@Prakyy yes finally a guy that understands that they don't give timely updates they are like Samsung from 5 years ago now Samsung is great at software updates
@Prakyy wait what do you mean used to get update? Because i am between buying the rog phone 5 pro or the 9 pro. I play games so naturally I would want the rog phone 5 because of gaming but i also head that the rog phones aren’t getting that big updates, that’s what is keeping me from buying the rog phone 5 and plus the fact that the oneplus 9 pro has a 360hz touch sensitive screen so i like the 9 pro better, what should i do? Which one should I purchase?
I’ve had almost every OnePlus from the OnePlus one and once the prices got over $600.00 they weren’t worth the money anymore. They have try to be Samsung and charge you for it. They really need to go back to their root. Flagship kill specs for a midrange price. If the OP9 pro was $599 or even $649.00 I would have placed the order already. But for for $1070.00 I can get an IPhone or S21 that has better support, build, screen, cameras and software. Remember who you are OnePlus.
@@zachfox1027 who decided that? You keep your expectations low, then something that would otherwise have actually matched them will now be a pleasant surprise- in other words, make you "happy"
@@Emobullymaguire Not even any replay value tbh. There are many games I'd gladly play over and over again, but I don't get that same feeling with CP2077 for some reason. Beating the game once was enough
@@techpassion4126 I didn’t even bother. I literally saw the performance on PS4 and got turned off immediately. I instead brought Batman: Arkham Knight and Marvel’s Spider-Man which are now my favourite games of all time.
They are destroying the competition by pricing higher than than competitors ! I think they misunderstand us. They thought we wanted higher price but we actually wanted higher quality device :'(
I might not exactly be right here due to limited exposure, but all this time I thought the Bang and Olufsen partnership was working out really well for HP. The speakers on my 7th gen HP Omen 15T are really good. It could be because of their size and overall hardware quality, but I was under the impression that a part of it had to do with Bang and Olufsen partnership. Compared to them, the speakers on my 9th gen Razer Blade 15 Base model sound like trash! But then again, this was the kind of impression it put on me because I only dealt with the Omen series. The Bang and Olufsen speakers on other HP laptops might be just as shit as that on the Razer Blade 15 for all I know.
@@fiercelypolygons3696 i own a blue hp pavilion with beats audio and the speakers sound terrible and if I plug headphones in it has a weird EQ that sounds horrible (even when eq is turned off) that I had to scout the internet for custom drivers that don't have the beats software built in
@@realaaqibarain I own a HP Spectre with Bang and Olufsen audio. The speakers are better than any other Windows PC I've used. Only just below the speakers of my 2020 MacBook.
But were they? Both sold like amazingly well, and without the hype they would never have gotten so big in the first place Sounds like the hype did the work intended, no? And it should, otherwise companies wouldn't keep doing it lol
@@anmol3457 Did people really expect the cameras to to be the best? OnePlus will always essentially have the same cameras as Oppo phones as long as they are under the BBK umbrella
@@randomcommenter6734 Same camera tech as Oppo though, so there was only ever going to be minimal differences between the cameras. How average the selfie camera proves this because they're the same as on the Oppo Find X3
The thing is ShortCircuit and MKBHD had entirely different opinions about the camera. Now D2D is in the game with yet another opinion! Whom should I trust?
It is SO hard to justify premium phones these days, when there is nothing in them that drastically improves real life use cases (in comparison to 200-300$-devices). I use my phone for everyday camera-snapshots, some youtube, discord, instagram, video chat, calls and messaging. My current Moto One Vision, although old, is perfectly suitable for those tasks. I do awesome photography with it, videos turn out really great as well (either 4K30fps or 1080p60fps). The premium ones really only offers slight improvements that doesn't make sense price-wise. With these powerful chips, manufacturers need to become serious in making the devices dockable "desktop computer replacements" and not just "commercial service providers" using Android. Once I can use my phone as a proper Linux computer. Then I am willing to pay 900$+ for a device. And no, Samsung DEX isn't good enough... it's just a desktop skin for android. It doesn't satisfy the productivity needs of a desktop user.
I have a op8 pro and i had to send it to op for some repairs. For the week I bought a 300 usd Samsung phone, and let me tell you the difference is huge.
So hard for YOU to justify , and it's easy to say modern flagship offer barely an upgrade over your phone when you dont actually own a new flagship. Saying the upgrades you'd get from a new flagship don't make sense for the money is just simply ignorance on your end. But that's fine you can deep living in denial
Making entire phones revolving around JUST the camera is over me... I'd buy a damn DSLR if I were crazy about photography.. I'd say the Pixel 4 is still better than OP9
@@VaunShiz I have plenty of friends with flagship phones. And I have tried tons of them. Their photos don't come out substantially better than mine (even in low light). And even if their phone responds milliseconds faster or it doesn't improve any of my above mentioned practical use-cases scenarios. I only feel like it offers a sense of luxury and fluidity without serving any real practical benefits. Sure if I was a heavy mobile gamer it would make sense with a better SoC. But I don't enjoy playing games on my phone. With this being said, I am a senior electric engineer and system developer specialized on user experience. I am a power user, not a yuppie. I think that is the biggest difference. I know what kind of performance levels, thermal designs, platform usibility works best for user needs. And people generally own phones that are underutilized most of their lifespan.
@@naitiksrivastava1045 Not nevessarily evolve. They use this strategy called predatory pricing which worked for Amazon and Uber. It's a temporary aggression.
It was more money all along just like every other for-profit company ever in the history. It's now that mask is slipping, people have hard time accepting that they were fooled all along.It's not the company that changed. They have reached their limits of manipulation.
@@Steel0079 people haven't been fooled all along, they got phones with great value. Only the ones who believe in hype and buy the new ones thinking they're getting the value of their older ones are being fooled.
@@vadirajjoshi4793 what's your point? If you understand my point. Then you'd know that it wasn't targeted at people like you. But here you're defending. Which makes me believe that you're one of the people that it targets. Also, when I'm saying what I'm saying, don't you think that I'm one of the people who prefers value instead of fanboyism? The irony that you don't realize that defending makes you one who i was talking about.
No other leading tech reviewer has talked about the skin tone. This video dissected the OnePlus 9 Pro camera systems in and out. Thumbs up, Dave for such an honest review!
Most other reviews just read out some stupid specs, take 3 pictures, hyping up this fast charging most people don't care about and call it a day anyway... there are really not that many real tech reviewers
One of the most honest reviewer....Nowadays everyone gets paid for saying good about products. Even some biggest trusted youtuber also lost their path & doing biased review. But Dave2D is different from others. Love you bro.God Bless You❤️
Not really. Some reviewers, like GSMArena, are harsher in their reviews. Even though most reviewers rely on corporate support, Dave is one of the nicer ones. He doesn't lie but he doesn't criticize as much as I'd like, either.
Nobody: Dave: "I spent the last COUPLE of weeks shooting this camera system" Also Dave: 'makes an entire video speculating about the Hasselblad camera system which he uploaded a week ago' Awesome video as always ;)
i actually never looked at any of the photos i took until a few days ago. It was like Christmas morning looking at all the photos. Except it was underwhelmling AF
@@kenbee1957 yeah😅 but anyone would know what he exactly means. 'Dont buy op9 pro because its too close to the competition price wise yet does not stand a chance against them in any way except charging speeds(bruh!)'
It doesn't hurt if your self-image isn't linked to what people think about some random product made by some random company for a limited amount of time. It only hurts because people delude themselves into giving meaning to things that are essentially fairly unimportant things in life.
@@Steel0079 well with that being said I did get hyped up to have landed back to ground after Dave's honest review and I m literally thinking about investing in nokia 1100 . Best in the world when it was here 😂 .
@@lordwiz6653 I want a 16:9 phones with 90 deg corners, with screens having no irregularities like holes or notches under 500 dollars. This long screens and notches has been such a useless trend, chasing Apple's stupidity.
@@Steel0079 the only reason I have not bought apple is becoz I m waiting for its notch to go away and it's seems like never gonna happen thing. Well speaking of bazzleless notchless holeless display they did innovate with pop up selfie camera and it did succeed somewhat,you can check them out.And Perhaps you gotta tell me as well if we can get something great at that price point .I m tired of waiting for launch events to be disheartened and wait for another one every year .
@@lordwiz6653 but the aspect ratio isn't 16:9. On older phones if you watch movies, there are no black bars. On the phones of today, you will get black bars on sides. This new trend of long phones is another marketing scam. To increase the number on the display size. While the actual usable area is still similar to 16:9 aspect ratio phones. I don't like cropping videos. I'm using a crappy phone right now. I'll use it for a while longer. I'm building a pc now. Waiting for GPU prices to go down.
Finally someone talking about the high price and over hyped camera partnership, and not like some one plus fan boy which all other reviewers are blown away with just the media kit they got
From a photographer's point of view, the neutral output color of the OP9 pro is really useful for post-producing. By having a subtle and realistic tone in the colors, the photo can be managed in a really good and handy way. Of course, this is a plus only for user like me whose are hobby photographer, for a normal user this might not be the best solution.
Hello from Toronto :) I'm a huge Oneplus fan but I totally agree with your review. and that's why I decided not to upgrade. will stick with the Oneplus 8 for now. Thanks for the great effort 👍
@@mystikkrap not really my OP7T is still running smoothly . Just want to buy one for my parents. So would have bought this and given 7t to them.that was my plan but idk now.disappointed with 9 pro in particular. Price too high not worth the buy. Suggest me something better will you ?
I am surprised that he got a review unit and yet his reviews do not work in the favor of the org. Usually companies like Samsung and Apple have an embargo period only after which the reviewers can discuss these things .
@@noventay4 I normally check out the specs in things like GSMArena. When I see a review, I want to know whats different, how much is the difference and is it worth the price. And yes, No 'influencer' junk. That is why I found this review awesome.
"this doesn't look very OnePlus to me, kinda Chinese generic looking smartphone" EXACTLY, what has happened to OnePlus? Especially their design has become really generic
@@RealLifeTech187 Really? It doesn't look like it from Dave's pic. If it just blurred the top and bottom the middle part wouldn't look miniaturized. I'm fine if it's purely software driven as long as it's not just the bokeh part.
I dont think you can get more honest review than this Always reviews how a normal person would think of everything and buy a phone even though he is a great tech youtuber. Big fan dave🔥🤟🖐️
How? They still have the Nord series for a great performer with a small price. And the roots they had were purely to enter the market in some way because it is hard to just throw a 1000 dollar phone on the market and expect people to just buy it without knowing who you are.
It compares to flag ship phones like the S21 ultra and iPhone 12 Pro Max and is about €300 to €400 cheaper where I live. Also, it includes a charger still. How is it not true to it's Roots and still a flagship killer. Prices are just crazy right now.... €899 for a flagship is still cheap where I live
@@Jaru-kun by roots OP (original poster) means that they marketed themselves as a flagship killer. they started cheap but now they're 969 for the OP9pro i mean yea unless you are a stan you know sully is right
ikr and these reviewers have reviewers guide, basically company paying them is all, in this whole video he is comparing this one plus 9 device with the older one one plus 8 ? I mean its a no brainer the new one is going to dethrone the older one, the whole reason why we have new gen of devices, in this whole review he is just trying to blind us, instead he should've compared it with its competitor's and gave us a clear idea. Just say its over priced.
Thanks. I'll stick with my 1+6. 3 years of usage and it still performs like a work horse. No performance degradation, regular Android updates. And nice camera with GCam.
I mean it does let me easily compare which tech youtuber I like more and have notifications for. Considering the product is the same, it's more about how the video is made.
Companies like Samsung and Apple certainly have an embargo period only after which the reviewers can discuss these things . So even I am surprised about this.
It will only bring bad reputation for them if they do that, at least they should be open to criticism with the amount of money they are charging for the phones and the hype created around it.
@@jayeshmv No they don't care about such things Geeky Ranjit again only few of Indian "Honest" reviewers is also banned form one plus and other brands as he gives his honest reviews and not like some Brands puppet.
There's a statement, if you don't have anything valuable and purposeful to say, you should say nothing at all. You're stating things as a fact, when it's only an opinion. Glad you aren't a reviewer Oh and while we're add it you should rename your channel "The Amateur Tester" cause that is a fact. You've had the acc for 5 years and tested nothing
@@chadman5088 Wow as if calling yourself Chad makes you one. Better call yourself Wimp. Also, I don't want to post youtube videos. It's simple. You seem to be a simp for oneplus.
@@vinayakamallyas4117 You do Realize that another comment if mine would show you that in my country the 9 Pro is still half the Price of the S21 Ultra. And I'm using the S21 Ultra + 12 Pro Max on a daily basis... Oh wait you didn't ask ø, because just like OP you live in your own fantasy world where you are always right... Now shoo cause you have nothing of value to add either. I'm blind? Take a look in the mirror.
@@chadman5088 lol if you have an s21 ultra and an iPhone 12 Pro max, then why do you defend the oneplus brand? Clearly, your "advice" differs from your actual purchase. If you love oneplus so much, why dont you have one? FYI, I can speak about oneplus going down as I actually OWN a Oneplus 6t and a galaxy s10 and I can see the quality going down. .. Less updates that are bug fests for the oneplus too when compared to the s10... So don't think that either Vinayaka Mallya or I are living in a "fantasy world" when you my friend are just lapping up all the marketing spiel created by Oneplus...
i doubt its honest, if it was honest why would he compare it with the older one plus device? its obvious the new one would be better, thats the whole point of having a new device, why not compare it to its top competitors?
Its great hearing about it but there was a glitch for a split second between at 5:49, maybe some rendering error, don't know why I caught it, thought you should know!
Me watching with my cheapo Mi10tPro .. always wanted to try 1+ but the price man .. i remember when 1+ is a "flagship killer" now turning to "flagship"
It's unfair because honestly, this phone has managed to be good enough to be among the "Big 3." The camera is more than good enough for those that aren't nit-picky about colors and slight details. It's a very solid camera for a mobile phone
@@cos3 These exact reviewers said the 8 pro was one of the best camera phones of last year and praised it for their cameras. 9 pro improves upon the 8 pro. So idk what their deal is..
@@scaramouche768 The mere fact that it is being meticulously tested against the NEW iPhone 12 Pro and Samsung Pro plus whatever, means that this phone's camera has earned a respectable position up there with those mentioned phones.
I don't know why but I felt there was some sense of sadness in Dave's voice and his expression and the last bit about supporting the channel really makes me wonder what's wrong
I really love Dave's style of reviewing the products. Its super informative, his takes are very objective and he doesn't shy away from criticising the product when needed. I din't lose my attention even for a second, enjoyed it from start to finish.
It's way too harsh to put it in his title "clickbait camera". People will interpret it as a bad camera. That's the equivalent of smearing feces all over their new phones, which are reasonably priced and cameras do make improvements with time. This is their first time partnering with Hasselblad, maybe they make better things in the future, but for someone who has over 3 mil. subscribers he shouldn't be making titles like that one. Will hurt One plus for sure. People will take "not as good as expected" in to "terrible camera".
@@yambo000 lol unless they didn't watch the video, idk who'd look at a title and take it as that. And at the end of the day it's his opinion on the camera, 3 million subscribers or not he can put any title he wants when reviewing something
@@yambo000 Imo the title makes so much sense. The Hasselblad branding has steal headline before the phone even launched, hence developed some kind of expectations among us to these phones. And when the phones finally reviewed, the camera ended up being good but not lives up to the extreme hype it generated before. My 2 cents
@@obidean3964 But how better are camera's of other brands that have cooperated with famous camera makers? Usually about the same experience, maybe a bit better. Oppo are just late to this game, but they are not significantly worse. There is a limit of what you can stick in to a phone and it's certainly not a full quality Hasselblad camera. With or without Hasselblad you can't just claim them to have a click bait camera. Because click bait means fraud, and it's not fraud. It might be underwhelming but not fraudulent. He rips on them but then jumps to praise Samsung. This guy is way too biased when it comes to phones.
Damn I was so inspired by the presentation that it hurts when I see things are not as good as promised OnePlus got really good in marketing I have to mention tho
Yeah, Dave is hugely underrated. He's not super handsome (doesn't really matter to me, as a straight guy, but it may to others), or massively funny (not insulting him), but his manner and knowledge make for perfect reviews. He's absolutely cut out for this.
I mean high Chance its gonna be like last year were the 8 Pro was good but not what people expected and 1 month after release first camera update rolled out which improved the camera system by a lot
If you're a OnePlus user. are you getting this?
No , the 8 pro is still a better deal than this and the 9 pro is overall a overhyped disappointment
Not a OnePlus user by ily Dave best tech RUclipsr
Nope
time to shit
Nope.
Once a wise man said, "They would look like clowns if this partnership does nothing"
OnePlus is now selling tickets to their Cirque du Soleil show
@Dave2D Gotta heart this my man.
...live long enough to see yourself become the villain
🤡
@@SHOman_86 If I'm getting a Oneplus right now, gonna go with the 8 pro :)
There is something depressing about this video..
Dave seems like a father who was disappointed by his son but still has to say good things about him..
my father when he talks about me
instead of comparing to the last gen one plus 8 he shouldve compared the device to the current gens.
@@xen0076 chutiya hai kya
@@xen0076 He did that as well. He compared it with the pixel, iPhone and S21
He didn't hold back at all though
The last time I was this early OnePlus phones were affordable
Funnie
Feels like ages ago. 😂
Good times
@Prakyy yes finally a guy that understands that they don't give timely updates they are like Samsung from 5 years ago now Samsung is great at software updates
@Prakyy wait what do you mean used to get update? Because i am between buying the rog phone 5 pro or the 9 pro. I play games so naturally I would want the rog phone 5 because of gaming but i also head that the rog phones aren’t getting that big updates, that’s what is keeping me from buying the rog phone 5 and plus the fact that the oneplus 9 pro has a 360hz touch sensitive screen so i like the 9 pro better, what should i do? Which one should I purchase?
I’ve had almost every OnePlus from the OnePlus one and once the prices got over $600.00 they weren’t worth the money anymore. They have try to be Samsung and charge you for it. They really need to go back to their root. Flagship kill specs for a midrange price. If the OP9 pro was $599 or even $649.00 I would have placed the order already. But for for $1070.00 I can get an IPhone or S21 that has better support, build, screen, cameras and software. Remember who you are OnePlus.
Perfectly said 👏🏽
Iphone doesnt have a good display, they have lcd panels ( idk abt now )
@@noahairmet9546 Wow, that last paragraph is one huge apple simpfest LMAO.
@@tusk6400 no full oled
@@tusk6400 Nope, whole line up is oled now
"keep your expectations low boy, and you'll never be disappointed"- Kratos
but you'll never be happy
@@zachfox1027 who decided that? You keep your expectations low, then something that would otherwise have actually matched them will now be a pleasant surprise- in other words, make you "happy"
@@zachfox1027 you’ll be happy more often actually
Kratos from God of war??👀
sticking to my oneplus8t
"Hype can be dangerous, you'll see in a second."
Oh I've seen enough with CP2077....
too soon 😭
8 years of nothing...
@@Raj_2904 that is what she said
@@Emobullymaguire Not even any replay value tbh. There are many games I'd gladly play over and over again, but I don't get that same feeling with CP2077 for some reason. Beating the game once was enough
@@techpassion4126 I didn’t even bother. I literally saw the performance on PS4 and got turned off immediately. I instead brought Batman: Arkham Knight and Marvel’s Spider-Man which are now my favourite games of all time.
970 USD for a OnePlus?
"You were supposed to destroy the Sith, not join them."
redmi and realme are the two budget/value flagship killers now.
SamsungiPhone(?t)Huawei
@@jayzee316 they too, will be expensive in a few years
They are destroying the competition by pricing higher than than competitors ! I think they misunderstand us. They thought we wanted higher price but we actually wanted higher quality device :'(
Time to switch to xiaomi
reminds me of HPs laptops bang and olufsen and beats by dre partnership
idk if beats sound is a selling point ;)
Yeah HTC also did a beats partnership
I own one with beats, it's pretty good.
Until I heard one from a newer Dell inspiron. That impressed me
I might not exactly be right here due to limited exposure, but all this time I thought the Bang and Olufsen partnership was working out really well for HP. The speakers on my 7th gen HP Omen 15T are really good. It could be because of their size and overall hardware quality, but I was under the impression that a part of it had to do with Bang and Olufsen partnership. Compared to them, the speakers on my 9th gen Razer Blade 15 Base model sound like trash! But then again, this was the kind of impression it put on me because I only dealt with the Omen series. The Bang and Olufsen speakers on other HP laptops might be just as shit as that on the Razer Blade 15 for all I know.
@@fiercelypolygons3696 i own a blue hp pavilion with beats audio and the speakers sound terrible and if I plug headphones in it has a weird EQ that sounds horrible (even when eq is turned off) that I had to scout the internet for custom drivers that don't have the beats software built in
@@realaaqibarain I own a HP Spectre with Bang and Olufsen audio. The speakers are better than any other Windows PC I've used. Only just below the speakers of my 2020 MacBook.
"Hype can be dangerous..."
No Man's Sky...
Cyberpunk...
Dave2D spitting truth, as usual.
But No Man's sky had a very good redemption.
Let's hope that similarly Cyberpunk will be better later down the road.🤞🏼
@@omkarkulkarni9020 speaking only about the issues hype creates. Redemption is another story.
@@ethangaines2658 Yeah, agreed.
But were they? Both sold like amazingly well, and without the hype they would never have gotten so big in the first place
Sounds like the hype did the work intended, no? And it should, otherwise companies wouldn't keep doing it lol
@@l1mbo69 or how about instead companies make products worthy of the hype instead? Just because it works, doesn't make it right.
This is what real tech journalism is all about. Even mainstream media people should watch and take notes. This is how it is done. Kudos!
I get it you r from india
Only if the mainstream media wasn't busy pumping out their propaganda and fake news
😂stfu
He’s been doing it like this from the beginning it’s why he blew up his reviews feel “real”
@@pulkitpandey2416 Yes. Don’t you agree ?
I love how Dave doesn't mince words. Straight out roasted Oneplus for hyping the Hasselblad partnership.
ehh. A cynical enthusiast would've said the same thing before the launch. It's typical 1+
@@anmol3457 Did people really expect the cameras to to be the best? OnePlus will always essentially have the same cameras as Oppo phones as long as they are under the BBK umbrella
@@franklingoodwin they had the hasselblad partnership, so we naturally thought it would be good
Is anyone surprised though? I'm not
@@randomcommenter6734 Same camera tech as Oppo though, so there was only ever going to be minimal differences between the cameras. How average the selfie camera proves this because they're the same as on the Oppo Find X3
“Corporate clickbait” - This needs to be an official term!
It already is, it`s called marketing ;)
@@afrog2666 lol
You are either unemployed or a genius my friend
Kinda looks like that $150 million was for a fancy logo slapped on the back of the phone 🤦♂️
They used to have McLaren as fancy logo. Just swapping McLaren to Hasselblad.
Hasselblad is not the company to do that easily though. Maybe in the next 3 years something will improve? Well have to see.
@@Jaru-kun Moto mod ahm ahm
The thing is ShortCircuit and MKBHD had entirely different opinions about the camera. Now D2D is in the game with yet another opinion! Whom should I trust?
May be Hassleblad could develop something in the mobile system in coming years. Or One Plus id really stupid.
thank you for your honesty
Only one that's honest
Notice how he didnt have obnoxious intro, begging for paetreon or fifty midroll ads in a ten minute video?
DID YOU NOTICE?!?!
@@creepycassette almost everyone noticed it years ago. He has always been a minimalist
best reviewer out there
@@robinsingh9102 could be referring to OPs own channel (I haven't watched it tho so idk)
I highly prefer more natural colors that the saturated shots that for me lose all character.
You should check the Vivo X60 Pro. Seems like a good phone.
@@joelconolly5574 nah lol
I always loved the pixel saturated and contrasty color temperature. Most people also prefer this type of colourgrading according to the MKBHD pool
More over you can edit the natural pics to (overly) saturated (mess) later
I like more saturated punchier colours on my photos
It is SO hard to justify premium phones these days, when there is nothing in them that drastically improves real life use cases (in comparison to 200-300$-devices). I use my phone for everyday camera-snapshots, some youtube, discord, instagram, video chat, calls and messaging. My current Moto One Vision, although old, is perfectly suitable for those tasks. I do awesome photography with it, videos turn out really great as well (either 4K30fps or 1080p60fps). The premium ones really only offers slight improvements that doesn't make sense price-wise. With these powerful chips, manufacturers need to become serious in making the devices dockable "desktop computer replacements" and not just "commercial service providers" using Android. Once I can use my phone as a proper Linux computer. Then I am willing to pay 900$+ for a device. And no, Samsung DEX isn't good enough... it's just a desktop skin for android. It doesn't satisfy the productivity needs of a desktop user.
I have a op8 pro and i had to send it to op for some repairs. For the week I bought a 300 usd Samsung phone, and let me tell you the difference is huge.
So hard for YOU to justify , and it's easy to say modern flagship offer barely an upgrade over your phone when you dont actually own a new flagship. Saying the upgrades you'd get from a new flagship don't make sense for the money is just simply ignorance on your end. But that's fine you can deep living in denial
People with money: There's only one reason. They can afford it.
Making entire phones revolving around JUST the camera is over me... I'd buy a damn DSLR if I were crazy about photography.. I'd say the Pixel 4 is still better than OP9
@@VaunShiz I have plenty of friends with flagship phones. And I have tried tons of them. Their photos don't come out substantially better than mine (even in low light). And even if their phone responds milliseconds faster or it doesn't improve any of my above mentioned practical use-cases scenarios. I only feel like it offers a sense of luxury and fluidity without serving any real practical benefits. Sure if I was a heavy mobile gamer it would make sense with a better SoC. But I don't enjoy playing games on my phone. With this being said, I am a senior electric engineer and system developer specialized on user experience. I am a power user, not a yuppie. I think that is the biggest difference. I know what kind of performance levels, thermal designs, platform usibility works best for user needs. And people generally own phones that are underutilized most of their lifespan.
From 'Flagship killer' to 'The Flagship'... We've come a long way ! And i already miss the flagship killer all i now see is pocket killer lol
Wallet killer
9r maybe?
Poco is the new flagship killing brand. Availability is the only problem.
@@838WE7O6A that's the point bro
People don't understand brands evolve they cannot be that value King forever
@@naitiksrivastava1045 Not nevessarily evolve. They use this strategy called predatory pricing which worked for Amazon and Uber. It's a temporary aggression.
In short, OnePlus has lost their modus operandi.
It was more money all along just like every other for-profit company ever in the history. It's now that mask is slipping, people have hard time accepting that they were fooled all along.It's not the company that changed. They have reached their limits of manipulation.
@@Steel0079 people haven't been fooled all along, they got phones with great value. Only the ones who believe in hype and buy the new ones thinking they're getting the value of their older ones are being fooled.
@@vadirajjoshi4793 what's your point? If you understand my point. Then you'd know that it wasn't targeted at people like you. But here you're defending. Which makes me believe that you're one of the people that it targets.
Also, when I'm saying what I'm saying, don't you think that I'm one of the people who prefers value instead of fanboyism? The irony that you don't realize that defending makes you one who i was talking about.
Dave is almost Italian the way he speaks with his hands.
Man, I will never get over Dave2D's minimal aesthetic and neutral color vibes. Awesome video btw!
Love frm India! 🇮🇳
Austin Evans intros: "Hey guys, this is Austin"
MKBH intros: Hey, what's up. MKBHD here.
Dave 2D intros: O K , A L R I G H T
I don't know anyone who watches Austin anymore. He is beyond cringe
@@drdoomskywalker1731 yea ikr
Even Arun😂
@@pranavb.pillai4747 a sub to the channel would be..... amazing.
@@drdoomskywalker1731 exactly... Cringe plus a lot of clickbaits
Super Honest. OneMinus Hype 9 PRO
One minuse 9 pro
OneMinus Hyped 9 Noob
Settled
B R U H
"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain". True indeed.
Gotta appreciate the cleanliness of the video Dave. I'm inspired by your calmness, clean distraction free no-nonsense review.
It's just awesome.
No other leading tech reviewer has talked about the skin tone. This video dissected the OnePlus 9 Pro camera systems in and out. Thumbs up, Dave for such an honest review!
Most other reviews just read out some stupid specs, take 3 pictures, hyping up this fast charging most people don't care about and call it a day anyway... there are really not that many real tech reviewers
TRUE...
#Dave2DSuperemacy
MKBHD talked about skin tone at length in his blind smartphone camera test for 2020.
The reason I always watch Dave... I just love how honest he is haha
But not against samsung or Google pixel and iPhone
@@johnsond3426 he was pretty critical in iPhone 12 review.
One plus's partnership with the hassleblad is like those clickbait every RUclipsrs put on their thumbnail
@Onouphrios LOL, they've been lying about their cameras since OnePlus 3.
Yeah, they tried to do something but ended up doing something different
@@daniesalex7073 No, they did what tried to do. They made gullible people think they'd produce something more ambitious, though.
@@Raison_d-etre yeah ,
there's an old video on youtube predicting this years ago, it's called "Enthusiast brands will let you down"
Tech Altar
I also remember seeing it
Oneplus gave us up, let us down, ran around and deserted us, made us cry, said goodbye, told a lie and hurt us :(
@@MrTinkerDoodle oh get out of here
@@MrTinkerDoodle is MrWhoseTheBoss getting to you?
5:49
2 extra frames of the birdies :D
Great vid as always!
Saw it as well! So weird!
Saw it too xD
_It's becoming a trend since _*_MKBHD_*_ did it._
"That ain't gonna happen. You won't" at the end is just the nicest touch to Dave Lee's videos.
One of the most honest reviewer....Nowadays everyone gets paid for saying good about products. Even some biggest trusted youtuber also lost their path & doing biased review. But Dave2D is different from others. Love you bro.God Bless You❤️
Not really. Some reviewers, like GSMArena, are harsher in their reviews. Even though most reviewers rely on corporate support, Dave is one of the nicer ones. He doesn't lie but he doesn't criticize as much as I'd like, either.
@@Raison_d-etre dave doesn't just bash something or praise it up and down
He points out its positives and negatives
Wasted 150 million for Hasselblad Name itself, that's it
how did you get that number?
rémY Oneplus said it... this partnership costed 150 million for Oneplus.
@@danielmartins4367 damn that sucks... extremely unworthy of that number.. just for software and a name.. yikes
@@remy7663 did you even watch the video?
@@user-se5xg3vz8p lol I read the comments while I'm a minute in.
Nobody:
Dave: "I spent the last COUPLE of weeks shooting this camera system"
Also Dave: 'makes an entire video speculating about the Hasselblad camera system which he uploaded a week ago'
Awesome video as always ;)
i actually never looked at any of the photos i took until a few days ago. It was like Christmas morning looking at all the photos. Except it was underwhelmling AF
@@Dave2D so just like Christmas underwhelming AF
@@Dave2D MrMobile straight up said dont buy onplus 9 pro and I think I agree
@@wittyusername1
He didn't "straight up" say that tho...
@@kenbee1957 yeah😅 but anyone would know what he exactly means. 'Dont buy op9 pro because its too close to the competition price wise yet does not stand a chance against them in any way except charging speeds(bruh!)'
Just love the review. So honest, so balanced
Absolutely love you do these things in what looks like a no cuts just straight up conversation. Great work as always!
I feel how hard it is for Dave to do this review. The truth hurts.
It doesn't hurt if your self-image isn't linked to what people think about some random product made by some random company for a limited amount of time. It only hurts because people delude themselves into giving meaning to things that are essentially fairly unimportant things in life.
@@Steel0079 well with that being said I did get hyped up to have landed back to ground after Dave's honest review and I m literally thinking about investing in nokia 1100 . Best in the world when it was here 😂 .
@@lordwiz6653 I want a 16:9 phones with 90 deg corners, with screens having no irregularities like holes or notches under 500 dollars. This long screens and notches has been such a useless trend, chasing Apple's stupidity.
@@Steel0079 the only reason I have not bought apple is becoz I m waiting for its notch to go away and it's seems like never gonna happen thing. Well speaking of bazzleless notchless holeless display they did innovate with pop up selfie camera and it did succeed somewhat,you can check them out.And Perhaps you gotta tell me as well if we can get something great at that price point .I m tired of waiting for launch events to be disheartened and wait for another one every year .
@@lordwiz6653 but the aspect ratio isn't 16:9. On older phones if you watch movies, there are no black bars. On the phones of today, you will get black bars on sides.
This new trend of long phones is another marketing scam. To increase the number on the display size. While the actual usable area is still similar to 16:9 aspect ratio phones. I don't like cropping videos.
I'm using a crappy phone right now. I'll use it for a while longer. I'm building a pc now. Waiting for GPU prices to go down.
Finally someone talking about the high price and over hyped camera partnership, and not like some one plus fan boy which all other reviewers are blown away with just the media kit they got
Yes but I hope Oneplus could fix the issues
the price was what disappointed me the most.
That this video didn't start with "is this camera hasselblad or hasselBAD" is very hasselSad.
From a photographer's point of view, the neutral output color of the OP9 pro is really useful for post-producing. By having a subtle and realistic tone in the colors, the photo can be managed in a really good and handy way. Of course, this is a plus only for user like me whose are hobby photographer, for a normal user this might not be the best solution.
Hello from Toronto :)
I'm a huge Oneplus fan but I totally agree with your review. and that's why I decided not to upgrade. will stick with the Oneplus 8 for now.
Thanks for the great effort 👍
I'm sticking with my oneplus 7 pro.
Me with my 7T❤️👍
I'm seeing a lot of posts like this out here. Do people seriously decide to upgrade their phones after 1-2 years??
@@mystikkrap not really my OP7T is still running smoothly . Just want to buy one for my parents. So would have bought this and given 7t to them.that was my plan but idk now.disappointed with 9 pro in particular. Price too high not worth the buy. Suggest me something better will you ?
@@boningousa4390 same sticky 7Pro here =)
its the depressing end of the video honesty for me 🤣
Dave's that teacher that would cut straight to the chase and tell you "look you got an F"
The cleanest and most concise reviews ever!
I am surprised that he got a review unit and yet his reviews do not work in the favor of the org. Usually companies like Samsung and Apple have an embargo period only after which the reviewers can discuss these things .
Welcome to dave2d lol
Well, the guy is true to his work!
Welcome to Dave 2D
@@B1it3krieg the embargo period ended yesterday. That's why all the reviews came out
@Dave2D huge appreciation for all your videos man, keep it up
Whenever Dave mentioned "hype" only one thing came to my mind again and again - Cyberpunk 2077.
That game was a failure
Games have a much longer life cycle. I would suggest waiting!
@@PepsyTV naw the game is amazing, story and experience is crazy good. best rpg story game ive ever played
@@PepsyTV the game is amazing to me, but bcs of how good witcher 3 was, people expected cyberpunk to be a lot better...
Cyberpunk sucked even of it wasn't a botched lanuch. The witcher is a much better game
You don't get such clean and honest reviews anywhere else. Absolutely love it !!
Really a few india s are way better than this aesthetic guy bruuuh
He didn't even mention the specs
@@noventay4 I normally check out the specs in things like GSMArena. When I see a review, I want to know whats different, how much is the difference and is it worth the price. And yes, No 'influencer' junk. That is why I found this review awesome.
@@noventay4 lol that's how Dave 2d does things specs overvalue a phone so Dave 2d doesn't say it
My guy u forgot mkbhd
I thought they will learn something from Oneplus 5 when they had partnered with DxO Mark and overhyped their fairly nice cameras.
You are hands down one of my top 3 people who i loook forward to see in my youTube timeline ...
"this doesn't look very OnePlus to me, kinda Chinese generic looking smartphone" EXACTLY, what has happened to OnePlus? Especially their design has become really generic
well, oneplus is a chinese company
copy of their Oppo counterpart.
Was waiting when you gonna drop the video and here we go .
This is why I always look for your reviews, Dave. They're honest, direct, and straight to the point.
I'll be sticking with my OP 7 Pro for life, still the best phone they've ever made, unless they release something similar, hopefully the 10
This comment did not age well...
I still have my old Oneplus 6t. Gonna turn it into a Ubuntu Touch OS phone maybe when I get my new phone.
The oneplus 8 Pro is in every way better than the 7 Pro
5:43 One plus executives after watching Dave's review!.
I love how this channel has the shortest reviews, yet the one it delivers the most helpful insights
It's got tilt shift?? Oh that's fun. I'm sure I'll use that a whole bunch on like one trip and then never again though, haha
Check MKBHDs Review. He says it's basically a cheap instagram filter.. sadly it's just part of the fake hype train 🙄
@@RealLifeTech187 Really? It doesn't look like it from Dave's pic. If it just blurred the top and bottom the middle part wouldn't look miniaturized. I'm fine if it's purely software driven as long as it's not just the bokeh part.
@@c433z Yep, it's just an overlay, you could do it on your phone right now for free using Snapseed
@@c433z yeah its like the instagram filter
I dont think you can get more honest review than this
Always reviews how a normal person would think of everything and buy a phone even though he is a great tech youtuber.
Big fan dave🔥🤟🖐️
Feels like they just partnered up with hasselblad to sell at a premium price and betray their original roots.
How? They still have the Nord series for a great performer with a small price. And the roots they had were purely to enter the market in some way because it is hard to just throw a 1000 dollar phone on the market and expect people to just buy it without knowing who you are.
@@Jaru-kun I'll just get xperia 5 mark ii hahahahaha
It compares to flag ship phones like the S21 ultra and iPhone 12 Pro Max and is about €300 to €400 cheaper where I live. Also, it includes a charger still.
How is it not true to it's Roots and still a flagship killer. Prices are just crazy right now.... €899 for a flagship is still cheap where I live
@@Jaru-kun by roots OP (original poster) means that they marketed themselves as a flagship killer. they started cheap but now they're 969 for the OP9pro i mean yea unless you are a stan you know sully is right
ikr and these reviewers have reviewers guide, basically company paying them is all, in this whole video he is comparing this one plus 9 device with the older one one plus 8 ? I mean its a no brainer the new one is going to dethrone the older one, the whole reason why we have new gen of devices, in this whole review he is just trying to blind us, instead he should've compared it with its competitor's and gave us a clear idea. Just say its over priced.
"That's gonna be a no from me dog." - Every reviewer today.
3:02 photos before and after being called a cutie by the cameraman
holy shit lmao
Lmao
Thanks. I'll stick with my 1+6. 3 years of usage and it still performs like a work horse. No performance degradation, regular Android updates. And nice camera with GCam.
*See's title*
"Oh no..."
Thank you Dave for always being an honest reviewer. Your channel is the only one I need. Wish you all the best.
I see it's that time of the week in which every tech reviewer uploads a video about the same product in the same hour lol
I mean that's how embargos work lol. Everyone wants to be first
And yet we still watch them all (at least the one we subs)
I mean it does let me easily compare which tech youtuber I like more and have notifications for. Considering the product is the same, it's more about how the video is made.
@@zakyhafizzany9631 Yep, we have a damn addiction haha
@@_Makanko_ Same
u deserve to get more subscriber.. very honest and straight to the point review
Dave I’m a big fan! Been here since day 1 🥺
Here BOI 🍪
Man u r my brother take a 🤗
And what does everyone think about the fingerprint reader being at the bottom of the screen which was obviously a stupid idea?
I dont understand why they would do that.
Dont fix it if it aint broken.
I'm not a tech enthusiast but I never miss Dave's videos just to see if he starts with "ok" or "alright" 🤣
I love the closing statement about supporting the channel
Jumped here the minute I saw mrboss come up on my recommendations, I think I'm addicted to your reviews at this point.. You did great 🥺😩♥️
The conclusion killed me. "That ain't gonna happen"😂😂😂😂😭😭
" I had expectations, i had hyped this thing up in my mind " - Dave Lee 2021
Thanks for continuing your honest reviews Dave2D. Much appreciated!
You are being so honest man, will the company send you a device again, for review 😐
Companies like Samsung and Apple certainly have an embargo period only after which the reviewers can discuss these things . So even I am surprised about this.
It will only bring bad reputation for them if they do that, at least they should be open to criticism with the amount of money they are charging for the phones and the hype created around it.
@@jayeshmv No they don't care about such things Geeky Ranjit again only few of Indian "Honest" reviewers is also banned form one plus and other brands as he gives his honest reviews and not like some Brands puppet.
I was reading comments on MKBHD just until you post yours
This phone essentially shows what oneplus has always wanted to become: mainstream, bland and absolutely overpriced for the kind of specs on offer.
There's a statement, if you don't have anything valuable and purposeful to say, you should say nothing at all.
You're stating things as a fact, when it's only an opinion. Glad you aren't a reviewer
Oh and while we're add it you should rename your channel "The Amateur Tester" cause that is a fact. You've had the acc for 5 years and tested nothing
@@chadman5088 Wow as if calling yourself Chad makes you one. Better call yourself Wimp.
Also, I don't want to post youtube videos. It's simple. You seem to be a simp for oneplus.
@@chadman5088 You are a OnePlus blind follower. Pro-Tester is correct! OnePlus has become too overpriced and is no more a flagship killer.
@@vinayakamallyas4117 You do Realize that another comment if mine would show you that in my country the 9 Pro is still half the Price of the S21 Ultra. And I'm using the S21 Ultra + 12 Pro Max on a daily basis... Oh wait you didn't ask ø, because just like OP you live in your own fantasy world where you are always right... Now shoo cause you have nothing of value to add either. I'm blind? Take a look in the mirror.
@@chadman5088 lol if you have an s21 ultra and an iPhone 12 Pro max, then why do you defend the oneplus brand? Clearly, your "advice" differs from your actual purchase. If you love oneplus so much, why dont you have one?
FYI, I can speak about oneplus going down as I actually OWN a Oneplus 6t and a galaxy s10 and I can see the quality going down. .. Less updates that are bug fests for the oneplus too when compared to the s10...
So don't think that either Vinayaka Mallya or I are living in a "fantasy world" when you my friend are just lapping up all the marketing spiel created by Oneplus...
I really love Dave's honestly in the videos he makes, true reviewer
You could buy 3 One Plus Ones when they came out for this price, and have $70 to spend on nice wired headphones.
Good times
The outro was so different. Didn't see that coming, but for some reason, I loved it.
This is a honest review that I haven't seen on RUclips for such a while. Keep it up Dave!
i doubt its honest, if it was honest why would he compare it with the older one plus device? its obvious the new one would be better, thats the whole point of having a new device, why not compare it to its top competitors?
@@xen0076 he already did bro
Its great hearing about it but there was a glitch for a split second between at 5:49, maybe some rendering error, don't know why I caught it, thought you should know!
If you set to 0.25 speed and pause on the weird frame you see its a random photo that he must have accidentally put on the timeline.
@@itsnerfornothing7554 Yup, he should have put some Easter eggs for upcoming videos of his😂😂😂
MUCH respect for the honest review dave!
I like how Dave crushed my dreams at 11:51 😂😂 Thanks Dave. Jk
In Dave we trust
😂😂 The title killed me thou
I literally went down smile😟 with dry sorrow when dave had to ask for likes! Geez, get this guy a big thumbs up, please.
Me watching with my cheapo Mi10tPro .. always wanted to try 1+ but the price man .. i remember when 1+ is a "flagship killer" now turning to "flagship"
i like how he acted in lew's vid that he didn't even knew about it
they are always good artists.
No wonder he was unmotivated, even i expected it to be a huge step up, i guess it is what it is 🌚
i am here 1st time on ur channel and you put everything properly in words and i was like this is what i was feeling since the launch GJ man!
My gosh this is one of the most brutal tech reviews I've ever watched
It's unfair because honestly, this phone has managed to be good enough to be among the "Big 3." The camera is more than good enough for those that aren't nit-picky about colors and slight details. It's a very solid camera for a mobile phone
@@cos3 These exact reviewers said the 8 pro was one of the best camera phones of last year and praised it for their cameras. 9 pro improves upon the 8 pro. So idk what their deal is..
@@scaramouche768 The mere fact that it is being meticulously tested against the NEW iPhone 12 Pro and Samsung Pro plus whatever, means that this phone's camera has earned a respectable position up there with those mentioned phones.
IKR? yea it was honest but it was slightly unfair.....as a whole package i feel OP9 Pro is above S21 Ultra
@@cos3 well the phone costs as much so why would you compare it with anything else lol. It ain’t a mid ranger anymore
5:49
@Dave, was that glitch to pokemon toys image a bug or a feature?
Haha! I seen it too, so I went frame by frame to see the picture.
I don't know why but I felt there was some sense of sadness in Dave's voice and his expression and the last bit about supporting the channel really makes me wonder what's wrong
yeah man me too
He is a OnePlus fan and OnePlus is going downhill that's why he's a bit sad
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Thanks for the honest review. My hope is that with updates Oneplus will be able to do more with Hasselblad collaboration.
I really love Dave's style of reviewing the products. Its super informative, his takes are very objective and he doesn't shy away from criticising the product when needed. I din't lose my attention even for a second, enjoyed it from start to finish.
it is actually putting up a fight against the other flagships, i think it has the best ultrawide photos and the best lowlight photos.
You got the point about the camera, wish too much... Lol
It's way too harsh to put it in his title "clickbait camera". People will interpret it as a bad camera. That's the equivalent of smearing feces all over their new phones, which are reasonably priced and cameras do make improvements with time. This is their first time partnering with Hasselblad, maybe they make better things in the future, but for someone who has over 3 mil. subscribers he shouldn't be making titles like that one. Will hurt One plus for sure. People will take "not as good as expected" in to "terrible camera".
@@yambo000 lol unless they didn't watch the video, idk who'd look at a title and take it as that. And at the end of the day it's his opinion on the camera, 3 million subscribers or not he can put any title he wants when reviewing something
@@yambo000 Imo the title makes so much sense. The Hasselblad branding has steal headline before the phone even launched, hence developed some kind of expectations among us to these phones. And when the phones finally reviewed, the camera ended up being good but not lives up to the extreme hype it generated before. My 2 cents
@@private679r.i.c.o4 First impressions matter. People will take it to mean as if it's a sticker camera.
@@obidean3964 But how better are camera's of other brands that have cooperated with famous camera makers? Usually about the same experience, maybe a bit better. Oppo are just late to this game, but they are not significantly worse. There is a limit of what you can stick in to a phone and it's certainly not a full quality Hasselblad camera. With or without Hasselblad you can't just claim them to have a click bait camera. Because click bait means fraud, and it's not fraud. It might be underwhelming but not fraudulent. He rips on them but then jumps to praise Samsung. This guy is way too biased when it comes to phones.
Great and honest review. I like how calm you talk and explain and don't scream at me like all the other reviewers!
Damn I was so inspired by the presentation that it hurts when I see things are not as good as promised
OnePlus got really good in marketing I have to mention tho
Was waiting for Dave to say,"I told you so"
Such a straightforward video with no drama at all! Liked it
Yeah, Dave is hugely underrated. He's not super handsome (doesn't really matter to me, as a straight guy, but it may to others), or massively funny (not insulting him), but his manner and knowledge make for perfect reviews. He's absolutely cut out for this.
I mean high Chance its gonna be like last year were the 8 Pro was good but not what people expected and 1 month after release first camera update rolled out which improved the camera system by a lot
Dave's video reviews are as clean/concise as his thumbnails. 💪🏻