Real Lawyer Reacts to Suits (full episode)
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Harvey and Mike. Mike and Harvey. Have you ever wanted to know if they’re good lawyers? Today we’re going to find out. Stay until the end for my Legal Accuracy Grade.
SUITS has been highly requested; probably the most requested show on this channel. I think I missed Suits the first time around because I had already graduated from law school when it came out. But I’m glad I got a chance to watch this. This week i’m deconstructing the first episode of Suits.
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I get asked a lot about whether being a practicing attorney is like being a lawyer on TV. I love watching legal movies and courtroom dramas. It's one of the reasons I decided to become a lawyer. But sometimes they make me want to pull my hair out because they are ridiculous.
Today I'm taking a break from teaching law students how to kick ass in law school to take on lawyers in the movies and on TV. While all legal movies and shows take dramatic license to make things more interesting (nobody wants to see hundreds of hours of brief writing), many of them have a grain of truth.
This is part of a continuing series of "Lawyer Reaction" videos. Got a legal movie or TV show you'd like me to critique? Let me know in the comments!
Props to Dr. Mike's Real Doctor Reacts (goo.gl/qF6Hza) and Wired's Technique Critique (goo.gl/C8dz2U) for the inspiration.
All clips used for fair use commentary, criticism, and educational purposes. See Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 1:16-cv-03081-KBF (SDNY 2017).
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No mention of the future queen in your review?
You say "these things take months" alot does anything in law not take months?!?
I saw your reaction to the Good Wife season 1 episode 1 and it was good. Please review The Good Wife season 4 episode 14 Red Team, Blue Team. You will not be disappointed. Good Lawyering!
Please do better call saul. First episode and season 3 episode 5 or have some great legal stuff.
Actually, most things take years...
I love suits, but I have never got over how the characters look at legal documents for two seconds and already are able to make insightful observations about its content.
Someone commented what could be a logical explanation: most of those documents has words or arguments highlighted. If some document is constructed in a way, most lawyers would know which way the document would go.
But let’s be honest. Watching lawyers do actual lawyer work (like taking the appropriate time to read documents) would be a very boring show lol.
Suspension of disbelief
Yes, they should have let us watch them read the document and we should put up with 2 hour episodes
@@Teknovae oh sir… it be much longer than 2 hours…
"lawyers don't lie"
I dunno, that sounds just like something a liar would say
He said " good lawyers don't lie "
😂😂😂😂
@@Royalbrettania define "good"
@@TheBatfromArkham easy ! "Good " = Legal Eagle. . And also Doctor Mike
Lawyers are paid to convince. So yeah just a little salt bae sprinkle of lies might be added
the ironic thing here is that, according to this video, Mike Ross was the least fraudulent person in this firm
Even in the show, the only “fraud” he committed was being a lawyer with a fake college degree.
@@ArnulfoSalgado He committed more fraud than that and he committed that fraud like 5 times and episode.
The fact is that that firm defrauded their clients with every single interaction regarding Mike.
Not that they weren’t already engaging in fraud beforehand.
@@ArnulfoSalgadobut t to be a lawyer you have to pass the bar so he is a lawyer and cannot practice the law which is super fraudulent and Harvey knew about it the entire time which is even more fraudulent
He is not a lawyer ^+
Law is just a backdrop for suits . Main themes are loyalty and respect and power
Exactly. Classic money power betrayal. Almost like a Shakespeare piece
@@524coconut exaclty you get it
Finally someone said it
You forgot family
@@524coconut mmm no
Legal Eagle: "Good lawyers don't lie"
Harvey Specter: "It's not lying, it's called bluffing."
@CD Smith nice
OBJECTION! Your Honor, he is Harvey Specter, we all know HE can do that. Oh, yes, and Mike Ross, let's not forget, Mike. Ok, ok, ALL of them, but only them, and only because they have been awesome and have helped us to have such a good time and so many hours, mmm...well, weeks, months, years...having so much fun with these guys! So, for law students everywhere, please, just don't do that. Just don't. Will you lose your license if you copycat these guys moves? Yes, of course, you definitely will. So, just don't and let everybody else "non lawyer people", like me, enjoy this great show. Thank you.
It’s called “playing the man” 😂
@@NormaLilia24 Playing the man not the game.
The whole series is based on Harvey not viewing society's or the legal profession's ethical code as important if it doesn't tally with what he views as the right thing to do at any time. Suits plots are all predicated on the idea that the firm gets results by breaking rules and not getting caught. They then have to break more rules to avoid getting exposed. They value loyalty above ethics so the hole gets dug deeper. This is literally the entire series with some emotional drama and sex thrown in for entertainment value. I've seen lawyers who sail close to the wind but I've yet to meet a Harvey. The idea that the management of that firm would collude with all this shady shit is dumb.
If they made suits just like real life then it would take 9 seasons to win 1 case
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This facts though!
We do that anyway here in my country 😪
Hahaha
@@ayushsaxena6271it's interesting this comment attract mainly indians
One thing i can always count on about Suits is that whenever someone is about to leave a room, they always stop at the door and look back to say one more comment before leaving 😂
Or leave thinking they won the argument, leaving a quippy comment, just to find out later it fell through and the lawsuit continues. I’m always screaming “wait until it’s signed before you leave the room!”
@@jenniferkelley5473 Or how always someone appears magically at the door to listen to some conversation or to participate in it just at the right time. The offices are all made of glass but no one ever see them coming lol.
they also walk very fast for no reason while talking 😂like standing and talking is just poor or something
I always thought about this, and loved the image of each character hiding behind a wall eavesdropping for the exact right moment to enter...@@jesusgarciacruz9059
They also say "what are you talking about' at least 2 times in every episode.
As someone who has watched the whole show, it’s quite interesting to see you sort of predict and explain the exact things that would very much soon become a major issue for the characters and essentially - the driving points of the show.
I'd think as a lawyer he's watched it
Well I am not a lawyer, but I understood how unrealistic everything is and predicted the same 10 minutes into this show. It’s just common sense if you have seen enough and done enough in the corporate world.
Agreed! The dramatic license in the show, which makes it interesting and drives the plot, is inherently deviant from reality. This was fun.
Every event that occurs in this show wouldn’t work in the real world whatsoever. But obviously the entertainment of the show is how they do these things even though they’re genuinely not remotely possible in the real world. Even something that could have been possible like hiring Mike as a paralegal, have him go to school and eventually pass the bar, probably wouldn’t work. His history of academic fraud and taking LSATs for people for money for example would already have made it really hard to be admitted to the bar. Granted if he was hired as a paralegal to work through school by the time he was done he’d have years of ethical behavior to demonstrate to make s good argument for why he should qualify for the state bar now so it’s possible there. But I cannot overstate that every single event of this show is not even close to possible.
@@meshackmuli2809he said that he hadn’t seen an episode at the start of the video
"all these lawyers should be disbarred"
laughs in later seasons
@@jonts7 a few of the main characters take the fall for harveys illegal activity, happens 3 times
@@jonts7 Travis Tanner? Is that you?
I’d like this guy to have an argument with Harvey
It's Harvey Specter....come on now, dude does whatever he wants. He's the best closer in New York.
@@xeonbladev18 I LOVE YOUR COMMENT WHEKXOWHRXOWJFB
Lol, so basically Harvey would have been disbarred every episode
but then u never have this awesome series.
Well yes but only if he got caught. The thing about Harvey is he doesn't get caught, well at least not until seasons 7, 8, and 9. lol.
No, he wouldn't have been. Because he's always had a leverage against anyone who could jeopardize his career. Or he would find some dirt. Sooooo
@@sriharshapinjala3926 the problem is that at any point he can get someone who doesn't care what Harvey has and goes to the bar not just for whatever he did but blackmail as well.
That's why the big guns get paid so much. They end up going down in flames.
I taught LSAT for years and even owned an LSAT prep service before I actually went to law school. I cannot tell you how many times I was offered money to take the LSAT for someone (and it was almost always the parents offering, not the student, and the standard offer was $25K, in 2001-2004). So it's kind of absurd that Mike is doing it for a couple hundred bucks. But I always thought that when the guy tried to stiff Mike and says "Call the cops," Mike's proper response would have been, "Cops? No, I'll call LSAC, and your law career will be over before you even go to law school. After all, YOU want to go to law school. I don't. So LSAC can't do anything to me. They can and will end you." Or something like that.
true point, but mike would probably kill his own business if he ratted a student out to LSAC
@@spencerpencer Possibly, but if people knew it was because the guy got the score and refused to pay, it would probably just increase his chances of being paid in full in the future.
I assume Mike sat the exam for the other guy? What I don’t understand how the exam supervisor picked up that Mike was a cheater. Why did he put his paper in the middle of the pile? Do the students have to show ID when they hand the paper in?
@@jamesk479 It undoubtedly was . . . but while I would have happily reported the parents, I did not want to cause trouble for the students (most of whom apparently did not even know their parents were attempting such chicanery). I just told the parents that if their kid took my course and applied himself/herself, the result would be the same without the risk and at much less expense.
It wasn’t the first time that proctor saw him.
Suits might not be legally accurate, but its entertaining as hell. And it's cool to know which things were surprisingly accurate. Like the interviews.
I watched the entire 8 seasons on Netflix in about 2 weeks thinking that was everything. Turns out there's a season 9 on something I don't have. Not worth paying for. I lost interest really when Mike and Rachel left and though he comes back for the end it's just not the same.
@@silentj624 The series finale is one of the absolute *best* endings I've ever seen for any TV show. My personal opinion: the last season is definitely worth watching for the finale alone, and it is a huge loss not to see it.
(My two cents in case you ever do find a way to watch it someday)
@@silentj624the finale is the best season trust me
This show is CRAP like 15 year old girl wrote this!! This is what a stupid person thinks a Harvard lawyer does. 😂😂😂 I couldn't even finish 1 episode.
Him:"He's committing fraud"
Me:"First time huh?"
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Can’t believe bluffing is fraud
hahahahhahahahahahahaha so true
Me when I first watched this episode of suits: "oh man that's such a good strategy"
Stone: "That is bad lawyering"
Me: "oh yeah that's bad lawyering"
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Same LMAO
1000th like
It is only bad lawyering if you get found, which is the point. Harvey knows it is a risk, but he does it either way
I didn't go to law school. However, after watching suits I'm positive and confident I can represent my self.
No cause same 😭
Cut to you defending yourself with the Harvey Spector playbook ending up charged with half a dozen counts of fraud 😂
Then you would have a fool for a client. K?
your ass is def going to jail
*myself
The *Harvey disbarred* counter is so funny, considering that 50% of the things Harvey does could get him disbarred. 😂
"This firm isn't going to exist for very long."
Yes, that's the whole story.
"every time the firm goes under we make the whole thing again" - pearson hardman darby specter litt (were there any more I literally forgot)
@@a.w_. oh u mean zane wheeler williams bennet?😂
@@kodraa no bro its "litt wheeler williams bennet".
@@rahulkumarbharati7252 yeah i wrote zane instead of litt
@@kodraa looks like comment section is dead its just two of us here.
I knew that lawyers got suits, but I never dreamed I'd see the day where suits got lawyered.
hahaha 😂
lmao that was good
"but I've never seen an 🐘 fly....."
so clever
woooow
I’d love to see a revisit to this show where he determines how many crimes Harvey, Mike, Jessica, Louis, and Donna commit throughout the shows whole story 😂
That would be a video several hours long, no?
Exactly!😆😂🤣
It's the one thing I don't like about the show. It's hard to root for the characters when each and every one are constantly committing crimes. They are literally all criminals!
@@daliam8715 I mean...Better Call Saul is about the exact same thing. Same with Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, or any other popular show
I'm currently watching this show with my parents, one a paralegal of 20+ years who's done a bit of everything and the other a bankruptcy paralegal of a similar amount of time and an ex-cop, is a genuinely FASCINATING experience tbh. Don't get me wrong they LOVE this show, and I do too, but sometimes my mom tells at the TV the way my dad does watching football and its great
"Thats not a great score thats in the 80th percentile"
*looks at my own grade and cries
I had the same reaction. 80th percentile seems pretty good to me.
Right?! 😂😂
RainyCloud 10 it’s good but it’s not great
@@shresthbhuwalka9097 *91st
F
A real lawyer watching suits first episode:
This firm is not gonna exist for much longer...
Everyone who has seen suits:
If u knew...
TheDuckfrak 😅
It's called being fictional and having plot armor
Harvey's gonna burn this guy 😂
@@benwillems8584 Which is shoddy worldbuilding and lazy writing.
@@AravindPradhyumnan I look forward to your perfectly written tv show
Regarding Mike's indiscretion with the math test, we find out later on that he had been accepted to Harvard law, and the acceptance was withdrawn after that. He might have been ok if he got into another law school and ultimately had to face the bar, but he just sort of gave up on law school.
You miss the part where Mike's skills is that reads it, he understands it. Its not just having photographic memory, but understanding what he just read
He got kicked out of law school but he did go. I'm sure somewhere in there he got taught some understanding of it.
@@silentj624he didn’t go to law school he got kicked out of normal university I believe
Still wouldn't work. Tons of law school is interactive.
Mike is an idiot in almost ever single episode.
@@harveyholmes9533 Yeah he went to college and was doing well but his idiot friend convinced him to sell a test to a girl who happened to be the deans daughter so he lost his scholarship and had to drop out.
Harvey: Lies to the client to close the deal
LegalEagle: Okay, so this is called Fraud
Me: You have no idea...
wtf?
No idea 😅
its so much worse hahahahaha
Legal eagle: this is called fraud
Us: first time?
Lol I know right. He was mostly pointing out the obvious things that they did to entertain audiences. I really thought he would point out things we didn’t know
him: what this person has done is called fraud...
me: yeah youre gonna see a lot of that in this show...
Fraud is the least of their crimes.
@@sugoruyo ikr like most of the name partners should have gotten life in prison if then found out everything they did
Like, do you even know what this show is about?
Harvey could have also endorsed a hearing in front of the ethics board for Mike. Cleared Mike's name from the get go under 10000 reasons! Mike could have cleared his LSAT's ethically, be in a law school, then come to the firm as summer associate in his first year (which would mark him as exceptional since they hire associated in second year onwards usually). But that would rob the writers of a juicer season 4-6. So we know why the brightest lawyer of New York didn't use his brain that day. He was listening to the writers. P.S I love Harvey Spectre btw!
No, he couldn't. If you would have watched all the seasons, you would know that Mike tried to apply for a Harvard, but got rejected for selling test to the daughter of dean of Mike's college. And at that time, Pearson Hardman didn't hire laywers from any other school than Harvard.
@@anndrew4190 I literally started by saying Harvey could have endorsed a hearing in front of the ethics board. Which ethics board do you think I mean?
i think mike didn't even graduate from college
Suits isnt just about suits, it is also about suits (lawsuits). took me like 6 seasons to catch the double connection. Plus Mike Ross = My Cross, being he was Harvey's cross to bear maybe. That one also took 6 seasons to realize
Great catch on mikecross- my cross to bear! I thought of Harvey as short for Harvard kind of like Yalie for Yale and Louis Litt(igator) about the best litigator I have ever seen on tv. They love toying with names!
@@misselanys1219 Sheila Sazs (Sheila's ass) was the funniest one
@@nnr997 someone in the writing staff has a highly honed sense of humor
You and Louis Litt would have a lot to talk about.
I swear to God 😂😂
Dead😂😂😂😂
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Even I thought it was called “Suits” because they wear suits. It’s really because the show is about Law “Suits.”
I never trust a lawyer who is not in the shaving club.
I'm binge watching the show for the first time and I'm halfway through season 3 and I've only just realised that about the title! lol
I think they idea behind the name is really the combination of the two meanings of the word. Because they are always talking about the quality of Mike's suits as well and proclaiming Harvey's suits are way to expensive
Mind blown. Honestly didn't cross my mind lol
No that's not actually true. A "suit" is slang for a lawyer.
I think a big problem Suits had is that the series creator originally intended for it to be about investment banking, a field he'd actually worked in, rather than corporate law. Without dedicated legal consulting (which they seem to have had very little of, if they had any whatsoever), it's going to be hard to achieve the same kind of authenticity it could've had if he'd stuck to a backdrop that he actually knows. I'm not sure why they decided to change it (maybe pressure from the network, who knows), but it's clear that their approach to writing legal drama was very much a fake it til you make it sort of thing.
It's kind of funny, when you think about what the premise of the show is.
oh fascinating, that’s a big shift in premise
I wonder how that show would have turned out
I’m extremely excited about your channel I get to learn so much about the legal process, but I find myself still wanting more on the eagle facts, let’s get on that notches, legal but eagle
You're like Doctor mike but a lawyer.
i was just thinking that!
You’ve really cracked the case here man. I didn’t even think about that
Thats exactly what was going through my mind
I thought of the same thingggg
He's like Doctor Mike, but instead of keeping people alive he sends the ones who hurt them to prison. Like a team, the snake with a staff who can magic people to life and the legal eagle, who can spot a crime from 10 miles away
The biggest joke on the show was that Mike was just a delivery guy with a small suitcase of weed and he was gonna get paid 25k.
For real. That was a couple grand of green at the most
Jeremy Sivertsen I like how you conveniently know how much that “green” was worth.
Praise The Sun well a pound goes for 2.5 K street value
Gemini LaVell well that’s good to know
he (harvey) was looking for someone that is “him”
“Alright! So, what this person has done is called ‘fraud.’” God just the way you said that was so funny
I'm a law student but in brazil and we use a different legal system so when i watch this shows i just think "maybe thats how it works in commom law" it nice to see you saying how it really is.
I love his frustration 😂😂😂 "YOU JUST DON'T LIE TO THE CLIENT"
It is like watching a medical professional react to TV doctors shocking asystole.
@@GhostBear3067 I just realized why there are no prime time dramas about accountants.
Morty Goldmacher because accountant are scumbags
@@rawtrout3402 Scumbags make great shows. Sopranos? The Wire? Breaking Bad?
@@rawtrout3402 do you even know what accountants do
This is weird. Last time I watched Suits Rachel wasn't Duchess of Sussex.
Lol
I KNOW RIGHT
Haha Is that her official title then? Pretty badass!
I think so, yeah.
Duchess of Sex haha
Loved the Series SUITS, but also loved the way you explained each area presented. Great Job! Congrats, I really enjoyed watching this video.
I recently discovered Suits and began watching it about 5 weeks ago. It is one of the best shows I have ever seen. It's interesting to see a real lawyer's perspective on it too.
This guy is savage.
He just called THE HARVEY GODDAMN SPECTRE a fraud in first 3 mins of the first episode xD
learn to spell the name, will you? it's spelled HARVEY GODDAMN SPECTER
He's fictitious tho...
@@abigail_yang He probably wrote it that way as 'Spectre' is the British variation of the world, although since the word is part of a name , the correct word would thus be 'Specter'.
AJ Smith your point being...?
@@abigail_yang I'm just adding extra information for anyone that reads this and is curious about why the variations between 'Spectre' and 'Specter' matters.
I'm not entirely sure how I got here ... but I'm not mad
SAME!!!
Same... 😱
Same lmao
Just what i thought
I feel the same way
Ngl kinda cool to see someone like yourself, as busy as you probably are, making RUclips videos and actually giving out real insight to that work place setting.
Suits starts off quite strong, the fear of mike getting caught actually felt somewhat real. I watched up until season 6 but it was really a background show for me
Suits is one of those shows where when you don't know what's going on you'll be like "yeah that makes sense." But when someone who knows what their talking about he'll go like "WHAT THE HECK IS THIS CRAP?"
Lmaooo so true
Every single greys anatomy episode.
"what they're* talking about"
@@jeffthelobster7088 why do you say that? I've not watched that show but have heard about it
@@recursion. it’s not accurate medicine. lots of illegal activity too lol
2:20 😭 the way he causal says fraud got me
I love how the title can have more than one meaning: suits as in suit that you wear and suits as in lawsuit :)
3:15, “might be a crime” describes most of Harvey’s legal strategies
I just finished Suits, I loved it. Definitely could tell when they were very unrealistic, like blatantly telling a federal official you were a party to fraud and then not doing anything...I am curious though what the legal implications would be for Mike if he didn't take the deal and had the Not Guilty verdict returned?
Thank you for this great video 👍 I love suits, thank you Sir, looking forward to seeing more of your great videos. You should go through Mike's trial on the show, someday if you have time, go through prosecutor Anita Gibbs, she is amazing character on the show. She is obsessed with Mike Ross on the show.
I just found new way to waste my time. This is acceptable.
This comment literally describes my life atm
Hahaha, well you might be right
The time you enjoy spending is not wasted
it is so fucking true... *Crying in the corner*
YES. yes it is
It's Harvey Specter....come on now, dude does whatever he wants. He's the best closer in New York.
Best god damn closer in New York 😏
Melo was better.
@@katangboy Melo can´t come close to Mariano Rivera.
Hell yeah. Harvey is surely better than the dude who’s reacting lol
@@katangboy lamelo ball is the best closer
This show is awesome!! I just finished watching Suits for the first time a few days ago😂. It's cool to see lawyers react to this show.
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I’d like this guy to have an argument with Harvey
My mind would explode.
Not just an argument but them having a case against each other would be amazing!
If Harvey actually had real life attorney knowledge it would be cool to see
This guy would be right, but Harvey would still win
I can’t imagine the movie references and “you son of a bitch”s there would be lmao
Best line, "They aren't even witness tampering right."
The show can't even be Illegal correctly.
Connor McGalliard 😂 LOL I know. But he’s ruined this show for me!
@@zoey1970
He shouldn't. If you enjoy the show, watch the goddamn show. It's actually his word against the show's writers, among which are surely some legal workers. So just keep watching and don't be affected by every little thing. I'm sure it wasn't his intent yo ruin it for you anyway.
Agreed
@@zoey1970 Don't be sad. Keep enjoying the show. It's for entertainment only, not about actually learning Law. If it was 100% correct it would be boring as hell.
Tom Joad I‘m sorry did you just call real life law boring?
GREAT response here. Love it. They were always shady. I just finished Season 9 and I was struck by the whole Faye thing...she was totally RIGHT about EVERYTHING! All of her criticisms and suggestions/warnings for the firm were exactly what they needed to hear. But of course they had to fight to get rid of her, so they could keep being shady lawyers. Still, a great show, entertaining for nine seasons.
I like how you broke down an entire episode. Do more!
Plot twist: this guy is not a real lawyer, he just benched 9 seasons of suits
Yordan Patronski There are 7 seasons of suits lol, but I get the joke. I binged all the seasons in a few weeks lol
It's actually 8. Season 8 premiered July 18, 2018
That shelf is CG
I’m the same way so I can confirm you’re on to something
is the word you are looking for "binged"?
Legal Eagle: "Good lawyers don't lie"
Saul Goodman: ''hold my battery'''
The biggest liar😂
He's not a liar he just doesn't tell the truth until it benefits him
ma men just bends the law
The most underated comment in RUclips history
I guess lying is a way to cheat in extra money?
12:35 I have a family friend that does a lot of pro bono for his firm, and his reasoning is just to break the monotony. He spends a lot of time doing one thing (I think he mostly does familial law but I'm not sure), but getting an opportunity to help someone and mix up your scope seems great for everyone.
OBJECTION, just because Mike has read a bunch of law books and learned them by heart does not mean he can't also have studied a bunch of procedures, court rulings, and specific cases where the law was applied as any good law student would. I'd be inclined to believe he did judging by how well he holds up in the firm. Otherwise, as you said, he'd be lost.
Good argument. I was thinking this, but couldn't put it in words LOL
As a lover of the show (just to play devils advocate to your objection) Mike also has memorized the knowledge of all the Supreme Court cases and how they ruled and how they won etc, so he should have a small understanding of how proceedings worked etc at least in my mind thats kinda how I see it; however, he does suck at being a lawyer in the beginning (couldn’t even win in housing court) and then kept learning over time to get better and better
@@lxfty3077 That housing court was against a much more experienced lawyer though (even Harvey knew her iirc and commented smth like "she's who you're up against in housing court?").
In the end Mike even still won with that carpet move (bringing Harvey, but only as a spectator), so can we really say he was a bad lawyer even then? Cant argue with the procedures thing though as he didnt know the common practice at the start of the case (which would align with the original commentors thought)
Fun fact: They made the character so smart, there is very little reason why Mike couldn't be a contractual private consultant while effortlessly studying in harvard because shenanigans and strings pulled
That is my biggest problem with the plot
He sold tests to the Harvard Dean who then swore to prevent his admission to any law school
he was an addict. the drugs negated a lot of his intelligence
@@kevinfeeney3042 The man smoked weed on the occasion. "An addict", get real.
@@timestamp2525 But I thought he could still pass the bar without going to law school I guess (like the guy in Catch Me If You Can). Then he will be only lying about going to Harvard but he can practice law legally I suppose.
Objection: Mike’s dean is later shown to deliberately get him blacklisted from every decent law school as retaliation for getting his daughter expelled (even though no one forced her to buy test answers).
I don't remember the exact details, but I remember that the Dean also had to step down from his position because of what happened. And as his last act, he basically ruined Mike's future
Artem Bentsionov agreed! Also have to object to Mr. LegalEagle on the idea that Mike’s cheating is “not a big deal”. As someone who has been to law school, I can safely say it would take a miracle for the already very competitive law school admissions processes to accept or forgive a student who got expelled/suspended from college for cheating/identity fraud relating to an exam, specifically the LSAT. Moral and ethical evaluations are the bane of our existence albeit the evaluations are not perfect. This question of expulsion or suspension gets asked at almost every educational and career milestone of becoming a lawyer and later in practice, and at any time the administrators or the system may choose to use that as a reason to not accept you.
shortishperson yeah, I actually know someone who lost his big law job because it took 2+ years for the bar to admit him over a his moral fitness requirement (DUI in a different state, more than half a decade prior). Moral fitness requirements can absolutely prevent someone from becoming an attorney or severely limit their career.
flawlix Exactly. Wow sorry to hear that about your friend. Sounds like he finally got the bar eventually though, which is good. Hopefully he landed somewhere good. Personally I don’t understand why bar associations refuse people who already went to law law school and if there isn’t anything new that is “suspect” in their background since admittance to law school. Law schools do a vigorous review of moral character as well and if they deemed someone’s past DUI irrelevant and allowed them to study, they should be allowed to practice. After all, why allow someone to waste 3 years of their life and couple hundred thousand dollars, only to tell them, no sorry you can’t practice because of something everyone already knew you’d done before all that.
In California, qualified applicants can take the bar exam without going to law school. Most law schools require a college degree, but some may only ask for equivalent course work, and some law schools focus on your legal interest and life experiences and not on your grades or LSAT scores. It is also possible to become a lawyer in New York without obtaining a law degree, if you complete some study at a law school and then work as an apprentice at a law office for four years. Lawyers in New York are regulated by the Courts.
This is what I was wondering about when watching this show. Of course it has been dramatized for cinema
I just started (binge) watching Suits on Netflix and love it. I like the way you explained things. Have you ever been approached about being a legal consultant for developing episodes for a TV show? Seems they could have used you on an episode or two. 🙂
Fyi
Season 9 and Pearson is on Peacock
OBJECTION! At 2:57 your editor put "Ya'll gonna get disbarred." As a proud Midwesterner who lived in Central Illinois for a decade, I can state as an expert in my field that "y'all" is a colloquial contraction of "you all," and therefore the apostrophe must go where the eliminated "ou" is, not after the "a." FOLKSY FRAUD.
Fancy meeting you here.
SUSTAINED. Damn, that one cuts to the core. I will now burn all my George Strait albums.
Hi, Austin!
Hey it's Austin!
As a man of the South, I also must support this objection.
That dude even looks like Harvey and Mike combined 😂
With a jim halpert haircut and ears lol
korsakoff STP lmaooo yeah! 😂
Son of a biittch you might be unto something hahaha.
ikr lol
Ultra Fox lmaooo 😂
Even for me, as a German, this is absoutely fascinating stuff. I. Am. Stunned.
Truly great stuff, please keep up with it. Thank you for making and sharing.
I've seen some of your content but this showed me that if I ever needed a lawyer I would reach out to your office. lol You sound like a hell of a good lawyer.
"They're not even witness tampering right" has got to be one of my favorite lines.
“Everyone, take notes!!”
If you’re gonna cheat, cheat well!
At the end of the day even if we picked a hundred things wrong with the show we all still enjoyed it
Of course, but people requested Suits to be reacted to so they could find out what's not realistic about it. It's not like he's nitpicking just to nitpick. That's what we're here for.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba Yeah I know, every show has its ups and downs and it’s nice seeing things we’ve missed but my point was that it’s a good show even if does has faults.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba But nothing he said really says it is not realistic lol
He says: He should get disbarred
And everyone knows that, the shows know that and people get disbarred because of it lol, so it is realistic.
That is like saying a show about drug dealers is not realistic because dealing drugs is illegal lol
Precisely ;)
I couldn't help but pick certain things out but more of the background then what was being said. It's suppose to be a firm in New York and I guess they thought that by throwing some yellow cabs in, nobody would notice. I couldn't help but notice things such as Canada post mail boxes, TTC buses and street cars, Canadian banks, etc. It was filmed in Downtown Toronto and being from Toronto myself, it wasn't hard to pick up on it, especially Gerrad Square and where my actual lawyers law firm is on Bay Street.
I watched the episode. He did pass the bar exam. When I went to college I worked in the mailroom/copy center of a law firm in MA. I was told there that at least in MA all you needed to practice law was to clerk and pass the bar and no need to go to law school. They also said that no firm would hire you but if you passed the bar you were a lawyer. Is that true?
Currently watching the show and I'm hooked I can't go to sleep at night I'm always up watching it
You are being so kind! Reviewing the law practice in Suits is like reviewing the science in Star Wars. The show is a fantasy environment from the outset.
Exactly 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not exactly, suits has some truth but it’s mostly unrealistic by how much these ‘lawyers’ commit crimes lmao
@@tutuappviphezh1892 some of the characters bleed in star wars. So you could argue there's some factual science in it
Not really. Suits isn’t fantasy this lawyer is explaining the unrealism and thus make it more realistic. A scientist doesn’t know how to make a god damn Death Star. One is grounded in reality and the other is fantasy and futuristic so therefore anything can happen and no one cares how
It's funny that Legal Eagle pointed out the hotel interview process being accurate, but everything else was garbage. It's like the showrunner(s) overheard that little detail from a lawyer and then made up the rest.
14:27 "How hard is it to fill out a form"
Exactly 9 seconds later: "GIVE THE KID A BREAK HE SHOULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO KNOW HOW TO DO IT"
I thought the first comment was a joke like pff you know how to do something on your first day what an idiot.
In my First job I was yelled at Because I didnt know how to fill in the form - and then once again that I didnt know that when you drop the case as plaintiff when the other side has been informed, you will have to bear the costs - they told me that if I had good scores at school I Should have known that 😂 like seriously, this is something you learn from practise not bacause you read civil procedure before going to sleep 🤦♀️
The first comment was directed specifically at Harvey. He knew how to fill out the form since it was literally a required part of his job. So it was a dig on him for deciding to push that onto someone else who had never done it before. "How hard" in this context related to his laziness and irresponsibility with a task that required very little time and energy from him, not the amount of knowledge and experience required, which he already had and Mike did not, hence why the second statement _does not_ actually contradict the first.
So good attempt but your joke isn't relevant, unfortunately. But it's okay, language is hard! It's not like you've been practicing yours skill with it every day for almost your entire life or anything...oh, wait.
Well he does have a point on both of those things. The kid working where he is should have the knowledge to be able to hold his own ground. On the other hand he went for help clearly indicating he doesnt know a specific segment. If all the lawyers names are together the information has to be verified together. Simple bureaucratic rules.
Love the show! Thank you for your time!! I have always watched this channel and thought I'm listening to a man who others have to pay hundreds or even thousands just to listen to.
Just came back to this video for a comfort watch. As someone who went to school for screenwriting I am a student of the Legal Eagle to avoid this stuff. But this was the first video I found of yours 4 years ago. I’ve been around ever since.
the way this gentleman explains things makes me want to listen to more things he says whatever they are
True. I guess that's the quality of good lawyer
Attorney at Law: ASMR edition. I'd listen to that.
@@mknell69 this
He could win by charisma and attractiveness
That's why he is on RUclips. He'd definitely be a great trial lawyer.
Not gonna lie: I'd really enjoy seeing you do Suits on an episode-by-episode basis. This is the kind of stuff I find fascinating because I'm apparently incredibly pedantic and boring.
The fact that you admit that makes you a whole lot more interesting ..
I would also love this. I am also pathetic and boring... :-)
Just found your content. I loved this show but so interesting to see from a legal view
It is very interesting to watch your videos especially the reaction ones.
OBJECTION: Not all lawyers are as attractive as they are in shows or in this very video
I think that's proven by many characters in the show including Louis litt
@@tgaw9659 Disproven, Louis is a sexy beast
@@somerandomguy92 yes he is LIT
@@bohrmaschiiienvonderbausti7505 You just got Litt Up
@@tgaw9659 how dare you sir
Objection: Your haircut is extremely similar to Harvey's, ergo, he is just as good a lawyer as you are.
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Sustained!
😂😂😂😂
Yes. The secret of success is in the haircut
Flawed analogy. You should take tests on gmat club or Veritas prep. 😁 jk
25:20 When the lawyer knows more about witness tampering than he should lol
Just getting into Suits and just thought about Legal Eagle.
Thanks!
“What this person has done is called fraud” that shit made me weak😂😂💀💀💀
😂😂😂😂😂😂
*_"This firm is not gonna exist for much longer"_*
Well, you're not wrong. #PearsonDarby
Wdym Pearson Darby? That lasted about 5 episodes
Pearson Hardmen
Pearson
Pearson Darby
Pearson Darby Specter
Pearson Specter
Pearson Specter Litt
Zane Specter Litt
And so on....
Litt wheeler Williams Bennett
@@egalitarianism9203 I know, but it's still the firm that came after Pearson Hardman.
@@ravneetanand2659 "This firm changes names more times than Prince." --- Mike Ross
This is great content. Thank you for the entertainment!
Everything you bring up and the consequences is what made this show great and put that firm in jeopardy for years.
"Lawyers dont lie"
Me realising that literally everyone has lied in the series: *something's wrong, I can feel it*
Bro in suits those ‘lawyers’ commit a crime every 1/2 of an episode
Thats like saying salesman don't lie. Supermarkets, gas stations don't lie.
The best ones do and make it a legal loop hole later. To why this lawyer would not call it a lie. 🙄
@@sparrowhawk5673 HAve you seen the film where the JAck Nicholson Colonel character has had a soldier killed for the greater good and was sure he'd getaway with it because of his importance? The scientologist plays the lawyer...the one with his mouth open,looking a bit dumb sometimes, I can't remember his name.
@@sparrowhawk5673 A legal loop is not a lie. By finding and exploiting something that the law does not forsee you literally do not lie, you just use the non rigorousness of the law to your advantage.
If someone says "Everything on the table is a dime" and then someone went on to say "But there's nothing on the table!", the first person wouldn't be a liar nor would he be contradicting himself. That's basic mathematical logic. His statement is just vague enough (not rigorous enough), so it doesn't take into consideration that there might not be anything on the table.
The same goes with lawyering. Good lawyers are good in two things: in logic, and in seeing loopholes, conditions that the law didn't forsee and doesn't explicitly forbid. When they see those conditions, they try to prove through facts and evidence that the innocence (or guilt) of a party entails from those loopholes.
@@sparrowhawk5673 No. It isn't like saying that because if those other people lie they don't lose their career that cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars in tuition.
"The Bar Council looks at your moral character"
And if you have any they don't let you in
Sanat Varma 🤣🤣🤣
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If that were true, lawyers wouldn’t exist
Andy Sutcliffe you must be fun at parties
It's funny that you mention "rain makers". Later in the series they talk about "grinders" vs. "rain makers".
Thanks for the knowledge!
I would say Suits is very good for accurately describing consequences, the characters just rarely face them. The fact that Harvey hiring a guy without a law degree makes everyone liable is a huge theme for the series, at least in the early years. I think they are very accurate in their acknowledgement of what would really happen but the actions are not realistic.
Summer associates don't need a law degree. They just have to be in law school. They are usually in their second year of law school. To take the bar, you only need one year of law school and need to work for a law firm for 3 years.
I'm so happy to see this. I just discovered the medical show reviews and my first thought was "I wish someone would do this for legal shows." Well done and thanks!
I WAS THINGKING THE SAME THING!!!!
yass me too!!!
Me too, just came straight across from the language and medical critiques
It would be cool if a police officer did this for cop shows also!!!
Objection! Opposing counsel cannot make judgement on my objection, as this responsibility is the judge’s. love the channel man 😂
Damn! Now, I need your reaction on All episodes, every seasons.
15:55 - "What most people don't know about being a big firm attorney is that without clients, the firm can't operate"
Wow. I really did not know that
I guess he means it's not like a PI waiting in its smoky office drinking whiskey and waiting for th next client to come throught his gold &black lettered painted windowed door. They have to have clients that hire them long term and giving them work everyday.
Hahaha
Tom Joad that was super descriptive 😂😂
@@jameshamaker9321 Did I forget to mention the beige raincoat over a low priced costume, the flask of bourbon in the gun holter and a hat, all of them hanging on a old style wook coat rack ? ^^
That line is not the end of his explanation. It continues to - "So... there are 2 types of partners". Most people don't know about rainmakers in law firms. That's what he means when he says what he says.