Toyota GR Supra 2.0 FULL REVIEW - less powerful but sportier? Autogefühl
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- This is our in-depth review of the Toyota GR Supra 2.0. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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It’s the re born Celica but seriously Toyota where is the manual box ?
Finally, someone is willing to do a review on a 4-cylinder Supra! Thank you very much!
This BMW turbo-charged small engine is actually powerful enough for most people on public roads!
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Thomas, I have watched a few vids that are of cars that are of interest to me to purchase, can I ask what car do you actually own/drive? thank you from UK
FUN FACT: Toyota chose the 4 cylinder 3S-GT rally engine, over the 6 cylinder 2JZ to be used in motorsports, in legendary cars such as the Castrol Supra because it was lighter, more efficient and allowed the cars to have a better weight distribution.
Mike That was my favorite car back in the PlayStation 1 days of Gran Turismo. I had no clue they used a 4 cylinder, crazy.
Great point! Contrary to popular belief the 2JZ never was, despite its potential for street tuners, never any good as a competition engine!
YES ! SAMMIT spotted one in front of a Junkyard !!!
That would be a cool engine to swap in the Supra 2.0
@yazkaz you could, someone put a 3SGTE on a Toyota Kijang (basically a Hilux surf but without 4x4 and had different design).
Been looking for a full review on the Supra 2.0 and you don’t disappoint!
Really like that Toyota gave an option for a more affordable, lighter, and economical sports car
Love the Supra!
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actually sounds nice for a 4 cyl....pretty damn good
Thx Thomas and Jonas; it's great watching yr excellent reviews - even more so now we have to stay home all day! Pls keep them coming :-)
thanks m8, we will - stay tuned here :)
Supra 2.0 -100kg -10.000 euro less are already two clues to choose.I have seen various videos of the 3.0..nice sound beautiful power but at the level of driving,confort,stability and direct steering the 2.0 can give many satisfactions
Always great to see Above and Beyond in Thomas’ playlist 👊🏼 can we see a driving segment with your in car music and some epic scenery?
👌
Push the button!
The 4 cylinder with a manual transmission option would have been perfection. Shame Toyota won't do it. Would be my pick of the range. Doors this still have some buffeting issues when the the driver window is down?
well the window is not Toyota, so I dont think there is the same issue
I did not expect that review! pleasantly surprised :)
always stay tuned here =)
Thomas helping us move away from horrible leather trims always warms my heart. ❤ Lovely review, Thomas.
highly appreciated
leather is nice
Хозе Гонзалез it's destructive
@@user-vt5hm5wu3g No it is not. How it is obtained is even worse.
@@user-vt5hm5wu3g No leather is not nice, especially not nice to animals, human workers in the industry and the environment
I have 4 cylinder Supra. It is really great car, I love it🙂🏎️🙂🏎️🙂
Top notch review as always. Thanks Thomas! 😎👍🏻
enjoy m8
@@autogefuehl Social distancing in effect so trust me, I surely will!
I wish Toyota would offer a stick shift gear box.
Colin Smith just doesn’t sell. Pointless unless they make a limited amount
You should trAvel back in time and stay there
RIP STANDARD TRANSMISSION
AUTOMATIC IS THE PRESENT AND FUTURE
Definitely, a driver doesn't feel connected as one driving an auto, there's no talent required lol
@@HOTPLATEGAMING by that logic your ass should give up ICE altogether and get an all electric vehicle. For the same price of this Supra, you can get a model 3 that will absolutely smoke it in a straight line. Its also infinentally more practical for daily use. Also by your logic, Toyota shouldn't of even brought this car back - at the least, they should of just turned it into an SUV. After all, two door sports coupes aren't selling well either. The reality is, this is already a niche car, and a large portion of the niche that will actually consider buying it are interested in a manual transmission. Toyota dropped the ball here. The 86 has a manual option. There is zero reason for the supra not to have one too.
You have a relaxing and calm demeanor.. and cute to boot
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Excellent review - you are an intellectual car journalist. When you said that the 6 cylinder has a more 'sovereign' feel, I have never heard of that as a descriptor of an engine but I understood what you meant immediately. More of a dignified feel compared to the more frenetic four cylinder.
Thanks 🙏
Just found this channel, definitely one of the best car reviewers on youtube!
awesome, welcome !!
Such a good weather in Germany! In Saint Petersburg is also sunny, but zero degree :)
Thomas no body comes close to the way you review a car . I hope you never retire
hehe let's hope so, keep supporting us!
This car is really growing on me. The styling is like nothing else on the road at this price. I'd totally be ok with the 4 cylinder model. Lighter, better on gas and still fast. Great review as usually Thomas. Greetings from Arizona, USA :)
greetings Mike! How's it going over there?
Excellent review. Really enjoyed it. Just bought the 4 cylinder model and have to admit that your review is very accurate. Really enjoying my car and thanks for this excellent review.
Thanks and enjoy!
The video and sound track quality are super. Your review is on point. I feel the 2.0 is the drivers car and the 3.0 is the racers choice. I would pick the 2.0 it will burn rubber on city streets superbly and the BMW 4T is easy to care for.
It is sporty enough but it needs a M/T option to be more engaging on fun driving Good review
The panorama at the end shows exactly how Europe is today!
Yeah ! but Europe is Building this Supra !!!
I don't like much the steering wheel but i like best the navigation design. Overall, a great job. This car looks amazing!
Lovely car but zero chance of anyone going anywhere near a car dealership in the next 12 months to actually buy one.
Does anyone know if the fake air intakes can be easily changed with real ones? Honestly, these are the parts I like less.
Great accelaration and high quality, thank you Thomas for review.
I'll be waiting for the BMW Supra Gran Coupé.
🤦♂️
Me too. It will be great.
Supra looks damn good n 2.0l is ok with me
I really like the BMW straight six in the new Supra and Toyota made it fit so well for the car
But the 2.0 is also good as a more affordable as it is more lighter and economical
A manual gearbox would be nice tho
BASITH PH i agree
Great car! Thank you for the review as always top notch!
Getting mine (in metallic white) on monday. To me this is closer to the mighty 2000GT than the Supra, which can't be a bad thing. ❤
Very nice to see BMW and Toyota working together to create this lovely little car. I would love more collaborations amongst brands. Let's work together, people. 🤗
Great Review, driving parts and commentary. At 25:15 thanks for the German lesson! Best wishes.
all the best to u John
Great reviews!
Thanks 🤗
Nice review! Love your comment about the seats and not giving any more money to the animal industry. The car looks fun to drive but I think the interior already looks out of date especially that infotainment screen. All the best to you again!
highly appreciated m8! Great to have u with us
That looks fun!
I wonder how much this Supra will depreciate until the end of 2021 ... I need this car!
Sat in one a while ago. Felt extremely claustrophobic compared to my E92 3 series.
scanspeak00 apples and oranges. one is a sedan, the other is a “sports car”
Awesome review, you guys do a great job!
Be interested to see this up against a Civic Type R.
performance wise it may be similar, but the Supra is about £20k more expensive for the 3L 340hp twin turbo model (only model offered for us in the UK).
I love this car 😍😍👍 I need it
Great review!
cheers!
Wish they made the next gr86 with that amount of power, rather than the 2.0 supra
GR86 is rumored to have 260-280hp while this has 255-260hp. I would call that too off but it's really close to this and it weights less.
@@SK-mi5qv the mk5 6 cylinder is like 50k for the 4 cylinder it's a high chance to be 40k(going off us prices)for the 86 is still unknown but coming straight from Toyota the GR86 isn't going to be faster than the 6cyl supra but it's supposed to out handle it and the 4 banger mk5 was just made as a cheaper way of getting a mk5 to basically boost mk5 sales but I see it in my eyes I see it as them basically giving us another car that'll end up being used the same way that gt86s are being used once their cheap(I just remember some people saying the GR86 is basically the last but I'm not comfirming it until I hear it from Toyota)
@@SK-mi5qv yea especially with the delays sadly. And with the 2021s I heard that the euro market might be stuck with the same engine that was still in the 2020 mk5s because of emission reasons while the us and a few other markets are getting the more powerful 2021 mk5s with the Z4s engine(same engine as the Z4 but it has a lower compression compared to the Z4s B58). As much as id like to say screw the emissions for doing that to the euro market but thats sadly the way it's more than likely going to be whenever the 2021s come out.
@@SK-mi5qv but what I know of the 2.0 mk5 was that the Japanese market was first to ever receive the 2.0 mk5s that was the SZ and SZ-R(I dunno about the "SZ-R"one but I know there were 2 different 2.0 models for the mk5)I know that one of them had the standard 258hp but I remember the other 2.0 version having like 190-200hp but I'd have to look again but they all had their noticeable differences in things like rims(most obvious),seats,and I think a few trim color(cant remember since I looked into it when they first came around).
@@SK-mi5qv practically the 2021 (base or A91)is basically just getting the Z4s B58 butttttt it seems that it has a lower compression than the Z4s B58(which it might even have different pistons which is a possibility)and that it's supposed to be more track prone(stiffer)than the 2020s including a few updates here and there. But it resulting with 400hp is pretty high since the 2020s rated 340-350hp Other than Toyotas 335hp that they said it had stock so it's a high chance the 2021s hp is also underrated. And probably more prone to boost because of the heads.
Best review as always. TY. Question, watch you are wearing is...?
2.0 with a 6 speed manual please.
Hopefully a manual version some day
sutats lol no
@@Akeem_768 Why not? It has literally zero effect on you. Unless of course you're an aspiring car thief too dumb to learn how to drive a stick.
Its a nice sports car. But I think the Mazda Miata with ragtop and manual trans and $10k less has this beat easily
Just a short preview from the guys today 😂
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I am so impressed with this car & the thought of the reliable 4cyl & turbo. Not much effort to get 300 hp. Then I saw the 6cyl get meth & racing gas, go 600 hp.
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What's the music track near the beginning of the video? Good track to study & exercise with.
You, sir, are the boss and I really appreciate that you shed light on the 4-cylinder Supra as well. But, to be honest, I'm not really a fan of the 4-cylinder Supra (and the 4-cylinder Z4s, the 20i and the 30i, for that matter) because I think that if someone has come that far on buying the Supra or the Z4, then why not make the better choice and buy the 6-cylinder version?
The 4-cylinder versions of the Z4, especially the 30i, seem to me like some more expensive MX5s and frankly, apart from showing off to your friends, neighbours and your office colleagues, I don't see the point in why to choose them. At least the 6-cylinder has the sound to make the show-off even more of a sensual experience! The 4-cylinders have a nice base sound when starting up but they just moan characterlessly in high revs while the 6-cylinder simply sings near its rev limit!
Besides, you said it by yourself, too: ''The 6-cylinder is an efficient engine and could be more efficient than the highly-tuned 4-cylinder!''!
Thanks! Yeah This is a good way to argument
I see the 4 zyl Supra more like a newish GT86 tbh especially when it hits the used market in 1-2years
@@t-bone9239 I see it as a more expensive GT86. I don't like it very much, tbh...
So, why would I buy this version if the 2021 86 may be more enticing?
Team RED because nobody knows yet. And the 86 will very probably be less of a GT and more of a lightweight sportcar, meaning less comfortable, less features, less sound isolation etc.
Premium Sports vs Bare bones sports car.
The new taillights looks like the ones on the new Mercedes GLC
Not the GLC, dude. The GLC has large tail lights, not slim. 😂
Impressive acceleration for a 4-pot. Probably all you really need.
If they put 4 cylinders . They should put K series in this super and turbo .
Thank you for yet another excellent and well-researched video. Keep well and look after yourself Thomas.
thanks David u too!
Good car for fun, 4 cylinder better for daily sport use, less taxes... less consume... for lower speeds, definitely not a practical daily car, only for weekends moods. But at last! an impressive BMW&TOYOTA work!
i love this supra!
Does this supra have the same gearbox than the M135i with the 4 cylinders ? the Aisin or ZF version ?
Nice video has always 👍🏻
It uses the zf transmission
@@p1yaan the M135i use a aisin gearbox, it's nomore a ZF.
Are you sure that BMW made a thing like this just for this car ?
@@warcryjohn the aisin is what they use in the transverse engined cars with high horsepower figures like the mini jcw gp, mini countryman jcw and the m135i/235i. The low output cars use a 7-spd dct. They've been using the zf with this engine in many other cars so, it's not specific to the supra or the z4.
Yes indeed. The 6-cyl = ZF.
Puyaan Air-cooled ok thanks for your answer now I understand 👍🏻
Hi Thomas how are you mate, from a returning viewer
Very good, thanks! How are you? Hope you re still healthy!
I luv the z4
What are the OEM tires that were on the car? that made the steering so nice and responsive.. is it Michelin Super Sport?
The 3.0 needs a big wing to differentiate from the 2.0 besides the wheels
I thought there was only one engine power, until I saw this and went to wikipedia to look for more info.
Japan has different version supras other than everyone else(I think it's only like that for market I can't remember)just like the mk4 SZ (2jzge)and RZ(2jzgte) models the RZ being the i6 model and the SZ being the 4 banger.
how does the handling compare to the cayman? and compared to most hot hatches??
In Sweden we only have the 6-cylinder - and that is around €60K. Can't see how a €50K 4-cylinder would be worth even offering. If you can't afford 60K you won't probably afford 50K either. If it was in the 40's it would have more of a place on the market.
Talking about sports cars, what about reviewing the Ariel atom?? :)
Is this car good for daily driving
fitting for thomas to review a german car
Fitting for Thomas to review a car, you mean.
What an amazing looking car. If I had possibility (place in garage) I would definetly go right ahead and buy that car. Thank you for showing us the two engine options. I would pick the 4 cilinder, it will be more than enough for Belgian roads. I wonder if this car is a good long term investment. Is this car viable for everyday driving?
Yes. It's absolutely is
“In full screen, full HD and full length”
Mmmmh super interesting video ! Thanks a lot ! The Supra looks great in real ... and better than the Z4, too "complicated".. Inside, too ! More simple in toyota cockpit. This Supra has a good handling, i really liked it on track .. ! And the best surprise is the sound of the 2.0 inside and outside ! Thanks Mini .. :) Though, more natural than L6 from inside, i think. Thanks for this vid, in this no- automotive-activity time :p
Cheers m8
I see a Thomas video notification. I stop everything and watch happily!
way to go =)
Very good idea. 😎🤗
I like the new Supra but it should have been better by being worse. What i mean by that is i think they could have developed the platform and powertrain together but then went separate ways. So for example with the infotainment system, they could have easily used a Toyota one instead of BMW and save a lot of money. If they had done this they could have gotten the cost down from $50,000 to under $40,000 and the car would have made more sense. It would have also pleased the Toyota fans.
dsparke93 10k less because they would have use a Toyota software ? Think again.
@@alexispillon1608 The software was just an example. My point was by using more Toyota parts they could have brought the price down. Read comments more thoroughly in the future.
dsparke93 so what other parts were you thinking about ? Transmission ? Engine ? You want Corolla seats in that ? Write your comments more thoroughly in the future.
I wonder where the GT86-successor will fit in with this and the GR Yaris around. Hopefully this will limit its price to below 40.000€ (by now the price of a fully loaded MX-5 RF)!
I have basic 2.0 supra in delivery, after driving supra 3.0 and 330i 🥳 as daily for 35k/year
How much do you pay monthly without paying for the gas if I can ask?
I think this car is the best value for money!
Ein super auto ist das
The I6 sounds better and fits better. But the I4 has more positives. Its so much cheaper and more economical. Its a really hard choice. You can already get the I6 for the price of a brand new I4.
When the car was launch, this car was a little disappointment for me, now watching the reviews my opinion change to "Why not". My personal choice would be 6 cylinders in Z4 and 4 on the Supra...
Toyota claimed perfect 50:50 weight distribution for the 3.0 when it launched, now they are saying this one has better weight distribution...so which is it?
3.0 has 50:50 weight distribution but since the 4 banger version drops 200lbs in the car so that changes it.
I thought this episode would review the new Toyota Corona.
Since when doesn't Thomas wear glasses? I mean you look great, but it really caught me off guard. :D
Just for a change 😁
so why 2 videos on 2 channels???? which one i should watch?
long or short version
Kölsche Kennzeichen ! 👌🏻
Servus. Design is not the best side of Toyota, but Supra looks great🤩. Gruß.
If the world was to end, I’d buy this with all my savings and just drive.
😂 seems like u will buy this now 😂
@@autogefuehl 😅
@@autogefuehl LOL! Brutal! 😂
If we would still be allowed to drive with all the lockdowns in place.
Still a 4 cylinder BMW
Would it be possible to make a full review of the C8 Corvette?
We ll try!
Great review! Thomas looking sexier than ever! Keep up the good work...
cheers pal =)
The digital cluster is weird. Why they put the gear info in the middle, while put speed on the side? I mean, when you are in manual model, it makes some sense. But 90% of time ppl are driving in auto model, it is just a stupid D or S in the middle.
This car desparately needs a manual transmission
Just not the same wihout the microphone
a naturally aspirated straight 6 would be great:
-better sound than this 4 an probably than the turbo 6;
-enough power, as has the turbo 4;
-better efficiency at WOT than all turbos;
-about the same weigh as this turbo 4;
-no balance shafts;
-a bit better reliability;
-easier serviceability;
-the ZF 8 speed matches the 3.0 very well; the 2.0 could do with a 6 speed (manual?....hmmm).
The government profits the most off new cars sold, not the Dealership owners , plus option =more taxes to government
www.chevrolet.com/performance/corvette is kicking their asses
This (v6) or a slightly used Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio?
Ooh,choices,choices