my country's poison) is practically a joke, and FPTP is a sick joke no one laughs at anymore.
The voting was not much different than in 2019 except for the Conservatives losing half their vote to Reform. Labour and the LibDems should thank Nigel Farrage for their 'outstanding' performance.
The result is NOT a ringing endorsement for Labour, it is just a solid repudiation of the Conservatives.
Exactly, Farage did a deal with Boris last time around to not run in any battleground constituencies where Labour had a chance of getting in.
This time they ran in every constituency they could
Reform for UK
True - and this is a part of the problem. Gaining 200 seats because Conservatives voted Reform shows the problem with not having proportional representation.
Correct. I m actually quite impressed that the comments on this channel are not just childish insults and most people are engaging quite reasonably with each other. Seems I may have misjudged it.
Yes, it's quite clear it's not a pro-Labour vote, more like an anti-Tory vote.
You guys are always so quick to post
'First past the post'
@@calahoon22 nice. Top ref
Somewhere out there, Boris is letting out a HUGE sigh of relief realizing getting forced to quit early was the much more preferable way to leave office office in the end 😂
Sad it wasn't actually "zero seats" but good enough I guess
Agree and im conservative.. but realistically there are always those who will never change their vote.
I voted reform it was that or stay blue. I will not vote labour as they dont represent the working class.
With that said, labour gov likely wont make it past 5 years based on the general mood of the public.
@@srjwari Reform doesn't represent the working class either.
@@Talisguy it doesnt Not either...
Labour used too... decades ago.
@@Talisguy Why should a political party only represent one group of people? Isn't the point to represent everybody, or at least the majority?
@@Talisguy While i'm not a reform voter, the increase of tax free allowance to £20k would have been the best win for working class, as would writing off student loans of nurses/doctors been huge.
Now would reform have actually done this? Probably not, but their manifesto was pretty good for the working class.
I hope the public will get the change they want.
I do not foresee much of a change given the position of Labour on Brexit, environment, and taxes.
I voted Labour to rid us of the tories, but there will be little change if any at all. Both the tories and labour had signed up to 18bn worth of cuts to public services in a bid to draw down debt so Labour will only deliver minor change.
It's going to be a rough 5 years.
It's like everywhere else in Europe. Vote SoDem and you'll have a gradual decline. Vote Tory and you'll plunge into a dystopia within two decades
well everything is bloody broke and an Atlee sized job there is to do...
How to fix the country:
-Rejoin the EU, with Freedom of Movement and eventual integration into Schengen Area
-Tax on 95% of all land value
-Repeal Town and Country Planning Act
-Dissolve irrelevant government agencies, bureaucracy, and regulation
-Huge investment into social programs and infrastructure paid by cuts and taxes elsewhere
-Set up special economic zones and business incentives with the goal of creating as much economic growth and entrepreneurship as possible
-Create a new 'Ministry of Demographics' with the goal of increasing the national birth rate
-Abolish the House of Lords and replace it with a proportionally elected house of representatives
-Reorganise the country into local regions that will handle local administration. This will also replace devolved assemblies like the Senedd and Scottish Parliament
-Prioritise high-skilled immigration; if you get a degree in a STEM subject you should be handed UK citizenship on a silver platter
-Do everything in our power to build a large tech sector with the goal of effectively utilising AI and other new technologies
-Educational system with the goal of creating the most productive, highly skilled workforce, while also being educated in a broad range of fields
-Renationalise water and energy. Rail will be under a Japanese-style group of private companies overseen by the government that don't compete with each other and also own the railways, stations, and land around their operations, with the goal of these companies to also be property developers. All under one transport brand
-A national culture of having a beautiful society, building the best we can. A lot more volunteering programs as an example to keep communities tidy and beautiful. Inspire people to find solutions to our problems, not endlessly moan and while about them
@@davidty2006Unfortunately, Starmer is not Atlee. But I'd love to be proved very wrong in that.
Corbyn stood as an independent and won. I just wanted to repeat this fact.
His constituents are no doubt pretty unhappy with what the Labour Party did to him. Labour can forget about winning that electorate for a while.
@SamW-jo5cf I bet they do care. It's an embarrassment for them.
@@Pushing_Pixels Labour did well enough without the Corbynistas.
@@loopholesloopyIf he was a part of Labour, I actually personally wouldn't have voted for him like I did with him being an independent, so agreed.
@SamW-jo5cfthey do, considering how indignant they and their supporters are
23.7% of the electorate looked at the current government and said "yes, more of that please"
Blows my mind
I know its a weird voting system though, how can you get just 35% of the voting public and end up with 70% of the parliamentary seats ? Totally undemocratic.
NPC's who vote Tory every election because that's what their family have always done. Plenty of them vote Labour for the same reasons. People who vote like this shouldn't be allowed to vote, we all suffer because of their ignorance.
There's more to it than that.
There's this woman I work with - her grandparents have a house up for sale for £1.2 million. In 2016, it was £525,000. So it has gained £700,000 in like 7/8 years - which is far more than I'll ever be able to save.
The younger generations, who're paying more than ever for housing, food and getting shafted with stagnant salaries, we all said FU to the Conservatives. But you've got to remember there's another demographic who got all the benefits of a Conservative government. They're not voting in the interest of the working population, but the old decrepit population who're sucking the wealth from the young.
@@Colin623 technically a party could win every seat in the country with only 650 votes more than the opposition
What’s the problem?
6:10 "..assemble his first cabinet" 😂 Love the choice of imagery!
Labour: 412 seats with 9.68mil votes.
Reform: only 4 seats with 4.09mil votes.
Something doesn't add up.
FPTP. We have this discourse every election.
Corbyn got more votes in 2017 than Starmer did this election.
You gotta win your constituency.
adds up just fine
FPTP for you
The "beauty" of FPTP which would allow you to govern even with less than 10% if you got more than any other party.
Great to have a quick comment and update in the early hours of the results. Now subscribed. Always enjoy your videos.
Corbyn was not unexpected whatsoever.
I think he was a bit, I didn't think he would win. I thought the media rampage on him did enough damage to his reputation, but i'm glad he won. he actually seems like a decent guy who hasn't really changed his policies since he started in politics. It's a real shame what happened to him, but it just shows how easy it is for the media to smear someone and for everyone to be brainwashed into believing it. Even in the age of information at our fingertips, humans still react to basic emotion rather than fact
Agreed. Probably has a more loyal following than any other labour leader that came before him
yup, corbyn is a local man, he's loved by his constituents.
He's extremely popular in Islington, he got more of a share of the vote than Starmer did in his constituency
it was for me. I am so relieved that he won. I was sure that there was a pre-election poll showing Corbyn behind.
As many have said now more than ever the UK needs PR. To win with only a third of the vote is disgraceful.
Left and right need to put their differences aside and start campaigning endlessly for PR.
To paraphrase Animal Farm:
_All votes are equal_
_But some votes are more-equal than others_
🥺
Bro search instant runoff on google. In my opinion it is the best electoral system in the world. PR creates unstable coalition governments. It is a mess.
At the same time, FPTP kept the fascist-lite Reform from becoming Britain's 3rd party. So last night FPTP worked in the wider public interest...for once.
What we saw was Labour and the Lib Dems uising FPTP against their opponents to spectacular effect. Both only targetted their campaigns at the seats they wanted and all but abandoned seats they either had already or had no chance of obtaining. That way they maximised the power of their vote share. Normally it's the Tories who use this tactic, but this time they were on the sharp end.
Reform on the other hand may have had millions of votes, but their vote is only strong among bigots and nationalists. Every UK constituency has only a small number of those to draw on. 10-15% is the usual figure given for members of the public with far-right views. So unless Reform got massively bolstered by angry renegade Tory voters (which they did), they were doomed to keep losing because 15% share doesn't buy seats in any constituency. Frankly I regard it as a lucky f'ing escape.
I voted to change the vote system to AV in 2011 referendum, but the overwhelming majority of the public rejected it. If offered the change to PR, I'd say yes but I've got a sense that another referendum would end up the same way because for whatever reason it seems only political anoraks demand vote system change.
PR is more democratic, no question of that. But I do worry over the Pandora's box it opens, especially with western democracy in general being in such poor and fragile health. If this were a PR system right now, A Labour/Lib Dem/Green powerblock would only narrowly have the counterbalance of power to keep a bigoted Tory-Reform pact from destroying the forward progress of the nation.
Ranked choice is better than proportional representation, especially with multiple regional parties existing.
Still better than the us voting system. If you live in a small state your vote doesn't matter.
2:45 should be noted, the man in charge of the exit poll said reform was their most uncertain
Is anyone else who's watching from America realize that we have a two-party system and everyone else has several parties to choose from, meeting several varied opinions with different voting policies and such? We have not allowed that
The biggest mistake Sunak made during the election was focusing on Labour, and not Reform. Looking through most of the results, it is clear that if Sunak had focused most of his effort on Reform, Labour would have lost so many seats given their low polling share. It does leave Starmer with a big problem, as with Reform in 2nd place in such a large number of seats means that if he fails to turn the ship around in 4 and a half years, Reform will expand and be fully battle ready for the next GE.
Hopefully the Tories regroup and push Reform down
He DID focus on Reform by promissing to handle the 1ll3gal 1mm1grat10n, but nobody trusted him at that point.
@@nathanwhitehouse8237 Won't happen. The sheer reason the Torries didn't get less than they did was the strategic voting (and the life long Tory voters).
Expect the Tories to crumble further and Reform, a real conservative party to take its place as one of the 2 biggest. Who knows, possibly they'll get rid of FPTP too when they get in.
@@Hardcore_Remixer reform are a far right facist party and are in no way a real conservative
I think focusing too much on Reform would give them additional PR and might accidentally mobilize more anti Tory voters to vote reform in safe Tory districts - due to dissident right wingers feeling betrayed by the tories going so hard against Reform in the debates and communication.
Labour won because Tories were just terrible.
Sad isn’t it. Voting out a rat and replace him with a snake
@MrMirville well they were great after Blair apparently. It’s a revolving door of replacing one after the other screws up. 🤣 sign of insanity
Larry holds the constituency of Downing Street.
The American mind (mine) can't conceive of electoral swings this huge, good for you guys.
I specifically voted (tactically) to get rid of the SNP. They've trashed Scotland with their egos and incompetence since 2014.
Very shrewd
Failed here!
Outsider here, so is the Scottish independence movement dead for now?
Well done you've fucked yourself.
@@mbbsboi7248 I mean if Labour acts like they did before then no lol
5:02 "while it's a little soon to tell, there are some candidates that are in a particularly strong position right now" *proceeds to show Larry walking across the door*
Larry is absolutely a better candidate than most. Great editing work lmao
Alice was right - even cat can look at the King.
Yippie! the slightly less Irradiated Water Party won against the Chernobyl Water Party!
Ikr
Hi, could you explain why is this not a victory ? Is there a more leftist / progressive / worker party in england ? Or is UK fate to stay liberal and pro Israël for ever ?
Im not english.
@@aurelienscheurer2750 Like the Democrats in the USA are corporate warmongering centrists with some progressive window dressing, the current brand of "Labour" is not much different than the Tories in any substantive way.
@@aurelienscheurer2750to get that result, Labour became far more centrist and even leaning right on some issues to court the conservative vote. It's a shift of their alignment to the right really.
@@aurelienscheurer2750look into Green party.
Great work guys.
Rather than apologize to Tory party, Sunak should have apologized to the country for the damage they've done.
Reform getting 14.3% and only 4 seats should be the story. Lib dems got around 2% less vote share and got about 8-9 less seats than the should've proportionally but still over 23x what reform got.
what a dogshit system 🤣
@@anonymousanonym450 Believe every country thinks that their own system is shit when things don't go the way they want
@@zi326 are you really trying to defend first past the post
@@lordpolish2727 Not necessarily. Just pointing out there are benefits to that system as well. For example it lets all the parts of the country have an actual say instead of there just being people of the large cities that are appointing the whole parliament by there overnumbering share of votes.
@@zi326Well if the majority of the people live in big cities, they should get the majority of the representation. Places shouldn’t be represented, people should.
I enjoyed how kind the police officer was to the cat!
If I was a British citizen I would have voted for that man.
I'd have voted for the cat if the alternative was Liz Truss and Kemi Badenoch.
Nice summary as per, thanks
Not voting Tories was sensible, voting Labour was just spiteful 🤣
But Labour barely got any more votes than in last election. Like 1.5% more. Its Tory electorate not bothering to vote at all, and then Reform taking away millions of their voters whilst only getting like 4 seats.
I agree with anything you say if you have a red panda as pfp
Labour only got 2/3 of the vote. It’s going to be one of the most unpopular governments in recent history.
@@informitas0117how nice of u
Voting Reform was even worse!!
Five years ago I couldn't care less about politics, now I'm obsessed. UK, France, US, Canada.....things are crazy and the next five years are going to be Apocalyptic.
Of course The uk especially now, he will sign us up for all kinds of nasty stuff.
@@niblet112 what could be worse than Brexit lmao
@@dab88 🤣 you do realise joining the European Union, giving over power to a foreign leader was treason right. We are a sovereign nation (well supposed to be) joining shouldn’t of ever happened anyway.
As long as the orange monkey stays out of power things will be fine.
@@niblet112giving power to a foreign government…you’re being a bit dramatic. You may have to play by club rules when you are part of a club.
He's in IKEA right now picking out a nice cabinet. As is tradition
Oh, no no no! He have to build it himself and make a video of it to prove that he can labour a job!
Great result for the UK.
Only British election can show us how rotten this system is
Don’t look across the pond. The US is worst with our outdated electoral college.
@@kaym7704 but look to the EU and you will see that its still pretty bad compared to what other countries are doing. still. the US got it worst i will agree
Got you lot are so unhappy
you need help
only change is what?from sunak to him,he can't change the sanctions britain imposed on themselves,can't join brics,can't overturn the nuclear threaths,can't join the free world trading platform
Congratulations UK!
I find it mad though the number of voices who said after Boris won in 2019 "yeah, but he only got 43.6% of the popular-vote, so that means less than half the country wants him".
Okay, and Kier has just won on 33.7%, meaning two-thirds didn't want him.
Can we please change the voting-system in this country already? 🤷🏻♂️
Less people turned out more and more dont believe in the democratic process .. theyre wise to it all now
I do remember all the leftist media pointing out how Boris got a 50%+ majority of seats with "only" 43% of the votes... Now look at Starmer getting 60%+ of the seats with only 33% of the votes. You won't see those same leftists journalists and supporters pointing that out, even though it's actually way worse this time around xD
@eljay5009ok and? It just shows how undemocratic the system is
It's on trending!! Congrats guys!!
6:12 “assemble his first cabinet”😂🤣😂
14% of the vote but only 4 seats? Your Parliament system is a joke UK
Well, Lib Dems have always wanted PR and got the Tories to agree to a referendum on it but it got voted against at a rate of 2-1. Largely voted down by the people who now finally get why we need it.
Has been for nearly a century. But brits are slow learners.
It's a good system for stopping racist populists clearly
@@theoppositeopinion9290
They said no to it because it wasn't the thing anyone wanted. It was basically just a more confusing version of FPTP - one seat per constituency, popular parties get most of the seats on 30% of the vote.
At least it stopped the reform party and the tories. It would be better if we could vote for who we really wanted rather than tactically, but that’s what needed to be done and it was lovely to see most of the country come together to get rid of the tories!
Reform got 5 seats, not 4. Although the last seat was recounted 3 times so that info probably wasn't available when you made the video 👍
A bartender I met on holiday in the Scottish Highlands early June, who was himself pro-independence, said he thought there would be a big slump in the SNP vote because the main thing on voters' minds was no longer independence, but the state of the NHS and cost of living.
"I'm a fighter, not a quitter"
-Lady Oogway
The problem with the labour party in the UK, is the same as the labour party SPD in germany. They got more and more conservative over time, and could now be rather titled "conservative light". Also alarming is the rise of the liberal party, as position wise they aren't any different from the torries. They're are all neoliberals, and this politic is what got britain in this state in the first place. There won't be a significant improvement, and this leeds to the rise of rhe far right, as seen in other european countrys
Did you call the Liberal Democrats similar to the Tories? Have you even read their manifesto? They are more left than Labour.
Denmark’s Socdems is maybe the way to go. Which is far more left wing economically and has resisted most neoliberal shifts such as major privatizations of public services and major tax breaks for the rich, harming trade unions or reduced public investments - and is very liberal on most social issues such as gender equality, increased foreign aid, climate change and LGBT - BUT they have in a way “price matched” the far right in terms of immigration and law/order with very tough stances that has increased demands on citizenships/reduced migration significantly and increased policing/punishments for violent crimes and thus completely demolished the far right in the polls (Far right support fell from 23% to 3% in very short time due to this strategy).
However their strategy mostly works in a proportional electoral system due to relying on losing a lot of liberal Socdem voters to more liberal left wing coalition parties in the same bloc while regaining blue collar former far right voters that thus makes the right wing bloc fall apart and left bloc win.
Even the actual "conservative party" isn't at all conservative. I mean they had a foreign leader for crying out loud.
@@kingbeam80ify sorry, but you've got that the wrong way round.... Labour is left, and Starmer is about as far left as you can get in a generally conservative society, everyone thinks that labour under Blair moved right to take the centre ground from the conservatives, but what actually happened under Cameron was he moved left, made the mistake of continuing with Blair's policies, that he never understood, and the conservatives didn't correct it under May, or Johnson.... Hence we ended up with a conservative party implementing left wing policy that they never understood.... What we got under Sunak was a parliament full of labour, lib Dems and conservatives all operating on the left, this is why the conservatives have now got to totally reorganise themselves back to the central right ground..... Under Starmer what you will get is strong left wing policy.... on steroids....
Rishi Sunak: "The Labour party has won this general election."
It's a relief to live in a country where win or lose, our leaders believe in the democratic process.
I imagine he's pretty pleased he can now trot off to the US
He's a middle-manager passing the reigns to another middle-manager who all work for the same boss. The only time they'd be salty is if someone who isn't in the pig ********* club wins.
Imagine living in the usa lol.
All I can say is "Good luck, UK. You're gonna need it."
Why? We now have a party in charge who care about people.
@@charlesunderwood6334 No, they don't. All they care about is being in power. Your economic situation is going to continue to deteriorate because no one is paying attention to the exports.
@@charlesunderwood6334 Not about British people 😂
@@scottkrafft6830 Explain yourself (without being racist)
@@charlesunderwood6334 good one xDDDD
The vote count for Starmer's own constituency was down by 50%, total votes for Labour was hardly any different from the defeat of Corbyn in 2019, yet this time it results in a landslide victory, totally bizarre and unrepresentative system we have !
It's not bizzare. Before reform party, there wasn't really anywhere for right wingers to go other than the tories. Left wing vote was split between labour and lib dem. So this time, the right wing vote was more split between tories and reform. Tory voters jumped ship and voted reform, so thank you to reform for messing up the right wing vote 🙂
@@Silverwidows What a bizarre way of thinking, there is only one party responsible for the Tories defeat, and that's THE TORIES, do you honestly think if they had carried out what they promised in 2019 they would have got this result ? No, they gave the electorate no other choice, they deceived the Tory voters that gave them a big majority, if they had controlled our borders as promised do you really think they would of lost ? Don't be so disingenuous ! Many former Tory voters voted for the LibDems, some to Labour, where do you think the LibDems got those extra 61 seats from ?? I don't see you blaming them for some bizarre reason ! They are responsible for their own downfall, NO ONE ELSE !
@@Silverwidows Nah it's good, in case you haven't heard a vote for the tories isn't a "right wing vote" the tories are literally just labour lite.
@@Silverwidows 4 million votes and 4 seats is not a democracy - sorry to pop that bubble. Just because your team probably won, the last time the Tories had the same and Labour voters bleated on about it and this time its OK. Welcome to the reason nothing will change for the better in the UK - different cheeks of the same arse getting voted in all the time by the same ar&&holes.
@@Silverwidows actually conservatives split the right wing vote lol. Imagine thinking cons are a rightwing party
It wasn't a Labour win, it was a Conservative loss. Labour only managed a third of the votes, but ended up winning two thirds of the seats.
I generally fail to understand why people always bring this up. "They won the game of football because they played with the rules of football. Had they played with the rules of chess, someone else would've won." No shit, but it's not a game of chess.
People don't like it? Fantastic, I don't like it either, let's change it. But there was a great chance in 2011, people voted no to it. But as long as the game is football, you need to play by its rules.
@@captainufo4587 because starmer actually won less percent compared to 2019 under Corbyn
People always say it, because it's always relevant. They're not calling for insurrection, but electoral reform.
If you're football match had the rule "the highest paid players score three for every one goal" then you would say "it's the rules, but the rules should change".
It's not complicated.
@@captainufo4587 it's not as black and white as just winning or losing, I was hinting at something more. Yes Labour won the election, but Starmer now leads a country where around 66% of the population didn't vote for him. That is going to have an impact down the line. To use your football analogy, it's like winning because the opposing team all died in the first half. Yes it's a win, technically, but did we earn it?
@@bassetts1899 and there is a reason it is done on the local level an thats why we get a BY election where the seats are up for grabs again
And now labor is trying to be even worse than the tories
Great video! So disappointed in the UK's election system. How does a party with 14.3% of the representative vote have less than 1% of the seats. Is that Democracy? The amount of tactical voting this creates is obscene. Need to follow in Europe's footsteps and develop a representative system. Labour "landslide" win with 33% of the votes...
Obviously, but no country's system is perfect. And ours is far better than that of the US.
No, it's not democracy. It's a constitutional monarchy, with a system designed to stop anti monarchist groups - traditionally socialists and fascists - from gaining enough of a foothold to ditch the Monarch.
Reform didn't deserve any seats, let alone 4.
@@EEE-1409 they deserved about 80
I know math is hard for the likes of you
@@reksapluss716 They should have gotten 80, but that doesn't mean they deserve 80.
I know English is hard for the likes of you.
The country that desperately needs a bold leader who can make radical changes, voted for a man who is afraid of being unpopular.
Reforms performance was historic.
Wirklich sehr interessant und toll aufbereitet! Greetings from Germany!
The story of Lizz Truss makes me think of the Canadian story of Kim Campbell. Both of them were extremely unpopular as the heads of failing parties in their home nations, and they were quickly removed from their positions as prime minister.
Frankly, they're basically the same. The difference is the Tories stopped offering the one thing people in this country really want - plausible deniability. People in this country are small minded, ignorant, nationalistic bigots - but they don't want to be confronted with anything that might challenge their view that they're basically good people. They vote Tory rather than say, Reform, because they want small minded, ignorant, nationalistic, bigoted policy, but they want to be able to pretend that that's not what they voted for. And when it all goes tits up, as it always does, suddenly all the people who voted Tory last time round are lifetime Labour Supporters (just so long as it's not Corbyn, or any Labour politician who's politics are substantially different from the Tories.) But after fourteen years of the tories getting more and more explicit in the evil fascist shit they wanted to do, people just can't pretend that this isn't what they voted for anymore.
Meanwhile, Labour has basically come out under Starmer and said "We're gonna do exactly the same shit the Tories wanted to do, we're gonna be just as corrupt (read: declassifying hate groups as hate groups because a rich woman told them to) but we'll do it in a way that lets you pretend that you're still a liberal, not a Conservative." The current Labour Party's politics ARE Tory politics. The current Labour Leadership stand for the same shit that the Tories do - IE, basically nothing, but with a heavy emphasis on Nationalism, Traditional Values and supporting or otherwise promoting bigotry. They aren't going to do the worst shit that the Tories would have (like literally getting rid of the Human Rights charter) but they are still willing to support hate groups, bigoted organisations, and promote nationalism - while privatising a LOT of essential shit that should belong to everyone. The same people who were getting poorer and poorer will continue to do so, the same groups being murdered in the streets will continue to do so. All this means is things get worse just a tiny bit slower, until the general public get complacent again and the Tories get back in.
This won't change anything. Nothing is going to get better. The only reason most of you seem to think this is such a game changer is because you don't belong to one of the three or four groups being scapegoated by both parties. It means nothing because no politician substantially different from this mold can ever win in this country. When offered a choice between Free Wifi and clearing Student Debt or Children drowning in the Channel and people dying in the streets, you all thought Free Wifi and clearing Student Debt sound like the worst option. Everything is fucked and nothing will change. If you gave me the money right this second I'd just leave before this nation goes full fascist.
no they resally not..perhaps you forgor how much better it was last time labour where in power if you alive back then
@@simoncox9689 Oh you mean 14 years ago? Yeah nothing in Global Politics has changed in 14 years, you're so right, there definitely haven't been multiple massive events that fundamentally changed the political landscape across the world. Silly me. Now will be just like Fourteen Years Ago.
Kamala, darling, that second have passed while I was reading that pessimistic comment. How much money do you want and there you will be going? My be I will follow. Do you prefer an island or a continent? I do not like to be called "small minded, ignorant nationalistic bigot, turning fascist". Shell I start packing the bags?😭
@@kamalalsb7292 Mate, is everyone to the left of Angela Davis and Leon Trotsky a BigOtED, wAYcIst liTtLe EnGlAnDEr to you?
Now we will never get rid of FPTP
Nah, FPTP protects us from extremist parties. Gives coherent Parliamentary opposition. Allows people to vote between people and not parties. It is one of the best form of methods for independent politicians. There is a reason most countries adopted it because for large voting - it is the best method for representation.
You could, 13 years ago. People voted 2:1 against it.
@@stuffmcstuff399 "best method of representation" How so? It is people that must be represented. That's the very point of d3m0cracy.
And what happens when 2 extr3m1st parties become the main ones like it happened in US? In that case you need to get rid of FPTP to get rid of the extr3m1sts.
Be honest with yourself. You just want to keep the status quo.
@@stuffmcstuff399 Yes, perpetual stagnation and flip flopping between two brands of the same feckless, milquetoast neoliberal ideology is the way forward.
@@Hardcore_Remixer fptp stops extremist parties.
Fingers crossed we see some real change from the Labour party! God knows we need it
Have you read ANYTHING they have put forward?!
NOTHING changes, it only ramps up..
Holy smokes, you people have no idea wtf is going on...
Nothing will change because the labour party isn't that different from the conservatives. My prediction is that the people will be disappointed and this leeds to a right wing shift. You see this everywhere in europe. A flawed democratic system and less education is to blame
@@kingbeam80ify you think the voting chose the outcome. The reason Labour lost under Corbyn was thanks to the media. Likewise why Starmer won today. Media sanctioning to relieve the political right of pressure. Exactly why Blair won in 97 and Wilson in 74
I hope there will be new change for the people in the UK w/ this new government. For too long there has been stagnation and decline and I hope it’ll be a stepping stone for the UK to bounce back.
That transition to the sponsor segment made me do a reality check. Ever since I started watching TL:DR, I really thought that those two hosts were one person.
It helps that Jack started wearing glasses.
It would help more if they put their name at the beginning of the video.
Same! It’s bad because in hindsight they look and sound so different xD
Thank you for the belly laugh at 6:11.
6:07 A wild Zak Brown has appeared 😂
Great video. I've been following it
1:00 I am not from the UK, but how can a party get ~14 percent of total votes but only four seats? Feels like the seats do not represent the share of the voters. Can someone please explain that?
Yeah, it's not very representative, a party getting 1st in a few constituencies gets them seats, but another party getting 2nd or 3rd in several constituencies gets them nothing.
First past the post - same system that the USA and Canada use. When you vote in the UK election you're voting for a local MP rather than a party leader.
There's 650 seats up for grabs in the House of Commons and a party needs a majority of 326 to form the government.
Let's say there's 4 seats.
Seat 1: Party A - 16k votes, Party B 15k votes
Seat 2: Party A - 16k votes, Party B 15k votes
Seat 3: Party A - 16k votes, Party B 15k votes
Seat 4: Party A - 5k votes, Party B 30k votes
Party B got 75k votes across those 4 seats compared to Party A who only managed 53k votes, but Party A won 3 of those seat races.
Reform got more votes overall than the Lib Dems, but the Lib Dems focused on campaigning certain areas which would translate into more seats.
Reform also came second in a lot of races and were the only right wing alternative to the Conservative Party which meant the vote split in many seats.
@@battlep0tso who is the opposition Now Reform or Conservative i mean if all those seats they came in second place that will benefit them in the next election
Thank u everyone for the reponses, I got it!
cabinets actually showing a carpenter
Wise words.
Things can only get better
@@kevinh4869 Indeed, they can also get a whole lot worse.
At least that's less likely under Starmer than Sunak, or god forbid reform
Yeah, I cannot wait to see the immigration numbers moving forward..
The only bright side is that not even YOU people will be able to ignore it now..
they'll get worse less quickly under Labour
Reform are the worst. The party is full of liers and Descrimination
@@kevinh4869 absolutely not. Their manifesto might as well be toilet paper. Wishful spending funded by some vague promise of "government cuts".
The multiparty parliamentary system of British politics / governance is very fascinating to me. As an American myself it is largely alien from my perspective in relation to my view of the American political machine but it is nonetheless very interesting in seeing the mechanisms of power at work within other nations governments. Thanks for the great video.
Larry is the representative for Downing Street.
33.8% of votes getting 63% of the seats. First-past-the-post moment.
The greatest moment in electoral politics happened