They used to have OIS on all op devices, this is not an excuse, One Plus is starting to copy Samsung's Note line up scheme, a cheaper model that exists to make the flagship look like a great sale, honestly I'm no longer interested in one plus shenanigans, Xiaomi has me more interested
First please stop the multiple launches in an year!!! I guys who bought the OnePlus 8t would be feeling so sad 😂 Yeah OnePlus ditches such essential features, I mean who the hell in today's world use a monochrome camera for photography, it's achievable using a simple filter. Please throw that shit away.. Prices have gone up, definitely xaomi is catching up and even Samsung is catching up with their exynos and the software support. And software updates, let's don't even talk about that for the previous OnePlus devices.😂 I had so many expectations for OnePlus as a user but it's getting smaller and smaller after every launch.
Um, what? What is that even supposed to mean? How is LG a 'hero'? Their phones were some of the worst on the market, which is why they shut down their market segment. And what does OnePlus turning into a 'villain' even supposed to imply? Like, did one of their employees kidnap your dad or something?
@@Tom_Stevens617 Even though LG was lacking in the aesthetic department, they were the one to experiment new things. We can thank them for : * Ultra wide camera * For keeping the headphone jack, they did this till the very end. Etc etc Whereas Oneplus (who claims they listen to the community) : * Increasing prices. * Headphone jack removal. * Using 2mp useless cameras. And many more...
LG ain't no hero. They were a pioneer in the start of the smartphone industry and sure they tried new things, but their phones always had big faults, especially towards their end. Laggy software, average cameras, only decent displays, etc...Samsung tried new things too (they have a phone with a stylus in it and a phone that fucking folds in half) and they're literally synonymous with android. Non tech nerds will literally call an android phone a Samsung even though it's not a Samsung phone.
What I love about Dave-- He gets these review units from Oneplus, but doesn't shy away from boldly pointing out their shortcomings. Best reviewer on RUclips.
The feedback he provides notably about photography is better than what MKBHD does. Maybe the quality of the realisation is a bit lower but way more interesting for a potential customer
@@Mubashir_AK He's certainly the most critical, which immediately makes him my favourite because if all phones are "good", what's the big difference. If I was a famous youtuber, I'd have a strict grading system that would actually allow consumers to differentiate between the decent, the good, the great, and the best.
Yeah, and what's even crazier is Dave's passive aggressiveness is justified, I mean when you're paying 750 bucks for a phone, like having a plastic frame, no ois, genuinely is disgusting
@@harshivpatel6238 Yeah they've gone downhill ever since Carl Pei left. Didn't expect it to be this bad tho. Although I feel like Samsung has improved a lot lately. From their well appointed product lineup this year to the improved software experience and support. Both OnePlus and Samsung progressed, only the former in backward direction lmao.
@@anandpushkar7510 yeh, right now isn't a good time to buy a new phone I guess. I wouldn't mind paying more for a properly specc-ed phone that isn't obviously overpriced, sadly only some OEMs do that only for their flagships, most skimp a feature or two. Have to literally hunt for a phone with specs that I need.
@@harshivpatel6238 umm samsung is not shit, especially their current software skin is actually pretty and smooth - I have a galaxy s10 and it still feels like new
Because ppl in india Dont have wireless chargers? and 5g bands can be pushed through OTA updates. Its not a hardware issue in case u don't know. They are waiting for govt to decide which 5g bands will arrive in india
The closet thing to flagship killer today is the poco F series they just launched F3 with flagship processor, amoled high refresh rate screen and stuff like that, pretty cool.
I own a OP9 and I don't understand the polemic over the lack of the OIS, simply because the EIS does a pretty good job, videos on this phone are way more stabilized than many other phones with OIS that I've tried/had. There are bunches of comparison videos between the 9 and the 9 Pro where video stabilization is nearly the same, if you guys are all film directors having to shoot ultra stabilized cinematic videos I think you would need something more than a smartphone. I'd focus more on the fact that for the very first time after the launch of the 7 series the base model has pretty much the same features and nearly the same camera quality of the Pro, at a cheaper price, but I guess people need crusades no matter what.
Nice to see that he is pointing that out and doesn‘t fear to speak out on the missing OIS in a freaking High end smartphone ... especially when it was there in the models before that...
There is nothing to fear. It's complete scam. Plastic frame, no OIS, $730. I bet many people fell for that trap and will uprage their previous OnePlus not knowing that new model doesn't have OIS.
@@Tom_Stevens617 they started out as flagship killer , offering the same performance and features in their phones when compared to phones that are double the price . So it was a brand that wasn't greedy and had a great user relationship while the other brands were tagged as greedy amd other stuff . Dave was one of the fanboys of One plus . But its quite ironic that today he said that this phone might be the most expensive phone without ois feature which just shows how changed they have become . It wasn't like they couldn't have managed to fit the ois but they didn't so that people could have preferred the pro version which just shows how greedy they have become .
@@bullykojima3232 Um, you mean they started out as makeshift wannabe flagship 'killers' to a complete flagship with the full package and no compromises. And no, they did not have the same features as phones which were double the price. They had significantly worse cameras, lacked water and dust resistance, and had no wireless charging. And I don't even understand what you mean when you say they're 'greedy' now. OnePlus is a business organization, not an NGO. Profits were, are, and will always be top priority. There's nothing wrong with that and nothing to do with greed. That's what a business is supposed to do. Show profits to shareholders, otherwise the investments may cease to exist. OIS was a cost-cutting feature to lower the price of the OnePlus 9 which some people don't even know the expansion of. This in no way pushes people towards the 9 Pro. People who were going to buy the 9 Pro are still buying the 9 Pro and people who were going to buy the 9 are still buying the 9, because OIS is a relatively unnecessary feature.
@@Tom_Stevens617 first of all what is the meaning of flagship killer ? It means that it has comparable performance . Even a dumb guy would know that oneplus always lacked those features in the starting when they were being recognized as a brand so i find it laughable that you think anyone wouldn't know that they lacked those features in the start . I myself use a oneplus 7 pro and its fine except the camera . Now your other argument was they are an organization looking for profit , and i just laughed at your comment cause it isn't like i am asking them to be the best in the price range . Optical image stabilization is a standard at such price range and it bothers me and many other smartphone enthusiasts so that argument also falls short of yours . So whats the catch ? Its still a great phone except the camera and i wouldn't mind spending more on a better phone cause i use a flagship for more than 2 years so i wouldn't mind spending 200-300 bucks on a complete package .
THANK YOU for mentioning OIS. Seeing other big tech reviewer ignore that omission blew my mind. It's so important; how did they miss something so obvious.
@@userre85 commercial 5g will be available in India in mid 2022. As for wireless charging, Indians do use it. You definitely don't know a thing or two about India.
@@userre85 so you speak for all Indians? 5G is fine but are you sure about wireless charging? "Nobody" is a strong word. Even automobiles have wireless charging pad feature available in them nowadays..
This was the first time I couldn't believe Dave. I actually went and checked the specs to be sure that 9 does not have OIS!! I mean even Nord, which Dave referenced in the video, has OIS!!
Yeah the removal of OIS is super weird, especially considering that the Nord 2 have OIS. I was just as surprised when Xiaomi remove it from the 11T series. By the way Samsung entry level phones from 2021 like the A22 have OIS 🤯.
@@wheezel55 Yep. No reason to go for oneplus right now with so many competitive phones. In a couple of months it'll probably be on sale for half the price tho (like the 8T) so maybe then
Dave, you mentioned 1+ has good software. Since the system upgrade to Android 11, my 7tpro keeps crashing with frozen screen and drops out of internet connection. With your reviews on the 9s I think it's time to explore my options from the land of the rising sun. Thanks Dave👍
@@Ayurachi from what I heard, the partnership with Hasselblad is for 3 years, and now they have not developed anything on the hardware front, just given "tips to improve". So, basically it's a farce and a marketing gimmick with zero worth.
When I switched from the Xiaomi Mi9T I had 2 options, Google Pixel or OnePlus, because I wanted a stock Android experience. But seeing more and more people complain about the slow software updates and the removal of features I decided on a Pixel phone. Weirdly enough, Samsung is now a good choice for those that are concerned about software support.
Software support has been so freaking bad with OnePlus phones lately that I can't recommend them anymore even though I've been using OnePlus phones since the launch of the OnePlus One. I can't be bothered to buy a phone every year to have the latest Android version.
Oneplus r trying to become the apple of the bbk trio!! I also m the same here but enough is enough!! They r just trying to milk money at this point. Their aftersales support is worse among brand!! Samsung also focuses on profit but they care bout their fans.. they always try to fix it. M and 8pro owner but goota say bye and it's my last device. One UI is just better in my opinion or get the next pixel at that price point.
I must be blind but i literally have never noticed an actual difference in camera quality in just about any phone i've used for the last 5 years. I just don't care any more. They are all plenty good enough to take random shots of my dogs. I feel like this might be one of those things where content creators think it's important to everyone because it's important to them.
Had them both, and I feel better having the 9 over the Pro. The OIS never became a problem for me. The battery is better on the 9. The size is perfect, and I'm a big guy. Camera does what I need it to do 100% of the time, and I'm coming from a 11 Pro Max. Yeah, there's better cameras, but for the combo of what's offered, and I'm the average user, this is the best phone at this price!
Employee 1: We've partnered with Hasselblad for OnePlus 9 Pro, but there's no much improvement. What should we do? Employee 2: Just remove OIS on regular OnePlus 9 Employee 1: Good idea!
@weinerschnitzelboy are you sure? I remember an old Google Pixel ad saying "We don't offer more features for a bigger phone" which was taking a direct hit at Apple.
@weinerschnitzelboy I mean....the Pro has a smaller battery then the Max, and doesn't have sensor- shift. The mini has a smaller battery, and 12watt magsafe charging, a smaller display. The gap between the 12 generation seems like more then the gap between the 11 and 13 generation
I've bought the OP 8T from amazon, as it was 100 euro off on sale, don't regret it at all, much better value then OP9, and been using GCam, and can say photos are quite good, am happy with it
Hi @Dave2D - just wanted to say thanks. I had the OnePlus 9 on preorder, and I cancelled it after watching this video. I'm 100% ok with them keeping better features for the Pro model, I don't mind, but intentionally castrating the 9 just to give the Pro some weird edge? Nope, not ok, you won't get my money today OnePlus. Ordered an S21 instead, your review of it seemed a lot more positive.
For one second I thought that Dave was playing StarCraft 2 on the phone... that would be nice! of course, with a keyboard and mouse + dex + a big screen would be totally awesome XD
I'm using OnePlus 9, sincerely everything works great, screen 120hz refresh rate, dual stereo speaker sounds great, 888 chip run blazing fast, charging damn fast along the main camera without OIS worst than 8T, and battery drain slightly faster.
Agreed with your points made here. I planned and saved up to finally upgrade my OnePlus 7 Pro because they were supposed to have fixed the accidental touch issue which I've come to loathe in my 7 Pro to the 9 but because of these moves, I can't part with my savings to get it. I won't do it to myself. Thanks for the video.
I'm still on my OP8T and the camera is so trash that I hate using it. Autofocus is a 40% hit chance for me. Honestly. I tap to focus and this piece of crap can't do it 6/10 times... Its horrible
I thought this when Carl left that OnePlus would fall And it has begun I am a huge fan or a fanboy But this time it feels sad from inside Miss u Carl Waiting for NOTHING phones now OnePlus needs a miracle now to come back
Such an honest review must watch for anyone who considers 9 over 9 Pro due to budget constraints. Every year OnePlus disappoints one way or the another, Samsung in India is sold with Exynos instead of Snapdragon. Only iPhone remains the best option, but it is the costliest and sold at a higher price compared to other regions such as the US for instance.
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The removal of OIS really hurts the camera on the OP9... WTF ARE THEY DOING.
Also, I had a brain fart. Loki's on Disney+ not Netflix.
😂😂😂
I also don't like that the fact they removed OIS🤦
Lmao
BURN🔥🔥
Why did you take so long to comment on your own video
It's not just so that 9pro to look good in comparison. Also they can add ois and introduce a new colour scheme and call it OnePlus 9T
They used to have OIS on all op devices, this is not an excuse, One Plus is starting to copy Samsung's Note line up scheme, a cheaper model that exists to make the flagship look like a great sale, honestly I'm no longer interested in one plus shenanigans, Xiaomi has me more interested
@@ridakesserwan8712 Xiaomi is killing it while Oneplus is killing itself.
I think oneplus 9r will get ur list checked! It's just 8t in new shapes and only for India
Im also surprised,even my Nord has ois
First please stop the multiple launches in an year!!! I guys who bought the OnePlus 8t would be feeling so sad 😂 Yeah OnePlus ditches such essential features, I mean who the hell in today's world use a monochrome camera for photography, it's achievable using a simple filter. Please throw that shit away.. Prices have gone up, definitely xaomi is catching up and even Samsung is catching up with their exynos and the software support. And software updates, let's don't even talk about that for the previous OnePlus devices.😂 I had so many expectations for OnePlus as a user but it's getting smaller and smaller after every launch.
Samsung: Nerfed the base Note 20 to make the Note 20 Ultra look much better
OnePlus: "Write that down."
I believe the only precendent in history was Mi 9 with fake OIS.
Damn!!!! Boiiii
@@antonywhatever572 at least mi 9 is cheaper
So sad that it's true :(
BRUH
LG died a hero (RIP)
Whereas OnePlus is becoming the villain.
Um, what? What is that even supposed to mean? How is LG a 'hero'? Their phones were some of the worst on the market, which is why they shut down their market segment. And what does OnePlus turning into a 'villain' even supposed to imply? Like, did one of their employees kidnap your dad or something?
@@Tom_Stevens617 Even though LG was lacking in the aesthetic department, they were the one to experiment new things.
We can thank them for :
* Ultra wide camera
* For keeping the headphone jack, they did this till the very end.
Etc etc
Whereas Oneplus (who claims they listen to the community) :
* Increasing prices.
* Headphone jack removal.
* Using 2mp useless cameras.
And many more...
@@Tom_Stevens617 Bro LG is the reason most of the smartphones still exists today
@@Tom_Stevens617 LG invented ultrawide camera, telephoto camera, and many other cool stuffs that changed smartphones forever
LG ain't no hero. They were a pioneer in the start of the smartphone industry and sure they tried new things, but their phones always had big faults, especially towards their end. Laggy software, average cameras, only decent displays, etc...Samsung tried new things too (they have a phone with a stylus in it and a phone that fucking folds in half) and they're literally synonymous with android. Non tech nerds will literally call an android phone a Samsung even though it's not a Samsung phone.
What I love about Dave--
He gets these review units from Oneplus, but doesn't shy away from boldly pointing out their shortcomings.
Best reviewer on RUclips.
The feedback he provides notably about photography is better than what MKBHD does. Maybe the quality of the realisation is a bit lower but way more interesting for a potential customer
He did. Dont lie. Almost every other phone is better at that price. Dave is not mkbhd I can see why. One plus must have paid good
MrMobile is the best reviewer on RUclips, but ok.
@@Mubashir_AK I think it’s subjective, even though I agree
@@Mubashir_AK He's certainly the most critical, which immediately makes him my favourite because if all phones are "good", what's the big difference. If I was a famous youtuber, I'd have a strict grading system that would actually allow consumers to differentiate between the decent, the good, the great, and the best.
Never seen Dave so angry and pissed of as in this video, damn you oneplus, you made Dave ANGRY!
Yeah, and what's even crazier is Dave's passive aggressiveness is justified, I mean when you're paying 750 bucks for a phone, like having a plastic frame, no ois, genuinely is disgusting
Of course we are all rooting for OnePlus to succeed. But they are turning too corporate now, it sucks. Carl Pei leaving really shows.
What if he's angry or not who cares.
He should have been more aggressive. Something along the lines of "OnePlus, this was a scumbag move" would have been more appropriate.
@@abdullahhash1r it's a bs phone in my opinion. Because it's easy to see what their motivation was, I'm staying away from OnePlus this year.
"Loki - Netflix"
Disney has a bone to pick with you Dave
i was really confused
@@marcusdouge8083 Same here I had to pause and google immediately
@@Tech95327 same
@@Tech95327 Holy shit I did the same
@@marcusdouge8083 what is he talking about? fill me in.
"This isn't like their super cheap Nord lineup"
Ironically, the Nord DOES have OIS while this $730 phone doesn't lmao.
Oneplus turning into Stink-Plus just like Samsung -> Samstink
@@harshivpatel6238 is there any good phone manufacturer who isn't dishonest and looting customers, guess I will keep my S10+ for a while
@@harshivpatel6238 Yeah they've gone downhill ever since Carl Pei left. Didn't expect it to be this bad tho. Although I feel like Samsung has improved a lot lately. From their well appointed product lineup this year to the improved software experience and support. Both OnePlus and Samsung progressed, only the former in backward direction lmao.
@@anandpushkar7510 yeh, right now isn't a good time to buy a new phone I guess.
I wouldn't mind paying more for a properly specc-ed phone that isn't obviously overpriced, sadly only some OEMs do that only for their flagships, most skimp a feature or two.
Have to literally hunt for a phone with specs that I need.
@@harshivpatel6238 umm samsung is not shit, especially their current software skin is actually pretty and smooth - I have a galaxy s10 and it still feels like new
Thank you! Finally, someone talked about the missing OIS. This is just insane, OP used to include OIS when they were selling phones for $400!!!
Another amazing eye opener for the Indian viewers: The Indian variant doesn't even have wireless charging, or as many 5g bands. :3
Yes, and i hear it has a plastic frame.
Why?
Geekyranjit channel also told tha Same thing.
Because ppl in india Dont have wireless chargers? and 5g bands can be pushed through OTA updates. Its not a hardware issue in case u don't know. They are waiting for govt to decide which 5g bands will arrive in india
and a plastic frame,thats just unacceptable
I still remember the days of the $350 flagship killers
flagships have gotten more expensive, you're not gonna get a 888 in a $350 phone
Yep good days
Still using OnePlus 6 and still love it
The closet thing to flagship killer today is the poco F series they just launched F3 with flagship processor, amoled high refresh rate screen and stuff like that, pretty cool.
People making videos of over 10-15 mins still can't be efficient like Dave. His 6-9 min videos are more than enough.
Takeaway for 1+ : "You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
'LG just died a hero'
@@namcicle2309 it did.
While Stink-Plus is definitely going the other way.
the natural progression as companies grow
also youtube channels
except this one
Copied from mkbhd
I was gonna comment the same thing. Well, that's how it goes, the bigger the company (society) grows, the more corrupted it becomes.
I own a OP9 and I don't understand the polemic over the lack of the OIS, simply because the EIS does a pretty good job, videos on this phone are way more stabilized than many other phones with OIS that I've tried/had.
There are bunches of comparison videos between the 9 and the 9 Pro where video stabilization is nearly the same, if you guys are all film directors having to shoot ultra stabilized cinematic videos I think you would need something more than a smartphone.
I'd focus more on the fact that for the very first time after the launch of the 7 series the base model has pretty much the same features and nearly the same camera quality of the Pro, at a cheaper price, but I guess people need crusades no matter what.
Oneplus under Carl Pei: 🦁 (lion)
Oneplus under Peat Lau: 🐈 (cat)
From "Something is Missing" to "Agressive Upselling :") " to "The Crippled Camera" lolol
That's what I was also thinking 😂
Probably the video was not performing well?
Better change it to "1 inch of Pure Power"
When youtube doesn't have native title CTR A/B testing capabilities...
Nice to see that he is pointing that out and doesn‘t fear to speak out on the missing OIS in a freaking High end smartphone ... especially when it was there in the models before that...
You know what that means....#dealbraker #donotbuy
There is nothing to fear. It's complete scam. Plastic frame, no OIS, $730. I bet many people fell for that trap and will uprage their previous OnePlus not knowing that new model doesn't have OIS.
@@antonywhatever572 Do you recommend OP8 pro instead of OP 9, cuz both cost almost the same now.
@lorena perez optical image stabilization
@@juliosoledispa5340 OP8 for sure.
Every time I put a bet with my son on how will Dave start a video, either Okay or Alright! He won tonight!
lol that is adorable
I want your comment on every video you see now yo this is adorable
Massive respect. I aspire to be like this when I'm a dad myself 😂
I lose...i said alright
Lol
Can someone please tell me what is the name of the game?
OnePlus is straight out of a movie - that twist in the plot where you learn that the hero is actually the villain.
What is that even supposed to mean?
@@Tom_Stevens617 they started out as flagship killer , offering the same performance and features in their phones when compared to phones that are double the price . So it was a brand that wasn't greedy and had a great user relationship while the other brands were tagged as greedy amd other stuff . Dave was one of the fanboys of One plus .
But its quite ironic that today he said that this phone might be the most expensive phone without ois feature which just shows how changed they have become . It wasn't like they couldn't have managed to fit the ois but they didn't so that people could have preferred the pro version which just shows how greedy they have become .
@@bullykojima3232 Um, you mean they started out as makeshift wannabe flagship 'killers' to a complete flagship with the full package and no compromises. And no, they did not have the same features as phones which were double the price.
They had significantly worse cameras, lacked water and dust resistance, and had no wireless charging. And I don't even understand what you mean when you say they're 'greedy' now.
OnePlus is a business organization, not an NGO. Profits were, are, and will always be top priority. There's nothing wrong with that and nothing to do with greed.
That's what a business is supposed to do. Show profits to shareholders, otherwise the investments may cease to exist.
OIS was a cost-cutting feature to lower the price of the OnePlus 9 which some people don't even know the expansion of. This in no way pushes people towards the 9 Pro.
People who were going to buy the 9 Pro are still buying the 9 Pro and people who were going to buy the 9 are still buying the 9, because OIS is a relatively unnecessary feature.
@@Tom_Stevens617 first of all what is the meaning of flagship killer ? It means that it has comparable performance . Even a dumb guy would know that oneplus always lacked those features in the starting when they were being recognized as a brand so i find it laughable that you think anyone wouldn't know that they lacked those features in the start . I myself use a oneplus 7 pro and its fine except the camera .
Now your other argument was they are an organization looking for profit , and i just laughed at your comment cause it isn't like i am asking them to be the best in the price range . Optical image stabilization is a standard at such price range and it bothers me and many other smartphone enthusiasts so that argument also falls short of yours .
So whats the catch ?
Its still a great phone except the camera and i wouldn't mind spending more on a better phone cause i use a flagship for more than 2 years so i wouldn't mind spending 200-300 bucks on a complete package .
@@Tom_Stevens617 This guy calls OIS unnecessary. This guy is dumb and probably visually impaired.
THANK YOU for mentioning OIS. Seeing other big tech reviewer ignore that omission blew my mind. It's so important; how did they miss something so obvious.
In Indian variant, they removed wireless charging also. and just 2 5G bands where samsung is offering more than 10
No 5g in India. And nobody uses wireless charging in India
@@userre85 commercial 5g will be available in India in mid 2022. As for wireless charging, Indians do use it. You definitely don't know a thing or two about India.
@@userre85 so you speak for all Indians? 5G is fine but are you sure about wireless charging? "Nobody" is a strong word. Even automobiles have wireless charging pad feature available in them nowadays..
@@starboy415 yeah yeah you need 5G when 4G sh!t bricks 😂😂
@@lovee2400 meaning nine uses , cant afford either .
Best thing about Dave2D, the reviews are always short and crisp.
This was the first time I couldn't believe Dave. I actually went and checked the specs to be sure that 9 does not have OIS!! I mean even Nord, which Dave referenced in the video, has OIS!!
Even the 9R has it! 🤣
Even Oneplus 3t has OIS and that 330$ at that time
Wait till you see Color OS instead of Oxygen OS
@@tabreztisekar That would be the death of Oneplus if they do it outside China.
@@javadesmaeelpour7833 yeah, I know that. But unfortunately, that is going to happen.
Thank you Dave! I've been wanting/waiting for a reviewer to talk more about the 9's camera.
They've even removed Wireless Charging and providing only 2 5G bands for the Indian version !!
Who cares lol.
@@Tom_Stevens617 Thought you were a troll, here's my confirmation.
@@prodbyfaith Huh?
@@Tom_Stevens617 Everyone do you crippled Stevens I see you are trying to save OnePlus in every comment on the video😂
I think the 9R has OIS so its even more strange that the 9 doesn't have it
Even the Nord has OIS🙄
Did he really just say Loki - Netflix 😂😂😂
My mans forgot Disney owns everything
Except Nintendo
@@Matanumi lol
Just noticed the name of the video change from Aggressive upselling to the crippled camera lol
Same
The first title was something is missing
@@beactivebehappy9894 the first one was Something is missing.
Yeah the removal of OIS is super weird, especially considering that the Nord 2 have OIS. I was just as surprised when Xiaomi remove it from the 11T series. By the way Samsung entry level phones from 2021 like the A22 have OIS 🤯.
I love Dave’s review because it’s just straight to the point. Simple. Clean.
They removed OIS to put it back on OnePlus 9T 🤣 I'm 1000% Confirm!
you are the only channel I watch immediately when you release your video
Me too, only channel I turned the notifications on
you are really doing him a favor. Thanks for expressing this to him.
$1000 here in Canada. A bit out of my price range. Not having ois seems silly at that price point
They're cutting features to keep the cost down... while bringing the cost up
@@wheezel55 Yep. No reason to go for oneplus right now with so many competitive phones. In a couple of months it'll probably be on sale for half the price tho (like the 8T) so maybe then
Get a poco F3
@@gamingpriests S20 FE 5G might be a great option.
Dave, you mentioned 1+ has good software. Since the system upgrade to Android 11, my 7tpro keeps crashing with frozen screen and drops out of internet connection. With your reviews on the 9s I think it's time to explore my options from the land of the rising sun. Thanks Dave👍
Damn honesty is a rare trait these days. Thanks man!
it really broke his heart! I was not sad but he was disappointed!
Dave: fairly large deficiency in the camera system
Me : damn that hassleblad partnership going well huh??
It's their first time so I'd give it a pass. But witholding hardware that's dirty.
They say that the hasselblad is on the pro mode (camera app) I don't know if it's true or not but can someone at least confirm anything? Do a review
@@Ayurachi it's just a marketing stunt my man. Hasselblad doesn't mean shit.
@@Ayurachi from what I heard, the partnership with Hasselblad is for 3 years, and now they have not developed anything on the hardware front, just given "tips to improve". So, basically it's a farce and a marketing gimmick with zero worth.
At this point I just want a 1hr podcast from you.
Love to hear you.
Wt ware r 1st
He will be on the Lew Later podcast some time soon 🤞
Better review than MKBHD tbh. He didn't tell about lack of OIS. Thanks Dave :)
When I switched from the Xiaomi Mi9T I had 2 options, Google Pixel or OnePlus, because I wanted a stock Android experience. But seeing more and more people complain about the slow software updates and the removal of features I decided on a Pixel phone.
Weirdly enough, Samsung is now a good choice for those that are concerned about software support.
Software support has been so freaking bad with OnePlus phones lately that I can't recommend them anymore even though I've been using OnePlus phones since the launch of the OnePlus One. I can't be bothered to buy a phone every year to have the latest Android version.
Oneplus r trying to become the apple of the bbk trio!! I also m the same here but enough is enough!! They r just trying to milk money at this point. Their aftersales support is worse among brand!! Samsung also focuses on profit but they care bout their fans.. they always try to fix it. M and 8pro owner but goota say bye and it's my last device. One UI is just better in my opinion or get the next pixel at that price point.
What did you find bad in Oxygen OS?
Well said the software support is becoming horrible I am still on jan security patch and no android 11 on 7 pro
I like seeing StarCraft II footage on your videos. It always warms my heart.
Loved the Killer Instinct reference.
Nice wallpaper/theme, please drop the description !!
I must be blind but i literally have never noticed an actual difference in camera quality in just about any phone i've used for the last 5 years. I just don't care any more. They are all plenty good enough to take random shots of my dogs. I feel like this might be one of those things where content creators think it's important to everyone because it's important to them.
could you please add a link for the theme you use. it would be great ..
I was waiting for this video for soo long,
Nice to see an early review from you 👍
Yes, I was shocked about how he credited netflix for Loki but actually it's on disney+.
Had them both, and I feel better having the 9 over the Pro. The OIS never became a problem for me. The battery is better on the 9. The size is perfect, and I'm a big guy. Camera does what I need it to do 100% of the time, and I'm coming from a 11 Pro Max. Yeah, there's better cameras, but for the combo of what's offered, and I'm the average user, this is the best phone at this price!
thank you for mentioning about their inconsistency with software updates my oneplus 7t is still on android 10 which sucks.
The OnePlus 3T also has the OIS and then it went missing for the 5 & 5T. It does return with OnePlus 6 onward.
I just wanna say,
We love You.
People are saying oneplus 9 don't have OIS but even without this, video recording is stable asF.
Really like the homescreen setup, just curious how can also implement it for my oneplus
sameeeeeeeeeeee...
Hahahhahahaha... Loved the "C c c combo breaker" from Killer Instinct at 03:18. Nice one 👌
What's missing.🤔
Something
The Flagship Killer
Your dad
That title
@@ataco1559 your dad*
Do you write any kind of script, pointers or something or do you just improvise everything at the spot?
C-C-C-C-OMBO BREAKER brought me right back to the days of ultra combos with Orchid in the N64. Those were the days!
Thanks for this criticism. Hopefully they listen, also highlight about the lack of dual sim.
"Loki - Netflix"
You have no idea how mad that makes me
I came to say the same thing
why?
What??
What...Netflix??
Oh now I get it! Turn off subtitle, 0:40
As one who has never cared for cameras too much, I really appreciate what one plus phones have to offer with warp charge and what not 👍
I'd argue that the 499 OnePlus 8 is a better deal than the 729 OnePlus 9.
You just earned a sub. Thanks for being honest to your viewers!
I just loved your home screen setup can you please tell how?
Employee 1: We've partnered with Hasselblad for OnePlus 9 Pro, but there's no much improvement. What should we do?
Employee 2: Just remove OIS on regular OnePlus 9
Employee 1: Good idea!
Dave: "No one's done that yet" (removing OIS)
Apple: "Found our next feature"
@weinerschnitzelboy are you sure? I remember an old Google Pixel ad saying "We don't offer more features for a bigger phone" which was taking a direct hit at Apple.
@weinerschnitzelboy I mean....the Pro has a smaller battery then the Max, and doesn't have sensor- shift.
The mini has a smaller battery, and 12watt magsafe charging, a smaller display.
The gap between the 12 generation seems like more then the gap between the 11 and 13 generation
The more I watch Dave videos, the more I realise he is better than MKBHD, because Dave always talks the truth and get to the point
You are right. mkbhd makes video for the cinematic experience not for end user benefit
What about MrWhostheBoss?
That is exactly what a Dave2d fan would say.
@@mikiswordbreaker4805 he's amazing
New title: "OnePlus 9: WHAT THE F*** WERE THEY THINKING?!"
I've bought the OP 8T from amazon, as it was 100 euro off on sale, don't regret it at all, much better value then OP9, and been using GCam, and can say photos are quite good, am happy with it
Dave are you gonna review the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro? They even made a color specifically for you!
I think they will have the OIS in the T version, as you said, to make T look better.
First the Loki-Netflix thing then....
3:15 the OnePlus Plus 9 Pro lol
Hey Dave don't take too much stress please
brooooooo this intro!!! well done!!
When you see your favorite "lofi hip hop radio - beats to relax/study" youtube music video in a DaveD review ;)
Yay. Another video to listen to.
Your thoughts on 9R please
Another piece of crap. Better off getting S20 FE 5G
0:43 watch me give all of my attention to Netflix's Loki and giving zero shit about the phone😂
I was thinking "huh..Loki..on Netflix!? 🤣🤣
Hi @Dave2D - just wanted to say thanks. I had the OnePlus 9 on preorder, and I cancelled it after watching this video. I'm 100% ok with them keeping better features for the Pro model, I don't mind, but intentionally castrating the 9 just to give the Pro some weird edge? Nope, not ok, you won't get my money today OnePlus. Ordered an S21 instead, your review of it seemed a lot more positive.
Hey Dave, what launcher do you use on your phones?
Dave watching the Loki trailer is what I needed 😅
the unexpected C-c-c-c-combobreaker made me laugh out loud in the office. Thanks for that.
For one second I thought that Dave was playing StarCraft 2 on the phone... that would be nice! of course, with a keyboard and mouse + dex + a big screen would be totally awesome XD
Any idea what game he was playing?
Yeah I'd like to know about the name of the game too
What's the theme applied in that device Dave had?
I'm using OnePlus 9, sincerely everything works great, screen 120hz refresh rate, dual stereo speaker sounds great, 888 chip run blazing fast, charging damn fast along the main camera without OIS worst than 8T, and battery drain slightly faster.
Hey dave, the review was very short and sweet. But i would love to see some comprehensive insights.
I know I'm not the only one who wants to know what Icon Pack is being used by Dave! Anyone?? DAVE? It's so clean!
Flight ig
Where can i find it, I've been asking same question from so long but nobody replied to my threads
@@saurabhjangra just google OnePlus icon pack Flight.
@@senzubeanmedic yea man, just needed the name, installed it👍
@@saurabhjangra ruclips.net/video/YyMiZCXRMQY/видео.html here u go bro
can someone provide his home screen and icon setup guide :3 so calm and soothing
Flight icon pack. Nova launcher is better.
@@godwinemerald2289 wallpaper?
@@prithvisharma5492 screenshot and image search
One of my bro is dying to buy this. Thanks for the video. I can share this to him now
This is one of the best and honest review I have seen in a while from you Dave. I can really feel the frustration here in this video
I'm Not interested In OnePlus anymore after I read that Oppo Will Be Managing it and OnePlus CEO quit
PLEASE, can someone tell me what Android Skin is that; looks minimalistic and cool at the same time
Oxygen Os
oxygen os (oneplus) with custom icons
Fight Icon pack on playstore
I use whicoins icons pack with Oxygen OS, and a personal wallpaper
Whicons with nova launcher
Oneplus is not the same now.
It's was only good till Oneplus 3t for me.
Best reviewed Dave.. thanks 😊
Agreed with your points made here. I planned and saved up to finally upgrade my OnePlus 7 Pro because they were supposed to have fixed the accidental touch issue which I've come to loathe in my 7 Pro to the 9 but because of these moves, I can't part with my savings to get it. I won't do it to myself. Thanks for the video.
I'm still on my OP8T and the camera is so trash that I hate using it.
Autofocus is a 40% hit chance for me.
Honestly.
I tap to focus and this piece of crap can't do it 6/10 times...
Its horrible
Even I'm still using overplus 6T
Ha ha have 7 pro same shit camera
and got amoled screen burn after 10months wtf lol 🤷🏼♀️💩🤦
1:59 In Indian varient they even removed the wireless charging 😭😭
Not a flagship in my book
Ikr
Lol they removed the wireless charging and also they give only 2 5g bands. Oneplus has almost become oppo now.
@@akashsajjan206 yeah.
Probably coz of that new woman CEO or something
Oneplus should think like this:
"Who is dumb enough to buy a ₹50000 phone without OIS and wireless charging and Plastic back" 🙄
@@akb595 They really thought slapping a Big Iconic Camera brands logo on the back would make their phones incredible... absolute tomfoolery
the loki- netlifx makes me think this was supposed to come out on april fools lol
Jfc cut him some slack
I thought this when Carl left that OnePlus would fall
And it has begun
I am a huge fan or a fanboy
But this time it feels sad from inside
Miss u Carl
Waiting for NOTHING phones now
OnePlus needs a miracle now to come back
Such an honest review must watch for anyone who considers 9 over 9 Pro due to budget constraints. Every year OnePlus disappoints one way or the another, Samsung in India is sold with Exynos instead of Snapdragon. Only iPhone remains the best option, but it is the costliest and sold at a higher price compared to other regions such as the US for instance.