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Donna talks to a dude on the street, prints out a document he asked for and hands it to him without any official meeting with minutes, consults nothing👀
I know this is a show that is notorious for getting things wrong, but in case anyone was wondering, landlords, especially on this level, will almost never do this. Office leases usually don't last much longer than 5 years, so landlords typically wait out a lease and then renegotiate for the next lease term. Sure, no landlord wants to have rents below market, but kicking out a multi-floor tenant like this would only cause a massive spike in vacancy that would take months (maybe years) to fill and will probably require millions in new tenant improvements allowances. If the landlord had such a problem with one of their largest tenants, they wouldn't have settled on the original lease terms / not invested in the property in the first place.
Yup, landlords hate one thing and that is kicking out a paying tenant even when it comes to the best spots in the world they won't do it it just costs too much money. They have to pay themselves the taxes on the location and those add up kicking out a paying tenant can be financially devastating it can take years to get a new tenant in even if they want the property on day 1. I know there are premium spots in new york that have been vacant for 5+ years because it is hard to rent out even premium spots that cost 50k+ a month. So yeah you would have to be a giant arrogant pr!ck with significant money to burn to be willing to kick out a premium tenant who pays rent on a premium spot. Premium doesn't mean that someone will want the place it only means that it is a good spot and %99.9 of businesses don't need a 50-100k+ a month spot.
And if we were being super realistic about the NYC market right now, commercial rents have taken a nose dive off a cliff with no apparent landing in sight. Dark days ahead
How do you, as a supposedly premier legal professional, sue someone about your lease, but you don't read your lease or understand if you have been properly served?
Used to eat at me so much, but had to learn to let it go bc there literally wouldn’t be a show w/o it lol. Harvey, Louis, Mike, Donna, Rachel. Every dramatic plot came from characters consistently being incompetent and not changing. Donna the worst of course.
True observation. Honestly I see lot of Donna type people irl. Don't have clue about business, tech or anything in that matter. Got hired because of dad's friend owns the business and these people start feeling important than they really are.
I guess……..he coulda just had some unloyal assistant but have his firm become the premier firm by a long shot. No one would even be able to come close to them if they didn’t have to deal with all this little bs and drama. Ain’t no assistant out there worth hundreds of millions, potentially billions and the best reputation in the business. Also, all that money will buy a lot of loyalty from assistants lol.
So Donna messed up twice and instead of doing the right thing whenever she should have gone. To the right person which Rachel asked her to do she just brought up her personal life... She really didn't deserved to be a COO..... What makes her cringe is her overconfidence instead of being polite and knowing her limitations
One of the few times I will agree that Donna's ego was the only reason she ended up into this situation. She got cocky for becoming a COO, and she thought that Max is flirting her. However she got served the same plate twice which proved to be Max's biggest mistake as this was what pushed her to come with such badass idea. It served her right in the beginning but she managed to turn the tables so kudos to her.
She didnt think of the solution, rachel did. Rachel was an actual lawyer. Or to be fair, both her and rachel thought of it. Donna was just a career legal secretary. She said it herself, she deserved COO because she proved her loyalty, not because of her skills or knowledge.
He’s far more clever than she is. Far, far more clever. She fell for the trap entirely. Rachel is also useless because she didn’t do her due diligence like Mike would have. Fox would have also owned the air rights already. Entire storyline is stupid designed to make Donna look like she understands people when in reality she hasn’t a clue.
Donna's charector keep getting worse season after season. She was just a secretary and that storyline suited her perfectly for like 4 seasons. Every time they try to build her up it was just total nonsense. The new secretary Harvy hired Gretchen was more fun than donna
The whole premise of this vignette, from the 'restructuring' lease-defect premise, to the even more ridiculous 'air rights' ploy, shows how difficult it is to emulate real life legal situations with a fictional drama. None of these shows mirror the reality of their professions (law, criminal justice, medicine, etc) very accurately, but I would say that 'House' was the most successful drama of the genre, even though it, too, called for a large suspension of disbelief.
Sounds like you should just stop watching TV and just go to work? It's series genre play, not a documentary or docu-drama. Go find what's right for you or stop watching.
Yesh youre right, court room scenes should have more dead and awkward silences and coughs. Scrubs should have had more time taking place in the waiting room, and cop shows should be 70% paperwork scenes
The firm was struggling with cash flow between hemorrhaging clients and having to pay Jessica her buyout money. Now out of nowhere, she buys air rights literally damn near overnight..😂😂😂
The stupidest part of this entire situation is that multi-million dollar high-profile ultra-famous world-renovned law firm leases it's offices instead of just buying them outright. Like, sure, some small companies lease stuff, but most of the big companies in any sphere own their buildings outright, even skyscrapers.
None of the big law firms in NYC own the building they operate in. Youre a fool. Even HQs are leased by all except the tech giants that own full blown campuses
Nothing unethical took place here. The firm broke the lease of the contract and because their lease is half the market value they have been asked for a new lease... the whole dramatisation is so high-school.
I mean you kinda ignored the parts where the landlord tricked the law firm twice. If they just wanted better market value they can just be upfront and say the lease was broken here's the new agreement. The unethical aspect was resorting to trickery to get it
@@Jomskylark was it though? he was up against the "best lawfirm ever" - they would not have paid and found a legal way around it while making millions - he just got them to admit on paper what was true anyway
@@Jomskylark and that law firms never tricked anyone before? also a law firm would tell you if your gonna sign a contract like that have a lawyer look over it so you don't get F. the law firm couldn't even do that for them self. also did you skip the first minute and 20 seconds? he was upfront and said the lease was broken when they took jessica off the wall.
@@taytay8732 When Harvey talks to David Fox about the cleaning women he asks "will it be again a problem if we change the name?" Fox says him that Donna inserted the clause in the contract. From here I deduced that it is about the change from PSL to SL and then ZSL
Since when is the COO and a junior lawyer of a mid size firm able to buy the most valuable air rights in the world, overnight, without asking a single person within the firm? Such a stupid storyline.
Agreed, but to further expand on that, wouldn’t a halfway competent owner already have the air rights around his properties? But anything to prop up two characters in the name of equity. Yep, a very stupid storyline.
I love reading these comments I guess most people forgot it’s just a show it’s called entertainment, and it was entertaining. Even if there is all kinds of nitpicking we can do. You obviously all watched it to be able to comment so therefore you’re just as culpable
This is the same show were Mike Ross throws down a folder, says its a sworn affidavit during the Partner's meeting to get rid of Hardman and NOT ONE DAMN SUPPOSEDLY HARVARD EDUCATED ATTORNEY BOTHERED TO PICK IT UP AND LOOK AT IT......Cause lawyers never lie I guess.
Oh is that how you justify unethical behaviour from landlords? I am not particularly sympathetic to high power law firms, but if a landlord is doing something like this to low-income people... something bad should happen to him.
@@biocapsule7311 Unethical doesn't mean illegal. Now, I am neither as sympathetic to rich elitists, but you have to make that separation somewhere and let the market do its thing.
She was a very competent PA, she became incompetent when Harvey made her COO. I mean who turns down a promotion it’s the recruiter that has to do due diligence
@@lowkey621 well she wanted to be a senior partner and even bought in, until Katrina made Harvey rethink it and then goaded him into making her COO instead when she had no business degree. She didn’t deserve it and Harvey shouldn’t have given it to her. Fortunately they both left the firm in the end.
For those who don't watch the show, Donna is Harvey's secretary, and Rachel is paralegal. He approached Donna first because he knew she wasn't a lawyer.
Donna is no longer Harvey's secretary, she is COO and Rachel is a lawyer. He approached Donna because she was new to her position and cheated on her. But he fell into his own pit.
This is exactly why Donna shouldn’t have been promoted to COO in the first place, she was completely out of her depth in that position, now if she’d worked her way up over the course of a few seasos, being promoted here and there it would’ve been believable but no they just shoehorned her in and it made no sense
Donna, an assistant can talk like this to a landlord. Suits is a good show but I find it irritating how they put Donna as assistant and giving her script like an attorney or senior management position. They should give Donna an attorney role or senior manager position. Donna’s insane role here is why I stopped watching this tv show.
@@almac9203 Which the adjacent buildings would have bought rights too, and if they hadnt and it was available a guy whos entire identity is buildings with THE BEST LOCATION AND VIEW, securing said view would be at the top of his priorities and would never have been available for Donna and Rachel to acquire
@@j.j.1517 ikr, I loved Season 8 actually, but that ending where Harvey & Donna get together...I was like bruh...and the following season 9 was one of the worst things I've seen.
Air rights cost quite a bit of money. I'm sure Harvey would have noticed such a big accounting transaction. So it would have been much simpler just to tell him anyway
Ummm, rent increases by 100% over three years? Theres no tenant step-ups that exist like that; nor can a below market lease can be that materially off from a market lease. The firm would have had to have signed the lease 15-20 yrs ago…
2:36 I love when Donna freaks out. Now they are getting evicted and they are gonna need all power and need it fast. I just have to see what the rest of the family thinks.
Donna: "I need a lawsuit that sends our landlord to prison for the rest of his miserable life." Rachel: "Donna, calm down." Donna: "Also, I kissed Harvey." Rachel: "YOU DID WHAT???"
@@aryankushwaha1964 they are not back. Most office spaces are still for lease, shops and restaurants are empty too. Lots of people told their companies that they work remote most of the time or leave. They have realized that outside the city, they can work less to afford more living space.
@@aryankushwaha1964 even large investment firms are only back part time. and clients aren't coming into the office to conduct business so no one cares about the views who actually matters
Pretty sure, acquiring evidence under duress and terminating a lease under bad faith would open that landlord to a massive lawsuit. Donna being able to sabotage the value of his properties does work, but if he still didn't budge, the firm could easily obliterate that landlord for everything involved and might even lose that lose building in the process.
I’m no landlord, but wouldn’t it be way easier to wait until their lease expires and then not renew. Most office leases in New York are for 5 years maximum and landlords do have a right not to renew a tenants lease.
This is what happens when a gate keeper moves themselves up to the C suite. The character of Donna got more screen time than it needed. And probably a lot more importance too. Never understood why.
I like what they did with the dresses first of all a white dress symbolizing innocence then a black and white dress and in the end the famous black revenge dress of princess Diana
If you have rando billboards outside your buildings, your highbrow tenants who enjoy elite views of the city will leave...then you won't be a rich real-estate tycoon no more.
@@jaredfrazier2216 I'm so sorry. I didn't realize I was talking to a real-estate modul. I didn't realize that space in New York City is NOT at a premium or that a guy who owns thirty-whatever buildings in the city is going to have to let those buildings sit empty because of a few billboards. The threat was that he would lose PREMIUM tenants. The poor bastard might be forced to lease the property for three thousand dollars per square foot rather than four thousand. Do you know what three-quarters of ridiculously rich is? Ridiculously rich. This was an attack on his ego, not his pocket book. You're an idiot if you thought otherwise.
@@bryanalexander7571 Oh sure, he'd be able to find inferior, poorer tenants - the desperate, undiscerning kind that don't mind billboards in their view. So he'll become a less-rich real estate tycoon.
This is the sort of ridiculous conversation you think up in the shower to show how badass you are, only to abandon it as soon as you are out. This one should've stayed there
so you wanna tell me one of the biggest Lawfirms in NY and regarding to their Finances maybe worldwide has a landlord for their bureaus and did not buy them👀👀
These characters. When their partners lied to them, they got filled with emotions and played the victim card. But when they did that and their partners found out, they did the same thing with the additional "you do not understand me" comment. These things happen in Sex in the City, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy... Pretty much every show where there are strong female characters.
How do you base you biggest marketing ace on having buildings with great views, but not own any rights of said views? Was he just waiting to see who's gonna splash a snotty comercial in front of his buildings first?
What mentally sane person is going to believe that a lawyer acts without having fully read the contract he has with his landlord? As much as it is a fictional series, they treat their audience like they are idiots.
The most stupid thing about this is not that Donna messed up but that Rachel, who is supposed to be a hotshot lawyer, 1. Did not read the lease properly, 2, relied entirely on the clients (Donna) explanatipn of the facts and did not chevck the filing at court and the paperwork.
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Donna talks to a dude on the street, prints out a document he asked for and hands it to him without any official meeting with minutes, consults nothing👀
Best part is people on other comments saying "oh she isn't a lawyer".
Dude, she is basically the head of the lawyer firm, she doesn't need to be.
@@enkiimuto1041 She is head of the business side, not the law side. There is a difference.
@@mt3311 For a business part rule is the same. Any action can be done only after an official recorded request
Donna stupid real blonde
Thats how TV world functions :)
I know this is a show that is notorious for getting things wrong, but in case anyone was wondering, landlords, especially on this level, will almost never do this. Office leases usually don't last much longer than 5 years, so landlords typically wait out a lease and then renegotiate for the next lease term. Sure, no landlord wants to have rents below market, but kicking out a multi-floor tenant like this would only cause a massive spike in vacancy that would take months (maybe years) to fill and will probably require millions in new tenant improvements allowances. If the landlord had such a problem with one of their largest tenants, they wouldn't have settled on the original lease terms / not invested in the property in the first place.
Yup, landlords hate one thing and that is kicking out a paying tenant even when it comes to the best spots in the world they won't do it it just costs too much money. They have to pay themselves the taxes on the location and those add up kicking out a paying tenant can be financially devastating it can take years to get a new tenant in even if they want the property on day 1. I know there are premium spots in new york that have been vacant for 5+ years because it is hard to rent out even premium spots that cost 50k+ a month. So yeah you would have to be a giant arrogant pr!ck with significant money to burn to be willing to kick out a premium tenant who pays rent on a premium spot. Premium doesn't mean that someone will want the place it only means that it is a good spot and %99.9 of businesses don't need a 50-100k+ a month spot.
I work in commercial real estate and this is very true. The value of CRE is heavily based on vacancy. The more floors, the more lenient they will be.
And if we were being super realistic about the NYC market right now, commercial rents have taken a nose dive off a cliff with no apparent landing in sight. Dark days ahead
He was trying to bluff them into doubling their rent payments. That, or he had a suitable renter already lined up.
Because it's hollywood marxist bs to demonize landlords.
How do you, as a supposedly premier legal professional, sue someone about your lease, but you don't read your lease or understand if you have been properly served?
Donna isn’t a lawyer
You don't just read your lease (or the lease), you read it several times, and then twice more.
She got tricked
@@John-if2uz these are the "best" layers in town. Being tricked is not an option
@@mpamphsxatz2263 again, Donna isn't a lawyer. He specifically dealt with Donna knowing she wasn't a lawyer.
The frustrating part of all these shows is people not asking for help
Not telling the other partners!!!!
i agree everyones to egotistical
@@GalacticBlader It's among the factors that impact success. Along with aggression, ambition, and disagreeableness.
And saying Im sorry all the time (without being sorry really)
Used to eat at me so much, but had to learn to let it go bc there literally wouldn’t be a show w/o it lol. Harvey, Louis, Mike, Donna, Rachel. Every dramatic plot came from characters consistently being incompetent and not changing. Donna the worst of course.
Another example of the writers trying to make Donna way more important than she actually was.
True observation. Honestly I see lot of Donna type people irl. Don't have clue about business, tech or anything in that matter. Got hired because of dad's friend owns the business and these people start feeling important than they really are.
God, we share the same sentiments.
@@cu7695 donna was important lol you clearly never watched the show
Actually she was
Wokeism
Maturing is realizing that Donna causes most of the firms problems and would have been fired if Harvey did not have a weird soft spot for her.
Loyalty…he bought her loyalty for life. Besides whatever mess she created, his legal genius (ego) could unravel
I guess……..he coulda just had some unloyal assistant but have his firm become the premier firm by a long shot. No one would even be able to come close to them if they didn’t have to deal with all this little bs and drama. Ain’t no assistant out there worth hundreds of millions, potentially billions and the best reputation in the business. Also, all that money will buy a lot of loyalty from assistants lol.
Didn't harvey hire mike knowing he didn't go to law school?
"YOU'LL GET YOUR RENT WHEN YOU FIX THE DAMN DOOR!"
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Bully Maguire!
Lmfaoooo
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0:35 the coffee just disappears
It's behind the paper, you can see the bottom of the cup peeking out under the paper.
Omg...thats hilarious. 😂😂😂
@whole.milk__ I've looked...I don't see it and all 4 fingers are visible... which would make holding the cup difficult.
0:46 it's here again 😂
@@believensee8621 I know this comment is old but you can only see 2 fingers fully because the other 3 are holding the coffee up against the paper
So Donna messed up twice and instead of doing the right thing whenever she should have gone. To the right person which Rachel asked her to do she just brought up her personal life... She really didn't deserved to be a COO..... What makes her cringe is her overconfidence instead of being polite and knowing her limitations
didn't deserve*
She’s SO ANNOYING in these series
And the fact that she couldn't seperate her personal life from the interests of the firm at crucial times. She was terrible whenever it mattered lol.
Well a CFO is supposed to handle finances of the firm, she just tried to do her job and not be shown as weak. Harvey has done that multiple times.
... and we could replace "Donna" with EVERY NAME of that show's characters.
Maybe he is tired of his tenants pretending that their offices are in NYC but they are actually in Toronto.
That walk at the end they all do🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡
She isn’t a lawyer nor read the lease. That’s why he chosen her. Sneaky sneaky
Anybody who has ever been in the gallery and watched real lawyers perform knows that they aren't this smart, this quick witted, or this entertaining.
And thats why its a TV show .
What that firm needs is DENNY CRANE
Soo freaking true
Or maybe this attractive.
It's incredible how dimwitted most lawyers are.
That was great…… especially the “AIR RIGHTS”…..Cher pulled that one in her CABARET…….. great CHECK MATE !!!!!
One of the few times I will agree that Donna's ego was the only reason she ended up into this situation. She got cocky for becoming a COO, and she thought that Max is flirting her. However she got served the same plate twice which proved to be Max's biggest mistake as this was what pushed her to come with such badass idea. It served her right in the beginning but she managed to turn the tables so kudos to her.
She didnt think of the solution, rachel did. Rachel was an actual lawyer. Or to be fair, both her and rachel thought of it. Donna was just a career legal secretary. She said it herself, she deserved COO because she proved her loyalty, not because of her skills or knowledge.
So she's like season 1 Harvey?
She didn't come up with the idea, Rachel pulled the all nighter and came up with it. She just told Rachel to pull an all nighter...
He’s far more clever than she is. Far, far more clever. She fell for the trap entirely. Rachel is also useless because she didn’t do her due diligence like Mike would have. Fox would have also owned the air rights already. Entire storyline is stupid designed to make Donna look like she understands people when in reality she hasn’t a clue.
What is the reality about?
It's a show and Donna is the way the writers wanted her to
@@simone3633 and now the writers are showing you more of a dose of reality rather than she’s “Donna”
Donna is the most overrated character of the entire show.
Do you mean a developer with an unobstructed view of central park isn't just sitting waiting for someone to build in front of him??? Interesting
Your comments deserves an Oscar.
Donna's charector keep getting worse season after season.
She was just a secretary and that storyline suited her perfectly for like
4 seasons.
Every time they try to build her up it was just total nonsense.
The new secretary Harvy hired Gretchen was more fun than donna
Exactly and the reason was she knew her role and never deviated from it
The worst lawyer in the world will, at least, look at the lease.
He should call their bluff. Their costs to do what they threaten would far exceed the increased rent.
They'd be making money off the billboards, so not out of the question.
The whole premise of this vignette, from the 'restructuring' lease-defect premise, to the even more ridiculous 'air rights' ploy, shows how difficult it is to emulate real life legal situations with a fictional drama. None of these shows mirror the reality of their professions (law, criminal justice, medicine, etc) very accurately, but I would say that 'House' was the most successful drama of the genre, even though it, too, called for a large suspension of disbelief.
Sounds like you should just stop watching TV and just go to work? It's series genre play, not a documentary or docu-drama. Go find what's right for you or stop watching.
If only it were a fictional, dramatized tv show instead of a documentary eh.............
Yesh youre right, court room scenes should have more dead and awkward silences and coughs. Scrubs should have had more time taking place in the waiting room, and cop shows should be 70% paperwork scenes
So, why is the "'air rights' ploy" "ridiculous"? Don't be shy, now. :)
@@HellstreamGames Why portray them in the first place then? It's worthless escapism designed to make people live in dream worlds rather than reality.
This is a story on how not to capitulate in the face of a mistake, but to look for solutions and solve the problem without making compromises.
The firm was struggling with cash flow between hemorrhaging clients and having to pay Jessica her buyout money. Now out of nowhere, she buys air rights literally damn near overnight..😂😂😂
That's all good, but u have to get the amended lease signed, and then carry it with you, not leave it with him
another thing in the list of 100 things that were wrong
The stupidest part of this entire situation is that multi-million dollar high-profile ultra-famous world-renovned law firm leases it's offices instead of just buying them outright. Like, sure, some small companies lease stuff, but most of the big companies in any sphere own their buildings outright, even skyscrapers.
Probably in this case given that it is HQ. I might be splitting hairs a bit, but a lot of even big companies will lease out their regional offices
None of the big law firms in NYC own the building they operate in. Youre a fool. Even HQs are leased by all except the tech giants that own full blown campuses
They aren't in the re biz, also tax implications
huh. I wonder who all the renters in the large buildings are then?
No they don’t
unless our google or apple, most companies rent
Nothing unethical took place here. The firm broke the lease of the contract and because their lease is half the market value they have been asked for a new lease... the whole dramatisation is so high-school.
I mean you kinda ignored the parts where the landlord tricked the law firm twice. If they just wanted better market value they can just be upfront and say the lease was broken here's the new agreement. The unethical aspect was resorting to trickery to get it
@@Jomskylark And the dramatization was spectacular.
@@Jomskylark was it though? he was up against the "best lawfirm ever" - they would not have paid and found a legal way around it while making millions - he just got them to admit on paper what was true anyway
@@Jomskylark he didn't trick the law firm, he tricked a woman who had no business being in the position she was given
@@Jomskylark and that law firms never tricked anyone before? also a law firm would tell you if your gonna sign a contract like that have a lawyer look over it so you don't get F. the law firm couldn't even do that for them self. also did you skip the first minute and 20 seconds? he was upfront and said the lease was broken when they took jessica off the wall.
Whoever previously signed this contract from PSL had to include the validity clause in case of name change
Wasn't the name change. It was because they changed to a LLC
@@taytay8732 When Harvey talks to David Fox about the cleaning women he asks "will it be again a problem if we change the name?"
Fox says him that Donna inserted the clause in the contract.
From here I deduced that it is about the change from PSL to SL and then ZSL
Since when is the COO and a junior lawyer of a mid size firm able to buy the most valuable air rights in the world, overnight, without asking a single person within the firm? Such a stupid storyline.
Agreed, but to further expand on that, wouldn’t a halfway competent owner already have the air rights around his properties? But anything to prop up two characters in the name of equity. Yep, a very stupid storyline.
I guess they used the petty cash account :)
Because is a fictional show -_-
@@calipdis2 Ok, thank you for clarifying how television and cinema work.
lol wtf
I love reading these comments I guess most people forgot it’s just a show it’s called entertainment, and it was entertaining. Even if there is all kinds of nitpicking we can do. You obviously all watched it to be able to comment so therefore you’re just as culpable
This is the same show were Mike Ross throws down a folder, says its a sworn affidavit during the Partner's meeting to get rid of Hardman and NOT ONE DAMN SUPPOSEDLY HARVARD EDUCATED ATTORNEY BOTHERED TO PICK IT UP AND LOOK AT IT......Cause lawyers never lie I guess.
lawyers cant lie. that's against the law and another lawyer would notice that immediately.
Hardman could've opened it up himself if he knew it wasn't real
"I don't think it's possible to have a bad time if you're around" SMOOTH. Gotta remember that line.
It’s a corny line that only works on tv
@@williamforsythe9180its about delivery and confidence.
Donna, the secretary, shouldn’t be handling anything..
theyre paying HALF the market rent? any other landlord would do the same
not if your tenants are lawyers
Nah landlords happily agreed a long term rate and then saw how "successful" the tenant got.
Oh is that how you justify unethical behaviour from landlords? I am not particularly sympathetic to high power law firms, but if a landlord is doing something like this to low-income people... something bad should happen to him.
@@biocapsule7311 Unethical doesn't mean illegal. Now, I am neither as sympathetic to rich elitists, but you have to make that separation somewhere and let the market do its thing.
Donna has to be the most incompetent character I've ever seen
Apart from her sexually appealing beautiful whatever.
She was a very competent PA, she became incompetent when Harvey made her COO. I mean who turns down a promotion it’s the recruiter that has to do due diligence
@@lowkey621 well she wanted to be a senior partner and even bought in, until Katrina made Harvey rethink it and then goaded him into making her COO instead when she had no business degree. She didn’t deserve it and Harvey shouldn’t have given it to her. Fortunately they both left the firm in the end.
@@lowkey621 well, you know what they say, people rise to their level of incompetence.
@@SharatS yeh I’m intending too, not there yet. Not sure if that’s good or bad🤔
I cannot understand that everything is so easy to solve and every time they find the way that they are the maker of this series....
I'm surprised that no one here is remarking on how vicious and cold this landlord is.
So unreal of an episode/segment.
For those who don't watch the show, Donna is Harvey's secretary, and Rachel is paralegal. He approached Donna first because he knew she wasn't a lawyer.
Donna is no longer Harvey's secretary, she is COO and Rachel is a lawyer. He approached Donna because she was new to her position and cheated on her.
But he fell into his own pit.
A lawsuit wouldn't send any one to prison
This is exactly why Donna shouldn’t have been promoted to COO in the first place, she was completely out of her depth in that position, now if she’d worked her way up over the course of a few seasos, being promoted here and there it would’ve been believable but no they just shoehorned her in and it made no sense
Donna was, is and will be her whole life just a secretary with some small people skills. She has nothing to do with real life and business.
You know she’s not a real person right…?
@@Hannah-kk7wp real life meaning in the series
Love the look on his face after she tossed the amended lease on his desk 😱
Donna, an assistant can talk like this to a landlord. Suits is a good show but I find it irritating how they put Donna as assistant and giving her script like an attorney or senior management position. They should give Donna an attorney role or senior manager position. Donna’s insane role here is why I stopped watching this tv show.
Well at this point she was COO. Chief Operations Officer or something like that, a very high ranking position
She was not an assistant at the time she was a coo buddy
@@brettiwejor5936 and this little exchange showed why she shouldn't be
Donna was the COO, I think that most of you forgot that characters need to evolve through the seasons
Wait, so I’m expected to believe that the guy pulling all this contract strategy doesn’t have a handle on the air rights to his properties?
😂😂😂
It wasn't his air rights but the air rights of the adjacent buildings
@@almac9203 Which the adjacent buildings would have bought rights too, and if they hadnt and it was available a guy whos entire identity is buildings with THE BEST LOCATION AND VIEW, securing said view would be at the top of his priorities and would never have been available for Donna and Rachel to acquire
Gotta admit, Sarah Rafferty did a great job helping viewers loathe Donna in the later seasons .
the later seasons sucked anyway
Her and Harvey getting together was fucking stupid too. The last seasons of the show were brutal to watch
@@j.j.1517 ikr, I loved Season 8 actually, but that ending where Harvey & Donna get together...I was like bruh...and the following season 9 was one of the worst things I've seen.
Why the Indian men are so salty about Donna's Power?😂😂
@@j.j.1517 lol of course. Donna and Harvey should have been together since season 1.
we must really thank this guy because of whom zane specter litt was formed and the 3 name partners stayed in business
And I know what we call you.
Donna with the subtle burn
fox has good taste in carpets
Hey, i noticed that too😄
But do the carpets match the….
Another numbnut!!! Bravo!
Air rights cost quite a bit of money. I'm sure Harvey would have noticed such a big accounting transaction. So it would have been much simpler just to tell him anyway
But they get the money back
Ummm, rent increases by 100% over three years? Theres no tenant step-ups that exist like that; nor can a below market lease can be that materially off from a market lease. The firm would have had to have signed the lease 15-20 yrs ago…
Those air rights would be astronomically expensive and in no way shape or form would she be able to keep that from the rest of the firm
I have no idea what happened, or what air rights means ... but hey! this was entertaining
Don't mess with Donna.
Title Shud be : Donna almost gets law firm out
2:36 I love when Donna freaks out. Now they are getting evicted and they are gonna need all power and need it fast. I just have to see what the rest of the family thinks.
GPT
Donna: "I need a lawsuit that sends our landlord to prison for the rest of his miserable life."
Rachel: "Donna, calm down."
Donna: "Also, I kissed Harvey."
Rachel: "YOU DID WHAT???"
It is interesting how covid makes this plot line irrelevant now when buildings are empty
It is new york they (people) are back
@@aryankushwaha1964 they are not back. Most office spaces are still for lease, shops and restaurants are empty too. Lots of people told their companies that they work remote most of the time or leave. They have realized that outside the city, they can work less to afford more living space.
@@aryankushwaha1964 even large investment firms are only back part time. and clients aren't coming into the office to conduct business so no one cares about the views who actually matters
Pretty sure, acquiring evidence under duress and terminating a lease under bad faith would open that landlord to a massive lawsuit.
Donna being able to sabotage the value of his properties does work, but if he still didn't budge, the firm could easily obliterate that landlord for everything involved and might even lose that lose building in the process.
You’d think her being a lawyer she would of known about the suit not being filed and also the clause in the lease, but hey… what do I know 😂😂
Yeah, umm, I don’t know if you watched the show, but she’s not a lawyer. She’s only a highly promoted secretary.
@@isteal9927 Yes. But Rachel is. No?
*have
Donna slithered outta that one. But she's so gorgeous it doesn't matter.
I’m no landlord, but wouldn’t it be way easier to wait until their lease expires and then not renew. Most office leases in New York are for 5 years maximum and landlords do have a right not to renew a tenants lease.
This show is informative.. i got to google what a air right is. But made me google it. Nice...
I repute that a judge can compel anyone to answer & for their answer to be truthful.
I love both of them! ❤❤❤
Donna : I know people
Goes ahead and kisses a stranger and gets duped
Women 🥤 🍵
This is what happens when a gate keeper moves themselves up to the C suite. The character of Donna got more screen time than it needed. And probably a lot more importance too. Never understood why.
Nice job.
Air right in NYC sold separately from the land?
Where did the cup go at the 0:35 mark, and reappear at the 0:45 mark?
I like what they did with the dresses first of all a white dress symbolizing innocence then a black and white dress and in the end the famous black revenge dress of princess Diana
He played her 😂
Yacht girl, Me-again.
Where t coffee go?😂
How can an ordinary employee certify an application made to reconsider the decision to increase security deposit? It sure needs the sign of a parter.
Donna was made Senior Partner and COO of the Law firm.
@@almac9203 I see
Nothing ever happens like this
I'd have had to let them put up the billboards and remain a ridiculously rich real-estate tycoon.
If you have rando billboards outside your buildings, your highbrow tenants who enjoy elite views of the city will leave...then you won't be a rich real-estate tycoon no more.
@@andrewrollout1657
Have you been to New York? He would have no trouble finding new tenants.
@@bryanalexander7571 this isnt just a apartment for rent dude lol you have no idea what youre talking about
@@jaredfrazier2216
I'm so sorry. I didn't realize I was talking to a real-estate modul. I didn't realize that space in New York City is NOT at a premium or that a guy who owns thirty-whatever buildings in the city is going to have to let those buildings sit empty because of a few billboards.
The threat was that he would lose PREMIUM tenants. The poor bastard might be forced to lease the property for three thousand dollars per square foot rather than four thousand. Do you know what three-quarters of ridiculously rich is? Ridiculously rich.
This was an attack on his ego, not his pocket book. You're an idiot if you thought otherwise.
@@bryanalexander7571 Oh sure, he'd be able to find inferior, poorer tenants - the desperate, undiscerning kind that don't mind billboards in their view. So he'll become a less-rich real estate tycoon.
"oh this is not personal, just business" literally seconds after attacking him being an insecure little man... Ok.
This is the sort of ridiculous conversation you think up in the shower to show how badass you are, only to abandon it as soon as you are out.
This one should've stayed there
This scene showed why Harvey promoting Donna to COO was premature. Donna is all talk without real substance.
Rachel got the uk wedding dress Inspiration from donnas white dress on the first scenes
Love Donna!
Love Suits
Donna is the biggest weakness of the firm.
That was so nice.
When you live with Harvard lawyers, You become one
huh no...You clearly see how bad Donna messed up
Not. See how nicely he solved it
@@kaynechan-li5933 . Yeah
Well clearly David Fox knows how to pull every trick in the playbook possible ;)
This is why men are needed lmaooo
Does your PD TV have the same meaning as PD TV has in France?
so you wanna tell me one of the biggest Lawfirms in NY and regarding to their Finances maybe worldwide has a landlord for their bureaus and did not buy them👀👀
In real life - he would already own the air rights. This is a stupid scene
These characters. When their partners lied to them, they got filled with emotions and played the victim card. But when they did that and their partners found out, they did the same thing with the additional "you do not understand me" comment. These things happen in Sex in the City, Desperate Housewives, Grey's Anatomy... Pretty much every show where there are strong female characters.
Donna has the best outfits.
How do you base you biggest marketing ace on having buildings with great views, but not own any rights of said views? Was he just waiting to see who's gonna splash a snotty comercial in front of his buildings first?
He had that coming.
They lied and said that season 10 was releasing and it never did
That didn't hold up well. Now it's nostalgic, from back in the day when commercial and retail landlords could make demands.
Justice served
We have the right to put tampons on your windows, because of magic. Him, ok what do you want?
What mentally sane person is going to believe that a lawyer acts without having fully read the contract he has with his landlord? As much as it is a fictional series, they treat their audience like they are idiots.
The most stupid thing about this is not that Donna messed up but that Rachel, who is supposed to be a hotshot lawyer, 1. Did not read the lease properly, 2, relied entirely on the clients (Donna) explanatipn of the facts and did not chevck the filing at court and the paperwork.
WHERE DID THE COFFEE GO?
It's behind the paper, you can see the bottom of the cup peeking out under the paper.