The BEST Modern Styles to Combine with Traditional Martial Arts W/ Ramsey Dewey
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- I get the question all the time from Traditional Martial Artists "What are the Best Martial Arts Style to Combine?" and for those who are looking for modern Martial Arts to take, Ramsey Dewey has the answers!! We talk about what Modern Martial Arts Style you should look into next if you take Taekwondo, Kung Fu, Kyokushin Karate, Sport Karate, and even Capoeira! These styles like WTF and ITF taekwondo are very kick heavy and do a great job closing distance in fighting.. but they need a few things! Much like Wushu Kung Fu, Kyokushin, WKF Karate and Capoeira need holes filled. Some Modern Styles we suggest here are Boxing, Freestyle Wrestling, Judo, Muay Thai and Kickboxing!!
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0:00 Intro
0:49 Taekwondo
3:23 Kyokushin
10:57 Capoeira
16:40 Sport Karate
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More Ramsey Dewey talks coming Saturday and Monday at 4 PM!
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I agree with your stances on kung fu. I personaly think it is a great marshellart to train in, but only if you know what real life combad is like. If you don't know how to fight in a real fight wushu becomes a dancing style instead of a marshellarts. Cause if you have never fought a real fight before they basicly learn you how to dance, but if you have you can use your new found skill and transulate them for combad as wel making them effectif. Sow I completly agree with you if your trained in kung fu do some kickboxing as wel then combine the 2 and you be flying around like a butterfly, blocking punshes left and right, while using all kind of uniek fighting technieks and basicly you become kind of kick ass. It will give you the space to actueely put your techniek to the test and you learn how to make them work in true combad. Instead of just performing a techniek you can use them on a actueel living enemy and that will make all the differnce in my opion.
Did a bit of Wushu in high school. Now study Muay Thai in my thirties. Can confirm that doing something where I get punched in the face was a good choice in my life.
Glad to hear you found the way! lol
Getting rocked every now and then is something I kinda look forward to. Otherwise, I'm totally stagnant.
I am studying Muay Thai in my fifties and really enjoying it.
I study Muay Thai too. As Tyson says everyone has a plan until you get punched in the face or in this case kicked in the leg.
That's messed up. Reading this after recently learning that Kung Fu means work ethic and Wu Shu means something like war fighting method.
Sensei Seth and Ramsey Dewey collaboration. Fantastic.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sensei Seth crossover issue of the year
Let’s goooo
Sensei Seth what age did you begin training your children?
Sensei Seth should definitely make the video about tma for mma
I love how these channels that I found separately are now collaborating together, and are open to talking about the weaknesses, without just bashing. Instead they point out flaws and how to improve.
Jesse, Sensei Seth, Ramsey, and Icy Mike. Awesome stuff.
Berengier817 thanks brother! All about getting better!
Because they're all actual martial artists, and as Ramsey often says, martial arts is the pursuit of the truth. There are notable exceptions, but if you're a real martial artist chances are you've been humbled plenty of times in sparring or competition. And if you can take a right hook to the chin or being thrown on your head, chances are you can handle some jokes and/or constructive criticism. Kwon Kicker, Rokas, and Rob from McDojolife are much the same way and have been involved in collaborations.
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And recently, Shinto Matthew with his Kalaripayattu!!
You should try out martial arts journey, armchair violence and Steven strangles people
I'm happy to see that FINALLY we're going forward and forward abandoning the classical scheme "muh style beats yours" and getting to the real point of mixing various styles.
Also there's this kind of fishing for the original purposes of many styles, forms, techniques and so on finding what was made up in the decades, we're approaching a new era of martial arts and i'm pissing my pants for the happiness
Hahaha happy to hear, sorry for your pants though
Muh mix beats yours
In 100 years there will be only one martial art. forget culture and tradition.If everybody cross trains, in time tradition wont mean anything, next they start getting rid of the kata,like they did in kudo karate. We will have one mut mix and probably call it mma. Damn mma swallowing up all the Styles and shitting on tradition hahaha. Styles will be defined only by the rules as a sport. Basically they will call it boxing or wrestling .wrestling will consist of juso freestyle sambo etc.. boxing karate savate muy Thai etc.
Hey, that's funny, my sensei teaches boxing and TKD. I feel boxing teaches how to approach and exit appropriately. And TKD helps with some different footwork.
Nice combo!!
That’s my original stand up combo
I love my TKD foundation to the bone. sliding in and out of range while simultaneously throwing kicks is an incredibly overlooked tool. the foot work in general is pretty sick
@@mardvkmedia3159 I feel like if taekwondo just incorporated leg kicks it would be so much better,I wish we had one day a week where we just did leg kicks.
@@periodic98 my dad actually teaches TKD, and his instructor allowed leg kicks when he was a kid (my dad I mean) they also taught a bunch of different punches as well. I heard that his instructor also made his class do knuckle pushups on concrete, cement, and other hard/rough surfaces. His knuckles are still hard as rock to this day
Capoeira hid the fact that it's a martial art from a white guy...so mission accomplished?
Hahaha pretty much!
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I thought that too.
Lol, brilliant
Capoeira was outlawed in Brazil for a long time.That's how you know a martial arts is badass.
Bwahahahahaha
I used to do Capoeira and i never thought about the comparison between wrestling and Capoeira. It totally makes sense once it was explained, mind blown.
I'm glad to have had a profesor who actually did take quite some time explaining how some moves would work for real, and in the roda we had plenty of takedowns happen. Not constantly because the comraderie aspect still made it that constantly throwing your partner to the floor would kind of mess up the flow and play, but if someone kept making themselves open, you'd drop them on their butts and pick em back up.
That said he actually did have a bit more of a focus on Angola though, and a lot of that is really close range and a lot of just snaking around each other, very low to the ground, very occasionally a kick or a strike but Angola is 100% about positioning yourself and not letting someone else into an advantageous position over you.
The same thing can be said about most Martial Arts, even Karate or Kung Fu. For example, sometimes what looks like a kick is actually a footsweep or hip throw. Compare a back kick to the Judo throw called Uchi Mata, for one example.
Dude is very knowledgeable
No doubt! Super smart!
He's the Sherlock Holmes of combat sports, HUGE brain!
nice to see the martials arts community coming together and creating great content
More to come Saturday and monday!
I wish I could see more of that in my community here in San Diego, but it seems everyone is closed off. They all want to stick to themselves and their disciplines and not associate with each other.
That capoeira/wrestling combination reminds me of the way Ryan Hall fights
There were a few former TKD guys that transitioned over to Muay Thai/Kickboxing and once they did, it really meshed well with it. Someone else said TKD is like ketchup, not too good by itself but goes well with other things.
I bet they did great
No
I'm going to steal that
A collab that doesnt result in Seth getting hit or bullied 😂
Hahahahahaha
@@SenseiSeth Hopefully we get the part 2
Yea!! Definitely will
Will you get hit in that one?
@@cahallo5964 If Ramsey manages to hit him all the way from Shanghai he's even cooler than I thought
Taekwondo and Boxing has been my "Muay Thai" For years, great duality. I wish there were a good selfdefense grappling based gyms or dojos nearby though.
Nice!! Good mox
Mix*
Same here that’s my main stand up
Combo with some added kick boxing and karate
Judo and wrestling is a good grappling combo, then you can add bjj as a mma enthusiast i see bjj as a complement.
I'm a Wushu guy and thanks to Sanda training, I've been punched in the face a lot (thankfully controlled mostly by trusted sparring partners)! It's been very educational in testing what works and what doesn't from forms! If we want to talk about fighting seriously, sparring is a must for Chinese martial artists, traditional or modern Wushu or otherwise! Also ACL tears are a huge problem in the sport of Wushu, both in Taolu (forms) and Sanda (sparring). We also need to evaluate our practices and training methods, then what we're doing wrong or what we're overlooking to find out what causes these kinds of injuries.
Thanks awesome! And yes, safe practices are key
Hey Sensei Seth, i originally trained in shotokan karate when i first got into university and then transitioned to judo. after some years in judo, due to some management problems the university lost their judo instructor so i ended up going back to karate. To my surprise i actually got BETTER at karate, not worst after years of exclusively training judo.
Awesome to hear!!
I never get tired of that intro. Also great video
Haha thats awesome to hear!! Thanks so much
As soon as he said add boxing to TKD I knew it was going to be good.
The collab I've been waiting for
thanks for waiting! lol
This is a fun one, and applies to me! I spent 8 years in TKD, got my 2nd degree black belt. Ive spent the last 4 years doing muay thai after I moved. I think in a couple years learning Judo would be a great addition.
God bless Ramsey Dewey for explaining the parts of Capoeira people rarely grasp unless they actually read the books about Capoeira self-teaching, and have had the luck of getting a good Capoeira master that teaches the full art.
I have been a fan of his for some time, and he never fails to point out things people now a days do not have the patience to learn but need to learn.
Awwww yeah! Ramsey is absolutely one of the best, most knowledgeable, well rounded martial arts instructor in the world I believe. Seth you're improving your RUclips game by the day
SUPER smart guy for sure!!
What he said about the BJJ and Capoeria crossover is very very true. Some of the baddest BJJ guys I've ever rolled with are UK based Brazilians who cross train BJJ/Lutre Livra and Capoeira, their speed, strength and flexibility is something else, and because a few BJJ takedowns are based on Capoeria ones those movements are drilled into their heads to the point of they are taking you to the ground. It made me wonder if i was doing the same sport as them, in all seriousness if you show up at a BJJ tournament and one of the guys there is doing a Capoeria warm up, you're going to be having a bad day.
Boxing+Judo is a can't go wrong combo for any traditional martial artist IMO. You can gain a lot from either one in a short time frame, you can gain a lot of general skill from both without needing to be amazing, and both will provide a different point of view on Karate, Kungfu etc. studies.
Boxing Judo is a dope combo
This is my style (well sambo but very similar) cant kick as well due to knee injury :(
So boxing and sambo for me
Yes yes I agree with that...I think it is a more solid combo
Currently training TKD & BJJ. They go really well together for me. Place I train at also teaches Hapkido & kickboxing. There is a lot of cross over in the training styles. So it ends up being a really well rounded place to train. They have added things like basic boxing drills into the TKD syllabus & takedowns. So much more than what you need to do wtf comp fighting.
This was so good...Capoeira stuff explained by Ramsey Dewey is fascinating....and i can see it being effective since it's a deceptive style!!
I loved that part
I can't believe 23 minutes went by so fast.. Need a part 2 now
There will be 2 more videos from this chat!
@@SenseiSeth hope on this same topic
I know right? Felt like 5 minutes.
My man Ramsey up in here
ayeee
I also think judo is a perfect addition to karate. There are also a lot of judo throws in karate that are not often practiced. Especially if you also practice newaza, judo+karate could be a really good base for mma
Kudo
Devil Kimura also Main on Judo but practise Gojuryu Karate also. Some JP MMA have those two arts as you though as well.
Practiced BJJ, and I never knew that side of Capoeira before, but now looking back at a lot of their movements, it makes sense......I thought that explanation was definitely insightful , very cool
This was a great video. No martial art is complete on its own. Even if you learn from someone who is a "complete fighter", they will teach you either what works for them or what they were taught. Neither is perfect to make you a complete fighter too. We are all built differently. Where is your center of balance? How long are your legs in relation to your arms? Your back? Do you have especially quick reflexes? How is your pain tolerance in various parts of your body that are good for absorbing impact? There are hundreds of variables that each person must explore for themselves -- the best way to do this is usually to learn as many styles as possible, and learn them well enough to sift through and find what works for you. If you are looking to get 80% of the way there quickly, this video is for you.
Ramsey Dewey got these spot on. Would love a part 2 💪💪
Man awesome discussion, hope you get more of these, perfect for the morning coffee. Interesting suggestion for kyokushin, with judo as you said it would be a 'complete' art, the ironshirt of kyokushin is highly respected and effective
Yes. Do part two. Enjoyable video Seth. Ramsey is pretty well versed across a fairly wide range of traditional martial arts and their history. Always good to hear his insights.
This was a great video! Please expand for judo, wrestling, boxing, MT, etc.
Ramsey is awesome!
Ramsey's the man. I've been following his channel forever. Super humble, funny, knowledgeable.
Guys keep up the good work. Can't wait for traditional martial arts update.
Omg I loved this. Im a writer and a mixed martial arts enthusiast so this exercise helps alot when I want to balance a character's fighting style. Im glad I get to hear other opinions on this concept.
It's good to see some of my favorite martial arts RUclipsrs joined together!
Sensei Seth does a great job! As also does Ramsey.
And, if I could ask a wish: make some stuff with Rokas Leo (martial arts journey).
This was a great video. I really enjoyed how it wasn't about bashing other arts but rather how to enrich and or build on those arts to be more effective. Always love hearing Ramsey's explanations as well. Good stuff
Love the intro. Best I’ve seen actually
Started with Taekwondo and moved over to Muay Thai. Get hitting in the phase was a hard but valuable time. I couldn't agree more with this.
Very well balanced talk gentlemen. I really appreciate the insight on capoeira. Dewy is bang on. It is clear that he has had a considerable amount of experience. Muito Axé! From a former ITF Tae kwon-do, shito Ryu Karate, capoeira contemporanea, and current sambo practitioner ;)
Great video.. one of the best fighters philosophers RUclipsrs and the RUclips teacher of kicks.
Love it.
The intros so satisfying; I love it
The lyrics of your intro precisely describes this collab. "Perfect".
You’re too kind! Thanks for watching. More to come!
That's really interesting about capoeira being wrestling because I started learing some this week and one of the first things I did on the heavy bag was go from a low leg kick into a rising kick and then I went for a body lock. It just felt right even though it wasn't part of the syllabus of movement. Knowing that it can be a useful wrestling tool make that instinct make so much more sense now.
I absolutely love this conversation.. awesome guys
Fantastic chat! Couldn’t agree more about Judo and Karate👍
hell yeah that was awesome I love both of your channels hard to hurt as well so hell yeah I would love to see a part 2
Sweeet! It’ll come soon 👍
I always love these discussions.I'm doing Kudo and Kyokushin now in Tokyo, with MMA fights and kickboxing matches set up to test ourselves(Pre-covid anyway). My background is Kyokushin ,Muay Thai and Judo in Hawaii. You guys got it spot on with this analysis. Kyokushin I feel will toughen you up more then most martial arts but you need to learn how to slip and dodge head punches. Combining it with the Muay Thai clinch and Judo throws, will compliment the Kyokushin aggression perfectly and train you to know how to deal with head punches.
Im 2 years into mauy thai but where can I find good kyokushin karate gyms.
Ramsey’s knowledge is brilliant
Excellent insights. Point Karate + Judo 100% agree. Love you guys =)
The collab I didn’t know I needed
Ayeeee
Train everything!!!
Really cool collaboration with two great content creators. More please.
More coming soon! Thanks bud
This was the best collaboration! Thank you 🙏🏾
Thanks for watching, Joe!
This is a hell of a video! Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. Especially the „wrestling in Capoeira“ bit blew my mind.
Yes, he’s a wise man!
Listening to this while washing the dishes made chores enjoyable lol. Part 2 please!
Working on it!
Excellent conversation! The analysis that both of you are bringing here is concise, but really deep. As someone who practiced Capoeira, hearing Ramsey say wrestling threw me for a loop. But hearing his explanation, it makes perfect sense. Also, trying to find the use of techniques in forms means a lot too. Hope to see more collaborations in the future!
Glad you enjoyed it!! More to come
My Sensei in Shotokan (we did point karate in tournaments) was also an olympic level judoka. This is why i always will look to fuse striking styles with grappling! love this video!
You guys collaborating is legit amazing
Hahaha I’m glad you liked it! More to come
ABOUT TIME! My two most watched Martial Arts channels in one video?! IS THIS HEAVEN?
Heck yesss
The Capoeira part was very interesting, never really realized the Whole Wrestling aspect
This was fascinating thanks dude. As an ITF tae kwon do guy I can 10000% confirm getting some boxing training helps massively as well as some Muay Thai. Getting some training in both really helped me become more well rounded.
Loving this collab!
Seth it is so great that you understand capoeira now I saw the rankings vid, and I was like what? Also love the videos, do more videos where you just talk about stuff I like that the best.
Thanks!!!
Kyokushin in my opinion a good hybrid to cross train would be judo just because a lot of kyokushin guys fight on the inside so much and are always fighting in the pocket so I think those slams and trips would come in handy to learn along with kyokushin techniques
Great collaboration, great video! Thanks to both of you
thanks for watching!
This was a pleasure to watch guys. Some really good insights as usual. I was a little surprised at the end with the Karate analysis and style paring. My background is in Hawaiian kenpo with a good deal of point sparring experience with pure karate guys. Our curriculum has a lot of judo take downs and aiki jujutsu in it. Point tournaments vary in rules of course, but to be clear, the WKF (what will soon be seen in the Olympics) does allow face shots and takedowns with a strike and it is light contact (as you stated). As someone who’s always reassessing my weaknesses and the holes in my game, I was surprised that Ramsey picked Judo. I’d say Judo is already heavily embedded in Karate, especially at the WKF level. All those guys are proficient in Judo. You will see tons of sweeps and trips, and tai otoshi take downs are a dime a dozen. You’ll even see o goshi and seoi nage. Anyway, I’m surprised being a wrestler and all, Ramsey didn’t pick wrestling, shoot fighting, or BJJ. To me it’s the ground game that seems to missing most in karate, and that’s the direction I’ve decided to head to become more well-rounded. Thanks for this interesting discussion that uplifted the value of each art and offered honest and balanced commentary! Oss!
Thanks Seth I been asking for this and once again you succeeded you and Ramsey are such nice guys all the best👍👍👍
He's an awesome dude for sure
Sensei Seth yeah after Corona do a collab with Jesse, Wonderboy, Icy Micheal and Faze Sensei👍👍👍😀😀😀🙏
I’d love to!!
Sensei Seth 👍👍🥋🤜🏻
Thanks bud!
Amazing! I think I misunderstood Dewey, he's most impressive and seems a total straight shooter. Great interview.
He’s a great guy
Very cool discussion, thanks for doing this.
Great video! I'm a big fan of Ramsey Dewey and hearing his input was great! As a traditional Kung Fu practitioner, I can say studying Boxing and Sanda changed my world! Also, I typically fight from a side stance because I'm a defensive fighter so it appears studying Judo was also the right choice! Thanks for the info, and you have a new subscriber! 🤜🏿🤚🏿
Ayeee, thanks so much for subscribing!
I feel like studying the other arts would benefit you into combining their strengths or main techniques into your own form of martial art.
Also, bodytype is also taken into account as not all body types can perform a spinning back kick or a high jump kick. I feel that depending on the body that you have you must adapt to your own form of martial art that feels comfortable.
Darth Vader would be a example as his form of lightsaber combat is Form 5. Its a powerful style which requires alot of strength to strike the opponent and perfect counter attacks against lightsaber and blaster. However, when his body became burned and crippled from the lavapit he wasn't able to perform high acrobatic jumps or move with blazing speed like he used to due to his prosthetics slowing him down. He ended up having to relearn every form of lightsaber combat from form 1 all the way to form 5. From that, he used his own variation of form 5 which is simple pin point attacks and powerful force abilities to end the fight as quickly as possible. He ended up surpassing his former self and became a skilled jedi hunter.
Moral of the story, a martial artist is just as good as the art he or she has developed on their own. Like a painter with their own unique style of painting or a writer with their own unique writing that bends and twists to their whim. I would just take the concept of other styles and integrate a different unique form of martial art.
You had me until you brought up darth Vader lol
Bad ass comparison 😎
Excellent point, find the best style (combo of styles) that works for YOU
Oohh yeaah, I knew ma boi Ramsey had to make a video with Seth at some point!
you know it!!
Yes!!!! Part to this was awesome!!!
Nice, thanks for getting Ramsey talking.
My background is Shotokan, Kenpo, and few other styles , I studied WTF Taekwondo to help me with my footwork, for kickboxing matches that I competed in while I was in College. I think it a good idea to blend styles and for each person to find what works for them with their body types.
Very kick-y background!
I think it's also important to remember what you're trying to get out of mixing styles, I've been mixing muay Thai with yang mian (kung fu) and I found it to be too rigid. I plan on swapping out the muay Thai for boxing tho
I really enjoyed this video it was very informative.
This was fantastic and so interesting!
It wasn't until a few years into training I realized how lucky I was that my WTF teacher included boxing in his classes. I made it even better for myself that at the same time I also started Judo. To be honest I don't know what it's like to only know one MA since I started my first two simultaneously.
Probably nobody noticed this, but your wrestling and karate sample videos both had Azerbaijan in it. Proud of my little country.
Do it! Great content guys!
Yes a part 2!! Surprised jiu jitsu wasn't talked about would've loved to hear that compliment
I think that'll be the first part of part 2!
I really like BJJ combined with Taekwondo because it makes you very free to kick
Very true! Takes away the risk of entry so much, I think punching prowess helps as much
Sensei Seth I agree. If you look at guys like machida and wonderboy, the combination is deadly
Love too see part 2
You got it!
I love hearing two people who does martial arts talk about martial arts I don't know if you have done a video about self-defense but can you do a video about which martial arts are the best self-defense thank you.
Gotcha gotcha 👍
It is, I think, not the art, necessarily, but how the teacher applies their art. So many claim to teach self-defence but do not have a clue.
Great video! I like the way capoeira was addressed too.
two of the finest!!
For wushu, I think that sanda is an obvious contender, as it fits in with the characteristics of kung fu striking (obvious reasons), but I actually think, assuming sanda is already a part of the program, that dutch kickboxing would be a good pair. It allows for the knees and elbows which are so often left out of sanda, despite being such big parts of arts such as baji, and emphasises striking for the purpose of knockouts, instead of the bad habits sanda can form with striking for points
There are already karate styles that combine kyoukushin with grappling such as Ashihara karate and Enshin Karate.
Nice!!
Ramsey hit the nail on the head with suggesting Judo to compliment WKF/WUKO style sparring. Back in my day, I had great success using uki goshi with follow up or harai goshi with follow up during a clinch situation.
Awesome to see you two together!
Was a fun talk!!
I think you would like kudo, it's mix between kyokushin and judo and they allow punches to the face but use masks
Nice!!
Great stuff! As a Kung Fu guy, I totally agree with punching Wushu people in the head (oh wait... that didn't sound right). Having said that, there is a world of difference between competition Wushu stuff and what I would call Kung Fu ;) Re a follow up video, I would be very interested in that! Awesome idea :)
Hahahahaha
I love how sensei seth's content is bendable to a point where his content just takes the video style of any youtuber he collabs with.
Hi sensei Seth! I really enjoyed the vid. Both personal fav sensei and coach on one vid. A treat. Hehe. I'm a Tang Soo Do practitioner. A more traditional Korean lineage since my WJN is a direct student under late GM Hwang Kee. Would like to ask what would compliment this art and pointers on how to improve on actually assimilating into practice. Thank you.
Heya, I love the channel
Thanks so much dude!
Sensei Seth no problem.
For traditional systems of kung fu I’d say boxing combines amazingly especially with systems like Xingyi quan ,Zanshou quan and Wing chun the boxing basic strikes work great for teaching beginners how to fight quickly and are great fundamental strikes to use in a match or street fight and the traps ,parry’s ,throws, foot work and aggressive mentality of kung fu compliment each other beautifully
Yea!!
Xing Yi Quan is an absolute great base martial art to start with and build on. Xing Yi/Boxing/Judo done.
If I had to guess, I'd say wrestling as that is what is lacking in a lot of the training and would lead to a better understanding of a lot of the hand forms, but a good understanding of boxing with a style like Wing Chun would definitely be useful as well.
Best traditional ma video ive seen in a long time!
More is coming!!
Great video, have to agree with everything you both said. Would love to hear what you would pair with ITF tkd