How to Install Lowering Springs on a MK8 GTI
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- We test out the sketchy 2x4 method many people rave about on the internet for installing suspensions. Come ride along while we lower our MK8 GTI and show you how not to install a suspension on your car. DIY on a 2022 Volkswagen Golf GTI
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0:00 Intro & Important Info
5:20 Wood 2x4 Method
13:50 Correct Spring Removal Method
14:18 Compressing and Swapping Springs
18:03 Reinstalling Shock and Springs
21:52 2x4 Method 2nd Attempt
26:20 Rear Spring Install
33:15 Admiring our finished work! 
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What are your thoughts on the 2x4 method? Good, bad, or sketchy?
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Would not recommend this method
I did it on my MK7. Wasnt too bad haha
Bad, just take your pick on what side of the axle to remove. Sketchy on DCC cars due to the plug being in the way.
Just say no... thats some ehhh horror
I pull the axle nut and lower ball joint... we just did a MkV front and rear 1.5 hours. The 2x4 is a hack...
I watched the whole thing and I have to thank you, for convincing me to not bother with putting lowering springs on my mk8 R.
Like a good dad, you showed without telling lol
Good decision, might have made sense back in the day when suspensions weren't as well sorted as they are today with the armies of engineers they have but not any longer. Besides, I find that most modern cars are about as stiff as most people would want them, especially considering the quality of roads in many places. My mk 7.5 is just about perfect for daily use.
@@toddstevens8506 I was looking at Mk8 R's and wondering why anyone would want to mess with the great suspension and ride it has, in the UK at least the R is rapid over bad country roads, no idea why someone would want to make it ride worse.
@@capuchinseven I completely agree. People have reasons for modifying their cars suspension, most of which are bad.
Yep, looks like a PITA. Not worth messing up the stock dynamics just to lose some wheel gap.
Ditto
I'm so glad you guys did the wood method. Looks sketchy AF. It's basically a hand wrestle between metal with tons of stored energy and a piece of plant.
I'd use bamboo 🎍
Thank you for the hilarious commentary as always Paul!!! LOL at the Napoleon Dynamite clip of Kip with the "YESSSS!!" LMFAO. Good stuff bro.👍😁
Thank you for making this video. I thought about trying this when I did my CSS knuckles and control arms, but thankfully didn't need to since I was removing the outer axle bolt and control arm. But now I know not to mess with it when I inevitably do springs or strut bearings down the road.
Wow watching this just reminds me of watching your tutorials videos when the mk7 first came out and you only had 10k subscribers, you and your team have come such a long way, keep up the great videos!
Another great video! Keep them coming!
I don’t even have a golf, but Paul keeps me coming back
I look forward to short and long term reviews of the performance/ride quality of the springs. I am considering them myself, mostly to get rid of the front wheel gap, but the roads near me can be poor. Thanks!
Installed mine today. Thanks for all the torque specs.
You know how many times I wanted to say ‘that’s what she said!’ During this vid? Well done, as always.
I have to admit, this is the most unorthodox DIY video I have seen you do hahahaha! Especially on a new vw. Keep up the good work.
Finally! Been waiting 3 weeks my dude!
I used the same method when I installed my coilovers; however, I used a metal pipe with a longer bolt instead of the 4X2 wood and it worked beautifully.
can you tell me the total length of the pipe you utilized? Thanks
This dude made an "Out Here brothers" reference then briefly there after dropped Too-Short. I love this channel.
Great video! I'm definitely curious about how to run the DCC adaptation; I can't seem to find a straight answer about it on the forums beyond using OBDEleven so am holding off on lowering my GLI with DCC. Looking forward to your video on the subject! Keep up the great work!
I’ve done this job 3 times on my MK7, and I don’t see why people are so scared of removing the axle. It’s literally just 6 bolts you need to remove. Super easy.
I have my h&r springs sitting in my room ready to put on. Just dont trust myself doing it rather than a professional
just remember to replace them bolts... The last bolts you want coming loose
Do you have the tools? Thats the big question always. Sometimes its just cheaper to take it to a workshop. You definitely need a spring compressor and often buying tools ends up being way more expensive.
Yes, but putting the axle back in? Forget about it. Took me HOURS of wrestling with it and stressing about crossthreading my bolts. The 2x4 method is definitely super sketchy though and I wouldn't try it again. All I could think about was my block of wood shearing off and impaling me in the face lol.
Also as far as the 2x4 method goes. It didn't save me all that much time since it took me a bit to cut my piece of wood down to the right size and to dial it in. My strut didn't separate from the knuckle nearly as easy the internet suggests and I still had to hammer on it a bit to get it loose.
All in all I don't recommend DIY'ing a suspension install. I've DIY'd suspension on all of my cars, two of which were VW's. Didn't matter the make or model though, the install was terrible on every single one of them. I'm no doubt going to be having my suspension for my R installed at a reputable shop and have officially retired from the shade-tree-suspension-install game.
@@ReviewedByAndywhat? it takes like 15 minutes to reattach the axles
Love this kind of content 🔥🔥
looks good. just the right level. great job.
The “we’ll be right back edit” got me good 😂
Thank you for this awesome video! When do you think you will release the video for the relearn procedure for the DCC and headlights?
I love the comedy in your videos Paul!
The osha violation part had my dying.
Is the 2x4 method sketchy and seem silly? Yes. Does it work? Yes. I’ve done springs on two S3s which didn’t require this. And 2 mk7 GTI which I did use 2x4. But a much shorter piece that I did not trim or drill a hole in. I suspect that lead to the wood splitting.
Removing the axle bolts may actually be easier.
Amazing video!
Great info Paul
I did this once and almost got my arm chopped off. Do not attempt shortcuts when doing this.
Thanks Willy Wonka (aka Paul). :) Another informative and entertaining segment.
Hey Paul, could you give us a quick status update on life with these lowering springs so far? How is the ride quality compared to stock? What is the compression rate difference between these springs and stocks? Have you had to upgrade the factory shocks yet? Thank you.
at 16:22 I was enlightened! Mk7R owner here. No longer wondering where the f$@k that creaking is coming from. THANK YOU!
These videos kill me, too funny. Also did you do all this woodworking in the morning…….I’ll be here all week 💀
You don't want to have to pay to do it again "lumber is expensive right now"... love it.
cool, and thanks for killing any desire I may have had to ever do this. 😎🍸
the 2x4 method worked for me really well when swapping old coilovers to new coilovers on my MK7. However, after all was said and done I needed to make some adjustments that required removing one coilover and reseating it. For whatever reason - fatigue, frustration, etc... the 2x4 did not cooperate as well as it has 2 hours prior. It kept catching on the control arm (I think) so rather than lift the shuck out of the knuckle, the whole thing kept raising up. Quite frustrating. So, while not the textbook way to do it, it worked well for me and I had a strong piece of wood that did not break. YMMV. If you've never done suspension on a MK5 or newer.... maybe go to a pro. I learned the hard way on my mk5...
Winner for the best song in the automotive category: OSHA violations by Shopdap 🤣
Thanks for doing this!
So I had some installed recently. When I'm at highway speeds the car sometimes pulls to the side. It's difficult to replicate. It pulls both ways. It's not in the steering wheel. The best way I can describe it is when driving on a very windy day. How the car sometimes feels like the wind pushes it to the side. Like I said, it's very difficult to describe. It does not feel dangerous. But it is noticeable.
Did you get an alignment after?
Nice 👍 good job halpfull video
Similar setup on my TT. I removed the axle from the knuckle, however removing the axle from the transmission looks way easier.
Dang, that lil strut spreader bit is genius and I can grind one up myself.
I don't work on these and needing that at all seems kinda stupid but that's a big upgrade from trying to turn a flat screwdriver to spread other stuff
I have done it with bolts when necessary, but the tool holds up better. Fyi.
They’re cheap on Amazon. I have 3 of them I keep around just in case one goes bad. It would be cheaper to buy on Amazon than for you to build one yourself
@@JacesOwnWorld very true, plus the actual tool is made of stronger steel than if you were to grind down a bolt.
Great thanks to Deutsche Auto Parts, This video is very useful, a lot learned! I have a quick question here, is that possible to use 3 camber screws (or what are called eccentric screws) on the top of the shock tower to create a 1-degree camber angle? Many thanks again!
Great video. Have you ever thought about doing how-to videos in someone's actual home garage...no lifts, probably less than complete tool box, etc...? Sort of a real world DIY.
I would remove the axle by bolt in the hub instead just same easier to me
On another note. Paul what is your opinion on the one time bolts and nuts? I hate it, if it's stretch bolts in an engine I'm reuse them
When is the Euro Spec Taillight install video dropping? I'm excited to see those in action!
Hello, love your channel and your new mk8, question can you do a vid on CTS Turbo MK7 VW/AUDI EA888 Gen 3 Port Injection Kit
Pros and cons please thank you
Should the rear knuckle to lower arm bushing bolt be tightened at ride height? Maybe why it was sitting high in the rear 🤔
thats awesome that he referenced too$hort
Any thoughts on improving protection under the car when you lower it?
Dude. I would have just pulled the axle etc. I ain’t putting wood under there. But, struts on VW are always exciting.
Hey Paul, unrelated to this DIY, did you end up mounting a rear plate on the bumper? Curious on what alternative ideas you may have? Suction cups and tape are the prettiest but it’s been working for me so far ha
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Great video, I will Never do this job this way.
34:19 wow those DRLs!!
How is the development on Taos aftermarket parts? Or are they on the back burner for more popular platforms like the Mk8 GTI
This DCC readaptation also applies to the s4/s5 b8 platform after lowering?
I hope you do euro tail light conversion for the mk 8!
You rock 🤘🏽
Did you do the suspension adaptation procedure yet? If so will you releasing a video?
CAn you do a DIY coolant flush with the new G12evo coolant please?
Do you happen to know the part number for the 2-wire connector on the shock/strut?
Great video. I have a mk8 gte lowered 30mm, what's the best way to adjust the matrix headlights as they are a little low. Adjustments to the level sensor or through coding??? Thanks
Did you find the answer, I can't find it anywhere, please share information. Thanks!
Show. Parabéns 👏
I have a issue with my Mk7 with 100,000 miles.
A misfire on cylinder 3 only, misfire is only on idle.
Did compression test 190 on 1,2,4 and 160 on 3. Changed spark plugs, coils, injectors, and did a carb clean.
Any help on what it could be the issue would be appreciate it.
Nice Video Paul. On those lowering springs, what type of plastic tubing are you using on the springs coils to keep them quite? AND where do I get some? I'm getting close to installing mine. Thanks!
They’re spring sleeves that come with the springs
If i am looking for the same type of fitment for my mk8 golf R. What springs do you recommend?
Hey. I’m doing lower springs on my mk8 gtd this week. Did you had to do any kind of DCC reset?
Lmao you killed me with the “no one wants to ride in my car boy”
Do I need to adjust the LED Headlight after lowering the car with Racingline, do we follow the same method as Audi that you mentioned or this MK8 has self adjustment? I just don't see your video about it. Thanks!
Gimme the sketchy stuff :D
Sorry , one question, with this spring THE car become more hard in confort mode or not?
Did that GTI cut itself shaving? It’s got bandaids right above its Iron Man stache.
I'd be interested to see you put on lowering springs on an Atlas or Cross Sport part of the MQB Platform, when I was looking at the axle into the trans there aren't any bolts? spline into trans?
Yes they spline in if there are no bolts. There is usually a special tool but you can often pop out with a pry bar.
@@Deutscheautoparts with the way the boot is attached I'm thinking the only way to change out springs or coilover, wheel assembly bolt or ?
What about torquing theses bolts on curb high ?
Does Charles know you tightened the rear bushings without weight on the rear suspension?
It would likely be a bit lower if you tightened it with weight on it.
Hey Paul - I am installing the same lowering springs literally right now at the shop. They are telling me that I MUST do the ACC alignment and I'm calling bs on it due to the fact that it's only a ~25mm drop. Can I get your professional opinion? I don't think you did this in your install.
One tip I will give is be careful with cheap coilovers. I had stance+ coilovers on my Mk6 and switched to Lo 35mm lowering springs, the car sits lower on the springs but does not rub like it did on cheap coilovers.
can I use a custom forged titanium rod instead of a 2x4? I can't afford a 2x4. . .
Next time maybe use morning wood? Great vid!
What are the axel bolts supposed to be torque to
VWs whole front suspension setup is such a pain! Why they use shock mounts with nuts built instead of studs is beyond me. Would make lining things up/installing way easier. Having to use the spreader tool and undo the axle is just so unnecessarily complicated.
No appearance by Johnny Wood Dick? Glad nobody lost any limbs :D Car looks awesome!
did you get any issues with Fault Suspension Warning Light ?
How about tightening the bolts on ride height, instead of winding up the rubber bushings as you did?
At least it's a good reason to update to PU bushings in about 25k, when the OEMs are split.
Right about when you need to change the tyres too, since you didn't mention the necessity of a 4-wheel alignment...
Hey Paul, used this method on my MK7 Alltrack. Until watching you do it, I didn’t think about how sketchy it actually was. Worked like a charm though. Probably on to something that DCC makes it a little less easy.
I think it’s worth pointing out, you’re going to need an alignment regardless, so spending the extra time to disconnect the axle, is probably a good idea.
16:49 😂
Fell out of my chair laughing at 2:57
I'm so using the beep boop bop method next time😆
This is why I pay the experts to do something like this.
Can you do the video on the DCC adaptation you mentioned in the beginning? And the headlights?
Coming soon
@@Deutscheautoparts It's been awhile, can you show how the adjust the headlights?
11 mins in and I can't bear to look!
So I'm watching this getting ready to take off the slammed suspension the previous owner put on my car and replace it with factory DCC shocks. Most of the work I've done on this car has taken it back closer to stock.
I don't even have a MK8 GTI, but still watched the whole video
You can do the fronts in about 15 min with the "2x4" method when done correctly. Iv used this method with no issue. Also consider the quality of the wood.
I swear you guys need a prime time deal. LMFAO! Any word on Stage 1 or 1+ from Unitronics? Had it on my 7.5 and miss the extra power already. No I haven't gone over 1000 miles yet. SMH. Awesome vids too guys!
None of the tuners have broken the ECU yet, we won’t see any tunes until that happens.
@@Deutscheautoparts aww shucks!
i dont get why people do the 6 tripple squares on the axles not the main hub nut?
Manual 🤩
12:34 had headphones on and that sound made me jump out of my seat.
Do u have any parts for škoda
The is a 2 by 4 no for me. The car looks great.
I can’t even watch all of this. Anxiety over 9000. Lol
Hello whats the part number for the "bushing" at 17:09 ?
Haha this is so funny 🤣
I tried this method once and it kind of worked well on the left hand side but it went wrong on the right hand side where the strut doesn't behave the same way and it kept kicking to one side and not going straight up. I would strongly discourage people from using it
My favorite part is when you posted torque specs while using an impact driver 😂.
Use a bottle jack between the knuckle and bottom of the spring perch. Way easier
Is it important to renew the screws?