Sir can you please give me a laptop from your review units? I badly need a laptop but unfortunately can't afford 😔 please sir it will be very helpful for me. I also mailed you please check
@@GhostOutTheShell3035 wild has been around for some time.... how young are you? Wild, brutal, crazy, ridiculous, bonkers, etc. We've had many, just depends on what was probably used in your circle growing up.
I remember some android sheep telling me that now Apple is done for since Google is going their own chip. Google is the kind of DEI, they haven’t had a good product in years…
Not really, cause, at most, a single handfull of mobile games actually support 120 fps gameplay, despite all the "top 100 games with 120hz/fps support" lists you can find online. I've tested every single game on those lists, 3 games even, at most, supported 120 fps gameplay...
@@ncard00then Their is emulation specifically switch and PlayStation emulation that these new chips benefit heavy from Wii and GameCube already were insane on the 8 gen 3 imagine this 😂
@@kirby21-xz4rx i also kinda want to see how the 8 elite runs gta 5 on a windows emulator as well. crazy how chips like 8 gen 2/3 are already able to run it at an almost playable framerate
I got a OnePlus 12 after my 7 Pro died. The battery life on this thing is impossibly good - like, I can regularly end days above 80%, even when altering battery settings to be less forgiving. The 13 having that wide of an improvement is insane.
@arsenalx7 I don't charge throughout the day. I've had 2 hours of screen on time today - mostly full HD RUclips and use of the fitbit and caliber apps, neither of which have dark modes so it was just bright white pixels. I have had it on high but not max brightness, and currently am at 91%. I do have a mostly amoled black homescreen, keyboard, and RUclips app (revanced) for those little savings.
@@arsenalx7he was iPhone 7 user, old phones just suck, he probably is comparing that with the same usage he used to exhaust iPhone now only takes 20% of OP12 what's reasonable. Even iPhone users from 14, 15 series would notice the improvement since even Apple have efficiency, don't have battery capacity.
Oh no what happened to the 7 pro? 😭 Mine is still going strong (writing this on it) such great phones! Also how is your screen on time during a day you end the day with 80%? Can't be much?
It's true that 8 Elite is more efficient than the last gen but keep in mind that OnePlus changed their battery tech which is now Silicon/Carbon battery in OnePlus 13 instead of Li-Po battery in OnePlus 12.
@owengee7415 The Si/C battery tech is widely used in all major Chinese phone manufacturers this year in their all flagship phones for a single purpose - to improve the battery life. Why do you think they develop a new tech if that Li-Po tech is so damn perfect???
@@zoweej5448 Chemistry change leads to more capacity, more capacity was already mentioned in the video, there is no caveat needed here. are you gonna try and say the electrons coming out the battery are better electrons?
All of these really good efficiency improvements in battery gains in both laptops and cell phones. Makes me really excited for our next jump in battery technology. If someone can finish a successful solid state or graphite battery, we could see multiple days of use on one charge. Pretty exciting!
With the density of SiC batteries it could mean that laptops can have more space for upgradable components and bigger cooling while comfortably reaching that 99.9Wh battery capacity. OR, thinner laptops with the same cooling, battery capacity and upgradability.
@@BobMcBurger1 It's already in commercial. The earliest phones to have it was the Honor Magic5 Pro. The rest is playing catch up. This is it's 3rd or maybe 4th generation.
You're also forgetting the Battery Tech improvements, that's why they're able to fit bigger batteries in the same form factor. It's not the 8 Elite only contributing towards better battery life.
Since a few days I have a Oneplus 12 and it already blows my previous S23 Ultra out of the water when it comes to battery life. Can't wait to see what OP13 is able to achieve.
But the batzery capacity is only bigger, if there are parts when the chip use more power.. and there are already videos about burned hands with ROG 9.. wow, is that what a more efficient chip do, or is that what a chip with more power consumption/heating do..?
I just love how you don't beat around the bush and get right to the point. I can't think of another RUclipsr who does the same. Keep up the good work Dave! Cheers!
0:59 - My old budget oneplus X from 2015 had almost the same type of flat screen with rounded glass. it was still 1080p & amoled like a lot of the current flagships & cost only 250$ incl tax.
For me the easiest way to drain battery is wireless android auto with 5G, Bluetooth & wifi all connected, & waze & yt music running together. It cooks the device too on 40°C days even with ac despite the excellent efficiency of ol' faithful snapdragon 870.
This is why i returned my pixel 9 pro and went back to my op12. The pixel was pretty quickly brought to its knees when multitasking while using android auto, slowing down to unusable levels. The OP12 never really had issues with slowing down, only occasional "phone is too hot" notifications. Excited for the op13 to do even better
I ❤ how your videos are short and to the point. Also, I appreciate that attention to detail regarding thermals. Very few reviewers mention their ambient temperatures.
How was the OS experience, and are there any differences to other OSes? I'm using almost-stock android on a Motorola phone, and was a little disappointed on how bare-bones it was after coming from Samsung's OneUI. (But then, a bare-bones OS does have its benefits...)
@@ctrl_x1770 It's pretty atrocious. Oneplus is doing its best to emulate iOS and in the worst possible ways. One example is that they make lockscreen notifications disappear after you have unlocked your phone, even if you don't interact with them. iOS does this, but you can still swipe up and find them, they are just hidden. OnePlus actually just removes them. It's pretty annoying and there are lots of tweaks like that to Android.
If you want iOS like UI then go for OxygenOS/ColorOS or any other Chinese UI. They basically copy whatever apple does and yes there's some good and useful features alongside bloatware. I love clean UI so I avoid those junky UI. Speaking of Moto's Hello UI there's plenty to features, don't know which features you are missing other than 'Good lock'.
@@SouravSatvaya That is a fair point, and I'm not too sure why I said I was missing a lot of features now that I think about it. One feature I do miss though, is setting ring mute on a timer. And every time I change the phone from mute to unmute, it also resets the notifications sound as well, which is annoying. But overall it's a nice upgrade, very very minor problems.
@@ctrl_x1770 Yeah, every UIs have their own unique features which lacks on other UIs. I remember one of friends who was a long time Samsung user refused to switch brand just because other UIs didn't have swipe to call and sms from the dialer. I known that was too much but yeah some features really makes it harder to switch. I also used Moto phones and after switching to other brand I missed the "chop chop to turn on flashlight" and "twist twist to turn on camera". Yes, those were the names of those feature back then.
BOOM on point as always @Dave2D Glad you highlighted the significant increase of battery life of these Snapdragon 8 Elite SoC phones ... they ROCK!!!! I cannot wait to upgrade! Ain't nuthing gonna hold Snapdragon down! Never has, NVR will!
Went from a Pixel 6 to a Oneplus 12. Honestly charging my whole phone in 30 minutes or so and ending the day at 60% most workdays, its really hard to imagine wanting more. But I'm sure I'll feel it in 3 years knowing how long I keep my phones lol
I mean batteries degrade so you'll feel it in 3 years but yeah for a power user, this is a very welcome upgrade. It might be the 1st upgrade that increases both battery size using new battery tech and efficiency which combined blow last gen out of the water to the point that it might finally last an entire day with my kind of usage
You forgot to mention the fact that the new flagships have silicon carbon battery which can carry more capacity and is more efficient than lithium ion.
I would love an ROG Phone but the software is what stops me. No guarnteeded long term updates (or monthly security updates) for example. In the US, not using a Pixel or Samsung is hard in terms of making it last as long as possible. If I'm spending over $1,000 to buy a phone, it needs to last at least 3-4 years and phones like the ROG are a gamble.
@@xuhwj11 Correct, but it can get unsafe to use, just like using an old version of Windows or MacOS with no security updates. Not having the latest security patches promptly is dangerous as critical patches come out monthly. Honestly, it's something people rarely think about until they are impacted. If you want to take the risk, be my guest. Some apps may also be designed to use specific versions of Android to reduce the support needed by the developer. If a bug appears in the OS or an app, it may never be fixed. Why buy something that in two years, will become a security risk with no support when other brands/manufacturers such as Apple, Samsung, and Pixel will support their devices for 7 or more years? Other brands like OnePlus are also easier to mod and install custom ROMs on which has frequent updates when the manufacturer no longer supports them.
@@xuhwj11you're also saving companies money when they don't have to buy licenses for older phones or provide any updates (you know, because that cost money to do too). Seeing as the phone is $1500, I don't see those savings being passed on to the consumers.
I genuinely thought the battery life would have been worse than the 8G3. I was skeptical of them using a laptop (and by extension, a server) architecture CPU on a phone, but oh boy don't I love to be proven wrong when it comes to electronics innovation. Can't wait for the S25 Ultra, going to bag one of those if the price seems justifiable
The SD8G4 is based on something other than the Snapdragon X-Elite, which is dated, probably early 2023 designs. It is gen-2 and will be what the X-Elite Gen-2 is based on. There are two reasons for this: the age of the ancient X-Elite and the court case between ARM and Qualcomm. If ARM wins and the SD8G4 is based on the X-Elite, it could be banned, so Qualcomm redesigned it. Of course, ARM saw this and has withdrawn their licenses to Qualcomm, which, if followed through, would mean they could still ban the SD8G4. Likely, if Qualcomm loses, they will pay the billions to ARM and apologise to save their business.
@@andyH_EnglandI hope they win especially since arm for years have shown time and time again they heavily favor apple even way before the tensions with Qualcomm
@emperorpudding216 if ur talking about the lunch I get it...but it's much better now! There's videos on YT of ppl moding the game on mobile to PC level graphics!
Its the same situation like warzone for WW(just a bit better since devs are actively optimizing), my 8 gen 1 still gets fried after 15 mins of dailies and event, so the question is should broken not very optimized games should be used for testing or optimized reliable ones? ig reviewers might choose the most popular ones since people comment about the game that used for testing
@@Mr.Cheeesse i play the game on pc but sometimes when I'm at work and can't log in to PC I play on my ROG 8 and it's doing great for an hour long session no problem
@@Mr.Cheeesse I am playing Wuwa on my OnePlus 11r (with medium resolution and rest settings maxed out), surprisingly with 1.4 update my phone does not get hot, warm but not hot. In short, how much the game has improved from day 1 when I started playing.
What a great time to be shopping for a new phone. I just missed it by a year. There's no way I'm upgrading to the ROG 9 Pro, as muchas I'd love to. If you can afford to, I would highly recommend the ROG phone though. However Redmagic has a current generation premium device that won't break the bank. No IP rating though, so its kind of a gamble.
Samsung better release Snapdragon powered phones in Indian market instead of crappy Exynos powered. And if they don't we need to stop buying Exynos powered phones and for the same price.
That battery comment on charging to 80% is quite promising. On my current S23 plus, I have been keeping the charged range between 15% and 80%. The battery degradation is significantly less than charging to full. I am projecting that I could use this phone for 9 years rather than 3 years.
The battery mostly depends on the chipset and optimization. If the chipset is bad (example Snapdragon 888) and the OS is optimized, you'll get bad battery. If the optimization on the OS is bad but the chipset is good, you'll get bad battery too. There's many things to include to expect some good SOT (screen on time) from the device, and if one fails to impress, either optimization or the chipset, you'll be disappointed.
Its such a shame that Google doesnt use snapdragon chips anymore. Im not convinced the npu in the 8 elite cant do what the tensore does (and probably more efficient) and they used to add their own chip on the device for image proccessing before. I would switch from iPhone to the Pixel but i dont want half the performance headroom for the same price.
As a pixel user, I agree. That said, there's nothing I do with it that needs better performance. Though if battery life is that much better I might start questioning my loyalty.
Google is doing what Apple is and cutting Qualcomm out. This stops feeding a rival and means costs can be reduced. For example, Apple pays around $50 to TSMC to make Apple Silicon, whereas OnePlus will have to pay over $150 to Qualcomm for the SD8G4. Google is hoping to be as cost-effective as Apple. Samsung has also tried this with Exynos, but to date, they have been unable to compete.
@@AzVfL That is true. Apple pays $8 billion a year for Qualcomm modems, which is why, next year, It will start including its own modems in some devices like the iPhone SE. Also, Apple obviously has extra costs associated with their in-house chip design team.
I have a rog 5. 6000 mah honestly is too heavy to hold comfortably in one hand for normal use. If 5000 can provide full day battery, I rather have a lighter phone and bring external battery for long trip.
Switching from my realme gt 5g (sd888) to a phone with a sd elite chip is going to feel insane for me. It will basically double the battery life and run a lot cooler which is going to be incredible
Can you also talk about the new battery tech itself starting to roll in this generation as well? Especially the Chinese brands have already been releasing Silicon-Carbon or Graphene battery tech and I think this also makes quite a difference over the standard Lithium-Ion in both battery life and longevity as they also supposedly produce much less heat, even with fast charging.
Wait a minute, how did a Chinese manufacturer get their hands on the 888 Elite? The last time I checked, the U.S. had imposed a ban on advanced chips like these ??
Still using the oneplus 8 ever since it came out and i have to say it still work exactly like it was when i bought it while having bugs sometimes. There is degradation on the battery but its not a big issue since i still can use it almost a full day while also gaming here and there. I would this new phone with that battery life would be crazy long lasting and can be used for a longer time that my phone lasted. excited to see the longevity of the smartphones are no longer the hardware but the software side of thing
At this rate the one plus needs to have better cameras. I owned a 7Pro and it was behind other flagships at the time. Nowadays they’re charging very close to flagship prices and still lagging behind even a pixel or iPhone from last gen. Pictures are ok for the most part but video really puts them in shambles. I loved one plus for what it was back in the day but I can’t justify spending more than $700-800 on a phone if it doesn’t outperform a last gen phone.
17hr battery life out of OnePlus God damn son. This phone is going to be such a banger I really wonder why they are taking so long to bring it to America. 100w fast charge too which is crazy
You forgot to mention that these are new silicon carbide batteries, huge improvement from the past, not just only new chipset responsible for better battery life.
I believe Pixels could easily surpass iPhones if they improve their video recording plus have this architecture in their future Tensor chips, I believe those will be made by TSMC.
You finally talk about a OnePlus phone? How? Why? You stopped reviewing them long ago. Which I didn't like... Because you are my favorite RUclipsr/reviewer
Nice to see how well the new 8 Elite chip turned out gen 3 felt a big downgrade compared to the gen 2, we finally have an excellent option again. Also happy to see large batteries, all I need now is a foldable to utilize these (hopefully the Open 2).
We’ve been listening to “better chips=better battery life” speeches for a decade. Battery life won’t take a meaningful step forward until the actual BATTERY technology improves
It's crazy to think maybe in a few years, we will have phones that will go 1 week in between charges of just normal everyday use. That would be insane!
dave 2d is one of the few youtubers that respect people's time over their own wallet and thats rare + hes one of the last standing youtuber with a clean rep
Using s23 ultra (8 gen 2) and fully satisfied with the battery backup now. Now plan to switch as of now but really impressed to see the battery efficiency and performance of 8 elite. Looking forward to it. Hopefully in 2028 I will change S23 Ultra and switch to SD 12 elite powered phone (probably Samsung again).
So excited for this one usually i don't care much about flagship battery test because for the past few years they almost the same and always the midrange and budget that preformed better in terms of battery test but this new 8 elite chipset closing the gap. Right now im using 7 gen 3 with 6k mAh i can easily last 10 hrs screen time or more with some gaming and light usage, with mobile data on and also some hotspot since i mostly use laptop to do things. I think we don't need anymore powerbank to carry since the battery life so good now and also the charging speed is fast enough, just hope there will be smaller charger that will replaced powerbank use soon
Silicon carbide batteries and Qualcomms new chip is a crazy combo. New generation of phones are gonna be lit. Chinese phones are becoming very tempting
Still rocking my OnePlus 7 Pro which is on its way out, I do love the look of the ROG phones with the fancy LEDs. Will consider getting one though those Xiaomi Mix Flip phones look sweet too.
Silicon-carbon batteries which are have high density than lithium ion batteries is the major reason for better battery life and able to fit huge capacity in similar form factor
Also ROG Phone have this amazing feature where every time u charge the device it can bypass the power by not using the battery at all, adding more longevity to the battery.
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the next android flagships have CRAZY good battery life
Please don't speed in school zones thank you
Sir can you please give me a laptop from your review units? I badly need a laptop but unfortunately can't afford 😔 please sir it will be very helpful for me. I also mailed you please check
Friendship ended with MKBHD, now Dave2D is my best friend
Performance has a nice bump as well this year, probably the highest bump in last 4-5 years
I'm VERY interested in Honor phones with this processor, I mean 8 Gen 3 was already amazing on Honor Magic 6 Pro, can't wait for Honor Magic 7 Pro
Variable refresh rate on different parts of the screen is wild!
It's TIGHT!*
What's the next trendy word after the word Wild gets old?
@@GhostOutTheShell3035 brutal or any word, there's so many options, trendy word always existed in a given time in a given language and location
@@GhostOutTheShell3035 wild has been around for some time.... how young are you? Wild, brutal, crazy, ridiculous, bonkers, etc. We've had many, just depends on what was probably used in your circle growing up.
@@GhostOutTheShell3035 now everything is "diabolical"
Google still trying to create a tensor chip that can compete with the Snapdragon gen 2 from 2 years ago.
does it really matter, no one buys a pixel for gaming
@@justrvnnyes, but efficiency wise they also fall short
I don't think they're really trying
@@justrvnn bs , for that price you'd want something to have the capability
I remember some android sheep telling me that now Apple is done for since Google is going their own chip.
Google is the kind of DEI, they haven’t had a good product in years…
Elite chip being 40% increase in performance is a huge win
Its a toaster too🔥🔥🔥
@@sotosmatthew3046 Its power efficiency is also an unprecedented level.
@sotosmatthew3046 did you not see the video? it literally draws less power playing genshin
@@sotosmatthew3046someone didn't watch the vid 😂
This is not the only video of snapdragon elite on the internet ,reaching 50c on Genshin impact is not good 🤣
For once the word "Elite" in a product means something.
💀
Not really, cause, at most, a single handfull of mobile games actually support 120 fps gameplay, despite all the "top 100 games with 120hz/fps support" lists you can find online. I've tested every single game on those lists, 3 games even, at most, supported 120 fps gameplay...
@@ncard00then Their is emulation specifically switch and PlayStation emulation that these new chips benefit heavy from Wii and GameCube already were insane on the 8 gen 3 imagine this 😂
@@kirby21-xz4rx i also kinda want to see how the 8 elite runs gta 5 on a windows emulator as well. crazy how chips like 8 gen 2/3 are already able to run it at an almost playable framerate
It means equal to Apple
I got a OnePlus 12 after my 7 Pro died. The battery life on this thing is impossibly good - like, I can regularly end days above 80%, even when altering battery settings to be less forgiving. The 13 having that wide of an improvement is insane.
Do you charge throughout the day, or end with 80 percent without doing so? And what about screen on time? Because that's insane battery life
@arsenalx7 I don't charge throughout the day. I've had 2 hours of screen on time today - mostly full HD RUclips and use of the fitbit and caliber apps, neither of which have dark modes so it was just bright white pixels. I have had it on high but not max brightness, and currently am at 91%. I do have a mostly amoled black homescreen, keyboard, and RUclips app (revanced) for those little savings.
@@arsenalx7he was iPhone 7 user, old phones just suck, he probably is comparing that with the same usage he used to exhaust iPhone now only takes 20% of OP12 what's reasonable. Even iPhone users from 14, 15 series would notice the improvement since even Apple have efficiency, don't have battery capacity.
@@cgmsanno he means oneplus 7 pro. Not iphone.
Oh no what happened to the 7 pro? 😭 Mine is still going strong (writing this on it) such great phones!
Also how is your screen on time during a day you end the day with 80%? Can't be much?
ROG phones singlehandedly carrying the headphone jack 😢 please never stop
Red magic pro also carries it
Sony Xperia still has it on all current phones🧐
Sony, Asus' Zenfones and Red Magic phones also have headphone jacks.
@@arjunkrishna1 Zenfones no longer exist right?
@@abhitejvelore They do, 2024 model is Zenfone 11 Ultra.
It's true that 8 Elite is more efficient than the last gen but keep in mind that OnePlus changed their battery tech which is now Silicon/Carbon battery in OnePlus 13 instead of Li-Po battery in OnePlus 12.
that wont change battery life though, the capacity is already discussed.
@owengee7415 The Si/C battery tech is widely used in all major Chinese phone manufacturers this year in their all flagship phones for a single purpose - to improve the battery life. Why do you think they develop a new tech if that Li-Po tech is so damn perfect???
@@zoweej5448 the new tech is for density. Battery life is only dependent on the capacity which as the other commenter said, already mentioned.
@@zoweej5448 Chemistry change leads to more capacity, more capacity was already mentioned in the video, there is no caveat needed here. are you gonna try and say the electrons coming out the battery are better electrons?
New tech might make the battery physically smaller and/or cooler. But 5000mAh new tech is still the same in capacity as 5000mAh old tech.
All of these really good efficiency improvements in battery gains in both laptops and cell phones. Makes me really excited for our next jump in battery technology. If someone can finish a successful solid state or graphite battery, we could see multiple days of use on one charge. Pretty exciting!
True but it can't weigh too much or it doesn't belong in a phone once those 2 are figured out then yeah 👍
With the density of SiC batteries it could mean that laptops can have more space for upgradable components and bigger cooling while comfortably reaching that 99.9Wh battery capacity.
OR, thinner laptops with the same cooling, battery capacity and upgradability.
I really look forward to the next leap in battery technology honestly.
@@BobMcBurger1 It's already in commercial. The earliest phones to have it was the Honor Magic5 Pro. The rest is playing catch up. This is it's 3rd or maybe 4th generation.
@@BobMcBurger1 That's just how they operate when they're functioning normally, swelling while charging? Do they go back to normal size after charging?
You're also forgetting the Battery Tech improvements, that's why they're able to fit bigger batteries in the same form factor. It's not the 8 Elite only contributing towards better battery life.
He already isolated that variable. It's still a 40% increase in efficiency per Mah
"Genshin Impact - It's an old game now"
please excuse me as I crumble into dust
Cute pfp
You're pushing 30 aren't you?
It is a shame that the One Plus 13 has terrible video recording. It costs £1000 and it shouldn't have any shortcomings...
My OnePlus 7 Pro just broke I had to get an iPhone 16 Pro
Who said the OnePlus 13 is 1000£?
It doesn't actually cost £1000 though. If you're paying more than £600 you're doing it wrong.
@@NeilTheBoss12 "my phone broke so i had no choice but to buy a super expensive phone"
@johnappleseed2635 What? wydym?
Dave- “I’m in Canada. It’s relative cool” meanwhile Canada -15
It's not like his studio is at -15. It would be anywhere near +10 to +20
@@abhidahiya4007 ruined the joke , thanks for doing it
@@Vegeta_ble441 you're welcome. my room rn is like 24-27, thanks to nvidia
Ya our cold areas help 8f here so -13c. Gaming with cold air lol
I've been to Canada and it's really clean but too expensive and the laws suck
Since a few days I have a Oneplus 12 and it already blows my previous S23 Ultra out of the water when it comes to battery life. Can't wait to see what OP13 is able to achieve.
Dave just woke up and thought to make a video, but the hair though 🥹
We all have bad hair days.
@@Alexandru1996_ True
Finally more content about Android phones!
Glad i skipped an upgrade in 2024 , these new chips seem amazing 😮
Glad I upgrade every year no matter what. These new chips seem amazing.
@Gravage nice hulk pic tho 🗿 best hero in comics
Same 😂
@@UpgradeLemonade That's right!
@@Gravagewhy would you do that? Too much money lying around?
Battery capacity getting bigger, chipset getting more efficient. What a time to be alive!
But the batzery capacity is only bigger, if there are parts when the chip use more power.. and there are already videos about burned hands with ROG 9.. wow, is that what a more efficient chip do, or is that what a chip with more power consumption/heating do..?
also pricin getting beffier
I just love how you don't beat around the bush and get right to the point. I can't think of another RUclipsr who does the same. Keep up the good work Dave! Cheers!
you can really feel the single core performance improvement, everything feel snappy
0:59 - My old budget oneplus X from 2015 had almost the same type of flat screen with rounded glass. it was still 1080p & amoled like a lot of the current flagships & cost only 250$ incl tax.
Yep, form factors are being recycled. But what flagship comes with 1080p?
Xperia 1 mk VI does, sadly...
3:45 The way you explain things is so easy to understand. Amazing job!
Love the tintin styled hair, Dave xD
😂😂
Now all he needs is a dog with curly white fur and a drunk sailor with a short temper.
Blistering barnacles, you’re right.
Never knew Tintin was known outside of France and Belgium
@@MM-zo7q I am from and in Ethiopia grew up reading those cartoon series back in highschool 20+ years before
Damn nice to see your still doing them videos, used to watch you ages ago through my window (we were neighbors)
Not creepy at all...
You're or you are.
NOT your.
Stay in school you Peeping Tom.
🤣🤣🤣
@@andoletube Peter Parker did the same thing to Mary Jane Watson.
No one complained.
🤣🤣🤣
*you're
@@Gravage stick it up you're ass
The Anime Matrix on the ROG Phone 9 Pro looks so clean
It even lets you play games on it. It's a fun gimmick
ROG came a really long way with their phones. They're actually pretty good now.
@@lengors7327 It's not a gimmick if its functional
@@lengors7327 damn that's even better😂
@@ctrl_x1770 yeah even the Zenfones from Asus are pretty good
Every single year we hear about how much more efficient the chipsets are
For me the easiest way to drain battery is wireless android auto with 5G, Bluetooth & wifi all connected, & waze & yt music running together. It cooks the device too on 40°C days even with ac despite the excellent efficiency of ol' faithful snapdragon 870.
This is why i returned my pixel 9 pro and went back to my op12. The pixel was pretty quickly brought to its knees when multitasking while using android auto, slowing down to unusable levels. The OP12 never really had issues with slowing down, only occasional "phone is too hot" notifications. Excited for the op13 to do even better
I love the new intros where you subtly outline the product 👍
I ❤ how your videos are short and to the point. Also, I appreciate that attention to detail regarding thermals. Very few reviewers mention their ambient temperatures.
The latest update on my OnePlus 12 has made it incredibly fast and smooth. The phone is just brilliant. Can't wait to upgrade to the 13.
How was the OS experience, and are there any differences to other OSes? I'm using almost-stock android on a Motorola phone, and was a little disappointed on how bare-bones it was after coming from Samsung's OneUI. (But then, a bare-bones OS does have its benefits...)
@@ctrl_x1770 It's pretty atrocious. Oneplus is doing its best to emulate iOS and in the worst possible ways. One example is that they make lockscreen notifications disappear after you have unlocked your phone, even if you don't interact with them. iOS does this, but you can still swipe up and find them, they are just hidden. OnePlus actually just removes them. It's pretty annoying and there are lots of tweaks like that to Android.
If you want iOS like UI then go for OxygenOS/ColorOS or any other Chinese UI. They basically copy whatever apple does and yes there's some good and useful features alongside bloatware.
I love clean UI so I avoid those junky UI. Speaking of Moto's Hello UI there's plenty to features, don't know which features you are missing other than 'Good lock'.
@@SouravSatvaya That is a fair point, and I'm not too sure why I said I was missing a lot of features now that I think about it.
One feature I do miss though, is setting ring mute on a timer. And every time I change the phone from mute to unmute, it also resets the notifications sound as well, which is annoying. But overall it's a nice upgrade, very very minor problems.
@@ctrl_x1770 Yeah, every UIs have their own unique features which lacks on other UIs. I remember one of friends who was a long time Samsung user refused to switch brand just because other UIs didn't have swipe to call and sms from the dialer. I known that was too much but yeah some features really makes it harder to switch. I also used Moto phones and after switching to other brand I missed the "chop chop to turn on flashlight" and "twist twist to turn on camera". Yes, those were the names of those feature back then.
BOOM on point as always @Dave2D
Glad you highlighted the significant increase of battery life of these Snapdragon 8 Elite SoC phones ... they ROCK!!!!
I cannot wait to upgrade! Ain't nuthing gonna hold Snapdragon down! Never has, NVR will!
Its not just the chip, Its new battery tech too.
This is truly a generation worth upgrading for in pretty much every essential aspect of a phone, Qualcomm doing some good work man
Went from a Pixel 6 to a Oneplus 12. Honestly charging my whole phone in 30 minutes or so and ending the day at 60% most workdays, its really hard to imagine wanting more. But I'm sure I'll feel it in 3 years knowing how long I keep my phones lol
I mean batteries degrade so you'll feel it in 3 years but yeah for a power user, this is a very welcome upgrade.
It might be the 1st upgrade that increases both battery size using new battery tech and efficiency which combined blow last gen out of the water to the point that it might finally last an entire day with my kind of usage
It's worth remembering that this is the first Snapdragon 8 generation on 3nm, that alone is probably making most of the difference in battery life.
You forgot to mention the fact that the new flagships have silicon carbon battery which can carry more capacity and is more efficient than lithium ion.
Wonderful comparison.
Top notch content
Funny that removing efficiency cores actually increases efficiency 😅
Haha 😅
maybe because those cores were efficient a few years ago, now we need more efficient ones
Fr 😂
Excellent review 4 years of update is extremely important in order to see a seamless user experience
I would love an ROG Phone but the software is what stops me. No guarnteeded long term updates (or monthly security updates) for example. In the US, not using a Pixel or Samsung is hard in terms of making it last as long as possible. If I'm spending over $1,000 to buy a phone, it needs to last at least 3-4 years and phones like the ROG are a gamble.
and locked bootloader
updates have only been a problem for years now
Your phone doesn't magically stop working if it doesn't get updates.
@@xuhwj11 Correct, but it can get unsafe to use, just like using an old version of Windows or MacOS with no security updates. Not having the latest security patches promptly is dangerous as critical patches come out monthly. Honestly, it's something people rarely think about until they are impacted. If you want to take the risk, be my guest.
Some apps may also be designed to use specific versions of Android to reduce the support needed by the developer. If a bug appears in the OS or an app, it may never be fixed. Why buy something that in two years, will become a security risk with no support when other brands/manufacturers such as Apple, Samsung, and Pixel will support their devices for 7 or more years? Other brands like OnePlus are also easier to mod and install custom ROMs on which has frequent updates when the manufacturer no longer supports them.
@@xuhwj11you're also saving companies money when they don't have to buy licenses for older phones or provide any updates (you know, because that cost money to do too). Seeing as the phone is $1500, I don't see those savings being passed on to the consumers.
I absolutely NEED that OnePlus 13!!!! I am so ready for OnePlus
4:04 That should be MT/s not MB/s
Dave, your video quality is amazing. That's it.
I genuinely thought the battery life would have been worse than the 8G3. I was skeptical of them using a laptop (and by extension, a server) architecture CPU on a phone, but oh boy don't I love to be proven wrong when it comes to electronics innovation.
Can't wait for the S25 Ultra, going to bag one of those if the price seems justifiable
Same 🤣
The SD8G4 is based on something other than the Snapdragon X-Elite, which is dated, probably early 2023 designs. It is gen-2 and will be what the X-Elite Gen-2 is based on. There are two reasons for this: the age of the ancient X-Elite and the court case between ARM and Qualcomm. If ARM wins and the SD8G4 is based on the X-Elite, it could be banned, so Qualcomm redesigned it. Of course, ARM saw this and has withdrawn their licenses to Qualcomm, which, if followed through, would mean they could still ban the SD8G4. Likely, if Qualcomm loses, they will pay the billions to ARM and apologise to save their business.
@@andyH_EnglandI hope they win especially since arm for years have shown time and time again they heavily favor apple even way before the tensions with Qualcomm
@@kirby21-xz4rx@kirby21-xz4rx I think it is almost certain ARM will win, but hopefully, it can be settled amicably.
Very simple outro I love it.
Play Wuthering waves! It's the new mobile gpu benchmark game
yeah because it fries people's gpu's, let alone their phones 👀
@emperorpudding216 if ur talking about the lunch I get it...but it's much better now! There's videos on YT of ppl moding the game on mobile to PC level graphics!
Its the same situation like warzone for WW(just a bit better since devs are actively optimizing), my 8 gen 1 still gets fried after 15 mins of dailies and event, so the question is should broken not very optimized games should be used for testing or optimized reliable ones? ig reviewers might choose the most popular ones since people comment about the game that used for testing
@@Mr.Cheeesse i play the game on pc but sometimes when I'm at work and can't log in to PC I play on my ROG 8 and it's doing great for an hour long session no problem
@@Mr.Cheeesse I am playing Wuwa on my OnePlus 11r (with medium resolution and rest settings maxed out), surprisingly with 1.4 update my phone does not get hot, warm but not hot. In short, how much the game has improved from day 1 when I started playing.
What a great time to be shopping for a new phone. I just missed it by a year. There's no way I'm upgrading to the ROG 9 Pro, as muchas I'd love to.
If you can afford to, I would highly recommend the ROG phone though. However Redmagic has a current generation premium device that won't break the bank. No IP rating though, so its kind of a gamble.
Samsung better release Snapdragon powered phones in Indian market instead of crappy Exynos powered.
And if they don't we need to stop buying Exynos powered phones and for the same price.
according to leaks they'll only use snapdragon
Exynos yields are too low, about 20% so don't worry, Snapdragon will be available to all markets
Im with s22+ and yes I'm not happy with exynos anymore. As I play some of heavy games, it's like I can fry egg on it. Gotta upgrade next year
And fast charging. I can't live without it now after retiring 2 onepluses
They will
Qualcom is on fire right now with their performance and efficiency of their new chips, phone or laptop.
Dave2D is what MKBHD should have grown up into but instead he is too busy riding Musky nuts.
2D better than HD
Crazy how easy it was for them to fix battery life. I know there are cost factors but they could've fixed it before now, idk
anyone wondering why his "Impossible laptop fan" video got deleted?
some parts of the video were missing images (but I don’t know if this is actually the problem)
i too wondered
ok I can confirm, the video was removed because some images were missing
Something he forgot to mention that battery tech is changed, now it's Si/C instead of Li-ion
I'm waiting for a pop-up camera 5g capable phone with dual speaker, 3.5 jack and a memory card slot. Is it too much to ask for ??? 😭😭😭😭😭
Yes
Sony phone for your back. But will you really buy it?
That battery comment on charging to 80% is quite promising. On my current S23 plus, I have been keeping the charged range between 15% and 80%. The battery degradation is significantly less than charging to full. I am projecting that I could use this phone for 9 years rather than 3 years.
The battery doesn't depend on the chip only. This year they are using a new type of battery.Which allows the companies to put bigger batteries.
The battery mostly depends on the chipset and optimization. If the chipset is bad (example Snapdragon 888) and the OS is optimized, you'll get bad battery. If the optimization on the OS is bad but the chipset is good, you'll get bad battery too. There's many things to include to expect some good SOT (screen on time) from the device, and if one fails to impress, either optimization or the chipset, you'll be disappointed.
It gets crazy hot. One guy on twitter had a red mark on his hands that lasted 20 minutes to go away….
Its such a shame that Google doesnt use snapdragon chips anymore. Im not convinced the npu in the 8 elite cant do what the tensore does (and probably more efficient) and they used to add their own chip on the device for image proccessing before. I would switch from iPhone to the Pixel but i dont want half the performance headroom for the same price.
As a pixel user, I agree. That said, there's nothing I do with it that needs better performance.
Though if battery life is that much better I might start questioning my loyalty.
Google is doing what Apple is and cutting Qualcomm out. This stops feeding a rival and means costs can be reduced. For example, Apple pays around $50 to TSMC to make Apple Silicon, whereas OnePlus will have to pay over $150 to Qualcomm for the SD8G4. Google is hoping to be as cost-effective as Apple. Samsung has also tried this with Exynos, but to date, they have been unable to compete.
@@andyH_England I think the $150 includes the 5G modem, unlike Apple
@@AzVfL That is true. Apple pays $8 billion a year for Qualcomm modems, which is why, next year, It will start including its own modems in some devices like the iPhone SE.
Also, Apple obviously has extra costs associated with their in-house chip design team.
@@andyH_England I think it's not just cost but control. They can "wire" the chip to do what they went it to do in terms of architecture.
Very awesome video!
Companies who don't put 6000 mah batteries with super efficient processors should be charged with war crimes....
Heavier and thicker
@@kirby21-xz4rxoneplus 13 is thinner and lighter than last year
@@eduard6450 nvm, I didn't know how much smartphone battery tech has evolved in the recent years 💀
Apple gon be in jail for a long time
I have a rog 5. 6000 mah honestly is too heavy to hold comfortably in one hand for normal use. If 5000 can provide full day battery, I rather have a lighter phone and bring external battery for long trip.
@Dave2D is always worth listening to when he's reviewing a device
@Dave2D “Mike you jelly bean, from you know who”
2:42 the M1 chip.
That... Wasn't a generational improvement. It was literally 1. The first.
Not on a phone
Switching from my realme gt 5g (sd888) to a phone with a sd elite chip is going to feel insane for me. It will basically double the battery life and run a lot cooler which is going to be incredible
Can you also talk about the new battery tech itself starting to roll in this generation as well? Especially the Chinese brands have already been releasing Silicon-Carbon or Graphene battery tech and I think this also makes quite a difference over the standard Lithium-Ion in both battery life and longevity as they also supposedly produce much less heat, even with fast charging.
Thank you for changing the title of the video
Wait a minute, how did a Chinese manufacturer get their hands on the 888 Elite? The last time I checked, the U.S. had imposed a ban on advanced chips like these ??
That's just Huawei.
there is no 888 elite
Because Asus is a Taiwanese company. And Taiwan themselves tsmc make THE chip.
OnePlus vivo realme Huawei are Chinese brand.
Still using the oneplus 8 ever since it came out and i have to say it still work exactly like it was when i bought it while having bugs sometimes. There is degradation on the battery but its not a big issue since i still can use it almost a full day while also gaming here and there. I would this new phone with that battery life would be crazy long lasting and can be used for a longer time that my phone lasted. excited to see the longevity of the smartphones are no longer the hardware but the software side of thing
Finally, some non-Apple coverage
Save us like my favorite tech RUclipsr. He's just like me fr, doesn't care about his hair, he just sets the camera up and hits record lol
At this rate the one plus needs to have better cameras. I owned a 7Pro and it was behind other flagships at the time.
Nowadays they’re charging very close to flagship prices and still lagging behind even a pixel or iPhone from last gen.
Pictures are ok for the most part but video really puts them in shambles.
I loved one plus for what it was back in the day but I can’t justify spending more than $700-800 on a phone if it doesn’t outperform a last gen phone.
17hr battery life out of OnePlus God damn son. This phone is going to be such a banger I really wonder why they are taking so long to bring it to America. 100w fast charge too which is crazy
You wouldn't review the phones. You won't give us the benchmarks. Then why the hell are we here?
You forgot to mention that these are new silicon carbide batteries, huge improvement from the past, not just only new chipset responsible for better battery life.
Stop being hyperbolic; it's THE NEXT GREATEST THING"... for about 6 months, then we'll act like this "NEXT BIGGEST..." is trash comparatively.
Yeah that’s how technological advancements work.
The weight brothers plane was the greatest thing for a bit. A few years later it was garbage.
I believe Pixels could easily surpass iPhones if they improve their video recording plus have this architecture in their future Tensor chips, I believe those will be made by TSMC.
You finally talk about a OnePlus phone? How? Why? You stopped reviewing them long ago. Which I didn't like... Because you are my favorite RUclipsr/reviewer
Nice to see how well the new 8 Elite chip turned out gen 3 felt a big downgrade compared to the gen 2, we finally have an excellent option again. Also happy to see large batteries, all I need now is a foldable to utilize these (hopefully the Open 2).
We’ve been listening to “better chips=better battery life” speeches for a decade. Battery life won’t take a meaningful step forward until the actual BATTERY technology improves
it did though, both snap elite and the new battery tech that can hold more capacity
I think improvement is due to the new battery technology silicon carbide. My honor 200 🔋 life is phenomenal !!!
How is this the first time I've heard about the op13 having local variable refresh rate???? Also that is so freaking cool
It's crazy to think maybe in a few years, we will have phones that will go 1 week in between charges of just normal everyday use. That would be insane!
I just bought a OnePlus 12 as a secondary phone on sale and to be honest. For $300 off normal price black friday i am pretty satisfied.
You got it for 300 usd?
@300 discount off normal price I’m pretty sure that’s what 300 off means
dave 2d is one of the few youtubers that respect people's time over their own wallet and thats rare + hes one of the last standing youtuber with a clean rep
Using s23 ultra (8 gen 2) and fully satisfied with the battery backup now. Now plan to switch as of now but really impressed to see the battery efficiency and performance of 8 elite. Looking forward to it. Hopefully in 2028 I will change S23 Ultra and switch to SD 12 elite powered phone (probably Samsung again).
So excited for this one usually i don't care much about flagship battery test because for the past few years they almost the same and always the midrange and budget that preformed better in terms of battery test but this new 8 elite chipset closing the gap. Right now im using 7 gen 3 with 6k mAh i can easily last 10 hrs screen time or more with some gaming and light usage, with mobile data on and also some hotspot since i mostly use laptop to do things. I think we don't need anymore powerbank to carry since the battery life so good now and also the charging speed is fast enough, just hope there will be smaller charger that will replaced powerbank use soon
oh boy finally time for a new phone, looking at you Oneplus13....
Typing this on my OP9
The reason why 8 gen elite has better battery life than 8gen 3 its not because its an efficient chipset but it has bigger battery its just physics!
We all need to remember that it's not just the chipset that improves the battery. The ui also matters
Every time you wear that hoodie I am reminded that I WANT IT! But they don't make it anymore..
Silicon carbide batteries and Qualcomms new chip is a crazy combo. New generation of phones are gonna be lit. Chinese phones are becoming very tempting
Still rocking my OnePlus 7 Pro which is on its way out, I do love the look of the ROG phones with the fancy LEDs. Will consider getting one though those Xiaomi Mix Flip phones look sweet too.
As an iphone user that variable refresh rate is a gamechanger.hope apple implement in 17 lineup
Silicon-carbon batteries which are have high density than lithium ion batteries is the major reason for better battery life and able to fit huge capacity in similar form factor
more exciting things are happening in android world than ios imo
I was about to subscribe but since you didn't say "subs if u loved it" I'll keep it for later
How did I just fully enjoy a video about battery life 😂
Also ROG Phone have this amazing feature where every time u charge the device it can bypass the power by not using the battery at all, adding more longevity to the battery.
Localized refresh rate on the screen? How is that even possible?
The OnePlus offset camera looks like a mistake when it's missing the visual "connection" to the side of the phone like the previous.