Game of Thrones: How the 'Bells' Moment Should Have Gone
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2019
- WARNING, MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR GoT 8x5.
A quick edit of how I (and seemingly many others) would have personally preferred the Dany snapping scene go. I feel like her destroying the Red Keep after the Lannister army surrendered would have been shocking enough and made her scary without being too over the top and unbelievable for her character. There would still be civilian casualties, but she wouldn't be deliberately massacring them by the tens of thousands for no reason. Maybe she could even do a few strafing runs of fire on her way to the Keep, like she does in the show. But she would not meticulously burn the whole city down, in a seemingly endless rage (you'd think she'd get her anger out after burning a couple of thousand civilians?)
To be clear as some people seem confused: I have nothing against the idea of Dany becoming Mad Queen and killing innocents as a concept. Honestly I was kind of looking forward to it. I'm sure George would do it well in his books (if he ever finishes them, which I honestly doubt at this point) and even D&D could have done it just fine, had they not rushed the show in the last seasons. The intention of the story is good, and the potential of that "messiah turns into a monster" story is great. And yes, Dany's arc has clearly shown her become more and more ruthless over the seasons, so there has been a slow build to this.
What I do have a problem with is how the conclusion of that arc was executed. It felt like they had done steps 1 to 6 carefully and then skipped over 7 and 8 to rush 9 and 10. And when it's as big of a character development as this, you just can't rush it. It's why all the bad shit someone like Walter White does in the show Breaking Bad still feels believable, as we always understand his reasons and see how he slowly got to that point, even if we might disagree with his actions. This just wasn't the case with Dany.
And honestly, this scene was just the boiling point for a show riddled with bad writing in its later seasons. It is not the reason I hate Season 8. It's just a scene with a cool idea done poorly, surrounded by mountains of shit. And the only reason I made this video is because it was something quick and easy to do.
As a final note: If you liked how the last season was done, that's fine. This is just my opinion.
All footage belongs to HBO. This video is for commentary purposes only. 
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By chosing to burn the Iron Throne and the red keep, she could have actually broken the wheel. 🥲
You don’t break the wheel ever. Where there is a power vacuum and opportunity, there will always be another asshole trying to control everything. The question is what is less bloody in the long run? Dozens of independent kingdoms all warring with each other constantly or a united realm where the enemy becomes corruption and internal strife? Keeping the empire intact was the lesser of 2 evils
And Dany of all people knew that after what happened in Astapor.
Her burning the whole city instead of going right to Cersei made absolutely 0 sense. Killing innocent people and giving Cersei time to escape? Lol cmon
It shows how she was losing her mind and turning into someone just like her father.
@@oliviayoung6471 stfu & stop making excuses for dumb & dumber
@@shuayb838 they’re not but it’s a fact
GOT is not what u expect, it’s what u don’t expect.
@@oliviayoung6471 Thats just horrible writing stop trying to defend this shit
That's exactly what I thought it would of been, her burning the red keep and killing only those who had a hand in murdering her dragon and best friend, god I hate this last season so much
The Daenerys i've learned to admire would've done that. I don't know who that is
me too
This makes so much more sense! She destroyed the Keep and people died accidentally. Maybe the wildfire could explode setting some of the city on fire too. But anything else makes no sense.
It was the true ending, DeD modified it
If George fails to finish the series, this is the only ending we’ll ever get.
Not true! Martin has assured us that, should he pass away before finishing the series, his assistants (who have access to all of his documents and know every detail of his plans) will do so on his behalf. If Martin has faith in their capabilities then so do I. It won't be the same, but we'll have his ending.
@@summersolemnlyswears7272 I’m not sure where you heard that. He said so in an interview that he doesn’t want anyone touching his work else it will turn into “Scarlett.” Even if he does pass it on, you’ll have folks arguing for years what’s canon and not because it wasn’t written by Martin.
This is actually the ending George told to the two showrunners but they did it very badly 😂
@@abandonallhope.1040George told some people and the showrunners his ending. So this will be the ending in the books but different since the books are different.
Ah yes, the true ending. The only ending. No other ending in existence.
There is no season 8 in King's Landing.
D&D skull fucked this scene so badly - literally, all the fans refuse to accept it as canon xD
This is just semi-canon, since Emilia didn't even filmed the part where "she" burned KG with Drogon
After multiple watches - I get it. Here’s my interpretation:
Think back to when she took over (liberated) Mereen.. how the people welcomed her. They chanted “Mhysa” and wanted to touch her. Here, the people were screaming and crying. They were scared of her. She didn’t have their love and adoration.
She even looks more upset when the bells go off. To me, it’s because the bells signify mercy. The people are asking for mercy from a conquerer. Not freedom from a savior.. which is what she thought she was.
She lost two dragons, two friends, and most of her allies for this… for people crying for mercy FROM her and unable to see she was their salvation from Cersei (in her mind) .
I never minded she went mad in the end. I loved her even then. But it was so rushed that it took a lot of rewatching to kinda piece together what was going on in her mind. At least, what I think was going on lol
Yes, the problem was not the scene itself but the directors did not prepare us for this scene properly
@@Anna-fi5hm 100%
It was such an after thought. You can see they were trying so hard to add in these subtle hints to “make it make sense”.
I really would have loved a whole season of her “mad” arc.
FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT!!! I loved her still after this happened! A lot of things happens to her! Thank you!!!
The scene in the series just made no sense whatsoever. A complete failure of writing. She was about liberating the people, and breaking the wheel, not killing the people. The only way this should have gone down is for her to go straight to the red keep and burn it to the ground. That’s the only way this could have made sense.
The point was that it's dangerous for one person to think he/she can be the liberator. Dictatorships rarely end well. It was a great idea, it just needed time to show how dictators become horrible people over time. I think this is why G.R.R. Martin can't finish the books, it's hard to execute the ending he wants, which is you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.
@@baxakk7374 that may be the point, but 7 seasons’ worth of character development for Daenerys was obliterated by this moment which had no lead-in. Strong, stable Dany suddenly had a “woman scorned” moment? Anyone can theorize as to why she did this; however, with good writing and execution it would have been crystal-clear that this was the only possible outcome, but the narration did not provide that.
@@ramotcontrol They should have made it clear that the people attacked her first, by saving Rhaegal's death until this battle - perhaps they would conquer KL bloodlessly only for the Cersei loyalists to swarm on him and tear him apart (taking advantage of his Winterfell wing injury) once they landed.
That would have been a suitable parallel to the people's adoration she received in Yunkai, and would have reinforced the message that you can't base your decisions on your popularity.
Also if she had just incinerated a crowd of a thousand or so Cersei loyalists and their children, partly in angry grief, partly because of her established rigid sense of justice, and partly as a deterrent against future attack, that would still have been enough to enrage Jon.
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I also would have cut out the Tyrion/Jon scene entirely, so that Jon stabbing Dany would have come as a complete surprise to the audience, and given him more agency.
And she would have lived just long enough to ask why, and to hear him respond 'to save my people'.
To me makes sense she would became an tyrant, because was tha path she was going since season 2. But no sense to kill the whole town instead of burn the red keep only.
She did broke the wheel and everything. Lol
They destroyed one of the best series in history. The last season was pure trash
That’s such a forced opinion it was honestly really good and the shocking ending fit the whole dark vibe of Game Of Thrones. Like no body cares for a happy ending anymore everything always has the expected ending I’m happy they didn’t force it
@@user-ml8pu what do you work for HBO😂. The last season was pure trash.
@@AC-sq1gt he's right tho
@@hugosantos9081 I don't know if anybody cares about a happy ending or not but people do care about an ending that sucks and that whole last season sucked especially the ending
@@AC-sq1gt the last season is rushed, that's its only problem
The person they tried killing since birth came back and gave them the business, imagine that.
It would feel so amazing to See cersei's despaired eyes when she saw daenarys aproaching to her personallt.. instead of killing inocent people
Exactly. I get that this was GRR Martin's intention from the get go, but from the context on the show it just didn't make enough sense that she immediately turned into a "mad queen".
Indeed..a girl who survived to the loss of a husband, a son and to wars and killing attempts would get all mad cause she has a half brother who doesn't even care about the throne and does not represents any threat to her position
Exactly what she should’ve done. Gone for the keep
She should've done that in S7 with all 3 of her dragons, Dorne, the Reach and the Greyjoys. It would fall in a day but no....
I think dany done justice the people over there cheered and laugh when ned stark was beheaded
Lol, Danny called Ned Stark the usurpers's dog, so stop using that argument buddy, find a new one.
@@michaelnkomphela8231 Because she was told he was.
At the current point in the novels (and as of this point in the books), Dany never set foot on Westeros. She’s met very few people from there. Almost all of the information she has comes from Viserys, who’s far from an unbiased narrator. (Viserys himself never laid eyes on Ned, and only knows what he heard from his family and their retainers).
@@manishbait6718 umm when B. Selmey wants to talk to her about Ned Stark she told Selmy to SHUT UP.
@@michaelnkomphela8231 bruh she didn't even know the man personally, that's not an argument
She didn't give a flying f about Ned.
Rewatching season 7 and you could already tell that they had no plans to stick the landing.Somehow in the span of hours gendry makes it to eastwatch tells them to send a raven it gets to daenarys and she brings her dragons thousands of miles in the span of like 8 hrs
Dragons are the gulfstreams of the fantasy world m8
thank you! that made absolutely no sense. also how Gendry survived that run back when that was his first experience with snow
And dont forget the white walkers somehow get a big ass chain to pull a dragon out from under the ice
@@ssplif5415 you could make an argument that the night king foresaw a dragon coming and had them if he had the chance to kill one.Yes I do agree it is stupid though
episode 6 should’ve been 2 episodes end the 1st with daenerys leaving dragonstonw than a week of anticipation to see if she makes it in town so it wasn’t all so sudden
THAT'S IT
She should (and would) have destroyed ONLY the Red Keep
Actually it was in the real script, by d&d decided to change because they thought Dany's death wouldn't be OK and she wouldn't be perceived as bad if she only had destroyed the rk
Emilia Clarke only filmed that part actually, the part where Drogon burns KL is without her, if you look closely there are no one riding him
this ending would have been somewhat the best one. Even better if Varys didn't betray her, Jorah, Rhaegal and Missandae didn't die etc. Either way, Dany would've made a great queen, and the people of Kingslanding would have remembered this day, as the day Dany flew Drogon over them, straight to the red keep, and hunted Cercei down and killed her. That day would be remembered by the people of Westeros as the day Dany broke the wheel and freed all of them from Cercei's rule.
Watching this again after years and I still feel like this is amazingly done. The wrath of a woman unleashed , unhinged, is a powerful destructive force and it’s been so well depicted here.
The wrath of a woman- someone unable to handle their emotions and everyone around them suffers greatly.
No one is safe in a matriarchy.
My thoughts exactly. I so so so wanted her to get to the throne.
Cersi was using the people as a shield, she knew Daenerys had a good heart (freeing slaves etc) so Cersi spread lies about Daenerys and the ignorant ppl bought it. Cersi knew if Daenerys army was to reach the red keep, they would have to kill even the innocent ppl that had filled the streets.
(They rejoiced when good ppl were killed before). So Daenerys made a decision to teach them all a lesson. She couldn't rule over ppl who didn't want to be free.
(Remember all through she gave free will to slaves and they chose their own freedom).
The only part where i found she had gone too far was the breaking the wheel. She wanted to concquer all the territories like she had done to kings landing. That's also the point when John Snow decided to kill her.
it starts with the fact that (for no reason) in the battle for Kings Landing Drogon started to spit explosives instead of normal fire like he did in the battle against the night king and the entire series up to this point. It's a shame how they threw away character developement and storytelling for pure action and decided that Dany would burn everything to ashes because they were too lazy to think of a proper ending. I can just congratulate every Star Wars fan that the Producers there decided not to let their universe get destroyed by Dumb&Dumber, too.
For such a seemingly noble altruistic would be liberator,she sure went psycho in a sudden manner.
Unrealistic portrayal of homicidal thought processes. That kind of thinking doesn't happen instantly, like flipping a switch, and someone that loved children as much as Dany did,would never suddenly decide to burn them alive.
new series does put a smile on my face so glad derp & derp aren’t involved
If you're talking about House of The Dragon...I agree....I read Fire and Blood..(and also Game of Thrones book series) ...I was told while reading the books...not to bother with the TV show...I only watched clips of it 😊
absolutely!
As much as I hated seeing her burn the city I loved it too. I love anytime Drogon goes nuts with his fire I mean, I do love dragons
She just following what her fathers last command was. “Burn them All!”
She took what Olenna said about the people being sheep to heart. And therefore just let all the bad things take her.
That and dive bombing the Red Keep would have made it cave inwards and minimize outward damage.
I didn't watch this season (thankfully) so I just imagine in this scene all the characters realize that what's been happening for the past three seasons is complete nonsense, so they just stare in shock at the mess that's been created, and then Dany's just like "yeah, nope, time to burn this shit down". Also, another sincere question: do the characters still speak in the final season or do they just stare at each other intensely while waiting for something interesting to happen?
Well Jon says "She's our Queen!" a lot.
They actually do speak
@@Silver_Owl UHH DOAN WANT IT SHES MUH KWEEN
@@jzenhenko LOL! Exactly. Followed, admittedly, by the occasional stare.
Some robotic speech and Jon saying:she mah qeeeen.
I didn't exactly hate that she snapped. It was always going to be the idea. And her just obliterating King's Landing is absolutely the jaw drop that was needed to drive it home. But a snap to THAT degree needed more planning and building. Like something to suggest she was beginning to see King's Landing citizens almost to the same level of disgust as she saw Cersei. As it was, it was just too rushed and nonsensical.
My thoughts exactly.
The idea was nice (and even the books hint at that), it's the execution that is poor to say the least.
the moment the lannister army threw their swords it was supposed to end right there with no massacres. After that its a fight in the hallways with its Sandor vs his zombie brother or jaime dying in cerseis arms in the fighting defending her.
Well we glad you are in control of an army understand war is war
@@raymondwimbush9240 The Laws of War (Geneva convention) were created for exactly these moments wen blood ran too hot for temper and it's the officers duty to restrain their men from commiting war crimes
Would still have been better of Drogon cut off both Jaime and Sandor to that imo? Them trying to force open a gate, which gets half-smashed by Drogon's tail..yet the Dragon is much quicker to the last steps of the Red Keep, then Jaime or Sandor...There Cersei attempts to flee with Qyuburn, and the zombified Mountain as her protector. Drogon unleashing a full brath of dragonfire upon them, reducing Qyburn and Cersei to ashes instantly...to Jaimes shock and horror... the Mountain burning in his armor, falling into a pile of smoldering rotting flesh, putting a smile on the Hound's scarred face, who softly speaks 'yes big brother.. tháts what it feels like'...although robber of his personal revenge, the Hound can live with the fact he SAW his brother die the gruesome death he deserved right before his eyes.
Yup, they really strung us along! Made me feel like I wasted time and money, to say the least.
Yes ! 😭 What we're those guys thinking?!?!
Oh my god, this is the perfect ending! This was how she had to go, although I understand the pain and the reasons that led Dany to take revenge, she was not a butcher but a true queen. They made a terrible mistake by ruining the ending!
No, the transformation is necessary in this kind of characters. It was very similar with Walter White in Breaking Bad, a good teacher that had a lovely family and afterwards he ended up as a powerful drug lord. It was very predictable her fate. In the last season she burned Sam's father and brother just because they were loyal to the kindom. She also killed people just because she wanted, she became a killer in the process and the audience couldn't realize it.
At this point going straight to Cersei was the only agenda,,,not burning the whole city down
Only burning cersei
Tgank you for that
I think Dany becoming a Mad Queen could’ve been a cool story, if done well, but I’d still rather have her as the hero. I think if it was done like it is in the video, she could’ve learned from her mistakes and still end up sitting on the Iron Throne as a just queen.
Why couldn't they make it like that? why? WHYYYYYY
Because they were inspired by Cruella when she became mad after hearing bells ringing (Ig you've seen the movie) and thought,well that's great ending but didn't think that nothing made sense
Think of the budget that went into creating the spectacle of her destroying the city.... talk about screwed up priorities by D and D.
You should do the whole scene like this.
from where is that scene (red keep being destroyed by the dragon) ?
This is now canon
This is what should of happened!! Great video
“If you think there’s a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention”. I saw her turning when bariston selmy tried to convince her not to crucify the masters. Then again when she burned the masters for the sons of the harpy killing bariston, then I saw it coming AGAIN when she burned Randall Tarly and DICKON Tarly.
That was amazing
a little edit and it makes the scene more enjoyable and make sense.
It would be much better this way, sadly it is not like this in the GOT
Agree, your take is a much better ending.👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏼🌎✌🏼
Drogon seems to be the size of Meleys the Red Queen, how is this possible? But Meleys was at least 75yrs old, even if Drogon is a big boy at most he should just be the size of Vermax or Arrax as he's only 5yrs old.
2:38
Dany-Oh..SORRY ABOUT THAT! MY BAD!
This should have been the ending. That way there could have been a sensible sequel. The writers deserve total ridicule.
100% I loved her character they made her to be an evil person…..
She was like Nero, burn the old Rome to build a new Rome with her will. I got it. Better hate her than love her.
This scene would've made so much sense if it had proper build-up.
Daenerys going insane was a valid plot point that could have been brought forward.
Not some random thing that happens in the last two episodes.
This would have been so boring. She was clearly going to kill the men in iron suits and tear down their stone houses since s1. I'm glad we got tyrant Dany in s8. The only win we got in the fina season
I just realized at 2:43 that they used the opening thingy in the background
What sent her over the edge wasn't missandi or the bells... It was the smell XD
I can only hope on of two options come alive
1. season 8 gets shot new with the old cast and a new story
2. or a remake with another great cast and a new story.
If any fan (1.5 million) donates 50 dollars we should have 75 million. That should do.
We need another ending. For Daenerys to go mad makes very little to no sense at all. She wanted to be different...
This would have made so much more sense
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FUCK YEAH this is how it should have ended!! It makes no sense why she didn't just rip Cersei out root and stem!
the writers wanted the moment but they didnt earn it
Dany and Cersei should've had a proper fight, then Arya turns up at the end to finish Cersei off, then they all live happily ever after. but NO!
They should know who to blame when the sky falls down upon them! and she was not playing!
funny how fire acts like a lazer beam against granite, stone ,brick etc etc
Is it possible she had a PTSD response? The bells when during the war where she was whisked away? Not sure on the lore of it all, but it seems like when the bells rung she changed
Soo she never heard a bell in her life before this?
@@tonisiljeg6409 her first time back in kings landing, remember?
The surrender bells are very specific
She wasn't even alive then, she was born in Dragonstone few days later..so she shouldn't have any memories or buried feelings regarding kings landing
i still dont understand why there were no scorpion spears in and around the castle to protect Cersei
am i making sense here? and there should have been a night battle scene where the scorpions are lit in fire
ive always wondered how dany was able to ride her dragon..look at thise spikes on the back
wild fire caches all over the city, THINK
daenerys ride dragon
cersei :)
daenerys ride dragon at kings landing
cersei T_T
I just pretend like I didn't see the last season. It was just a bad dream.
Who finds this show near impossible to watch again knowing the last two seasons were so bad?
A dragon is not a pet drogon lost everything he wanted to burn everything remember the people hated him and Daenerys said go ahead
another great ending would be with addition of only one scene.
after the bells ring, danny goes to the gates, retreating where the idiot commander of golden company foolishly kills grey worm, danny sees it from the air and turns back to burn the city.
I reckon this is the scene is why Martin is spend so long writing last 2 books. He didnt like the receptions so hes re writing them for a more palatable ending
Ah now that's the ending we deserved
I still think Ayre Stark should of come out on top she was genuinly the toughest in the group and a survivor. Beheading her sister as the finally and holding it up to tje crowd.
Yes, this has more sense than the garbage they gave us.
thats an insult to garbage even... i wiped my arse this morning, and what was on the toiletpaper looked better then S8...
What do the bells mean? Is it the city surrendering?
Yes. Even though the show contradicted itself by doing that, because in season 2 there's a line "I have never known bells to mean surrender".
@@nezfromhki lol and Dan and David remembered season 2? Hilarious.
Shame they never made a point last time those bells rang targs and loyal followers all slain in the thousands too...by lannister and tarlys others too but
Why they fight
Those who prefer this version forgot which show they were watching. Maybe it's because they came into GOT late or maybe they got used to D&D's popcorn GOT version but Dany ending it peacefully just wouldn't have made sense.
First of all, I started watching back in Season 4 (which was the last great season) and I've read all of the books. So don't assume I'm someone who came in "late" or who someone who enjoys popcorn writing (which in itself is a contradiction: you're defending their version while also calling it 'popcorn GOT"?)
Secondly, how is this "ending it peacefully"? My aim was to create a more plausible option for the version of Dany they had written: she wouldn't just go mindlessly targeting civilians for no good reason, but would still attack even after the city had surrendered. She woulld still have done something dishonoroble, unnecessary and scary (as innocent civilians would have died as collateral damage) without it being so ridiculous and over the top. In my version, Dany would have obliterated the Red Keep, killing anyone inside it and people around it. I could not convey all of it as I would have liked because I was just making a quick edit using existing footage.
My problem isn't the fact that Dany went crazy. It's not even the fact that she did what she did. It's more that the build up to it happening and everything around it was so poorly written and rushed that it feels forced. I feel like at least this version would have been a bit more reasonable and believable without sacrificing the arc they were going for: Dany becoming a tyrant.
@@nezfromhki I didn't assume anything. I included a conditional 'maybe' in my sentence as I didn't think my list was exhaustive. It did make me smile though when you protested at me making the assumption and then stated that you indeed came in late. Though you have read the books which probably gives you a better knowledge of the material than people who binged watched 5 or 6 seasons to catch up.
It's not a contradiction at all. I don't consider the concept of 'the mad queen' to be popcorn in of itself. In fact there's every reason to believe that it would have happened in the books and I wouldn't have been surprised to see it there. There were enough hints and as I understand it GM gave D&D a rough outline of where the characters would end up. When I was talking about their popcorn style of writing I was talking about their 'that's cool bro' level of maturity with regards to plot. Such as their ninja turtles-girls fighting is cool sand snakes, their over reliance on the fake death scene, their incorporation of memes into the story etc.
It's relatively peaceful. The vast majority of civilians are not burned to death and less chance of Unsullied and Northmen on the rampage. The destruction of the red keep could be argued was a legitimate military target and the civilians who were caught up in that 'collateral damage' (something accepted by governments even today!). Afterwards there are virtually no burnt bodies littering the streets, less chance of a tyrant's speech and I don't think Dany would have been stabbed to death by Jon. I'd call your version peaceful by comparison.
I have a problem with the notion of Dany going crazy (it even says so on the wiki). She wasn't mad, her father was mad. He believed that he would die in fire and be reborn a dragon if memory serves. That's madness. If Tywin, Roose Bolton or Stannis had been on a dragon with that power I think they would have done the same thing. Were they crazy?
Oh yes the series was definitely rushed, but I think her burning King's Landing to the ground was one of the least rushed things in the series with enough hints and foreshadowing to justify it For me it was more jolting what she did in Merreen. I also would have liked to have seen another season of Daenerys as a tyrant.
@@redplague Eh, I don't have the energy to argue or debate about a video I made 2 years ago that was never meant to get this much publicity. The last thing I'll say is that no amount of hinting or foreshadowing is a justification for rushed character development. Dany's whole deal was always that she wanted to help the poor, ordinary people, and she only did ruthless acts against people that were directly opposed to her. And she always had a reason for doing it, even if you could sometimed argue that it was not the best choice (like burning the Tyrells for example.) Her deciding to just slaughter a city full of civilians when she faced no more opposition is too drastic of a flip for her when the show did not have her (knowingly) kill innocent people prior to it.
The scene we got would have been acceptable for me in a show where they took their time to truly tell her arc in a beliavable way instead of rushing the last seasons just because they were tired of writing it (as they could have gotten more episodes and seasons had they asked for it.) But that's not the show we got, and therefore the scene did not work, no matter how much it aligns with the original intention of the author.
As cliche as it sounds: It's not about the destination, it's about the journey.
I agree,she was patient long enough,lost so much,I wonder how she didn't snappy even before. This is what true Targaryen looks like after you take them for granted.
@@nezfromhki A lot of people did a lot of bad things for 'reasons' so that means nothing.
It's not true that she only did ruthless things against people who directly opposed her and even she did you gloss over this ruthlessness as if it's not character development building to what she did in the end. Would Ned Stark have indiscriminately crucified slave masters because they did it to children? She did this and it became clear afterwards that some (and maybe a lot) were not responsible for this but she didn't check and nor did she care. In her eyes they were culpable because they were part of a population that were not opposed to it. She used the same justification with King's Landing, that the people because they didn't rebel against Cersei were her enemy. She also had a huge insecurity about the fact that the people of Westeros didn't see her as a liberator. This was well established so there was character development, you just missed it.
She also indiscriminately burned a person alive in the pyramid because she believed that some of the people were involved with the Sons of the Harpy. She didn't know who, she just picked a person at random.
You gloss over the burning of the Tarly's but I think this deserves more consideration. I'm not talking here about the argument of killing vs not killing. I'm talking about the method of death. She chose to burn them alive. What Joffrey did to Ned Stark was less brutal. What she did there was closer to Ramsay flaying people. So again there was plenty of character development but you either missed it or forgot what the show was about.
Add to all this, the death of two of her 'children', her knowledge of Jon's better claim to the throne and the insecurities and paranoia stemming from that and her best friend being decapitated in front of her eyes. How is this not enough character development to regard what she did as believable? It was one of the best handled arcs in the season and maybe the whole series as a result.
You seem to have a very idealistic view of innocent vs guilty of good vs bad. This is what I mean when I say people have forgotten the shades of grey that the show used to be about rather than the Magnificent 7 style we got later on. On this matter you also seem to have missed a huge point of her dialogue in the last episode regarding that she knows what is good because she is good. It doesn't matter what the viewer thinks of as innocent or good at this point as Daenerys is operating on her own morality at this point. Is it Chaotic Neutral (I'm not an expert at D&D alignments so don't quote me on that)?
I've already said that I agree with you that is was rushed and maybe Daenerys's actions would have had a little more padding before and after, but her arc was definitely the least rushed (apart from her death) and most deserved.
I do regard the journey as more important that then destination. Tell that to all the people who say that GOT was ruined because of the ending.
Ramin Djawadi is amazing 👏 🎵
Better than the mess the writers left behind in their hurry to end the series and wound up destroying what was a great series.
She's Taurus obviously 😂❤
Really? But it was pure pleasure to see that city burn!
I mean yeah it was cool to watch but it didnt make sense at all
This is the best! House Targaryen should have reigned. It started with them and it would have been poetic to end with them
It's like the Joker on Harvey Dent in the Dark knight. Cersei won at the end, she made her point about the little pyromaniac. She will destroy all westeros
Ringing the bell doesn't give her back all that she has lost .it doesn't bring back her friend. She should have destroyed the bell
I just feel like this looks very strategic and it doesn't do her immense feeling of rage justice for some reason.
dear future 2d-animation studios:
if any of you choose to give us your interpretation of asoiaf, PLEASE.. from all of us.. PLEASE dear GODS and any who will listen use THIS for inspo
This Is Why What You Love Will Hurt You
Poor End..
At list My Qween Landed as Your Qween..Cersei's dead.
Lol when she started to breath heavily and then saw Drogon begin to fly I literally tought that this was what was going to happen. I was shocked when she burned the whole city
Give us sum in to do I ain't getting involved in this shit luks scary
é faz mais sentido !
good work geralt
i guess
remove random crits
Why didn't she just ride to cersei and kill her, her destroying kings landing basically proves she had bad motives all along from even season 2, she wanted power only and only power that was her goal all along
Because this city had hundreds of caches of wild fire
MUCH better.
TRUU better than what d-d did.... remember Boycott & Divest from any works from David Benioff - D. B. Weiss in cinema or anything entertainment wise. the Industry must know they are not worth the trouble to work with.
Well,it kind of makes no sense destroying only the red keep...why? There is a reason she burned whole city,its her city,her ancestors founded 7 kingdoms,and using humans as a shield was cersei mistake,cause once you wake the dragon.....there's no stopping.
Lol, umm that city belonged to Jon. His half brother and sister was killed by the mountain , his actual blood family.
Ah. Bless. A nice little Hollywood revenge fantasy ending with the boo hiss baddies getting their comeuppance and the morally pure goodies triumphing over evil & living happily ever after. Have any of you ever read any Shakespeare or classical Greek mythology. And pick either series 8 was fan fiction or it was rushed. You can't have both.
Not at all the thing I was going for. Also, I don't see why we can't have both. Anyways, read the description.
Spot on. JFrankC.
Dany still kills innocent people with the rubble. The only thing that was missing was the wildfire exploding. Maybe she accidentally blows it up and kills hundreds of civilians and maybe even a few of Jon's men.
Какая же она Сильная и Красивая !
ringing bell won't bring back messandie