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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2022
  • Derek in this video shows us how he installed a new combination boiler in his own house.

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  • @JohnB1872
    @JohnB1872 Год назад +2

    Patience of a Saint, well done Derek, another great video. Thanks.

  • @paulg2726
    @paulg2726 Год назад +3

    An ideal vogue is a really nice boiler with a 10 or 12-year warranty

  • @paulsmith2931
    @paulsmith2931 Год назад +21

    Must have been a freebie fitting an Ariston

    • @petergaze1701
      @petergaze1701 Год назад

      What is wrong with an Ariston....Explain please?

    • @AD-nd5ex
      @AD-nd5ex Год назад +3

      @@petergaze1701 terrible customer service and technical help from Mike (b&q boiler ) only good thing about ariston is there water heaters under sink and multi point

    • @petergaze1701
      @petergaze1701 Год назад +1

      @@AD-nd5ex Thanks for that info

    • @heatpump8566
      @heatpump8566 Год назад +2

      Awful boilers, have replaced loads. Zero quality, stick to washing machines

    • @sammyb99
      @sammyb99 Год назад +3

      Customer service is shocking water heaters is all there good at

  • @paulgannon3261
    @paulgannon3261 Год назад +6

    This is one of the great things in our trade. Nobody ever agrees. I love Worcesters as they are my most reliable in the boilers I fit and cover and personally would never have a Ferroli, Viesmann or Ariston as these are the 3 most unreliable and go to repair more. Saying that Vaillant are keeping me busy in repairs as they are not what they used to be. I wonder what people think of the non league clubs like Saunier Duvall , Chaffoteaux , Vokera , Biasi or Alpha.
    Years ago I got and band new Chaffoteaux combi on a field trial for £100 in 1996. The rep said they would come check it every few months. Broke down after 2 months and never ad the case back on after as it broke down weekly. In the 2 years I had it from new it cost me £500 in parts. So binned it for a Worcester that is still going strong today and only ever changed a water pressure switch.

    • @j.j8114
      @j.j8114 Год назад +1

      And few red seals I bet? 😂

    • @paulgannon3261
      @paulgannon3261 Год назад

      @@j.j8114 yes but that is only a preventative measure. Only ever had one that cracked and caused an issue. But if you swap them as per MIs you have no troubles. Still come across loads of graphite seals on the Vaillants and others with the washing nachine burner.

    • @paulgannon3261
      @paulgannon3261 Год назад

      @@mcDarkD 44 years in the trade. 30 years self employed and worked on a damn many more boilers than most. My view is fact based on my experience not a childish bias I have never had to swap a pcb on a Bosch in over 12years or a Vaillant in the last 6. They are both reliable in that respect. You should wind your neck in and respect others opinions and experience as per my initial comment on how we all like different boilers.

    • @paulgannon3261
      @paulgannon3261 Год назад +2

      @@mcDarkD I feel your pain. A lot of us have been there with vaillant. I swapped a water sensor due to I think F75 long time ago worked great for a day then went again so as a test put the old one back I and same worked again for the day. Vaillant suggested eeplacing the whole wiring loom, ridiculous I know. Long story short the fault was the sensor swapped the new one and it was OK.
      Strangely and you may laugh I have started to fit a few Ideals again in the past year giving customers a cheaper choice on new install and after the Icon and Isars I swore I would never fit an Ideal agian but some get better and some get worse. Been a long time since I fitted a Gloworm even with the offer of 15 years I am still dubious. And Baxi don't star me I used to be on the approved program so fitted 6 pumas in a row and all were awful and cost me in a few lost customers so now I stick to what I know and keep my customers and Worcester have been my go to boiler for ages.
      Life used to be easy with potteryon kingfishers and flamingos and the odd Netaheat but now we have to use our brains to repair boilers and mine is very old and very tired.

    • @paulgannon3261
      @paulgannon3261 Год назад

      @@mcDarkD totally agree on the plastic manifolds splitting. I have not had any issues swapping and if I do swap I fit a mini expansion vessel to avoid future issues. What does annoy me is that it should be built in that way it cannot be missed.

  • @philipbrown2628
    @philipbrown2628 Год назад +2

    Encountered my first combi 35 years ago in a gite in France, it was an arriston, lighting blew an internal fuze, thought I’d tackle it myself so the farmer would keep my deposit ! Took the cover off an was amazed, never seen anything like it ! Thought nothing like that would catch on in uk !

  • @bentzionroyde4786
    @bentzionroyde4786 Год назад +1

    Thanks Derek great video 👍

  • @robbiebobson5746
    @robbiebobson5746 Год назад +1

    I look forward to meeting you when I inevitably come to repair it under warranty . ATAG is the way

  • @mgbroadsterJ
    @mgbroadsterJ 9 месяцев назад

    Nice job .

  • @SteliosPavlou
    @SteliosPavlou Год назад +4

    The main reason why you should not buy the lesser known brands of boiler if you're Not a gas engineer is..... When getting your boiler serviced or repaired it's extremely likely that the engineer will have not have any parts on the van that may be required to complete the service. Plus the parts are usually a lot more expensive than the well known manufacturers.

    • @hammondeggz108
      @hammondeggz108 Год назад

      I get your point, personally I don't carry any pcbs, fans, or other common faulty parts on the van, as they're all pretty expensive and how many makes and models should you have knocking around the van? A quick Google on a greenstar genuine Worcester pcb £270 ish. Ariston e combi genuine pcb £130 ish... a fan for them £235 Worcester and £52 Ariston. All prices taken from Google and same supplier for accuracy. There'll be better prices with more googling and you own trade account terms taken into consideration but I think what you mentioned about costs and van stock aren't entirely accurate...

  • @SuperTrooper9000
    @SuperTrooper9000 Год назад

    How was that coffee, looks like you need a Magnacleanse on the water supply lol, another great video, thanks.

  • @rayc1503
    @rayc1503 Год назад +3

    If it were my own house I'd have put in a Viessmann or a Baxi 800 combi. I've not long ago installed a vitodens 100-w 32kw system boiler in combination with a Megaflow eco plus cylinder at home.
    Keep smashing out great great content Dez, 👍.

    • @elwittinio2865
      @elwittinio2865 Год назад

      Baxi 800 all day long 🤟💪

    • @andrewcooke5392
      @andrewcooke5392 Год назад +1

      Stuck a Viessmann in mine, great boilers. I seem to fix lots of worcesters, but there are lots of worcesters...

  • @stevenmawhinney5007
    @stevenmawhinney5007 Год назад

    Cracking idea with flue through paper to know where to mark for bracket/jig

  • @DannJ1
    @DannJ1 Год назад +2

    Monument olive puller 👌

  • @Ianf1x
    @Ianf1x Год назад

    I thought Atag. For me Ariston my first boiler never worked from new. The hole house was new plumbing on 15/22mm copper pipe . The worster I was told not to have is still working 15 years now.

  • @nicholasviney5975
    @nicholasviney5975 Год назад +10

    You can tell he's touched a worcester by the blood trail

  • @hunterb9273
    @hunterb9273 Год назад +1

    Ariston, wow. Leaks galore. Iso valves won't work after two weeks 🤪

  • @mickclark4861
    @mickclark4861 Год назад

    Best £45 spent olive cutter! No more junior hacksaw and flat end screwdriver days! So quick to use, expensive but well worth it! Just don’t lose it.. 😂

  • @yilmaz7215
    @yilmaz7215 Год назад

    Hi Derek nice video, what was the reason for installing a blender valve between flow and return. Thank you.

  • @k20aa
    @k20aa Год назад

    Nice job I can't believe you turned off that 15mm stopcock it already had leak marks below it 👍

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  Год назад

      Called desperation 😂👍🏻

    • @k20aa
      @k20aa Год назад

      @@tomkatgastraining I hope you get round to changing that . What a bag of nightmares . 😂👍

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  Год назад

      @@k20aa new bathroom installation coming soon 🤣

  • @martinwright7093
    @martinwright7093 Год назад

    Often see Aristons installed with LPG, especially eCombis. To be honest they seem really reliable, rarely have any issues with them.

  • @charvais
    @charvais Год назад +1

    I'm surprised you didn't insulate the wall behind the boiler, it looked like I gets cold with all that mould from condensation

  • @peterryan7827
    @peterryan7827 Год назад +1

    Interesting project well done ,i am curious with all that video timing how long did it take you to get it finished ,thanks again,

  • @micmac69
    @micmac69 Год назад +1

    Can't remember if existing Worcester bosch boiler was no longer working 🤔 If it was why didn’t you powerflush before? Surely adding crap into the system wouldn't be my first choice 😂
    Also do you have to install a auto bypass valve on a combi boiler now 🤔
    My choice strangely is the Worcester bosch Greenstar Cdi Compact ERP.
    Just hoping they sort out some of the install awkward issues 😂

  • @car6737
    @car6737 Год назад +1

    Love it man in action giving blood too, where are your gas bottles and what size do you buy?
    I have 19kg for my static caravan very expensive to run.

  • @johnlesoudeur3653
    @johnlesoudeur3653 Год назад

    A nice bit of finger pointing around the flue lol.

  • @mattsan70
    @mattsan70 Год назад

    can it do weather comp? Modulate to 2kw ?

  • @muzzz33
    @muzzz33 Год назад +1

    I have the monument screw down olive puller ,good for tight spots ,and also the ones I nicked from Scottish gas ,22mm and 15mm splitters with the two blades that shave the edges of the olive quick and easy .
    Noticed the pump on the aristons one of the new type erp that looks like no head is fitted . Not seen one in the flesh yet , who make them do you know

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  Год назад

      Not a clue on the pump 😂👍🏻

    • @micmac69
      @micmac69 Год назад

      I've always used the monument olive removers but your one definitely looks more versatile 👌

  • @nigelhollowell2010
    @nigelhollowell2010 Год назад

    You have to take off the blow off to solder it ?? Harsh as that could not crimped one on ?

  • @davidpritchard9829
    @davidpritchard9829 Год назад

    Love your videos, including this one. Some people just want to criticise but you have made the choice that's right for you!
    It's an informed decision and you have an excellent warranty if necessary. It's great to see the problems that you encounter with the old system.
    You can tell who the dodgy heating engineers probably are, as they go for the latest, most expensive systems without even knowing your requirements or budget! There's no consideration from those who are critical that you are working on your own property, so you can get a carpet dirty if you want to, as you know what your plans are.
    Keep up the good work and I hope that you aren't unlucky; even the most expensive boilers can suffer from a manufacturing problem!
    A less expensive boiler which is installed properly is much better than an expensive one which is installed poorly. Just look at the lack of flue sealing of the old boiler.

  • @markchristohperowen6806
    @markchristohperowen6806 Год назад

    12.45 you forgot increasing the rad sizes? (unsure on this) to part L . i am right in thinking on boiler swaps we are required to upgrade all right? that require upgrading.
    i hope you gave feedback to the ariston guy. i havent seen if theres space for spanners underneath(some manufactures make it harder than others) for compression fitting and tightening looks like you may be able to pull a nut and olive through the rubber gromet on casing. on prv changes. why is it so short that you have to extend it?

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  Год назад +1

      This is just the installation part commissioning and testing coming soon

  • @pallsmortion4750
    @pallsmortion4750 Год назад

    You fitted a mini shock arrester on the cold, are you on a water meter as you said you can't find the stop tap?

  • @47thfraz
    @47thfraz Год назад +2

    ATAG Economiser should have been fitted for maximum efficiency :D

    • @dd5617
      @dd5617 Год назад

      Half the atags I've come across don't even have a drain off inside lol

  • @bryantruter6296
    @bryantruter6296 Год назад

    Well done Derik ! Good riddance to the Worcester Bosch Junior .However, my experience with repairs to Ariston and their Cousin Ferroli boilers over the last 10 years , has cemented in my opinion that they are about as good as this RUclips text editing keyboard! For a good reliable boiler , it's the good old Potterton Baxi , and thereafter the INTERGAS boiler , and also Vaillant Ecotec plus boiler ....but Italian boilers need to stay with Gino In Sicily please !

  • @Hackmudu
    @Hackmudu Год назад

    I am living in Kashmir which one I can get in here as the affordable system of gas boiler

  • @marvindallen8916
    @marvindallen8916 Год назад

    👍🏾

  • @lhfloors
    @lhfloors Год назад

    Good luck please update how it runs

  • @blossmctoss
    @blossmctoss Год назад

    Split olive if don't come off with grips, I use hack saw normally works. Split it then removes easily enough

  • @juyhfrty
    @juyhfrty Год назад

    Did you change all your rads for larger 55° rads so you could sign the benchmark off as building regs compliant?

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  Год назад

      Need to watch the commissioning video coming soon to find out 😜

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man Год назад +1

    Honestly I thought you would have gone down the idea logic max 2 gen 3 route with lpg kit , not a fan of Allston myself had an old combi years ago in the family house in the end it was changed following a boiler seal failure burn through 6 months after a British Gas service who didn’t charge the gasket seal

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  Год назад +1

      Ideas don’t range rate so they were out of the equation.

  • @efrygasservices6169
    @efrygasservices6169 Год назад

    I thought you may have gone with a Glowworm or Vaillant.

  • @SuperWayneyb
    @SuperWayneyb Год назад

    🤘😎🤘

  • @ranat5526
    @ranat5526 Год назад +1

    @9.08 All that mold will definitely give anyone a serve chest infection!!

  • @ElTelBaby
    @ElTelBaby Год назад +1

    @ 9:00 ROFL They saw U coming...
    Never needed one...

  • @namAlexander
    @namAlexander Год назад

    what a mess has that boiler ever been used in the last 10 years lol, you'd think all theses issues would be covered in a survey

  • @farukadam1696
    @farukadam1696 Год назад

    Hi Derek
    I'm installing Viessmann vitodens 100w 30kw combi or 050 30kw
    12 years warranty terms and conditions not good on ariston
    Regards
    Faruk

  • @FLYNN..
    @FLYNN.. Год назад +3

    Ariston, did they give you the boiler for free 🤣

  • @jezlucas3878
    @jezlucas3878 Год назад

    They are actually not bad boilers

  • @JM-uo5vp
    @JM-uo5vp Год назад

    Personally I thought you were going to say the baxi 600, I would’ve chosen a valiant, no one on this planet would’ve thought you would have gone with an Ariston

  • @Finglesham
    @Finglesham Год назад

    You wouldn't have lifted my old Ideal Standard E Type 80,000 BTU like that. It took four people from the gas engineers' company to take it out and put it on the van. ( 44 years service without problems) 12 year sounds a good warranty. I have a 8 years on my new WB 30i. But will gas be available then.? I notice you have not swallowed the government propaganda and had a heat pump! I am sure ou have assistants. Interesting.

  • @jockster5525
    @jockster5525 Год назад +1

    LPG limits choice somewhat , only ever maintained ariston boilers . They're not bad boilers for the money 💸..good job mate

  • @3fingerclay439
    @3fingerclay439 Год назад

    Too bad UK doesn’t have shark bite fittings.

  • @alistercarmichael4990
    @alistercarmichael4990 Год назад

    Hmm.
    Hang the template on the flue and then rotate the bracket level around a different centre.
    You should level the template round the flue. Then it's done.

    • @dd5617
      @dd5617 Год назад

      Eh? What u sayin

    • @rayc1503
      @rayc1503 Год назад

      Seriously, I'm confused reading this comment. What you're saying might actually be a great idea. However it hasn't been explained clearly.

    • @petergaze1701
      @petergaze1701 Год назад +1

      He did dopey

    • @micmac69
      @micmac69 Год назад

      Trouble with your idea not always are true. Derek's way would be my choice 😂🤷‍♂️

  • @gus19830
    @gus19830 Год назад

    Had an Ariston combi boiler 12 years never missed a beat. Worcester Bosch like VW over rated

  • @paulrose1211
    @paulrose1211 Год назад

    You don't say how big your house is, only refer to the hot water demand being sufficient for your needs. So 30KW for not water but this boiler is rated @ 28KW for CH. You have informed us in previous videos that we only need 6-9KW to heat an average house and these bigger boilers will not modulate or condense ?? Is this a contradictory video to everything you have said about efficiency previously ??? This has confused the hell out of me. Agree with trappex filters though. Great products. Personally I would have went baxi 600/800 ( but lpg is a different ball game)

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  Год назад +1

      This is the installation part of the video not the commissioning of the boiler so I guess your concerns will be answered then

  • @kevtherev6472
    @kevtherev6472 Год назад

    Not a heat pump then…?! 😂

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  Год назад

      House isn’t insulated enough for one and we live at the top of a big hill so it would never work at the moment

  • @trapmantv.nocopyrightmusic593
    @trapmantv.nocopyrightmusic593 Год назад

    Someone is getting paid to advertise these boilers 😂😂😂

    • @tomkatgastraining
      @tomkatgastraining  Год назад

      No there not, but if they want to pay me they can.

    • @trapmantv.nocopyrightmusic593
      @trapmantv.nocopyrightmusic593 Год назад

      @@tomkatgastraining “they are” why didn’t you just stick in an isar then? I can just imagine telling someone ‘ I took out a Worcester and stick in an Ariston’ 😂

  • @alanc1406
    @alanc1406 Год назад

    Why don't you wear gloves when you install. You have blood dripping all over pipework and customers carpet.. safety first

  • @geetee50
    @geetee50 Год назад +1

    bad choice ...BAXI 600 all day long

  • @iancowan1038
    @iancowan1038 Год назад

    Could you really not afford something better 🤣🤦🏻

  • @poorfordtransitowner1627
    @poorfordtransitowner1627 Год назад +1

    This was embarrassing. Can tell your not on a price

    • @thomasrobins7411
      @thomasrobins7411 Год назад

      Love to see one of your installs, your belly probably hits the ground when you step out of your white rusted transit

  • @davietaylor4763
    @davietaylor4763 Год назад

    And you believe anything his guy says ! , for Christ sake look at the state of his pipework ,a six year old good do better

  • @vmax1399
    @vmax1399 Год назад

    Did i know it's on blood on your hand funny the Old Worcester always seems to bite a bit.

  • @quietman2672
    @quietman2672 Год назад

    I wouldn't let this bloke repair my bike never mind install a gas boiler.