Transitioning from Traditional to Modern Martial Arts W/ Ramsey Dewey

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  • Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
  • If you take any traditional Martial Arts , and are looking to a move from any style like old school Karate to some more "Modern" hopefully the wise words of Ramsey Dewey! Ramsey has taken styles like Taekwondo, Karate, Capoeira, and even Kobudo, and after learning some amazing tools he transitioned into training for MMA and some of its most important elements like Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, Boxing, Muay Thai and Kickboxing!
    Now, if you train with a more modern Mindset, I think you'll be slightly more capable of jumping into the cage fighting game. Being able to spar and drill with efficiency in mind is key in TMA AND MMA. While it is important to learn to fight and dive into your style, having as much knowledge as your brain can hold is always going to up your game.
    If there's one rule I can give you, its that SPARRING IS KEY!!
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  • @eduardoherrera4151
    @eduardoherrera4151 3 года назад +115

    If you do Karate and want to do MMA, then Learn MMA. A friend of mine wanted to try his Karate by entering a Muay Thai competition, i was like "are you kidding me?" lol I agree with Mr. Dewey, most "traditional" martial arts don't have good training methods when it comes to prepare somebody for a fight. Many people are stuck using the training methods from 1920's Karate which maybe were good for those days but we have to evolve.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +11

      Lol that’s an easy answer

    • @blockmasterscott
      @blockmasterscott 3 года назад +25

      As a traditional fundamentalist practitioner in Chinese Martial Arts, I have to agree with this. The material is very sound and practical and it works. The problem is the training methods today. Too many traditional martial artists don't pressure test their skills.
      I know the material works because I did a lot of full contact no protection fighting in the past. All that stuff works, the knuckle strikes, iron palm training, meditation, spear hands striking under the arm pit, it all works. Well, knocking someone out from 10 feet away with your chi is fantasy, but you know what I mean lol.
      I did a lot of teaching, and the number one obstacle I've had in teaching is the clientele not wanting to spar. It's like talking to a brick wall.
      To make a long story short, traditional martial arts has very sound and practical material but it's hard convincing students to put in the blood, sweat and tears into becoming a good fighter.

    • @michaelterrell5061
      @michaelterrell5061 3 года назад +14

      Training methods back then were nothing but forms,workouts,full contact sparring and a bit more stuff.But the problem is that karate got super popular and that made the styles so stupid.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      I agree

    • @eduardoherrera4151
      @eduardoherrera4151 3 года назад +4

      @@michaelterrell5061 and If you go back before the 1800's, they didn't even "spar" the concept of Sparring is kinda new (late 1800s early 1900's). Back in the old days they did Hardcore body conditioning, they didn't train many Kata (It was the norm you stick to one kata for up to 3 years). they did two persons attack & counters drills but the thing is, with all that hardcore conditioning, even a 50% of the power attack was lethal.

  • @thelastchimp8670
    @thelastchimp8670 3 года назад +26

    i started training combat sports last year with no prior training in TMA or modern MA and am gonna try out kobudo tomorrow just for fun. A lot of people get caught up with the use of fighting 'in da streetz', there's nothing wrong with doing something out of interest.

  • @Thunderhowl
    @Thunderhowl 3 года назад +12

    I feel like a lot of people are also forgetting the key difference between “in shape” & “professional athlete in shape” because there are levels.

  • @badgejohnson5596
    @badgejohnson5596 3 года назад +56

    To me the appeal of 'martial arts' was that it served as a 'hub' of training such that anything I did could help to make it better, including running, swimming, biking, lifting, climbing, hiking, dexterity, flexibility. At times I shelved the martial part and concentrated on those things I was not very good at to bring those physical activities up to par. Early on I decided it was a hobby and not a necessity to provide self-protection or as a thing to stroke my ego. Feeling it was a hobby brought things down to earth, but at the same time gave me tremendous motivation to continue to work on physical abilities throughout my life. Thinking of it as a status thing, belts, trophies was never appealing.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +3

      Love that mindset! Do you use Martial arts for a competition hub too?

    • @badgejohnson5596
      @badgejohnson5596 3 года назад +1

      @@SenseiSeth No, only did two competitions. If I had it to do over I'd have reduced pure MA training to a bare minimum and increased biking and 10k runs. (I never needed to use H2H for self defense.)

    • @badgejohnson5596
      @badgejohnson5596 3 года назад

      The reason is if you build a very broad base of cardio (biking, swimming, jogging, elliptical machines) it will stay with you for a lifetime. But after a lifetime of just MA and a few comps you may be left with injuries and no real physical base. Lay off for a year and you've really got nothing whereas a deep cardio base (ability to swim-bike-run) you have seen the world around you and you draw on that to give you motivation to keep training. FWIW, YMMV.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +1

      Fair enough!

    • @MW-dd8vk
      @MW-dd8vk 3 года назад +4

      That’s what I love about martial arts. You can adapt it to your own personal goals whether in other sports the only goal is to compete

  • @SeCtioNZzEcHO
    @SeCtioNZzEcHO 3 года назад +34

    From going to kickboxing from karate, I’ve found it’s be open to changing things, but if you’re good as say a kicker or a grappler, use that to your advantage, don’t try and be a phenomenal boxer if you kicks are great. Yeah, of course learn everything but play to your strength, you don’t see Conor McGregor pulling guard in the start of every round 🤷‍♂️

  • @biohazard724
    @biohazard724 3 года назад +14

    Ramsey getting bleeped is just as confusing and surprising as I'd imagined it might be

  • @juhanaberman964
    @juhanaberman964 3 года назад +49

    Ramsey on the thumbnail looks kinda like ivan drago

  • @perrenchan6600
    @perrenchan6600 3 года назад +18

    PART 3 PART 3 PART 3
    Another great ep.
    If you didnt get to already, you gotta ask Ramsey about his Tai Chi encounter. Ramsey has such a good story about tai chi

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +5

      Well there will be a part 3, but about MMA! And yes! Great idea. Next time we talk!

    • @perrenchan6600
      @perrenchan6600 3 года назад +1

      @@SenseiSeth Can't wait for part 3

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +2

      Monday at 4 PM ET 🙏👍

    • @whoxsthxs9897
      @whoxsthxs9897 3 года назад

      @@SenseiSeth Ask Ramsey about his encounter with Tai Chi. Haha

  • @Devilsblood
    @Devilsblood 2 года назад +4

    As someone who practiced karate a long time ago I remember my teacher saying this one thing to us: "Do not assume just because you learn this stuff, you are gonna be a super badass. Martial Arts takes training and time. Do not use martial arts to intimidate people or go looking for trouble." Meanwhile when she trained us, she also incorporated some Chinese style martial arts because she wanted us to see the difference. She also wanted us to see some competition, which would later grow into MMA. She might of practiced karate but she was really all about MMA.

    • @MyZ001
      @MyZ001 Год назад

      Yea, that's gotten lost with the success of MMA/UFC. Basically now, if you don't train in a "combat sport", then you're wasting your time with a bullshido martial art. It's a shame really. TMAs are cool AF, as long as you understand it's practical use as Ramesy pointed out.
      Like Shaolin Kung Fu would probably be one of the worst well-established TMAs to use in a street fight. But, how badass is Crane, Tiger, etc. style

  • @lucas9751
    @lucas9751 3 года назад +3

    You and Mike should do more collabs with Dewey. I think he'd have had a lot to offer on the stuff you guys have talked about.

  • @lucastakeo7707
    @lucastakeo7707 3 года назад +6

    Marcos Ruas had what I think is the best advice for anyone trying MMA: train a lot of what you don't know, train 10x more what you already know.
    So as a TKD black belt going into MMA I'm learning BJJ and other forms of grappling so that I don't get dominated on the ground, but I focus my training on striking, because that's where I can get an edge over the competition.

    • @taylorestes8146
      @taylorestes8146 3 года назад +1

      I'm a TKD black belt as well and I'm starting to train with grappleing. I've been so facinated with bjj. TKD really doesnt teach about what to do on the ground

    • @lucastakeo7707
      @lucastakeo7707 3 года назад

      @@taylorestes8146 Yeah, in my old TKD gym we would drill some takedowns and takedown defense for self defense, really basic stuff. Still, when I started BJJ it felt completely new and exciting. Feels good to be a white belt again lol

  • @AllesausLiebef95
    @AllesausLiebef95 3 года назад +14

    I really appreciate both of you guys doing what you do here on youtube and outside of it, i was and currently still am in a pretty bad time in my life and martial arts have given me a way to get fit and form my mind at the same time with something that is actually fun, so it keeps me engaged even when i don´t feel like doing anything.
    When I make it out of this you guys will have played a part in it and I believe that there are many more people that feel that way.
    Thank you again for promoting something that can really help people on their path!

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +3

      Hope things can continue to get better Samuel 🙏

  • @stephanwatson7902
    @stephanwatson7902 3 года назад +10

    I went from Wing Chun to JKD. jkd's "use what works from any style" got me into MMA. Though I wouldn't be nearly as good without learning jkd's concepts, tactics, footwork patterns, open minded philosophies, etc

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 3 года назад +2

    In 70’s became fan of Bruce Lee, but he was very much into cross training.

  • @ninthkaikan1544
    @ninthkaikan1544 3 года назад +5

    I think this is the best Sensei Seth video thumbnail so far. Good job, oss!

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      I might have to agree with you on that. Thanks!

  • @vincewhite5087
    @vincewhite5087 3 года назад +2

    During Kung fu craze of 70’s, when you went to see a Kung fu movie, & went to bathroom, there was all kinds of Kung fu going on, usually wrong.

  • @jakobscoll2432
    @jakobscoll2432 2 года назад

    Ramsey dewey is one of those people that just seems wise. He thinks about every question and always gives a thoughtful honest answer.

  • @doubleb222able
    @doubleb222able 3 года назад +6

    This isn't very complex... just spar mma. Incorporate the mma drills. It just makes you a better martial artist

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +1

      True that

    • @doubleb222able
      @doubleb222able 3 года назад +3

      @@SenseiSeth i went from traditional, to combat athlete, back to traditional. The more I competed full contact the more value I saw in traditional martial arts. I think the limited rules sparring is the key component that was missing from "modern" traditional martial arts.

  • @michaelrizzo5523
    @michaelrizzo5523 3 года назад +1

    REALLY enjoying the two of you together! Love it!

  • @WadeSmith-oe5xd
    @WadeSmith-oe5xd 4 месяца назад

    When we did full contact sparring back in the 1990's and early 2000s, we wore headgear and roughly 2 ounce gloves, and the only rules were "Wade can't kick above 50% of what he has, so he doesn't break everyone else's ribs or sternum. Everyone lay off the front of the face. Punch to the crown of the headgear or the side of the headgear. Remember to mix in submissions with your striking if you can. Hajume"
    I don't fight "fair". If i want to land a hook punch to your temple or jaw, I don't just throw the hook punch. I "jab, cross, front snap kick, step through the kick, Hook." If i hit you with anything more than the hook, that's gravy, but I've planned your downfall from your previous movements and your telegraphing of your movements, etc. If I catch you square on the temple or the jaw with what i have in my right hook, you're going down, and that's not even my strongest punch. In fact, it's probably my weakest.

  • @CountBrass
    @CountBrass 3 года назад +2

    Man, these conversations with Ramsey are great. Thank you!

  • @mikej8382
    @mikej8382 3 года назад +2

    If you want your Karate to work then find a good partner and Spar as rough as you can without getting hurt. Be safe but try everything you can think of. Learn from each other and take as many rules out as you can.

  • @gingercore69
    @gingercore69 3 года назад +20

    When i tried to transition from pointstyle to boxing i had a very big problem... My footwork was amog the best at the gym, my straight punches were decent... But everything else i sucked... So, at the gym there were guys and girls just starting and then guys getting ready for their fights... So... I didnt have domeone with ehom to spar... The new guys were too easy, the veterans were too hard

    • @gingercore69
      @gingercore69 3 года назад +4

      In the end i barely learnt anything because with the new guys it was easier to just use my karate style... And with the good boxers it was useless to try anything

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +6

      Kudos for trying new stuff!

    • @blockmasterscott
      @blockmasterscott 3 года назад +4

      I've had the same problem going from Tae Kwon Do to Chinese Kenpo in the 90s. It took a little over a year to get used to it, I feel your pain.

    • @gingercore69
      @gingercore69 3 года назад +2

      @@blockmasterscott i did about 3 months and quit for health reasons, then started sanda... Being able to kick and grapple again made me feel much more comfortable with the style and i have to admit the headmovement from boxing was very useful

    • @filpi93
      @filpi93 3 года назад +1

      Different sports....

  • @The31st
    @The31st 3 года назад

    That tools explanation is really good

  • @michaelterrell5061
    @michaelterrell5061 3 года назад

    Always amazing you to are.

  • @mattbugg4568
    @mattbugg4568 3 года назад +1

    As someone who is too old to care, whenever you learn something new learn something new, I don't try to drag my calculus books into a physics class even tho I might use parts of calculus in physics they are two different studies. That's all ill say about that. If you want to learn mma learn mma although you might use some other stuff you learned along the way in it That's not the focus of the training.

  • @leedeffebach3504
    @leedeffebach3504 3 года назад +2

    Really like watching you and all the other big martial arts youtubers talk. Like to see some more videos with Ramsey and maybe some with shane from fight tips also.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +1

      Will definitely be trying!

  • @skycow3208
    @skycow3208 3 года назад

    Great video 🙏🙏

  • @blacksheepwall79
    @blacksheepwall79 3 года назад

    I like both Ramsey and Seth, and I love Ramsey's humorous stuff but I really like rationality mixed with some healthy humility that both these fellas bring to the table.

  • @FredKuneDo
    @FredKuneDo 3 года назад +2

    Easiest way for Karate or Taekwondo, also some other Styles with high focus on striking, is the transition to a Kickboxing ruleset.
    There are very different rulesets possible, for Karate-styles with "Ippon Kumite" and Taekwondo and "pointfigting stances and tactics" it is often easy to adapt to "american style Pointfight"-Kickboxing, later changing into some "continous figting ruleset" for which it is necessary to learn some more square/bowed stances to use both hands and feets in the closer distance.
    I mean "american style Kickboxing" was invented by Fighters from Shotokan, Goju-Ryu, Tang Soo Do, Taekwondo, Kempo- and Kung Fu-Styles, to have a common ground and was sometimes called "All Style Karate", "Free Style Karate" or "American Full Contact Karate".
    For me it is a bit funny, because from some training in Taekwondo and Shotokan as a teenager, I trained mostliy "dutch (K1) Kickboxing" in my twenties, than made a transition to Kyokushin because my Kickboxing Instructor also taught Kyokushin in a different class.
    It is for many "striking martial arts practioners" a quite usual thing, to crosstrain in a "traditional art" and a "modern combat sport".
    "UFC-MMA" or "Cagefighting" is a again a different thing, because it is not everywhere popular like in the US. For Germany, Netherlands and some other european Countries, there are still more Kickboxing Competitions popular and bigger events, than "Cage-MMA".

  • @fa1_z
    @fa1_z 3 года назад +2

    Crushed the thumbnail design dude!!

  • @chrishansen9379
    @chrishansen9379 2 года назад

    I think the point about traditional arts being bad at teaching you to use the tools is exactly right. I’ve trained in several traditional classes over the years and, at least in my experience, they’re all about teaching the movements of that style but it’s like they don’t know how to train. Half of them can’t even show you how the moves in their forms or kata are supposed to be used.
    It’s true that traditional arts might be lacking things you need in a combat sport but you can learn those things. The big thing I think is the combat sports community in general just has more experience teaching people to be effective.

  • @flenixfire4719
    @flenixfire4719 Год назад

    i do a more traditional shotokan karate and I actually agree that they show u how to do the move perfectly but don't show u how to actually use it but from what I've learned is that practising at home with a punching bag can really make u more confident on how to use these moves but in the real world it always depends on you and your opponent.

  • @nikolab.4065
    @nikolab.4065 3 года назад +13

    I'll probably never do the sport of MMA because I don't like grappling, which I tried for a year but was never any good at it and I never saw my future self in it. I will however continue to do the MMA-ish approach of adding any new stuff I can find that isn't grappling. I strongly disagree that being a cage fighter is that "grand goal" that anyone who wants to be a martial artist must pursue.

    • @paulbadman8509
      @paulbadman8509 3 года назад +8

      At least have a decent sprawl and get your scramble and technical stand up on point.

    • @alekskristi5268
      @alekskristi5268 3 года назад +8

      yeah I kinda hate the attitude some mma people have, "either you do mma and become a 70% grappler, or you're not a good fighter at all". i agree that grappling/wrestling is a good skill, but if you're not good at it and you're sure you're much more versatile in striking than you'll ever be in grappling, then i say: don't learn it. good striking can beat grappling, its not impossible. its just that mma imposes the idea of you needing to grapple to be the "perfect fighter", but if you ask me all mma accomplishes with that philosophy is trying monopolize martial arts as a whole.

    • @paulbadman8509
      @paulbadman8509 3 года назад +2

      @@alekskristi5268 thats naive.

    • @alekskristi5268
      @alekskristi5268 3 года назад

      @@paulbadman8509 what exactly?

    • @paulbadman8509
      @paulbadman8509 3 года назад +3

      @@alekskristi5268 you should at least have decent sprawl. Otherwise you cannot defend yourself from takedowns.

  • @IronBodyMartialArts
    @IronBodyMartialArts 3 года назад

    Good Points all round.

  • @tofudog5699
    @tofudog5699 3 года назад

    Make a pros and cons of what martial art where you discuss what is good about what martial art you chose and what is bad

  • @leonidvishniakov3810
    @leonidvishniakov3810 3 года назад +2

    Andy hug transitioned from karate to kickboxing. and became kickboxing legend

    • @FredKuneDo
      @FredKuneDo 3 года назад +2

      That was not sooo difficult, because Andy Hug was as a Karateka in a Kyokushin-style. When allready trained in Kyokushin, you only have to learn how to punch to the head and guard your head, to transit to "K1/Dutch Kickboxing" footwork. Bas Rutten, Semmy Schilt, Peter Aerts, Jerome LeBanner are also "Kyokushin guys". The whole "japanese K1 Kickboxing", in Europe "Dutch Kickboxing", was mostly dominated by Kyokushin and Muay Thai fighters. That is a reason why some kneestrikes, kicks and mechanics in Dutch Kickboxing are following typical Kyokushin principles.

    • @leonidvishniakov3810
      @leonidvishniakov3810 3 года назад +1

      @@FredKuneDofigthing with boxing glove is very diffrant from fighting bare knuckle......

    • @FredKuneDo
      @FredKuneDo 3 года назад +2

      @@leonidvishniakov3810, it is. But it is easier to transit from bare knuckle kyokushin to punching in gloves, than from boxing or kickboxing in gloves to bareknuckle.
      The main problem for Kyokushin is the habit of not guarding the head against punches and leaning to much forward for punching power sometimes.
      But it is often likely that Kyokushin schools/dojos allready teach K1-Kickboxing also.
      At least in the Netherlands and Germany.

  • @hitman47784
    @hitman47784 3 года назад +1

    Really really enjoyed this bro. Love that idea about the random person too lol would be lovely

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +1

      Haha would be way more enjoyable to watch 😂

  • @c_rem6101
    @c_rem6101 3 года назад +1

    This thumbnail was GAS🔥🔥🔥

  • @simoneriksson8329
    @simoneriksson8329 3 года назад +1

    Intresting :)

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Simon! Hope you enjoy it

  • @tvfinnflaherty7768
    @tvfinnflaherty7768 3 года назад

    I’d like to hear you guys talk about Judo. I’m enjoying the content !

  • @streetlethal3727
    @streetlethal3727 3 года назад +1

    But Cobra is fearsome in appearance, however the Mongoose looks like a common house pet

  • @DMaster5062
    @DMaster5062 3 года назад

    Ramsey Dewey sounds like Master Ken!!!

  • @Gacho39
    @Gacho39 3 года назад +9

    10:00 i missheard that as Hentai grappling videos

    • @kungfuman82
      @kungfuman82 3 года назад

      What are you doing, senpai?

  • @neonhavok
    @neonhavok 3 года назад

    Damn you got ramsey on your show? thats awesome

  • @Silverbell_TTV
    @Silverbell_TTV Год назад

    I think the idea of not fighting, not sparring, comes from the idea of the martial arts master who learned what you would learn from sparring, by being forced to actually fight in real situations. But if you don't live in that kind of danger, you have to spar, because it's the only way to get the practical side. The person saying only fight in defense, is saying that because not having enough practical experience applying their art was the least of their problems. And that's not the situation of most people learning martial arts today.

  • @tauhid9983
    @tauhid9983 3 года назад

    man, that thumbnail is sickkkk....honestly the best thumbnail I have seen in my life.

  • @jj-wp6wc
    @jj-wp6wc 2 года назад +1

    Good convo.
    I went from getting my butt kicked in TMA, to getting my butt kicked in MMA, and now I am back to TMA😃 tmi?

  • @fbiagent2848
    @fbiagent2848 3 года назад +1

    I was gonna ask you to ask him some questions that were fan submitted then I realized he answers like everyone’s questions and that’s kind of his thing

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      Hahaha I had a hard time coming up with subjects 😂

  • @nick0424
    @nick0424 3 года назад

    That show was called Pros vs. Joes

  • @deepwavez
    @deepwavez 3 года назад +2

    Nice talk guys !
    Maybe some guys go back to traditional when they are done with pro mma.., would be interesting as well to hear from them.

  • @claud1961
    @claud1961 3 года назад

    I am not up on what is going on lately but here is my take. I began fooling around with whatever I could find after seeing Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris in the late 70's. I had found my passion! I piddled around until I found a Tang Soo Do teacher in 1984. I think I was fortunate that he was a Highway Patrolman and did this because he wanted to, and taught out of a gym he and his wife ran together. He had no interest in sport or promoting his art, and if you didn't like it that was fine. We trained like he was taught, and his teacher learned in Korea while stationed somewhere. So if you didn't like any part of the style or the training and left that was considered a good thing.
    I remember doing things I would never do and thought just wasn't done. I remember, for example, doing knuckle push-ups outside on hot asphalt in 100 degree California weather, working on basic moved for an hour non-stop, a lot of stuff to harden the spirit. I say spirit because the body does what you tell it to, and that was the point. We ran like a boot camp, with the instructor barking orders, mistakes punished with push-ups or several laps around the outdoor track. Even during sparring and self-defense scenarios, a common thing where you are put into a circle while the instructor walks around behind the other and secretly taps someone- or two- to attack you when you thought it was sneaky, you needed to show form and discipline and not flail or panic. And that is what I thought classical MA was all about, hardcore training to teach you you can do anything you put your mind to. We just chose this vehicle, mostly because at that time there were no others.
    What I have seen in the past few decades is the diluting of things to make it easy for everybody to do. So it is now PC and almost what Musashi would call modern dancing, sad to say. It seems if you want to prosper you need to take all the 'rough stuff' out and make it cool, no contact or pain or challenge, and if you goof during a test, no worries! You meant well, here is a stripe anyway. With that knowledge, and that is the kicker here, most people don't research enough, I wouldn't bother with any of them unless I just had no other option. Doesn't anybody check out the instructor anymore?

  • @brodiebriggs5759
    @brodiebriggs5759 3 года назад

    15:00 i thought i knew how to fight until a couple weeks ago when i walked into my muay thai gym for the first time LOL

  • @dakotalandreth
    @dakotalandreth 3 года назад +1

    yasss

  • @allenjenkins06
    @allenjenkins06 3 года назад

    Seth, check out the late 2000's Spike show "Pros vs. Joes." Most of the contestants were fairly athletic people, but they pretty much all got obliterated, even when it was in different sports. But when it was in the pros' sports, even if they were retired, it went pretty much how you think.

  • @run1tupqu1nn
    @run1tupqu1nn 3 года назад +1

    I hope I can be just like u

  • @Zapinator321
    @Zapinator321 3 года назад +3

    And another overpowered collab. Trying to break the internet again seth?

  • @sliderx1897
    @sliderx1897 3 года назад +1

    I recently heard something along the lines of, " the longer its been the better we were." U have guys talking about high school football like it was some elite level sports organization when in reality it was a bunch of 15 year olds running drills after school

  • @vitoravila9908
    @vitoravila9908 3 года назад

    There is a story about a Pankration(ancient greek MMA) olimpic champion from Athens named Dioxippus in the army of Alexander, the Great, that accepted a challenge from one of Alexander's most skilled soldiers named Coragus to fight in front of Alexander and the troops in armed combat. While Coragus wore full armor, carried a bronze shield and long pike in his left hand, a javelin in his right hand, and wearing a side sword, while Dioxippus s came out well oiled and nude, carrying a purple cloak in his left hand and a heavy club in his right and defeated Coragus without killing him, making use of his pankration skills.
    Dioxippus dodged the Macedonian javelin, then, before Coragus could transfer his pike to his right hand, Dioxippus attacked, shattering the weapon with his club. The Macedonian attempted to draw his sword, but Dioxippus wrestled him, getting a bodylock or a "bear hug" as descripted, swept him to the ground, disarmed him, and immobilized him. He then stepped on Coragus' throat and could have killed him, but Alexander stopped the fight at this point.
    IDK why I told this story, I just felt like....

  • @KilicArslanBahadur
    @KilicArslanBahadur Год назад

    As for CM Punk, aside from the fact that this guy is way more athletic than an average Joe, he tried his best, his best was simply not enough
    He went out there, took a beating, but at least he tried, I call that having guts, the man has nothing but respect from me

  • @treymascarello8463
    @treymascarello8463 3 года назад

    I think you guys just solved the clue to why ninjutsu is so hidden and ancient... everyone was embarrassed of it 😂

  • @imawarrior313
    @imawarrior313 3 года назад

    Hybrid is the name of the game guys, like Bruce said. Learn what’s useful and ditch what’s not and mix em up

  • @speedlgt
    @speedlgt 3 года назад +3

    Could either of you comment on how while traditional martial arts may not be as effective in actual combat.....the spiritual side of it (the focus discipline meditation channeling of energy) seems to be something that is lacking in modern arts. MMA etc.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      Video is coming next time he and I talk

  • @coolworms7297
    @coolworms7297 Год назад

    personally, i'm trying to just fill the gaps of my martial arts.
    i do traditional ITF taekwondo, but i'm starting BJJ.

  • @chincrise
    @chincrise 3 года назад +4

    is it alright if i call you Seth-sei

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +1

      Hahaha call me whatever you’d like

  • @Elementa2006
    @Elementa2006 3 года назад +6

    What do you think of Shuai Jiao? People tend to simply call it just wrestling in China except from what I seen Shuai Jiao seems to be a lot like Judo, which isn't surprising it's kind of an ancestor to Judo.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      I can’t say I’ve heard of it!

    • @eagle162
      @eagle162 3 года назад

      Judo can pretty much considered a type of wrestling / grappling Art, heck the reason Legs grabs were banned from the Olympics
      Was because they felt that made it similar to Freestyle Wrestling.
      SJ is also not the ancestor judo mainly comes from Tenjin Shin'yō-ryū and Kitō Ryū jujutsu styles,You can find similar(but not the same and others you will not find)throws in SJ,Same could be said for this kind of wrestling.
      ruclips.net/video/8xzW30VsRFE/видео.html
      Greco-Roman can also be comparable.

    • @snazdogdbfan251
      @snazdogdbfan251 3 года назад +3

      Speaking of... I am primarily a grappler but I have an appreciation of all the martial arts, so I was watching some wing chun practice on the dummies. And I found quite a few moves that could be applied to stand up grappling in the clinch. It's crazy like mind blowing. It's hard to explain but it's not too far fetched I think

    • @honbo123
      @honbo123 3 года назад

      @@snazdogdbfan251 good observation. Wing chun at its core is a clinch fighting art.

    • @snazdogdbfan251
      @snazdogdbfan251 3 года назад +1

      @@honbo123 dude I know right. I was just mind blown. Tma will never be useless as long as there are MMA practitioners willing to put some time into finding the hidden applications

  • @MoneyForFun255
    @MoneyForFun255 3 года назад

    Sensei Seth, Icy Mike, Ramsey Dewey, Stephen Thompson and Houston Jones collab imagine

  • @LuisNgchongJrArt
    @LuisNgchongJrArt 3 года назад

    **😀 *** when i was a kid i took tae kwondo decades ago then 20 years later i decided to get into martial arts again ufc motivted me to get into martials arts. again when i took mma i notice they didnt do to much kicking the only kick i remeber doing was the round house kick and combination of boxing. i felt i wanted ti have thise kicks again so like bruce lee said take a little bit this and that so when i get home after mma class i practice my tae kwondo kicks *

  • @carllubrin8518
    @carllubrin8518 3 года назад

    American ninja 🥷 got me liking ninjitsu ^^

  • @ashtraydekay6624
    @ashtraydekay6624 Год назад

    The "uncle Rico's" out there.......hahahhahahah

  • @anardistformerlynigel5250
    @anardistformerlynigel5250 Год назад

    Perfect ninjutsu joke.

  • @jw-nz2vx
    @jw-nz2vx 3 года назад +1

    Even Andy Hug had to ease his way into pro kickboxing from karate. And he trained in the hardest styles of karate, Seidokaikan and Kyokushin. I don't care how good you think you are at karate, you are not better than Andy Hug was.

  • @abenezer96m95
    @abenezer96m95 3 года назад +1

    Hi why don't you react takedown form(poomsae),kiks and fight

  • @binaryglitch64
    @binaryglitch64 3 года назад

    I JJJ is my art... while I feel we're left out sometimes, I also just call it Jiujitsu and ride the wave of BJJ popularity, and cuz I can demonstrate some grappling, people automatically assume I am some badass who knows MMA... like okay sure, if that's what you wanna think and your busy making me feel cool about it, who am I to argue lol. And it feels a little deserved now because I moved and couldn't find a traditional Jiu-Jitsu dojo so I started taking BJJ... but I secretly wish I could find a traditional Jiu-Jitsu dojo around here.

  • @nicolaikecskes967
    @nicolaikecskes967 2 года назад

    I did apply Martial Arts to my BULLIES!
    But only if they came 1-3 at a time.
    One time at the sports and swimming hall in my town a bunch of 6 graders, in fact 12 of them, stood and waited for me to come out of swimming class...
    I was a 4th grader at the time.
    So I guess you all can guess what happened...
    But later on they all got their butts kicked and punched.
    One thing I especially loved to do was to hide somewhere and wait for their gang to disperse so I could run at them.
    Sometimes flying at them with a Tobi Geri.
    The point is I saw openings to apply my martial art to.
    Most of us traditional Martial Artists have after all been bullied.
    In my case it was the richest kids that bullied me. It's often so.

  • @stevenshar1233
    @stevenshar1233 3 года назад

    One of the major issues is that traditional martial arts and martial arts in general (until relatively recently) has always been shrouded by mysticism, and it doesn't help that mass media amplifies this myth. Most people (in the beginning) who gets into martial arts just want a secret move that will beat everyone/anyone. Just because you're a practitioner of Hiten Mitsurugi-ryu doesn't make you a good swordsman

  • @davidcook2513
    @davidcook2513 2 месяца назад

    A possible solution to the MMA "armchair prizefighter" notion of everyone overestimating their ability to fight would be an amateur system of MMA matches. Just like non Olympians and non professionals can train for and compete in triathlons, distance running, basketball games, golf, baseball/softball, perhaps a culture of amateur combat sport competitions should be created by some organization. Perhaps thats why Trad MA still have a place- it's the only access most regular people had for a very long time to an outlet for fighting.

  • @danielquezada9902
    @danielquezada9902 3 года назад +1

    time to get some nice chicken Parmesan and enjoy this

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +1

      Can’t go wrong with some chicky chicky parm parm

  • @truebaki
    @truebaki 3 года назад +1

    My damn phone gave me my Notification just now

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      Tisk tisk.. tisk tisk

    • @truebaki
      @truebaki 3 года назад +1

      @@SenseiSeth next time I'll keep an eye on the time!

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      Streak = gone

    • @truebaki
      @truebaki 3 года назад

      @@SenseiSeth I'm extra fast next time!

  • @russellchisel5005
    @russellchisel5005 3 года назад +1

    I'm suprised that there are no Krav Maikido experts commenting

  • @doctorllama2507
    @doctorllama2507 3 года назад

    I'm a karate practitioner but I found out the truth about TMA and now my style doesn't make sense and also I discovered it wasn't for me, I'm very interested in learning wrestling but I'm afraid my parents wont want to and continue with karate

  • @ri9p3r89
    @ri9p3r89 3 года назад

    Would you boxing tma?

  • @anardistformerlynigel5250
    @anardistformerlynigel5250 Год назад

    Hahaha, it would be awesome if the olympics had a normal person in every event as like to control group so we can all see how much better the athletes are.

  • @MIIC2
    @MIIC2 3 года назад

    My European brain was thinking hard what is quarter back in football xD

  • @run1tupqu1nn
    @run1tupqu1nn 3 года назад +1

    U should be in ufc

  • @davidcook2513
    @davidcook2513 2 месяца назад

    I think it could be explained like this: paintball is a wargame "style". Airsoft is a wargame "style*. Both are quite similar, and yet being skilled at paintball will not automatically carry over to airsoft, and vice versa. AND...even if one were the world champion in both paintball and airsoft, they would still likely be dead 5 min into a real gunfight on an actual combat battlefield.

  • @averageguyvstheworld8601
    @averageguyvstheworld8601 2 года назад

    Dude... can I be the average guy that just gets blown away by everyone who actually does this stuff? Because I’m totally down.

  • @greatteachersinusuka3202
    @greatteachersinusuka3202 3 года назад +1

    Traditional martial arts is more an avenue of enlightenment now, MMA is designed for overpowering opponents. I still enjoy traditional though.

  • @scottt7309
    @scottt7309 3 года назад +4

    Why would someone want to stop doing Karate?

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +3

      If you do karate for your whole childhood, you want to switch it up sometimes!

    • @truebaki
      @truebaki 3 года назад +3

      Well I stopped and startet Taekwondo, Seth pls don't disown me I can explain...

    • @scottt7309
      @scottt7309 3 года назад +1

      I get that. Do something else for a while then come back to it.

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +1

      That’s the idea!

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +2

      Hahahaha Dimitri, you’re fired

  • @stephanwatson7902
    @stephanwatson7902 3 года назад +2

    No one person has all the answers. So no founder or even a few generations of s martial art will have all the answers to fighting. The founders of jujitsu figured out things different answers than the ones like karate figured out. TMA would have done and still do better, if they learnt from what all the other fighting styles figured out and evolve. MMA makes that obvious but it wasn't obvious here and in China in the 60's. Yes other countries had full-contact already but it was common in the cultures and modern media that Bruce Lee lived with, We've only caught up to his take on fighting in recent decades and I'd say mma is still catching up. Look at people's reaction to Jon Jones Knee stomps, Oblique kicks, sidekicks to the knee, they were surprised and wondered at the effectiveness. Now multiple high lvl fighters have had injured knees and had to adopt knee stomps into their games. Wonderboy got his knee injured by Till BUT is to nice a motherf***** in his own words, to use knee stomps. There's plenty of other techniques and concepts he advised that people have been putting to excellent use in the cage.

  • @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA
    @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA 3 года назад +1

    Wrestler with some boxing can take all traditional martial artists.. and most kickboxers or Thai fighters.., they will have problems with jitcu guys tho.

    • @ajmjl9102
      @ajmjl9102 2 года назад

      so a striker with grappling will beat a striker huh who would've thought

  • @corysims7521
    @corysims7521 3 года назад +1

    Pros v joes

  • @ZainAhmad-jl4vt
    @ZainAhmad-jl4vt Месяц назад

    from karate or taekwondo probably just go for kickboxing

  • @leoprzytuac3660
    @leoprzytuac3660 3 года назад +4

    Wait, what? you seriously can't use the word "Bully" in youtube? are you kidding me?

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      Gotta be careful with it lol

    • @leoprzytuac3660
      @leoprzytuac3660 3 года назад +3

      @@SenseiSeth Wow... idk, it's not even a swear word, at this point it seems like flat out censorship... shallow minded, morally questionable censorship...

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +1

      Hard to prevent stuff at a massive scale

    • @blockmasterscott
      @blockmasterscott 3 года назад +1

      What? I must have missed that while watching the video. Seriously, RUclips doesn't like people using the word "bully"?

    • @leoprzytuac3660
      @leoprzytuac3660 3 года назад +1

      @@blockmasterscott apparently

  • @KiddReige
    @KiddReige 3 года назад +1

    Too many cults of personality and deification in traditional martial arts as well. We’re taught to trust the legends of our teachers or our teachers teachers

  • @woundedtiger1213
    @woundedtiger1213 3 года назад +1

    First

  • @leavemealoneyouprick
    @leavemealoneyouprick 3 года назад +1

    ah man, i see you said you'll kick me in the end pic.... guess i'll have to re-sub :/

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      Thank you sir 🙏

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      Wait.. I did? I don’t remember doing that

    • @leavemealoneyouprick
      @leavemealoneyouprick 3 года назад +1

      @@SenseiSeth indeed you did, cap'in!

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад

      Hmm.. does sound like me, I suppose 😂

  • @calebworden2993
    @calebworden2993 Год назад

    A lot of martial arts know how to punch

  • @danjacksonguitar3701
    @danjacksonguitar3701 2 года назад

    I can't believe you're not allowed to use that word on RUclips...

  • @vikingbluesbreaker729
    @vikingbluesbreaker729 3 года назад +1

    Wait, you cany say 🐂'd? Thats crazy. Like you cant even have a discussion about it?

    • @SenseiSeth
      @SenseiSeth  3 года назад +1

      Idk, but I don’t play games with YT anymore, if they took down my cobra Kai video, they’ll take down anything lol