Hedonites of Slaanesh vs Slaves to Darkness | Warhammer: Age of Sigmar Battle Report

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Комментарии • 52

  • @melchoriuz8116
    @melchoriuz8116 11 месяцев назад +30

    Guys you are by far the best AOS Battle report channel - your speaker and your explanations are outstanding. Keep going.

    • @SeasonofWar
      @SeasonofWar  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for the kind words!

  • @anactualdino
    @anactualdino 11 месяцев назад +5

    21:00 (a full 10 seconds of silence as the archers roll their billion shots) "... The Blissbarb Archers deal..."

  • @qhalo13
    @qhalo13 11 месяцев назад +6

    "always down for a double" LMAO

  • @EtharealBTB
    @EtharealBTB 11 месяцев назад +8

    I love to see Slaanesh, but I really hate the Blissbarb spam list. #makechariotsgreatagain

    • @ands1983
      @ands1983 11 месяцев назад

      It's not chariots they need to work on, it's daemonettes and seekers, cause we need 3 battlelines.

  • @Jesyce86
    @Jesyce86 11 месяцев назад +4

    Bel'kor is down to 340 pts now, still says 355 in the start.
    He also heals D3 when the varanguard flees to battleshock - Great game :)

    • @bramraets2094
      @bramraets2094 11 месяцев назад

      I came to comment the same thing!

  • @minacapella8319
    @minacapella8319 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great game. Good to see s2d doing what they're best at: dishing out misery while shrugging off more than should be possible.

  • @JackCawood
    @JackCawood 11 месяцев назад +14

    I really want Slaanesh melee options to come down in points. There are some interesting scrolls there, but they are just too many points.

    • @NoRend1Damage
      @NoRend1Damage 11 месяцев назад +2

      Twinsouls work wonders for me! 🎉

  • @BlackV8SS
    @BlackV8SS 11 месяцев назад +4

    Jordan: Trust me, play conservatively
    Ridge: That's for schoolgirls. Now here's a route with some chest hair!

    • @ands1983
      @ands1983 11 месяцев назад

      And a loss. Hedonites doesn’t have any troops they can afford to sacrifice.
      Their battleline is expensive and important damage dealers.
      Their melee options only work if their target dies as they folk when receiving return damage.
      The demons are trash cause GW has hated them since they got their first battletome and actually worked. Since then they got nerfed into oblivion.

  • @eldarian1983
    @eldarian1983 11 месяцев назад +1

    Same STD list except Lord on daemonic steed, and 2x units of unmade, now 2k on the nose. Works really well, turning off redeploy is huge.

  • @GreyvaxTV
    @GreyvaxTV 11 месяцев назад +4

    i'm gonna play this kind of Slaanesh list this week-end at the Belgium GT, i dont play with Enrapturess, and the 2x5 Slickblade but i have 5 blisbard seekers for the -1 save and 6 Feinds

    • @ands1983
      @ands1983 11 месяцев назад +1

      Slickblades can do a lot of damage.
      The trick is to fight the right units with them. Damage 1 means you don't kill a lot, but rend 2 means you get the damage through.
      They can generate a lot of DP.
      Against StD knights army I'd have screened with the 10 blissbarbs and kept some slickblades ready to charge.
      You really need that -1 to hit fast.

    • @GreyvaxTV
      @GreyvaxTV 11 месяцев назад

      @@ands1983 I played a miror match against a Slaanesh, he has exactly the same list in this video, we played on the scenario "Every Step is Forward", both armies in one drop, i one the roll so i decided to deploy first, very defensive and out of range of his run/move + shoot. his sicklade did a good work but not enough for the win cause killed his 50 blissbards in one turn. at the end, we drawed the game cause i've spent to much time and i was out of clock and i did 2 terrible mistakes and i lost like 6 points in 2 rounds :/ otherwise it was a free win for me. i was lucky to one the dice roll for deploy!
      About this list, i'm agree with you and i will try this one this week-end and maybe for the next tournament. (sorry for my weird english)

  • @marcinkarolczak
    @marcinkarolczak 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'm quite new to the game but in 15:17 should it not be 3 eye of the gods rolls? 2 for Chaos Lord on Karkadrak (killing enemy hero in this case Contorted Epitome and taking over objective) and for Chaos Sorcerer Lord for taking over objective or I'm wrong?

    • @SeasonofWar
      @SeasonofWar  11 месяцев назад +3

      You're correct - I forgot the one for killing the Epitome!

  • @andreabentivoglio764
    @andreabentivoglio764 11 месяцев назад +2

    I don 't get just one thing, why didn't you put Blissbarb Archers 3" behind your line of Bissbard seekers in the deployment to have a triple unleash hell on the charge that you knew would have come in the first turn cause you decide the prio, even with a double pile in you still would have taken out a lot of knight/varanguard for probably just one unit of archers and one of seekers. Anyway thank you for all the great content that you create every week♥

    • @SeasonofWar
      @SeasonofWar  11 месяцев назад +3

      20 Blissbarbs might kill 1 or 2 Nurgle Knights (with Mystic Shield) in Unleash Hell, not really worth the risk of then just losing the whole unit.

  • @GeneralPuni
    @GeneralPuni 11 месяцев назад +3

    After a charge, are the std units getting strike first? At 14:04 chaos lord on krakadrak and varanguard charge in to where CL kills the epitome and then immediately after the 1st unit of varanguard kills the seekers without them even getting a chance to activate?
    Is there a rule I’m missing with StD or charging giving strike first?

    • @SeasonofWar
      @SeasonofWar  11 месяцев назад +4

      The Chaos Lord on Karkadrak get's Strike-First when he charges, and after he activates he can immediately activate the Chaos Warriors. Since this happens during the 'start of the phase', during the normal phase on the Slaves turn they're then able to choose the Varanguard as the first 'normal' selection!

    • @GeneralPuni
      @GeneralPuni 11 месяцев назад

      @@SeasonofWar ah I see! Not a bad combo then! My friend plays StD and I think he forgets that with with chaos lord 🫠 thanks for the heads up! I’ll let him know too!

  • @BrutalDamage
    @BrutalDamage 11 месяцев назад +3

    Awesome game doods!

  • @WarsmithHuggy
    @WarsmithHuggy 11 месяцев назад

    So I have just dug out my old Fantasy Warriors of Chaos and have rebased them, jumping into AoS 3.0 I look forward to it

  • @infiernosaxx2548
    @infiernosaxx2548 11 месяцев назад +1

    How did the chaos knights get to charge and use at the double/run in the same turn when marked as nurgle?

    • @patrickhudson4188
      @patrickhudson4188 11 месяцев назад +7

      Knights of the empty throne lets you run and charge mounted units

    • @infiernosaxx2548
      @infiernosaxx2548 11 месяцев назад

      ​@patrickhudson4188 ahh, I forgot about that. Thank you

  • @tizianomerello6530
    @tizianomerello6530 11 месяцев назад +1

    You got 1 unit as general to do 5+rally right? How it works? On aos app you can put them as general but they dont count as leader...

    • @SeasonofWar
      @SeasonofWar  11 месяцев назад +1

      Not super sure what your question is - if they issue Rally, Varanguard get it on a 5+

    • @tizianomerello6530
      @tizianomerello6530 11 месяцев назад

      @@SeasonofWar ye sorry for english;) on aos app when I build army my varanguard general should be considered as leader, but app still consider that battleline:(

  • @lucahappel
    @lucahappel 11 месяцев назад

    Looking forward to watching this one now!

  • @voice9893
    @voice9893 11 месяцев назад +1

    Sad to See Same pretender list all the time. Was really hoping you Guys would try Something Like pretenders Double hurdle with Wagons or Keeper sigvald in speedchaser.
    Maybe next time some more meelee Variant than bows vs horses. 😅

    • @SeasonofWar
      @SeasonofWar  11 месяцев назад +2

      We'd love to, we just don't have the models/units painted yet - working on expanding 16+ armies, we can only get so much done. :')

    • @voice9893
      @voice9893 11 месяцев назад

      @@SeasonofWar i still Love you Guys 🙂 and i am Not regretting my membership 🤗. Was cool to See slaanesh Back on the Channel and i Unserstand you completly 🙂. Not Said Another slaanesh list would have performed better than this.
      Could think about of asking some good Players to collaborate for a battlereport as Well i am Sure you have some slaanesh contacts 😉.
      Thanks for all the Produktion value Guys ❤️

    • @ands1983
      @ands1983 11 месяцев назад

      The battletome doesn’t have any other options. The other battlelines are trash as the demons plain suck.
      No amount of pts drops will fix it, but the increases will definitely ruin it.

    • @voice9893
      @voice9893 11 месяцев назад

      @@ands1983 in invaders you get all Heroes General meaning you unlock twinsouls as Battleline Without paying the tax of loosing your General trait to a 6 wound Hero. But yeah they are still pricey with 140 Points. And seekers are good

  • @ands1983
    @ands1983 11 месяцев назад +1

    Unfortunately this game represents the issue with both armies and how they are barely playable outside of these meta lists.
    A few tough, fast units like this StD army is the worst matchup for Hedonites and they need to play extremely conservatively to slowly rack up the blissbarb damage.

  • @petewinfield1
    @petewinfield1 11 месяцев назад +2

    How do Slaanesh unleash hell twice?

    • @freelancermeta
      @freelancermeta 11 месяцев назад +1

      The Pretenders subfaction allows commands to be issued up to 3 times.

  • @riccardob.6226
    @riccardob.6226 11 месяцев назад +1

    be'lakor 355? not 340?

    • @Kinhussar
      @Kinhussar 11 месяцев назад

      got seduced pre battle. lore friendly wargaming here

    • @Snopple
      @Snopple 11 месяцев назад

      true

  • @Rd0Lg
    @Rd0Lg 11 месяцев назад

    I really hope Blissbarb Archers would be errata'd to be worse. It's absurd seeing pretty much every list using 40+ of them.

    • @SeasonofWar
      @SeasonofWar  11 месяцев назад +2

      As we talk about, 40-50+ really isn't worth it anymore imo

    • @FrAnDrAL
      @FrAnDrAL 11 месяцев назад

      Well the army is not exactly at the top, worsening its best unit I don't think is correct, it would be much better to improve the rest of the units, the archer spam has gone up in points already

    • @voice9893
      @voice9893 11 месяцев назад +1

      Problem isnt that they are good or stuff. But rather demonates suck and all the conditional Battleline requires Lord of pain to be General and thats a waste of a command trait. Leaning you with seeker which are lovely.
      Would be cool to See AoS adapt the Rule of 3 in 40k. So only 3x the Same unit (reinforcements also Count in).
      Would Stop Spamming list Like thunderey, varanguard, blissbarbs, eels etc. And give the Army Matches a more balanced feel imo.
      Also GW wont Change warscrolls that much so they allways Just counter it with Points increases Without giving any meaningfull alternative.
      I think rule of 3 would be great for AoS also would prevent the feel Bad Moment of having to buy multiple Times the Same unit aka Spam If you wanna exploit stuff and than sitting on the Minis once the pointnerf Hits the Major list.
      Most of my List contain 22 archers and its Not to oppressive

    • @ands1983
      @ands1983 11 месяцев назад

      Don't worry, GW will have them so pts nerfed that the army fall from top to bottom of winrate again.
      GW doesn't understand that increasing blissbarbs points will just remove the army from the competitive scene as the rest of the units have horrible warscrolls.
      The battletome has 1 useable sub-faction, even the artifacts are way better, and the warscrolls for the demons are downright crap.

  • @zebposada
    @zebposada 11 месяцев назад +2

    Slaves to Darkness has become so boring. Slaves to Varanguard.

  • @quinnreid1209
    @quinnreid1209 11 месяцев назад

    Epitome does like nothing in combat 🤭 that was silly

    • @ands1983
      @ands1983 11 месяцев назад

      Not against chaos knights. It needs to be hitting weaker units.