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Underwater Visibility Test of Braided Fishing Lines
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2018
- We've compared different color monofilament and flourocarbon lines but today we wanted to compare braided lines. We put white, blue, yellow, red, orange, and green 40 lb braided lines on our testing rig and went underwater. We performed this test in both clear ocean water and in dark pond water. We also tested what color of braid line was the easiest to see above water in case you are looking for a good high vis line.
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Great research but my dilemma is that you base the line visibility with the human eyesight...what about the fish's perspective??
What is visible or invisible to the fish?
Up here on the Susky river in PA I pick black or silver it matchs all the tires or beer cans in the water.
Lol That's one way to blend in!
Dang Steelers fan 🤣
That's why us marylanders don't want you down here fishing our waters. Sad but true
You could do yellow too...the water around 3 mile Island might glow...lol.
Yeah just wrap around that tire and hook it cause that’s the biggest fish in the pond/lake 😂
Whatever these know-it-alls comment is irrelevant to me. It was very nice to see what these different types and colors of line looked like in both clear AND dark water. Not just your average throw together video and I for one applaud you for making it. What do the fish see? Don't know. But at least now I know what it looks like. Thanks and good fishing to you my friend!!
Thanks man! Good fishing to you as well!
@ACF 47 likes on my comment. Show me a video with the scientific evidence of which you speak. Maybe myself and others will put a like on that too. Until then I'm happy with my green mono line for bass in fresh water, especially after seeing this video.
I got nervous about the green until you brought it to freshwater. I mainly do bass fishing so this was a weight lifted.
right? on a texas rig I bet it's the best.
Dominik Wilson yeah the only time I’ll use anything other than braid is when I’m fishing Uber-pressured water
Same, I'm out here in Arizona and fish only lakes with lots of green foliage. Makes a lot of sense to go with the dark green line.
Great video... I just do dark green braid on my spool then whatever color of Mono or Fluorocarbon leader I need for the desired water I'm fishing in... And knowing where that transition proves helpful when bring a fish to the surface for getting it in the net...
Thanks for doing the pond test. That was super helpful and exactly what I was looking for. 👍
blackwings03 thank you!
You know I have no idea what fish see and I have no idea if they see all colors, but this has to be one of the best, smartest and affordable videos I have ever seen. Well made video RH! I really appreciate your efforts. Thank you.
Danny Velasquez Thank you! I'm glad you liked it
I love how you did the different water tests because i fish fresh and salt water
Thanks! Yeah I was curious myself how they would look.
real cool video...ive been thinking about running flouro leader on my powerpro 10lb moss green for freshwater..been killin it for 10 years on it...to me best braid out there hands down...but seeing that kinda confirms why i wound up with that line for what i do...now you just need to compare brands and your training will be complete pattawon
I agree with Dale's comments below. I started fishing in 1957, believe me, we used just about everything, and anything to cat fish. We fish Deep River, a river in Indiana.... boy we had a ball catching one of the best fighters "CARP"..... you get into a 20-30 pounder, you'll have fun! I Fished Alaska, out of Juneau for 5 years, at our Island home in American Samoa. Both AK & AQ, I used the same both Blue and Green Line.... never had a problem. Sometimes I used a Fluorocarbon leader 6-8', and sometimes none.... I not really sure of color meaning much, when fishing more that 10 feet, because I got my 1st Halibut at 77ft., it was a 152 pounder....... I was using a GREEN weed Eater Line as a Leader VERY, VERY strong! Basically, I think between about 5' and further down color deminhes RAPIDLY ! Remember, from a HUMAN prospective that is.... we need LIGHT in order to see COLORS! What a fish can see is ???? I believe if there feed or hungry, they'll bite, if there not,,,, then there very picky of what they'll take. I have used Stright Hi-Vis Yellow and have caught Stripers, Salmon, and Catfish........ so does COLOR REALLY MATTER? Not as much to me.
Great idea, and thanks for taking the time to test, and show it
Great info, I mostly fish lakes near reeds and green foliage so good thing I went with the dark green line. Thanks.
That was a great test I really appreciate it that brought things into perspective we hear a lot about it but with the comparison that you did it was spot-on.
sirron bailey Thank you!
Could just be me but I felt yellow in the first test was probably the hardest to see or should have been in top 3. Also best for me to see out of water. I'm going to give it a try this year. Thanks for the test!
Glad I came across this! Been thinking this for months. Thanks buddy!
FoxUNSC I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Thank you, your efforts are alot of help. I am no expert, I found that throughout the season, dark green will turn lighter if you cast alot, 832 coating for example. Maybe a new video ? After break in, just saying
I've fished in super clear salt water with green braid, and it gave me no problems.... I actually caught decent size fish. 🎣🐟 🐟 🐟 🎣
thanks for doing the comparison....always good to learn new stuff!
Thanks James!
That was very helpful, thank you for posting
I use neon yellow with a drk greencamo leader or steel leader in most of my trolling stuffs as I do it at night with UV lights to help attract bugs to the waterline and can keep eyes on my kit without needing bright lights to kill my vision under moon/star light. In the daytime I use the drk green/camo and a steel leader to make swapping lures faster as I at best only carry 3 rods and one is just for crappy with light line and fly jigs.
Very cool test... because we love using the white and yellow braids
Thanks! What kind of fishing do you do?
Cool test. I'm using yellow and from your tests it seems ok for my situation in FL. However I might change to white in the future.
I appreciate the test and it was well done. I hope I can point out a couple of things for information, without sounding critical. As light passes through water, it gets filtered out. Some wavelengths (colors) get filtered before others. Red is the first to drop out. A lot of people wonder why any fish is red, because it seems like it would make them stand out to predators. It's because the deeper you go, the less red light there is, so they are harder to see. An object "looks" red because it is reflecting (mostly) red wavelength light. If there is no red wavelength light present, they can't reflect it. The "color" of the water also acts as a filter for certain wavelengths, as you rightly observed. That all gets complicated by the fact that at different times of the day, the spectrum of available light changes.
The other thing is that fishes' eyes work differently than human eyes. All experienced fishermen know that polarized glasses drastically change what they can see in the water. Experienced photographers know that using a polarized filter can drastically alter what their camera "sees". Many fish seem to be more/less sensitive to light in certain parts of the spectrum. Like frogs, many appear to have a hard time seeing things that aren't moving. Is that the eyes, or the brain that is programmed to specifically see movement and ignore things sitting motionless?
It's a pretty complicated subject, and there are no silver bullet type of answers. Your test is one more piece of knowledge for a fisherman to put in his/her toolbox. Personally, I don't think line color has too much impact on success catching fish, outside of something like trout fishing in a shallow, clear river or stream. If you use a fluorocarbon leader, I think the line color rarely matters much at all.
red is the first color to fall off BUT whos to say it falls to a clear versus a dark color? when a color loses pigment it looks black and not clear so wouldn't red technically get "darker" the deeper you go? i catch way more fish on red jigs versus blue jigs in deeper water. hence my theory
This was a great test thank you for your time.
sirron bailey Thanks!
To sum up
If tou want to see your line and have high stealth at the same time use:
Blue: for ocean and open water
Green: for ponds
If you don't care about line visiblity use:
White: for highest stealth in open water only
Great tes!
Thank you very much sir.
AWESOME TEST! THANX from Idaho!
Thanks man!
Amazing video and experiment! Kudos
Thanks! Ponds are dark or stained from tannins (like tea) from decaying leaves. I use 15 or 20 lb dull dark green braid with no leader and catch more bass than anyone at my favorite lake. It seems to camouflage really well in the tea colored water, algae, and weeds. Plus I have a theory that thin braid cutting through the water is felt and heard less and thicker mono/fluoro in the same lb test by a fishes lateral line. Fish use their lateral lines and hearing since sound travels better in water than in air. Thin line is always better, so braid is all I use now. It is so strong that I never have fish break off and I can free lures with thin wire hooks by pulling (line wrapped 6 times around a dowel to prevent packing the spool). With jigs I can tell exactly what the bottom is made of and can detect subtle bites due to the low stretch and high sensitivity of braid.
Nice video. Now I´m sure the dark green is the right one for me.
Great video. Thanks for the info.
Thank you for your effort, that's what I was looking for.
Glad it helped!
If you guys come across a maxima chameleon get them. I found a 300yd 20LB spool at a local thrift shop and been using it for my leader. I did a comparison between that and a seaguar red label fluorocarbon and I was surprised. I can still see the seaguar at about 5 feet deep and that chameleon just disappeared. This was done on a lake with brownish green water
What about black ?
I was in a saltwater canal , it seem dark , but the white fireline stood out A LOT , and I notice the fish really didn't bite the bait either , but when night time I switch over to a black line and they strike the bait , because the line was way harder to see at night and in the dark water
Thank You , yes you were very helpful 👍🏾 keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Nice video. Straight to the point and no nonsense! New subscriber here.
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Perfect thanks!
Great idea and presentation. Thumbs up.
Thanks!
Most often a leader will be used in mono or fluorocarbon so I don’t think the braid color should matter that much. From the test it looks like the leader would be more visible than the main line braid. We normally fish for stripers and hybrids using 100% fluorocarbon. So I think I’m going to go with the green braid since the water color is a brownish color and a fluorocarbon leader.
Thank you! I am just about to buy a 1500 meters braided line then I your video helps a lot.
Thanks, glad it helped. If you liked it we would appreciate if you share it with others too!
Thanks bud very cool vid.
dont matter any braid line in you spool !!!
you need to do ... use flourocarbon leader &
FG knot !!!
🧨🧨🧨🧨🧨Bummm !!!
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Nice job, thanks.
great info tnx
Thank you!
Enjoyed the show. Salt water guys seem to give a lot more honest appraisal of line. I always feel like the bass guys are just trying to sell you the most expensive fluorocarbon lines.
I have reels spooled with moss green, blue, hi-vis Yellow and even multi-coloured Braided line and they ALL get me results. Recently was gifted a Penn Pursuit III 8000 reel and wanna spool that one up with 80lb Red Power Pro Braid for jigging at 500feet...Lets see how that one works!!! Nice Vid..simple test and good results.
Thank you!
I fish both dirty and clear water. Looks like the blue braid was the happy medium the whole way across?
Great information, thanks!
No problem!
Please can you do Leaders lines and the different kinds, Good video Thanks
Great video 👍
Blue line is my go to. Works well in clear and dark waters.
Thank you for making this.
No problem!
This is very helpful!
BigRedBass thanks!
I use only multicoloured and the shock leader from Seaguar, monofilament or fluorocarbon, depend on kind of fishing
Thanx Captain
Great video bud.
This test is gold! Real test with hard FACTS, not just a Pro Staff BS talk...
Thanks, glad you liked it!
I realize that this video is 3 years old. However,I have only recently found it.
White makes sense. I'm also a king fisherman and I'm going to try something unusual. I mostly run double pogie rigs in tournaments. I'm going to spray paint my leaders with a flat/ non glossy white spray paint. It just makes sense. Looking into the water,I'm sure it will look bad. Looking up from under the water,we'll, we shall see. May even break it up by spraying a touch of very light blue. I've seen videos of live baits underwater where the fisherman was using black hooks. Stood out loudly. Perhaps,just perhaps the creator added patterns or spots in order to help predators find the prey. Pogies have their spots. A contrast if you will. We automatically assume that how hooks,lines,leaders come out of the package are great. Maybe there is room for improvements in this area. As always,love yalls videos. Awesome watching your sis catch that smoker in the tournament!
I fish mainly for wild rainbow trout in crystal clear water in the Canadian Rockies. A few weeks ago I came across some Nanofil (my fave braid) in 2 lb white. Prioe to this I had been using 2-6 lb braid, mostly Power Pro, and mostly green since the selection these past few months has been terrible. So I tried the white.... wow. It made sense to me that on overcast days the white should be very hard for the fish to see against the mostly white sky. I normally catch (and release) my limit (4) or better, but white braid on overcast days doubled and tripled my typical catch even though I was presenting the same 6-9' fluoro leaders and 1/32 - 1/5th oz spoons and microjigs, mixed with slow-walking nightcrawlers, etc. The white braid is amazing on a bright but overcast day. And as for blacj hooks... as sunset approaches and the sun finally disappears behind the mountains, mainly small black spoons and spinners are killers... fished near the surface they offer great contrast against the twilight sky.
You should do the lake/stream version of this
The video is very useful shows great information , I need to ask you a question , do you think assist hooks which is used for jigs are better to tie with white color thread ?
He did say that the line colour is unimportant. Colours under a few metres of water cannot be seen as one by one their wavelength is absorbed by the water. It will make no difference what colour you use.
Thinking about making a walleye rod needed this vid
Glad it helped!
I know this video is ancient but thanks for making this I learned a lot.
Thank you!
Did you test the quattro line with 4 different colors? Thanks
Awesome video with good to know info. The real question tho is how it looks to the fish.
Hello I’m a new subscriber to your channel and this is the first video I seen. I would like to ask a question if I may. I bought some dark green braid line so I could have some color and style to my rod and reel, would it do good in a lake?
Can u do suffix advance copolymer and flourocarbon to see the difference in visibility
Why not just do it yourself you seem to already have that kind of line handy
Thanks
Thanks, man!
Amazing, guess I'm switching to white braid!
My only issue was finding it lol. Most of the shops around me didn't carry heavy enough white.
I wish they would make black-colored floro and mono lines.
I want to try dying them but, I will probably just damage the line into breaking though
They do now I believe
what people insist that fish see things and colours like humans or are more worry when some colours are for instance near the bait. Can you explain with the study you did?
This is a great video!!!!
Thank you!
Great video.......... I usually fish 🐟 rivers.....so green it will be most of the time.......from now on.
Thanks!
Great job nailed it
Nathan Pierce Thanks!
Also some of the best bait colors involve white. I'm not a fish but I'm sure the white to us that disappears actually causes a harsh shadow appearance to the fish.
I would like to see what fish see when they are feeding up with sun and with clouds. I am curious about the best color for a frog, my theory is that blue would be best.
That would be a good theory to test out!
Hey great job on the video i know this video is with braid would this also be the case with mono of the same color thanks
There is also a video with mono
It is frustrating when the presenter talks a while about the first video he made being about mono colours and the tests he did with them and then you ask about mono!
why didnt you try the gray braid ,, its the color that the companys say low vis on ?
so...the fish see the same way as us? Different animals see different kind of color, inst it?
Good job mate
Thanks!
👍🏼
Have you checked out the camo styles yet?
nice one thanks.
Thanks!
Very informative
Thanks Jared!
This folds up relatively small and extends out to a good length. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxphFK7ETiDP5G4IGsNcg7vbASDp_YfDpI I would warn that while it folds down to a convenient size, it's still a bit too large to fit into my tacklebox, which I think is a pretty "normal" size. I guess a hardcore fisherman might have a hardcore box that's larger than mine, but for the typical once-a-year fisherman like me, it will have to be carried outside the box.
Are you on the right channel?
I asked a black marlin friend of mine and he said he cant see colors
Hey bud do You not use a leader at all with your braid?
hey bro YOU presented a quality video me watching in INDIA & I have a similar video but with no technology being used...KEEP PRODUCING VIDEOS AS YOU GO ON...GREAT JOB.
Thanks man! That's cool that found my video all the way from India!
Indian but in the states... 😘
Always great content 10/10
Thanks!
Are fish able to see in color? I always thought they might be color blind.
and the steel leader you add to it.
Berdasarkan pengalaman saya, ikan tak peduli pun dengan apa colour untuk line anda.bunyi pada lines dalam air yang mudah membuatkan ikan takut untuk mendekati umpan.maaf yer.. Ini hanyalah pandangan saya. Salam dari malaysia. Anda yang terbaik. Pls translate from malay to english. Tq
If fish will avoid your bait because they can see the line will they avoid it because of the array of treble hooks hanging off it's belly?
Do we see the same way fish do?
thanks
No problem!
Thanks!
No problem!
how about lime green....that colour can be visible in sea water? or that colour make the fish see the line and not bite the lure
We had a bright yellowish color line similar to lime green and it was hard to see looking up towards the sky like if it was being trolled. Worse case though is to just add some flouro leader if your dealing with finicky fish.
For flathead catfish?
I use the high viz yellow and never had any problems catching
My question is and will always be, do fish know what line is? And, do fish care if a line is attached to what they are eating? My dad says trout can see the line so he uses the smallest 2lb test mono he can get for trout and catches the crap outta them. But I’ve seen guys using 10lb test line catching trout as well. So idk 🤷
It would be cool to see what a fish sees
What’s the best braid line to use?
What application are you using the line for? For example, I like diamond fishing line, 130lb hollow core for my Wahoo rods.