Elbows definitely deserves S just like how the kick is the best long-range weapon and it sucks up close the elbows the best close-range weapon and it sucks from afar
I’d move up A to S and B to A. In the street fights I’ve been in, I threw punches, knees, headbutts and Bjj. Only damage I took was from being thrown because most people who can’t fight lean on the throw or td.
Then it got demoted for it's reach.... Hehe. For real tho Muay Thai will never not be useful. It covers everything it has to about strikes. But its not that useful for the police for example. Those guys need Judo classes.
@@ElDrHouse2010 That's a great point. I saw a video a while back of this cop just tossing this guy who was about to attack him. It was smooth and quick, so I assume he had a fair amount of Judo training.
@@ElDrHouse2010 Muay Thai also teaches stand grappling and trips, which is just as important in a street fight. The clinch is so good that you transition into anything.
Exactly, it's why I think if BJJ guy's against multiple people have a decent chance, if they hit a blast double or a decent throw, slam or takedown, then engage the second guy on the ground it's the safest bet, or throw, then strike then engage the 3rd on the ground. All of this is assuming u can't escape
@@RykerSpeaks yeah, but good BJJ schools teach takedowns trips and throws, at my school we do, we use techniques and takedowns from judo, wrestling, sambo and the Gracie's
@@societybelike same here. My local BJJ gym has 3 instructors with belts and competition experience in different disciplines on top of their BJJ. They don’t allow hard sparring but they’ll teach you technique and proper form for Judo throws and TKD kicks. Getting hip-tossed in slow-mo is weirdly fun lol
Great thoughts. Love the insights. A few more if I may, Elbow is so close to S. The only draw back I can see is range. Otherwise, you can knock out with an elbow, you can cut with it, you can deploy it half a dozen ways and from different lines of attack (including a spinning). AND, it will not break like a hand. Throws... Excellent. Can be used to put someone down hard, hard enough to cause Critical Condition Injuries. Though if you hold onto them on the way down so the wind gets knocked out of them rather than a cracked skull, it can be an excellent de-escalating technique. Palm strikes, arguably better than punches. I think it's a Karate philosophy (you'd know better than I) but Hard against Soft, Soft against Hard. Knee, though deadly and versatile, you do sacrifice balance while on one leg. Groin.... no, not when your enemy is firing adrenaline on all cylinders.
If you can land a jab you can elbow. I have a good practice to teach you how to do this. Practice throwing a jab. Then an upwards elbow on the same arm. Now hold your arm out to something to hit and blitz in with your feet as you contract the arm the show the elbow. It will hit. It’s all footwork.
We use all of these in Traditional Jujutsu. Eye poke hurts like hell but ultimately is is just used as a quick distraction for a take down. The same goes for a groin strike except there is a delay before the pain sets in so you are most likely going to have to use another strike before you can throw them or use a takedown
Great stuff :) However, as an old (and quite boring) Kung Fu guy, I have to say that I disagree re palm strikes. Most folk think of a palm strike as a kind of push into the target, and in this case I agree with you. However, a more effective way to throw them is by pointing the fingers towards the target and then, at the last moment, flicking the palm heal into the target (whilst, obviously, throwing the bodyweight behind it). By doing it in this way, you are suddenly increasing the speed of the palm, beyond that of the rest of the limb, thus massively increasing the power (mass x acceleration, blah, blah, blah). Also, just as a comparison with punches, try this wee experiment. Make a fist and tap yourself on the forehead. What do you feel? Probably a wee bit of localized pain but nothing much happening on the inside of the scull. Now do the same with a palm heel. You'll feel a vibration throughout the whole of your noggin and if this was a full power strike there'd be a serious concussion. Also, re slaps - I had a mate that used to be a bare knuckle prize fighter in Canada during the 1950s. He told me that he won every (EVERY) one of his fights with a big girly slap to the face (which shocked and momentarily stunned the opponent), followed by a reverse palm heel. One last thing, re headbutts! As a Scotsman, suggesting that English folk are the meatheads that favour this technique is extremely insulting! WE are the meatheads that have mastered this crap! ;) OK? ;)
@@BrianNichol If you're in range for an elbow they wouldn't have enough range to wind up and punch. When you wind up a punch even if it's a cross or a jab, when you hit the target before the optimum range, you're striking power is severely reduced. Unless you are a world class fighter, you won't be able to generate sufficient power without enough range to accelerate. Ordinarily you would have the other hand shielding you anyways during an elbow strike. You can do a lot of things to reduce the power of a punch with proper technique, with an elbow you would have to directly counter it, or weave to dodge. Just my perspective. Obviously the elbow is not something you start the fight with, the fists will always be used the most due to the range, just simply put, you aren't punching somebody that is kicking you, the same way you wouldn't want to punch somebody close enough to elbow you.
I think it's important to know in what context you'd use them. Groin strikes, Elbows and headbutts are definitely s tier if we're talking self defense, where you want to strike first and as hard as possible. All 3 are potential immediate fight enders. I don't know why groin strikes have a reputation of not being effective. They are like a liver shot. Sure, you might fight through one, but it will hurt like crazy and potentially disable you completely. I've caught a full blown lowkick to the groin in Muay Thai sparring and even with the cup it finished me. I couldn't have kept fighting if it was for my life.
Groin and palm strikes are awesome but for their main intended use. Use palm instead of punching when the target is let's say the back of the head of someone so your hand won't hurt so much while giving same amount of force. Use groin to hit the eyes of the opponent instead of punching the eyes. they are more situacional and only bad if you use them when it's not the correct situation it's not like they were intended to be efectively used as a default strike like the punching
We didn't fight to the intentional KO back in the day but my one KO was a jump spinning back kick, or the "Joe Rogan" kick he did in his TKD match. I think a knee can be a good one. Some things are good in G&P and not so good elsewhere. So it depends on the position of the people fighting.
I asked for this list and you delivered Sensei!! so lets say this is my first comment with some disagreement with you Sensei. Pokes and groin and open palm stuff has saved my life in real fights. I'd rank them a lot higher since once they connect, they cause folks to change their energy/stance to be always wary. The Bas Rutten Bitch Slap is exactly what i wanted to see!! What about Knife hand or the reverse strike with your thumb knuckle and Also hammer fists (learnt in Karate)....one more thing....Tackles or Shooting in is using your whole body to strike...and that's how I've countered strikers.
I'm tempted to ask that slap and push be switched. Slaps are hell if you dont see em coming, but I feel like a push to put someone off balance has the same kinda effect with the bonus of making enough space to beat the crap out of them while they are surprised.
Out of the several fights I've been in, I've won TWO with pokes to pressure points. Usually only takes 1 or 2 strikes to make someone think about their life choices and why they're fighting as their arms fall dead.
I have on more than one occasion successfully used a "poke" as a preemptive strike by way of the nukite to completely disable someone in a real life situation by impacting 1. intercostal area between the ribs. 2. the throat and 3. the solar plexus. True, you could use nakadaka-ken or ippon-ken to do the same but at least in my case I am more capable of initiating the "poke" from close range without "chambering" my strike beforehand, whereas I would instinctively withdraw my fists to prepare a nakada-ken or ippon-ken, therefore alerting the other person that a strike is coming.
I really don't think you miss out on anything with a palm strike, it limits your range by maybe a couple inches but it maintains the power and its safer than a punch due to alignment but yeah you can hook, jab, cross, straight punch, uppercut But other than that no real disagreements lol and as always a worth while vid to watch
Cool video, i like pokes.. Is true some times hurts more some time less but if you know how to use it is a great tool.. I use it to set up kicks and distraction.
A solid slap to the ear can actually rupture your eardrum and cause vertigo, with a risk of permanent hearing loss. I would have rated slaps higher. You're only thinking about a light slap with the fingertips to the cheek, not a full-bodied palm to the ear or even the side of the neck.
Definitely S for me on simple, direct, effective kicks. Standalone or ending a combo if you know how to kick it doesn't matter where you hit that shit is gonna hurt
Ok ok, I think I get it now. You just mostly like to joke around when it comes to TKD etc. Really enjoyed the video and was something I'd suggested on a previous video of yours. Good because it's not covered from a self defence perspective and I'm a long time striker through TKD and boxing myself. Maybe you'd do a tier list on grappling techniques (if you also grapple) for self defence? Judo throws on concrete, maybe Drop Ippon Seo Nagi if you don't want to kill them. Sacrifice techniques etc.
I find it interesting that throws and punches scored highest and that I believe Bruce lee said someone with a year or two in boxing and wrestling experience could defeat or at least hold there own against most black belts. That's not an exact quote, but close enough. Also I would have liked to have seen palm strikes higher because I think them being less damaging to the hand being a big bonus
I think any technique depends on certain factors to be effective. Distance, Position, Openings available, etc. The best technique is the one most suitable for the occasion.
Actually, I agree with your list. I didn't agree with where you put elbow or groin initially but you moved 'em just how I would've by the end. It's a good list.
a couple of questions regarding kicks. I see you doing a spinning back kick to the heavy bag, at impact your knee is at its pathological limit , any negative angle on the joint can cause injury. On the round house kick your foot is extended to the pathologic limit of the ankle, any negative angle on the foot/ankle joint can cause injury. The more power you hit with the more risk of injury to your self. I don't understand the logic of using strikes that can injury your own body in a fight.
Headbutts truly shine when your opponents hands are occupied or out of the way (in guard, punching or grappling/clinching). Doing headbutts this way will give you free strikes in positions you otherwise would not be able to land, often while your opponent cannot defend your strike. Not being able to defend is mainly why headbutts are banned in the UFC (logical or not). Headbutts can also disgruntle and daze opponents enough for you to land more significant strikes to finish the fight (much like Conor McGregors shoulder strikes on Donald Cerrone). Look up Dave Leduc and behold a master of headbutts. This technique is seriously underrated in my opinion. Use your head!
In the movie Kickass 2 there’s a bit of dialogue where the leader of the heroes tells them to always palm strike so they don’t break their hands. Later in the movie he goes against his own advice and punches a Russian woman in her face and breaks his hand. It’s what I always think of when hearing about the palm strike argument
I just love how much shit talk you do against side kicks, but then end up showing how affective they can be by accident. Your side kick was one of the best moves you showed in the new Kick AI video 😂
Ok I’ve trained in martial arts most of my life and been in a lot of street fights and side kicks are very effective if used properly of course I leap into them to generate a huge amount of force
I understand why you'd give punching an A, hands aren't meant to be used for punching. A valid point because the chances of breaking your hand is very possible. But elbows don't have that problem, you could break something, but you're far less likely to. You know even if you miss, retraction and energy consumption is still low, lower than if you were to throw anything else, other than a headbutt or a jab maybe. Range isn't really a con since that's not what elbows are for (same goes with knees, but I'd say knees are a little bit too situational anyways). Personally I'd give elbows an S, there's just nothing really wrong with them for what they're for, so I can't see why they'd be anything less. I could agree on an A, range could be an issue for most people, but a B just hurts.
The poke is probably one of the most efficient self-defense tools. Low energy low effort high-efficiency low commitment and can chain Into other attacks can easily cause permanent damage and is viable at all ranges. It’s John Jones signature technique and even Bruce Lee advocated for it because it’s that effective.
Palms are S tier, hands down. (get it?😉) The heel of your hand goes right to your wrist which reinforces the blow. You're pretty much striking with solid bone, imagine punching someone in the face with your wrist
Sensei, you say hands aren't made for punching and I agree. Since all my knuckles have fractures lol Palms, Elbows and Knees are my current go to strikes. Also, slapping a man might lead to unfortunate events lol so disrespectful!
I would not like to rank strikes, it just don't make sense somehow. I would say it all works pretty well if you are lucky or good. Sometimes a headbut is the right thing to do, other times it may be a kick or throw. There is just to many factors to talk about, but anyway I like that you gave it a shot and your personal oppinion :)
A big problem with pokes is people who can't land even a punch think they'll somehow manage to be pinpoint accurate when they extend their finger to attack the eyes.
Anybody else jam to the intro song every single time? ✋️ Fun story, my Krav Maga instructor back in the day told us that if someone ever attacked us and we ended the fight with a headbutt and had video evidence of it, we'd get free training for life 😂😂😂😂
In my opinion if you are putting palm strikes higher than slaps its doing it an injustice because a slap and palm strike have a similar motion and if you can powerfully throw a palm strike( enough to end a fight) then i'm fairly certain you could do the same amount of damage with a palm strike/slap mixture. My reasoning for this is that you throw a slap the same way you would throw a hook with your fists while not putting your hand at a complete risk of breaking something. However one could also argue that "in a situation like that why wouldn't you just throw a hook instead?"
Great vid, solid listing, so you want people to get mad about pokes .... ok.... people most of the time when talking about pokes to the eyes think the 3 Stooges (just like you said) style with extended fingers, that way you will obviously brake your fingers, to avoid this you have to do basicly a palm strike with your fingers curled a bit in like you are making a claw, this way you have more chances of hitting the eyes (is not like the eyes are hard so even if you don't get depth or power you will cause lots of damage) is less likely to break your fingers and if you miss you still landed a solid palm strike to the nose .... but is still shit.
Try a poke in the neck, with an open hand, you will break some stuff, and it is really easy to throw, even more than a punch, for self defense is a very efficient first move, and in very close range you could "poke" both eyes too, but that is harder to do and also, if you have your oponent in such close range position it is more eficcient to submitt him in other way. I learn this from a military friend, he is a "Black boina" (guess is the equivalent to the Special Ops Marines of the US).
The only change I'd make to this list is swapping the push and slap. Pushes are brilliant for creating distance, allowing yourself to get in your stance and ready up for the imminent fight, and in a self defence scenario they can be used to stall and allow for the fight to be split up before it begins (as preventing a fight is far more powerful than winning one). The slap on the other hand has no real redeeming qualities other than it stings and it's embarrassing to get hit by, other than that there's no real power behind it and it's not a versatile strike at all. I do agree that no strike is an S tier though, they all have pretty large weaknesses so none are perfect.
About "when you are that close" headbutt argument... I may be wrong, but I don't think that distance for headbutt differ that much for one for elbows (and maybe even knees), at least as far as clinch is concerned. Or rather, if someone clinches "correctly" (read: as I was taught, which may or may not be correct) - including sticking head to oponent to avoid elbows - you need to make distance to throw any of them, so i'm not sure whether it matter that much if you create little more of it or little less.
I would put elbows at S tier if you ask me, they are the best weapon in short range, elbows bones are stronger than knuckles and you can add speed similar to horizontal or vertical punches, the best part it's that when you try an elbow hit you don't necessarily put yourself at risk, actually most of elbow blows end in a position very close to a side/lateral defense, the most risky elbow blow it's the spinning one obviously, but the rest are just medium-close sequence killers, the best weapon in human body in my opinion...
I think that eye pokes are very unpredictable/risky but I think it’s hard to argue their effectiveness and potential for damage. There is a certain element of gamesmanship/tactics that often happen in combat sports when a foul happens, because it generally behooves the person who got fouled to make it obvious to the referee that there was a foul so that they will intervene. From my own experience I think that’s certainly why in many cases groin shots seem more debilitating in sports than in a fight (with the benefit of a cup but with the force from a trained fighter behind it), but I think it’s hard to say the same for many eye pokes. Real bad dudes who train hard and fight for a living are often rendered completely incapacitated for at least a little while in a very visceral response. You’re risking sprained/broken fingers and extending yourself in a strike that is very ineffective if it misses the intended target, but I think eye pokes would at least be C tier on my own tier list. Great video, despite my disagreement.
A poke with index finger in between somebody’s ribs you get 3 inches extra reach and also it will go through them like a knife if you use a boxers jab motion and also you need to condition the finger to stay straight and be as strong as iron
To me, elbow has to be worse than punches because it pretty much just hits the left or right of the head while in the pocket. Maybe you can do some weird uppercut elbow or Captain Falcon elbow thrust into the solar plexus or something, but for the most part it's just left or right of the head. Punches can hit from further away, straight at the face, sometimes straight to the belly, to the sides of the head, ribs, or liver, and also uppercutting the jaw. That's a lot more to defend against than the limited elbow options. I also want to say knees are just as good as punches. They can hit from the front and sides effectively, they can be thrown from a full sprint, and you can also accidentally get a groin strike out of it (please don't say that makes it F tier, lol).
This is very old, but I have to defend the good old poke, at least a specific one. Im talking about the one you do with the thumb resting over the fist. It's similar to a punch but you hit with the tip of the thumb and use it to target spots like the throat, the pit of the stomach or the ribs. I am biased towards punching because I practiced boxing, but that one poke deserves at least C tier.
What would you have ranked higher?
Boston crab. S-tier. Maybe. (not a strike at all) For real though I 100% agree with this list.
Elbows definitely deserves S just like how the kick is the best long-range weapon and it sucks up close the elbows the best close-range weapon and it sucks from afar
Slaps, one of my sensei's is a cop and uses iron palms because of how much criminals are embarrassed by getting knocked out from a slap.
I’d move up A to S and B to A.
In the street fights I’ve been in, I threw punches, knees, headbutts and Bjj. Only damage I took was from being thrown because most people who can’t fight lean on the throw or td.
I’d put punches, elbows and throws in S tier, I’d move kick, knee and palm strikes up to A tier, and I’d move push up to B tier.
Sensei Seth, please remember in future that my “middle leg” and “the middle of my leg” are two very different things 😳
Knee
Sensei Seth pee pee
@@SenseiSeth are you a knight now?
Why not the middle of of your middle leg
@@SenseiSeth you sure ??? My middle leg doesnt hav a knee in the end , it's in the beginning !!! Am I normal ????
"You forgot about channelling chakra into your fingertip in order to over pressurize their body into a deathspasm."
- Poke people, probably.
Poke.
*Elbow gets A Tier*
Me: _Smiles in Muay Thai_
Nobody tell him... shhhhh
@@ronaldyang2295 B sneaky!!
Then it got demoted for it's reach.... Hehe. For real tho Muay Thai will never not be useful. It covers everything it has to about strikes.
But its not that useful for the police for example. Those guys need Judo classes.
@@ElDrHouse2010 That's a great point. I saw a video a while back of this cop just tossing this guy who was about to attack him. It was smooth and quick, so I assume he had a fair amount of Judo training.
@@ElDrHouse2010 Muay Thai also teaches stand grappling and trips, which is just as important in a street fight. The clinch is so good that you transition into anything.
Copyright claim incoming!
Hahaha wouldn’t be my first
I was looking for this reaction 🤣🤣🤣🤣
A good/decent throw is an instant KO in a street fight.
Exactly, it's why I think if BJJ guy's against multiple people have a decent chance, if they hit a blast double or a decent throw, slam or takedown, then engage the second guy on the ground it's the safest bet, or throw, then strike then engage the 3rd on the ground. All of this is assuming u can't escape
@@RykerSpeaks yeah, but good BJJ schools teach takedowns trips and throws, at my school we do, we use techniques and takedowns from judo, wrestling, sambo and the Gracie's
@@societybelike same here. My local BJJ gym has 3 instructors with belts and competition experience in different disciplines on top of their BJJ. They don’t allow hard sparring but they’ll teach you technique and proper form for Judo throws and TKD kicks. Getting hip-tossed in slow-mo is weirdly fun lol
You mean because head hits the ground or something else?
*can be
Eye poking is an important element to a complete martial art. It is such a wild card to have in certain situations
Eye pokes= s tier- Jon Jones
He's got them down!
Eye poke pussy tier
Matt Johnson it’s efficient
Great thoughts. Love the insights. A few more if I may,
Elbow is so close to S. The only draw back I can see is range. Otherwise, you can knock out with an elbow, you can cut with it, you can deploy it half a dozen ways and from different lines of attack (including a spinning). AND, it will not break like a hand.
Throws... Excellent. Can be used to put someone down hard, hard enough to cause Critical Condition Injuries. Though if you hold onto them on the way down so the wind gets knocked out of them rather than a cracked skull, it can be an excellent de-escalating technique.
Palm strikes, arguably better than punches. I think it's a Karate philosophy (you'd know better than I) but Hard against Soft, Soft against Hard.
Knee, though deadly and versatile, you do sacrifice balance while on one leg.
Groin.... no, not when your enemy is firing adrenaline on all cylinders.
If you can land a jab you can elbow. I have a good practice to teach you how to do this. Practice throwing a jab. Then an upwards elbow on the same arm. Now hold your arm out to something to hit and blitz in with your feet as you contract the arm the show the elbow. It will hit. It’s all footwork.
I would give the front kick its own category and an A rank. When trained decently, it can be extremely effective.
You should check out Mikes course on it! Hard2hurt.teachable.com
TaeKwonDo front snap kick = S rank
Best strike is just saying 'omae was mou shinderu' opponent will say nani then explode
Nani?
I see what you did there. Well played.
I honestly thought for 2/3 this video that Seth meant striking someone with your groin
😂😂😂😂😂
Is that a poke, slap or a throw? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
It’s called a hump
Master Ken's Thrust of Freedom or The Three Inch Pinch is so powerful even S tier isn't enough to describe it. They are unrankable
How about ranking striking targets on the body?
Rly good idea
Head- S tier
Liver- A tier
Almost anywhere else- like low C tier prolly
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 Butt is like D tier tbf
@@BJSepuku nah it lowers there kicking damage
@@themostdiabolicalhater5986 😬
Teep and Low kick FTW! (Brought to you by the #bigandinflexible gang)
Haha work with your strengths!
the lick S tier
ole lickitung
All the damage is mental if someone pins me in a sparring match and they lick me I’m tapping TF out lmao
At first I fell for the TKD meme, now, I die of laughter.
😂😂😂
Whats the meme again
@@aphone2511 seth has a bias against taekwondo
@@brachiossquill3637 yeah he LOVES TKD
We use all of these in Traditional Jujutsu. Eye poke hurts like hell but ultimately is is just used as a quick distraction for a take down. The same goes for a groin strike except there is a delay before the pain sets in so you are most likely going to have to use another strike before you can throw them or use a takedown
Great stuff :) However, as an old (and quite boring) Kung Fu guy, I have to say that I disagree re palm strikes. Most folk think of a palm strike as a kind of push into the target, and in this case I agree with you. However, a more effective way to throw them is by pointing the fingers towards the target and then, at the last moment, flicking the palm heal into the target (whilst, obviously, throwing the bodyweight behind it). By doing it in this way, you are suddenly increasing the speed of the palm, beyond that of the rest of the limb, thus massively increasing the power (mass x acceleration, blah, blah, blah). Also, just as a comparison with punches, try this wee experiment. Make a fist and tap yourself on the forehead. What do you feel? Probably a wee bit of localized pain but nothing much happening on the inside of the scull. Now do the same with a palm heel. You'll feel a vibration throughout the whole of your noggin and if this was a full power strike there'd be a serious concussion. Also, re slaps - I had a mate that used to be a bare knuckle prize fighter in Canada during the 1950s. He told me that he won every (EVERY) one of his fights with a big girly slap to the face (which shocked and momentarily stunned the opponent), followed by a reverse palm heel. One last thing, re headbutts! As a Scotsman, suggesting that English folk are the meatheads that favour this technique is extremely insulting! WE are the meatheads that have mastered this crap! ;) OK? ;)
Aight thanks for the essay man
"brain keeper"
I really want this to become actual medical terminology
I thought that was?
Elbow is 100% S tier.
Hmmmm...
You can’t elbow someone if they’re punching you in the face. (Can’t be S tier)
@@BrianNichol If you're in range for an elbow they wouldn't have enough range to wind up and punch. When you wind up a punch even if it's a cross or a jab, when you hit the target before the optimum range, you're striking power is severely reduced. Unless you are a world class fighter, you won't be able to generate sufficient power without enough range to accelerate. Ordinarily you would have the other hand shielding you anyways during an elbow strike. You can do a lot of things to reduce the power of a punch with proper technique, with an elbow you would have to directly counter it, or weave to dodge. Just my perspective. Obviously the elbow is not something you start the fight with, the fists will always be used the most due to the range, just simply put, you aren't punching somebody that is kicking you, the same way you wouldn't want to punch somebody close enough to elbow you.
Agreed
Range
Great I been waited for this video, I just love your videos Sensei
Thanks so much bud!!
palme strikes should definitely be A tier, other then that great list man, nice with the groin at the end.
I think it's important to know in what context you'd use them. Groin strikes, Elbows and headbutts are definitely s tier if we're talking self defense, where you want to strike first and as hard as possible. All 3 are potential immediate fight enders. I don't know why groin strikes have a reputation of not being effective. They are like a liver shot. Sure, you might fight through one, but it will hurt like crazy and potentially disable you completely. I've caught a full blown lowkick to the groin in Muay Thai sparring and even with the cup it finished me. I couldn't have kept fighting if it was for my life.
What Strikes Did I miss?! I am sure there are a few!
Chops! Lol. But srsly, what is a chop worth?
D tier!
Shoulder strikes!
Hammer fist
Poison plum flower strike
8:21 Yes losing your ability to see, sometimes permanently, is equivalent to being tickled....
Groin and palm strikes are awesome but for their main intended use. Use palm instead of punching when the target is let's say the back of the head of someone so your hand won't hurt so much while giving same amount of force. Use groin to hit the eyes of the opponent instead of punching the eyes. they are more situacional and only bad if you use them when it's not the correct situation it's not like they were intended to be efectively used as a default strike like the punching
"taking your brain keeper and hitting someone elses sniffer or taster" is my new favorite description of what a headbutt is.
😂😂😂
We didn't fight to the intentional KO back in the day but my one KO was a jump spinning back kick, or the "Joe Rogan" kick he did in his TKD match. I think a knee can be a good one. Some things are good in G&P and not so good elsewhere. So it depends on the position of the people fighting.
That’s a tough kick!! Nice
Maybe the hardest set of rankings you’ve done, but the one I agree with the most
I think people will be upset with the groin/pokes but they'll live lol thanks bud!!
Master ken is gonna be upset once he sees this video.
hurticane is an SSS tier
Nah, hell just do a 5 points video on how Sensei Seth's "BEST STRIKES in Martial Arts" list is BS.
honorable mention: forearm strike, wrist strike, bicep strike, shoulder strike, nail strike, throat strike, chopping
I asked for this list and you delivered Sensei!! so lets say this is my first comment with some disagreement with you Sensei. Pokes and groin and open palm stuff has saved my life in real fights. I'd rank them a lot higher since once they connect, they cause folks to change their energy/stance to be always wary. The Bas Rutten Bitch Slap is exactly what i wanted to see!! What about Knife hand or the reverse strike with your thumb knuckle and Also hammer fists (learnt in Karate)....one more thing....Tackles or Shooting in is using your whole body to strike...and that's how I've countered strikers.
I'm tempted to ask that slap and push be switched. Slaps are hell if you dont see em coming, but I feel like a push to put someone off balance has the same kinda effect with the bonus of making enough space to beat the crap out of them while they are surprised.
Out of the several fights I've been in, I've won TWO with pokes to pressure points. Usually only takes 1 or 2 strikes to make someone think about their life choices and why they're fighting as their arms fall dead.
Oh I was hoping you'd make a video like this!!
It's so refreshing to here someone that DOESN'T think there is an end all be all attack
I have on more than one occasion successfully used a "poke" as a preemptive strike by way of the nukite to completely disable someone in a real life situation by impacting 1. intercostal area between the ribs. 2. the throat and 3. the solar plexus. True, you could use nakadaka-ken or ippon-ken to do the same but at least in my case I am more capable of initiating the "poke" from close range without "chambering" my strike beforehand, whereas I would instinctively withdraw my fists to prepare a nakada-ken or ippon-ken, therefore alerting the other person that a strike is coming.
I really don't think you miss out on anything with a palm strike, it limits your range by maybe a couple inches but it maintains the power and its safer than a punch due to alignment but yeah you can hook, jab, cross, straight punch, uppercut
But other than that no real disagreements lol and as always a worth while vid to watch
That chav impression was impeccable👌
...was that the headbutt bit?!
@@SenseiSeth Yup😅
Hahaha heck yes, was worried about that one
Cool video, i like pokes.. Is true some times hurts more some time less but if you know how to use it is a great tool.. I use it to set up kicks and distraction.
Great Video. Maybe the next tier list video could be on the different kinds of elbow strikes.
That'd be sick! I'll bring my Muay Thai Coach
A solid slap to the ear can actually rupture your eardrum and cause vertigo, with a risk of permanent hearing loss. I would have rated slaps higher. You're only thinking about a light slap with the fingertips to the cheek, not a full-bodied palm to the ear or even the side of the neck.
Hey Seth Great video 👍👍
Thanks a bunch skycow!
Sensei Seth 👍
Definitely S for me on simple, direct, effective kicks. Standalone or ending a combo if you know how to kick it doesn't matter where you hit that shit is gonna hurt
Ok ok, I think I get it now. You just mostly like to joke around when it comes to TKD etc. Really enjoyed the video and was something I'd suggested on a previous video of yours. Good because it's not covered from a self defence perspective and I'm a long time striker through TKD and boxing myself.
Maybe you'd do a tier list on grappling techniques (if you also grapple) for self defence? Judo throws on concrete, maybe Drop Ippon Seo Nagi if you don't want to kill them. Sacrifice techniques etc.
Yea I pick on tkd a lot loo
I find it interesting that throws and punches scored highest and that I believe Bruce lee said someone with a year or two in boxing and wrestling experience could defeat or at least hold there own against most black belts. That's not an exact quote, but close enough. Also I would have liked to have seen palm strikes higher because I think them being less damaging to the hand being a big bonus
It’s like he and I are the same person 👀😂 kidding
I think any technique depends on certain factors to be effective. Distance, Position, Openings available, etc. The best technique is the one most suitable for the occasion.
Overhand right+ teep combination goat combination 😤😤😤
This is really interesting and funny. Good job. I subscribe
Actually, I agree with your list. I didn't agree with where you put elbow or groin initially but you moved 'em just how I would've by the end. It's a good list.
That last Raymond Daniels fight was brutal. That other dude was in so much pain.
Hurt to watch
I be a Simple man, I see that Sensei Seth Has made a video... I click, like comment and watch. in that order.
this is your first tierlist I've agreed with lol
a couple of questions regarding kicks.
I see you doing a spinning back kick to the heavy bag, at impact your knee is at its pathological limit , any negative angle on the joint can cause injury.
On the round house kick your foot is extended to the pathologic limit of the ankle, any negative angle on the foot/ankle joint can cause injury. The more power you hit with the more risk of injury to your self.
I don't understand the logic of using strikes that can injury your own body in a fight.
that doesn’t work like that
Headbutts truly shine when your opponents hands are occupied or out of the way (in guard, punching or grappling/clinching). Doing headbutts this way will give you free strikes in positions you otherwise would not be able to land, often while your opponent cannot defend your strike. Not being able to defend is mainly why headbutts are banned in the UFC (logical or not).
Headbutts can also disgruntle and daze opponents enough for you to land more significant strikes to finish the fight (much like Conor McGregors shoulder strikes on Donald Cerrone). Look up Dave Leduc and behold a master of headbutts. This technique is seriously underrated in my opinion. Use your head!
In the movie Kickass 2 there’s a bit of dialogue where the leader of the heroes tells them to always palm strike so they don’t break their hands. Later in the movie he goes against his own advice and punches a Russian woman in her face and breaks his hand. It’s what I always think of when hearing about the palm strike argument
Haha I’ll have to Google it 😂
I just love how much shit talk you do against side kicks, but then end up showing how affective they can be by accident. Your side kick was one of the best moves you showed in the new Kick AI video 😂
Side kicks don’t work is a meme
Yo sensei! How would you rank chokeholds and joint locks? Love the vids!
Ok I’ve trained in martial arts most of my life and been in a lot of street fights and side kicks are very effective if used properly of course I leap into them to generate a huge amount of force
Squish it along with their dreams 🤣
You know it! Lol
I understand why you'd give punching an A, hands aren't meant to be used for punching. A valid point because the chances of breaking your hand is very possible. But elbows don't have that problem, you could break something, but you're far less likely to. You know even if you miss, retraction and energy consumption is still low, lower than if you were to throw anything else, other than a headbutt or a jab maybe. Range isn't really a con since that's not what elbows are for (same goes with knees, but I'd say knees are a little bit too situational anyways). Personally I'd give elbows an S, there's just nothing really wrong with them for what they're for, so I can't see why they'd be anything less. I could agree on an A, range could be an issue for most people, but a B just hurts.
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Spinning is surprisingly good lmao especially spinning back fists and backkicks, literally no one sees it coming unless you just do it constantly
Should make a tier list ranking sensei seths tier list videos
Hahaha tier-ception
Sensei Seth loved this video u seem so strong i would love to fight u one day, keep with the good work! One more sub ;)
i laughed my ass off when i saw the categories you were ranking. "spinning" "groin" hahaha
The poke is probably one of the most efficient self-defense tools. Low energy low effort high-efficiency low commitment and can chain Into other attacks can easily cause permanent damage and is viable at all ranges. It’s John Jones signature technique and even Bruce Lee advocated for it because it’s that effective.
Palms are S tier, hands down. (get it?😉) The heel of your hand goes right to your wrist which reinforces the blow. You're pretty much striking with solid bone, imagine punching someone in the face with your wrist
Haha I appreciate the pun
@@SenseiSeth you're too kind👌. But you see my point, right?
"Gotta excludes sidekicks cause sidekicks don't work" clip of you getting sidekicked by Stephen Thompson right after. 🤣
😂😂😂😂
Sensei, you say hands aren't made for punching and I agree. Since all my knuckles have fractures lol Palms, Elbows and Knees are my current go to strikes.
Also, slapping a man might lead to unfortunate events lol so disrespectful!
haha you've got to do what you've gotta do! lol
Yeah lmao I broke my hands fighting so I learned Muay Thai and some bjj. Way less risk of rebreaking
Awesome Video!
Thank you my friend!
I would not like to rank strikes, it just don't make sense somehow. I would say it all works pretty well if you are lucky or good. Sometimes a headbut is the right thing to do, other times it may be a kick or throw. There is just to many factors to talk about, but anyway I like that you gave it a shot and your personal oppinion :)
Personally, I'd have put palm strikes at least as high as punches, but that's just my opinion. I pretty much agree with the rest of your assessment.
What about clothesline / forearms strikes? 🤔
B? Maybe A!
C maybe D personally, very large target to block and dodge and very easy to see coming
Jon Jones be like: poke is S tier
Keep the chart this way....very clear to read. Tq for your efforts.....
Nxt vdo -
Jon jones vs average joe 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
A big problem with pokes is people who can't land even a punch think they'll somehow manage to be pinpoint accurate when they extend their finger to attack the eyes.
Anybody else jam to the intro song every single time? ✋️
Fun story, my Krav Maga instructor back in the day told us that if someone ever attacked us and we ended the fight with a headbutt and had video evidence of it, we'd get free training for life 😂😂😂😂
Mike Tyson body shot. S tier.
Headbutts are more practiced in Scotland than in England. It's known as the 'Glasgow Kiss' for a reason.
I would be interested in seeing a throw/takedown tier list. but that's just me
In my opinion if you are putting palm strikes higher than slaps its doing it an injustice because a slap and palm strike have a similar motion and if you can powerfully throw a palm strike( enough to end a fight) then i'm fairly certain you could do the same amount of damage with a palm strike/slap mixture. My reasoning for this is that you throw a slap the same way you would throw a hook with your fists while not putting your hand at a complete risk of breaking something. However one could also argue that "in a situation like that why wouldn't you just throw a hook instead?"
Great vid, solid listing, so you want people to get mad about pokes .... ok.... people most of the time when talking about pokes to the eyes think the 3 Stooges (just like you said) style with extended fingers, that way you will obviously brake your fingers, to avoid this you have to do basicly a palm strike with your fingers curled a bit in like you are making a claw, this way you have more chances of hitting the eyes (is not like the eyes are hard so even if you don't get depth or power you will cause lots of damage) is less likely to break your fingers and if you miss you still landed a solid palm strike to the nose .... but is still shit.
Tickling actually does work trying to get off the ground sometimes. Eye pokes work, Jon Jones, stipe miocic, Daniel Cormier
Striking with the forearm, hips, calves, and cheeks are definitely S-Tier.
Striking with a m16 is s tier
Elbow is totally S tier man. Can hurt like hell, avoid clinches, protect you from takedown attempts, open guards...
Try a poke in the neck, with an open hand, you will break some stuff, and it is really easy to throw, even more than a punch, for self defense is a very efficient first move, and in very close range you could "poke" both eyes too, but that is harder to do and also, if you have your oponent in such close range position it is more eficcient to submitt him in other way. I learn this from a military friend, he is a "Black boina" (guess is the equivalent to the Special Ops Marines of the US).
The only change I'd make to this list is swapping the push and slap. Pushes are brilliant for creating distance, allowing yourself to get in your stance and ready up for the imminent fight, and in a self defence scenario they can be used to stall and allow for the fight to be split up before it begins (as preventing a fight is far more powerful than winning one). The slap on the other hand has no real redeeming qualities other than it stings and it's embarrassing to get hit by, other than that there's no real power behind it and it's not a versatile strike at all.
I do agree that no strike is an S tier though, they all have pretty large weaknesses so none are perfect.
Thanks for that jake mace clip 🤣🤣 forgot how goofy it looked
Groin bite is the absolute nastiest of all strikes. Everyone will INSTANTLY surrender.
Bro the only way I see you safely getting to someones groin is if youre about to give them head lmao
My Gf does that all the time 😟
Rank throwing styles: Judo, Shuai Chiao, Sambo, Aikido, Hapkido, etc.
"Spinning Headbutt" sounds like a sick fight-ender at break-neck speeds, though!
Fake European Metric = Pound, as in "ground and pound"?
"ground and pound"
This sentence oddly remind me of Amelia Watson
About "when you are that close" headbutt argument... I may be wrong, but I don't think that distance for headbutt differ that much for one for elbows (and maybe even knees), at least as far as clinch is concerned. Or rather, if someone clinches "correctly" (read: as I was taught, which may or may not be correct) - including sticking head to oponent to avoid elbows - you need to make distance to throw any of them, so i'm not sure whether it matter that much if you create little more of it or little less.
I would put elbows at S tier if you ask me, they are the best weapon in short range, elbows bones are stronger than knuckles and you can add speed similar to horizontal or vertical punches, the best part it's that when you try an elbow hit you don't necessarily put yourself at risk, actually most of elbow blows end in a position very close to a side/lateral defense, the most risky elbow blow it's the spinning one obviously, but the rest are just medium-close sequence killers, the best weapon in human body in my opinion...
I think that eye pokes are very unpredictable/risky but I think it’s hard to argue their effectiveness and potential for damage. There is a certain element of gamesmanship/tactics that often happen in combat sports when a foul happens, because it generally behooves the person who got fouled to make it obvious to the referee that there was a foul so that they will intervene.
From my own experience I think that’s certainly why in many cases groin shots seem more debilitating in sports than in a fight (with the benefit of a cup but with the force from a trained fighter behind it), but I think it’s hard to say the same for many eye pokes. Real bad dudes who train hard and fight for a living are often rendered completely incapacitated for at least a little while in a very visceral response. You’re risking sprained/broken fingers and extending yourself in a strike that is very ineffective if it misses the intended target, but I think eye pokes would at least be C tier on my own tier list.
Great video, despite my disagreement.
A poke with index finger in between somebody’s ribs you get 3 inches extra reach and also it will go through them like a knife if you use a boxers jab motion and also you need to condition the finger to stay straight and be as strong as iron
To me, elbow has to be worse than punches because it pretty much just hits the left or right of the head while in the pocket. Maybe you can do some weird uppercut elbow or Captain Falcon elbow thrust into the solar plexus or something, but for the most part it's just left or right of the head. Punches can hit from further away, straight at the face, sometimes straight to the belly, to the sides of the head, ribs, or liver, and also uppercutting the jaw. That's a lot more to defend against than the limited elbow options.
I also want to say knees are just as good as punches. They can hit from the front and sides effectively, they can be thrown from a full sprint, and you can also accidentally get a groin strike out of it (please don't say that makes it F tier, lol).
This is very old, but I have to defend the good old poke, at least a specific one. Im talking about the one you do with the thumb resting over the fist. It's similar to a punch but you hit with the tip of the thumb and use it to target spots like the throat, the pit of the stomach or the ribs.
I am biased towards punching because I practiced boxing, but that one poke deserves at least C tier.