How Does No Man's Sky Actually Work? - Reality Check
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2014
- Cam investigates the question we've all been wondering: how does the procedurally generated world of No Man's Sky actually work?
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Shout out to the kids who suck at math and wanted to become game designers
Lmfao true
***** Yes. DREAM CRUSHER!
***** Lol I used to hate math until I discovered that game design requires so much of it. Now math is fun to me.
***** math... or maths as we say in the UK isn't really essential in a quest to become a decent game-designer or programmer, but having a good understanding of logic & problem-solving is a positive boon.
Son of a fuck.
This game will be exactly like spore: I.E. looks great on stage but once you play it you are like "Yea, screw you Mr. Developers."
At least it doesnt look like a cartoon. Nah but in all seriousness it looks like they're focusing more on the world generating itself than trying to give us like 5 gameplay stages, which was what happened with spore. So hopefully it won't be as empty and repetitive.
True.
True but I'm worried everything will behave the same and be too similar. I want some of these worlds to be truly alien and work completely differently to ours
Nope. Just nope
This game requires fantasy dude
Dont fuck it up... Dont fuck it up... Dont fuck it up... Dont fuck it up... Dont fuck it up... Dont fuck it up...
+Three Masters yeah, like pay about $1.99 for a planet or some shit XD
DONT worry. Its why HelloGames took so long to release the game. They are making damn sure they WONT fuck it up. And they won't. You can ease with the worry. You really can rest assured this will be a complex, smooth running game.
they fucked it up 😅
HAHAHAHA
"No Man's Sky Players Would Need 5 Billion Years to Explore Every Planet for 1 Second"
this scares me...
imagine a game that will last for so long...that is probably the only thing i don't like in the game,the scale of it,i wouldn't be able to explore every single bit of this game before i die just any other generation,but it also amazes me alot...but just think of it 5 Billion Years to Explore Every Planet for 1 Second.
This idea is amazing me ,i mean the univers is soo big , so its good ,you cant explorate all ,thats give you the right feeling.
RA MO i hope so !
Think of it like real life, u probably won't see every nook and cranny, but there will definitely be overlap where ppl migrated and it will create diff player cultures. Kinda like in mmos diff servers have their own jokes and economies but all in 1 server which makes it so dynamic and cool
the game also has a story... play through the story and you will feel complete... then explore what you can
RA MO yeah? Lol imma try to find it unless he has like 100 vids :(
For some reason people are having a hard time understanding the game. People can't seem to wrap their heads around not being guided and honestly, I kinda think it's a little sad. Anyways, I've compiled a list of everything I've heard about NMS so far and I'm going to share it in hopes that some people are less confused or in the dark about what NMS is or is about/consists of.
-First things first. This is for *ps4*... for now. It is advertised as being for ps4, it is for the ps4. P...S...4! Yes, HelloGames does want to release for PC and other platforms, but right now it is for ps4, but not exclusively since they will most likely release it for multiple platforms sometime after the launch.
-Infinite procedural universe (obviously lol)
-Planets will be planet sized (Either all of them will be or some of the will be, I forget which).
-According to Sean Murray, if he *had* to come up with a basic objective it would be to get to the center of the universe, but mainly the people at HelloGames want people to create their own experience. However, it seems traversing deeper into the universe will be a common thread amongst us all based on the way the game is set up. Obtainable things get better the deeper you go, but obstacles also become harder.
-In order to complete the "basic" objective you'd obviously have to survive which brings us to the second objective... survival. Go figure lol.
-You will have a "multi-tool" which you can upgrade based on your specific needs and the way you like to play.
-Planets react to atmosphere... The amount of gases in the air will determine what color the sky, grass, water etc will be. If a planet is too close to it's respective sun it will de desolate (and probably desert like since that motherfucker will be hottt). Same goes for a planet too far from it's respective sun. Not all planets will be teeming with life like the one in the demo.
-There will be enemies! This is not just a "oooohhhh, ahhhhhhh" kind of game. Yes you can
-Explore and
-Discover
but there *will* be threats and people ( I should say aliens lol) that want you dead. Although, I haven't heard anything about the animal life being a threat. I think certain ones might be. Hopefully.
-There will be AI beside animal life. Think back to the multiple ships flying through space, those are your companions.
-Bringing us back to survival, you will have to gather resources in order to upgrade your ship and suit. And you *will* need to upgrade them in order to survive on certain terrain or, let's say you wanted to last longer underwater you can upgrade your suit to do so.
-If you're cruisin' through space on your way to another planet and you decide to stop and fight these pirates in your way and lose... you lose everything. You won't just respawn with everything all good to go. You will be affected. It will fucking suck. Choose your battles people! (Now that I think about it, where the hell will we respawn if we're in space? Maybe a trading post? Which brings me to my next point...)
-There will trading posts to, well, trade. Lol.
- You can bounty hunt! (Excited for that)
-While it will be incredibly hard to find friends (Look at it this way. The planets are planet sized. If I'm on one side of earth and friend is on the exact opposite side, it'd be kinda hard to get to each other. So now we're talking about a universe lol. Good luck!) There will be a multiplayer mode. It will either be in the future or immediately released. I'm praying for immediate because nothing is more badass than flying through space with friends and kicking pirate ass! Which brings me to my next point..
-This game will be in the works for a while. It won't release and that's it. I guess we can compare these to Minecraft TU's.
Well, that's all folks! Hopefully this helps some of you out and if I've missed anything or got something wrong let me know :)
Dude
Super awesome overlord of the 4th dimension and cup cakes lol :) Cool name btw n_n
Super awesome overlord of the 4th dimension and cup cakes So do all cupcakes come from you or?
Justin Archer Yes
he said you create your own objective :L to travel to the centre of the universe was just an example, theres no objective.
You know what I find incredible? It doesn't matter if this game ends up being good or not. The concept is public. The idea is out there. Just give it awhile, and eventually, this idea will be revolutionized by other developers. Procedurally generated open worlds, where the possibilities are dictated by nothing more than simple mathematics. Just think about it. This game, and possibly Star Citizen could influence a whole new era of gaming that is only but years away. That's why I'm optimistic. By all means, you can be happy for this game. But me personally, I'm happy for the future.
Actually the math is pretty complex If you think about it. It is done in so many layers that the worlds generated by it will look amazing and not out of place.
Be nice if War game did this that be epic use nuke to kill ppl and fly all over the world and it be never end world it be like u fly to USA and start a war USA vs Japan or tho type of game but have a full world to do war on sorry for mess up text
This concept has been around for over 20 years. Frontier: Elite II did this (to a much simpler level) in 1993, and is doing it again to a greater level of detail now, in Elite: Dangerous. Check out Infinity: The Quest For Earth too, similar concept, though it's been in development for a long time, and probably will be in development for many more years to come.
Limit Theory is also doing something similar, though there won't be seamless planetary transitions. An Infinite, procedurally generated universe, with procedurally generated ships. You can build up fleets and factories and build your own empire (think X3).
chris troutman Go home Chris, you're drunk.
Lol yep off beer and good stuff yo lol thx u for see. That iam lmao
That programmer was ecstatic over his creation. I can sense the passion from the monitor
What if some god like creature created our universe as a video game? following a series of simple algorithms that work together to make one huge, complex universe full of stars and planets and creatures. humans being one of those creatures.
after a while this particular creature created a video game. one that followed a series of simple algorithms that work together to make one huge, complex universe full of stars and planets and creatures.
...I think I've discovered another layer (Que Inception music)
What if the procedural universe ended up copying the real life thing? OMG
And if we can make games like No Man's Sky with only about 70 years of technology's evolution (computers), think about another thousand years of computing power increase, or a million or a billion. It's not that insane to assume we're in a simulation and just can't detect it, because it is far more complex computation than we have developed. Sort of like those little deer creatures in NMS having no idea they are in a video game.
We can't possible comprehend the scale of how technology will advance. Our huge universe may be a quick speed round of Sim City to some super intelligent being (God). Simulation theory is nutty.
dsid1127 Stop it, my brain hurts D:
that makes as much sense as any religion. Aka no sense at all
Hash Slinging Slasher It actually makes plently of sense compared to religion. we already have simulations today that use our laws of physics. everything from to the big bang to now (about 13.8 billion years) could be simulated on a powerful enough machine. and you'd be none the wiser about it.
Defiantly my most anticipated game
>;-D I win ..
In defiance of what?
Just based on my username, I'm sure everyone can tell that I think this is the best game ever.
+TheAstrobiologistGamer I want to be an astrobiologist or something in that respect in the future :o
Your picture used to be my phone's wallpaper.
nope LOL
REVO nope YES
I just adore the way this guy tells us about his game. He is really excited to talk about his creation, but with a controlled soothing voice. You just see the "little boy's joy". This is a dedicated dev!
This game is a doorway to bigger and better things for the gaming industry.
ayyy
I'm not gonna lie. The thought of what this game will be brings me to manly tears. This is everything I've ever wanted in a game. I'm a huge sci fi fan and this game brings all of my hopes and dreams for a game to life. I'm so happy. My hopes are high right now.
Same. Think of it, billions of new planets with their own unique eco system and features just based off of the placement of the planet, with unique species on every planet.
***** Overhyped or not, I dun care. It's just me, the game, and my controller.
One of the best sci-fi games I saw so far is star citizen. It looks awesome
JUJUCoolBoy
and that will end up being 10 base algorithms with 5 variations and after you've seen 100 planets you will have seen them all. Trust me on this.
*****
I thought the same thing when NMS was ANNOUNCED back "then". I was hoping for a space exploration/trading shooter with the ability to land on planets (ffs, I could land on planets in elite: frontier in 1997). Then they started with all these features, animals, life, exploration on foot, looting, building and I realised that this is n't going to get released before 2020 or it will be released and will have all that but it will excel in none of the features because there are too many of them for them all to be good. Then I watched some more footage and press, and then hype started. Gamespot for instance is hyping this big time. I bet they made a deal to share sales profit but what do I know. This is gamespots XY video of this game, hyping it, and I know better than to trust any of this hype. Just remember colonial marines ffs....
edit: ok, A: Colonial Marines is a bit too obvious example, let's have a look at the brand new fascinating X: Rebirth. Yea, right. Luckily I knew all X games needed 5 patches to work so I waited, and I am still waiting but I didn;t buy it, and will not buy it, they ar enot fixing the game, they are making a DLC and expansion. So X died there. X3 is the last space game that is (still) good.
Born too late to explore a planet (Earth)
Born too soon to explore the space.
Born just in time to do both in No Man's Sky.
Yep
Earth is still barely explored tbh..there are many monsters not yet discovered
Is this getting released on 2020? honestly i don't care, it's going to be the best game ever if they don't fuck up, like legit best game ever made
I heard it's coming this year
How though
Z!r0 h4ze No idea
seriously i'd do anything to play this
Z!r0 h4ze I'd sacrifice my left testicle to Satan to get the game today
my only question is... what impact can a player cause in this universe?
+Afonso Wiborg That's an amazing question.
The same impact you have in this one I'm guessing.
sion8
Its a interesting thing to hope... but I don't believe in that.
Afonso Wiborg
Hahaha yeah I'm sure.
+Afonso Wiborg three comments up and you'll kinda get ur answer
This game is the first step in the Simulation Hypothesis
Is it? What's so special about this game that it's considered so revolutionary by some?
@@Marco-zt2jj because of the recent discoveries of quantum mechanics and the way the real world works, it is very similar to this game. Take the old addage "if a tree falls in a forest with no one around, does the tree make a sound?" We can now scientifically say that no, it does not. We discovered that atoms act like waves as well as particles. Waves being something that is not real/solid as you and mean would define it, and particles something solid and real meaning we can look at it, take a microscope to it and look into/at it. But we found that the more you look into an atom, the more that you find. We have no idea what atoms are made out of because the more we look, the more we find. Quantum science has proven that technically there is nothing that makes up an atom and the only reason why we keep finding more and more "stuff" that makes up the atom is because we keep looking. So we will never find out what an atom is made out of because the more we look, the more that is generated. Kind of like the mandelbrot set if you are familiar with fractals. Going back to what I said concerning that atoms act like waves and particles, quantum science has proven that atoms behave differently depending if there is an observer there to watch it all happen. Look up the double slit experiment if you want to see what I mean officially but I will summarize it for you. They conducted an experiment with atoms/electrons and found that the results of the experiement had two different outcomes and the only variable that changed was a human being observing it. Meaning atoms behaved differently if they were viewed during the experiment vs. is they were not viewed during the experiment. A way to visualize this, that will blow your mind, is to think of your refridgerator. The food/stuff inside of your fridge does not exist, and the atoms that compose all the food/stuff in your fridge act as "waves" meaning they can not be measured/seen by the human eye. Meaning they do not exist as real as you and I would define it, you can not hold or touch the stuff inside the fridge because it is not a solid thing. BUT when an observer opens the fridge they find food as you would expect when you open a fridge and that is because until you are there looking at it the atoms act like waves are not solid until you look at them, then the atoms snap into place and become particles. Particles meaning real, tangible things you can pick up, look at, and look at with a microscope to see the atoms. If there is no person there to look at what is in the fridge then the atoms act as waves and are not real things you can pick up, look at, or see with a microscope to view the atoms. This is PROVEN by science and is what quantum science is. You literally create your own reality. This game is basically how quantum science tries to paint the universe when described by this new branch of science we discovered a decade ago.
@@Marco-zt2jj so does a tree make a sound when it falls if there is no one around? if you read what I read above then the answer is no. And this is scientifically proven.
the more i hear about this game the more i want to buy it
The dev is so passionate about it, they wont mess this up
One thing that I never understood was how they store players' modifications on the environment. Sure, an algorithm can just re-generate and delete data of a specific location every time you load and unload that location, but what if a player digs into the ground? If you unload and reload that location, the hole would be gone, right? Or does the server save ONLY the data of player modifications and layers them on top of an algorithm's render? So then the location would be loaded from scratch using the algorithms, and then the tiny piece of information stored in the game save file or the server about the player's hole would be added onto the location. That's kind of a really damn smart optimization if I'm right about it.
it will be like this. either it just saves exactly the changes the player made or the complete chunks where something is changed (chunk, an area of maybe 32*32*32 blocks or whatever size they have). I try to do my own terrain engine, but as i am alone and every aspect is quite complex, i don't know if it ever comes what i want it to be …
PS: Would love to play around with the NMS engine …
what you meant to say was
it's the epitomy of organized chaos. A method to absolute mathematical madness. a universe that statistically outsizes our own (by our current understanding)
this masterpiece of a game will have lasting effects on humanity.
Nope. You fell for the marketing. This is just deterministic procedural generation. Minecraft maps had seeds right? This is just a game where everyone has the same seed. No different. Any talk other than that is marketing.
hahahahahahaa holy shit i'm having a fucking blast
Lmao, yep, you fell for the marketing. What a flop.
When I think of No Mans Sky and playing it, some white fluid appears is in my pants.
Ikr it's so wierd
+pikachew weird*
+PieNinjaProductions | Gaming and IRL! then you are an idiot .... seriousli this game will be sooooo boooring !!!!
SPORE HIPE ALL OVERAGAIN
+Nereknu Vamnic 18 quintillion planets, you moron. That's a fucking enormous amount of gameplay
+Nereknu Vamnic it's with not whit learn how to spell
This is one of the rare, innovative games that deserve full price on launch day. Looks absolutely fantastic.
5:05 "The standard way to create the stuff of videogames is to have designers and artists build everything by hand" he says, while the hand-crafted creatures and landscapes of the E3 trailer roll by :-P
According to this theory of limitless possibilities in the universe of "no man's sky", isn't it possible for someone to find a planet that resembles our earth, with blue sky, green trees, and cats included?
First of all the possibilities are not limitless. They are many but not infinite. Secondly, that depends on their algorithms. If, as the developer said, wavelength and humidity play into a planet's atmosphere color and they set up their parametres in a realistic fashion (looks more cartoony, exaggerated to me) then a planet with the same humidity and distance from a sun similar to ours would resemble Earth visually. I don't know how animal species and foliage are generated, what rules their visual design follows. Again, if they are set up in a realistic fashion then obviously Earth would be populated by mostly green/brown plants, reptilians, insects, mammals etc. and he did say that cats are in the game so an Earth-like planet could feature them.
This mathematically procedural generated universe kind of mimics what an alternate universe might be like with its own laws of physics right down to the different ecosystems. The different algorithms that are applied mirrors mother nature and DNA.
Lance Miller I gained 70000000 new brain cells.
For a future installment, I'd love to see natural selection determine how species evolve and which survive. The ability to tame certain animals depending on their breed, etc. Aside from animals, it would be really cool to have an ability to find rare elements or maybe even artifacts depending on the planet you find. The limits are endless.
the idea behind this is really great. think of it this way, in standard games everything is always there every pixel every MB which can build up to 20 even 40GB of data for games that only have 1 maybe 2 cities or areas to explore.... with this idea you can have much more places at any given time hidden with in mathematical algorithms... with this implemented into games as big as say WoW it could cut down its data size significantly, which will also cut down load times... sure it only loads when you get to that area but its only loading/generating for you... as for other people in the area it loads and generates that same data only for them. i live when indy developers think outside of the box and come up with something that can revolutionize the way we play games...
that makes a LOT of sense. Create the hand crafted core-gameplay. Then have procedurally generated extra stuff to flesh it out. makes sense to me.
Algorythms also take alot of hard drive space ;)
TheBananaMan yes but with algorythms you can have more content in a single equation then you could with the standard file type. 20GB could hold maybe 50GB of data all hidden with in the algorythms... also if i may add everything is algorythm and mathematics... everything can be broken down into numbers. :)
Kinda like The matrix "codes"?
TheBananaMan duno if you're joking or not but algorithms don't take up much space at all..like almost nothing :)
I love Carl Sagan COSMOS and the new COSMOS hosted by Neil Degrass Tyson. This game was made for me because it similar to my favorite show. To the developer, I hope creatures we encounter doesn't have to have four legs or swimming. That will make it similar to Earth.
Neil ty sucks. Not even close to Carl Sagan.
dorianjp
Brian Cox is better than both. Nyaaaaaah
Alec Reaper
Carl Sagan,correction.
Not swimming? then how will water life exist
Bro did you see those massive snake things? That was badass
This is the game I have imagined for so long, and I think others will have too, if its done right then this will be amazing, but it will be hard to do, can't wait for it, well that's if I can ever afford a gaming pc
Its also on ps4
I'm Alienware haves the X51 PC.
Idk how much but I find the community better on PC than console unless it's Nintendo.
You don't need a gaming PC. Just any old 6 year old PC would do. Get the GTX 750 Ti for $150 and your set to get graphics better than both consoles.
I think it is a PS4 exclusive.
It's only on PS4 for now
You can tell he enjoyed explaining how this worked. Smiling all the way through. I love it. That's gonna be my dream job one day.
"born too late to discover the earth,
born to early to discover the stars"
heh, not anymore it seems, cant wait for this!
IF this works out it will be revolutionary in terms of procedural generation, the biggest thing since Minecraft and other game of the sort. But I am skeptical of how well it will work.
This needs to be on the computer plz! This truly looks next gen, finally!
YESH!
***** they never said that stop lying they said there thinking about it the only thing confirmed is ps4
***** they never said that stop lying they said there thinking about it the only thing confirmed is ps4
toye larry Yeah they did-
www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=is%20no%20man's%20sky%20coming%20to%20pc
Look at the second line of text below the first link.
u can either get a PS4 or wait a year for it to launch on PC... up to you... its like the next Tomb Raider game its a 1 year timed exclusive for XB1 from what i keep hearing. and like most times exclusives by the time it comes to the other consoles or PC its either outdated or dead.
As a programmer and a hardcore gamer this just gives you chills It makes your jaws drop and you wanna study it's source code and play it right now!
I hope we get something like a favorites list for this game! Think about it, you save the coordinates for a planet into your ship, or communication device, and you can return there whenever to see the beauty of the planet or its inhabitants.
This game might get me to but a ps4
its on pc too!
And x1
it's only confirmed for ps4
Yeah but Phil spencer is tight with hello games there is no way that it won't be on xbox eventually
This is the exact reason why we keep seeing exclusive 3rd party deals nobody likes. Sony pretty much paid them to not acknowledge the PC or Xbox One version that's pretty much already been confirmed. Same goes with the 3rd party deals Microsoft makes. It borders the line of complete dishonesty in marketing.
Such math, much physics, want now!
Great video guys. Loved the editing and format as well as content.
I don't care if they fu** it up or live every inch up to the hype...
What ever happens... they introduced the gaming industry a fairly new way of thinking.....
which could benefit future games...
+Dark Mist not new :-)
No?
+Dark Mist Nope Spyro the Dragon introduced this concept on the PS1 but obviously the hardware was limited by the amount the game could render at any given time, textures/model and lines of code in itself.
Glad the idea of pre rendering has been introduced, this is how virtual reality will thrive in the future.
***** ps1.. damn...
So old.. I'm so uninformed..
THANX for caring to share your knowledge..
Oh sorry, it's NOT pre rendered~.
I was half asleep...
It's rendered in real time.
Pre rendered is what Final Fantasy is notorious for, but will ultimately be it's downfall.
This is fine but we only see earth-kind planets. What about ocean-kind planets, metal-kind planets, ice-kind planets and Jupiter-kind planets?
Watch more gameplay; there are a lot of different planets, including almost all of the types that you listed.
You have multiple variants of planets. Take earth for an example, but I don't understand what you mean by earth like planets because they have oceans, and technically called an ocean planet, but anyways there will be different kinds of of planet. I would suggest to stay in one particular solar system and defend it from intruders
Nekrolai240591 Jupiter kind of planets (Gas giants) won't be in the game since there would be no useful purpose for them. Yes to the rest though except for metal planet since this isn't Dragon Ball Z.
Nekrolai240591 The amount of planets is virtually limitless. It's obvious that there will be all kinds of planets.
If I would have time and if I was not so overly hyped when I was done watching this video. I would write a long text telling everyone everything I love in this game. I've waited for this game, for so freaking long. Im amazed of what the universe. The laws of physics and all the planets, how they work and just how life was created in general.
If this game fails. Im going to literary cry my self to sleep that day the message came to me. I don't want to wait another 15 years or something like that to see another game this great. Its literally the only thing I've been looking for in my gaming head. A open world space game where everything is almost like the real world. They are actually thinking of mathematic algorithms to make this game perfect.
I will support this game to 100% and if this doesn't come to PC I will be so sad. But even then I'm going to probably buy a ps4 just to play this game. Please, PLEASE PLEASE do NOT fail this game.
One thing I would love is if you went out of one planet you wouldn't just see a red fog that is suppose to cover all the black that the universe really is (watch the E3 reveal) I want to see distant galaxies and stars and everything that makes the universe so beautiful. I know that it isn't just stars and lights everywhere when you go beyond our planet in real life but still. You are making a game where you can make dreams come true..
Wow it seems that I DID write a long post about the game... I seriously did not expect this XD
It'll be on PC from what I've heard.
Jegicci PC and PS4 with simultaneous launch on both platforms.
We are augmented fractal vessels in and holographic universe
+klaik30 I love your honesty man. Cheers
I'll never understand the hype there was for NMS, what was your idea about this game? I was surprised when the game finally came out and almost everybody was disappointed. Yes there have been lies etc, but even in old videos it was showed nothing more than what you could actually do in game at launch, so just traveling around watching new things over and over in an uninhabited universe. I think that most people don't like an universe in which you're alone, there have to be other civilizations also on planets.
You talk about this game like it's the most ambitious game ever made, so lots of stars? ED also has a huge universe. Procedural generation? Look at what 2008 Spore did and tell me the difference. Laws of physics and "everything almost like in the real world"? Compare it to KSP and come back. It always seemed too simplistic, cartoonish, with colors everywhere, how can you say it's realistic?
I've always been skeptic about this game and have yet to understand what did you expect. If somebody cares to explain me I'll hear, but really, it seems just another normal game, nothing revolutionary. I think that it was Sony sponsoring it that made a large audience come in contact with it, but if you look for revolutionary games you can find plenty more ambitious than this
I'm entirely entertained just from watching them talk about how the game works. This is true beauty
But what about alterations on the environment? How is that stored? I mean, if I destroy an asteroid, will it appear there again when i come back to the same place?
+Marco Aurélio Hoegen yeah i was wondering that to
+Marco Aurélio Hoegen Its stuff like that they probably realized near the end of the cycle that got the game pushed back so far.
if any of you find an answer please comment cause I was wondering about this too
+Marco Aurélio Hoegen I was wondering also
apparently smaller things like damage to rocks will be reset but big things like a destroyed space station will remain and have results on the rest of the galaxy
This is The first indi game ever worth getting a console over
This guy is an absolute genius.
Aside from the incredible amount of ingenuity in this universe, the only downside I see, by this mathematical word generation, is that if it's truly only mathematically generated with only the player position as input, you can't affect your surroundings. Say you kill an animal, if this information is not stored, the next time the world is calculated with your position as input, the animal will still be there since the base equation haven't changed.
Their passion is contagious - best of luck for the project!
So, if you will destroy mountain, it's like deleting 2 from 2+3+4? That's sooo frikin' smart
Yes, because if you could look at a games at theirs basic level, you would see only 0 and 1.Not only games, every thing that you can do on computer is reduced on calculating numbers....
Math it's used in a lot of stuff, you'll be surprised how much it can be of use.
Sparky
I know how much thing use math. Just deleting whole planet from game, then recreating it... Just never saw technolohy like this.
from just a 7 man team too!
Simple Jack and a Horse
0010 0011 0100
I would argue that there is increasing evidence that reality is more like no man's sky than it appears to be.
look into holographic universe theory and noetic sciences
reality seems to be some kind of collective feedback loop.
***** This would only make sense if the game was about time travel or cryostasis or something. I haven't heard anything in this direction so I'll assume it's just a regular old game where you fly around in a world that essentially stays the way it is. Except there's a lot happening where most games are less dynamic.
Yes indeed! I was suspecting this for quite some time. Cool stuff!
***** Holographic universe theory is not pseudoscience. Why do you think it is?
***** dumbass
*****
You need to open your mind more. As Morning morality is explaining above, there is no reason in say a couple 100 years we could create an entire universe based on mathematics.
If you wanted to create a universe from scratch you would need a multitude of self propagating mathematics.
You could look at the big bang as a point of 0. Then something beyond us placed a seed, placed their equations and matter. Then hit enter and boom.
You have a growing universe.
You throw around the word pseudoscience alot, but we have become so advance and understand so much that we're at a point that theres no way we could create results in a lab that are falsifiable. We are looking so deep and far into what makes up our universe we have to ask nonsense questions.
Science is heading towards an age that is going to be just nonsense, just look at particle physics, Its insane. We need people that are not locked into these preconceptions about science and what is. We need people who think extremely abstractly and outside reality. Its the only way we're going to advance further into understanding where we come from and what we are.
That last part.... Are you fucking kidding me? This game is just awe inspiring
And here we are..
No man’s sky vr..
This work looks so beautifully gorgeous and immersive. Some part of me hopes that we get to hunt. Not that I'm some evil bloodthirsty killer, but I feel like flying to a planet and just walking around and looking at the life would only work for about 20 minutes. Hunting lets you remain immersed (even more so because you need to pay attention to surroundings and the behavior of the animals, etc.) but also gives you a goal or reward.
Dont get too carried away with your trigger finger lol. The Galactic police protect the wildlife and will try to stop you
Yes you can hunt but they have their own version of PETA in the game that will hunt you down for illegal hunting. Which honestly make the game that much more fun, you can trade off what you have found, captured (or possibly what you stole) for money to fund your exploration, or your adventures as a heartless space pirate.
I would so fucking be a bounty hunter in this game, going from planet to planet killing greedy fuckers with an insatiable taste for goatelopes.
What would make this game better in my opinion is if you start in your blank world and you must visit other planets and collect resources animals species plants water etc and bring it back to your planet and make it unique ...maybe that way every planet becomes unique and the better your planet and full of life the more you have explored .
Don't Try and change a game they have barely revealed anything about and why would you want that this is a game about exploring and infinite possibilities
Exactly what I said exploring don't try to argue I said it's my opinion kid go watch the world cup instead
mrshyboi1 or you could just play minecraft >_> you have an entire galaxy to explore and you want to go back to the same planet over and over?
Go over and over no that's why you go to other ones every time ? Read it please if you don't wanna go back to same planets then it would be a quick fast paced game guns are in it so maybe shooter is how you want it then idk why
mrshyboi1
lol u suk haha
When he talked about the mountain and the tree I was like "yup...Would you like fries with that?"
i love how they made it realistic to how it is in are world like if the planets in the golden zone like ares it has water an stuff thats pretty cool
This game looks sick im just worried about lag...
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and I cryed
I know me too :(
Rick Grimes Do it, Rick.
Rick Grimes then take it to a doctor
Is mayonnaise an instrument?
Rabitmix ...YES! :D
+Rabitmix that's what i've called my chello, so yes; yes it is..
Mayonnaise is hard as shit to play though....took me 12 years just to get a basic understanding
+omega pancake but horseradish is pretty simple ;)
I am so excited for this game, the best thing is that it has developers who actually know what their talking about, not just guessing and hoping. an example would be the logic behind every CoD there is.
To be honest, they could have used this system to sell procedurally generated 3D Model characters, allowing people to use sliders to adjust and change certain properties. Great video, I enjoyed it!
Almost sounds like a berserk version of spore... I loved spore! :D
Future of gaming, the future of technology. Next this with the occulus rift hopefully
I agree.
You created a game larger than the entire observable universe, amazing job!
no mans sky is like a real life digimon universe
DRINKING GAME!!!
Take a shot everytime he say's the word 'procedural'
Uncl Dolan hayurh oi thunk i dranuk to much lelz
Uncl Dolan mathematical*
+Uncl Dolan Nah, take a drink every time he says the word "Right."
More like take a shot every time they delay the release date...
Honestly, I'm sold. I've always wanted a game like this. This is my dream game! I thought I was gonna get with the planet update in Space Engineers, but that was a huge disappointment. This game feels real, and enticing! I'm ready! Take my money! IIIIII NEEEEED IIIIIIIIIT!!!
***** 27 hours in and I love it!
***** Actually there is quite a bit of diversity despite what everyone says.
***** Well opinions are opinions
So you've been fooled.
Hinkleton How ya doin
This is the game I have been trying to do but never get done. Looks awesome.
I almost feel like I'm in a class viewing this video. Well done!
Gotta say this game feels like the first next gen game ever. We are at the beginning with dissapointing games, but once we get a year or two in games like this will come falling from the trees, and those days will be good days.
It happened
Who the hell doesn't want to fly around space land on a planet and find alien sharks? BEST GAME EVER 10/10 GAME OF THE MILLENIA!
I like how happy he is when he talks about the mechanics that make it all work :3
Good to see people enjoying their job :D
Would be cool to meet space-anomalies like those in Star Trek... Wormholes, nebula and all the other suff..
They have confirmed black holes, and said there are no gas giants. They want there to be "game play reasons" for why these things exist. Apparently they thought of a reason for black holes but not for gas giants, which you can't land on and would be more of just eye candy I guess. Does this mean gas isn't a resource in the game?
A second point, Minecraft does EXACTLY this, so why does minecraft servers sometimes run into disc storage issues? Because they allow players to change the environment and store the difference from the mathmatical formula to what the player has changed it to, so unless you completely remove the players ability to interact with the environment, you'll still get issues.
I think it has something to do with the way Minecraft stores its data and also has something to do with the fact a lot of servers are just run on regular old PCs that are not really built for being a server.
Well, the way they describe it, I don't think that world you impact will stay impacted for anyone else, or even for you in future visits, because the game doesn't save anything from that planet when you leave it.
This leads me to believe that anything to do on a planet will be (actually) randomly generated on entry, and it won't involve any sort of impact on the geography or wildlife. Pirates flying around, some box you can collect etc
Booone008 That sums it up pretty well. If they are telling the truth about not wanting to store anything, then there will be no persistent change or they do want to store the changes and they're just BSing in the video.
Booone008 I don't think that "not storing anything" is something they necessarily want, but a reality they have to accept
They can have a ridiculously huge number of planets because they don't store anything about those planets. Unless they have a tutorial planet, when you download the game, you aren't downloading the full makeup of ANY single planet. They are all made up on the fly, based on the universal algorithms.
So if they had to start storing changes, I imagine they have to start storing planets
absurdentropy I could have sworn I saw somewhere that if you take resources from a planet then those resources won't be available to other players on that same planet. Wouldn't that be somewhat changing that planet/formula?
What if we were created like that..
Who's to say we wasn't..
weren't **
i think we were,, but god game in a created man in a special way as for others he just gave them certain rules and let nature take its course, in effect what we think of creation as something awesome and complicated is acturely quite simple
Mulberry2000
Wow you really can get high on religion can't you? Otherwise how could you possibly have notions that crazy?
5:37 before any updates were implemented on GTA V nothing popped in, it all used to fade in in such a way that you never noticed it. i only know this because when i got the game on the midnight release i was blown away by how good it all looked, and since the with every periodic update they make it takes away from the single-player graphics, and now things pop in. you can just delete the updates to see what i mean, and you'll notice a difference, and don't worry, you can put the updates back on after if you want (ive done this myself so don't worry it wont bosh ur game). but yeah, everything used to fade into view when GTA V first came out, its something i miss very much since the new updates.
There are interesting programmign competitions that have been doing this from scratch for some time, interesting concept to be added to a game. cool stuff
Now all we need is full-dive technology and this will be the future of the world.
What about AI? So if someone chops all the trees down, will some animals die off while others start taking over?
probably, good question hhmmm... some may use the tres to hide from predators and then the predators may make them extingt
The "fractle" pattern for animals like he was saying, allows infinite possibilities. If you destroy this mining facility on planet A, the next person wont be able to use its resources, meaning months down the line he wont be the one to do something that is game changing. Its the butterfly effect, and its in a game.. and its WONDERFUL.
Nice that it remembers what happened
Tobi snider But if he destroys something in a planet and then flies away, if he comes back isn't the planet intact again? They don't store the data it's all just generated.
i love this developer hes so happy about his game and letting loose of his idea's to the world he can't help but smile and laugh it makes me want it more!
This game has gotten me really excited about the future of gaming, I mean 5 billion years to complete it if 1 second is spent on each planet? The scale of it is utterly massive. It leaves so much room for new games, focused on autonomy and freedom to pop up and start replacing the stock standard "you do this" style of game.
Although I respect those games and those who enjoy them (this type has been the most common throughout history and will continue to play a major role in gaming) I really can't wait to see where this level of sandbox takes us. Will we finally be able to get the ultimate sandbox, in which every action you take has a reaction and the game is a never ending cycle of life? I don't know, but I'm hoping more games like this start to pop up.
We've got some exciting stuff to look forward to.
This is ingenious
Genius.
Rodina is very much like this! It's in Alpha but as seamless plant crossing and you can customise the ship! There a free demo on steam.
The guy sound humble for a man with such innovative idea.
Is it possible to lose your ship in this game say land on a planet walk for miles turn around and realise 'oh shit where's my space ship' and then your lost with no ride of the planet??????
You probably will have a constant waypoint on your ship, at least that's what I hope.
Anyone else think he kinda looks like Tobuscus? Or Toby Turner?
They are probably using the player's multiplied x,y,z position to get a number to use as a seed to generate things close to the player. Nothings needs to be stored because when the player position is the same, the same outcome will that number have and things will generate around that position. It's a bit more complicated than that but that is a rough explanation.
I don't really understand what he was talking about' but with all the things I did understand I just know that this is the future of gaming'
Can't wait to get this on my Xbox One
I don't think its on xbox m8. Sorry
mikey gordon not confirmed atleast (but you're probably right)
It's only debuting on ps4 so it should come on pc and xb1
it most likely wont come out on the Xbox1. probably on the pc, but not comfirmed
I thought this was a timed exclusive. Correct me if I'm wrong
Not for PC ? darn guess ill half to find another game lol
I don't own a gaming pc but 1. it's probably gonna end up on steam a year or two later and 2. this game called Star Citizen is supposed to be arriving some time soon which looks fairly promising.
www.elitedangerous.com/
This is NMS on steroids. This is the second most anticipated Space game/sim currently on the list, yet only a select number know of it's existence. Why? Because who cares about PR? That's why.
If it comes on steam ill get it other then that not gonna happen.
Josh Adamik it won't. Plus its 75 dollars at the moment. But suit yourself if you so wish, as for the rest of us, the milky way won't suffer without you.
GoldVault . Lol you can't compare Star Citizen to NMS, not only SC is on another level of detail and depth, but it is a simulator, so it's going to be a bitch to fly. Which means a lot of people won't put up with the controls and complexity of the game, and NMS is an arcade, it's meant to be easy, simple enough for anyone to pick it up and goof around and enjoy. So they may look similar but they are on opposite sides of the spectrum.
This game is so beyond any other game ever created, it's not even worth comparing. Everything is perfect: The concept, the execution, the music/sound effects, the logo and slogan and of course, a very intelligent team. Similar to my view of Interstellar that was better than any movie ever made for so many reasons - IMHO.
I've been waiting for a game like this all my life.
so if i leave a planet, it will be erased and when i get back it will be RE-CREATED by the procedural algorythms, but.... what if i left something that didnt belong to that planet in the first place? the procedural algorithm will re-create only the things that belonged to THAT planet. What will happen to the outside objects you left in them after you leave the planet? Will they be back aswell, will those objects be lost forever once i leave the planet behind?
it'll just add it to the algorithm.
GoldVault . i'm agree with you.. But we don't know exactly how it works this algorithm...if is created very well as described..well..it's amazing! Everything is created with a procedural formula and which has to be "there" , will be there! But...we don't know what could happen if you "modify" something...
Davide Dellai the algorithm will be modified. its that simple :)
He said in the video that if a tree falls when u come back the tree will still be there
You don't modify the algorithm, they would probably start out with a base layer that persists changes to a server or database and apply all other procedural algorithms to that. In that way the world responds appropriately to said changes. Algorithms apply universally, you cannot change an algorithm for an individual exception like a object that has been left (technically you can but it's highly undesirable).
So, if I fly to a planet and I destroy that tree, does that destruction persist when I leave? If not, what is the point of conflict or meta-game relationships? If our changes to the universe do not persist, why have conflict, resource scarcity or any other second-level organization? There's no point to it.
The change is saved locally to your system forever.
Yes, the tree will still be destroyed. If someone else comes along and blows up a mountain, you can return to find that the mountain is no longer there.
+Kyran Sawhill Wait, how do you know that?
Sean Murray mentioned it in one or two of his interviews. Though he did say tiny, unnoticeable changes (like a foot-sized crater) wouldn't be there forever.
Kyran Sawhill Oh, okay. Thank you.
This game is like a human perception game, from how he described that equation. Put it like this; say my house is in my perception. It's there, and will always be there until I walk away, then it's nothing, but a part of the void (the things I can't see). It's only regenerated in my neurotransmitters as "my house" when I can perceive it again. That is what I thought of when they talked about that equation. I could be way off with what they were implying...
I'v watched at least 5 times now and it still amazes me that the water in the atmosphere refracts the light like in hour world. Its just so cool!
What if our universe is (like in this game) a simulation and we are programmed to do all the shit we do?
Yup.
+Alejandro Funes some1 who made our universe is on so much higher level :p but this theory is VERY realistic.
+Damien Spencer you are probably the world's smartest man.
+Alejandro Funes I think something/someone we would call a god, pushed some form of simple algorithm into the nothingness of space and from there fractally/procedurally everything came to be, it sprouted out from a single point of a simple god code. (Maybe that artifact you probably find in the center of 'No Man's Sky' is that single point from which everything started/sprouted, it's the heart of the game...i think :3)
Antithesis We're playing on hard mode.
I'm loving what I'm seeing but what is gonna be the objective in this game?? is it gonna have a story mode campaign? is it online? what do you do besides roaming around these beautifull worlds??
Its an online game, but at the same time not. You, and every other player, are dropped on a different planet, as in no player spawns on the same planet ever. You can meet up with other players, but you can't do much with them. The goal is to reach the centre of the galaxy, and the game gets harder and harder the further in you get, so to get there, you have to upgrade your weapons, amour and ship by physically landing on planets and gathering resources to upgrade them. There is also, as you can see from this video, combat, both in space and on the ground. You can destroy other ships and other enemies and you can get cash to spend at space stations, although this has only been lightly mentioned by Sean, so we don't know if it's actually in there. But yeah, the whole point is to explore and enjoy. No story, no missions, no epic quest. Just you going on an adventure. And one hell of an adventure it will be.
p.s sorry for the incredibly long response.
Grand-Master Kojima Well it sounds pretty awesome :) let's hope they don't slap a subscription plan on it
Miller710
Nah, there won't be a subscription, Hello Games aren't assholes *cough cough* ZENIMAX *cough cough* Elder Scrolls Online *cough cough*
lol :p I hope so :p anyways this game is an instant buy for me then
Grand-Master Kojima pretty much this, except the online part. Yes its multiplayer but given the vast size of the galaxy, they said it is very unlikely that you would ever meet with another player, so you will fly solo most of the time
This is really just explaining our physical reality in mathematical terms. Seeing life in a new perspective. I am dumbfounded by how far 0's and 1's have come.
2:04 2001 A Space Odyssey inspiration?