Ram Rebel Air Ride Issues | Service Air Ride Suspension | Fuse or Compressor check.
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- It finally happened, the dreaded "Service Air Suspension" error message popped up on the 4th gen Ram Rebel. This truck has the 4" BDS suspension lift kit installed so that means NO WARRANTY work from the dealer, so were gonna attempt to fix this ourselves. If you have any suggestions, leave them down below in the comments!!!
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I fixed mine after not listening to the dealer. It was driving and my warning came on. Made it home, by the time I made it home, my rear driver side was down to the bump stops. Dealer wanted to replaced the valve solenoid and the compressor... I said no, that makes no sense, cuz the airbag still fills up or attempts to fill up until the compressor overheat sensor kicks in and the service air compressor warning comes in again. I ended up replacing the airbag; I went with arnott suspension because they warranty their products for life. And all was good until winter time in Canada. Then warning light came on again. This time I put in a bit of airline antifreeze; the same stuff truckers use. You put it in via the air intake for the system which is in behind the passenger side brake light. All is well so far. No issues, no warnings. Oh and after I replaced my airbag I went to the dealer and refilled the system with nitrogen.... It uses a closed loop nitrogen system to fill and empty your airbag, unless there is a leak in which it was draw in air until pressure gets too low and warning comes up again. This is no good in Canadian winters due to moisture so the airline antifreeze is highly recommended.
That’s awesome! Good job on the fix!! I’d be lying if I said my issue has been resolved. Kinda scared to really fuck with it as this point since it’s still driveable lol
Check out Invictus LLP, Calgary. Class action on this filed Sept. 2020. Still taking claims, in progress
liking that steering wheel👍👍😎!
Yeah the air ride is a fickle broad. I started having issues when it started getting super cold where I live. Question I have the other speedo they offered or did the ram rebel those years only have one style of speedo cluster or did they come with 2 options
Will be there any problem also with the coil suspension lift kit ?
AEV lift on my 17 rebel. Zero issues (knock on wood). Keep us posted on the fix.
I got this once on a Grand Cherokee after an extremely cold stretch of weather in Western Pa, turned out to be the fuse. Probably due to the fact that the system isn’t sealed, which isn’t a bad thing. Without a dryer it would be almost impossible to keep moisture out.
Check fuses #5-#50-and #87. Mine were not seated all the way in. Make sure they are seated. My service air suspension error light went away.
Did changing the fuse let it rise and lower? Or no?
There should be more than one fuse for the air ride. Did you check them all? Also might need to unconnect the battery. I saw a couple videos where they took out the small 10amp yellow fuse in front of the one you took out. And by that is a relay for the compressor. Good luck
Try putting the exact same fuse you took out go to the auto parts store or order one online but put the exact same one you pulled out the longer style one not the short ones you got. If that doesn’t fix it then you have a short. One big reason I got coil overs on my Rebel I didn’t want to deal with that air ride suspension stuff!
My 2017 ram 1500 was doing the same exact thing ,I just took one of the 40 amp fuses from a different location and swap it out and it worked just fine. And the fuse I swapped is good, I put some electrical greece on the connections.
Seems like a majority of the time it’s a fuse issue.
was your 17' just Defaulting to the "Normal" Ride Position??
How would it work at all with a blown fuse
@@davidfernandez3700 It wasn't a blown fuse the fuse was not making sufficient contact So it needed to be replaced.
I just wasted 8 minutes watching u change a fuse. Lol and you went to the dealership to get it then drove home before you put it in. Lmfao good shit right there, good shit.
Thanks for the view homie
My 2017 ram 1500 was doing the same thing it said, service air ride system. Come to find out all it needed was a new car battery after replacing my battery everything is fine and back to normal, apparently it has a very sensitive electrical system to low voltage.
That’s good info to know!!
My 16 rebel with the 4" bds lift is at the dealer for the "rebel lean" they replaced the front driver airshock and I guess the compressor went out aswell and on top of that the rear shock absorbers were torn apart after a tire shop had the truck on the lift without tire Jack mode on. I think after the warranty expires I will do the coilovers!!!
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Check out Invictus LLP class action lawsuit on the issue!! Canada only
Be honestly with you, I live California, Sacramento, I have 2018 rebel with air ride, also I do the BDS lift kit about a year ago but for last two month Dec. and Jan. is little cold temperature at night time, about 45F, in the every morning I start the truck, the air suspension light will pop up on dash, and I can't not do adjustment low and high anymore, I need turn off and turn on couple times to let it go back to normal if I'm lucky. This month the air suspension is ok, I guess the temperature is not very cold anymore? But if let me choose, I won't ever buy the truck with air suspension any more
maybe you could disconnect the battery for 10min, some time is work
If you are having this issue in Canada, there is now a class action. Look at Invictus LLP, Calgary.
Is your service electronic breaking system on also? My service electronic breaking system and service air suspension system messages came on from swerving to miss a big pothole.
yes both messages are on, I also can't use my cruise control nor can I adjust the ride hight. What did you have to do to resolve the issue? Thanks!
Wimya I have not got mine fixed yet. My service message is on too. I took it to the dealer and they told me it wouldn’t be covered under warranty and since there is 3 messages it would take 3 hours to diagnose the problem @ $165 an hour. Then $165 an hour for who knows how many hours to fix it. I told them to get bent. When I get a chance I’m gonna take it somewhere and have it put on the computer and see what’s up. Hopefully it’s nothing to major and I can repair myself. Also my 4 wheel drive won’t engage but there isn’t a message up for that.
My cruise still works but my ride height won’t work either.
Yea that sounds exactly the same as what went down with me and my dealer as well. Wanted to charge me an arm and a leg for diagnosing / fixing but also said they couldn’t promise they could resolve the issues.
I did find a blown fuse. It was F77, it did cure the service electronic breaking system but now there is two messages for the 4x4 system. Air suspension system message is still up also. Looks like it could be a wormhole.
I have a 2016 rebel that did the same thing 2 years ago i took it to the dealer and luckily it was a fuse but the hole front end was dropped almost rubbing my front tires it was bad
Hi, how much did it cost to fix?
My truck was all the way down i took it to the dealer a couple times and they were saying that it was the airbags but i was sure that the air bag were ok . I took it for last time and i told them to check the lines , and yeah it was the issue with the box next to the compressor , the compressor was pumping air but that little box wasnt distributing the air to the lines ... and i had to pay 2200 to get it fix and now its just perfec..
It's going to happen again. If not your lines, then your air bags, or the compressor, or the fuse, or something in between. Garbage fucking quality. If you don't have warranty on it prepare to shell out $10,000/yr for repairs. Ask me how I know.
you said it was not going into aero mode but that was fixed..that's my issue currently. how did you fix that?
Mechanic reset the sensors with their computer along with new fuses.
Also looking how to upgrade my BDS 4” converting to coil overs
Blake Pollon if you come across any info please share it with me. I talked to a tech at BDS but they weren’t much help. They just wanted me to deal with one of they’re licensed dealers/shops
There’s a tool (yellow top) in the fuse box that you use to pull out the fuses. You don’t have to use pliers.
Lol I’m aware. I always have a pair of needle nose in my work truck. It’s much easier.
You gotta post a video when you decide on switching your air suspension into coils.
Yea I’ll deff be making a video highlighting what needs to be done and what parts need to be purchased. Hopefully I’ll pull the trigger on all the parts soon
My air ride just started going out today. wont do anything, the lights just blink and it says raising or lowering perpetually. pretty sure I am in entry mode when I have to drive it since this happened tonight. warmer day than previous days being in the teens, today was in the 50s
Damn that’s a bummer!! 🤬 try putting it in transportation mode sometimes that forces it to raise
I got a red and black 2016 rebel now
Sorry about your air ride troubles man, I hope that doesn't happen to my rebel, I've been thinking about getting the bds kit but i might opt for the coil overs honestly to lift it and ditch the air ride. It was super cool when I first got the rebel but its definitely lost its charm and the fact that it makes everything stupidly expensive to modify is another reason to ditch it not to mention i had to put a kill switch on it to keep in off road mode over 25mph (not for highway use obviously but just for some 35mph cruising down the beach etc.) Anyhow good luck with it. P.s. what steering wheel is that? That looks gnarly af. My 18' rebel steering wheel does not look like that at all lol
Yea I totally agree with you, I thought the air ride was really cool when I first got it. Never had any issues with it in the 3 years of ownership so I guess it was my time lol. I’m doing some research on retro-fitting coilovers onto the BDS kit. The steering wheel is made by Carbontastic. I post two videos on it if you wanna see some more info.
The Real Schuyler Martin hey man where did you get that kill switch to stay in off road mode?
@@Wimya I'll look into your other videos on the wheel, looks awesome. My rebel is the delmonico red so the interior is all black. Hopefully they have a black edition style. I might email your or something in the future, talk rebel problems lol! Thanks for replying good luck with the air ride fix. Hopefully it doesn't cost more than a mortgage payment
@@sosavic I haven't seen anything available on the market and it will certainly void your warranty. You have to design a simple circuit fused on the send and return for protection. It will essentially disable the air ride and lock it into any mode you want. Look up on RUclips about removing the fuse for the air ride system. That will get you started in the right direction. I'm not liable for anything that happens to your truck though. Lol
The Real Schuyler Martin oh I hear ya... def not going to try haha just curiosity... not sure I’m even keeping mine now if I can’t plug and play the new uconnect 5 coming out. Sucks my flagship 12” screen is already obsolete
I just disconnected my battery for an hour, and I was able to get it to reset. Whew!
Call BDS they have lawyers specifically to talk to the dealerships telling them the BDS lift does not void the warranty and the dealership WILL fix it in the long run for free.
I’ll give it a shot. I doubt they’ll do anything right now with all this BS going on but it’s worth a shot. Thanks.
Where did you get that steering wheel, and how much?
$1000 Carbontastic.
I have a 2014 laramie code comes up only in the mornings and drains the battery you guys have any idea?
Same here. I’ve been getting the low voltage message in the morning for a past few weeks. I was thinking the suspension might have been the cause of that.
I also have a 2014 Laramie Limited, and mine says immediate air suspension service required and my front parking sensors are on and off! Dealership said I need to replace my air suspension module...?
Your fuse blew for a reason, air pump motor pulling to much current? I would start at my fuse and work back that truck was alot of money and you paid for that air suspension ,if you had ten years on it i would say switch to coil over.
Damn air ride 😩😩
Yeah, mine is a Jeep GC and it’s been a nightmare. No air ride EVER again.
Hello friend, excuse me, how to fix the suspension of your truck for mine, it came out the same and I did not change or drop
I have a 2016 dodge ram rebel and the service air suspension came out and I did not shoot to raise or lower it, I just raised it 4 inches and the next day it no longer raised or lowered as you were to fix the tulle
@@fernandosanchez9883 Hey brother! Im actually gonna be posting a video today or tomorrow of way to fix the air suspension so deff watch it when its live! But I would start by checking the fuse (F5) and also checking in the suspension section of your setting on the apps page.
OK thank you very much
Just had to take mine 2018 Rebel back to th dealership for th same thing. Turns out it was a fuse & a bunch of parts that were recalls
Yikes!! Hopefully it’s all covered for you then since there were open recalls. The air suspension can be a real nightmare
Just got this message yesterday unfortunately
I take mine to a really good Diesel Machanic...
Good idea, they are typical “better” suited mechanics.
what steering wheel is that?!
Carbontastic ruclips.net/video/NMQFN82Ow-8/видео.html
you sure that the fuse clipped in and it is not just sitting above it. because it was a short fuse. need an oil change also. lol
Joseph O'Donnell yea, unfortunately the fuse was seated correctly and still no fix. FML lol
DOES ANYONE KNOW IF AIRSUSPENSION CAN BE REMOVED TO JUST A REGULAR SUSPENSION ON RAM rebel 1500 2017 ??
Yes it sure can. You will just have a “service air suspension” message on the dash once you do the swap.
Join the rebel group on Facebook, lots of guys have problems and some good solutions on there
eddymandiedie I’ve been in the group for 3 years lol. Majority of the people drop the truck off at the dealer and let them deal with it.
All the research I have done and growing up driving an 18 Wheeler, I bet your airbag has a leak. Probably need to replace your airbag.
Thanks for all the input it’s much appreciated! I got some homework to do.
So what ended up being the issue? I have the same exact issue with my longhorn. Please let me know, thanks!
I wish I knew brother still can’t be resolved.
Wimya hey man Check your trucks alignment. My truck had the same exact issue I just bought it and it needed an alignment really bad. Took it to get aligned yesterday and this morning all the lights were off. It’s worth a shot that’s what fixed it for me!
Hell yea bro, thanks for that info I’m gonna give it a shot!
Wimya for sure man go get it aligned I guarantee you that’s what’s wrong with it the lights will go away as soon as you align it
@@rokkero564 did it fix it for u
Hello, There is a very good possibility that the the short fuse you installed isn’t making any connection. Get the proper fuse. Also, typically when a 40 amp fuse blows it has blown for a reason! I’m guessing it’s the fuse for the compressor. Many questions that need to be answered!!! When did the lift kit get installed? Who installed it? With only 19,000 miles on the truck I’m willing to bet your guys that installed the Lift Kit have messed up your Air Suspension System! Get them to sort it out for you! Hope this was helpful.
So long story short…. The air valves BDS give you in the lift kit are not the best quality and started leaking. So the bag was constantly deflating causing the compressor to keep filling it and burning out the compressor.
@@Wimya That totally makes sense. Hopefully it hasn’t caused too much extra wear n tear on the pump. Although you did say the ride height was all good?! Keep us posted on your end resolve.
I saw you had a video of a mercedes c class. I used to have a 2013 c250 coupe. Did i just realise we both own mercedes, but switched to a 2016 rebel? Lmao
Nice!! I love MB’s. I had a c350 sedan, c350 coupe, and an e55. Been very tempted to pick up a c63S
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Did u reset the dash, To see fit it really did work
99% of the 18 wheelers you see on the roads have air ride on all axles some even on the steering axle most will go 1 million miles with no or very few issues,and if something does go wrong it's usually a simple air leak or the air dryer and worst case airbag the last one I bought was 200$ compressor 600$ . This is a total ripoff probably chinese made junk and very poorly designed.The last truck i had 700,000 miles when I sold it original air bags and compressor.
Disconnect the car battery for 10 minutes and then reconnect it
I wish it was that easy
Join the rebel group on Facebook, lots of guys have problems and some good solutions on there
What’s the name of the group ?