The fact that tanner was holding back greatly just to show how he's changed and play fair, and was still getting the better of harvey and mike just shows how dangerous a lawyer he can be. Love how he can very easily go to being bad in a second and get harvey riled up immediately with a few words just to show if he really wanted to, he couldve gine hard from the start. Also sidenote. Gretchen is just soooo mich better than Donna.
Gretchen is better than Donna because she has had tons of secretary experience in her life while Donna just does what she does. But Donna is better for the firm because knows the people there.
A "changed" man, doesn't resort back to old tactics. That's a fake man that puts on a front until it doesn't work. And before we start this whole whole conversation of "hes acting that's a character" (which I'm not accusing you of going that route before it does) I just don't want the conversation because the comment was about the character so if that's your route we can end the back and forth before it begins. I think he is portrayed masterfully by the writers and actor, and yes a wonderful lawyer because of the fact that he doesn't care whatsoever about what toes he steps on. Lets just not trump it up. Have a nice day!
@@ElectrumSZN He resorted to his old tactics because Harvey crossed the line first. Like the original comment said, Tanner could have started with that from the beginning like he always used to but he is a changed man.
For the record, all of Harvey's W vs Tanner was all because of Mike. If it ain't for golden boy Harvey would've lost every time he goes up against Tanner.
This is something I don't see highlighted enough. Harvey, during the entire run of Suits, very rarely wins in court himself/with his own research. Mike (or someone else) regularly delivers what he needs. We never *really* see Harvey alone being an incredible lawyer, which made me really sad. (this is very noticeable during a binge watch)
@@nerdock4747tbf, he gets people to go look for the specific stuff he needs. In some cases he'll bounce ideas off Mike and vice versa. Harvey however can still win a lot of cases.
i say rule 1 never talk about someone mother without getting punch if u still talking about it with an EX as will then u just asking for it.... if the punch happen off hours & on the street then that be different
If this was a real trial a judge would have granted a TRO. Just because someone was a minor 10 years ago doesn't carry any weight since the contract was enforceable when she became 18 and has been cashing in the cheques.
Not US citizen, not lawyer but that depends, when she is 18 she has to be given a NEW contract she can underwrite herself, otherwise it can bee seen as being eiforced under duress which makes any and all contracts null and void.
@@bentalexranebundgaard4867 not really, she continued to benefit form the contract she signed 10 years ago. So that contract automatically became legal form the moment she turned 18. She doesn't get to benefit from a contract she signed as a minor and then turned an adult, but when it no longer servered her intrests the contact is no longer valid. There have been trials like this in the states where the judges have treated the contract as viable.
@@bentalexranebundgaard4867if the contract has not been amended or altered. Then the second she cashed in that first cheque after turning 18 would lock in that contract as binding. The only time it would be unenforceable is if the stuff in question happened during those 2 years. It's not the same as prenuptial agreements like in Liar Liar. Corporate employment agreements have different laws. If she wants to go down the route of trying to claim the tech she produced for him on his dime, as her own. Then he could always turn around and charge her for all the other bills that came with her creating that tech. Like the office space, supplies, electricity, personnel, etc. Either way, she'll lose big, even more so that she went and made it personnel with the harassment claim to use bias in her favor, nor caring how her lie would affect his personal life.
@@navi2710It doesn't automatically become legal just because she's now an adult. They can argue in court that both parties treated it as though it was legal, but that requires a judge to rule (which is what the judge was saying to them).
@@seanp2871 yes it does. When she became an adult she had plenty of time to challange the contract but instead carried on benefiting with it as it was.
It's not so much Tanner getting under Harvey's skin, it's more that Harvey can't even imagine that Tanner is capable of changing his ways because of all their prior conflicts.
I mean, she knowingly bent rules and wants to try and take the whole cake while burning everyone around her. Serves her right that when she tried to make it personal, that she gets it right back.
It's been a while since this show is NOT on Air but I still gets hook by every single clip, I think actually I know we need SUIT back please so Gabriel start getting the Pearson Specter Litt Zane together so we can enjoy THE BEST tv show In the world
Funny thing about this whole thing is that how can they lock up Alissa Lang's company offices based on debts she incurred Violates the basic purpose of company law... separate legal personality Crazy this series motivated me to study law now all I see are it's inconsistencies😂😂
The best part is that as a 16 year old she has no legal right to ownership of property. Which means she has blatantly committed fraud. So if she keeps her property she goes to federal prison.
So the thing is, as the contract is null because she was 16, her contract is invalid, which means it was made on their product and with no contract they have ownership of which she has no rights. Solely because it's the equipment she was provided. Even if she was 18 when she made it, it was solely their equipment and she has an invalid contract so she has less then zero rights to anything on the companies property.
Actually, since she was a minor when entering into the contract, it being non enforceable leaves them even more high and dry. The normal stipulations about ownership of properties created on company property cannot be both applied and rejected. If the employment contract is void under the law, so are the protections of company ownership because she could not be an employee accountable to company terms
So... the only real problem with that is by being null and void if it's on their property ie laptop or other company device, she has just fallen into the most inconvenient possibility of corporate espionage. In the case she has no employer, not self employed but no employer she would suffer all the ramifications as an individual. Edit to add. The on there property is not the same as on there premises. It's intact a theft if product for another company. Espionage.
So she’s not been an employee for 10 years in the eyes of the law, and her IP does not automatically go to the company. But generally, courts also require restitution for those who were deceived by misrepresentation of age. A share in the venture is a fair idea, but the percentage is debatable. Personally I would have asked for more if they were threatening to escalate with a harassment case on top of the initial fraud.
Tanner should’ve bad a a bigger role than Hardman after Hardman left. Tanner was the one rival that could under Harvey’s skin but Hardman was just like a baby every time he came back
@@Mothman1992you're right. It's not written into criminal code. It's written into case law which often gets more favor than criminal code. And there is A LOT of case law in favor of fighting words.
Yes.. Thomas fortino messed up my car when i asked for help with the AC. then it got the whole computer system shut down.. no dealer would fix it.. I gave it to him in exchange for staying in his trailer and now he's messing up the trailer.. I thought he could fix the car and sell it for plenty. I also still pay him monthly rent.
I don't understand why people enjoy watching TV shows that glorify immorality. There are people like the characters in this show in real life. Are they people to be admired?
@@ntlespino because the system makes it that way. There wouldn't be these problems if sick people didn't control the minds of the masses, yet people choose not to see it or counteract. Point proven.
Man tanner really knows how to get under Harvey’s skin. That line was so perfectly written
cant help but imagine tanner joins the firm after harvey quit to seattle
The fact that tanner was holding back greatly just to show how he's changed and play fair, and was still getting the better of harvey and mike just shows how dangerous a lawyer he can be.
Love how he can very easily go to being bad in a second and get harvey riled up immediately with a few words just to show if he really wanted to, he couldve gine hard from the start.
Also sidenote. Gretchen is just soooo mich better than Donna.
Gretchen is better than Donna because she has had tons of secretary experience in her life while Donna just does what she does. But Donna is better for the firm because knows the people there.
A "changed" man, doesn't resort back to old tactics. That's a fake man that puts on a front until it doesn't work. And before we start this whole whole conversation of "hes acting that's a character" (which I'm not accusing you of going that route before it does) I just don't want the conversation because the comment was about the character so if that's your route we can end the back and forth before it begins. I think he is portrayed masterfully by the writers and actor, and yes a wonderful lawyer because of the fact that he doesn't care whatsoever about what toes he steps on. Lets just not trump it up. Have a nice day!
@@ElectrumSZN He resorted to his old tactics because Harvey crossed the line first. Like the original comment said, Tanner could have started with that from the beginning like he always used to but he is a changed man.
That last sentence is wrong
@@jasonmoukala8909 ok simp
Tanner was the villain this show needed more of.
Him and Forstman! Forstman seemed like the only guy Harvey was afraid of
yeahh... but he's crazily annoyinggg... both him and forstman
Yeah, I wouldn’t have been upset seeing Harvey light Tanner up like he did Steven a few more times….
What?! Why?!
@@17PAT17 because of what Forstman did 12 years ago to harvey, he wouldn't want anything to do with him anymore
For the record, all of Harvey's W vs Tanner was all because of Mike. If it ain't for golden boy Harvey would've lost every time he goes up against Tanner.
This is something I don't see highlighted enough. Harvey, during the entire run of Suits, very rarely wins in court himself/with his own research. Mike (or someone else) regularly delivers what he needs. We never *really* see Harvey alone being an incredible lawyer, which made me really sad. (this is very noticeable during a binge watch)
@@nerdock4747tbf, he gets people to go look for the specific stuff he needs. In some cases he'll bounce ideas off Mike and vice versa. Harvey however can still win a lot of cases.
Well Harvey settled like 99% of his DA cases, he doesn't go to court unless he's sure he wins@@nerdock4747
Tanner v Harvey were the best battles in the series
Love how one guy in a suit punches another guy in a suit in the middle of Manhattan and nobody seems to notice.
They likely noticed, they just don't care.
Very on brand for Manhattan imo
Manhattan is not a home on the prairie. You learn to mind your own business very, very quickly.
It's New York, stranger things than that happen six times an hour.
i say rule 1 never talk about someone mother without getting punch if u still talking about it with an EX as will then u just asking for it.... if the punch happen off hours & on the street then that be different
1:21 made me spit out my coffee haha, love when you work on pleadings and that happens aye !
Suits needed more Gretchen
Fax
She was such a strong character, and never annoying, simple amazing acting
Her sass was always legendary
her holding Tanner was wrong. You dont hold a Man like that.
@@Vishnuk-fe9ivnope.. She is holding Tanner like holding a young kid, teaching him how to behave in someone's property
Tanner is the only one to get under Harvey’s skin and I love it
elliot stample ?
@@mehmetatila675 not close
@@cantemiz9922 bro harvey never won against him
@@mehmetatila675 sinirini bozamıyor o kadar, tanner lavuğuna yumruk attı 2 cümle laf yüzünden
Foreman
Harvey spector, the great lawyer that cant control his emotions AT ALL..
Love it or hate it Tanner knew how to push buttons!!🔥
Honestly watching a Travis Tanner v Saul Goodman case would be epic.
Saul would wipe the floor with tanner
which judge tries with the hunger excuse to excuse the matter like that hahahaha
And thank you for posting the whole scene
are we not going to talk about that title of the video? It's perfection.
Travis Tanner - the 'Hero' if the series had started in his office instead of his adversary.
I would really have love to have had Tanner for a case in the last season!! They played well of each other.
3:00 Love this part Tanner is a piece of work and Harvey wants to go back at him with Mike.
There was another clip that only showed them in court making Tanner look bad. But after fully seeing the beginning, Tanner was in the right.
If this was a real trial a judge would have granted a TRO. Just because someone was a minor 10 years ago doesn't carry any weight since the contract was enforceable when she became 18 and has been cashing in the cheques.
Not US citizen, not lawyer but that depends, when she is 18 she has to be given a NEW contract she can underwrite herself, otherwise it can bee seen as being eiforced under duress which makes any and all contracts null and void.
@@bentalexranebundgaard4867 not really, she continued to benefit form the contract she signed 10 years ago. So that contract automatically became legal form the moment she turned 18. She doesn't get to benefit from a contract she signed as a minor and then turned an adult, but when it no longer servered her intrests the contact is no longer valid. There have been trials like this in the states where the judges have treated the contract as viable.
@@bentalexranebundgaard4867if the contract has not been amended or altered. Then the second she cashed in that first cheque after turning 18 would lock in that contract as binding.
The only time it would be unenforceable is if the stuff in question happened during those 2 years.
It's not the same as prenuptial agreements like in Liar Liar.
Corporate employment agreements have different laws. If she wants to go down the route of trying to claim the tech she produced for him on his dime, as her own. Then he could always turn around and charge her for all the other bills that came with her creating that tech. Like the office space, supplies, electricity, personnel, etc.
Either way, she'll lose big, even more so that she went and made it personnel with the harassment claim to use bias in her favor, nor caring how her lie would affect his personal life.
@@navi2710It doesn't automatically become legal just because she's now an adult. They can argue in court that both parties treated it as though it was legal, but that requires a judge to rule (which is what the judge was saying to them).
@@seanp2871 yes it does. When she became an adult she had plenty of time to challange the contract but instead carried on benefiting with it as it was.
This is the second time Tanner is gettin punched by Harvey😅
That was a solid punch😏
That client has def never harassed anyone! He is a kind innocent soul. This is slander. NOW RUIN HER LIFE!
Gretchen was the best out this video!
I'm scared when Harvey has to face Travis tanner. Man Travis tanner is such great villain
It's not so much Tanner getting under Harvey's skin, it's more that Harvey can't even imagine that Tanner is capable of changing his ways because of all their prior conflicts.
I'd watch Tanner get punched anytime 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Harvey the Teacher.....Mike the Naïve Student
2:05 threats as empty as his soul
😏love Gretchen's character
I mean, she knowingly bent rules and wants to try and take the whole cake while burning everyone around her. Serves her right that when she tried to make it personal, that she gets it right back.
It's been a while since this show is NOT on Air but I still gets hook by every single clip, I think actually I know we need SUIT back please so Gabriel start getting the Pearson Specter Litt Zane together so we can enjoy THE BEST tv show In the world
9:18 Fire Episode🔥🔥🔥
This thumbnail looks like one of those videos from 12 yrs ago that get 27m views
Imagine Tanner & Harvey teaming up
Funny thing about this whole thing is that how can they lock up Alissa Lang's company offices based on debts she incurred
Violates the basic purpose of company law... separate legal personality
Crazy this series motivated me to study law now all I see are it's inconsistencies😂😂
Ya no, a judge can't rule on an issue unrelated to the one on the docket.
Idk if the show was trying to make Harvey seem like the bad guy, but legally (if not morally)… I kinda think Tim Petroff was in the right.
Harvey beat Tanner so bad that he turned over a new leaf, lol
8:47 bus from the TTC (Toronto Transit Commission)
The best part is that as a 16 year old she has no legal right to ownership of property. Which means she has blatantly committed fraud. So if she keeps her property she goes to federal prison.
well no, she was 16 at the begining of their contract, but that doesn't mean she was when when the product was created
So the thing is, as the contract is null because she was 16, her contract is invalid, which means it was made on their product and with no contract they have ownership of which she has no rights. Solely because it's the equipment she was provided. Even if she was 18 when she made it, it was solely their equipment and she has an invalid contract so she has less then zero rights to anything on the companies property.
Actually, since she was a minor when entering into the contract, it being non enforceable leaves them even more high and dry. The normal stipulations about ownership of properties created on company property cannot be both applied and rejected. If the employment contract is void under the law, so are the protections of company ownership because she could not be an employee accountable to company terms
So... the only real problem with that is by being null and void if it's on their property ie laptop or other company device, she has just fallen into the most inconvenient possibility of corporate espionage. In the case she has no employer, not self employed but no employer she would suffer all the ramifications as an individual.
Edit to add. The on there property is not the same as on there premises. It's intact a theft if product for another company. Espionage.
So she’s not been an employee for 10 years in the eyes of the law, and her IP does not automatically go to the company.
But generally, courts also require restitution for those who were deceived by misrepresentation of age. A share in the venture is a fair idea, but the percentage is debatable. Personally I would have asked for more if they were threatening to escalate with a harassment case on top of the initial fraud.
Tanner should’ve bad a a bigger role than Hardman after Hardman left. Tanner was the one rival that could under Harvey’s skin but Hardman was just like a baby every time he came back
I can’t be the only one that finds Mike shouting hot right?
Just FYI, that punch in real life would end up with Harvey in prison for assault.
Nah fighting words doctrine you cant provoke somebody over and over
@@ziegfeld4131 fighting words doctrine isn't actually in any criminal code. It's something armchair lawyers made up because it kind of makes sense.
Not really
@@Mothman1992you're right. It's not written into criminal code. It's written into case law which often gets more favor than criminal code. And there is A LOT of case law in favor of fighting words.
Tanner really was Harvey's Joker
ay harveyyyy ayyy noooo xD
If it were Mr I would file suit for everything she has because she was 16 at the time of her signing the contract and then file criminal charges.
Gretchen 🎉
Eric Close is ❤❤ handsome
Common Gretchen W
I really liked Tanner.
It's surprising how many people push Harvey's buttons with his propensity for punching people in the face.
Pearson spectre litt easily the best name throughout all of them
Assault charges?
Nah, hands on harvey is my fave character. That man does NOT play.
Yes.. Thomas fortino messed up my car when i asked for help with the AC. then it got the whole computer system shut down.. no dealer would fix it.. I gave it to him in exchange for staying in his trailer and now he's messing up the trailer.. I thought he could fix the car and sell it for plenty. I also still pay him monthly rent.
always folders lol
Which episode?
I thought tanner said he was going to hit back but he got hit twice and the only thing he actually did was turn and put the other cheek 😂😂😂
What’s with the S05 E05 ? Season 10?
season 5 episode 5
That’s why I like Yale more than Harvard
That's an assault charge...
Don't feel sorry for the girl to say se was sexually harassed is bs on her part and tanner going along with it just makes him more of a weasel
Harvey beats Tanner anyday.
Well he doesn't in this case.
They took the settlement in the end, wich is what Tanner wanted in the first place.
That part
I don't understand why people enjoy watching TV shows that glorify immorality. There are people like the characters in this show in real life. Are they people to be admired?
Exactly. MAKING people into scumbags is the purpose.
The world isn't fluff and rainbows.
@@ntlespino because the system makes it that way. There wouldn't be these problems if sick people didn't control the minds of the masses, yet people choose not to see it or counteract. Point proven.
Women logic : I'll destroy your family and life because i got evicted and that's fair
some of the acting on this show is really lacking.
𝓞𝓴 𝓲 𝓰𝓾𝓮𝓼𝓼
😂
Is it just me or everyone is a bad lawyer?
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