3 Baits You should NEVER USE BRAIDED FISHING LINE WITH
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The best crankbait fisherman ever, David Fritts, uses braid on crankbaits. David has designed a lot of crankbaits we use.
David fritts didn’t use braid until he was older. He did not use that when he was a competitive angler.
@@BrianLatimerFishing I know for a fact he was using it in 2017 and he retired last year.
"Little Daryl 363 " had me dying 🤣🤣. Love your stuff brother, keep up the awesome content. Tight lines!
Me tooo! Okay daaarrryl you win 😂😂😂😂😂
I agree with you 100% on braid with crankbaits but I think it’s interesting that David Fritts uses braid exclusively when he fished crankbaits now.
Little Darryl here. Actually braid is the best application for any bait. Especially a spoon. Lol. Dude you crack me up. Great info. Bet I'm into the only one thinking I need to change my setups. 😂
100% agree. Straight Braided line can be very useful in specific situations. I often use mono or Floro leaders and achieve a good compromise.
I am in a similar boat with not having a ton of set ups. So I run braid to whatever type of leader line fits the situation I need. Works great. I do tend to run longer leader lines on bait caster moving style baits.
you and Christian greico absolutely turned me on to diamond braid at the straight up fishing seminar. by far the smoothest and toughest braid I've used. I put on suffix 832 the day before I went to the seminar and put the braid from the goody bag on another combo of the same set up and the difference is insane. it's like silk vs burlap to the touch the casting distance is easily 25% further and it HOLDS UP.
I was laughing because I share the frustration in the argumentative types. That was great ;-) Keep offering up your advice, a lot of us just listen and don't feel the need to argue with every little thing.
I use nothing but braid. Usually 15# and a 8-12# mono or flouro leader. I also tend to use a medium rod, where most would use a MH. Also crankbait rods on squarebills, cranks, and some topwater. I get much better feel and rod flexes instead of line stretching.
Good stuff!
I agree on mono or fluoro being better for those, with my limited combos, running leader has worked out best for me personally. Some of my rods, primary chatter bait rod for example, will have braid to 20ft of fluoro leader for some stretch.
I agree with you. Lines are situation and lure-specific. I use fluoro and braid for lures. I get good hooksets and lose fewer fish with fluoro. Braid is for in weeds and musky fishing. I find fluoro much better for many situations I fish.
I tend to run braid to flouro on all my combos. I’ve done them every way and would have nothing but problems with straight flouro so I found braid to leader seems to work best for me personally. I stopped running straight braid for the most part though because it’s just too much sometimes and when u get snagged it’s too hard to snap the line I used to just say f it and cut it lol. Ur definitely spot on with straight braid to spinnerbaits though I’ve done that too often and would have the hardest time getting them to run right and not get tangled like braid and spinnerbaits love to get all twisted up so I don’t do that anymore. I’ve also came down a lot on the strength of my braid I normally just stick to 20-30lb now there’s really no need for 65 or 50 even when frogging or fishing the ca delta. Anyways, ur right about straight braid to any of those baits but I say braid to leader is perfectly acceptable as well lol. Also, the 13 fishing jabber jaws r great baits and look great. 13 fishing doesn’t get the recognition they deserve their hard baits r definitely high quality and have some of the best paint jobs and the hooks they use r just right.
Great video! I’ll use the advice this weekend when I go out
Fishing down south in muddy waters of Mississippi rivers i had always run 20# braid especially fishing coastal waters (due to redfish and other). Recently in the past 3 years i started fishing clear water lakes like Pickwick. Well i wasn't catching many. So i added fluro to a few reels and found my hook up ratio on spinner bait, square bills, and chatterbaits increased 10 fold and i also learned the drop shot MY FAVORITE. I do think that with braid i was just pulling the bait out their mouth. I am glad I am not the only one who feels that way. Thanks for the tips tricks and advice
Thanks for the tips. I was about to rig a Chatter Bait rod with braid.
I use braid for anything topwater and on my spinning rod for senkos and dropshots...I started using Flouro about 4 years ago and absolutely fell in love with it...My only issue is that I go through a lot of it and if you want the good stuff it's expensive...
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Love it, I usually fish a small pond and it seems the only Braid I can get away with is 4lb dia 15lb test. Even still Floro and Mono out fish the Braid 10 to 1 on my fishery. I just feel like my fish are spooked by line and only fine dia. line will pass. Use It to save my Ned rig heads, 4lb floro and mono break off extremely easy when snagged in grass.
I agree, the only time I use braid fishing grass using a frog, jig and worm. I think todays rods are much more sensitive I think you can use mono or fluorocarbon with most techniques today.
such awesome content blat. keep it going!
Always on point! Thx!
Good stuff B-Lat,,, keep em’ Commin’🎣
I don’t really disagree with you, but I will say this about snagging.
Getting snagged on a crank (or anything) with high test braid you’ll stretch the hooks out not break off, which I prefer losing terminal tackle vs a whole lure. Happened the other day actually. I broke my leader off and had no replacements, got snagged and stretched a hook. Just had to replace the hook later, kept my $7 lure though.
Also, the 8 strand braid is much better. You get a smoother line. In tree climbing we have 12,16,24 strand, the 24 strand is smooth as butter, and so that reflects the same for 4 strand vs 8 strand braid. More strands means smoother jacket, which means farther casts and quieter operation.
Okay Darryl, that was phenomenal! Always some comic relief and don't give AF.
I feel like many folks just go with whatever they hear for years and years , to each their own but i put braid on every reel always and have never gotten less bites from it or seen any negatives. I could haul a tree up if i need to and never lose a hooked fish due to line breaking. Same with lures ..anything i can use a snap swivel for im going to and have never caught less fish than the guy next to me even if it loses action. Spinner baits and worms and flukes is about the only time i tie straight to a lure just to br weedless. I have 5 poles but still keep a few with snap swivels to change baits in a few seconds and can usually get in multiple casts while a buddy is still tying something on. Fyi havent watfhed the video yet ..this was the first video when i typed use braid for everything. Heading to watch it now
Very good video Brian, super helpful. I was wondering why I was having so much difficulty with those 3 specific lures. I was watching this video while at work so I didn’t hear you say if tying on a leader to braid would mitigate those problems?
I agree that proof of insurance should be checked at the beginning of the season. My local club makes an announcement letting us know to renew our fishing license since they all expire at the same time.
The treble hook rule may be true for fish with soft mouths. But for hard-mouthed fish like the golden dorado and piranha I fish for, the lack of stretch really helps setting the hook. Always upgrade to stronger trebles and split rings too!
For the last several years the first thing I do when I get a new bait is change the hooks and the split rings! It has made my life much easier
@@brucepreston3927 I just learned that in the last few weeks. Thanks for the reminder I was wondering because sometimes the hooks are to small anyway
Thanks for the tips!
This is what I use (just me)
Medium/fast cast with 12 pound fluoro.
Medhvy/fast cast with 15/17 fluoro.
Medhvy/fast cast with braid
Medlite/ fast spinning braid/fluoro leader.
This is what I’m currently using and it’s definitely not perfect need a heavy rod.
Fantastic channel and info great stuff 👍🏻
I just got a med/fast 2500 spinning setup. I need a med/heavy baitcaster setup
I know favorite does your rods. But St Croix has a chart up for what ever you are fishing what line types and size to use helps take out the guess work even the lure weight recommendations.
I have braid on all my reels,.. but I also have a length of either mono or flouro shock leader w/ FG knot but I never use straight braid to any lure,... I never lose fish from this system👍😎🤙
I use 15 to 20 pound braided line most of the time. I have had more hooks bend and break before the line gives in many cases. On most crank baits I change the rings or use the eyelet the ring is attached to.
I used 2 different brands of braids. I had problems using it. When I tie the knot, I always wet it before I tighten it, after a couple of cast I noticed that the line 🪢 came apart at the knot. I could spread each strand of the fishing line. I use Sufix siege 12lbs and 14lbs mono
Thanks for the info brother
Almost always agree with your comments but have to say I have used braid of some type for over 20 years with my favorite of all time bait, the spinner bait. I know most will say to use flouro but braid has worked for me with some slight adjustments, slightly looser drag and a little softer rod. Never felt like I lost a fish due to line but I don't fish in the land of giants either and never use braid over 30#. Works for me.
Thanks for watching! I appreciate your time and support. You honestly don’t owe me any agreement.
I just use a long leader it works great. Caught an 7.58lbs smallie on a KVD crank in a storm not long ag. With several 6-9lbs fish that Same trip. Consistent in the summer but I use a stretchy leader and I use a 8ft crank pole with a 6 foot leader.
You could always just adjust your drag so you don't rip the o-rings and hooks
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I like braid for the strength I need when stuck in snags. I can always replace the rings and hooks if they get bent out from pulling, as long as I save the lure itself then I'm happy.
Boat anglers never look at fishing situations like shore bound guys. I throw a ton of e glass rods with braid.
The reason for the crankbaits not working on braid seems pretty simple. If the fish is skin hooked a line with a little give will put less stress on that skined hook. Whereas braid, with no stretch at all, is going to put maximum pressure on that hooking point and pull the hook free.
Great insights!
So if my main is braid what line should I be using for my lures. I see most people having their braid up to the weight and a different type towards the hook. Unless it's artificial then I think they rub like a swivel or eye hook or whatever the heck it is from their main braid to whatever off brand they're using for the hook
Pls help me because I'm dying to know and I've been debating with my buddy who always says I've never had issues with braid but I want to know since I just started fishing
Hey ! Brain the rod is a medium light lure weight 1/64 - 1/4 oz and line weight 4 - 12 LB
I like running a mono leader when fishing spooks and poppers too because the stiffer mono doesn’t get caught up behind the bait and in the hooks
I do that too but with fluorocarbon. Many people believe fluorocarbon is not usable for topwater a but it is. You just need a small piece on front of the braid. It’s a really good set up
I caught 41 bass on 40 cast...and biggest 8.49 lbs....on braid and natural shad square bill....Lake Sam Rayburn....we also won the tournament we we're in....and still use it....I just set my drag lighter...
Hello ! Brain. I forgot to let you know my spinning rod and reel setup for the worden original rooster tails 1/8 oz and 1/4 oz size. My spinning rod are a Todd huckabee dingo 7 foot 1- pc spinning rod and my spinning reel are a Dawia tatutla Lt size 2500 spinning reel.👍
I agree with all of these, except the chatter bait. I fish chatter bait on straight braid and I very seldom lose fish. Big or small.
I use lots of braid, 8lb,10,20,30,50,65 here in florida. Floro work good, just pricey. Cheap floro, curls up bad,premium line is premium $.so for a budget guy liters are more affordable. And why i use them vs. Filling w just floro.if i had the choice, no cost involved floro gets more bites,and is better for abrasions.
Great info as always, but I Have a question. I have a 7ft 2inch heavy rod, looking to get a 7ft 11inch or 8 ft heavy what's the idea heavy rod leath for all situations?
OK so maybe I'm old school, well yes I'm old. 54, Just a one or two day Monday through Friday and one day on the weekends kind of fishing guy. Grew up in NJ fishing with my dad and his friend for stripers, bluefish, fluke and flounder. ( and yes there is a difference ) there was nothing but Mono..... down and dirty. Then came fluorocarbon, and it was a great improvement. In my opinion your rod set up is the most important. I moved to Missouri about 20 years ago and got back into fresh water fishing. Its simple... Fluorocarbon sinks, thats for any thing under the water, mono floats top water. Rod if it has treble hooks, ST Croix Mojo Bass Glass rod. Yes I know Glass but..... it is very Parabolic in the bend it loads up great and keeps them light wire treble hooks stuck. Anything with single hook, Jig, chatter bait, buzz bait, Spinner bait you get where im going i use a Shimano bait caster Medium heavy Moderate to fast and all on Fluorocarbon, Or maybe even copolymer. Braid if for the nasty stuff. Pads heavy grass and monster rocks ETC... But if i ony knew 1/2 of what you forgot already id be such a better fish catching machine.
And the fourth bait is Jerkbaits?
I’m starting to fish more and more with fc. Here in Sweden braid has been the go to line for every single angler for many years, but it’s starting to change.
Thanks for the video!
Enjoy you in your videos. Nice job
I do use straight floro on my crank bait setup, but I tend to use braid to a leader for most everything else, including spinnerbaits and Chatterbaits. Haven’t had any issues, but I’m a bank angler and catch 1-4lb bass, so not over stressing the snap/wire.
I like how you add 1-4 lb bass like they might be some type of small 🤣. We’re all catching 1-4 pounders in all actuality.
Bass over 4 lbs are not common. You may get a few a week if in the right region and fishing enough.
@@BrianLatimerFishing You? BLat? Catchin dinks? Say it ant so!! Ha
@@johnmcintyre97414lbs is my PB, and most of the fish I catch are closer to the 1-2lb range. I’m in Northern VA, and fish ponds most of the time.
@@robertbain2435 I agree, caught a 4 pounder on a frog at a shopping mall pond in Ashburn while my Wife had a glass of wine on the restaurant deck watching me... LOL that is my PB!
Funny i found this video today because yesterday that very thing happened to me, i had a red devil lure on and 15lb J braid fishing for chain pickerel and when he hit POP ! Lost everything !
Great video! AFish on!
I've run braided line since the beginning, but I've always put an FC leader on that's about twice the poundage of the main line. I get that a lot of anglers carry around 3-4 rods every time they go out, but I only bring just one.
So if you only have a 2500 med/fast spinning setup… what’s the overall most versatile setup? 15/lb braid to 8/lb flouro/mono leader?
@@greg6162 I typically use heavier leader. As emphasised in the video braid is a lot stronger than the rated poundage. 15lb test is more closer to 30lb test breakage. I fish mostly UL on a BFS reel. Currently I use 4lb braid on an 8lb flouro leader.
I was using a crank-bait yesterday and the braided line was split with the treble hook of the crank-bait. Very frustrating and last time I'll do that!
We’re you running a leader?
@@greg6162 no but I will now. Fishing around oyster beds I use braided line most of the time.
So if you only have one rod and already set up for braid to flouro can I just turn down the drag to solve most of these problems?
Brian what do you think about Yozuri hybrid flouro nylon? I have been using it for my leaders on braid.
braid to flouro. i will say however that with a spinnerbait, i only use titanium wire ones with a closed loop. no issues. i also tend to just use a bendier rod. instead of fast action, i go to medium or mod fast.
Where can I buy that exact square bill crank bait? Love the color and size… just started fishing and I don’t have any crank baits yet
Edit: I’m on a Nasci 2500 spinning reel so maybe I need a smaller size or would that work?
So what lures do you use braided line with, what lures do you use fluorocarbon line for and mono for?
B LAT. Good content. I agree with you that all 3 of those in 95 percent of applications work best on fluorocarbon. However if you fish a ton of grass like we do up north, baits like this snap through grass much better with braid. It also cuts the grass nicely. Gets you that reaction strike. Fluorocarbon gets the bait bogged down.
Is it ok to fill my baitcaster with fluorocarbon line for crankbaits or should it be mono with a fluorocarbon leader?
i use braid on lipless cranks when fishing submerged grass would you say that is a exception or still no braid?????
For those without a bunch of setups that are always running braid- can you get away with a flouro leader and get the same benefits?
Come on Brian I use braid on, no just kidding. You are right on point. Thanks man.
Good tips bro but what does it mean when your ChatterBait is just spiraling and floating to the top when you reel it not thumping at all?
That squarebill looks AWESOME!
Lost one on a crankbait weekend on a braid to fluro leader. Thanks for the help!
So what setups should you be running braid? Is there a video on that?
"OK Darryl " 😆 🤣
I'm going to try out braid with a fluro for trout. Just 8 pound braid with 6 pound leader. Doesn't sound like I'll have the majority of the problems you are talking about.
That explains alot.. 👍
Are you able to use soft plastics on braid
Man I feel attacked… #BraidedLine4Life
Omg lol 😂🤣
😆😆😆 bruh your name is literally lil Darrel 😂😂😂
@@BrianLatimerFishing he made his account 1hr ago! 🤣
@@BrianLatimerFishing hahaha I just made the account to do this.
Love your content. Wish you had put this out yesterday. I'm a bank fisherman. I got a new square bill and tied it on this morning. 20lb braid. 2nd fish was bout a 3 pounder and it was skin hooked lost at my feet. Lol You're a pro and I am not. You and others have taught me so much. Thank you and keep on keeping on.
Crank baiting with braid is my favorite. If you want some stretch learn to tie a fg knot and use a leader.
What are your thoughts on braid to leader?
You can use braid for crankbait if you had a good crankbait rod.
do you spool up the whole reel with fluoro or is braid to a fluoro leader alright?
Yo Brian thanks for the MTB tip
B-Lat, what did that spinnerbait do to you?
Just kidding. Thanks for the information.
Great content always.
I have used exclusivly braid since spider wire came out. I like it because it doesnt hold memory that causes knots. I use mono leader for my crappie and bait and weight setups were the line isnt moving to give it a little camoflage. Do to lack of stretch when using chatter and spinner baits it gives me a positive set without having to jerk the thing through and out of the fishes mouth. I always switch out the cheap hook on cheap lures. I find the more expensive lures have thicker and stronger hooks. But each of us have our own opinions and people should do as they want and not follow anyone on youtube. Heck people were using braided line long before monofilament came around as fishing line as we know it now wasnt invented until plastics.
What pound test should I get?
Love the video
Please don’t tell the fish in Oklahoma, because I mainly use braid, and each if those lures work extremely well. I use Rapala Sufix 832 40 lbs equivalent to10 lb mono. My urban water fishing spot is loaded with moss. I got tired of losing big bass in the moss. So I went over to braid and it solved my issue. Also, for chatter bait, I kept losing fish, so I use a treble hook as my trailer. That too eliminated lose of fish. I don’t fish lakes, were I can see where your coming from, however in heavy mossy water, I will always prefer braid.
Braid is a nightmare on walking baits and poppers when tied directly. Also anytime you are flipping wood jig or texas rig braid can dig in to the wood and even if you are a guy that is a braid to floro the knot is never a perfect length from lure. Too close and the knot gets jammed into the wood too long and the knot is always messing with you when you flip/pitch.
You need to practice more and sharpen your skills
I haven’t tryed it yet! 🤔 Mystery Box!
Would I be fine with braid and a fluoro liter?
I just purchased some of the Illusion Diamond line in 16lb test mono. What is it that you like about this line? Please advise,thanks Henry
Illusion is really good mono. I used this fall fishing around oyster bars and barnacles. It’s much better in those situations than fluorocarbon
I am Darryl, but I am not “Darryl363”….. just clarifying! 🤣
I also don’t use braid on top water walking spooks or poppers. Braid gets wet and always ends up messing up the walking motion of the treble hook top water baits. Straight fluorocarbon for me. Braid flipping and pitching and a frog that’s about it lol
B Lat... Is Mystery Tackle Box for Bass anglers only, or can they be configured for the fish specific fishermen/fisherwoman? Crappie, Bluegill, etc.?
I use straight braid on all shallow diving crankbaits. Set the drag right and you will never have an issue. One of the greatest crankbait fisherman ever, David fritz, use nothing but braid on all of his crankbaits! Fishing cover the bait gets down quicker with braid being there's no stretch vs fluoro with the stretch the bait is gone from the cover by the time is gets down! Just what works for me!
David Fritts does not use braided line on crankbaits 🤣.
Can I use braid with a leader?
Braid with a spinner works fine but you have to prep R-Bend Spinner baits like he shows. Just use braid to wrap a heavy loop to change that R bend into a closed loop. Then the bait will not bend like he shows. Also braid definitely is way more sensitive and you can feel every limb bump, fall bump, and or when a fish strikes the baits
I agree with this video. 💯
I've been phasing out braid altogether on my combos, mostly because I'm tired of dealing with leaders (never used straight braid before). I'm going straight mono on everything now.
Yeah Darrel! 😂
I’m a bank fisherman I put straight braid on everything 😂
Only i used braed line for froggs heavy pads iused for top waters lures
Great content Brian, thanks. Just for clarification, are you saying to not use braid at all with these 3 or would a 6' leader of flouro counter the negative effects of braid?
I will put a 15' leader... So I don't have to re-tie
Use a mono leader trilene xl 8 to 15 lbs depending, the stretch is your friend and the fish dont see any difference between mono and fluorocarbon its just marketing bs. Mono is more abrasion resistant and better knot strength as well. And wayyy cheaper lol.
@@austinh9389 biggest benefit of flouro? Doesn't get wrecked by sunlight.