Cheapest/easiest way to add boost to your LS engine?
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🤣I enjoyed the high pitched voices ! I am currently fitting/fighting a truck LS into my Miata and I can definately assure you a turbo will not fit without seriously getting "creative".
😂 There's inevitably one in every crowd lol.
Sounds fun, good luck!
Hell yeah man. Thanks for highlighting your downfalls and your mistakes during your build. Thats the shit the rest of us need to listen to and learn from. Thank you. 👊
Probably the best video out there about turboing LS for little money.
Cheap and to the point! I like your style. Looking forward to seeing the truck run.
Thank you sir. Real simple and plain video filled with all the key information. That is just a GREAT VIDEO for street application. THANK YOU AGAIN.
I’m ordering one of these today for my ls swapped g body. Thanks for the great advise dude!
Always enjoy your videos thanks for being honest and down to earth man..
"If you ever played with cups in the bathtub, you know that" hahahaha
Informative as always. Thanks!
6:48 I'm glad you mentioned the drain I'm running a 02 camaro oil pan and have the oil level sensor plugged, this makes it easier because I was about to tap and drill the timing cover
1 year update it works well and sure beats having to cut threads into the "right" spot
I love the raw honesty of this video... mood! Lol
Man its like you where reading my mind. Thanks for sharing the info.
JR. As usual, you knocked it out of the park. Thanks for making this video for us. Couch
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Like this videos learning alot plus saving me alot of time and headaches keep them coming
This is a great video on how to turbo your LS. I have a 2002 2500HD 6.0 with the 4L80 with a utility bed on the back. I’m not looking for a race truck just looking for better fuel mileage and drivability
Good info JR. As usual.
Great video. This is the stuff I was needing
wealth of knowledge as always
Love your attitude, im not being sarcastic. 👍Thanks for the turbo info.
Also all the new go pro suck even in heat. Lost lifting a whole truck just having them sit in the sun. Two of them over heated while filming, it is what it is.
Go figure, action cams can't handle action
@@TheDrivewayEngineer yup
"If you ever played with cups in the bathtub you know that" it really is that simple! Best explanation for the internet ever
Another appreciated video 🤘🏻
14:18 use a intake boot from a 7.3 Powerstroke 38R style turbo from cover, has that tight radius I think could possibly work for you. Like 50$
That's exactly what I want for my 2011 Silverado crew cab 4.8 4x4 should make some power. I have to subscribe Thanks 👍
Good stuff man. I want to put a turbo in my 2015 Yukon because more power is moar better.
Thanks JR
Cool stuff
Love this- bolt it on and go!
Im running this same exact setup on my 4.8 AR5 Sierra
We appreciate you, dude.
I appreciate that!
Very impressive, this upload...
The ICT billet oil plate is cheaper than the tap for the factory piece lol
I actually have a set of NPT taps lol, most people probably don't
I can't wait to see the shaved intake so I can see if I want to do it!
I've done it before, and I can tell you now, you don't want to do it lol, it's a lot of work.
Looking forward to you testing it out, I'm wondering if after testing it you won't want the other turbo. For just cruising around it should be plenty and a handful to keep it under control without any type of traction control. Like you mentioned your not really into drag racing tracks more or less doing burnouts and going out and having fun.
Great timing. I was pricing LSA superchargers last night and after I added everything up it was way, way, way out of my price range. I'm going to start with a cam and maybe I'll win the lottery by the time I'm ready for boost.
My truck with the converter, cam, and gears... Is nothing to be ashamed of, and not at all boring... The average yokel decides I must have 500 HP 😂
But yeah, LSA setups are way not worth the cash
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I never should have gotten rid of my turbo diesel. Oh how I miss that torque. Chasing dreams. 😂
Hey great Vid!!!!
Good video
Right on
Best fuckin ls turbo video on RUclips. Driveway engineer for president!
They'd shoot me lol
Boost is cool
Oil level above the return line... then no blow by pushing on turbo bearings. ( one plus to go below the pan level on the return. )
This is perfect for my truck, a '68 C10 with a cammed 5.3 and a 700r4. I was thinking of doing the same thing and limiting it to the 6oohp level at the wheel. That's over 675 at the crank and at that level the trans, rear and chassis will need an upgrade. Not Cheap. I build LS's and do swaps and I hear all the time "I want 1000". As you know it can be done but what's required to support that safely with any kind of lifespan isn't cheap.
You sure the 700r4 will hold up?
What if his 700r4 doesn't hold up?
Then he fixes it... Not the end of the world.
@@fuzzymoto896 No way, I've been building for my whole life and there is no way a 700r4 will last for any meaningful time at a 700hp level. That was my point, at my trucks current level, just shy of 400hp at the tire it's OK. Add a turbo, that's all, and that trans is done. I would have to upgrade to a 4L80, do some frame strengthening and possibly upgrade brakes and rear, almost $5000 in parts alone.
Anyone can take an LS to 700hp cheap and easy, having the vehicle live happy is another story and that cost has to be added to the equation.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer Then it breaks again and he's in for another rebuild. At the 700hp level you need a 4L80, a 700r4 unless it's built with Sonnax parts doesn't stand a chance and those tranny's are almost 6 grand a pop with a converter.
I know you don't want to hear it, that's what I like about you and I agree but a 700 just isn't up to the task for any meaningful time.
Better to upgrade to a tranny that will take the power in mostly stock form and is programable. Ask me how I know.
All of that depends on the weight of the vehicle you're trying to move,tire size and gearing... There's lots of corvettes running big horsepower numbers thru built 4l60s for example.
Great video as usual does Darryl have gapped rings or did you just send it?
I do not open these engines
I dig your fuking perspective 👍I’m subbing
2:18 ay wheel horse, let’s go! 😎
Watching your older videos, you mentioned that nitrous was the second most cost effective power adder (ahead of superchargers). Could you do a video on explaining how it works, wet vs dry, tuning the jets/how safe it is to run without a pcm tune or taking the engine apart, and putting together a system?
That's a good idea, I haven't messed with nitrous in a good long while, need to look at what's available currently
@@TheDrivewayEngineer thanks looking forward to it
Great video...breaks all the BS down very simply. Question, in addition to injectors and fuel pump, any need to be worried about stock internals on a 6.0 LS holding up to that much HP? I run an L96 with a 6l90, so not worried about the tranny as much.
I'm not worried about it, of course you can blow anything up through neglect, abuse, or ineptitude
Would 100's be enough for e85 and a 7875 at mild boost (About the same 14psi as you)? Or are the cng 160's probably better at that power level? Great video. Interested if you do shave the intake, could you go over the evap and AIT mods? Thanks for the content!
100's, by the math, can support 1000 flywheel on E85
@@TheDrivewayEngineer Thank you
This is pretty much exactly everything I bought minus the log manifold that I'm putting in my 89 c1500. I call it Amazon turbo build
Just so you know, I've seen multiple snake eater injectors take a shit when at higher fuel pressure under boost. These were failing right out of the box. As I would bring fuel pressure up, they would just straight stop opening. Guess it could happen to any injector, but just something to be aware of.
How many do you know of that happening too and do you know about what pressure?
Just curious, I've heard and read many good reviews and know some guys putting down serious power with no issues.
@@BDauto86 I got a video around somewhere. They started shutting off at about 78 psi. For most people, that's not a problem.
I'm curious what the point of raising the fuel pressure would be... seems like a bad idea that would cause issues like ruining perfectly good injectors for instance
@@shawnwimberly9294 a lot of these boosted or turbo applications have fuel pressure regulator with boost reference. With that line hooked up and working correctly it raises your fuel pressure as boost pressure raises to keep from leaning out.
@@BDauto86 where is the issue with increasing volume at the same pressure??
That's awesome! I got a LQ4 6.0 that I'm in the process of putting into a 85 S10 . Do you think a gt45 would be ok on a 6.0 ?
They work great on V8's
According to most, a 6.0 would need a larger turbo. Will it work and make some boost? Hell yah! Depends on your power goals, typically the problem runs into back pressure on the hot side. Not being able to flow enough to make more boost. So the 7875 is more sized for a 6L than a Gt45, which works well for 4.8/5.3's.
Can you do a video like this explaining E85.
Yes
The plumbing adds a bunch to the price.
What motor mounts did you use??
I love how you give no fucks and are a smart ass! Rock on bro
I have seen a lot of good things about the GT45 Ebay turbo. How long do you think the turbo will last? I have a Super Coupe Tbird with a Supercharged V6 that I want to do this on.
Longer than this engine will last 😂
Hell, I am tripling my HP / Torque with just a NA LS swap. LOL
Maybe it's been asked but what did you do about vacuum lines (use a vacuum block?) and fuel pressure regulator? Trying to get new improved ideas and parts. Last time I used an on3 Boost Ref FPR and it was junk.
My fuel pressure regulator is a stock truck one.
The vacuum lines are all stock also
94👍's up DWE thanks for sharing
361 foot pounds of torque
to the ground is enough for me on the streets pulling a trailer
What are you going to do about the fpr. Do you think the kemso 340 will push through it?
I'm not going to do anything about the FPR.
The Kemso has not pushed through it in 3 years
Hey JR … I’m running an LS1 with a gt45 . I have the terminator x and 80 lb accel injectors.. I would love to hear your thoughts on not having a waste gate since the turbo is maxed around 14 lbs ? Thanks for your time and help
It's maxed at around 14 lbs, at like 6k on a V8, it can probably hit 25 at 2500 if you suddenly drop throttle.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer soooo… waste gate it is. I think I’ll weld it to the housing like you did
I don't need no stinkin waste- BOOOM!!! Oh.. ohh I guess I do 🤔... Hahaha!
Does it matter if you use the waste gate on the crossover or you put it on the housing? Any difference or personal preference?
If you want to get all scientific about it, yes...
In reality, no...
I just already have mine on the housing, so there it stays
Did the crossover pipe come with the log manifold and do you think it will clear a th350…….I have basically the same truck and am on the fence about throwing a couple lbs at her
They're 235 each, you can buy them singly or together
It clears a 4L60/80e in 2wd or 4wd application so it should clear a th350/400 no problem.
👍💪
I didn't know you reopened your Facebook group haha
Delete a few thousand people and it's a nicer place
How do you get ahold of the manifold guy
Do you have a link for the v band down pipe adapter you use?
Comes with the adapter linked in the description 🙂
E85... you don't need a content sensor unless you plan to switch between pump gas and E85. You won't be pushing it hard enough for it to make a big enough difference to cause problems if its 70% to 100%. Its nice to have the sensor, but not mandatory... unless you splash mix it often. I've been doing the E85-E100 thing for 15 years, and even with my 13:1 iron headed 455 Pontiac it didn't care if it had 70% or 100% ethanol, it ran essentially the same, it just made more power on 100%. You probably won't see the cylinder pressures that engine does, as it has a custom ground cam that maximizes cylinder pressure between 2000 and 4000rpm. It was my first mileage mule... 20mpg with a Qjet and ludicrous power in my 70 GTO... more to come on that.
You do need larger injectors, stock LS injectors (non flex) start running into duty cycle problems around 40% to 50%, with boost it will be considerably lower. 100lbs should be fine for what you're doing. A larger fuel pump is a must with forced induction
I need a content sensor because it literally won't run without it.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer Ah, the ECM requires it.. Makes sense. You're using standalone, right? Or is it the factory stuff? What year if its factory?
I only use factory stuff, idk what year it is, 03-05, too many junkyards, too many years gone now
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I know the feeling.. About ten years back while walking through my parts stored at my dad's farm, I stumbled over an engine block. I looked at it a little closer, and realized it was a 455. Apparently I had put it there 12 years before when I went back to the military and completely forgot I had it. I still don't remember exactly where it came from.
Right now I would have to go out and count the lumps in the snow to know how many vehicles are here, and I have an idea of whats in the trucks. Such is life in the UP where very rusty low mile trucks are dirt cheap.
Do you have members on your fb group with ls turbo swapped foxbodies? I need to find more info out on some swapped parts. Thanks
Probably, I know there's Foxes. It's 11,000 people though, I can't track them all lol
@@TheDrivewayEngineer wow, 11,000 strong 💪, had no idea
You need an intercooler and wastegate
No you don’t, but you should
Question, does the cheap inlet flange with the tiny hole supply sufficient oil?? I’ve read conflicting information. I want my turbo to live, installing mine currently. I have the Same setup about $1500.00. Already on flex with sensor.
The restriction on the inlet is intentional.
Ok, so more clarification. There are two flanges with two different size holes(.030,.060) The google search says no restriction on journal bearing turbos (drill it out). So did you just slap the flange on and run it? Is it still running today?
Get a tbss/nnbs intake. They're worth it. Look better and 90mm opening
Yeah, I'm not doing that.
What goods the bigger opening when most people just get an adapter to put the 78mm throttle body back on?
Do you know how if this manifold clears the AC compressor in the stock location?
My AC compressor is on this engine in the stock location
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I thought you removed it. Thanks bro.
My question limp mode on the drive by wire while in boost...I know this not a tune video..but seeing your are dbw..just asking..
That's not a question?
Is it faster to the moon or by bus?
How to get around it...
Holdner math is crank power on the dyno not tire hp
If i run e85 without intercooler? I would need 1/3 more fuel (pump and injector) what would minimum size
If you run E85 period you'll need more of it. Decapps and a Kemso are still more than enough
@@TheDrivewayEngineer thanks.... the lack of intercooler would be less felt with e85 wouldn't it? (Temp sould be kill my power as much
It's not really about power, it's about the cushion you have tuning.
So yes, E85 will help, you can be sloppier, or more aggressive with the tune than without.
The same goes for the intercooler
looks like the turbos are out of stock. Is there another you'd recommend?
GT45's are clogging up ebay every day lol
Please go a little more indepth about the maf delete, and ait modifications needed. Not much info, or videos about that out there.
I'll be doing that when the time comes of course
I don't know if I have asked here before but but has anyone tried one of the China sloppy stage 2 cam for like $100 is it stupid to risk it or what
People have, how would you know what you got?
What did you do on tuning?
Ran on a stock ECU and HP Tuners for years
I have Hurd of people porting the factory truck manifolds for turbo LS..for power gains
Waste of time
I always heard you had to gap the rings. Do you gap your rings? Or just send it?
I'm not gapping shit but the foo next to me
@@TheDrivewayEngineer 😂 this is the best comment I've ever seen. Well said
I gapped mine but ran over 600whp without gap on 93oct
How do you feel about running a carb on an LS? I love the LS engine, but I just can't seem to enjoy FI even tho it is amazing. Would you even slightly recommend converting to carb, or would you say to just suck it up and stick with FI.
Yeah..... my question too. Also this just in, from Ottawa. A burnout from the Freedom convoy. ruclips.net/video/5htgUrnEWGE/видео.html
Your going backwards with a carb…….stay with the fuel injecton that’s the main beauty behind the LS………..I don’t miss beating on my carburetor with a large crescent wrench to get the float’s unstuck or better yet being 1/2 hr late cause you flooded the engine on a cold winter morning……..no way I’m ever running a carburetor except for my lawnmower or Harley……..even my boat has a 8.1 vortec in it……carbs are bad, unless your strictly drag racing large N/A or nitrous motors
@@trentdawg2832 appreciate the opinion. Thanks for sharing.
@@gmw3083 awesome
@@sbfguy7793 Yeah. Who knew the revolution would begin in Canada. Turdo fled the capital. Here's a couple more short, general videos of what's going on.
ruclips.net/video/1hpBj396bNY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/4L-BTvuRJEE/видео.html
Do you need a new ecu or gauges, or efi?
I heard all the turbo setup is like 4000 bucks
All you really need is enough fuel pump and injector
Do you have to gap the rings?
No
You don’t have to but it would be safer
What is the most amount of boost that you have ever used without gapping the rings?
There's alot of guys putting down serious power with alot of boost and never messed with the bottom end.
15 psi or so, I'll use more, idc, another engine is 300 bucks away
@@TheDrivewayEngineer shoot hold my beer! 😂👍
@@masoncampos7043 I use 15 because that's what a GT45 makes on a 6.0
Would it be possible to make 500whp on pump gas?
Really easily
@@TheDrivewayEngineer thanks, Im wanting to turbo my 5.3 and you can't find e85 near me anywhere
I mean, if you make 480 you're not gonna scrap it lol.
It'll be fun either way
@@TheDrivewayEngineer of course not haha I love that truck
A gt45 has a bigger hot side am I wrong?
Bigger than what?
@@TheDrivewayEngineer bigger than a 78 75. I guess you can get 7875s with different hot sides. I'm told the gt45s have an 82 hot side. We're putting gt45 twins on a 6 liter, I don't know how that will work with the converter I'm using. I'm sure you know more about that than I do
How could I contact u for a turbo job??
what about ring gaps? i thought they were the actual engine destroyers?
What about them?
@@TheDrivewayEngineer well you don't mention them in the video, does it mean it's optional to gap them?
can you share the bin
What bin?
@@TheDrivewayEngineer bin file for the pcm it would be big help and thanks for ur videos
Anyone else running the Kemso fuel pump? Is it reliable
Mine has only lasted for 3 year snow, junk
gapped rings?
I don't gap shit.
That's why I didn't say shit about gapped rings
Hey what’s the guy fb name that sales the hot side? And that’s going to be a bad ass c10
Will Barnes
@@detroitamerson I looked him up but there’s a lot of will Barnes lol so I don’t know which one he really is
That's because he gets banned all the time
facebook.com/will.barnes.1428
@@punishingwithdabowtie9106 If the link below doesnt get you intouch with him let me know I think I have his # but dont want to post it here
I need an engineer!
Gen6 454 w/ 01-411-8 Xtreme Energy 212/218 what size turbo?
You're looking in the wrong place, I don't get all sciency about it, I just pick the cheapest one that fits.
@@TheDrivewayEngineer what fits a gt45?
@@UcantBeSerious03 any T4 flange
@@TheDrivewayEngineer I never did this before - so thank you
You're welcome.
Know that all that happens if you use the "wrong" turbo, is it makes all the power down low, and runs out up top, or, takes forever to spool
What’s your fb so I can join the group
Shave it
🤦♂️ i was doing high pitched i don't care at work yesterday
I effing HATE TURBOS !
or rather I LOVE RELIABILITTY so much i avoid them like the plague, especially homemade systems put together in a noobs garages, lol.
That being said I did buy a MB with supercharger which i like alot more than turbos cuz its factory tuned and installed and USUALLY more reliable than turbos.
THAT BEING SAID; the prices JR is quoting are almost too good to be true and tempting, ESPECIALLY when he said it might even fit under a gbody! that burns way too much gas anyways to ever be a daily driver?
Im tempted BUT is JUNIOR misleading us cuz hes not factoring in the cost of TUNING cuz HE already owns HPTuner?
Im just running factory PCm which i removed vatts and enabled electric fans for free myself.[PcmHammer
SO do I ASSUME i will NEED HPTuners if i spring for a turbo system?
My 5.3LS is stock other than cats being removed and a single 3" short exhaust
SO it could really use a turbo to wake it up and turn my open Gbody rearend into a 1tire-frier!
It won't make that much
Fucking "A"